Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 4, 2024
Presidential Election 2024

"Neither is qualified. Both deserve to lose."

Video: Prof. Jeffrey Sachs Q & A at Cambridge Union as published on Oct 30 2024

Starting at 48:06 min (automated transcript, slightly edited):

Sachs:

I will not vote for a candidate that doesn't meet the minimum threshold for being president of the United States and we have two candidates, lead candidates, that don't. And so I decided I'm not voting – period. Because I want a candidate that actually has some possibility of doing something.

Now maybe they will but not based on what they say every day.

It is a profession of love for Israel's murderous reign in the Middle East. Okay, by itself I wouldn't support that. That's enough for me because Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza and it's sickening and it's obvious and we see it every day. And if a candidate can't figure out to say something about then I can't support them. Period.

But then Kamala Harris, who would normally be my candidate because I was a lifelong Democratic Party voter. Although with great disappointment whether they won or lost. Because when they won I was disappointed with what they did. When they lost I was disappointed that my candidate lost. So I've never been happy for a while about us politics.

It's been five miserable presidents as far as I'm concerned from Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, awful all of them. They brought us to the brink of nuclear war. I can't forgive them for that kind of recklessness.

But when it comes to Ukraine Harris says we stand with Ukraine. Just everybody understand what does it mean to stand with Ukraine, like Boris Johnson stands with Ukraine. It means 2,000 Ukrainians killed or wounded severely every single day. That's not standing with Ukraine. That is standing with the destruction of Ukraine. It's exactly the opposite. And so that's a purely Orwellian idea that we're standing with Ukraine by continuing this war.

And that's what she says because she doesn't seem to have any idea other than what she's told to say or she says her ideas. And either way I can't vote for her.

And with Trump – don't even get me started.

So the answer is I don't see either of them based on what they're saying right now doing much.

But I think there's another point that is important in this. I'm not without hope for a quite different reason and that is that our politics is not determined by American presidents. Our politics is determined by the Security State apparatus. And what is happening right now is not in America's security interest and so they could change their mind.

President Putin said something actually very interesting in an interview in 2017, I think in Figaro. By the time he had three presidents as his counterparts, Bush, Obama and Trump, and he said to this French reporter in 2017.

He said: "You know I've dealt with three American presidents. Now they come into office with ideas but then men in dark suits and blue ties come to tell them how the real situation is and you never hear of those ideas again."

And this is from a very tough-minded leader who was himself KGB he understands how the American system works very well. He understands what the CIA means for American foreign policy. He understands that American foreign policy is very deeply rooted.

It's not this one wins then Obama changes everything and then Trump comes in and changes nothing like that. By the way this has been a consistent foreign policy arguably since 19 certainly since 1991 and arguably since 1945.

– end of Jeffrey Sachs quote

Comments

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 17:15 utc | 28
“As for the Republicans…they are just the other side of the coin from the Democrats.”
It does seem that way. What do you think it means that Trump has as many enemies in the Neocons half of the Republic Party as he has in the Democrat Party? Do the Neocons run both parties?

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 4 2024 20:46 utc | 101

@Aristodemos 9
« Cœur de cri » ?
You probably intended to mean « cri du cœur » ?

Posted by: Dany | Nov 4 2024 20:47 utc | 102

Votes cast in any state, whether contested or not, count for third parties reaching the 5% level.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 20:48 utc | 103

And all votes cast for one of the two major parties, raise the number of votes needed to reach the 5% level and thereby make it harder for third parties to reach that level.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 20:52 utc | 104

Kamala who is a Bolchevik…
I would with kindness galore’s st, remind the bar that you might not know what you think you know if kamala is a bolchevik.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 4 2024 20:53 utc | 105

What a choice!
Genocide ice-cream with imitation chocolate syrup, or Genocide ice-cream with one of those horrible glacé cherries on top!

Posted by: TINA | Nov 4 2024 21:00 utc | 106

I don’t know if barflies are following the SNL skit from this past weekend where Harris was on the show…..but Trump not provided same visibility….and not there is this posting from ZH
NBC Airs Trump Message After Harris Saturday Night Live Appearance
Is NBC going to provide the same support for Jill Stein? They are required to!
America is a rogue country operating without morals that needs to be taken down so it can do no more harm to our species.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 21:03 utc | 107

If both are not qualified then the people in America simply have no choice.
Posted by: Faraday | Nov 4 2024 17:09 utc | 24
Well you’re partly right. No choice in terms of voting their way out of WW3. Nonetheless, there are other means of ending the war policy of the ruling class. Not as easy as ticking a box, but much more rewarding.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 4 2024 21:04 utc | 108

paranaense@2046
It is possible that they are factions amongst the higher levels of the Chosens. Appears that Kamala is a blank slate in terms of geopolitical reality; while Trump displays occasional independent outbursts. Neocons have no real agency as they are agents for the City of London faction…no direct pipeline to Sanhedrin.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 21:06 utc | 109

His copium is thinking the security apparatus has usa’s best interests at heart? Going to save him like a fairy godmother?
I agree with not voting and the relevance of the Gaza genocide. He isn’t being that thoughtful about much else.
You guys going on about voting… tptb get more than the physical ballot from you when you do it. In a certain respect, any participation in voting is supporting the system. And there is also psychological trap – I can’t find succinct words but similar to a combination of token effort and manufactured consent.

Posted by: Rae | Nov 4 2024 21:06 utc | 110

The fact that the Deep State felt it necessary to kill JFK and to remove Nixon by other means shows that presidents DO have power, if they choose to exercise it.
So do the conniptions of the US establishment over Trump, ever since 2)16.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 21:07 utc | 111

Dany@2047
Yup. Got that one precisely bass-ackwards.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 21:08 utc | 112

@Posted by: Jane | Nov 4 2024 16:52 utc | 13
BRAVO!

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Nov 4 2024 21:08 utc | 113

@107
Trump got 2 one minute spots day time yesterday one during a football game.
SNL audience already for the DNC selection.
Came out better.

Posted by: paddy | Nov 4 2024 21:09 utc | 114

Here Michael Roberts quotes Larry Fink of Blackrock as saying over time, it doesn’t matter who you vote for.

