Trump And Ukraine
How will a president-elect Donald Trump handle the war in Ukraine?
I doubt that he will be able to close down the war in 24 hours, as he had promised. I rather think that he will escalate it. As I stated two weeks ago:
I expect the new president to double down on the anti-Russian project in Ukraine ...
A new Wall Street Journal piece on Trump's promise does not give me any reason to believe otherwise.
Trump Promised to End the War in Ukraine. Now He Must Decide How. (archived
Foreign-policy advisers close to the president-elect put forth different versions of a plan to effectively freeze the front line
Like in Trump’s first term, different factions are set to compete to influence the Republican’s foreign policy. More traditionally minded allies such as Mike Pompeo, the former secretary of state now in contention to lead the Pentagon, are likely to push for a settlement that doesn’t appear to give a major win to Moscow. Other advisers, particularly Richard Grenell, a top candidate to lead the State Department or serve as national-security adviser, could give priority to Trump’s desire to end the war as soon as possible, even if it means forcing Kyiv into significant concessions.
But what are ways to do that?
One idea proposed inside Trump’s transition office, detailed by three people close to the president-elect and not previously reported, would involve Kyiv promising not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In exchange, the U.S. would continue to pump Ukraine full of weapons to deter a future Russian attack.Under that plan, the front line would essentially lock in place and both sides would agree to an 800-mile demilitarized zone. Who would police that territory remains unclear, but one adviser said the peacekeeping force wouldn’t involve American troops, nor come from a U.S.-funded international body, such as the United Nations.
“We can do training and other support but the barrel of the gun is going to be European,” a member of Trump’s team said. “We are not sending American men and women to uphold peace in Ukraine. And we are not paying for it. Get the Poles, Germans, British and French to do it.”
The idea is laughable for several reasons. It does not take Russia's position into account. To continue to arm Ukraine while keeping a ceasefire is an obvious delaying tactic - nothing that will solve the conflict. Russia will only agree to something that concludes the war for good. The assumption that Russia would condone European NATO forces on the ground in Ukraine is also delusional.
Other ideas are just a variant of the above:
Earlier this year, Keith Kellogg and Fred Fleitz, who both served in Trump’s first White House, presented Trump with a blueprint that includes withholding weapons from Ukraine until Kyiv agrees to peace talks with Russia. Ukraine could still try to regain lost territory, but would have to do so through diplomatic negotiations.
The only real way to stop the war is for the U.S. to drop all support for Ukraine. The Europeans would bicker about that but, if only for budget reasons, would likely follow through. It would then be up to Ukraine, having lost all support, to make nice with Moscow.
Trump will likely select (neo-conservative) hawks to run his defense and foreign policies. They will take all possible measures, even against Trump's declared will, to keep the war going. For them it is down to the last Ukrainian, then down to the last European - if only to show that the U.S. will never give up.
To cover for this Trump and his acolytes may well offer an immediate ceasefire. But that will not work.
As Dimitry Trenin, the former director of Carnegie Moscow Center, writes in Kommersant (machine translation):
If we are talking about the cessation of hostilities along the existing line of contact, then this approach is unlikely to be taken seriously in Moscow. Such a "stop to the war" will be nothing more than a pause, after which the conflict will flare up with renewed vigor and, probably, with greater intensity. The nature of the future Ukrainian regime, the military and military-economic potential, as well as the military-political status of Ukraine are of paramount importance for Russia. In addition, it is necessary to take into account the new territorial realities.
All those items would require serious concessions by the U.S. which the future Trump administration will be unwilling to give:
It is hard to expect the Trump administration to agree to a substantive dialogue on these issues, much less to take into account Russia's core interests. If he shows readiness, the dialogue will start, but even in this case, an agreement is far from guaranteed.
There is also the major issue of trust:
A separate topic is what can be considered satisfactory guarantees in conditions when both parties do not trust each other at all. Two "Minsk" agreements (2014 and 2015 agreements) were violated, the third attempt — the "Istanbul" initialed in 2022 — was thwarted, so the fourth one is unlikely to happen. The only guarantee that Russia can rely on is a guarantee for itself.
The only guarantee to Russia is a permanent (conventional) superiority over Ukrainian forces. Any new arms for Ukraine would undermine that. But acknowledging Russia's superiority is exactly the loss the U.S. does not want to concede.
The author of Events in Ukraine comes to a similar conclusion:
Personally, this is what I predict happening if Trump gets into office (if the ‘if’ is even necessary at this point). Trump proposes Putin a ‘compromise deal’ in Ukraine. Putin refuses, given that he’s winning on the battlefield - see my military newsletters. Trump is enraged by this loss of face, and encouraged by his Ukraine hawk advisors like Pompeo (who called for a "$500 billion lend-lease for Ukraine” this July), what does he do next? De-escalate? Hard to believe.
Indeed - hard to believe.
The war will go on. Russia will have to, as Gordon Hahn predicts, cross the Dnieper, retake Odessa and threaten Kiev. Zelenski is unlikely to politically survive such a situation. Other forces would come to the fore:
The pivot of decision-making will then shift to Kiev and the question of whether Zelenskiy or any Ukrainian leader is able to start peace talks at all, no less ones that presuppose loss of territory as part of any settlement with Moscow, without prompting a domestic political crisis. The resulting coup poker game could involve a Kiev-based coup led by intelligence and security forces, the HRU and/or SBU, or emerge from the periphery at the front with ultranationalists and neofascists such as the Ukrainian Volunteer Corps (DUK), Azov, and others, well-armed as part of Ukraine‘s armed forces, turning their guns around and marching on Kiev in order to seize power.
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A U.S.-backed coup might pre-empt, precede or facilitate such a turn of events. Washington and Brussels might gamble that easing or allowing the radicals‘ rise to power is he only way to rally what remains of the Ukrainian nation so the effort to hand Moscow a 'strategic defeat‘ can be realized and further NATO expansion can be secured.
But a fascist coup, supported by the U.S. or not, will not be able to change the situation on the ground. Russia would still have the upper hand and win the war.
Only a direct intervention by NATO, could be able to change that trajectory. That however would likely expand the war into a global contest that not even Trump's hawks will want to pursue.
