oldhippie @ 92

The strongest card West has in its hand just now is the perception that it is barking mad. This requires periodic demonstration. It is dangerous.

That was the whole logic behind the Nixon-Kissinger Christmas bombings in Vietnam, convince them the US president had gone berserk and drive the N.Vietnamese confused and fearful to the negotiating table. Can’t make this shit up, when I learned it I thought this is the thinking of a 10 year old child.
Biden-Blinken seem to be repeating the Christmas bombings logic with the missile strikes into Russia. Didn’t work at all in Vietnam, and USA never grew up, now we have ten year olds toying with a nuclear pissing match, it’s like a Twilight Zone or Star Trek episode. Ever read Margaret Atwood? The end of the world will be ridiculous.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 15:34 utc | 103

as a reference: (US) MIRV reentry video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7X89a531CY&ab_channel=CR0wmp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZM3y5qpMgY&ab_channel=CR0wmp
similarities in the very bright trace till impact.
OK, you’ll get that with anything that comes in at cosmic speeds.
tnt equivalent is ~~5 times the impactor mass @ 7km/s

Posted by: MAKK | Nov 21 2024 15:44 utc | 105

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 21 2024 14:40 utc | 73 “The west, or Nato only knew of the launch after the strike was caught and released on video.”
You know this how?

Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 21 2024 15:46 utc | 107

Silly Russians.
Wrong coordinates.
Supposed to be 10 Downing St.
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 21 2024 14:53 utc | 80

There is an interesting scene in the “13th warrior”
were the “muscled oaf” is killed in a provoked altercation.
Essentially nukeing Hiroshima, Nagasaki shew similar elements.
( showing the new hammer to the soviets. hold still! )

Posted by: MAKK | Nov 21 2024 15:50 utc | 109

Russia has only one way out of the Ukraine war. All the others? Accelerants. All the way to a nuclear ending worse than hell. Either destroy the Keivan Regime or lose the war in the eyes of the world if not in the Book of Morality itself.
Bombing Poland or Germany would be insane. Only one way to win. Destroy the illegitimate Ukrainian regime and win. There is no other solution–all the others would be reprehensible as long as this solution exists.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Nov 21 2024 15:54 utc | 111

So I counted six “re-entry vehicles” with 5-6 grouped little whatever they were, all coming in at least as fast as the Iranian “hypersonic” strike in Israel back in October. My, what could you do with that.
And that is not one of the big ones.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 21 2024 16:02 utc | 113

I know the Russians and Chinese are a step ahead of ClownWorld but it’s nice to get proof every once in a while. Took me a bit to figure out what the Emmy winning Zakharova phone call reminded me of, the opening few seconds below:
Weekend Update with Chevy Chase – Saturday Night Live

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 16:03 utc | 115

Thanks for keeping the bar open b
I expect the empire military got the message and that is the most important.
We will see what is next.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 21 2024 16:07 utc | 117

Given the way the policies of the Anglo-Saxon states towards Russia have developed over the last twenty years, there can be no doubt that an influential elite in these countries is working towards the destruction of Russia.
It is completely irrelevant who is currently US president. Every few months they now increase the stakes. Thousands of victims of Ukrainians don’t seem to bother them so far, and hundreds of thousands probably won’t either. They will also have the same indifference for the population of neighboring states.
They should perhaps not forget that as escalation increases, the room for maneuver becomes smaller and their influence on the dynamics of development diminishes.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Nov 21 2024 16:09 utc | 119

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 21 2024 16:09 utc | 119
There were 30 blank warheads, all of which hit the area of the Yuzmash plant. Russian media claims the Yuzmash plant was completely destroyed along with underground facilities.
This is a demonstration of RUAF conventional ability to take out Nato missile and air bases in Europe with un-intercepteable and pin-point accuracy. That is why Nato and Pentagon officials are quiet, excluding braindead MSM chihuahuas.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 21 2024 16:14 utc | 121

RF will have informed US/NATO shortly before launching a non-nuclear ICBM.
The strike itself is a ‘measured’ response to the Empire’s latest little escalation and a demonstration of its capability to do so much more.
The target was also well within the compass of stated SMO goals.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 21 2024 16:21 utc | 123

US, Canadian and other embassies in Kiev have been ordered evacuated, for those who choose to believe that the collective waste is not taking this ICBM thing seriously.