US election part two: Trump v Harris
There’s just one day to go before the US presidential election vote and in this second part of my posts on the US economy, I shall look at the economic policies of the two main candidates.
In one sense, who wins matters little to big finance and big business. Both candidates are dedicated to the capitalist system and making it work better for the owners of capital. Larry Fink of BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, said he is “tired of hearing this is the biggest election in your lifetime”. The reality, says Fink, “is over time it doesn’t matter”. And it’s true that the underlying endogenous forces of capitalist production, investment and profit are much more powerful than any particular policy adopted and implemented by a government. Nevertheless, pro-capitalist politicians can differ on what is best for capitalism at any one time. And there are some differences between Trump and Harris on what to do over the next four years.
US election part two: Trump v Harris

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 115

As a recovering Bernie Sanders fan, I assumed Stein is just Bernie 3.0.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 116

Crickets

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 117

Fear is being cranked up to 11 given elections tomorrow as shown by these ZH posting titles
European Officials Allege Russia Is Plotting To Bomb US-Bound Passenger & Cargo Planes
Zelensky Calls For ‘Preemptive’ Long-Range Strikes On North Korean Troops
I expect the noise level to stay up but after Tuesday maybe the tune will change a bit

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 21:13 utc | 118

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 116
Exactly, and it’s a role reserved for Jews.

Posted by: qparker | Nov 4 2024 21:15 utc | 119

What Prof. Sachs cannot understand is that HE represents the problem. A few commentators have written about the societal cleavage in Western societies: a ruling caste with university education, often inheritance, home owners etc, while the other caste is an amalgam of the non university, often red necked workers who have seen their livelihoods (in agriculture) destroyed and the values of their world (marriage, etc.) supplanted by wokism, transgenderism and so on. Trump speaks to the lower caste, Biden-Harris to the upper caste. Sachs belongs to the upper caste…it is that simple.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Nov 4 2024 21:16 utc | 120

Thank you very much for this post, b. I haven’t yet read comments, but the video is really an important one, the kind of discussion that ought to have been happening in the United States but hasn’t been. I watched it on Sunday and highly recommend it for anyone reading here that they spend time doing so.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 4 2024 21:17 utc | 121

America is a rogue country operating without morals that needs to be taken down so it can do no more harm to our species.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 21:03 utc | 107
###########
The Empire, as with all empires throughout history, will eventually succumb to its weight. I think the Chinese understand this well.
Then we will have the pleasure of some new Empire that may start good (as most fresh starts do) and then become the inevitable descent back into psychopathy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2024 21:17 utc | 122

The really frightening thing is that whoever wins will proclaim themselves as “Leader of the Free World™”…
No wonder BRICS membership is getting popular…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 4 2024 21:19 utc | 123

Llysias@2018
Possible enough that the Duponts regarded Williams as being not intractable, so they didn’t jump in. Now as for the current pro$titician, elevated to his highest possible of a blend of kowtowing with limited competence (back in the day as its all down the river now) the Duponts enjoy unchallenged ownership.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 21:20 utc | 124

You guys going on about voting… tptb get more than the physical ballot from you when you do it. In a certain respect, any participation in voting is supporting the system. And there is also psychological trap – I can’t find succinct words but similar to a combination of token effort and manufactured consent.
Posted by: Rae | Nov 4 2024 21:06 utc | 110
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Well said. I understand it though. People want to do “something” but don’t see many other options. And anyone who suggests an organized (peaceful) alternative to voting often ends up shot or in jail.
That is why I prefer autocracies. One hopes they have a good government and don’t feel compelled to waste any time or energy on the electoral melodrama. The absence of a false sense of responsibility is freeing.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2024 21:20 utc | 125

@ Lysias | Nov 4 2024 21:07 utc | 111
very true… thanks..
@ Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 116
looks that way to me as well and i see @ qparker | Nov 4 2024 21:15 utc | 119 adds another dimension to it as well.. what a coincidence.. it is all about money and control, but perhaps more importantly – appearances…
@ Stierlitz | Nov 4 2024 21:16 utc | 120
i think the talk he gave at cambridge is quite good, so while there is some truth to what you say, people do change and come to realize the error of their ways – sometimes… i have to believe that.. i don’t want to hold someone to the past only.. what they do at present matters just as much, or more so..

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2024 21:22 utc | 126

@ the other b. (#3)
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and Delhiliterally (#97)
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… i most strenuously disagree.
It is by VOTING that you give sanction to the whole charade. By your participation you are in effect turning on the television to lap up the phoney spectacle of the Macho Man Randy Savage taking on Hulk Hogan.
Just like that scripted WWE nonsense would go belly up if people stopped watching, the real powers behind the american empire would REALLY take notice if enough people decided NOT to vote.
I like to imagine the look on the faces of all them bimbos and himbos reading the if the voter participation was only 6 or 7 percent. Imagine the dismay and creeping fear as they start to realize the jig is up.
I remember positing this same notion here recently (i think it was here….) and not even getting a bite. Huh!

Posted by: paddy_too | Nov 4 2024 21:23 utc | 127

If you vote for kamala or trump you may find your selve infront of a war crimes court as an acomplace to Genicide and war crimes.
Dont do it, its a trap. Step back from the booth.
Not least for your own concence in the futuer when both conflicts explode as they surly will. And add to that the on comeing civel war if not nucular war.
Keep a clean concence
Dont do it.
Be able to live with you self.
Daddy what did you do in the begining of world 3 ? Oh i voted for the fascist that started it.
Really ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 21:24 utc | 128

The German East Coast media went to great lengths to ensure that 80% of Germans would vote for Harris – and now they are not allowed to vote at all. We are a very strange country.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Nov 4 2024 21:25 utc | 129

The Chinese Empire went on, after changes in dynasties. The Roman Empire did not.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 21:25 utc | 130

When somebody has already done a job once, in a reasonably competent manner, how can you call him “unqualified” for the job? A total non sequitur. Less war, less illegal immigration, more freedom. There is no choice, unless you consider it tantamount to choosing between suicide or not-suicide.

