Presidential Election 2024
"Neither is qualified. Both deserve to lose."
Video: Prof. Jeffrey Sachs Q & A at Cambridge Union as published on Oct 30 2024
Starting at 48:06 min (automated transcript, slightly edited):
Sachs:
I will not vote for a candidate that doesn't meet the minimum threshold for being president of the United States and we have two candidates, lead candidates, that don't. And so I decided I'm not voting - period. Because I want a candidate that actually has some possibility of doing something.
Now maybe they will but not based on what they say every day.
It is a profession of love for Israel's murderous reign in the Middle East. Okay, by itself I wouldn't support that. That's enough for me because Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza and it's sickening and it's obvious and we see it every day. And if a candidate can't figure out to say something about then I can't support them. Period.
But then Kamala Harris, who would normally be my candidate because I was a lifelong Democratic Party voter. Although with great disappointment whether they won or lost. Because when they won I was disappointed with what they did. When they lost I was disappointed that my candidate lost. So I've never been happy for a while about us politics.
It's been five miserable presidents as far as I'm concerned from Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, awful all of them. They brought us to the brink of nuclear war. I can't forgive them for that kind of recklessness.
But when it comes to Ukraine Harris says we stand with Ukraine. Just everybody understand what does it mean to stand with Ukraine, like Boris Johnson stands with Ukraine. It means 2,000 Ukrainians killed or wounded severely every single day. That's not standing with Ukraine. That is standing with the destruction of Ukraine. It's exactly the opposite. And so that's a purely Orwellian idea that we're standing with Ukraine by continuing this war.
And that's what she says because she doesn't seem to have any idea other than what she's told to say or she says her ideas. And either way I can't vote for her.
And with Trump - don't even get me started.
So the answer is I don't see either of them based on what they're saying right now doing much.
But I think there's another point that is important in this. I'm not without hope for a quite different reason and that is that our politics is not determined by American presidents. Our politics is determined by the Security State apparatus. And what is happening right now is not in America's security interest and so they could change their mind.
President Putin said something actually very interesting in an interview in 2017, I think in Figaro. By the time he had three presidents as his counterparts, Bush, Obama and Trump, and he said to this French reporter in 2017.
He said: "You know I've dealt with three American presidents. Now they come into office with ideas but then men in dark suits and blue ties come to tell them how the real situation is and you never hear of those ideas again."
And this is from a very tough-minded leader who was himself KGB he understands how the American system works very well. He understands what the CIA means for American foreign policy. He understands that American foreign policy is very deeply rooted.
It's not this one wins then Obama changes everything and then Trump comes in and changes nothing like that. By the way this has been a consistent foreign policy arguably since 19 certainly since 1991 and arguably since 1945.
- end of Jeffrey Sachs quote
Posted by b on November 4, 2024 at 16:24 UTC | Permalink
next page »The amazing thing is that most people haven't arrived at the same conclusion yet.
Posted by: Visitor | Nov 4 2024 16:30 utc | 2
Not voting is indistinguishable from "anything goes" approval.
The absolute minimum a citizen of a murderous nation owes the victims is to go and vote, and vote NONE OF THE ABOVE.
Posted by: the other b. | Nov 4 2024 16:34 utc | 3
Imagine Liz Cheney as Secretary of Defense & Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland as Secretary of State/CIA Director?:
https://jamesburrillangell.substack.com/p/strange-diplomacy-victoria-fck-the
I would have loved to hear his reasoning on why trump is not qualified to be president. But he doesnt give any reasons and becomes emotional. Something Jeffrey Sachs normally doesnt do. For somebody like him, that is quite unprofessional.
Posted by: uscalixtus | Nov 4 2024 16:38 utc | 5
Sachs reverts to his liberal jewish origins...Not voting is voting Kamala, a whore and dimwit who will be ignored by the neocons who want to create a dictatorship and start WWIII...Trump doesn't start wars, which is the key issue here, and is promising to give Musk and RFK a mandate to clean house...
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 4 2024 16:43 utc | 6
Good find, b. Sachs is always interesting, and I find myself agreeing with pretty much everything he says.
I respect his decision to not vote for "either" candidate (there are candidates besides Trump and Harris) but I suspect most people don't vote for any particular candidate, but for the candidate they estimate will do the least amount of (further) damage to their country.
I don't vote in US elections, but if I did, I'd probably vote for Trump because at least you have some idea of what you're getting, and the "Left" - with their endless race-baiting, DEI, Green lunacy, merger with the security apparatus, and their 2SLGBTQ+ delusions - have just become too insane to be supported.
Conversely, if people think that the sooner the West collapses, the more of worth will remain upon which to rebuild, then I can understand why they might vote Democratic.
Posted by: Observer | Nov 4 2024 16:44 utc | 7
why trump is not qualified to be president.
Posted by: uscalixtus | Nov 4 2024 16:38 utc | 5
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Do you suppose Trump's felony conviction will be reversed and that the pending charges against him will be dropped if he loses?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 16:45 utc | 8
Sachs' essay is a "coeur de cri"...a cry from the heart. Perhaps I see it that way because his stance reflects my own. That he chose to quote V.V.Putin's analysis of a newly seated president being confronted by those men in the dark suits and blue ties is a very telling assessment, both of Putin's realized understanding and that of Mr. Sachs.
Tomorrow, I will vote, primarily because there is a local school-board contest between an appointed law n' order figure being opposed by a friend who has some fair grasp of reality and the fact that public schools have become the realized nightmare which was John D. Rottenfeller's intent in founding and funding America's first college of edumacasion under the aegis of Columbia University.
Through the CURRICULUM engendered and engineered by the ruling elite; the American people have now been deliberately dumbed-down; an agenda unquestioningly passed into the minds of innocent children by means of deliberately programmed school teachers. This agenda amounts to nothing less than a top-down control mechanism by the conniving few over the deracinated many.
If I do cast a ballot for the presidency, it will be by means of a write-in for Emanuel Pastreich, who is running, not to win, but to publicize a program for those same values which infused the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 16:47 utc | 9
The best ad for Trump is Yuval Harari, WEF, saying Trump will wreck the existing World order....https://x.com/Resist_CBDC/status/1853298245876986222
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 4 2024 16:48 utc | 10
Lifelong Jewish Democrat hates the Republican. What a shock. And yet it's not going to matter: the security state failed to deal with Trump using lawfare and bullets. The smart thing would be to drop the charges against Trump... but I have little doubt he's going to go on offense against the New York sponsored judges instead.
But it isn't the ballot tally that matters. Every election the Trump movement grows larger, and angrier, and better armed. The Austrian would have salivated to do daily rallies for that kind of audience. It's a bonfire waiting for a spark.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 4 2024 16:48 utc | 11
Episode 22 of Michael Wolff’s Fire and Fury podcast: Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, published October 31, 2024, 29 minutes.