Posted by: nwwoods | Nov 21 2024 16:24 utc | 125

Posted by: nwwoods | Nov 21 2024 16:24 utc | 126
They were ordered evacuated in advance, 2 days ago iirc. Some say Russia tipped off that something was coming.

Posted by: Mary | Nov 21 2024 16:32 utc | 127

Couple of regulars seem highly triggered today. As if Internet speculation has a real world effect. Record number of comments in a single thread from a few who seem angry.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 21 2024 16:38 utc | 129

I think there was a backroom warning issued, without stating exactly what would be hit. So Nato must assume anything could be hit. Yet the strike came only a day later after the embassy warnings were removed.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 21 2024 16:24 utc | 125
They wish Russia would strike the embassy with an ICBM. Remember the goal of these poor losers is to instigate WW3 in 60d. One can only imagine the howling propaganda following an embassy strike.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 21 2024 16:39 utc | 131

When this war is over there will be statues to Fico, Vucic, and Orban all over Europe. Weird, right? But, so it will be.

Fico said that he and Vucic plan to go together to the Victory Parade in Moscow on May 9.
“I hope I can say that in May we agreed that we would go to Moscow together because we share the same opinion on how to fight fascism and respect the countries that were present at the liberation of our states at the end of World War II,” he said during a visit to Belgrade, as quoted by the Vechernje Novosti newspaper.
“>https://t.me/ZandVchannel/134722

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 16:41 utc | 133

How and when shell we know if this demonstration of ICBM effectiveness had any impact on the western officials?
Are there any special signs in their speeches that we can expect now?

Posted by: Salmon | Nov 21 2024 16:43 utc | 135

How and when shell we know if this demonstration of ICBM effectiveness had any impact on the western officials?
Are there any special signs in their speeches that we can expect now?
Posted by: Salmon | Nov 21 2024 16:43 utc | 136
.
You won’t hear much except malice.
What was said in the back room and whether they were shitting their calves is not known.
It is possible that the secret services knew that Sylenski’s Nazis were working on a nuclear weapon…
And neither the USA nor Russia would allow Ukraine to have control over or possession of nuclear weapons…
After Ukraine separated from the USSR, America put pressure on Ukraine to give up the nuclear weapons on its territory… NOT the Russians!
But almost ALL nuclear weapons were manufactured in Ukraine at the time, and the machinery for this was 100% NOT scrapped but secured.

Posted by: ossi | Nov 21 2024 16:49 utc | 137

Re steel rods
Take another look at the Southfront video, and count the impact points without fire eruption. And recall, your fire door won’t contain the blast that you cannot see. To summarize: full hit on target.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 21 2024 16:53 utc | 139

Speculation about what kind of weapon was used is for the professionals.
Two things are clear from the footage:
1. Six arrivals x six warheads, in six seconds.
2. The terminal velocity of the arrivals is hypersonic like nothing you have seen before.
The collective West is analyzing each piece of evidence and scratching his head in hysterical mode.
Amazing warning.

Posted by: Toast | Nov 21 2024 16:55 utc | 141

A few days ago, in one of his videos, Martyanov did some basic calculations of the difference in kinetic energy delivered by missiles traveling at Mach 3 versus Mach 13. I don’t recall the exact figures, but the difference was very impressive as a warhead arriving at the speed is overkill–a warhead isn’t needed at all.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 21 2024 17:05 utc | 143

Posted by: Mario | Nov 21 2024 15:26 utc | 99
The OP asked about a decapitation strike not a first strike. Of all the nuclear armed nations Russia has the best chance of pulling off a decapitation strike because they alone have true, air breathing, submarine launched hypersonic missiles in the Tsirkon that could hit both the pentagon and White house before they had time to get a launch order out.
The IDF got their F-35’s locked onto … presumably with a Russian air defence radar … when they thried to attack Iran a couple of weeks back and US missiles are slower than Russian interceptors so the USA has no real means of surprising the Russians.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 21 2024 17:09 utc | 145