Posted by: onetwothree | Nov 4 2024 21:26 utc | 131

@ the other b. (#3)
“Not voting is indistinguishable from “anything goes” approval.”
and Delhiliterally (#97)
“NOT voting merely plays into the existing order’s hands”
… i most strenuously disagree.
It is by VOTING that you give sanction to the whole charade. By your participation you are in effect turning on the television to lap up the phoney spectacle of the Macho Man Randy Savage taking on Hulk Hogan.
Just like that scripted WWE nonsense would go belly up if people stopped watching, the real powers behind the american empire would REALLY take notice if enough people decided NOT to vote.
I like to imagine the look on the faces of all them bimbos and himbos reading the if the voter participation was only 6 or 7 percent. Imagine the dismay and creeping fear as they start to realize the jig is up.
I remember positing this same notion here recently (i think it was here….) and not even getting a bite. Huh!
Posted by: paddy_too | Nov 4 2024 21:23 utc | 127

Posted by: paddy_too | Nov 4 2024 21:27 utc | 132

Trump did it for four years with a backstabbing deep and administrative state. More qualified than most. Also, with a history of ending and not startng wars, has good agenda (abolish Fed and IRS? Perchance to dream) with Elon to slash fat (see 80% whack on Twitter), RFKJr v. Big Pharma Ag and Food and Shanahan and Tulsi to some good end I would think.
Oth, you have the far left neocon allied empty pantsuit puppet Kamala and that wacky fabulist Waltz.
Mr.Sachs disappoints with his less than fair assessment of the two

Posted by: Oddknot | Nov 4 2024 21:31 utc | 133

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 21:24 utc | 128
Fine, how do you explain all the obvious Security State sedition, lawfair and assassination around Trump? A tiny bit of a pattern don’t you think?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 21:33 utc | 134

To put Harris on the same level as Trump means the end of any intellect or thinking, and the start of an era of lying.
Harris is an imbecile f++king idiot, if Biden was a puppet, then she is just a piece of wood. (I dunno if she “slept” her way to the top, but I have no clue, how someone like her is able to become prosecutor in USA). The Democrats are the most evil and dangerous coalition of human beings that ever existed on earth. They use all kind of known possible lies, violence, aggression, wars, harm, abuse, crimes and every imaginable disgusting methods to serve their own goal of staying in power. This mafia of all mafias would start WW3, if it was necessary not to lose. They represent establishment, system, control, force, globalism, inequality, and lies, lies, lies and lies.
Trump survived 2 (two, TWO!) attempted assassinations. He was bashed by the whole global media for a century. The US establishment did EVERYTHING to ruin his own presidency. They tried to put him in jail and filed hundreds of lawsuits against him. They manipulated the 2020 elections. They tried everything to ruin this man’s life. And he is still fighting.
Now, if you compare these two and say they are equal, you must be like some chimpanzee, or have the brain of a blowfish, or you must be an American intellectual.
(sry for bad English, I’m in Europe)

Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 4 2024 21:35 utc | 135

Typo ….world war 3

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 21:35 utc | 136

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 4 2024 20:53 utc | 105
I would imagine that a lot of Bolsheviks would be somewhat disappointed in Kamala. And also with Pete Butigieg. Both of their names get brought up when one talks about Marxist influence in the higher levels of US government. Is it the “long march through the institutions” about which Gramsci wrote? Maybe we could ask Kamala Harris or Pete Buttigieg what their fathers would have thought, especially Mayor Pete. His Maltese professor father edited and translated Gramsci’s Prison Notebooks. I wonder if he knew Mifsud? A Maltese mystery.
Kamala Harris’ father
Pete Buttigieg’s father
Pete Buttigieg’s father
(Sorry, two snopes and wikipedia. my bad)
One’s parents greatly influence one’s thinking. Both of these individuals went into politics, so I would presume that politics must have been discussed while they were growing up.
I don’t think I know anything about Kamala Harris’ perspective on Bolshevism. It would be interesting to find out, though! I do think she is a rather shallow, vapid, self serving, race grifter. I don’t think she did a very good job as attorney general of California. I think the democrats could have come up with a better option, but I don’t quite care because I would more than likely not vote for Obama 3.0 in whatever incarnation that may come.
So yeah, “you might not know what you think you know if kamala is a bolchevik”
I think that’s one of her slogans for this election, right? ; )

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 4 2024 21:36 utc | 137

Kamala Harris will be the first president in history with experience in all three branches of government—judicial, legislative, and executive.
But Trump was a game show host.
Posted by: hightrekker | Nov 4 2024 20:21 utc | 92
And all the b**** can do is spew out word salads.
So much for your experience bull fritters.

Posted by: Archetypex | Nov 4 2024 21:40 utc | 138

Addendum:
Today everything is relativized, everything is made lukewarm, everything is wishy-washy,
because no one can think anymore, all the brains are mushy and washed, and no one can say what’s good and bad.
But there is ALWAYS ONE GOOD SIDE AND ONE BAD SIDE, one is cruel the other is decent.
The problem is, you are always deceived, and you are mostly wrong.
It’s almost like the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 4 2024 21:43 utc | 139

Turk @ 152
The assination attempts were a fake false flag attack, street theater and extremily good for trumps votes. Dont be so nieve.
As for the rest….. pigs trying to get their snout in the trough.
It is what it is, politics.
Nothing for us to worry our silly little heads about. Sark.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 21:47 utc | 140

cortomaltese | Nov 4 2024 21:35 utc | 135
How old are you? That rant sounds like something a child would say. Kind of racist in a way that you can paint a very large group of people with the worst possible characteristics. Point out carefully how any one action you can think of is done only with democrats. You know very well but will choose to either not hear or acknowledge that the same crap happens in every group or people. And some people are very good at projecting their own actions onto the other side, in other words the pot calling the kettle black.
Pull back a little bit, it is not that easy. there is more to learn and then I think you will try to figure out why you believe those things.

Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 4 2024 21:49 utc | 141

Has anyone thought of writing the name of the very best qualified and level-headed candidate for US president on their ballot sheet, Vladimir Putin?
The truthful irony is that ALL HIS national policies are EXACTLY what the US needs to pull itself out of its self-dug hole and to contribute to world peace — industrial self reliance; international trading trust; low foreign debt; respect for international law; lessening class gap; high war threshold. Funny that.
If one were to list every one of his political aspirations for his homeland and the innovations he has implemented in his 20 years (anonymously), I reckon it would garner massive popular support in many western countries because that is what most citizens in most countries envisage for a happy life. Which proves to me the whole Russophobic thing is purely idealogical theatre. I reckon many Americans would vote for Putin if he were shrouded behind a curtain like The Blind Voice Auditions giving a stump speech!