This is the description for the recording:
In this episode, Michael reveals a key source for his reporting on Donald Trump: Jeffrey Epstein. Through behind-the-scenes stories and never-before-heard recordings, Michael recounts Epstein's candid insights into Trump’s rise, revealing a world of power plays, unsettling competitions, and twisted allegiances. The conversation unearths Epstein’s perspective on Trump’s character, ambition, and his relentless pursuit of power.
There is a follow up, Epstein: From Beyond the Grave, published today, the 4th of November.
Both are well worth your time!
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 4 2024 16:49 utc | 12
I would have loved to hear his reasoning on why trump is not qualified to be president. But he doesnt give any reasons and becomes emotional. Something Jeffrey Sachs normally doesnt do. For somebody like him, that is quite unprofessional.
Posted by: uscalixtus | Nov 4 2024 16:38 utc | 5
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I agree. At the very least Sachs can vote for Jill Stein.
Or write in a candidate's name.
Plus, there are local races wherever he lives.
IMO it is the obligation of every citizen to vote.
Not to take his vote and go home with his thumb in his mouth.
Actually, this statement of Sachs's is a veiled partisan statement.
He doesn't dare, or have the balls, to take the step that many disgusted Dems are taking, which is to grasp the necessity of rejecting the horrible cabal-crowned Harris and her cabal-controlled party, and to take a chance on Trump.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 4 2024 16:52 utc | 13
See what happens when ypu live in a "shithole" country ...
Posted by: Victor G. | Nov 4 2024 16:52 utc | 14
"History and common sense tell us that liberty, opportunity, and justice thrive in a democracy, not in an autocracy."
President Joseph R. Biden, Jr., November 2022
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 4 2024 16:55 utc | 15
Like so many public writers who prefer not to be deplatformed by directly assailing the movers and shakers; primarily the financier elite...most of them being part of a Tribalist Cabal...Sachs appears to be in hopes that his readers will read between the lines, connect the dots...and come to the realization that the Zionist Entity is the tail which wags the U$$A designated attack dog.
As President Putin of the Russian Union so clearly understands, those men in the dark suits and blue ties do not themselves possess actual agency. They are selected minions carrying out the orders of the shotcallers/stringpullers. Most people fear for their jobs, their spouses and their offspring. I posses none of the above. Also, I am quite aware that we are spirits, as emanations of Creator and that in the words of John Donne "Death be not Proud". Generally speaking: "We are born again...and again...and again.
Spirit is eternal. The Sanhedrin and their ruling elite financiers are not.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 16:56 utc | 16
The Truman Doctrine is the basis for US foreign policy since WW II and provides the ideological justification for all the wars the US has fought since interfering in the Korean civil war.
Posted by: Wilikins | Nov 4 2024 16:57 utc | 17
"Neither is qualified. Both deserve to lose."
Agree 100%.
Even though Jeffrey put The economics in place in the 80's to asset strip Russia. Was the architect of "shock therapy " that Naomi Klein has exposed to the world today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)
The father of neoliberalism, should be in a Russian Jail.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 16:58 utc | 18
thanks b... i just finished watching the jeffrey sachs interview and appreciate all those who recommended it..he is so right in so much of what he says in the full interview..
Posted by: james | Nov 4 2024 16:59 utc | 19
Forgetting that, as became clear decades later, it almost came to a nuclear war with the Cuban Missile Crisis by Kennedy & Co. 1962! By the way, the problem is simple, from beginning to end de facto only two candidates who are both a puppet. Dear people, it doesn't matter who is in the circus and get out of that R.E.M. sleep because what are we going to call the US? A democracy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy
Posted by: Faraday | Nov 4 2024 17:01 utc | 20
The POTUS is akin to a locomotive conductor. He can't turn on a dime. The policy is set, like the railroad tracks he's on. He can only make the train go fast, or slow down.
Don't be fooled by “the circus.”
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 4 2024 17:02 utc | 21
Both ARE unqualified. But unqualified ass hats have been shoved to the fore for generations.
Posted by: MoT | Nov 4 2024 17:06 utc | 22
Jeffrey is completely against war.
He prefers to take countries over using the architecture within the IMF he created. Do it within dark panel wooden rooms and bottles of Evian water rather than out in the open.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:07 utc | 23
If both are not qualified then the people in America simply have no choice.
Posted by: Faraday | Nov 4 2024 17:09 utc | 24
I like Prof. Sachs, agree with many of his opinions, and appreciate his decision not to vote…!
BUT HE IS WRONG.
We know Harris will continue the Zionist policy of absolute support for whatever Israel does…!
Trump may not. He likely will be told by Pentagon that America cannot afford a war with Iran. Accordingly, Trump may be reasoned with. Harris cannot.
About Ukraine, Trump will at once cut all support and finding. He will leave it up to Europeans.
Russia will impose her will in Ukraine and will do so adamantly. No negotiations; just Russian demands.
In all respects, Trump is a flawed candidate with little understanding of most issues… but he is preferable to Kamala who is a Bolchevik…
On the downside, trump will again surround himself with Zionists… Case in point, Trump’s transition team co-chair is Howard Lutnick, a deeply rooted Pharisee Zionist, who will make sure Trump is properly controlled by Israel… I hope Trump doesn’t fall for that again.
Posted by: Liberator | Nov 4 2024 17:10 utc | 25
Trump represents what many on the board believe in, white supremacy, male supremacy, white Western national supremacy, European supremacy, the order of society with them at the pinnacle. The enemies are the Jews,Arabs,Blacks,intellectuals,gays, feminists and immigrants, communists. Anger and fear of a society in decline and decay rule and someone like Trump who represents kickass authority is their man. The authoritarian personality type rules. The man who is in rebellion against an unjust system but a conformist who wants a real order of rules everyone must obey and that subjugates his enemies. The guys on the board are white guys who are conservative or radical right. The typical Maga is a white guy. Resentment about the changes in Western society like the growth of the rights of women for example and the loss of status and usefulness of white men in American is fueling Trump support. It's the promise of authoritarian control of society, that changes and the loss of their power will be stopped that makes them and that Mussolini's promise of fascism as a revolution of reaction will be fulfilled. This is fascism in America and like fascists of old it will go to war against internal and external enemies of the state it controls which will include Russia.
Posted by: Bakunin17 | Nov 4 2024 17:12 utc | 26
It's a fake election,
And i can tell you the result....
It's a win for israel and the jews.
Its a lose for the american public.
Its a win for a US iminante civil war.
World war 3 just months away.
Those b 52 bombers are parked in Quate for the result of this election.
trump will attack Iran, and hasten the genicide in Gaza and Lebanam.
He'll also give Ukraine alot more weapons, US tax payers money and support.
With harris its buseness as usal.
Yes that bad.
