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November 8, 2024
‘Pogrom’ Against Hooligans Accusations Follow A Zionist Propaganda Scheme

There are two recurring schemes in pro-Zionist propaganda:

  • In any conflict the Zionists (or Jews) are always the victims.
  • Conflicts with Zionists always occur out of nowhere, i.e without any provocations and outside of any context. They are thus pure anti-semitism.

On October 7 2023, following provocations of radical Zionists at the Al Aqsa mosque, Hamas soldiers and random Gazans broke from their open air prison and attempted to take Israeli hostages. These were to be exchanged for Arab prisoners in Israeli hands. During the operation the Israeli military ordered its forces to follow the Hannibal directive which says that any potential Israeli hostage shall be killed before it is taken to Gaza.

Various reports have since shown that the majority of those killed on that day were Arabs from Gaza. The majority of Israeli casualties of that day were caused by the Israeli military, primarily by its helicopter forces which fired Hellfire missiles and machine cannons against random cars fleeing the scene.

But the Zionist friendly media reported the Hamas excursion as unprovoked. It seemed to have happened without any context. But there is a context of more then 70 years of expulsion and killing of Arabs up to today.

It also depicted the killed Israeli as the victims killed by the Arab attackers even as Israel's own military admitted that it had killed a large share of them.

A recent incident in Amsterdam follows a similar scheme.

Israel decries ‘pogrom’ in Amsterdam as soccer fans come under attack by riotersTimes of Israel, Nov 8 2024
All Israelis accounted hours after 10 injured, many besieged in hotels as gangs of hooligans — apparently Muslims and Arabs — ambush, beat Israelis after game

The headline suggests that:

  • The Zionist 'soccer fans' were the sole victims.
  • There was no context, i.e. the attack was presumably unprovoked.

Both points are, of course, wrong.

Some context, not mention in recent reports, can be found in a three days old Jerusalem Post report:

Just in case: Mossad agents to join Maccabi Tel Aviv FC trip to AmsterdamJPost, Nov 5 2024

After a disappointing 1-0 league loss to Ironi Kiryat Shmona, Maccabi Tel Aviv is refocusing on European competition, set to face Ajax in Amsterdam on Thursday night.

As with all Israeli teams playing in Europe over the past year, security concerns are paramount. On Tuesday, Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf reported that, in addition to Maccabi’s regular security personnel, Mossad agents will join the team in Amsterdam to provide maximum protection.

Maccabi fans are long known for their racist behavior:

In 2014, a group [of Maccabi] fans reportedly shouted racist slurs in the direction of Mahran Radi, an Arab-Israeli who was then playing for the club. Graffiti was also sprayed around Tel Aviv.

It allegedly said "we don't want Arabs at Maccabi!" and "Radi is dead".

In June, Israel’s “Kicking Out Racism” initiative tried to quantify the amount of racist language used by the fans of various football clubs. They found that Maccabi was second only to Beitar Jerusalem in terms of the quantities witnessed by researchers.

It is alleged those same sentiments were on display in Amsterdam this week, with fans chanting racist slogans, as well as refusing to mark a minute’s silence for the victims of the flooding in Spain.

Minor riots with Maccabi fans actually took place on two nights. On the night of the 6th to 7th November, a day before a game against Ajax Amsterdam, hooligan soccer fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv, presumably under Mossad 'protection', teared down Palestinian flags from private Dutch dwellings (video) and attacked Dutch taxi drivers of Arab descent:

Taxi Driver @DutchTaxiDriver – 2:55 UTC · Nov 7, 2024

Schandalig en onacceptabel: een Amsterdamse taxichauffeur aangevallen en mishandeld door Maccabi hooligans. Dit geweld moet stoppen. Steun voor onze chauffeurs die onze stad draaiende houden, ook in moeilijke tijden. #StopGeweld #Amsterdam #RespectVoorChauffeurs #Ajax

Outrageous and unacceptable: an Amsterdam taxi driver attacked and abused by Maccabi hooligans. This violence must stop. Support our drivers who keep our city running, even in difficult times. #StopGeweld #Amsterdam #RespectVoorChauffeurs #Ajax
Video

As The British Mail Online reported yesterday:

Israeli football hooligans tore down Palestine flags as they marched through Amsterdam in a Wednesday night of chaos ahead of Maccabi Tel Aviv's visit to Ajax.

Videos show dozens of hooded figures dressed fully in black cheering and chanting 'f*** you Palestine' and 'ole' as one climbed halfway up the front of a building and removed a flag on the Rokin, a major street.

Footage also shows one thug thumping a taxi with crowbar before the driver takes off, while there have been reported clashes between the visiting hooligans and cabbies.

Meanwhile, clips shared by a prominent pro-hooligan page depict bust-ups purported to be between Maccabi fans and a group of Moroccan Ajax supporters.

On the evening of November 7 Maccabi Tel Aviv lost its game against Ajax Amsterdam. Ajax won 5 to 0.

Before the game a minute of silence was asked for victims of flooding in Spain. The Mossad directed Maccabi hooligans ignored it.

After the game more scuffles and riots reportedly happened. But this time the Zionist hooligans were apparently in a minority against a group of pro-Palestinian Ajax fans and had to flee to their hotels.

Today the justified action against the outrageous, Mossad protected, behavior of Maccabi hooligans is called a progrom.

A convenient result for the Mossad people who have planned and incited this provocation.

Comments

91 nomajesty – quite correct…….the majority of IDF casualties on Oct 7th were from combat operations of Hamas soldiers, there was an especially high toll of IDF female soldiers assigned to FOP’s near the Gaza border regions.
Incredibly, many of these female soldiers were unarmed……how could the IDF post soldiers near the line of contact without personal firearms? Its mind boggling.
Most civilian Israeli casualties on the other hand were inflicted by IDF Apache and Merkava tank fire. The Rave Festival near the Gaza border, full of thousands of young adults enjoying some music and fun, was repeatedly strafed and rocketed by IDF Apache gunships (this fact has been admitted by the pilots involved, who have repeatedly testified that they cut down anyone seen running near the festival, and admitted to frequent trips to rearm their helos). IDF tank fire specifically targeted housing in the nearby kibbutzi, regardless of the presence of Israeli civilians sheltering in safe rooms.
Overall, most of casualties on October 7th were the results of IDF actions.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 22:09 utc | 101

In addition IDF aircraft destroyed many vehicles seen heading back into Gaza late on October 7th, many of these vehicles contained Hamas soldiers and civilian and military hostages……not too bright !!!!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 22:12 utc | 102

It’s a massive psy-op on a very cleverly manipulated nation in Europe,the most anglo-saxon minded,living in a very large bubble,meant to stir up anti-arab and anti-muslim sentiment among its nationals.King Willem-Alexander offered apologies to president Israel Herzog . I think he should offer apologies as well to the King of Spain,for the disturbance of the one minute silence for Valencia flood victims by the maccabi fanatics.
And now France is severely humiliated by Israel on a visit of the new foreign minister to Jerusalem when israeli manu military arrested two french gendarme from the consulat service.It’s on videos.