Posted by: Not-a-troll | Nov 4 2024 21:49 utc | 142

As a recovering Bernie Sanders fan, I assumed Stein is just Bernie 3.0.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 21:11 utc | 116
Because of their petty bourgeois social base and outlook, I am leery about the politics of the Greens anywhere.
That said, unlike Sanders who has always been an apologist for Zionism and apartheid, Jill Stein as an individual has been a consistent and principled opponent of US militarism and its Israeli client. For this reason alone, I would say it is completely unfair to lump her together with Bernie Sanders, who has always shown himself to be nothing more than a racist and national chauvinist dirtbag.
Posted by: Lengai | November 04, 2024 at 21:50

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 4 2024 21:56 utc | 143

dan of steele | Nov 4 2024 21:49 utc | 141
You are exactly the kind of people I am talking about in my Addendum #139, a relativizer with said brain qualities.
All you can do is ad hominem accusations (“how old are you?”).
Maybe read that first, lol.

Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 4 2024 21:56 utc | 144

The apparatchiks in the Soviet Union who wanted reform first supported Andropov, later Gorbachev. They did try to reform the system, but they failed. Without Chernobyl, maybe they could have succeeded. But Chernobyl happened precisely because of the flaws in this system. Without Chernobyl, who knows what would have happened?
But I suspect the USSR would still have failed. Just as the US is now failing.
I am currently reading an interesting book about the Soviet Dissidents, “To the Success of Our Impossible Cause”, by Benjamin Nathans.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 21:59 utc | 145

There was talk of, if orange man wins, he’ll bring John Bolton back.
I thought I’d say: thank you bar, barkeep. It’s been nice knowin’ya!
I’m out of practice, but, I’m trying to reach my ankles. My bee-hind needs kissing goodbye.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2024 22:01 utc | 146

Maybe the entity will ‘vote’ ?
“The Israeli army is considering launching a preemptive strike against Iran before a major attack from Iran. The Israeli army has significantly increased its readiness in preparation for a strong response from Iran.
Israeli intelligence expects a major Iranian attack by tomorrow evening, including Tuesday. Serious discussions are now underway within the army to launch a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent the attack” Suhaib Al-Massalma

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 4 2024 22:02 utc | 147

Since Putin, as a noncitizen, cannot become president, any votes for him would not be counted.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 22:02 utc | 148

@BroncoBilly #85

However, Mich McConnell is retiring in Jan, and if Trump wins, Vance needs to be replaced. So Ohio Senate seat is very important, but likely whoever loses will turn around and have the organization for the special election. (not certain if appointment of special election)

Anyone who thinks Moreno is going to lose to a Democrat, as Vance’s anointed successor, is smoking crack.
As for McConnell: KY is a red as it comes. There is not going to be a Democrat taking that Senate seat.
The actual Senate seats up for election, which are in play, are: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio. Ohio not voting for Moreno is a massive sucker trap for Democrats. Barnes has said that unless Trump loses the election – the Republicans will take 2 of the 4 Great Lakes Senate races. That’s where the 55 to 57 number is coming from. Kari Lake is quite behind, but she was quite behind in 2020 and barely lost then. This time around: if Trump sweeps, Kari Lake is more than likely to win.

But looks like AZ, NV, NC, and GA are falling to Trump, meaning he has enough electoral votes to not have to take MI, WI, and PA. But if he takes PA also, that provides enough excess electoral votes barring any challenges.

Sun Belt is going to be a Trump sweep. I’ve repeatedly noted that Baris has confirmation that Harris has pulled out of NC and deployed that money to Virginia (!).
And again: no candidate since 1988 has won only 1 or 2 of the Michigan/Pennsylvania/Wisconsin trio. Kalshi had Trump up in PA but behind in MI and WI – but Trump is far, far ahead of where he was both in 2020 and 2016. So what is more likely – that Harris magically performs well in just Michigan and Wisconsin but badly in every other swing state, or that Trump sweeps all 3 as this election’s winner?
I know which way I have bet – literally.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:04 utc | 149

One of Biden’s agendas was the Green New Deal. He restricted fracking, closed off thousands of square miles of federal lands to oil exploration and leasing, tried his best to kill the coal industry, and threatened to put a moratorium on gas stoves and heating systems. We are now spending a trillion dollars a year on green energy initiatives and subsidies, and our system is strained and collapsing as a result. If Trump does win one of his first actions will be to unchain domestic energy production.
Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 4 2024 18:52 utc | 192
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Biden is less of a green environmentalist than you pretend he is. A lot of nonsense was said during Biden’s 2020 and 2024 election campaigns because a large sector of the DP is pro-environmental, but Biden has never really been an environmentalist. He loves the oil and gas business, and the oil and gas business loves him.
Biden was playing a game that racists used to play when civil rights were the issue of the day in American politics. For example, a national politician from a Southern state would announce that he supported a policy to end segregation in schools when he (she) really doesn’t. However, neither do many of his friends in his party in the South, but most of the electorate in the Northern states do: What to do?
The national candidate explains to his Southern racist friends in his (her) party that he needs their support during the campaign to win the Northern states to get elected. Still, after he gets elected, he (she) will allow his like-minded racist friends from the racist Southern states to block his proposed “segregation bill” on the floor, and then the National candidate will say: Oh well, I tried, don’t blame me, blame them.
Biden played that game with the environmentalist in the DP. He campaigned quite successfully in 2020 as a pro-environmentalist who would draw a line against the polluters in the Oil and Gas industries. But Biden had a couple of tricks up his sleeves: Sen. Kyrsten Sinema from Arizona and West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin. These two, and a few others, ensured that the oil and gas industries were protected from the environmentalists, the same way white schools in the South were protected from anti-racist segregationists for many years. The polluters, conversely, were assured that the two (and more) Senators would block the worst of the legislation from the pro-environmentalist Senators or dilute it to nothingness, which they did.
Really, Paranaense, your comment that “Our system is strained and collapsing as a result “of Biden’s policies is just a tad overboard.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 4 2024 22:05 utc | 150

@waynorinorway #70
Stein is not Annalena Baerbock or Habeck, but any and every Green party going forward is going to be viewed extremely suspiciously by me until the day I die.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:06 utc | 151