Now back to the simpsons (sark) (same thing)
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 17:14 utc | 27
Allow for one minor criticism of Sachs' plangent essay. He states that he has been a lifelong supporter of the "Democratic" party. Semantically that assumed term is no longer correct and likely has not earned that appellation...to some degree, anyway, since the first Inauguration of Andrew Jackson. Not only were men of fame and fortune invited to the White House that night. So too were his innumerable rag-tag supporters...men...and occasionally women...of modest means.
Jackson's supporters would be well described as the "Democracy". That gala on Pennsylvania Avenue resulted in wads of tobacco spattered all over expensive rugs and carpets and similar effusions from those "good ole boys" from the frontier society which elected the man...democracy in action.
Most Americans have been so deliberately dumbed down by bad textbook and constant and consistent insistence that America is a "Democracy". Nothing could be further from the truth in this ruptured republic. Chances are very high that the majority of the Jacksonian "democracy" will cast their ballots for the Trumpeting Elephant. It's a grand delusion. The Bipartisan reality is that the strings of both entities are pulled from above their pay grades. The slick salesman spouts rhetoric which would be nice...if he is not under orders not to follow through. Like all nominees since the Deep $tate murdered JFK...it is highly likely that both Candied-Dates have been shown the "redacted" portion of the Zapruder tapes.
Ego cases and social climbers are inevitably afraid of the prospect of their own demise. They will obey.
As for the Republicans...they are just the other side of the coin from the Democrats. Don't have a good sobriquet for the Elephantines.
Judging from what they did to the likes of Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard in 2020; it is highly evident...in stark relief...that the Democrat party cannot honestly call themselves "Democratic". The DNC, like the RNC, are controlled by the rampant moneymongers. In all truth, they do not represent the will of even the more deliberately dumbed down elements of We The People.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 17:15 utc | 28
It's been five miserable presidents as far as I'm concerned from Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, awful all of them.SIX. Not five. SIX. Maybe seven - I'm on the fence about Reagan. And Trump might not have been so miserable if the entire bureaucracy and his own appointees weren't backstabbing him the entire time. He'd have been bad, as he was completely unprepared, but perhaps not AS bad.
Still, he has learned, and with the shedding of the RINOS and the addition of true coalition people like RFK, Gabbard, Ron Paul, et al, he is, this time, probably the most viable candidate in a century. If only someone can explain to him why tariffs are bad.
The alternative is unthinkably bad. And Biden has proved that the president doesn't run the country anyway.
Posted by: The Owl | Nov 4 2024 17:17 utc | 29
Carlin knew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X4Z1lLUMfw
Posted by: WilsonK | Nov 4 2024 17:17 utc | 30
Trump's belief in nationalism and sovereignty is the antithesis of Jeffery 's belief in shock therapy neoliberalism.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:17 utc | 31
IMO, with Kamala Harris, there is no hope of any change in policy, no hope of any clear policy, and the interference of the US in world affairs will continue to cause death, destruction, and conflicts, while profiting the multinational corporations and banks. Her words cannot be trusted, as she is promoting ads that support Israel in Pennsylvania and ads that are more supportive of Palestinians in Minnesota. I cannot even imagine her negotiating anything with intelligent, accomplished leaders like Presidents Putin and Xi.
With Donald Trump, there might be a sliver of possibility. One sign is that in Dearborn, MI, Muslim leaders endorsed Donald Trump. Another sign is that his "transition team" has been working for a long while - not under the purview of the men in the dark suits and the dark suits are not happy. Trump admitted in one interview that one of the problems in his administration was that he chose "some very bad people". I believe that he was pushed to make those choices because of the Senate approval process that told him who would be approved and who would not be approved. I also think he was very naive in 2016.
Today, an article in the American Thinker has some information about the "Iran deal" and the evil men in dark suits. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/11/the_iran_deal_the_democrats_killed.html
I can't help but hope positively that of the two choices, maybe Donald Trump who at least talks about peace might be able to do something to end conflicts.
Posted by: Belle | Nov 4 2024 17:18 utc | 32
The primary qualification for President of the Untied States is that they not commit treason against the country. Trump is qualified. Harris (or at least, the people she works for) is not.
The current administration is aiding an abetting a foreign invasion of the United States, for the express purpose of driving wages and living standards down for the many, and rents and profits up for the few. This is treason. Trump - for all that yes most of his promises if elected he won't even try to keep - when he was president, he did NOT open the border to a foreign invasion, and in fact despite not building the wall, got the numbers down substantially.
What, we need massive immigration because we have a terrible labor 'shortage'? What rot. There is not, there never has been, there never can be, a true labor 'shortage.' Labor is either valuable, or it is not. There is no 'shortage' of workers desperate for 50 cents an hour jobs in India - would you really want to work there? Well, vote for Harris and your grandkids essentially will.
Sure Trump is jerk, so what. If you work for a living, or if you only care about people who work for a living, you must vote for Trump.
Posted by: TG | Nov 4 2024 17:19 utc | 33
The typical Maga is a white guy. Resentment ... Posted by: Bakunin17 | Nov 4 2024 17:12 utc | 26
What flavor is that Kool-Aid? Oh ... it's in your statement .. "resentment" flavor ...
Posted by: The Owl | Nov 4 2024 17:20 utc | 34
Don Bacon@1655
Fascinating falsehoods from a congenital liar. Since he first got into politrix, Biden has been the plaything of the Dupont Crime Clan, rulers of the $tate of Dupont (aka Delaware). Like so many pro$titicians, Biden is a made man. He is OWNED, lock, stock and poppycock.
Galloping senility has been the reward for services , faithfully in service to his masters.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 17:22 utc | 35
Sure Trump is jerk, so what. If you work for a living, or if you only care about people who work for a living, you must vote for Trump.
Posted by: TG | Nov 4 2024 17:19 utc | 33
Really ?
https://stephaniekelton.substack.com/p/flipping-the-script
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:23 utc | 36
Is this a joke?
"In this episode, Michael reveals a key source for his reporting on Donald Trump: Jeffrey Epstein."
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 4 2024 16:49 utc | 12
We are supposed to take seriously the Deep Thoughts of Jeffrey Epstein?
Remember that Trump barred Epstein from Mar del Lago after he propositioned the teenaged daughter of one of Trump's employees.
But I'm sure his Deep Thoughts are well worth our time.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 4 2024 17:24 utc | 37
I wonder why people who recognize that both parties suck, act like other options don't exist. If you really want to make a statement in opposition to the Israeli/US genocide, why not vote for Jill Stein? (assuming you CAN in your state). Better to lose with someone reflecting your values, than win/lose with someone you strongly oppose.
Posted by: T_Reg | Nov 4 2024 17:26 utc | 38
I think this is a very shallow piece by Sachs
He starts out by not admitting that there is a 3rd party candidate that meets his requirements, Jill Stein. He doesn't even have the brains to understand that America need a 3rd party to end the current red/blue money party monopoly or doesn't know it exists.