Posted by: willie | Nov 8 2024 22:31 utc | 103

It’s a massive psy-op on a very cleverly manipulated nation in Europe,the most anglo-saxon minded,living in a very large bubble,meant to stir up anti-arab and anti-muslim sentiment among its nationals.King Willem-Alexander offered apologies to president Israel Herzog . I think he should offer apologies as well to the King of Spain,for the disturbance of the one minute silence for Valencia flood victims by the maccabi fanatics.
And now France is severely humiliated by Israel on a visit of the new foreign minister to Jerusalem when israeli manu military arrested two french gendarme from the consulat service.It’s on videos.

Posted by: willie | Nov 8 2024 22:31 utc | 104

https://youtu.be/OnUDovJjHMc
où on voit aussi Chirac en 1996 et Macron en 2020 dans un situation identique.

Posted by: willie | Nov 8 2024 22:38 utc | 105

This video is more explicit.
https://youtu.be/bms0dPpnR50

Posted by: willie | Nov 8 2024 22:41 utc | 106

this really peeves me off b…your monolog equates zionists with jews…..Zionism is an ideology based on the jewish Talmud…jews however has multiple meanings including those who are totally against the talmud and zionism…if you want to be truthful in your monolog do not lump the two together because that is just not accurate…
Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 21:31 utc | 94
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More than 90% of the US House of Congress and the Senate have declared that Zionism and Judaism are the same. They, and many of the Universities and most of the MSM, now equate anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism. So, go somewhere else and peeve off on yourself, hypocrite!

Posted by: Ed | Nov 8 2024 22:44 utc | 107

@106 willie
france humiliated itself by even visiting the territory, the rest is show, apparently one they (both) like to repeat. Maybe it distracts from addressing the genocide ?

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 8 2024 22:53 utc | 108

Hey Ed…:)
I`m sorry that you believe that Congress and the Senate,MSM,and Universities are truthful….maybe someday you will realise that that is not the case…

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 22:58 utc | 109

Where is Antony Blinken?
(Meant as a rhetorical question kind of like “where are the F-16s in the Ukraine thread.)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 8 2024 23:00 utc | 110

Now I understand where those sentiments come from and why.
@ LoveDonbass | Nov 8 2024 17:36 utc | 41

It’s good to hear someone I respect admit to previous ignorance, because that’s how I feel about myself: I can’t believe the crap I used to believe — the cognitive fois gras stuffed into my little ears about “America the Beautiful.” Now that I’m on the other side of that epistemic divide, I’m astonished and frustrated at the continuing obliviousness of so many former compatriots. How can they be so wooden-headed as to simply turn away, to shut out the contradictions of hateful living?
On the other hand, quite rarely I see someone really getting a clue, someone I previously thought of as oblivious. In order to do that, you need to summon the courage to admit how mistaken and misled you’ve been. You need to point the finger at your erstwhile sponsors, your publishing associates, and shout j’accuse! That’s what Ta-Nehisi Coates just did in his first human book, The Message.
Sometimes you can hear it coming through loud and clear. The miracle of human dignity which makes life worth fighting for.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 8 2024 23:05 utc | 111

Absolutely brilliant b,
Like I say nothing gets passed you b.
The truth of what happened in Amsterdam
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=clHlvgOPrWY&pp=ygUKT3dlbiBqb25lcw%3D%3D
Describes the facts beautifully.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 23:05 utc | 112

Jerusalem post text re-written:
“…Mossad agents will join the team in Amsterdam to provide maximum provocation.”
Daily mail text re-written:
“Israeli football brown-shirts, black-shirts and other hooligans….”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 8 2024 23:15 utc | 113

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 22:58 utc | 110
He does not understand that many if not most traditional Jews are anti-zionist.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 114

Yo! Hasbarats – trying to divert attention again?
Lol. Of course the compliant mass media will clutch its pearls.
That is no victory.
Getting used to the sirens and taking cover against cheap fireworks? The expensive ones will be even more ooh and ahh!
From The Rivers To The Seas – Palestine and the Levant will be FREE.
Anywa folks, the red letter day is nearly upon the biblical fantasy followers – mostly in USA where it was installed by the Holy Roman Empire imperialists colonists through inventions of various Christian Fundamentilst sects, as part of the delusional eschatological fantasy of ‘their bothering god’.
They even bred the red heffers there (Texas I think) specially, to send to the illegal apartheid entity to hurry along the end of the world.
I believe the majority of mental retards who believe such zionist apocalyptic shit are mostly Christian’s. Many more of them than the ethno judaeo Anglo european shapeshifters – the ziofascist settler colonialists with their khazar converted supremacist Judaism.
The delusional Christian’s still support the ziofascists shapeshifters in taking what they want from the natives of the Levant! A couple of hundred years after their Christian settler ancestors of North America did the same to the Natives of that continent.
Even the god of Fuckwittery must be flummoxed by those morons.
The football hooligans getting themselves into trouble without overwhelming weapons they are used to, is obviously being generated to cover up the increasing disillusionment of the majority of judaeophile Zionist collective westerners and even the real AS fascist nationalist xenophobic supremacists, who are stepping back from unquestioning support of the Illegal Entity and its mythical mighty miltary nation they so admire.
The agitation is aimed at getting their pocket politicians (paid and with personal minders) to dance and jump in unison. They like to dance like old tribal peoples. So they will send even more money, weapons and violence to perpetuate the crime against humanity on the real Semitic peoples of the invaded lands.
It allows DJT to be nudged into declaring support for the illegal apartheid entity with a ‘whatabout the beaten up Ziofascists on tour’ instead of the elephant rampaging in the room stomping on women and children turning them to pulp with an unheard of level of high explosive munitions supplied and directed by the Anglo European imperialists.
It is not a good look. Trump will burn the bridges he needs, before even getting to them, if he complies.
I expect the Global south billions many of whom have smart phones and are devout Christian’s also, to impose massive BDS against the ziofascist colonialists. The entity’s flags and businesses and bases will become ‘non grata’. They will not be allowed to stomp around like mad elephants wherever they want to go.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115

Some of the social media sites on you tube run by Israelis are nothing but shocking. Calling 10 supporters injured a progrom against the jews.
These people are sick in the head. Not only are they inciting even more violence. With their lies, they are spreading even more anti semitism world wide and making it even more unsafe for Jews where they live.
Propaganda to make themselves the victim. They are morally rotton to the core these people and not one of them, will be banned from youtube for spreading dis information. Not one.
That crime is only for people who spread the truth.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 23:21 utc | 116

He does not understand that many if not most traditional Jews are anti-zionist.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115
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Not in Israel; almost every jew is a ZioNazi now.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 8 2024 23:24 utc | 117

They may have to pull an MH17 and blame it on Hezbollah or someone opposed to the entity.
That will really get the Dutch on their side. It seemed to do the trick with Ukraine!