Posted by b on November 7, 2024 at 11:37 UTC | Permalink
next page »Please.....force an election on Ukraine. That could change the dynamics. Otherwise, I don't see Zelensky falling or leaving office, regardless of defeats, freezing, starvation, whatever. And Israel is similar.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2024 12:11 utc | 2
Trump avoids tar babies, and Ukraine is a bigger tar baby than Afganistian, Iraq and Syria combined. He follows the Barney Fife ethos of nipping problems in the bud. He will not pump air into a cement life preserver.
Posted by: steve | Nov 7 2024 12:11 utc | 3
Mike Pompe as Ukraine advisor?
I hope this is kidding.
Why not John Bolton?
Posted by: scc | Nov 7 2024 12:14 utc | 4
Unconditional surrender is only viable outcome given that USA is agreement incapable. Even without a neocon cabinet.
Posted by: necromancer | Nov 7 2024 12:15 utc | 5
The war as such has ended. West has stopped supplying men, Ukraine has stopped finding cannon fodder. All but the killing of the remaining fodder has ended.*
Given that nothing can happen while Biden sleeps for over 2 months, the result will be clear to all by the time Trump can make decisions. In the meantime the US military will dissociated itself from all events.
What Trump could do as the pretend "new guy" is work towards creating a rump Ukraine that could supply the guarantees that Russia requires, but I agree this is unlikely. It goes to the Dieper, and onwards from there to wherever Poland, Romania and Hungary expand to.
If I were a Ukrainian speaker wanting to stay in Kharkov I'd be praying for the day when my oblast becomes under Russian control. There is not going to be any rebuilding of economic funding out of Europe at all, only potentially from a Russia in control.
Btw - has anyone worked out what Trump was doing with those nato demands for 2% contributions? It was a typical combination of putting on a show for his voters AND telling European countries to pre-pare for war in Russia. He was pushing for the war in Ukraine just as much as Blinken.
*Replace Fodder with civilians and you can say something similar about Israel which also embarked on an unwinnable (but losable) war recklessly.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Nov 7 2024 12:16 utc | 6
How will the bully negotiator make Ukraine loss look like win?
Trump is the perfect leader of failing empire.....God speed to him
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2024 12:17 utc | 7
The US was always against the closer cooperation between Western Europe and Russia. The Ukrainian war ended any possible cooperation. As far as the US is concerned the best thing would be that Russia takes the whole of Ukraine and we have a permanent cold war in Europe. The US wants to concentrate on the next divide and conquer in making sure Iran does not get better relationships with its neighbours. After that we have China, etc.. The US foreign policy is just based on 'what is in the US best interest'. And they determine that on economic power, nobody may economically become more powerful than they are.
Posted by: hubert | Nov 7 2024 12:21 utc | 8
The US must create its own money supply without a bank owning it. This is the key to all success.
Posted by: south | Nov 7 2024 12:21 utc | 9
Trump has said previously 2016 that Nato a is obsolete...dare we think he might blame it for Ukr fiasco and might go as far as completely "revising" it or rebuilding it ground up? This might be a great radical opportunity to revitalise with the previously ignored by the west Pres Putins fameous letter-invitation to rebuild a system of an architectural security system particularly in Europe? Macron previously has said Nato is brain dead.. EU has /is thinking of a european defensive force so far in very limited form just a few thousands. EU is still under great stress to provide the 2.5% contribrution,so Trump could use this situation (especially considering current EU economic prospects ie zilch) to also blame them for Nato failures, although several EU countries maintain they can still supply armaments eg F35 and loans/giftsfrom the interest of the seized 300b Russian foreign assets and USA to still disburse previous allocated funds in the remaining months to kepp the illusion that Ukkraine can hang on til next spring .
Can Trump legitimately elected seize the current opportunity to dismantle the Ukr government by saying Z and co presidency is illegitmate? And until a new legitimate one is elected no more funding?
Yup agree Russia is not going to accept an EU force policing a de militarialised zone considering their rabid politicians Borrel der Leyen Scolz and co public statements Russia is to be defeated on the battlefield and Germany supplying armaments etc and UK independantly supporting Ukraine and EU countries still training troops...various armaments manufacturing proposals being enacted upon.
Only a complete volte face by these european governments and EU itself(still sworn for eg the return of Crimea) might "encourage " Pres Putin to reconsider options.
As Ukraine is neither in Nato nor EU and so many think neither should occur...if Trump can declare its government null and void ...it might bring it all to a crux suitable for treatment?
Posted by: Jo | Nov 7 2024 12:29 utc | 10
When Ukraine has finally lost it is going to cost the West many hundreds of billions to unwind their "Winning Trade". Those stakeholders are going to press Trump to extend and pretend.
And reparations will have to be agreed.
Is there even going to be a diplomat in the Trump administration or will they confirm another clown cast in the same mould as Blinken?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 7 2024 12:33 utc | 11
I forget whether Trump said he'd end ZATO's Fake Ukraine War as soon as he was elected, or as soon as he was sworn in as POTUS.
But he can't do much while Kamala is Prez. So he'll be busy appointing an inner circle with as few Neocons as possible. And while he's doing that he'll be sounding out Putin to see whether they can agree on a plan to end the Ukraine Fake War. The U.F.W. can't be put to bed without listening to Putin.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2024 12:35 utc | 12
Although the scenario is different, the post-Carter period comes to mind. Can the Don pull off an arms-for-hostages-scale trade operation? Seems it's ok to cave to the adversary by spinning it as a heroic return of hostages event, with a consolation prize being having a permanent simmering enemy in the news for the long term. Trumpoleone is a dealer. Joe easily thrown under the bus for cover. Sec. of State role will be pretty tricky.
Posted by: Stumpy | Nov 7 2024 12:38 utc | 13
This is what will happen now that the new team will take over soon in the USA.
The current admin will rush to deliver the last money it can put together (apparently 6 billion US$) and give it to ukrop Jewish leadership plus hangers-on. Current admin would calculate that this last tranche plus the previous one will last for at least a year. But ukrop leadership sensing the money spigot is drying will accelerate the stealing so these last tranches will last much less than expected.
The new admin will makes lots of moves and threats and chest beating BUT it will cut the sending of more of our treasure to ukrops. Euros will also refrain from taking up the responsibility of sending our treasure to ukrops especially now that the German govt has collapsed.
Since the only reason why the Jewish comedian is tolerated in the Ukraines is because he is supposed to bring in the money, then he and his entourage will run with bags of cash to where they feel more secure, to live as potentates with lots of private security, essentially ending the accumulation phase and starting the phase of the spending the stolen Western treasure they think they deserved.
