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November 17, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-276
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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It is perplexing how stupid the NATO fanbois are. They insistently cling to the delusion that Russia will respond to a direct attack from NATO (“long range missiles”) by nuking the Ukraine. Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 18 2024 11:28 utc | 301 retroflecks @301: “It seems to me that we can no longer rely on the DoD to be the “adults” on the US/NATO team, now that Trump is preparing marching orders, courts martial, and firings.” Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 18 2024 11:43 utc | 302 retroflecks @301 Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 18 2024 11:47 utc | 303 I think Biden is breaking the (illegal) sanctions on Russia by allowing export of ATACMS missiles to Russia. Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 18 2024 11:47 utc | 304 USD is now more than 100 Roubles. If Russia loses, it will be due to economics, not the battlefield. Why Russia isn’t self-sufficient with all its resources and industrial heritage is beyond me, but it is what it is. Posted by: ivanislav | Nov 18 2024 11:48 utc | 305 There are as many DPKR soldiers engaged in the SMO as there are F16 in the sky of 404. Period. Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 18 2024 12:08 utc | 306 Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 18 2024 2:50 utc | 238 Posted by: snake | Nov 18 2024 12:20 utc | 307
I asked ChatGPT about it an he said “Enough already! Too many liars are blaming their lies on poor ChatGPT!” Posted by: Rutte | Nov 18 2024 12:21 utc | 308 Posted by: Santi | November 18, 2024 11:42 utc | 24 Now that America has allowed long-range missile strikes, Putin will disappear for a week in Valdai, the State Duma will threaten to destroy the entire world, the former Russian president will destroy another “Finland” and will write drunkenly in Telegram with threats to the West. Then, having creaked his brains, Putin will return and everything will be as before. Posted by: Diego Global | Nov 18 2024 12:31 utc | 310 Ed4 @ 305
Yes, they do. CMIIW Macron or Holland handed over the codes to NATO, which is commanded over by the Pentagon, it’s no longer an independent deterrent. De Gaulle is rolling over in his grave. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 12:31 utc | 311 Posted by: ivanislav | Nov 18 2024 11:48 utc | 310 “USD is now more than 100 Roubles” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 18 2024 12:38 utc | 312 Posted by: Rutte | Nov 18 2024 12:21 utc | 314 “I asked ChatGPT about it an he said “Enough already! Too many liars are blaming their lies on poor ChatGPT!” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 18 2024 12:43 utc | 313 Ed4 @ 304
27 million dead in WW2, tens of millions wounded, entire cities leveled. They recovered from it, didn’t really lessen their stride, they built the Soviet Union, from all Central Asia to all Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. Being less ambitious this time around I’m pretty confident they can handle what’s coming. The fatal mistake the west, and the trolls make, over and over. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 12:46 utc | 314 So Biden reportedly authorised the use of long range weapons to strike deep into Russia and suddenly Russia is to lose? And all the trolls and Russia doomers that where quiet suddenly wake up? Posted by: scc | Nov 18 2024 12:55 utc | 315 Old Russian proverb (?) “the dogs bark and the caravan moves on” In this case, it’s chihuahuas… I’m surprised by the amount of yapping by the anti-Russian trolls (chihuahuas) .. Much ado about nothing… this is just a pr move, a nothing burger jmho Posted by: ctiger | Nov 18 2024 13:06 utc | 316 Extended range of the missiles Biden has granted is only most effective when fired from Ukraine eastern borders….ergo stop them getting there IE blowing all road rail transport links…airports for delivery….Odessa docks already targeted and affected…? Posted by: Jo | Nov 18 2024 13:10 utc | 317 Round and round the social media-msm merrygoround goes. If this latest social media post is true our own Jeremy Rhymings-Lang won the bar betting pool. Pretty good haul too. Probably need a few days for noise to signal ratio to improve, but I still think it’s true, it best explains the N.Korean Boogiemen Fiesta everyone world over was invited too.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 13:26 utc | 318 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 12:46 utc | 321 “they built the Soviet Union,” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 18 2024 13:28 utc | 319 Posted by: Krollchem | Nov 18 2024 1:27 utc | 218