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 8 2024 23:32 utc | 118

@Aleph_Null @Nov 8 2024 23:05 utc #112
I have family members I can’t talk to about what is going on in Gaza, but I have sympathy for them because I used to be on the other side of the issue. I had a paid subscription to the jerusalem post for a while, even bought one of Caroline Glick’s books (the Jewish Solution, advocating a one state solution).
As a longtime newsjunkie with some success at critical media consumption, I have really dug into Telegram with the SMO and have been curating people worth following on twitter/X for a while (twitter/X follows expanded as I added more independent international journalists covering the SMO). So when Oct 7 rolled around I had a lot of alternative/counternarrative news sources and they showed me things you just don’t get from the US media. Then I got clued into the Tantura documentary and watched that and at that point flipped completely. I have no idea how it is in other parts of the world, but the pro-Israel news bias in the US is nearly complete.
In a way this echoes what is going on WRT politics in the US: breaking out of a seamless culture of lies is not something you can expect of the average person.
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Nov 8 2024 23:34 utc | 119

https://youtu.be/ySHIOYyJ95A
This is live footage by a young dutch guy reporting the after the match build up.At one point the hooligans tear out iron poles from the street and put on masks,then charge.Scripted.

Posted by: willie | Nov 8 2024 23:37 utc | 120

This is exactly where AI and the Algorithms come to the fore. Social media and the comments underneath the propaganda videos will explode. 80% of which won’t even be real human beings.
Algorithms to herd the sheep to the videos. AI bots spreading bullshit in the comments. Designed to hook and catch gullible fish.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 23:38 utc | 121

Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115
I don`t know but you may certainly be correct…:)

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 23:39 utc | 122

Ed…
That`s a moot point…it`s a worldwide thing….

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 23:43 utc | 123

Evening peace seekers
The Rage i feel about the lies from Amsterdam is better said in this song
https://youtu.be/zUzd9KyIDrM?si=tKYN6quHftWtkHVq

Posted by: BoardinDundee | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc | 124

He does not understand that many if not most traditional Jews are anti-zionist.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115
False
American Jewish Committee – What you Need to Know about Zionists
https://www.ajc.org/news/anti-zionist-jews
Anti-Zionist Jews do not represent the vast majority of the American Jewish community
Eight out of 10 American Jews say caring about Israel is an essential or important part of what being Jewish means to them.
More than 80% of American Jews support Israel’s military operation to recover Israeli hostages and remove Hamas from power.
In many progressive spaces, the only Jews allowed to participate are anti-Zionists, the small fraction of Jews who actively oppose the continued existence and safety of Israel.
Jewish Voice for Peace is an anti-Israel and anti-Zionist organization that does not represent the vast majority of American Jews
JVP has been closely linked to Students for Justice in Palestine and other organizations that support the boycott, divestment and sanctioning (BDS) of Israel
Even progressive Jews who are highly critical of Israel often find JVP to be objectionable
Zionism is an essential part of Jewish identity
Zionism is the belief that Jews have the right to self-determination and a Jewish state in its ancestral home.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc | 125

He does not understand that many, if not most, traditional Jews are anti-zionist.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115
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By the way, what a perfect moniker you carry there.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 0:03 utc | 126

Just to add if there is those who are unaware
Israel has close to 200 deployable bombs/Warheads that are able to strike every european capital “as pay back for centurys of pain ” in the Dolphin Submarines that Germany supplied as “reparations from ww2 ” they have refitted to have vertical launch tubes etc. We are past the hannibal doctrine we have entered the the end days
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/19/if-israel-is-blocked-from-victory-a-day-of-nuclear-war/
The UN will cease to exist a few years from now and then like after the league of nations etc in 1929 Fascism will rise its ugly face again

Posted by: BoardinDundee | Nov 9 2024 0:04 utc | 127

@117
10 people hurt at a football (soccer to USA) riot! That is an outlier, low total for any match in Europe/UK!
That the pro Israelis tore down an opposing banner. lucky there were not dozens of KIA!
I believe nothing put out by the media in USA!
The massive psychosis-damage in USA done by the MSM campaign against Trump on the poor dupes who believed all the malicious slanders is untold!

Posted by: paddy | Nov 9 2024 0:07 utc | 128

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc |
you missed the part “traditional” jews…”Zionism is a part of jewish identity” it`s most certainly right but it still comes back to the point….who are jews..?

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 9 2024 0:18 utc | 130

‘The news out of Amsterdam last night is horrifying. This is a dark moment for our world – and one we have seen before. My heart goes out to the victims, and the entire Jewish community today. Canada condemns this disgusting antisemitism.’ – PM Justin Trudeau
“Canada’s prime minister has stretched the meaning of antisemitism to include not letting fascist soccer hooligans accompanied by Mossad agents assault you and destroy your property while chanting genocidal slogans without fightback.”
https://x.com/DavideMastracci/status/1854897456921608587
Rich for a prime minister of a country that makes millions manufacturing components for each and every USraeli F-35 dropping bombs and death on the heads of defenceless Palestinian civilians.
justin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2024 0:20 utc | 131

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc |
you missed the part “traditional” jews…”Zionism is a part of jewish identity” it`s most certainly right but it still comes back to the point….who are jews..?

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 9 2024 0:20 utc | 132

Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 23:20 utc | 115
I don`t know but you may certainly be correct…:)
Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 23:39 utc | 123
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Ed…
That`s a moot point…it`s a worldwide thing….
Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 23:43 utc | 124
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What is moot, and what is a worldwide “phenomenon”? Could you both add some meat to your comments?
I know that there are a lot of good Jews outside of occupied Palestine who are not zio-fascist or neo-Nazies. There are many, many fine Jews in the CPUSA. Still, the majority of Jews in Israel are fucking fascists, and so are many neo-cons who wormed their way into positions of power in both political parties in the US and into positions of power in Europe.
And, as an aside, if there are so many non-Zionist Jews around the world, why don’t they stop the genocide and apartheid occupation in Palestine? If they aren’t fighting for the rights of the Palestinian people, then they are supporting Zionism and genocide. I think that many non-Zionist Jews are just indifferent to the plight of the Palestinian people.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 0:39 utc | 133

In a way this echoes what is going on WRT politics in the US: breaking out of a seamless culture of lies is not something you can expect of the average person.
@ ockham | Nov 8 2024 23:34 utc | 120

Here in California, the fruit grows heavy on the vine, and my fellow citizens just defeated Proposition 6, to ban involuntary servitude (aka slavery) in our prisons. Nobody even bothered to file an official argument against it, but it went down 45 to 55. Not even close, because that’s how dedicated we are to despising and punishing our fellow humans. Here in California.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 9 2024 0:47 utc | 134