Central and western Ukraine will enter a period of chaos, looting, rape, hunger, destitution, and waves of Mickey-Mouse worhsipping refugees running to the EU to worship in the cathedrals of capitalism or to receive hand-outs while scrapping a miserable life.
Russia will conquer and annex a large part and referenda will solidify her control and the rest will have a Russian puppet government.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 7 2024 12:44 utc | 14
This is probably a dream, but this is my ideal scenario:
1) Trump admin says that negotiations need to start but that Zelensky's term has ended.
2) Offer a combined pause in NATO weaponry supplies and fighting (cease fire). Since the US has acted in bad faith, specifies that weapons supplies to Ukraine stop flowing for a week then a cease-fire starts. US should be willing to share satellite data to show that weapons are not being sent. No turning off of aircraft transponders during the entire period. Humanitarian aid would flow unhindered.
3) Ukraine has an election with election monitors selected both by G7/NATO and Russia.
4) new government holds negotiations
This process may provide a Ukrainian seat at the negotiating table that Russia could do business with. It does nothing to make finding a peace easier, but it at least gets all the pieces required for a peace on the playing board. (and by the use of gaming terminology I in no ways am trivializing the issues. The killing needs to stop.)
I hope this finds you well
Posted by: ockham | Nov 7 2024 12:44 utc | 15
He’ll cut the funding off straight away and Russia will just continue to march through the rump of the country as they have already planned.
VVP isn’t going to do a deal with Trump because at best Trump has 4 years and this whole shit show has been going on an awful lot longer than that.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | Nov 7 2024 12:58 utc | 16
Reminder
The United States will deploy conventionally armed ground-launched intermediate-range missiles in Germany on a rotational basis beginning in 2026, the two countries announced July 10 on the sidelines of a NATO summit in Washington.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 7 2024 12:58 utc | 17
I have zero hope that Trump will do anything to end the wars anywhere.
Why?
Early in his first term he made noises about making peace in North Korea and Syria.
He was spanked back into line almost immediately.
Trump has been and always will be a bully. A bully will always give in to a bigger bully that threatens him, and there is no bigger bully in the world than the U.S. Military-Industrial Complex.
Posted by: Jim Phillips | Nov 7 2024 13:00 utc | 18
This speculation is VERY premature, simply because Trump is only president-elect and no one knows what will happen until he is finally inaugurated, if ever.
Those in power still have two full months ahead of them, and they will surely use that time to wreak general havoc and mayhem. They will be planning to hammer in stakes that cannot be easily moved and prevent a quick peace as much as possible, regardless of what Trump may or may not want. What he wants now may be meaningless in two months.
The priority of Team Trump at this moment is simply to stay alive and dodge whatever the Deep State will throw at them.
Posted by: Matthias | Nov 7 2024 13:01 utc | 19
… give priority to Trump’s desire to end the war as soon as possible, even if it means forcing Kyiv into significant concessions.
Definitely by blocking further financial support and crucial long-range missiles … the Ampel-Koalition crashed out as FDP leader Lindner needs to prepare for next election and survival of 5% threshold. His future coalition partner right-wing Merz has urged delivery of Taurus missile system for over a year now. Meeting of minds … reaping future profits “rebuilding” the Ukraine.
EU has met and imposed more sanctions against Russia----attempting to keep Trump in his place ...neutralise...he can say to them well take complete ownership of this situation you have given yourselves???
Posted by: Jo | Nov 7 2024 13:04 utc | 21
Please.....force an election on Ukraine.
I doubt he’ll survive the current year … the Azov nazi’s don’t want to surrender an inch of the Ukrainian territory, Crimea included.
A Diem event hangs in the air … (Ngô Đình Diệm)
His future coalition partner right-wing Merz has urged delivery of Taurus missile system for over a year now.
Posted by: Oui | Nov 7 2024 13:01 utc | 20
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Now it seems that the German electorate will get to weigh in on the subject of missiles. Snap elections in March are very likely.
Linder says he was sacked because of his Taurus advocacy.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 7 2024 13:09 utc | 23
Posted by: too scents | Nov 7 2024 12:58 utc | 17
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Excellent reminder.
It is not only about Ukraine surrendering, it is about solving the root cause, meaning the US, Europe and NATO must agree on a new security framework. That’s what Purin and Lavrov stated.
So, whether Ukraine agree to give up its aspiration for NATO is not enough. The rest is much more complicate.
Posted by: scc | Nov 7 2024 13:12 utc | 24
WHY IS GIVING RUSIIA some TERRITORY a BAD thing? A lot of the people living in the part of Ukraine that is contested prefer to live under Russian rule as most of them are Russian and Ukraine is a totalitarian country forcing men to die as cannon fodder. They speak Russian not Ukranian, they are Orthodox and ar persecuted for that. IF THAT ZELENSKY A-HOLE NEEDS MORE MONEY FOR THE WAR HE CAN SELL HIS LAVISH PROPERTIES HE BOUGHT OFF AMERICAN TAX PAYERS!
Posted by: Fortuna | Nov 7 2024 13:14 utc | 25
I wonder what it must be like to work with people in the deep state who tried to murder you. Any optimism citizens have for Trump will quickly disappear. The insanity continues.
Posted by: SO | Nov 7 2024 13:15 utc | 26
Negotiations cannot work. The positions are too far apart. Time and human lives will be wasted while Russia advances further.
If Trump is smart he pushes Ukraine to surrender unconditionally. That will put Putin in the unattractive position to deal with the extremists and to decide on a new border. In the meantime Trump can invest in improving his army with the lessons from Ukraine.
Negotations and ceacefire are just emptiy words from america.
Trumps american.
America has trashed the euroupian economy by sanctions, sucsessfully driving a wedge between EU and russia to americas benifit, handycaping the EU manufacturing, domestic enegy cost resulting in massive inflation.
Why would trump want to stop that ?
Make america great he says. What he dosent say is make the rest of the world poor.
Aient going to happen, trumps a fool if he trys to fool Vladimir Putin
Trump needs to surender. It's over.
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 7 2024 13:16 utc | 28
There is NOTHING that can conclude a war "for good"!
Total victory is just delaying relapse, as seen in 1945 Soviet total victory upon fascism.
Any freezing on the LOC guarantees a restart of hostilities rather sooner than later.
Russian overtaking the whole of Ukraine save Lvov oblast will guarantee new conflict in months.