Posted by: Salmon | Nov 21 2024 13:41 utc | 48
There is competition for most moronic comment of the thread.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 21 2024 17:12 utc | 147

a close up of strikes
https://x.com/i/status/1859606302906810474

Posted by: ld | Nov 21 2024 17:15 utc | 149

@aristodemos | Nov 20 2024 17:51 utc | 114
Mach 13 is 4.3 times faster than Mach 3. Kinetic energy increases by the square of the velocity, so a Mach 13 impact would be 18.7 times more powerful than a Mach 3 impact of the same mass.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 21 2024 17:18 utc | 151

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 21 2024 16:54 utc | 141
You should not expect to see much secondary effects, if the payload explodes in the bunker. The impact hole is destroyed immediately. Maybe some puff, without fire.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 21 2024 17:21 utc | 153

@ossi | Nov 21 2024 17:22 utc | 155
Putin’s speech is on all sites, RT has it translated. He finally expressed a warning for consequences in any country which allows its weapons to be used against Russia. But civilians will be warned in time to leave because the weapon can’t be stopped by anything anyway.

Posted by: rk | Nov 21 2024 17:29 utc | 155

It’s pretty obvious that the World has never seen before such terminal velocity.
Whatever the weapon, an amazing proof of the technological capabilities of the Russian washing machines.
Bye.

Posted by: Toast | Nov 21 2024 17:33 utc | 157

@ LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 14:56 utc | 84
There is a fine line between:

Russians must’ve used their rare expensive tech to hit “for sure” nothing therefore they must be stupid and weak.

and

Russians are stupid and weak, therefore they must’ve used their rare expensive tech to hit “for sure” nothing.

It is worth being mindful of own biases. There is a lot of either coloring blind speculations with vehement confidence right now.

Posted by: boneless | Nov 21 2024 17:37 utc | 159

Putin just informed the world: (machine translation)
MOSCOW, Nov 21 — RIA Novosti. Vladimir Putin made a statement about the situation in the special operation zone.
“I would like to inform the personnel of the Russian Armed Forces, the citizens of our country, our friends around the world, as well as those who continue to harbor illusions about the possibility of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia, about the events that are taking place today in the area of the SVO, namely after the use of long-range Western-made weapons on our territory,” — He said.
The President stressed that on November 19, the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked facilities in the Bryansk region with six ATACMS missiles and on November 21 with Storm Shadow systems in Kursk. The air defense systems repelled the attack, there were no casualties and no serious damage.
The Head of State noted that it is impossible to use long-range weapons for strikes against Russia without specialists from the countries where they were manufactured. According to him, the conflict in Ukraine has acquired elements of a global character after these attacks, but the use of such weapons will not affect the course of its operations. Putin also said that Russian troops were successfully advancing along the entire line of contact.
The President also said that on Thursday in Dnepropetrovsk it was possible to successfully hit the Yuzhmash enterprise, which produced, among other things, rocket technology. He clarified that the strike was carried out by a ballistic missile in nuclear-free hypersonic equipment.
In addition, Vladimir Putin stressed that the international security system was destroyed by the United States, which made a mistake by destroying the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles in 2019. He noted that Washington is pushing the world towards a global conflict.
Putin added that in the event of an escalation, Russia would respond decisively and in a mirror manner. He warned those who doubt that Moscow is ready for any development of events. According to him, such doubts are in vain. The President noted that Moscow is ready to resolve controversial issues by peaceful means, but is ready for any development of events, there will always be an answer.
Putin also announced the successful test of the latest medium-range missile “Oreshnik”. According to him, modern air defense systems do not intercept Oreshnik missiles, they attack targets at a speed of mach 10, which is 2.5-3 kilometers per second. There are currently no means of countering the latest Russian weapons, Putin said.
The Oreshnik missile system is being tested in combat conditions in response to the aggressive actions of NATO countries against Russia, the head of state added.
Russia will offer civilians in Ukraine and citizens of other friendly states to leave the zones of possible destruction in advance, the president stressed.

Posted by: JB | Nov 21 2024 17:39 utc | 161

Visit the FighterBomber Telegram channel for info on the strike on Dnepropetrovsk…

Posted by: donryu | Nov 21 2024 17:40 utc | 163

What is the maximum rainge of one of those inter-continentail missiles ?
For instance could one re-landscape the whitehouse lawn with one of those babys.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 21 2024 13:27 utc | 38
They can reach low Earth orbit, or at least come very close – therefore they can reach every point on Earth, possibly without the polar regions, depending of course from where it was launched.