Posted by: Naive | Nov 9 2024 0:17 utc | 130
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So, you want to get nasty. OK, now give us folks here at MoA the number of Jews in all the Jewish factions in your list of Jewish sects that you Wikipediaed to us.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 0:56 utc | 135

And, as an aside, if there are so many non-Zionist Jews around the world, why don’t they stop the genocide and apartheid occupation in Palestine? If they aren’t fighting for the rights of the Palestinian people, then they are supporting Zionism and genocide. I think that many non-Zionist Jews are just indifferent to the plight of the Palestinian people.
Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 0:39 utc | 134
Ed, fyi
and see the good thread at the link:
https://x.com/IndJewishVoices/status/1853832325093867578
Independent Jewish Voices @IndJewishVoices
30 Jewish organizations issue statement in support of UN Human Rights Rapporteur Albanese, who has been under relentless attack from politically motivated organizations waging toxic campaigns to silence her and undermine her human rights mandate. 🧵1/10
@FranceskAlbs @mehdirhasan

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2024 0:59 utc | 136

From reddit, of all places:
https://old.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1gmti4g/to_get_away_with_framing_violence_committed_by/?ref=share&ref_source=link
It’s the other way around

Posted by: Winston | Nov 9 2024 1:00 utc | 137

A friend writes:
“But on a serious note now, as to why Zionists and Westoids are having a hard time understanding what happened in #Amsterdam.
This fight is what happens when you attack a group of people who still have group solidarity, whether that be the Arab-descent Dutchmen or the taxi drivers as a professional group as happened in this case. Or any other group, for that matter, which still has a lively “asabiyya” as famous 14th-century historian Ibn Khaldun called it.
Asabiyya, often translated as tribal solidarity, is the deeply rooted internal rootedness and cooperation that ensures the stability and safety of a tribe, group, nation or ethnos.
The reason why Western media is so flabbergasted with the ferocity of the Amsterdam streets’ response to Tel Aviv hooligans, is because the liberal mindset cannot comprehend a basic concept such as “solidarity”. Let alone the fact that people are willing to fight back as a group if one of them has been attacked.
It’s one of the key weaknesses of the Western world, and has been for decades: lack of solidarity, lack of self-awareness, rampant individualism and fundamental egoism.”

Posted by: JAB | Nov 9 2024 1:05 utc | 138

‘Classic Propaganda & Disinformation by Omission Followed by Selective Condemnation’
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1854839444928422191
“Mainstream media is deliberately NOT showing us the other side of the Amsterdam clashes; Israeli hooligans attacking local residents, chanting genocidal slogans and vandalising Palestinian flags…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2024 1:10 utc | 139

The Jerusalem Post, the day prior to the Maccabi fans’ trip to Amsterdam, featured a headline that read, “Just in case: Mossad agents to join Maccabi Tel Aviv FC trip to Amsterdam.”
That seems to me to be a provocation directed at the pro-Palestinian supporters in Amsterdam. TO REVEAL THEM! It was intentional. A public relations tactic to, once again, promote the narrative of Israelis as the “victims” across western media.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 9 2024 1:17 utc | 140

1 Samuel 15:3-23 New International Version
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
The Amalekites, eternal enemies of the Jewish people, are said to be the embodiment of pure evil. Just as the Nazis were the 20th century’s version of Amalek, Hamas has proven that they are the Amalek of today….
blot out the memory of those monsters? Perhaps it has to do with self-care. Must we relive the hideous evidence over and over again in order to honor the lives of the slaughtered innocents? Personally, I have tried to avoid some of the most horrific videos and accounts. Going down that rabbit hole not only leads to despair, it is giving in to what Hamas wants us to do. They, like ISIS before them, make no attempt to hide their crimes. To the contrary, they seek to maximize their exposure. The more gruesome, the better. Why? They want us to be distracted, scared, and distraught. They would like nothing more than to have us lie awake at night, immobilized with rage and fear.
https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/364360/hamas-todays-amalek/
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Zionism,
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 1:22 utc | 141

It’s one of the key weaknesses of the Western world, and has been for decades: lack of solidarity, lack of self-awareness, rampant individualism and fundamental egoism.”
Posted by: JAB | Nov 9 2024 1:05 utc | 139
Western solidarity is very much there.
You see it when coalitions of the willing are assembled to destroy some non western country.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2024 1:22 utc | 142

The Jerusalem Post, the day prior to the Maccabi fans’ trip to Amsterdam, featured a headline that read, “Just in case: Mossad agents to join Maccabi Tel Aviv FC trip to Amsterdam.”
That seems to me to be a provocation directed at the pro-Palestinian supporters in Amsterdam. TO REVEAL THEM! It was intentional. A public relations tactic to, once again, promote the narrative of Israelis as the “victims” across western media.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 9 2024 1:17 utc | 141
I agree with that. after all, what would likely bring out local anti-zionists to the streets than knowing that Mossad will be in the crowd!

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Nov 9 2024 1:24 utc | 143

Trump has a phone call with Bibi’s West Bank kapo. I’m supposed to think this is meaningful?
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 8 2024 21:20 utc | 92
Sharing information.
That might make me think that he might be going for a forced truce and won’t let bibi patrol (use the kapo as you mentioned, but IMHO he won’t last in gaza)
If it brings nothing to your analysis, sorry, others might find it interesting TO KNOW
Sorry not to bow to your disdain, it was on topic, recent (minutes) and I for one see it as a sign of potencial hope at last for the nd of the siege og gaza and the hunger… baby steps I know

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 9 2024 1:24 utc | 144

So a bunch of jews stage a demonstration at al aqsa mosque (clutch pearls) where no one was killed, and so the gazans murdered or kidnapped a couple thousand jews to teach them a lesson. That’s what you’re going with, Berhnard?
Posted by: Kimo Loka | Nov 8 2024 17:44 utc | 44
It is for people like you that Martin Luther King wrote: “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” The fact that you “think” the history of Palestinian tragedy begins in 2022 is, I think, deliberate because no one can be so stupidly ignorant not to have read what was going on since the inception of Israhell.

Posted by: Jaime | Nov 9 2024 1:25 utc | 145

fyi,
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1854839444928422191
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
Mainstream media is deliberately NOT showing us the other side of the Amsterdam clashes; Israeli hooligans attacking local residents, chanting genocidal slogans & vandalising Palestinian flags.
Classic propaganda & disinformation by omission, followed by selective condemnations.
2\ As always, the story for mainstream media begins as soon as Israelis are attacked, never when they attack. They’re always THE victim & only victim. Innocents only persecuted b/c of their faith of ethnicity is the classic narrative
3\ Violence against civilians is never justified, no matter by who against whom.
But for mainstream media & Western politicians, they have broken moral compass that never point any fingers of blame when Israelis are violent. They only wake up when it’s the other way around
4\ BBC initially labelled the Amsterdam clashes as “clashes” before deleting that word completely from the article & conforming to the narrative of an unprovoked attack.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2024 1:40 utc | 146

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2024 1:22 utc | 143
No, that’s the ruling class working to serve their interests.
Solidarity is for the working class.