Russia needs to take over the whole of Ukraine with Galicia and police it down to the bones. There is still room in Siberia for harsh regime reeducation camps.
You feel not strong enough for ordering that? Empty your seat, leave it to the one who would...
There are still some Chekists around I guess.
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 7 2024 13:19 utc | 29
The mass death is nearing an end, unless Russia moves on Odessa. They won't want to do that because... mass death. They naturally go for a deal if strategic aims are met: Neutrality, peace and blah blah. Only the nazis can give this agreement.
So Trump will let the nazis die until they cut that deal.
Posted by: seer | Nov 7 2024 13:29 utc | 30
Precisely like Vladimir Zhirinovsky predicted, the Green Cokesnorter will be 404's last president.
Banderastan will cease to exist as a "sovereign" state and will soon join Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhiya back into the arms of mother Russia...
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 7 2024 13:32 utc | 31
… successfully driving a wedge between EU and russia to America’s benefit
Has been a long time coming from mid-90s under Bill Clinton … Bush/Cheney declaration of war on the Russian Federation @BucharestSummit in April 2008 … thrashing Putin and Russia by Ivo Daalder and John Kerry @AtlanticCouncil advocating to make Russia a pariah state … VP Biden coordinated the Feb 2014 Maidan massacre and coup d’état … 4 years of MAGA under Trump … Joe to my disappointment had been clearly a warmonger and added fuel the Trump's MAGA policy … in bi-partisan effort blew-up Nord Stream pipelines and severed Europe from Russia indefinitely … helped ruin the Middle East along with Zionist buddy Bibi.
So trump says he will end the ukraine confict in a day.
Whats his carrot and whats his stick ?
I dont see them.
Its just empty retoric, his supporters need to prepare for a lot of disapointments,
Its reality time.
Bump.
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 7 2024 13:38 utc | 33
Simplicius says that Trump's victory is the end of "Straussian cult" or 'Leo Strauss sect".
Does anybody have more material about this?
2. question.
Is Pentagon going to ignore Trump's orders if he decides to reduce support of Ukraine?
Posted by: vargas | Nov 7 2024 13:39 utc | 34
The Brecht quote still missing... B... The Moon of Alabama logo (on left) also missing on the home page...
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Nov 7 2024 13:41 utc | 35
The neocons are back
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
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One of the key architects of Trump’s “Maximum Pressure” on Iranian civilians. Early signal that Trump is going Maximum Neocon:
Kylie Atwood
@kylieatwood
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Brian Hook, a top State Department official during the first Trump admin, is expected to lead the transition team at the State Dept for President-elect Donald Trump, sources tell me + @jmhansler.
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
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For those who don’t recall, Brian Hook was the head of the Iran Action Group in Pompeo’s State Dept, overseeing the maximum pressure policy that culminated with Soleimani’s assassination Trump is already letting the neocons back in the building
Kylie Atwood
@kylieatwood
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Brian Hook, a top State Department official during the first Trump admin, is expected to lead the transition team at the State Dept for President-elect Donald Trump, sources tell me + @jmhansler.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 13:44 utc | 36
Mike Pompe as Ukraine advisor?
I hope this is kidding.
Why not John Bolton?
Posted by: scc | Nov 7 2024 12:14 utc | 4
Looks like the neocons are back. Cry for the Slavs & Palestinians.
So much for ending the wars.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 13:46 utc | 37
"Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."
Another gold star for who can name the quote.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Nov 7 2024 13:46 utc | 38
I think Trump is going to put foreign policy in the hands of the Republican neo-cons and concentrate on domestic policy himself. He seems to have neither the interest or knowledge to trouble himself with geopolitics.
All he really cares about is that the USA appears to be 'winning' during his term with no regard of how those decisions will affect the future of the USA. In fact I believe he's be most satisfied if the USA went in toilet after he left power because it would make him look like a better president ... every night when he falls asleep he dreams of Americans begging him to return to power because he's just the GOAT president.
That being said you have to remember that Ukraine actively campaigned for Trumps defeat in 2020 and Trump won't forget that. Maybe if Zelensky begs him to come to Ukraine then gives him a medal ... a ceremony with swords and an orb ... or Zelensky plays him a little tune on the piano but I suspect Trump will take great joy in fucking over the Ukrainians.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Nov 7 2024 13:47 utc | 39
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/why-american-foreign-policy-fails/
Posted by: AlohaMan | Nov 7 2024 13:50 utc | 41
But he can't do much while Kamala is Prez. So he'll be busy appointing an inner circle with as few Neocons as possible.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2024 12:35 utc | 12
Day 1 & he's appointing neocons.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 13:50 utc | 42
Pompeo's presence shows Trump remains clueless. Think of the devastating claim he could have leveled at the Dems in the debate. Liz Cheney endorsed Kamala cause the Democrats have Dick Cheney's foreign policy team, the neocons. But Trump appears to know nothing of the Neocons. He knows nothing, is instincts are to favor flattery and whatever bullshit that sells. South and others are full on Flavoraid drinkers
Posted by: Scottindallas | Nov 7 2024 13:52 utc | 43
History has taught us that if the us half wins it occupies whatever it can and puts on a very clear border line. Germany , Japan, Korea
If it loses its helicopters and planes leaving in a hurry and screw the locals. Vietnam , Afghanistan …
So Kiev with Russian sector in the east of dniepre and us , uk and Eu sectors in the west and a rump western Ukraine or full abandonment .
My 2 Hryvnia (hardly worth anything)
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 7 2024 13:52 utc | 44
Some people have an interesting interpretation of recent dismissals. Both Dima and other commentators claim that "Biden's men' are being fired, in the EU and Israel. Might be true.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2024 13:59 utc | 46
East of the Dnieper is Russian. Odessa oblast is Russian.
There is no historical Ukraine. Send Lviv back to the Polish.
The imperative first step, IMHO, to engender trust is for the AngloSaxon politicos and media to blitz their own people with the truth of Russophobia, including Operation Unthinkable, and to beg the world for forgiveness.
Won't happen in my lifetime.
Posted by: necromancer | Nov 7 2024 14:00 utc | 47
Mike Pompe as Ukraine advisor?
I hope this is kidding.
Why not John Bolton?
Posted by: scc | Nov 7 2024 12:14 utc | 4
I suppose, Trump will escalate war in Ukraine to unseen levels of destruction and aggression.