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 21 2024 17:42 utc | 165

Putin just released some statements regarding recent events:
Russia considers itself entitled to use weapons against the facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against Russian facilities.
Russia will respond decisively and in kind to escalation.
Russian military used the latest Russian medium-range system “Oreshnik” on November 21.
The target of the Russian strike was a military-industrial facility in Dnepropetrovsk, the target was successfully hit.
Putin: There are no means of counteracting the Oreshnik missiles today. Their speed is 10 Machs
Existing missile defense systems, including American elements in Europe, will not be able to intercept missiles like Oreshnik
Russia prefers peaceful means, but is also ready for any development of events, “there will always be a response” – Putin
https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/15975
“>https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/15978

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 17:42 utc | 167

And here it is:
“Putin also announced the successful test of the latest medium-range missile “Oreshnik”. According to him, modern air defense systems do not intercept Oreshnik missiles, they attack targets at a speed of mach 10, which is 2.5-3 kilometers per second. There are currently no means of countering the latest Russian weapons, Putin said.
The Oreshnik missile system is being tested in combat conditions in response to the aggressive actions of NATO countries against Russia, the head of state added.
Russia will offer civilians in Ukraine and citizens of other friendly states to leave the zones of possible destruction in advance, the president stressed.”

Posted by: nook | Nov 21 2024 17:44 utc | 169

@ JB | Nov 21 2024 17:39 utc | 162 with the Putin statement….thanks
Ukraine is going down before Trump takes office, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 21 2024 17:47 utc | 171

Here we go again, Ruskies have advanced missiles but are running out already. What’s worse than fresh warm bullshit? Re-heated leftover bullshit. People are paid for this, but if you are writting for sheeple you don’t need to try very hard:

Russia used “experimental medium-range” ballistic missile in attack on Ukraine, US official says
——————–
From CNN’s Oren Liebermann and Arlette Saenz
Russia used an “experimental medium-range” ballistic missile in an attack on the Dnipro, according to a US official.
Although the US has not publicly identified the specific type of weapon launched in the attack, the US was aware of the possibility of its use and warned Ukraine and other countries ahead of time, the official said. Russia likely only possesses a “handful of these experimental missiles,” the official said.
In addition, the source pointed out that Ukraine has withstood “countless attacks” from Russia, including from missiles with “significantly larger warheads” than the intermediate range ballistic missile launched at Dnipro. The “larger warheads” may be a reference to 1.5 ton glide bombs, half of which compromises the explosive warhead, that has decimated Ukrainian air defenses for months.
“>https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/15976

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 17:52 utc | 173

Grunzt @ 166
Thanks for your reply.
——————————–
Vladimire Putin has just said….
Any further attacks by the west Russia will imeidiatly retaliate reciprical.
Para phrased.
————–
Some one said up thread, that the blast was hered 20 miles away. Probably right.
But i would say this blast would have been hered in london and the white house.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 21 2024 17:53 utc | 175

There’s a big chance ‘nukes’ are fake. I’ve suspected that for a long time. Hence why glazed eye globalist shills like Starmer call Putin’s threats ‘irresponsibke rhetoric.’ There literally are no nuclear weapons, and the powers know this. It was a scare story all along.
Posted by: T J Foster | Nov 21 2024 17:42 utc | 167
Utter bullshit.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 21 2024 17:58 utc | 177

@ JB | Nov 21 2024 17:39 utc | 162
in this rt article today – putin is acknowledging some casualities…

“The attacks on one of the command centers in Kursk Region resulted in some casualties among the military guarding the facility, Putin said. The command personnel were not affected by the attack and the center continues to coordinate the operations of the Russian forces in the Russian border region, repelling a Ukrainian incursion, he added.”

Posted by: james | Nov 21 2024 18:02 utc | 179

It sounds farfetched, but Putin might not even know that ‘nukes’ are an embedded deep state fraud. Even if he wanted to pommel the big red button, no cigar because they don’t exist. People will think I’m crazy but the more you look into the ‘nuke’ saga the less real it seems. I strongly suspect that actual nuclear weapons do not exist, and never have existed. Of course this lie is up there with the moon landing and vaccines to get us started; but what extent are you willing to believe your governments are lieing to you? There is no upper limit.