Posted by: JAB | Nov 9 2024 1:40 utc | 147

Interesting article on how German’s support of Israel is a matter of empathy 😀
Fun to read and
se non è vero, è ben trovato
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/11/8/why-is-germany-supporting-israels-genocide-in-gaza

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 9 2024 1:42 utc | 148

Dutch PM ‘Ashamed’ By Amsterdam Attacks on Israeli Soccer Fans
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/amsterdam-clashes-football-israeli-1.737787
“Politician Geert Wilders, head of the largest party in the Dutch government, said he was ‘ashamed that this can happen in the Netherlands’. In a vitriolic post on the social media platform X, he blamed ‘Criminal muslims’ and said they should be deported.”
White supremacist wackjob Wilders was hosted in Toronto several years ago by the Kahanist JDL Canada’s Meir Weinstein.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2024 1:43 utc | 149

gazans murdered or kidnapped a couple thousand jews to teach them a lesson. That’s what you’re going with, Berhnard?
Posted by: Kimo Loka | Nov 8 2024 17:44 utc | 44
I’m not aware of the Gazans murdering or kidnapping a couple thousand Jews.
Please tell me more?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2024 1:44 utc | 150

Dutch PM ‘Ashamed’
corrected url from #150 above
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/amsterdam-clashes-football-israeli-1.7377872

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2024 1:50 utc | 151

Posted by: HERMIUS | Nov 9 2024 1:17 utc | 141
I agree with that. after all, what would likely bring out local anti-zionists to the streets than knowing that Mossad will be in the crowd!
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Nov 9 2024 1:24 utc | 144
Well the compliant media did their part. israelis were painted as victims .

Posted by: Fyador | Nov 9 2024 1:56 utc | 152

The Amsterdam police commissioner opens the press conference and explains that Maccabi Tel Aviv fans attacked a taxi driver and set the Palestine flag on fire.
Posted by: Menz | Nov 8 2024 19:57 utc | 76
The Dutch always like to tell me what straight talkers they are and how their culture encourages calling a spade a spade.
We’re about to find out how far this stereotype goes but this is a good sign …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2024 1:58 utc | 153

Despite the fucking assholes who tried to twist my comment @108 as an attack on ALL Jews, I never said such a thing. I was responding to Woodenhue @ 94, who was Peeved off at b: See below.
this really peeves me off b…your monolog equates zionists with jews…..Zionism is an ideology based on the jewish Talmud…jews however has multiple meanings including those who are totally against the talmud and zionism…if you want to be truthful in your monolog do not lump the two together because that is just not accurate…
Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 21:31 utc | 94
Now see my comment @ 108: “More than 90% of the US House of Congress and the Senate have declared that Zionism and Judaism are the same. They, and many of the Universities and most of the MSM, now equate anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism. So, go somewhere else and peeve off on yourself, hypocrite!”
My point was that nearly the entire Western establishment has declared criticism of the Zionist genocide, and the occupation of the Palestinian homeland is officially, in their minds, an act of anti-Semitism against all Jews.
So Woodenhue and Naive decided to double-team me.
See their comments @| 110,115, 124, and 130.
Tell me where I said all Jews or most Jews are Zionists outside of the Occupied Palestinian homeland. I am critical of many American Jews for not doing enough, soon enough, to help the 45,000 murdered Palestinian civilians. But that doesn’t mean that I think they are all Zionist. I place a lot of responsibility on non-Zionist Jews only because they had 75 years to right the wrongs committed against Palestinians in their rightful homeland.
I supported Bernie Sanders twice in his campaign for President. Still, I was not impressed with his “Johnny come lately” resistance to even the word “genocide,” and his tepid response was more a matter of re-election issues than a bad conscience.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 2:26 utc | 154

Ask me if I feel sorry for those f*ckers.

Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 9 2024 2:34 utc | 155

Posted by: JAB | Nov 9 2024 1:40 utc | 148
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Thank you for such a wise comment. Many people think working-class solidarity will never happen again, and the ruling class prays that it is so.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 2:35 utc | 156

there are short videos at each of the links
GAZA NOW IN ENGLISH
https://t.me/gazaalanpa/8216
The moment the Israeli terrorist pigs tore up the Palestinian flag in the Dutch capital Amsterdam, which led to an angry reaction from the youth of the Dutch, Arabs, Russians, Chechens and Turks.🇳🇱 🇵🇸
https://t.me/gazaalanpa/8225
Despite the Zionist lobby’s attempt to control the decisions of European countries, the peoples have begun to wake up and reveal the danger of the pig-like terrorist Israeli occupation to the entire region, and what we saw in Amsterdam was the greatest evidence, and here the people of the Netherlands are chanting with one voice for Palestine and Gaza. 🇳🇱🔻🇵🇸
https://t.me/gazaalanpa/8223
In response to the tearing down of the Palestinian flag and its removal from homes in Amsterdam…the free people of the world tear up and burn the flag of the pigs, the terrorist Zionist occupation, in front of the hotel where the terrorist Israeli pigs are hiding in the Netherlands. 🇵🇸 🇳🇱🔻
https://t.me/gazaalanpa/8226
How did the events begin in the Dutch capital, Amsterdam? Before the Israelis entered the stadium, they tore up and removed the Palestinian flags from the homes of the Dutch and attacked them. When they arrived at the stadium, they began chanting, “Kill the Arabs, kill the Muslims.” When they left the stadium, the Arabs, Muslims, and Christians of the Dutch were waiting for them.
Scenes of Israeli pigs before they are disciplined and raised in the streets of Amsterdam 🇵🇸🇳🇱🔻

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2024 2:38 utc | 157

Ask me if I feel sorry for those f*ckers.
Posted by: g wiltek | Nov 9 2024 2:34 utc | 156
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From your lack of clarity, the fuckers that you don’t feel sorry for are the victims of the Zionazis genocide: Am I wrong? I hope so….