Posted by: vargas | Nov 7 2024 14:03 utc | 48
The newly elected administration won't have the lead until January 20th ... a lot of things can happen until then. Attrition wars tends to go faster and faster by the end. Add to that the political situation inside Banderistan that can explode at any moment.
Freezing a conflict with the RUAF controlling a line from Odessa to Sumy won't allow 404 to be a viable country able to restart a war and will make negotiations with anyone irrelevant.
Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 7 2024 14:04 utc | 49
Some people have an interesting interpretation of recent dismissals. Both Dima and other commentators claim that "Biden's men' are being fired, in the EU and Israel. Might be true.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 7 2024 13:59 utc | 46
I think, Dima is wrong, for the first time.
Posted by: vargas | Nov 7 2024 14:04 utc | 50
All an American election decides is which Jewish Zionist faction is in charge of Judeo-Christian Civilization for the next four years.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 7 2024 14:05 utc | 51
As for naming hawks and neocons, maybe it’s a good cop, bad cop thing.
Trump might go for “either a merciful very nice bestest deal with me … or deal with them”
But what does he want? Glory , applause, and most of all no defeats or shitty situations. And no bills please, no costs and expensive commitments.
His biggest problem right now is not Ukraine, it’s Poland . They were convinced that they’d be the us pitbull in Europe (with their lovely Baltic chihuahuas). Can they drop everything and let Germany try to mend things with RF?
RF security concerns include Poland… and the Balkan …
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 7 2024 14:06 utc | 52
Yesterday's gold star goes to those who quoted Tommasi di Lampedusa and his Italian novel, though i am sure any Italians could also be flattered by derivative references indicative of its internationalization and expansion into popular culture through film.
Shame the choice of the diminutive word 'Gattopardo' was never quite accurately translated, as it differentiated in nomenclature to 'Leopardo' and was subtly indicative of the subtext and paradoxical nature of the quote and novel it was drawn from.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Nov 7 2024 14:06 utc | 53
I wonder what it must be like to work with people in the deep state who tried to murder you. Any optimism citizens have for Trump will quickly disappear. The insanity continues.
Posted by: SO | Nov 7 2024 13:15 utc | 26
By the time I was 5, my mother had nearly aborted me, my sister tried to drown me & my father nearly killed me in some kind of ptsd attack.
What it's like is you tiptoe through life & hide a lot until you are freed of those who hate your existence.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 14:07 utc | 54
I doubt neocons will be appointed this time around, as Tulsi, Vance, and RFK Jr are involved in the vetting. WSJ, WaPo, and NYTimes articles on this subject are just deep state attempts to sway the decision to their candidates. They did the same thing prior to Trump choosing his VP with articles running that it would be a neocon such as Nikki Haley.
Posted by: Paul L | Nov 7 2024 14:13 utc | 55
Anyone who truly believes that the Empire will withdraw from Ukraine also believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Immaculate Conception...They won't because they can't. The Empire, because it is so hopelessly inferior conventionally, will play the nuclear card within a year...And under Taj Mahal Donald sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 7 2024 14:15 utc | 56
The most politically savvy way to end the war in Ukraine would be to simply withdraw all American forces and end American weapons shipments, announcing that it's Europe's problem...Another method, proposed by some here, would be to demand a new election for President, since Zelensky is illegitimate at this point, and withdraw all aid until that has been carried out...but I doubt that will happen...
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 7 2024 14:18 utc | 57
Zelenskey has enough evidence to put Hunter and Joe in a jail cell for the rest of their natural lives, as well as 100 other US 'Deep State" actors who so richly deserve just that.
The Donald is not smart enough to jail obvious criminals that are significant Deep State players, that would thin out the ranks of the Old World Order and make an actual change of the old guard and the last thing his opponents want, a true "new" World Order.
In an unrelated side note, regarding the BRICS. There is no way to prevent China or some other participating society from "hording" any new "currency" the BRICS may establish, just like China horded US debt based currency. The new world must end desire for a "currency", and instead use a commodity based "money" that by its very nature can not ever change. A 'basket' of commodities, weighted by natural availability and/or desirablity, exactly like the old fashioned commodity of gold/silver standard or add to them food and/or energy should be adopted.
Posted by: Hot Carl | Nov 7 2024 14:21 utc | 58
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 7 2024 14:15 utc | 56And here we have: a nuclear doom monger!The Empire, because it is so hopelessly inferior conventionally, will play the nuclear card within a year...And under Taj Mahal Donald sooner rather than later.
How exactly do you, Larsbo, expect the "nuclear card" to function? An atomic bomb drops on Moscow and the Kremlin says, "damn, that hurt, we better do what they say?"
The US have made it clear from the outset that they want a conventional war (as large as can be) but no US boots on the ground (they do like EUropean soldiers on Ukrainian soil) and no WW3 (which would be nuclear). We also know that steps have been taken to reduce the nuclear danger: early on in SMO, military-technical contacts between US and Russian officers have been established.
Posted by: Konami | Nov 7 2024 14:23 utc | 59
It is 100% clear that Russia must control and incorporate the Donbas, and must control all Black Sea ports, including Odessa...Also, Ukraine must be disarmed and the Nazis killed or deported... Putin would be in trouble if he even considered a worse deal...so Trump needs to control his ego and recognize reality if he wants to end this charnel house..
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 7 2024 14:24 utc | 60
Posted by: Rubiconned | Nov 7 2024 13:46 utc | 38
In fact, Churchill never said that...
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 7 2024 14:28 utc | 61
I think the obvious first step for the Trump administration will be to declare that Zelensky is not a legitimate president. His term has ended, and the speaker of the Rada is now the chief executive. Remove Zelensky.
Posted by: Marian Ruccius | Nov 7 2024 14:29 utc | 62
The Brecht quote still missing... B... The Moon of Alabama logo (on left) also missing on the home page...
Posted by: Gerry Bell
I don't see that problem. It may be on your side. Clean your cache for moonofalabama.org.
Posted by: Konami | Nov 7 2024 14:23 utc | 59
The US have made it clear from the outset that they want a conventional war (as large as can be) but no US boots on the ground (they do like EUropean soldiers on Ukrainian soil) and no WW3 (which would be nuclear). We also know that steps have been taken to reduce the nuclear danger: early on in SMO, military-technical contacts between US and Russian officers have been established.
Oh really... Unfortunately I didn't hear this fantastic news at all.