And then like he just fell of the turnip truck yesterday he says
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It's been five miserable presidents as far as I'm concerned from Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, awful all of them. They brought us to the brink of nuclear war. I can't forgive them for that kind of recklessness.
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No inclusion of Reagan that changed SSI from being standalone to becoming budget football, nor his attempts to stir military unrest.
No inclusion of the original Bush, of CIA leadership that has probably done the most to keep the war machine of empire moving
And towards the end he says about Putin; "He understands that American foreign policy is very deeply rooted." What does deeply rooted mean and why do people like him use such meaningless words. I keep saying the deep roots are the God Of Mammon cult and followers. Maybe others could say it is bible interpretations. Wherever the men in dark suits with blue ties get their marching orders from is important to know because otherwise we only know who humanities enemies are by their actions.
I encourage barflies to vote for Jill Stein in the hope she will get at least 5% of the vote which would give America a much needed 3rd party.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 17:27 utc | 39
Sachs only now realises that democracy is a sham! I for one can't take him seriously, he reminds me of a teenager who thinks he's an adult. Columbia university, the intellectual powerhouse of New York, give us a break.
Posted by: Ogre | Nov 4 2024 17:29 utc | 40
I thought Jeffery would be for Harris myself.
Shock therapy neoliberalism, IMF style on other countries, is right up her street. I thought they would be a match made in heaven to be honest.
I guess he only likes it being done behind close doors and not out in the open.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:30 utc | 41
@ Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 16:45 utc | 8
The 'felony' conviction (which wasn't even close to a felony offense) will be thrown out after the election, Trump winning of losing.
During the Appeals Court questioning of the DA office, the questions focused on why was this case prosecuted in the first place?
Two judges came out and said there was no precedence, and that the law used was for consumer fraud, which didn't happen in this instance.
Another questioned how many misdemeanors could add up to a felony.
In a nut shell, what Trump did was no different than any avg person does for a home improvement loan.
It was all a case for show, and they know it.
But the NY judges have another issue, keeping the state of NY alive and afloat. Kevin O'Leary has already named them a loser state, and he will never do business there again. Many silent big money people agree with him.
Micron has chosen a site in upstate NY for a new factory (using federal money) but is slow rolling the preliminary actions needed before even starting to build. That slow down occurred when the Trump case started. The MSM never puts 2 + 2 together to wonder why.
NY state also loses over 30,000 people a year, even with the influx of illegals. High taxes, high crime, union control have driven companies out of state and business.
Remember Kodak and Xerox? Gone. Steel mills and foundries...gone.
Small factories that made furniture, electronics, auto supplies, tile, and other home goods...gone.
NY used to have the most electoral votes, it is now 4th. After the 2030 census (unless there is a huge turnaround) it will likely be 5th or 6th, losing national influence and significance.
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 4 2024 17:31 utc | 42
The two B-52 bombers in Qatar have a combat range of 8,000 miles and the distance to Tehran is about 700 miles, so they're just showing off and do make nice targets on the ground.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 4 2024 17:33 utc | 43
I agree with Sachs comment that neither Harris or Trump are qualified. They're both clowns. Sachs has endorsed Jill Stein. So why won't he vote for her? A vote for Harris or Trump is a vote for genocide. AIPAC/Israel owns our government. Amounts used to buy them:
Kamala Harris - $5,395,227
Washington State:
Maria Cantwell - $505,191
Patty Murray - $681,306
Adam Smith - $453,848
Kim Schrier - $251,739
Derek Kilmer - $87,150
Cathy McMorris Rogers - $141,828
Marilyn Strickland - $267,999
Suzan Delbene $163,044
Rick Larsen - $106,100
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez - $156,139
Dan Newhouse - $55,750
Donald Trump has received more than a million from AIPAC & is wholly owned by Miriam Adelson who has given more than $100 million to his campaign. Vote 3rd party en masse or nothing will fundamentally change just as Joe Biden (more than $11 million from AIPAC) promised.
Voting 3rd party is not a waste, it builds foundations for change. They may not win, but say they get 5% of the vote, they gain the funding akin to Dems & Reps and can better compete against them. Change starts somewhere, postponing it only makes it harder to bring about change.
Posted by: ZimInSeattle | Nov 4 2024 17:33 utc | 44
@ psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 17:27 utc | 39
re: America needs a 3rd party
Yes, and maybe a fourth, and let's say term limits and contribution limits to be thorough.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 4 2024 17:38 utc | 46
Wilikins@1567
Despite his name, Truman was not a true man. He was but a tool, first as a political condotierri for the criminal Prendergast machine in Kansas City...then chosen by big city bosses...particularly the ones in Chicago where the Dem national convention was held in '44.
Truman was basically a nonentity with no personal agency. He was (s)elected by the bosses...and their bosses..because he was fully pliable and a faithful "waiter" who always followed orders. Meanwhile, Henry Agard Wallace, the sitting Vice President, represented a soon to be demolished agricultural heartland, publisher of Wallace's Farmer, a bit of a radical and almost as independent as a Missouri mule...but one state away in heavily agricultural Iowa. He even wanted to make nice with the Soviets.
However, the Cold War agenda was already in place. Under the rulership of the owners of the "Federal" Reserve Bank; the strategy was to establish a security state under the soon to be formed CIA and its even more secretive "brother", the N$A. Primary intent was to keep the bucks flowing into the hands of those who already had established firm grips over the WarDefense Industry, most particularly the "bomb them all" new Untied $kates AIRFARCE...now no longer under the control by the War Department (aka Army), but under the new "Department of Defense", now comfortably ensconced in the Pentagram.
So the masking entity, the Truman Doctrine, had nothing to do with actual decision making by the selected successor to FDR, whose own death in April of '45 in Warm Springs, Georgia...should be considered as highly suspicious. Though mostly a tool in his own right, Roosevelt was sufficient of an egotist to the point where was not considered as 100% reliable...a bit similar in that respect to Donald Trump.
That probable actual winner tomorrow is considered by the ruling elite as being an utter egotist, cannot be controlled 100 oercent. That personality factor may be the Donald's only saving grace...but to keep the fingers on both hands assiduously crossed.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 4 2024 17:42 utc | 47
I encourage barflies to vote for Jill Stein in the hope she will get at least 5% of the vote which would give America a much needed 3rd party.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 17:27 utc | 39
Well said that man ! Psychohistorian nails it once again.
Unfortunately, can't vote but will get the popcorn out and watch the freak show with a big grin on my face from afar. "Que Sera, Sera".
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:46 utc | 48
T_Reg | Nov 4 2024 17:26 utc | 38--
Yes, you win the prize for the best comment! Everyone at "root" ought to be a values voter--you vote for the candidate who best represents the values you hold. The Ds and Rs long ago ceased being capable of attracting values voters. Neither Trump nor Harris discussed policy and other vital questions related to the failing Outlaw US Empire, and in the course of their campaigning turned their opponent into the Other that's Evil and must be defeated at all costs. Once it was Russia, China, Cuba, or some other nation or peoples (Native Americans) that were the Other Evil that must be extinguished lest they somehow pollute our gene pool. For all his education and supposed life experience, Mr. Sachs provides a rather lame speech that many have already denigrated. I'm with psychohistorian--Vote for Stein if you can or whoever it is on your ballot that matches your values; and if there is none, write in yourself.