despite all the euphoria/excitement, one should stick to the (sparse) facts Posted by: ghiwen | Nov 18 2024 13:43 utc | 320 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 12:46 utc | 321 “they built the Soviet Union,” Posted by: malenkov | Nov 18 2024 14:00 utc | 321 The Russian Federation’s sanction against the USA to no longer supply uranium fuel rods for American nuclear power plants has already decided the war… Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 18 2024 14:08 utc | 322 Alastair Crooke Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2024 14:11 utc | 323 Posted by: ivanislav | Nov 18 2024 11:48 utc | 310 Posted by: Mario | Nov 18 2024 14:11 utc | 324 If the AI bubble bursts
Posted by: too scents | Nov 18 2024 14:19 utc | 325 140 fancy missiles and drones yesterday and the best Russia could do was turn the lights off for two hours, that was according to Dima, so big bad Russia will do what to NATO countries when the LRWs fly…..what has big bad Russia done in the Kursk, latest offensive stalled out, can’t retake parts of Russia back….just exactly what will Russia do to deter the FUKUS long range weapons…..kill more fodder in Ukraine, maybe if they can find the light switch Ukie will have to fight in the dark. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 18 2024 14:20 utc | 326 Biden Wants To ‘Corner Trump’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2024 14:24 utc | 327 despite all the euphoria/excitement, one should stick to the (sparse) facts Posted by: Newbie | Nov 18 2024 14:25 utc | 328 Jacques Baud Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 18 2024 14:37 utc | 329 Regardless of whether it is true or not it has legs and opens up an interesting opportunity for Russia. A potential blatant escalation that Putin threatened would change the conflict, so he could pretty much do anything he wants to to hurt Kiev and the west. The US seems to be giving him a free hit to the testicles, an opportunity, given the timing between Presidents, that he could take up. Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 18 2024 14:38 utc | 330 Russia has proved that the West can’t defeat Russia with conventional land forces. Russia has proved that the West can’t use its airforces against Russia. Russia has proved that the West can’t use short range missiles against Russia. So all the West has left is long range missiles. Therefore the West will use long range missiles against Russia, with conventional explosives in them. Posted by: gT | Nov 18 2024 14:40 utc | 331 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 18 2024 14:20 utc | 333 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 18 2024 14:44 utc | 332 Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 18 2024 14:38 utc | 337 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 18 2024 14:55 utc | 333 So, according to nyt, late on a Sunday afternoon with still no official confirmation,bidong has authorized the use of relatively short range missiles for so called deep strikes, while the similar enthusiastic claims for relatively short range yrope missiles has now been quietly buried. A game changer for sure, huh rah! Posted by: nook | Nov 18 2024 15:17 utc | 334 Alex Soros, son of billionaire George Soros, has welcomed the news that US President Joe Biden has reportedly granted Ukraine permission to use American-made long-range weapons to strike deep into Russian territory. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2024 15:19 utc | 335 Another war mongering Nato puppet speaks out. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 18 2024 15:21 utc | 336
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/113332 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 18 2024 15:25 utc | 337
(Kilo-,Mega-,Giga-)watts are a measure of *power* — or energy per unit time. If you’re speaking of energy consumption, the unit is (Kilo-,Mega-,Giga-)watt-HOURS Posted by: CT | Nov 18 2024 15:28 utc | 338 If you’re speaking of energy consumption, the unit is (Kilo-,Mega-,Giga-)watt-HOURS Posted by: too scents | Nov 18 2024 15:33 utc | 339 Informative commentary from Gilbert:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 18 2024 15:50 utc | 340 I will reiterate. Posted by: Micron | Nov 18 2024 15:59 utc | 341 Posted by: james | Nov 18 2024 3:15 utc | 248
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Jan 29 2024 19:13 utc | 108
Posted by: ghiwen | Nov 18 2024 16:01 utc | 342 Looks like Russian retaliation against Biden’s folly has begun. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 18 2024 16:07 utc | 343 @348 micron Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 18 2024 16:12 utc | 344
https://t.me/yozhandcider/1037
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 18 2024 16:17 utc | 345 Why would Russia need a Koksan gun from NK? Posted by: too scents | Nov 18 2024 16:21 utc | 346