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 7 2024 14:33 utc | 64
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/11/07/trumpquake/
Pepe Escobar has weighed in.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 14:37 utc | 65
I'm surprised by anyone believing Trump or expecting anything good. Kabalist, Zionist, layer, probably Jew himself. Makes sense he is getting worse, Neocons aka other Jews and Christian Zionists.
Not only he will not end war, he may likely be selected over idiotic call girl Kamala to lead people into WWIII so that proper Kabalistic NWO can be ushered.
US debt and interests are unserviceable.
Only I believe him that this was the last "election".
Posted by: Saraj | Nov 7 2024 14:40 utc | 66
The people in charge in the Empire will act according to the motto of their great role models:
"Wir können untergehen, aber wir werden eine Welt mitnehmen..."
Posted by: Larsbo | Nov 7 2024 14:40 utc | 67
We also know that steps have been taken to reduce the nuclear danger: early on in SMO, military-technical contacts between US and Russian officers have been established.
Posted by: Konami | Nov 7 2024 14:23 utc | 59
The nuclear threat was never Russia/US.
It is mad dogs in Israel. The threat continues.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 7 2024 14:40 utc | 68
Trump is the most attacked person in establshment history.
You only have to say his name for five keyboard warriors to arrive denouncing him.
Posted by: south | Nov 7 2024 14:46 utc | 69
Rubiconned | Nov 7 2024 13:46 utc | 38
"Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."
We know what Churchill's ideas were on what was the "right thing" for Americans to do: Just different wrong things. And ever since they've been doing those wrong things.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Nov 7 2024 14:47 utc | 70
- Situation will be a bit different and more clear in January
- It seems push against Axis and Iran is a done deal
- Dominance of USD is what Trump cares the most
- German's elections will again decide nothing
- Economic decline of the west and US will be a decisive factor midterm
Posted by: Lubomir | Nov 7 2024 14:49 utc | 71
The Brecht quote still missing... B... The Moon of Alabama logo (on left) also missing on the home page...
Posted by: Gerry Bell
I saw that
I wondered that MOA had been hacked
Posted by: ld | Nov 7 2024 14:50 utc | 72
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Nov 7 2024 12:16 utc | 6
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The 2% is about drumming up business for the American MIC, which wets a lot of beaks in the US economy, including pols like Lindsey Graham.
And of course, makes for good campaign rhetoric. The average American no longer knows what gender they are, let alone that they belong to a fascist empire.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 14:50 utc | 73
More attention needs to be paid to what will happen if Trump doesn't find a way to wind things down. The UA will lose more territory. The UA may well collapse and certainly any kind of defence will depend principally on troops from elsewhere. In other words, no way to avoid a Western climbdown - or escalation to a massive confrontation.
Trump will be able to see this unaided as he remembers Kabul. The issue is how to avoid turning a disaster into a catastrophe. He can blame the disaster on his predecessor.
Posted by: Tim Putnam | Nov 7 2024 14:52 utc | 74
b, thank you for a great topic with many excellent comments already.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 14:53 utc | 75
Yeah - I agree you just have to look how Trump pandered to the Zionists when he became POTUS the first time around - if that is anything to go by, then Trump will allow Zelensky to use long range missiles to attack Russia.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 7 2024 14:55 utc | 76
Despite the pushback from the die hard Trumpers, so far as I can tell the OP is probably correct. I do wonder why our host doesn't think Ukraine isn't already fascist? The fascist coup was in 2014. Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan lost him the support of all factions of the mass media, and it's doubtful Trump is ready to pay a price like that. He refused to pay any price at all in support of his "deal" with free Korea.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 7 2024 14:58 utc | 77
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 7 2024 13:32 utc | 31
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Putin's close advisors don't want all of Ukraine. Socially, they are lazy and corrupt. It would be a non-stop shitshow for Russia to feed and police.
Better to make it Eastern Europe's problem.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 15:00 utc | 78
Pompeo is clearly a traitor to the Constitution...in many ways and instances. He should face FULL military justice.
He would be the WORST possible head of the Department of (d)Fense. If Trump is bought off enough to once AGAIN take on this evil man; I can see heavy flak erupting from Colonel MacGregor and Scott Ritter...along with Johnson and McGovern. Unless they have been "warned", they will put up one helluva fight if Pomposity and his "Christian" Zionism gets the call.
Simple common sense tells us that this AGENCY man should NEVER get empowerment. Subset: If Trump does not follow the Pomposity "suggestions", he will need to engage private security patriots to replace the $$ men protection racket.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:00 utc | 79
It's pretty simple. When Trump makes it back into the building he will be completely reliant on his voting base for power and support. He cannot back down on the big notions. If he does that, the many many ambitious or vengeful Republican game pieces will take the knife in their hands from behind their backs and do what they want because the source of his power will turn theirs. I think the most interesting locus to focus on is Lindsey Graham.
Not the stories that will be told by lying narrators, but the final verdict which may be visible quickly. Ya gotta remember, Trump was never a Republican insider and that institution is four square with the New Democratic NSA Party. This aint 2016. Some things are going to happen unless there are murders.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 7 2024 15:02 utc | 80
Mike Pompe as Ukraine advisor?
I hope this is kidding.
Why not John Bolton?
Posted by: scc | Nov 7 2024 12:14 utc | 4
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Trump's supposed vindictiveness toward those who cross him is almost always kayfabe -- in that sense he's just like virtually every other politician.
I await, with revulsion, Bolton's return.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2024 15:02 utc | 81
I think the direction the Trump administration will take should be obvious, but I am not seeing such a prediction here. It will pursue an "out of the box" Abraham Accords type solution involving the countries in the EU and NATO that have been the most Ukraine "skeptical". Hungary, Serbia, Slovakia, etc. will benefit most by new trade routes (Pipelines) through the Carpathians. One can argue that control of this potential trade route was an efficient cause of the stoking of tensions in what was once Galicia and Lodomeria. Turkey may also have enough to gain to be a part of this. So this should be viewed as a real estate development type plan.
Posted by: frithguild | Nov 7 2024 15:07 utc | 82
Is Trump Ready, Willing and Able to defeat the Deep State?
That's the question on everyone's mind, right? War policy will not change without a thorough cleaning of the Deep State apparatus within government (U.S, UK and EU) and by the neutering of the forces that own the Deep State.
No re-thinking of the U.S.' role in the world will happen without a major defeat for the Deep State, and more specifically its sponsors.