I agree, the only good news is that regardless whether it's Kameltoe or Agent Orange that wins, not much will change in the world.
A Trump win could mean a chance for Europeans nationalists to wake up (with all the good and bad that could mean) and a tougher job for its cucked Atlanticist ruling class to ride on the destructive NATO/EU agenda, but potentially a worse outlook for the Middle East and the Pacific theaters. We would soon know by the cabinet he picks how bad.
A Trump win could also very likely mean a Vance presidency.
A Harris win... more of the same nihilistic deep state program served on an autocue reflector. A second gear cruise control ride into fall of empire served with unprecedented levels of bs and gaslighting.
If we are to be led into WW3 or financial ruin, then may it at least be more entertaining and coated with less patronizing bullcrap and virtue signaling vapid wokeness. I can't believe I am saying this, but i almost hope Trump will win for this alone.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Nov 4 2024 18:00 utc | 51
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 4 2024 17:24 utc | 37
You seem to forget Epstein and Trump were BFFs for an extended period of time, during the 80s and 90s.
And that Epstein "killed himself" during The Orange Lubavicher's first term as T(eleprompter)OTUS.
And that the pathologist Epstein's brother hired publicly claimed that "everything points to homicide".
You do the math.
Personally, I don't give a dead rat's ass. Whichever of the 2 Zio-puppets wins, you 'Muricans are on the losing end...
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 4 2024 18:01 utc | 52
Vote for Stein if you can or whoever it is on your ballot that matches your values; and if there is none, write in yourself.
karlof1 | Nov 4 2024 17:48 utc | 49
Sage words!
I'd be tempted to write in Julian Assange.
Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Nov 4 2024 18:04 utc | 53
I could never support Kamyhoe Harris under any circumstances.
She is without a doubt the lowest intelligent individual to run for President in the modern era. She has no discernable work or life experience record what so ever.
Her numerous political accomplishments engender from her apparent ability to sleep with powerful politicians, and as such advance her political career dramatically.
Her inability to focus on any specific issue with any degree of detail should auto disqualify her from the highest office in the US.....but of course it will not.
The absolute disaster at the southern US border during her assignment as Border Czar alone is grounds for an impeachment and treason trial....over 12 million illegal aliens have breached the southern border, as she basically ordered the US Border Patrol to stand down and become home sitters for the aliens instead of border enforcement officers. At least 4 million aliens have entered the US via by passing all border checkpoints, and are now on the loose in the US. There is no accountability for their actions, and US citizens especially females are at risk for sexual attack, rape and murder. That is not even counting the danger from cartel soldiers, drug dealers, drug movers, felons and armed robbers, and ODC's now roaming at will throughout the country. It is not an understatement to state that Kamyhoe has endangered the entire Republic. A gross incompetent of classic form. A female version of Nero no doubt.
The US following Tuesday will be in a prolonged period of insurrection and tumult, whether from the far left - BLM or Antifa or Trotskyite forces or the far right from various armed militia groups and dis-satisfied state and local governments....it will not be pretty.....stay tuned......and buy lots of ammo and popcorn..... the big show is about to start as Ed Sullivan was fond of saying !
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 18:09 utc | 54
Best analysis of US election have seen.
2024: The Least Consequential Election Of My Life
https://indi.ca/2024-the-least-consequential-election-of-my-life/
Posted by: Thurl | Nov 4 2024 18:10 utc | 55
In the end it doesn't even matter who you're voting for.
It's funny from an external PoV to see the mood change from casual geriatrics to sheakspearean theatrics : William Henry III : "there is something rotten in the kingdom of trademark".
Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 4 2024 18:10 utc | 56
You can judge Trump by his enemies (I.e. Dick Cheney and the National Security State). If the election doesn’t matter, they wouldn’t care, he would have skated through like Obama. They would not try to kill him, they would not try to bankrupt him, they would not impeach him, they would not steal 2020, there would be no per dossiers, there would be no Russiagate, there would be no Ukrainegate, there would be no pussygate. If he is the same or worse, why do they care?
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 4 2024 18:11 utc | 57
I listened to Jeffrey Sacks’ delivery at the Oxford Union event yesterday — after finding the link b provided in his generous offering in The Week in Review.
I digest much of the usual analysts and commentators’ opinions that most of us at MOA are familiar with. But I have no personal knowledge of how political power works other than how it impacts ordinary people. Much of that “operation” includes keeping people ignorant and misinformed, divided, as the MOA never ceases to point out with example after example. I live in the rural heartland of the US.
It appears to me there is a significant fracture at the intel-national security-interagency level of political power, amongst those who collect data and feed the system — often with controlled narratives and stove-piped “data” to shape policy and public opinion. This was/is a ponzi scheme of a sort which has failed now with all to see who are looking. No democracy in sight.
The operators who have much to lose by tacking toward more reality-based analysis and policy planning will continue to double down on failure.
Neocon neoliberal operators (there are less prettified words for them) are backing Harris and a continuation of the status quo: genocide, murder & mayhem, from Ukraine to Russia, the EU, the Levant and regions, and China. They are the same cast of agenda-driven international criminals who since 2000 and before have moved back and forth seamlessly, opportunistically, between the Ds and Rs.
Operators who see need for a drastic (well, for an imperialist bureaucracy, it mayn’t be very drastic) change of thinking and direction, are pushing for “reform.” They back the Trump. They see the world has changed and there’s need for a redo.
Trump is an avatar for “reform” for so-called libertarians, patriots, old-school conservatives, and disillusioned small-d democrats. They back Trump for a spectrum of reasons.
Some of them understand the dynamics of power in the US — as President Putin so aptly described it: The guys in blue suits with blue ties appear before the newly (s)elected President and say, “Your campaign promises worked great. Now here’s what you’re gonna do instead.”
Because we are at an inflection point and there is fracture within the ranks of the deep structures of the bureaucracy, there is a possibility for “reform” which could stop the war state crimes against self and others. Justice? Another question.
Whilst Sacks not voting for either incompetent candidate is a principled stance, if one considers what’s behind the curtains of which we get rare glimpses, supporting one over the other can have its sound reasoning for an instant of time.
The concentration of capital in the so-called West skyrocketed in the past 5 years, meaning there are very very few people with real power in this materialist system. What role do they play, will they play, in this battle for the future of Anglo-American imperialism? Time will tell. They are the outter doll of this layered power structure.
Posted by: suzan | Nov 4 2024 18:15 utc | 58
Trump = Nero
Posted by: Exile | Nov 4 2024 17:49 utc | 50
Why are you insulting Nero?