If it wasn’t such a tragic and situation of grave global importance, it would be very funny watching the likes of Mersheimer and Glenn Diesenn squirm about how “realist theory” predicts that states should be doing such and such, but they are doing the opposite, and they can’t understand why. Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 18 2024 16:27 utc | 347 Expect Martial-Law to be declared after the false-flag attacks. Martial-Law intent is a “hail-mary” attempt at anything to stop Trump from being inaugurated. Not really a legal move, but Generals who might otherwise be prosecuted/fired may not care at this point. And if you think that “legality” is a concern, you haven’t been watching the Deep-State vs Trump show for the last 9 years. Posted by: juliania | Nov 18 2024 16:45 utc | 348 according to germanys number one newspaper bild (i am beeing a bit facetious here), the german regime is now sending up “4000 german KI-ller drones against putin”! Posted by: Justpassinby | Nov 18 2024 16:49 utc | 349 Welcome back, time-waster, don’t let the door hit you on the way out for the fourth time. Posted by: boneless | Nov 18 2024 16:51 utc | 350
So many words, and nary a reference to the Macron slash Scholz slash Biden menage a trois. I’m so very disappointed, shadowbanned. I expected more gay sex (on a F16, mayhap) and less histrionic extrapolation to finally reach tedious, predictable conclusions. Still the same sad song. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 18 2024 16:56 utc | 351
Slowly it is dawning upon our dear leaders what mess they have made for themselves. Posted by: Passerby | Nov 18 2024 17:11 utc | 352 Posted by: ANON2022 | Nov 18 2024 16:27 utc | 355 Posted by: burak | Nov 18 2024 17:23 utc | 353 Well done to the analysts in the CIA and the State Department, that is all one can say… Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 18 2024 17:50 utc | 354 The ruskies suffers from the boiling frog syndrome, they are allowing their advarsaries to Push further and further and ultimately, their country is going to be decapitated one or another. Posted by: Mendelay | Nov 18 2024 17:59 utc | 355 Anyone see the I believe factual Coca Cola sponsored container morgue fridges sent to Kiev? Logo on the door? Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 18:02 utc | 356 The ruskies suffers from the boiling frog syndrome, they are allowing their advarsaries to Push further and further and ultimately, their country is going to be decapitated one or another. Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Nov 18 2024 18:07 utc | 357 Posted by: Micron | Nov 18 2024 15:59 utc | 348 Posted by: scc | Nov 18 2024 18:10 utc | 358
https://t.me/polittemnik/14895
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 18 2024 18:22 utc | 359 I will reiterate. Posted by: UWDude | Nov 18 2024 19:23 utc | 360 the Finland-Germany C-Lion1 submarine cable has been cut in the Baltic Sea. Posted by: Passerby | Nov 18 2024 21:35 utc | 361 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 17 2024 15:57 utc | 19 Posted by: jopalolive | Nov 18 2024 22:02 utc | 362 “Boiling Frog thing” Posted by: MAKK | Nov 18 2024 22:05 utc | 363 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 17 2024 15:57 utc | 19 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 19 2024 1:24 utc | 364 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 12:31 utc | 317 “CMIIW Macron or Holland handed over the codes to NATO” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 19 2024 1:41 utc | 365 Posted by: malenkov | Nov 18 2024 14:00 utc | 328 “Unless you mean to argue that the collapse of the USSR was a delayed consequence of losses sustained in WW II, your comment is — at best — irrelevant.” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 19 2024 1:49 utc | 366 But Russian reporters were killed instantly in Kursk yesterday. Posted by: MiniMO | Nov 19 2024 2:39 utc | 367 Re: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 18 2024 9:43 utc | 297 Posted by: Julian | Nov 19 2024 9:13 utc | 368 Whenever ukraine strikes, we get to see big explosions or news of high-ranking officer’s death. Whenever russia strikes, they’re striking power plants or random apartments that they claim housed mercenaries. Posted by: No Medium | Nov 19 2024 12:54 utc | 369 If the YouCrane really does fire an American or other NATO long-range missile at Russia, Russia´s easiest target would be the AWACs and satellites that instruct the missiles. Posted by: John Marks | Nov 19 2024 17:57 utc | 370 I saw the following on Reddit, and I find the hypocrisy between drug use in the trenches by the AFU being so widespread, and that of banning Kratom for the public, to be stunning. Granted though that Russia is somewhat puritanical towards recreational drugs. Though on the gripping hand they are very open-minded regarding potent herbs like rhodiola, and have been pioneers in developing Nootropics like Noopept, and the related racetams. Phenylpiracetam being used aboard their space stations, as needed, for anxiety and stress.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/1gv3uif/today_kratom_was_banned_in_my_country/ Posted by: Babel-17 | Nov 19 2024 21:22 utc | 371 Larry Johnson (Sonar21): Posted by: WMG | Nov 20 2024 4:41 utc | 372 The west knows how badly Russia wants Ukraine in it’s sphere of influence. Posted by: shemademedoit | Nov 20 2024 11:47 utc | 373 |
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