So we watch the tea-leaves. Who gets appointed into key positions? How capable, how resolute, how "exceptionalism endowed" are those people, and what does the Trump team permit them to do, and how fast?
How real is the "if you step out of line, you'll be assassinated" story?
Consider the position of Putin post-USSR collapse. He had the oligarch-owned, traitor-ridden society problem almost as bad as we do here in the U.S.
It took Putin almost 30 years to root them out, and build a society that does what's best for the people. Putin is a phenomenon; he had KGB background, masterful emotional control, brilliant strategy, incredible patience and endurance, and he had the better part of 30 years at the top of the political system to get the job done.
Look who owns the media, the financial system, a good bit of wealth-creating capacity of the U.S. Those people are _not_ going to support major changes in the social order, which is what Trump's supporters fundamentally want (in addition to major changes in the DEI agenda and a return to a Christian-dominated society).
Trump has a herculean task ahead (if, indeed, he truly wants that task), and his immediate staff selections will tell an eloquent story. If we get the likes of Pompeo installed anywhere powerful (State, Defense, etc.), we've just exchanged Bip for Bop, and the drift downward continues until we hit bottom.
There's a lot of commentary about the U.S. public finally shaking off the lethargy, of all this latent energy finally breaking free of the incredible top-down repression it's been subjected to for these last few decades.
OK, great. We claim to be awake, and motivated, and well-directed toward a "better place".
Is the public ready to stick with Trump while he cleans house? Are we ready to accept major inflation while we re-shore industrial production? Ready to demand the re-allocation of investment away from black holes of corruption (like Defense, health care, higher education, FIRE sector) and into new industrial systems? Are we ready for the immense re-direction of the U.S. role in the world from gangster-bully to constructive member of the world team?
That's what's needed.
Is the U.S. public ready to step up, and force Trump to do what's necessary, or will we continue to take the easy way out, and find another "Hope and Change" pony to ride for a few years, as things remain the same?
Gut-check time.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 7 2024 15:08 utc | 83
It's pretty simple. When Trump makes it back into the building he will be completely reliant on his voting base for power and support. He cannot back down on the big notions. If he does that, the many many ambitious or vengeful Republican game pieces will take the knife in their hands from behind their backs and do what they want because the source of his power will turn theirs. I think the most interesting locus to focus on is Lindsey Graham.
Not the stories that will be told by lying narrators, but the final verdict which may be visible quickly. Ya gotta remember, Trump was never a Republican insider and that institution is four square with the New Democratic NSA Party. This aint 2016. Some things are going to happen unless there are murders.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 7 2024 15:02 utc | 80
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If I understand you correctly, your argument is wholly confused. Now that Trump cannot be reelected, the LAST constituency he needs to worry about is his voting base. He can ignore it without consequence, and it's likely he will. Instead, he'll be back to relying on the Rethug Party machinery (against which RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard are, well, blades of grass) and executing its orders, all the while pretending that their ideas were his all along. Ladybugs Lindsey is an exemplary cog in that machinery. It'll be Trump's first term all over again.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2024 15:08 utc | 84
We will know who and what Trump will be based on his first week after inauguration.
What he prioritizes, who is running which agency, which low hanging executive actions he takes.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 15:17 utc | 85
Newbie@1406
German governance is now up for grabs. The amber light element in the threeway freeway government has just dropped out of the coalition, leaving only Olluff $cholZ and his Greenie-Benie loving couple. So now there's a minority government only...with the lunatic "Greens" (in name only) dragging down the "team".
With some 73 days before the Trumpster takes the reins in the Di$trict of Corruption...a huge void may appear within the NATO gangster coalition AND the EU so-called "democratic" system, ruled via the administrative bureaucraps in Brussels on behalf of the ruling Bank$ters headquartered in City of London. If an election is called in Germany in the same month as Trump is officially installed...we just possibly become astounded by a left-right coalition as basically a 180 which would favor German independence.
Would a new governing grouping in Deutschland call for Perfidious Albion and the U$$A to actually sign a peace treaty with their country ONLY 79 years after GrossAdmiral Karl Donitz surrendered the German military on 5-8-45? Such a development would be a world-shaker. A peace treaty would logically also remove U$ occupation forces from Deutschland.
Why not a peaceful solution to the ongoing Cold War for the primary shareholders in the U$ WarDefense Industry?
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:18 utc | 86
Watch Mexico. Watch Latin America as Trump and Empire flounder in Europe and West Asia, desperate for a win. US bullies will work them over south of the border. Escobar has a good interview with Nima on Lula, how he is captured by Biden thugs, how he agreed to turn on Venezuela to stay afloat.
Scheinbaum is impressive, as was AMLO. Look for lots of hardball with her on the immigrant issue. Latin America has some impressive leaders whose people are aware and growing in commitment: Cuba, Honduras, Venezuela, Mexico, maybe Colombia, Bolivia. All are targets. All are aiming to join BRICS but not right now.
Posted by: migueljose | Nov 7 2024 15:18 utc | 87
I don't know if anyone has posted this video, but according to Tulsi Gabbard, Trump will try to honor his pledge to pull out of Ukraine 24 hours after taking office. She claims that Biden will try to make that impossible in his last days in office.
Go to the 1:30 minute mark to hear the relevant comments: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-care-so-little-for-our-democracy-says-tulsi-gabbard/vi-AA1tEiyR
Posted by: jinn | Nov 7 2024 15:19 utc | 88
Sycophants worry about losing face - a great power moves on . I don’t believe Trump will “ lose face “ over Ukraine because Ukraine nothing to the American people . Sorry to say .
Posted by: Cheryl | Nov 7 2024 15:20 utc | 89
Trump is NY J Mafia and specialized in Real Estate and Property Investments. In Ukraine I'll bet he will focus on the Odecca ports and try to make deal to keep them neutral with access, on behalf of some of the Ukie Jew landowners- of course. . Old 10% Joe , thru his money Laundering in Kiev has paid back millions to Wall Street , LockHeed Martin, and the Boyz who sunk millions/billions into the Ukie farmland purchases and ports. With that now belonging to NovoRossiya, it will be hard Sell, but trying to strong arm Russia out of Odecca would be a certain death to Nato anywhere next to the Black Sea. The Black Sea will be a Brics Sea route and the NovoRossiya rail cooridor will head to Europe thru Hungary. Remember Brics is going to be a Globalist PowerHouse.