Posted by: Naive | Nov 4 2024 18:19 utc | 60
I have grudgingly switched to the view that Sachs is a dupe as opposed to an executor of the disastrous policies that led to Russia’s Lost Decade.
But it is quite clear that he is still very early on his journey to discovering that the Democrat party is the party of the Deep State now - the party of censorship; the party of war; the party of the American elites; the party of neocons and neoliberals.
Note how he makes no mention of RFK Jr or Tulsi Gabbard or of Trump’s persecution by the full power of the US Deep State: the Russiagate nonsense, the “51 Intel chiefs” suppressing actual facts, the blatant law fare by the literal organs of the US government.
Trump is no saint, nor is he the Messiah.
But what he is, is a measurably greater possibility of reform of the Deep State in the past generation.
Kamala Harris is manifestly not. She is the literal sock puppet inserted to replace an actually elected President and Democrat party nominee for President.
Succeed or fail, I am willing to give him (another) chance.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 18:23 utc | 61
Don Bacon 43 - Those two B 52's are purely for show. At this point in their long career (these ships were built in the early 1970's and are the last models "H" I believe!)
Anyway at this point in time they are suitable only for dumb bombing third countries without any AAD systems or launching cruise missiles.
These dinosaurs would be easy marks for a S400 system, so dont expect them to be anywhere near Iranian airspace. Maybe you will see them over Yemen, but that too is doubtful.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 18:30 utc | 62
Have never voted Republican but have reasoned discussions with those friends. Pretty clear on a shared opinion re Trump. Can't vote Dem with their cheerleading slaughter in Gaza and their last decade of F-around and F-out in eastern Urp. Observing incompetence in action. Both candidates will empty their citizens' pockets to slaughter innocents abroad in keeping their financiers' machinations going, until they don't. It's about that time we'll probably want to duck...
Posted by: Ledovik1 | Nov 4 2024 18:35 utc | 63
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Agreed. There's an outside chance Trump with his various disputes with development planners may rationalise that you need to bring the locals onboard when you propose to turn Gaza into a Trumpian Zionist golf resort but for certs Kamala will follow the Zionist line complicitously. Interestingly, when you analyse their respective backgrounds Kamala's family were complicit in the slave owners world whilst Drumpf's is Celtic German entrepreneurialship. As for Ukraine DT is the better option to end the annihilation of the Ukrainian population at the hands of a neo con junta
Posted by: Cavery | Nov 4 2024 18:37 utc | 64
On a more fun note: the wife wanted to bet on the election. With the court decision a week or two ago, Americans can now do so via Kalshi or Interactive Brokers.
I helped her set up an account and off she went.
Last night Trump was 52% chance to win meaning $100 bet returns $192 if he wins. This morning it has been fluctuating between 54% and 53%.
That is not the interesting part.
What is interesting is that Kalshi has 82% odds on the Republicans getting at least 51 Senate seats = Senate control.
If Harris does not win, it seems exceedingly unlikely that the existing House control does not change from the Republicans.
So for all you TDS out there: think about Trump not just winning but having full Republican control of Congress. Not filibuster or foolproof, but control nonetheless.
As I have noted before: Barnes thinks 55 to 57 for which the 55 is 20 to 1 and 56 or more is 15 to 1.
Other items of interest: Trump is favored to win Pennsylvania at 55% but Harris is favored in Wisconsin and Michigan by 60%+ margins.
This is interesting because Barnes and Baris have said (and I have verified) that no presidential candidate has won just one or two of these 3 states since 1988 - it is all or nothing.
My view is obvious of course - this represents nice betting odds on Trump winning anyway.
I had no plans to do any betting, but since she opened an account - I gave her $200 of my money to add to her own bets.
Maybe be a very nice November indeed lol
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 18:38 utc | 65
Trump wont be able to change anything. Deep syate is going to ignore or sabotage his eventual actions to stop the war.
The west id going defeat Russia or die if it fails. Unlike Putin, the west considers this war as an existential, total war and acts according to that.
Posted by: vargas | Nov 4 2024 18:38 utc | 66
Vargas, you are fired, get the hell out of here.
Courtesy of D. Trump.
Posted by: scc | Nov 4 2024 18:52 utc | 67
This may come as a surprise to some but nothing that we type into b's blog affects the real world.
Not voting is fine. If you think that your vote matters, also fine. If you think that voting Stein (who is clearly qualified for the job, hence chanceless) makes a point: more power to you.
It's only an election.
I *did* have to laugh so hard eight years ago when Trump won. That was too funny because German mainstream media, as elsewhere, was cocksure of Hillary "Deplorable" Clinton's win. Plus the shocked faces of my colleagues :) But it is just an election.
"In Western democracies, you can change the parties but not the policy. In China, you can't change the party but can change the policy."
Posted by: Konami | Nov 4 2024 19:03 utc | 68
@ Sun Of Alabama | Nov 4 2024 17:07 utc | 23
clearly you are living in the past and holding to a viewpoint on sachs of the past, not the present.. you definitely didn't watch the full video..
@ c1ue | Nov 4 2024 18:23 utc | 61
he is a changed person from the previous roles he's played and what he says is of great relevance to the ordinary person in the usa... he might have been a dupe before, but i don't think he is now... watch the video if you have the time... good luck with the betting, lol..
------------ now to my viewpoint... the cia is running things and sachs notes this.... that is more then can be said for the candidates running for president and many in the world who think the usa president actually calls the shots.. they don't and haven't for a long time... jfks assassination in 1963 attests to this - something sachs also points out in the video... as pat lang said - until the cia-fbi are dismantled and held accountable, nothing is going to change here..
Posted by: james | Nov 4 2024 19:03 utc | 69
Trump is no saint, nor is he the Messiah.
But what he is, is a measurably greater possibility of reform of the Deep State in the past generation.
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Succeed or fail, I am willing to give him (another) chance.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 18:23 utc | 61
Agree. Trump, a past master of welching on his debts, will be a lame duck and not running for re-election. Every possibility that he will make things worse in Palestine (and elsewhere) but, ego man
that he is, he may just try to leave a decent legacy for himself and say f.u. to those like Adelson who
have backed him. A long shot of course but otherwise, Jill Stein for the 5% threshold.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 4 2024 19:05 utc | 70
Sachs kept voting for Democrats even though every one of them turned out to be worse than the previous one. What's that they say about doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different outcomes? And don't get him started on Trump -- why? Why can't he delineate his gripes with Trump? If there are so many, why not pick the top three? The fact that Trump will likely stop the war in Ukraine doesn't seem to check any of Sachs' boxes, so what's he really looking for in a president? As for the genocide in Gaza, there may not be much hope no matter who wins. But the fact is, all the major wars in the last two centuries, except for Iraq and Afghanistan, were started under Democrat administrations. And Iraq and Afghanistan were started by neocons, who have since migrated to the Democrat side and are supporting Harris. So, Mr. Sachs, where have your anti-war credentials been for the last few decades as your elected officials were starting war after war?