Posted by: T J Foster | Nov 21 2024 18:04 utc | 181

I hope the delicious irony of Russia’s hypersonic counterstrike hasn’t eluded the barflies.
Here it is:
The dumbass Yankees, being stupid, lazy bullies, didn’t bother developing hypersonic missiles because they were able to BULLY their LAPDOGS, such as Oz et al, into buying their second-rate military junk at Premium Prices.
Hence no incentive to continually upgrade their outdated junk!
The Pentagoons will be drowning in their own tears…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21 2024 18:14 utc | 183

Strikes like these would knock out carrier groups or even surfaced submarines as well as THAAD missile shields.
Looks like Putin just saved the West a few trillion Dollars. He may have to repeat the message though a few more times to be heard.
Alternatively as history loves to rhyme this might kick off another arms race, this time with the West losing.

Posted by: SOS | Nov 21 2024 18:17 utc | 185

https://x.com/i/status/1859659775132492036

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 21 2024 18:18 utc | 187

Winter is coming…

Up to half a meter of snow has drifted in the Carpathians
On the mountain Pop Ivan in the Carpathians on November 21, up to half a meter of snow fell. Frost reaches 10 degrees.
This is reported by mountain rescuers of the Carpathian region, informs RegioNews .
“It’s cloudy and foggy on Pop Ivan Chernogorsky Mountain. The wind is westerly 4 m / s. The air temperature is -10°C. During the night, 30 cm of fresh snow fell, in some places there were drifts of up to 50 cm, ” the report says.
It is noted that visibility in the highlands is limited.
We will remind, the first snow on the mountain Pop Ivan in the Ivano-Frankivsk region fell on September 30.

https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/prikarpattya/1732187855-u-karpatah-namelo-do-piv-metra-snigu (via translation add-on.)

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 21 2024 18:22 utc | 189

>Strikes like these would knock out carrier groups or even surfaced submarines as well as THAAD missile shields.
Posted by: SOS | Nov 21 2024 18:17 utc | 186
Are you sure they can hit moving targets?

Posted by: PuddingPulver | Nov 21 2024 18:26 utc | 191

Posted by: T J Foster | Nov 21 2024 18:04 utc | 182
(There aren’t any Nukes)?
Sorry, but no cigar.
There’s plenty of evidence that Nukes are real. If Hiroshima & Nagasaki aren’t good enough for you, there’s film of US and Ru atmospheric tests. And if that’s not convincing try googling pics of underground atom bomb tests.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21 2024 18:28 utc | 193

Russia did not send prior notification to the USA or other countries about the use of “Oreshnik,” as there are no such obligations, Peskov stated.
“>https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/130789

But it’s contradicted by this, but maybe he means, from now on.

Russia will offer Ukrainian civilians the opportunity to leave dangerous areas in advance when missiles are used, Putin stated.
“>https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/130782

Putin’s statement on Rumble with English voice over:
https://rumble.com/v5rozhw-vladimir-putin-addresses-the-nation.html

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 21 2024 18:29 utc | 195

I strongly suspect that actual nuclear weapons do not exist, and never have existed. Of course this lie is up there with the moon landing and vaccines to get us started; but what extent are you willing to believe your governments are lieing to you? There is no upper limit.
Posted by: T J Foster | Nov 21 2024 18:04 utc | 182
That is some serious tin foil hat shit you got going there buddy. I don’t blame you for being skeptical but there are just too many burned and irradiated victims kicking around for them to be fake … check out “atomic veterans” online … you can’t fake their experiences.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 21 2024 18:34 utc | 197

Putin Warns of Retaliation Against Countries Providing Weapons To Strike Russia
https://www.rt.com/russia/608001-putin-russia-retaliation-strike/
“Moscow has asserted that it has the right to strike the military facilities that allow the use of their weapons against Russian territory, President Vladimir Putin has said.
The head of state made the remarks during a public address on Thursday, promising a decisive response to any aggression.
‘We will determine the targets during further tests of our newest missile systems based on the threats to the security of the Russian Federation,’ Putin stated.
The president continued: ‘We believe that we have the right to use our weapons against the military facilities of those countries that allowed their weapons to be used against our facilities. DETAILS TO FOLLOW.
[Thread] President Putin: ‘There is no way to counter our missiles.’ (and vid – scroll down)
https://x.com/RT_com/

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 21 2024 18:39 utc | 199