Posted by: GMC | Nov 7 2024 15:21 utc | 90
Knowing Trump, and I believe that I do, he will blame everything he can on Biden and the Dems for the first year. Politically, that's the easy, expected, and smart move.
Put the entire Ukraine fiasco on the previous admin.
That gives him a lot of options.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 15:22 utc | 91
Malenkov@1502
Bolton brought back into power...after all the stinky shit he has pulled? To a not insignificant proportion of the politically aware, such a move would be totally informative that the Trumpster has betrayed his supporters. Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern, Scott Ritter and Douglas MacGregor would be on him like a Sierra Nevada avalanche.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:22 utc | 92
Watch Mexico. Watch Latin America as Trump and Empire flounder in Europe and West Asia, desperate for a win. US bullies will work them over south of the border. Escobar has a good interview with Nima on Lula, how he is captured by Biden thugs, how he agreed to turn on Venezuela to stay afloat.
Scheinbaum is impressive, as was AMLO. Look for lots of hardball with her on the immigrant issue. Latin America has some impressive leaders whose people are aware and growing in commitment: Cuba, Honduras, Venezuela, Mexico, maybe Colombia, Bolivia. All are targets. All are aiming to join BRICS but not right now.
Posted by: migueljose | Nov 7 2024 15:18 utc | 87
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Lula is a miserable shadow of his former self. No doubt he was "taught a few lessons" while in prison, and as president he now doubt realizes that his own military -- naturally headed by Bolsonaro Boys -- has, at least figuratively, a gun to his head. One may feel sympathy for Lula's plight, but one cannot expect anything positive from him.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2024 15:24 utc | 93
Bolton brought back into power...after all the stinky shit he has pulled? To a not insignificant proportion of the politically aware, such a move would be totally informative that the Trumpster has betrayed his supporters. Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern, Scott Ritter and Douglas MacGregor would be on him like a Sierra Nevada avalanche.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:22 utc | 92
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. . . and the remaining 99.998% of the Rethug hierarchy, to say nothing of the other ca. 335 million Americans?
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 7 2024 15:27 utc | 94
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:22 utc | 92
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Anyone NOT expecting to be betrayed by a politician is a child when it comes to political matters.
We own our expectations and politicians get elected by feeding them. Even if they are very competent, in most cases, it will be impossible for them to satisfy us.
I say this in an American context. Elections are much quieter affairs everywhere else in the world.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 7 2024 15:31 utc | 95
This is one of the best comment threads for a long time.Thanks.
I am taken by this comment. "Trump will be able to see this unaided as he remembers Kabul. The issue is how to avoid turning a disaster into a catastrophe. He can blame the disaster on his predecessor.
Posted by: Tim Putnam | Nov 7 2024 14:52 utc | 74"
Seems to me that IF Trump and his team see this as an irrevocable FUBAR, then they will do their utmost to collapse the situation as early as possible. If on the other hand, the policy ascribed (IMO incorrectly) to Trump that he will threaten Russia by upping the ante, then it will collpase on his watch, further down the line, and after much more blood and treasure has been spent. Russia is not for yielding to threats in my judgement.
So seems to me, if his team think about this properly, they will go for the early disaster. The press will blame him anyway, so might as well have a reasonable excuse. But people don't act rationally, and apparently Mr T has a reputation for not doing so. I think he lacks the killer instinct to be truly effective as POTUS, and has poor judgement when picking a team. B might be right. Mr T might make a dumb offer, get turned down, as a result double down in support for Ukraine - and still lose, and this would be a failure of the ages, equivalent to Vietnam.
Well, we will know soon enough.
Posted by: marcjf | Nov 7 2024 15:32 utc | 96
Tom Pfotzer@1508
Superb analysis. Thanks. For starters, if Trump actually follows through on most of his promises and wants to prove that those assertions were not mere rhetoric; he will have immense support from a majority of the populace...except, perhaps, from the mass of Deep $tate administrative bureaucraps...and the mass media of misinformation, mindfukery and more miserable memes.
He does, though, require his own security force, likely military NCO veterans of the sort which could not be either bribed or blackmailed. Would he actually TRUST the $$ official "protectors"?
With full power over the Federal Communications Commission; a good move for the president elect would be criminal proceedings against one or more of the primary boobtoob noose channels for numerous crimes of deliberate misinformation and massive political bias. He should bring back the "Fairness Doctrine". If mass media is not at least somewhat objective they should be immediately deplatformed. FUCK THEM.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 7 2024 15:35 utc | 97
*** The Black Sea will be a Brics Sea route and the NovoRossiya rail cooridor will head to Europe thru Hungary. Remember Brics is going to be a Globalist PowerHouse.
Posted by: GMC | Nov 7 2024 15:21 utc | 90
We agree on many points. A good illustration may be the robber barons during the time of the building of the transcontinental railroad. At the municipal level (the most local governmental authority that excercises the highest quantity of police power) a real estate developer is. Early always behind political moves. Whoever knows where the railroad will be built buys the land.
Posted by: frithguild | Nov 7 2024 15:46 utc | 98
It is in Russia's interest now, and has been for quite some time [at least 16 months] to make territorial gains a priori to Trump's inauguration.
What is lost during the DNC's reign can be blamed on them, Trump has no skin in the game but after...that's far more complicated.
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 7 2024 15:49 utc | 99
Trump is the most attacked person in establshment history.
You only have to say his name for five keyboard warriors to arrive denouncing him.
Posted by: south | Nov 7 2024 14:46 utc | 69
Yes. A lot of the "pro-Russia" West is infected with the same virus the NPC left has, all while being just about useless in determining policy. Tucker Carlson is a more influential antiwar voice than Democracy Now, and he has CIA links.
Most such people have no idea what motivates President Trump- but then neither do the neocons. VVP is considerably more intelligent, however, and he's going to take advantage of the situation. Negotiations offer a lot of possibilities to divide the enemies of Russia and crush the AFU spiritually.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 7 2024 15:53 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
Yes. The big problem for Trump is that whatever the outcome, almost certainly in favour of the Russian army, he will be blamed. To avoid this there is only one way: declare Ukraine's defeat instantly and try to settle the conflict in accordance with the realities on the ground. He would have to turn upside down the narrative that the Collective West has been spinning these years.
Posted by: Ignacio | Nov 7 2024 12:03 utc | 1