I hope Trump wins because he is bombastic and says crazy thing that get conversations started in the vain hope Americans will come to their senses via logical conversations, which will never happen.
I hope Harris wins because she will be better at weakening the bully of the world, and will not be able to stop the wars. This is not an attempt at reverse psychology, I actually think Trump would be “better” for the “defense” industry and military.
All in all I am conflicted. I know where I live will never get better before it hots rock bottom. While I want it to get better, hitting rock bottom will surely make my life difficult as well.
Do I want another four year delay, or do I want the band aid ripped off? I see absolutely zero chance of delay leading to turn around, and four year delay just means four more years of mass murder worldwide.
Emotionally, I want Trump to win. I just detest corporate speak and lawyer presented speeches, and woke ideology that much. Yet logically, I know he is a zionist, and an unrepentant one. Long ago, at a young black leaders of America meeting he had Hotep Jesus, a powerful supporter of his, uninvited, because Hotep is not down with zion. He then spent about five minutes of his fifteen minute speech to a bunch of black young adults, talking about the importance of defending Israel, to the cringe sound of facile and confused applause.
The Guiado thing was a complete embarrassment, and even if he did not directly kill Soulemani as some claim, he did try and make Guiado president of venezuela, and always lies about Maduro being some kind of horrible regime.
All the other policies, like abortion, economy, tariffs, I dont care about one bit.
In the end, I have no idea what the next four years will be like, nor will anyone be able to assert how a hypothetical administration of the loser would have done anything different.
The only hope I see for the world is 1) Russia should be about done with Ukraine by 2028 and 2) maybe Israel will be dust by then, but unlike Russia, who wins in Palestine is questionable.
so,
Que sera sera. I refuse to vote.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 4 2024 22:08 utc | 152

I’m voting for Jill Stein of the Green Party. It’s not a throw away vote. If the GP gets 4% of the vote and elections remain tight between the R’s and D’s then they will look to see how to get these votes.
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BTW I won’t be surprised if Harris loses Michigan because of her refusal to help Palestinians. Bill Clinton campaigned for her in Michigan and managed to piss everyone off by lecturing them on why it’s okay for Israel to kill as many Palestinians as they want.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Nov 4 2024 22:09 utc | 153

Prof. Sachs is a “democrat” saying he can’t swallow Harris (a bit like many with h.r.clinton)
No 3rd candidate is an option right now.
Either refuse the certainty of ww3 with harris or go the other way.
Simple?
As for someone mentioning that what is written here doesn’t count, it depends on who reads it.
Non serviam

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 4 2024 22:11 utc | 154

Men In Black… It’s quite a thing when everything you can hope for are Men In Black.

Posted by: js | Nov 4 2024 22:16 utc | 155

@Ed #150
Strained, absolutely. Collapsing? Time will tell.
The Southwest Power Pool is the one of the 6 US subgrids. It extends from the Canadian border of North Dakota down to North Texas and encompasses 6 full states and parts of 12 more.
The SPP has had 15% of its time intervals with negative electricity prices – this is entirely due to wind farm installations all along this corridor though heavily in North Texas and the parts just north of that.
Negative prices are an enormous problem, particularly when there are guaranteed payments for electricity to wind farm owner/operators.
Nor is this just the SPP. The UK surpassed 6 terawatt-hours of just wind curtailment (curtailment is what happens when there is too much generation vs demand). This cost is over 300 million british pounds just in 2024. We are not even done yet meaning the UK could very possibly see 7 terawatt-hours of curtailment in 2024, and it is a done deal that the costs will exceed to previous record 310 million GBP in 2023.
There are many other examples: every single place that has significant wind/solar either has massive curtailment or has a system completely skewed to wind/solar PV production.
Germany? over 3 billion euros in 2022.
Wind and solar PV are fine at very low double digit percentages; the notion they can provide primary power for an entire grid, 24/7/365 is bat shit crazy.
All the money pushing for that is nothing more or less than a scam.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:17 utc | 156

Annalena Baerbock or Habeck
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:06 utc | 151

The wheels are falling off the Ampelkoalition. They’ll be lucky to last out the year.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 22:17 utc | 157

BTW, stand with ukraine is short for Barrier troops, blocking units, or anti-retreat forces
I wonder when ukranians understand that

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 4 2024 22:18 utc | 158

@Sakineh Bagoom #146
Zero credibility. Trump called Bolton bat shit crazy on Joe Rogan.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:19 utc | 159

So a[n] attorney general is not a judge?
Posted by: hightrekker | Nov 4 2024 20:35 utc | 96
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No.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 4 2024 22:20 utc | 160

Trump called Bolton bat shit crazy on Joe Rogan.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 22:19 utc | 159

Gravitas riding the short bus.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 22:24 utc | 161

Lysuas
Some of the votes are counted, others are just generated from algorithm calculations from previous elections.
None of us would bet against a betting shop computer, so why would anyone vote against a politicians’ computer?
Warmer than sitting at home I suppose.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2024 22:24 utc | 162

also @c1ue
You didn’t bet on who would win the election. You bet on it not being rigged again.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 4 2024 22:28 utc | 163

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 21:47 utc | 140
So Trump agreed to just stand there while a couple of bullets blew apart the brains of 2 people standing beside him and many more bullets whizzed by him at 78 years old? I would think that any narcissists self preservation instincts would be screaming hell no!

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 22:35 utc | 164

a comment after reading post 51
the only good news is that regardless whether it’s Kameltoe or Agent Orange that wins, not much will change in the world.

Posted by: Ray | Nov 4 2024 22:41 utc | 165

Turk @ 152
Thanks you just proved my point,
No bullit came anywhere near him he new it was about to go down. He new he would be safe.
No blood on his white coller, position of camra and short cop in front so as not to obscure the filming. Dramatic fist in the air.
Coregraphed like in the moves, you dont beleave they are real do you ?
Its Hollywood.
He /they arent honest people, am i right ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 22:44 utc | 166

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 22:35 utc | 164
And the guy who actually got shot and died in Pennsylvania. I guess they only recruited crisis actors who studied under the Stanislavski’s system!

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 4 2024 22:44 utc | 167

So it will be a disaster if things stay the same – eventually leading to more massive genocide, and possibly WW3 – things HAVE TO CHANGE othwise it will soon be all over.

Posted by: Ray | Nov 4 2024 22:46 utc | 168

Sachs is against war when the West wages it. But he’s perfectly fine when others wage it. Hypocrite.