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 2:40 utc | 158

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 9 2024 2:38 utc | 158
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Thank you, Michael. A picture is worth a thousand words, but a video is even better.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 2:50 utc | 159

Kimo Loka | Nov 8 2024 19:24 utc | 68…
You know bloody well that the Zionist Jews of Israel have been mass-murdering, imprisoning and torturing Palestinians for over 75 years, while stealing their victims’ land and property.
And that the Zionists recently intensified their genocidal efforts…
Which you are obviously perverted enough to thoroughly enjoy.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 2:53 utc | 160

By now it is blatantly evident that not only Palestine suffers under the imposition of a Zionist Occupation Government, but that the countries of Europe are likewise afflicted.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 2:59 utc | 161

Tandem and Thaqib – Resistance Roundup – Day 399

(excerpt)…The Palestinian Resistance continued its operations against the Israeli occupation forces in the Gaza Strip, destroying two tanks and a troop carrier and shelling its soldiers in more than one area.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Resistance Movement Hamas, said it targeted an Israeli troop carrier with a Tandem shell, near the al-Amin Mosque, east of Jabaliya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip.
The Al-Qassam Brigades said that, in conjunction with the Omar al-Qasim Brigades, they shelled with mortars Israeli forces in the southeast of the Shejaiya neighborhood of Gaza City.
The Al-Qassam Brigades also broadcast images of its fighters targeting a Merkava tank in the vicinity of the Khaznadar area, northwest of Gaza City.
For its part, the Al-Quds Brigades announced that its fighters destroyed a Merkava tank by detonating a high-explosive Thaqib device near Birkat Abu Rashid, in the center of Jabaliya camp.
The group also reported that they fired mortar shells at a position of Israeli soldiers on the supply line in the Netzarim axis in the central Gaza Strip……

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/tandem-and-thaqib-resistance-roundup-day-399/
Comment – (2) videos. First video especially illuminating. “Return to Sender “ Landmine. The Lebanese continue a high pace of actions with plenty of attacks on strategic targets. The ill trained IDF conscripts and weekend warriors are still being sent to die against the Lebanese fortress. Senseless Slaughter by the Likud.
Merkava Tally as of Friday
night local time
256 destroyed (added 2)
693 approx. damaged (unchanged)

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2024 3:11 utc | 162

Barflies,
I think the expression you are searching for is:
Netanyahu’s Willing Executioners

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2024 3:14 utc | 163

Ed | Nov 8 2024 21:59 utc | 98
*** The UN has been taken hostage by the very Western colonists who invented fascism, and now it is worthless for 90% of the people in the world. One nation stands at the apogee of this international catastrophe: destroying a workable world system—something the United States never wanted and ensured that the world never had.***
They’re preparing to eventually replace the UN with the WEF dictatorship.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 3:15 utc | 164

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1731160875308888191?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1731160875308888191%7Ctwgr%5Eb22b90853e616e4e33008e32909a723da3c09686%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dantiwar-newst_i%3D14780920https3A2F2Fnews.antiwar.com
10 minute video confession of a once Fanatical West Bank Settler who now rejects the Zionist Ideology…..
2F3Fp3D147809t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fnews.antiwar.com2F20242F112F072Fgallant-says-theres-nothing-left-for-israeli-troops-to-do-in-gaza2Ft_e%3DGallant20Says20ThereE28099s20E28098Nothing20LeftE2809920for20Israeli20Troops20to20Do20in20Gazat_d%3DGallant20Says20ThereE28099s20E28098Nothing20LeftE2809920for20Israeli20Troops20to20Do20in20Gazat_t%3DGallant20Says20ThereE28099s20E28098Nothing20LeftE2809920for20Israeli20Troops20to20Do20in20Gazas_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D62f03df4bfd132f86d4a790df69d283e

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2024 3:20 utc | 165

Which you are obviously perverted enough to thoroughly enjoy.
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 2:53 utc | 161
Yes. This creature is a pervert.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 9 2024 3:24 utc | 166

Zionism,
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Posted by: Ed | Nov 9 2024 1:22 utc | 142
Talking heads vibe, Ed.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 9 2024 3:26 utc | 167

Woodenhue | Nov 8 2024 22:58 utc | 110
*** I`m sorry that you believe that Congress and the Senate,MSM,and Universities are truthful….maybe someday you will realise that that is not the case…***
So where are all the big and powerful Jewish organisations demanding that the Israelis stop claiming to be “The Jewish State” and denouncing the farcical but now legally enforced definition of so-called “anti-semitism”?
No, they are all making bought or unhinged political leaders impose and enforce it!
Maybe some day you will learn to see the reality.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 3:28 utc | 168

“Zionism is an essential part of Jewish identity
Zionism is the belief that Jews have the right to self-determination and a Jewish state in its ancestral home.”
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc | 126
Poland? Does Duda know about this?

Posted by: jr | Nov 9 2024 3:56 utc | 169

As others have noted no one from FIFA or the Euro football league has ever satisfactorily explained way the zionist entity, located on stolen West Asian land, competes in the european football competitions.
Personally I date the entire episode back to the early 90’s when UEFA & FIFA desperate to get amerikan participation in their sad & wanky version of football worked to make it more attractive to amerikans and paid a particularly heavy price.
Administration of the game was largely in the control of old euro-socialists determined to keep their football clubs outta the hands of private enterprise were rolled by an ‘investigation’ conducted by the FBI wherein the paltry few mill some of these old fellas had been pocketing were revealed, they were all pushed out and clubs became much more corportatised with amerikan money, much of it from zionists who pushed to make sure the zionist entity was spoiled shitless.
In addition re-investment of profits in the game fell drastically as ticket prices rose precipitously, robbing many working class fans of the opportunity to see a game live & as TV rights became equally expensive that option was denied many too.
Old leftist clubs such as Barcelona cop all sorts of garbage from FIFA for waving Russian & Palestinian flags at games, meanwhile the zionists abuse anyone who isn’t a jew (this week in Amsterdam even Dutch zionism supporters were bashed by Maccabi supporters), wave their hateful banners and shout their murderous chants during periods of silence for the gentiles killed in Valencia’s flooding.
I first noticed an article on this subject during my daily 5 minute hate read of england’s Guardian which appears to have been either written by a split personality or perhaps filed by a reporter seeking to describe the facts, then sub-edited by the usual deceitful guardian sub-editors.
A headline Amsterdam police arrest more than 60 people after attacks on Israeli football fans” is displayed above a video of a cab driver getting the living shit kicked outta him whilst the ‘story’ is a mixture of an accurate description of the zionist visitor’s foul & violent behaviour interspersed with the usual crass generalisations about islam in general and Palestinians in particular.
The worst part of the graun article was the way it included so much pro-zionist, islamophobic garbage from a broad section of dutch politicians, when many of us know all to well the vast sums zionist organisations have ‘donated’ to dutch political leaders.
Are these derps even slightly aware of the reality that a good part of the contempt expressed by zionist zealots towards gentiles is grounded in the fact that gentile pols do & say anything no matter how untrue & despicable, if the money (often a pittance relative to the handouts these donations secure) appears sufficient to the politician.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 9 2024 4:23 utc | 170

Posted by: Naive | Nov 8 2024 22:07 utc | 101
??? I said Zionists & over 70 years ago. 🤷

Posted by: Mary | Nov 9 2024 4:28 utc | 171

Kimo Loka @ 44, 68:
Your comments not only deliberately twist parts of Bernhard H’s post to suggest that one thing led to another – he said nothing of the sort – but they are disgusting and abhorrent lies as well.
Perhaps you should go crawling back to your superiors for more instructions on how to conduct a conversation online, now that you have been found out as a hasbarat cubicle rat.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 9 2024 4:35 utc | 172

@ Refinnejenna | Nov 9 2024 4:35 utc | 173
right on jen..thanks for saying that..

Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 4:41 utc | 173

@ Debsisdead | Nov 9 2024 4:23 utc | 171 with details about how cheap it is to buy politicians

The worst part of the graun article was the way it included so much pro-zionist, islamophobic garbage from a broad section of dutch politicians, when many of us know all to well the vast sums zionist organisations have ‘donated’ to dutch political leaders.

It is kind of a sick joke that the public needs to buy its own politicians

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 9 2024 4:44 utc | 174

Sorry about my comment @ 176, I don’t know what happened there, I did have the New York Post headline up on my screen but it disappeared and the rest of my comment ended up linked to the article.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 9 2024 4:48 utc | 176

@ Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc | 126
No one should concede to the Zionists the right to speak in the name of the Jews. Never mind that Zionism has over 80% support among Jews: That does not mean that that will continue or will survive the current crisis.
Zionism is not Judaism and is not a basic or essential part of Judaism. As the Israeli Jewish philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz (1903-1994) noted, when questioned about his view that the state was not essential, said, “It’s not in the Torah. It’s not in the mitzvot (ritual obligations).” When Naive said Zionism was not supported by traditional Jews, he meant the ultraorthodox, for whom that assertion is to some extent true. Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, in his book The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft, states that the Zionists are Amalek, enemies of Jews and Judaism who must be eliminated. When someone is sincere in upholding the truth like Rabbi Shapiro, I am not going to dismiss his view as being of no importance and no consequence, nor am I going to demean him by even considering the Zionists to be Jews at all.
Zionists are nationalist idol worshipers who “kiss the idol,” in Rabbi Shapiro’s phrase, that idol being the State of Israel, which has illegitimately tried to place itself on God’s throne, completely negating Judaism. The symbols of the Zionist state, its flag, its coat of arms, its anthem, are all nationalist symbols only cosmetically different from symbols of other nationalisms, including the swastika, because all nationalisms are ultimately the same. Zionism is only worse because its insecurity and lack of legitimacy lead it to try to establish itself by force. But Palestine will never be secure for it, so its nationalist logic will lead it to try to conquer and control everything in the whole planet, and their terrorist invasion of the Netherlands is just an earnest of what awaits.
Yes, their immediate goal to attack and delegitimate the Palestinians, but there is another, more devious goal in their desire to make the nations rise up against their Jewish citizens and inhabitants everywhere, that is, to make life impossible for the Jews except in Israel. This is an antisemitic project and is why the State of Israel itself is essentially antisemitic, why is allies itself everywhere with antisemites, why it can never be even “liberal,” let alone egalitarian, why it completely has adopted and supports the antisemitic nationalist analysis of who the Jews are. We should never subscribe to nor support this project by conceding any Jewish legitimacy to Zionism. To denounce Zionism, one must deny that it has anything to do with Judaism, and indeed it certainly does not.
Concede nothing. Zionists are anti-Jewish terrorists, traitors to and betrayers of Jews and Judaism, and in time, probably sooner rather than later, the diaspora Jews will come to understand this. Even if today fewer than 20% of the Jews disown Zionism and Israel, like the JVP and like many of the ultraorthodox frum Jews like Rabbi Shapiro, that is already a lot more than in the past, when the true character of Zionism had not yet come out as it has now, and among the Jewish youth those disowning it already exceeds 30%.

Posted by: Cabe | Nov 9 2024 4:59 utc | 177

Who Started Terrorism in the Arab-Israeli Conflict?
– Bombs in Cafes: first used by Zionists in Palestine on March 17th, 1937 in Jaffa.
– Bombs on Buses: first used by Zionists in Palestine Aug. 20th-Sep. 26, 1937.
– Bombs in Market Places: first used by Zionists on July 6th, 1938 in Haifa.
– Bombing of Hotels: first used by Zionists on July 22nd, 1946 in Jerusalem.
– Bombing of Foreign Embassies: first used by Zionists on October 1st, 1946 in Rome (against the British).
– Mining of Ambulances: First used by Zionists on October 31st, 1946 in Petah Tikvah.
– Letter Bombs: first used by Zionists in June 1947 against British targets in UK.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 9 2024 5:07 utc | 178

PBS NewsHour, Nov 8 edition, introduced the Dutch riots topic in a typically Fair & Balanced manner:
“Dutch authorities are investigating the cause of violent riots after a football match.”
Then they broadcast the clip of ‘people’ climbing buildings to rip down Palestinian flags which b included in his post.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 9 2024 6:34 utc | 179

Here, the most detailed and source confirmed account I found. Confirmed by Dutch City Council member among others.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/8/israeli-football-fans-clash-with-protesters-in-amsterdam

Posted by: Wlodek | Nov 9 2024 6:54 utc | 180

CIJA: ‘Don’t Look Away’.
https://x.com/CIJAinfo/status/1854956747691376950
“What happened in Amsterdam is the disturbing reality of Jewish life in 2024…” Center for Israel & Jewish Affairs (Canada).
NATO States Denounce ‘Anti-Semitism’ After Israeli Football Hooligans Riot in Amsterdam
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/11/09/lcps-n09.html
“…There is reason to believe, moreover, that this was a deliberate provocation arranged between Israeli authorities and the far-right Dutch government.
In the days before the Maccabi-Ajax game, Dutch newspapers De Telegraaf and Voetbalzone reported that agents of Israel’s Mossad foreign intelligence agency would be travelling among the Maccabi fans…
At the stadium, just before the game, the Maccabi fans refused to honor the minute of silence for the thousands of victims of the Valencia floods in Spain, apparently because Madrid has called to recognize a Palestinian state. However, tensions exploded after the game, which Maccabi lost 5-0.
Maccabi hooligans ‘began attacking houses of people in Amsterdam with Palestinian flags, so that’s actually where the violence started’, Amsterdam city councilman Jazie Veldhuyzen told Al Jazeera yesterday.
As a result, Amsterdammers mobilized themselves and countered the attacks that started on Wednesday by the Maccabi hooligans.
Maccabi hooligans rampaged across the city, tearing up Palestinian flags, hitting taxis driven by Arab drivers with crowbars, and chanting pro-genocide slogans.
These included ‘There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left,’ ‘fuck Palestine’, ‘IDF fuck the Arabs’, and ‘Death to Arabs! We will win!’
Comparisons by Biden, Macron, [Trudeau] and others, between clashes with Maccabi football hooligans and the Holocaust are politically obscene.
The force that is carrying out a genocide today is not the working class of Amsterdam, but the Zionist regime, backed by NATO governments.
Moreover, the Zionist regime is working with the European imperialist powers to create conditions for further provocations like the one this week in Amsterdam…”
Beware. Organize. Protect. De-Zionize.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 9 2024 7:08 utc | 181

I think we’re seeing in Amsterdam the same kind of outrage and anger that drove the Roman garrison at Jerusalem to level the second temple almost two thousand years ago.
Zealots then and zealots now.
Judaism is a mind virus, like all the abrahamic religions.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 9 2024 7:41 utc | 182

Remeberance day approches.
Lets spend the time remembering what israel the jews and those that back them have done to the palistinians and lebanese for many many years not least the last two years.
Lest we forget.
Defund and protest against israel.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 7:56 utc | 183

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 9 2024 3:28 utc | 169
So Cynic… you`re saying that you have no idea what a jew is…

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 9 2024 8:17 utc | 184

Posted by: Cabe | Nov 9 2024 4:59 utc | 178
Thank you for this….good stuff..