Posted by: GioCon | Nov 4 2024 19:07 utc | 71
absent government managerial experience, think Governor, any businessman is more qualified to be POTUS than a Senator, congressperson, academic or economist. Get stuffed Sachs.
Posted by: seenitbefore | Nov 4 2024 19:10 utc | 72
Sachs could have shown his intellect a bit more if he also elaborated more over not voting Trump instead of acting like a woke fat lesb..
He disappointed me and now shows himself to be just another deepseated partisan. I bet he already voted for Harris.
I have no vote in this, but even I would at least have given Trump a chance if I could. Not that I really believe he could succeeed in any deal, but at least you know the DS hates him, so that's something.
Sachs is a grandstanding cryptoliberal.
Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 4 2024 19:11 utc | 73
I'd be tempted to write in Julian Assange.
Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Nov 4 2024 18:04 utc | 53
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Why not Aaron Bushnell? Most perfect protest vote imaginable.
(That much said, I voted for Stein.)
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2024 19:14 utc | 74
What qualifications do you need to reign over a dying failed empire?
Posted by: nook | Nov 4 2024 19:17 utc | 75
I wasn't going to vote at all, given the "choice of Genocide Joe's hoe & Mass Murderer the Marmalade Messiah, but turns out my town has an important ordinance on the ballot:
... the right to obtain food & seed directly from farmers & community venues via purchase, trade, donation, exchange, etc.
Codifies the right to eat, so important. Sad it had come to this.
Since I'm already voting, I'll write in who I follow, since He is not on the ballot.
Posted by: Mary | Nov 4 2024 19:19 utc | 76
It's just political theater to entertain the masses while the bigwigs do their dirty business called "foreign policy." I don't live in a likely 'contested' state, so I won't vote either. But if I did, I guess I would vote for the less "cringeworthy" candidate, only because I wouldn't feel quite as embarrassed when they speak to the ROW.
Posted by: norecovery | Nov 4 2024 19:24 utc | 77
What qualifications do you need to reign over a dying failed empire?
Posted by: nook | Nov 4 2024 19:17 utc | 75
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Junkyard proprietor.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 4 2024 19:24 utc | 78
About which candidate is more likely to charge forward to nuclear Armageddon, remember that an individual’s consciousness is formed from their livelihood.
While working class people are most solidly grounded to physical reality due to their role in the production process, capitalists themselves can be nearer or further from a reality-based consciousness depending upon where their wealth comes from. Big finance capitalists are of course the most divorced from realism, while capitalists with interests centered on manufacturing, agriculture, real estate, and other such physically tangible businesses will necessarily be more reality-based.
Trump is essentially a real estate developer. That means that as far as big American capitalists go, he is more in touch with objective reality. This is apparently the case with much of his support base in the Empire’s oligarchy. The faction of the oligarchy backing Harris is mostly big finance. Objective physical reality is an abstraction to them. As for Harris herself, what consciousness can a rung-grabbing whore have? One grounded in mattresses, I assume.
Basically, nukes are bad for real estate values and casino attendance, so the threat of nuclear war is something we can count on Trump taking seriously. The Harris team is solidly in the psychological realm where gender fluidity makes sense; a place of magic defined by one’s wants and desires. They are confident that nuclear war can simply be “cancelled” if it doesn’t work out for them.
Keep that in mind while deciding who to support.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 4 2024 19:30 utc | 79
Why not Aaron Bushnell? Most perfect protest vote imaginable.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 4 2024 19:14 utc | 74
I wrote that "I'd be tempted", not that I would or could actually vote because I'm Australian.
Posted by: Liolia Paluzas | Nov 4 2024 19:37 utc | 80
. the big show is about to start as Ed Sullivan was fond of saying !
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 18:09 utc | 5
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Those desirous of another colorful preview from the ever-colorful (if wrong-wrong-wrong on Israel/Gaza) James Howard Kunstler should get a few chuckles and screams (a la Edvard Munch) from Kunstler's Monday bulletin and national-heart-rate monitor:
Apologies for the long URL.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 4 2024 19:37 utc | 81
What happens to you if you go to a trump or harris rally with a 'save Gaza placard' ?
So those to partys arent democratic and dont support free speech.
So the only democracy in america now is street protest against the wars / conficts.
America has been here before, remember the anti Veitnam protests ?
Umma
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 19:41 utc | 82
IMO they’ll both generate the same tears but what about the laughs? While I wouldn’t vote for either, I prefer Kamala for sake of comedy material for standup routines and sketches. Kamala is “change” you can groan and giggle over.
Trump as POTUS — we already heard the jokes and Trump impressions for 8 years already.
Kamala as POTUS? It will generate new material and inspire some wimmin to take the stage on comedy open mic night. Let’s see some new comics!
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 4 2024 19:49 utc | 83
It's another ridiculous choice between evils, of course...the same old puppet show.
Perhaps Trump deserves a win because of the fraud in 2020, but it really does not matter because if he proved anything with his term in office, he proved that pResidents are fairly impotent when it comes to making changes in how the government operates.
The support for the genocidal tactics used by Israel against the Palestinians is absolutely barf-inducing, and says a lot about what our government actually desires above all else...hegemony and empire, no matter the cost. The American people are not even a consideration...they are gullible as hell and easily fooled, because they were brainwashed by government education and corporate media, and they actually believe in it like some kind of religion...at least the average actual voter does.
Ukraine is a strong example of what Western power is all about. They never had a chance against Russia without direct military involvement by the Western nations. It seems that the plan was to inject billions in aid to satisfy the military industrial complex greed and corruption, and to keep the Ukrainian forces in the mouth of the Russian meatgrinder. So many men have died that it can be called something akin to genocide, if not actual genocide.
Russia will take what it wants, and rump Ukraine will become a haven for Israelis after the land their god gave them becomes uninhabitable. That's an off-the-cuff prediction, but whatever comes to pass won't have much to do with which ass is sitting in the Oval Office.
I also have a strong sense that nukes are in our future, and it won't turn out well for the West. Trump will not make a difference...hypersonic nukes will take out the leadership in a matter of minutes, and a counter attack will not even leave the silos.
But, I've been predicting the end of the world for decades, so why worry?
Nice bar. I haven't had a drink in ten years.
Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 4 2024 19:50 utc | 84
@ Posted by: c1ue | Nov 4 2024 18:38 utc | 65
A few things.
Reps at 51 in Senate is due to Manchin not running, the former Rep Gov is up 30% points.
Testor in Montana is only state wide elected Dem, and is down 6% points.