Posted by: Davey G | Nov 4 2024 22:48 utc | 169

If trump was any threat to the elite he would’nt be running for president you can be sure of that.
Will we never learn.
Its ground hog day.
Its ground hog day.
Its ground hog day.
Everytime.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 22:52 utc | 170

You should take a look a who is supporting Trump. Having JD as vice president, Kennedy and Elon working with him, we will have a great 4 years.

Posted by: Liz | Nov 4 2024 22:53 utc | 171

No bullet came near him? What hit his ear?

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 22:55 utc | 172

I don’t believe ‘not voting’ is any kind of good advice.
All that does is make it easier to stuff ballots – knowing that it won’t distort the ‘turnout’.
That’s a lot harder to get away with if most people used their votes in person.
It doesn’t mean they have to choose one of the Uniparties of any flavour. As we know they are all backed by the same ‘Interests’.
Unhappy voters should on purpose ‘spoil’ their votes in a systematic way – writing across the whole ballot NON OF THE ABOVE.
That would mean that the vote is counted as a spoilt vote (it is in the U.K. )not as a indeterminate vote. Ideally i’d like to see the non-of-the- above as an official choice in any ballot! That would remove all ambiguity.
When the number of such votes approaches 5% or more it becomes obvious to everyone that the system is broke and allows the grassroots to see they are not alone.
That becomes then the basis of local candidates to emerge – wholly unsullied by professional political placement.
I have listened to Sachs a lot since the SMO started – he seems to run the so called ‘left field’ as other professors run the ‘right’ and even others the liberalish/green ‘centre’. Ultimately none of them got where they are by being outsiders in the establishment. Did they?
The Overton Window has been shifting towards the preservation of the rich’s statusquo via a stronger security state for decades with the mockingbird media monopoly propaganda echo chamber. They claims to be democracy because they have such ‘diverse’ opinions.
They don’t.
Nowhere is that clearer than with the Green German Warmongering fascists and the supposed famous Nordic liberals and a few years of kippers delivering the BrexShit in the U.K. where we now have establishment ’populists’ such as Farage, ‘zio-Tommy’ and other such figures across Europe.
That is where the whole Imperial 5+1 eyes and the collective Waste are now. They have nowhere else to go with the rising multipolar, except to some overt uniparty coalition collective model that will ape these raising their Peoples out of poverty across the impoverished global south majority of humanity. Smashing the status quo as it rumbles towards us.
The Robber Rich are fucked and they know it. They are flailing around fishing for some Neo-Belief that will allow them to shapeshift again. We know that includes the TransHuman and other modern Malthusian eschatology fear mongering and saviour complex nonsense.
They are getting frantic.
More popcorn!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 4 2024 22:56 utc | 173

Two notes on Trump. All speculation on my part, but somewhat worthwhile nonetheless.
One point has been made repeatedly by William Gruff here. The murder of General Soleimani may well have been the decision of someone in the borg apparatus, like this “dark prince” guy from the CIA who was in charge of Iran affairs around the time if memory serves. Trump claimed the deed only later for political/PR reasons according to this scenario. FWIW, it also reminds of a hot mic moment with him and Pompeo on stage talking about COVID, where Trump says something like ‘you should have told us!’ while the ex-CIA boss speaks on the outbreak.
The other point is about the Syrian oil Trump wanted to ‘steal’. This seems so over the top that I’ve a hard time believing it was meant for real. Rather, Trump might have hung out his own apparatus here for a bit after his order to withdraw met blatant insubordination. Again this reeks of CIA, perhaps they made a point on force protection to impress their will on Army deployment in the country.

Posted by: persiflo | Nov 4 2024 23:02 utc | 174

Lysias @ 172
Nothing hit his ear, they put a bit of lipstick or artifical theatrical blood on his ear when out of site on the ground.
Good for votes.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 23:03 utc | 175

The US Green Party is backed by the same interests as the major parties? What evidence is there for such a claim?

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 23:05 utc | 176

Posted by: james | Nov 4 2024 19:03 utc | 69
Thank you, james, you make good points here. I will make the point which I found relevant in Sachs’s discussion, that he himself had followed the ‘least evil’ path in the past, but that he saw that doing so doesn’t solve anything.
I too voted third party after the Clinton second term, (which by the way was when it became very apparent that he had sold the country down the river in that term), and now third parties championed by Ralph Nader got shunted out of the process. Until then, you could hear dissenting arguments in the debates and the process of educating the voting public had been upheld. For the first time, the third party candidate was not admitted into the debate between candidates. That had never happened up to that point.
Sachs was not critiquing the personal integrity of who the current candidates are – he was saying that, after Clinton, elections had become a charade with no accountability for what the candidates were saying in their speeches and no way for the ordinary citizen to decide between candidates on the basis of reasoned debate between them as to what they intended to accomplish if elected. The system is now broken, and proof of that lies in the records of the past Presidents since, and including, Clinton.
Sachs says very clearly, “I want a candidate who has some possibility of doing something.”
The majority of people who do not vote, (and I am now among them) do not do this because they do not care. They do this because they care too much! And they see that there is now no ‘least evil’ between the two main candidates, and that third parties may as well not exist, because there are now so many ways to game the system: (a) to prevent them from having a seat in the debates (b)not to be listed as candidates) and (c) that nobody can be sure even of votes being registered and counted accurately- the Supreme Court, remember? It’s not just in all the other ways we are failing as a nation — there’s this one as well! It can be fixed; it ought to be fixed; it cryingly won’t be fixed if we keep doing what we have been doing!
So, please don’t badmouth Jeffrey Sachs and all who have come to his conclusions over years of electoral crappiness (excuse my french). There are those who still hope for a better playing field next time around, (okay, good luck) but it hasn’t happened for the quarter century we have been complaining about it; it has only gotten worse. And this time even from inside the system, someone stood up and said “No more. We’ve tried to reach that Sisyphean rock of ‘legitimacy’ being dangled by ‘the men in Brooks Brothers suits’, and it only got harder.” And I think Mr. Sachs is saying, my non vote IS a vote. It says: Not In My Name! So thank you, Mr. Sachs, mine as well.
I would like this to be the last of these terrible pseudo-electoral cycles. It may not be, but at least that is the message of my nonvote this time around. It bleeding well is.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 4 2024 23:06 utc | 177

Has the hospital that treated Trump given any indication that the ear shot was a hoax? If it was a hoax, wouldn’t a lot of doctors and nurses be aware of that fact? What accounts for their silence?.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 23:09 utc | 178

Something consistent about US politics.
They would always prefer to have a mafia showman than a qualified attorney. It makes things so much easier to explain why their foreign policy is rubbish.
Oh you see fate destined us to have a lying git as Potus. Sorry it worked out so horrible for you RoW out there.
Just one of those things, I guess.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2024 23:17 utc | 179

Posted by: juliania | Nov 4 2024 23:06 utc | 177
Juliania, why should we care what a Jew has to say, especially about Trump?
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 23:03 utc | 175
You think that some cabal of conservatives orchestrated the attempt on Trump life and, to make it more realistic, had an audience member killed as well all for… a boost in ratings? Are you going to tell us the Earth is flat next?

Posted by: ABOBA | Nov 4 2024 23:17 utc | 180

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 4 2024 22:11 utc | 154
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Like Professor Sacks, I refuse to vote for either of the two-party candidates and for many of the same reasons. Americans, or should I say Westerners, are trapped in the two-party cult that is getting increasingly more disgusting and openly anti-democratic every day. However, I do not assume Harris is more likely to cause WW3 and nuclear obliteration as you do; Trump is quite capable of doing that himself.
Newbie, you underestimate Harris and overestimate Trump. Like so many, you are caught in the trap of two-partyism and can see no further than liberal bourgeois democracy. I know because, even as a Socialist, I was convinced that one must vote for the lesser evil until the glorious revolution becomes a reality—a revolution that begins in the minds of the toiling classes as class consciousness and transforms into civic action. Right now, it appears that the capitalists may have won, at least for now.
But there is one consultation: The ruling classes throughout history will always change, while class consciousness will always remain because the class struggle against the exploitation by a wealthy and powerful few against the majority of humanity will always exist until it doesn’t. That, not capitalism, will be the end of history, the end of exploitation.
I shall step off my soap box now.
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Posted by: Ed | Nov 4 2024 23:20 utc | 181

It is by VOTING that you give sanction to the whole charade.
Posted by: paddy_too | Nov 4 2024 21:23 utc | 127
Que sera sera. I refuse to vote.
Posted by: UWDude | Nov 4 2024 22:08 utc | 152

Cool. You think anyone will care or even notice your lack of voting? Do as you wish, but don’t come crying to us when the new President does something you dislike.

Posted by: ABOBA | Nov 4 2024 23:21 utc | 182

I refuse to vote
Posted by: Ed | Nov 4 2024 23:20 utc | 181

It’s your right to throw your vote away. Go ahead and don’t participate; someone will get elected President regardless. And what did you not voting accomplish? Nothing!

Posted by: ABOBA | Nov 4 2024 23:23 utc | 183

J6 and the Trucker convoy to Ottawa show us what happens when North Americans exercise their “right” of assembly. Btw, all of those “rights” are supposedly protected by the government from the government. LOL
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2024 20:44 utc | 100
Brave people. Not a bunch of gutless cowards talking and typing while someone else does the heavy work.
The “Truckers” convoy were the face of a far larger protest of private sector working people that told intellectually stunted Trudeau to back off “his Covid shot or lose your job edict”. And the banks slapped Trudeau and his Ukey Deputy upside the head when stealing people’s money started a bank run. And a Canadian Judge determined the War Measures Act II was wrong. Now Trudeau as popular as hives.
J6? The most Dangerous Unarmed “Insurrection” ever concocted.
I would vote for Trump if I could, notwithstanding his Israel mistake, just for the pardons of all the 100% innocents labeled J6.

Posted by: kupkee | Nov 4 2024 23:29 utc | 184

It makes things so much easier to explain why their foreign policy is rubbish.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 4 2024 23:17 utc | 179

Yes. Foreign policy could be theater for the plebs so long as the USA remained the hegemon.
The new thing is that in a multipolar world American leadership is going to be laughed off the stage.
America’s febrile election is a nothingburger.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 23:30 utc | 185

Lysias @ 172
Nothing hit his ear, they put a bit of lipstick or artifical theatrical blood on his ear when out of site on the ground.
Good for votes.
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 23:03 utc | 175
Mark, I lost the link, but shortly after the shooting, a techie used the video in a computerized graphics program that showed very clearly, in slow motion, that the bullet trajectory aimed the bullet at his forehead. In the last instant, by pure chance, he turned his head a couple inches to the left & it instead grazed his right ear.
Had he not turned his head left, it was visually very clear the bullet would have hit him above his right eye.
It was a real assassination attempt, period, & people died as a result. So please just stop it.

Posted by: Mary | Nov 4 2024 23:31 utc | 186

Trump speaks to the lower caste, Biden-Harris to the upper caste. Sachs belongs to the upper caste…it is that simple.
Posted by: Stierlitz | Nov 4 2024 21:16 utc | 120
As in the billionaire and Trump donor Miriam Adelson who has allegedly given $100m to the Trump campaign.
The concern of the squillionare donor class, like Adelson and Musk, for the interests of what you either mistakenly or misleadingly refer to as ‘lower caste’ is touching indeed.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 4 2024 23:41 utc | 187