However, Mich McConnell is retiring in Jan, and if Trump wins, Vance needs to be replaced. So Ohio Senate seat is very important, but likely whoever loses will turn around and have the organization for the special election. (not certain if appointment of special election)
But looks like AZ, NV, NC, and GA are falling to Trump, meaning he has enough electoral votes to not have to take MI, WI, and PA. But if he takes PA also, that provides enough excess electoral votes barring any challenges.
The Reps also have several hundred on going legal actions over voter fraud throughout the many states. Win or lose, they won't stop them.
The US Supreme Court has already ruled on several, and expect more quick rulings between now and 3 January.
It seems unlikely the Reps will lose the House, win or lose the president race. Most of those RINO's will still vote the party ticket even if they don't vote for Trump.
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 4 2024 20:00 utc | 85
Liolia Paluzas | Nov 4 2024 18:04 utc | 53--
Thanks for the reply and your notion. Unfortunately, Julian doesn't meet US Constitutional requirements.
malenkov | Nov 4 2024 19:14 utc | 74--
Another good choice except that he's dead.
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The hardest task anyone attempting a soft landing for the dying Outlaw US Empire would be the need to convince the Parasites that their host is about to die and take them with it unless they admit to that reality and allow their course to be altered--to remove themselves from the path to reform. And the situation in 2028 will be worse.
S'funny i most have hered over a thousand yanks interviewed about this election.
All the trump voters say the same mono thought sound bite's. Word for word, same tone off voice, programed into them, parrot fashion, dead from the neck up.
Brain washed, brain dead. Sheep following the flock for miss-guided safety.
Group psycosis. None of them willing to predict the nuts and bolts reality of the near future. Totaly blind.
What i ask dose 'make america great again' even meen'
His speel is all to ambiguous, deeply suspeciously so.
Fear the worse.
Were all Gazans now.
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 4 2024 20:09 utc | 87
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 4 2024 16:48 utc | 10
Surely that's world "disorder".
Posted by: KingCobra | Nov 4 2024 20:10 utc | 88
When Delaware Senator John Williams went after Bobby Baker and Lyndon Johnson, threatening their political careers, was he doing that at the bidding of the Duponts?
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 20:18 utc | 89
Poor Yuval Harari, guru of the WEF! First the SMO and now possibly Trump returning, a man he considers so obnoxious for the (post) human evolution.. In Febr. 2022 he called the SMO a big step back towards prmitive times, it would delay the big leap, the transitioning to super man in the coming decades.
Posted by: Teraspol | Nov 4 2024 20:20 utc | 90
Folks speak of RINO's, but there are plenty of DINO's out there too.
Democrats in Name Only....dems who are sick of the far left, neo fascist drift of formerly democratic party.
Dems now stand for men in girls locker-rooms, infanticide, censorship, gun seizures, lawfare, open borders, green energy fakery, free trade, and endless foreign wars in countries most Americans could not locate on a map if you wagered them. So the DINO faction votes for conservatives now.
When Liz "A Bomb" Cheney and her War Criminal Dad endorse Kamyhoe, then you know where the deep state resides now.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 20:21 utc | 91
Kamala Harris will be the first president in history with experience in all three branches of government—judicial, legislative, and executive.
But Trump was a game show host.
Posted by: hightrekker | Nov 4 2024 20:21 utc | 92
It's the movement not the man.
Any revolutionary movement knows that is the case. Look at Hezbollah and Hamas. They keep killing the leaders and they keep launching missiles.
When are the Marxist academics going to see that Marxism has less and less relevancy in the 21st century with its labor value dogma. The enemy is the Transhumanism with its AI, Biocides (eg vaccines, net zero crap, orchestrated wars aand genocides, etc).
It's those that Bill Gates and George Soros fund and support that are the issue.
Talking about the "unqualified" in an election like this is best described as "silly".
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 4 2024 20:22 utc | 93
hightrekker 92 - Kamyhoe was never a judge, but surely she slept with one...............does that count?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 20:24 utc | 94
Even in states where Jill Stein is not on the ballot (including, disgracefully, New York) voters can still give her a write-in vote by writing in her name.
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 4 2024 20:35 utc | 95
Kamyhoe was never a judge
So a attorney general is not a judge?
Posted by: hightrekker | Nov 4 2024 20:35 utc | 96
If space is provided on the ballot for a write-in candidate,
writing "Bernie Sanders" even if he isn't running will get counted
and if in sufficient numbers will hopefully encourage young people to run as progressive antiwar candidates,
which is probably the best outcome one can hope for from this whole charade.
NOT voting merely plays into the existing order's hands,
as they'd rather we not participate in government a la middle eastern democracies,
and that would be a step closer to removing any say we have in our own government
and ending democracy as we know it here.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Nov 4 2024 20:35 utc | 97
Both Trump and Harris are despicable creatures party to genocide.
In 2016 Trump was pretty creative and fresh. That is gone. He is dull as a spoon now. Repeats every point he makes twice. He promoted the gene therapy injections and still does. If he was in probably Ukraine would not have happened. Maybe he will stand up to nutty. I strongly doubt that. Over and over he has told us he believes in cultivating "respect" through acts of violence.
Harris is a horrible NWO selection. She will be even more disastrous than Biden. At least she smiles often.
Do not vote for either of these genocidal creatures. They are both depraved and morally bankrupt. Vote for Stein. If she gets 5% we have established a third party and perhaps change can occur. Either Trump or Harris will literally be a catastrophe.
Posted by: blankcheck | Nov 4 2024 20:39 utc | 98
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 4 2024 20:24 utc | 94
Only 7 documented times appearing in a court room, but very probable behind the scenes "consultations".
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 4 2024 20:42 utc | 99
It's not this one wins then Obama changes everything and then Trump comes in and changes nothing like that. By the way this has been a consistent foreign policy arguably since 19 certainly since 1991 and arguably since 1945.
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In game theory, when one side always loses, they eventually stop playing the game. It is necessary to dangle the "hope" of victory rather than steamrolling people every time.
Regardless, there is no mechanism for the hoi polloi to have any meaningful influence on their government. Any government. Even if the Jordanians wanted to revolt, they don't have guns.
J6 and the Trucker convoy to Ottawa show us what happens when North Americans exercise their "right" of assembly. Btw, all of those "rights" are supposedly protected by the government from the government. LOL
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 4 2024 20:44 utc | 100
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Jeffrey St Clair is probably the best on this circus:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/11/01/strange-days/
"I have no feel for how this strange election will turn out. I sense that most people want both leading candidates to lose and lose badly, but they think and fear Trump will win. Of course, that may be their fatalism taking over, and who could blame them? The polls seem unnaturally close–to the extent you can poll cellphones. People keep telling me you can’t, but they sure as hell seem to have no trouble bombarding me with their non-stop texting. And I’m hit with a dozen more every time I text “STOP” back. So I’ve stopped looking at texts, and if you send one, don’t expect a reply until after the election is settled sometime in January."
Posted by: motorslug | Nov 4 2024 16:28 utc | 1