@UWDude #163
The operating principle I agree with is: “margin of fraud”
The concept of the margin of fraud is that there is a limit to how much fraud can be accomplished without it being transparently obvious to even the dumbest normie.
For example: 2020. With the massive mail-in vote, the margin for fraud was enormous.
Note I am not saying 2020 was fraudulently delivered. It is possible, and I’m leaning closer to probable given the 50% dropoff in mail-in votes this time vs 2020 – but regardless – it is a well documented fact that mail-in votes have traditionally heavily favored Democrats, because Democrats traditionally have more “low prop” – which is to say, low propensity voters. The working class, the blue collar, the union are all examples of this category. So are young people.
Within this mail-in ballot bias framework, we have – in addition – possible forms of fraud. These include failed signature matches, missing/incorrect data, late ballots, dead people, out of state people, etc etc. If a state has a Democrat governor, and a Democrat election official with his/her Democrat staff – I think you can see how a close race might be tipped one way by said groups. Throw in the COVID “spacing” rules preventing the normal election monitors from being closer than 6 feet to these ballot counters, well, things can happen.
But you can’t do these shenanigans without having the raw ballot numbers to provide grist for the mill.
Looking at 2024: I’ve already noted that mail-in ballots are down 50% across the nation. Republicans are registering to vote, more than Democrats in most locations – very counter to normal trends. Independents are heavily leaning not-Biden – either Trump or not voting at all. And traditional Democrat demographics: young college educated women, young black men, young Hispanics, union, working class – every survey, Democrat leaning as well as the Republican leaning and the “independents” are all saying that voting propensity is waaaaaaay down. As in these groups are just not going to come out to vote to cap off their failure to vote already.
For example: In Pennsylvania, the urban turnout, the female turnout – each are down vs 2020 by 310K and 170K respectively to date.
Biden won Pennsylvania by 80,555 votes.
Even disregarding the rural vote turnout thus far being up over 100K – how can anything think Harris has a prayer in Pennsylvania?
Of course this could be wrong. In theory, a tidal wave of the above groups rushes the long lines of Republicans at the polls tomorrow – election day.
But it ain’t likely.
This is what I mean by all the signs pointing to a Trump blowout. Trump historically has beaten RCP/mainstream averages by 3 to 5 percentage points above mainstream RCP averages. Trying to fraud past a Trump +3, Trump +4, Trump +5 is impossible with the above methods – it would require truly 3rd world banana republic shit.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 23:47 utc | 188

The election will certainly be frauded. That is a given. The question is will it be enough to defeat Trump? Note that a fair portion of the fraud is already baked into the polls. The race has to appear close enough before the vote counting fraud flips it for Harris, otherwise the flip will be too obvious.
Expect it: around 10:00PM Eastern tomorrow night, the count will freeze in strategically important states. At around 1:00AM the counts will resume, but almost all of the subsequent votes will go to Harris. Guaranteed.
Oh, sure, there will be almost-plausible explanations for why all of the subsequent votes go to Harris (“Delayed collection of ballots from this Black community!” and the like), but that will all be bullshit.
But the neolibcon Establishment needs to keep the fraud limited. More than around 10% fraud rate and the fraud cannot so easily be hand-waved away, and the population will explode. That’s how AMLO won in Mexico.
Tomorrow night will be hugely entertaining, no matter what the Establishment does.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 4 2024 23:49 utc | 189

This election is not just about americans selfish interests, greedy over endulgence, your also a part of the world population.
Tread lightly.
In a matter of hours the canvassing stops.
But the consequenses of this election will affect the whole world.
The whole world is watching you.
Vote for an end to war and exploitation.
Placards not booths.
Good night.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 23:53 utc | 190

A swing state, with a strong Mafia presence, that has blocked Republican election integrity initiatives with a Democratic Governor that is an outspoken supporter of Harris, will be dammed if he is going to give the Presidency to Trump.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 23:55 utc | 191

Even in states where Jill Stein is not on the ballot (including, disgracefully, New York) voters can still give her a write-in vote by writing in her name.
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 20:35 utc | 95
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Unfortunately not always true. Arkansas, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina and South Dakota do not allow write-ins.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2024 23:58 utc | 192

re malenkov | Nov 4 2024 23:58 utc | 192
More to the point, there are three states where Stein is not on the ballot and write-ins are not allowed: Nevada, South Dakota, and Oklahoma.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 5 2024 0:03 utc | 193

More data:
Biden’s lead in 2020 was over 1 million, 1 day before the election.
Harris lead today, as of this morning, was 410K.
Again, Biden won Pennsylvania by 80,555 votes.
So again: the only way Harris is winning is a monster low prop Democrat turnout tomorrow – something that literally has never happened; something which has not happened to date in the early voting.
And the same demographics of low prop Democrats not turning out to vote, exists across the nation: Detroit, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Madison, Raleigh, etc etc.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 5 2024 0:03 utc | 194

“Cool. You think anyone will care or even notice your lack of voting? Do as you wish, but don’t come crying to us when the new President does something
you dislike.”
Posted by: ABOBA | Nov 4 2024 23:21 utc | 182
(to paraphrase Andy Dufresne, with a lazy eyed look) are you being deliberately obtuse? I thought i’d made it clear that it required enough people to realize the futility of the exercise to cause the powers that be to take notice. Red or blue, they care not how you vote…..just that you DO VOTE.
Do YOU think anyone will care or even notice if you DO vote?

Posted by: paddy_too | Nov 5 2024 0:04 utc | 195

aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 16:47 utc | 9
*** If I do cast a ballot for the presidency, it will be by means of a write-in for Emanuel Pastreich, who is running, not to win, but to publicize a program for those same values which infused the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. ***
But the USA (and its NATO imperial front) already has the same corrupt “values” as Washington, and surely there aren’t enough Amerindians left to dispossess any more…

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 5 2024 0:05 utc | 196

I could almost like Trump if he weren’t an Israel supporter. Still, the nationalist Jews (Israel) are finished, so they’re the least evil now.
The globalist Jews behind Harris are the bigger problem, and they’ll do anything to hold on to power – including destroying the whole rotten structure that supports them. The obvious answer is to vote for Trump to goad the globalists into overreaching in their desperate power grab, which I will be doing.
This is unlikely to be over any time soon. In spite of their cheating it will be much easier to win in the courts where money and influence are on their side. They’ll need chaos and some angle to deny the outcome, and some threat of violence to pressure the courts and society to accept their continued power.

Posted by: Farquad | Nov 5 2024 0:06 utc | 197

@ c1ue | Nov 5 2024 0:03 utc | 194
What is “low prop”?

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 5 2024 0:06 utc | 198

So many of those pathetic Trump cultists here.
All these great articles on this site and for what?
Pearls before swines.
Hardly 10 percent of comments are by sane people, the rest are far-out nutjobs.
Deep state! Marxists! Soros! Transgingers! Joe Rogan!
I really hope you get your civil war in the banana republic so you can finally use your freedom guns and start shooting eachother like the living caricatures you are.
Until there’s none of you dumbed down ignorant morons left and the world can evolve in peace.
The US is a cancer to the world and needs to be exterminated.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Nov 5 2024 0:09 utc | 199

Voters are not important contrary to people who count the votes.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 5 2024 0:10 utc | 200