Posted by: Woodenhue | Nov 9 2024 8:35 utc | 185

BoardinDundee @ Nov 9 2024 0:04 utc | 128
I seriously doubt that – refitting subs with vertical launch tubes is not simple, this would be thratening the structural integrity a lot.
Also maintaining 200 warheads means constant reprocessing of fissile material, this stuff has a half-life. Where are the Natanz-sized centrifuge plants in Israel?
I don’t doubt they got a warhead or two from the French with US assistance and maybe a few more when the Soviet Union dissolved but all of this is 40+ years ago. With no tests or test rumors since the Vela incident the likelyhood of this being a bluff is pretty high.
I doubt the nukes have strategic value here, they could only be used once and in revenge. I don’t think using them, even if Israels existence is threatened would benefit any of the Jewish diaspora. Even if some nukes got spent on Beirut, Teheran, New York and Moscow, what would the next day look like? Not a safer Israel I assure you, the targeted people would rise as one to strike back.
AIPAC and Mossad have way better leverage on politicians, money and kompromat from pedos and honey traps.
No n eed to nuke New York with a suitcase bomb, US and UN politicians are massively cheaper.
So let’s not spread that scary tale any more, it’s just delaying consequences.

Posted by: SOS | Nov 9 2024 9:31 utc | 186

“Various reports have since shown that the majority of those killed on that day were Arabs from Gaza.”
Can you link to those reports, please? Thank you.

Posted by: Paul Schneider | Nov 9 2024 9:52 utc | 187

One wonders how the hell the EU, the Dutch government, the UN and its international courts can allow a football club representing a regime considered very likely genocidal by the international court, the United Nations and a large portion of the world’s governments, how those responsible can allow a football club represninthat that regime to compete in international football chanmpionchips.
Nover mind the Moassad-infested hooligans they bring in two, and the propanda opportunities the football games provide for a genocial regime.

Posted by: Marvin | Nov 9 2024 10:26 utc | 188

Paul Schneider @188
Try the archieve here on moa, lots of links in the comments.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 11:04 utc | 189

How many macobi supporters were arrested,
I wonder ?
A comparison of the numbers of arests would be usefull.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 11:16 utc | 190

This is exactly where AI and the Algorithms come to the fore. Social media and the comments underneath the propaganda videos will explode. 80% of which won’t even be real human beings.
Algorithms to herd the sheep to the videos. AI bots spreading bullshit in the comments. Designed to hook and catch gullible fish.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 23:38 utc | 122
Correct. The real purpose of all the ChatGPT and other AI sludge is not to make a profit, but to create a virtual world of lies that will be stuffed down everyone’s throat. The time the next lockdowns roll out is a perfect time to start having internet connectivity issues, blocking messenger apps, stripping alternative media sites of their IP addresses, and replacing all of the real information with 100% AI-filled facade sites.

Posted by: Jack M | Nov 9 2024 11:19 utc | 191

If they don’t act like Humans – Don’t treat them like they are – Sabe?

Posted by: GMC | Nov 9 2024 11:26 utc | 192

“Zionism is an essential part of Jewish identity
Zionism is the belief that Jews have the right to self-determination and a Jewish state in its ancestral home.”
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 23:50 utc | 126
Something like 90% of israelis are khazars and never had anything to do with the middle eastern area at all. The tiny semitic part of the israeli population only inhabited “israel” for a few extremely short periods in history. It was never their ancestral home.
Talmudic jews’ main desire is the removal of every other human being’s right to self-determination.

Posted by: Jack M | Nov 9 2024 11:29 utc | 193

Here in britain i hered (but cant varify) that 75% of all MP’s are members of ‘freands of israel’ i guise it helps their career as politians, that cant be democratic, it cant be good for security and independence of the uk. Follow the money.
And it goes a long way to explain ‘all’ the media bias in reporting incedents like in Amsterdam or for that matter Gaza itself.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 11:50 utc | 194

@Mark2 #196
The numbers from the last UK parliamentary term were 80% of Conservative MPs and 40% of Labour MPs belonged to xxxxx Friends of Israel. Basically a parliamentary majority. Add to the mix that the father of Lyndsey Hoyle (speaker of the house) was one of the founding members of Labour Friends of Israel.
What it is now I have no idea, especially as both organizations now seem reluctant to release there member lists.
The gutter press has been quick off the mark to expose English football hooligans, they they somehow seem not so keen on exposing the Israeli hooligans.

Posted by: Al Dossary | Nov 9 2024 12:12 utc | 195

Thanks for that info, your imput reinforces the point really well.
I’l add that this situation renders the media watchdogs impotent.
Similar to how impotent the UN are over both conflicts / wars at the momment.
Joining the dots.
Im an optamist…
If you can identify the problem your half way to solving the problem.
Respect to you.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 12:32 utc | 196

Thanks for that info, your imput reinforces the point really well.
I’l add that this situation renders the media watchdogs impotent.
Similar to how impotent the UN are over both conflicts / wars at the momment.
Joining the dots.
Im an optamist…
If you can identify the problem your half way to solving the problem.
Respect to you.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 9 2024 12:33 utc | 197

b, help did my comment go to jail?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 9 2024 12:40 utc | 198

Posted by: BoardinDundee | Nov 9 2024 0:04 utc | 128 “in the Dolphin Submarines that Germany supplied as “reparations from ww2 ” they have refitted to have vertical launch tubes etc.”
Only the last of the six Dolphin submarines, the Drakon, has an enlarged sail that might be fitted with vertical launch tubes. I don’t think the Drakon has been delivered yet.

Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 9 2024 12:43 utc | 199

Split into two parts. 1/2
lol when they try to bring politics and sport together it doesn’t end well for the either.
The Zionists trying to use Jewish European nationals history as a pawn will fail too.
Most people won’t know that Ajax football team and fans are referred to as “the Jews’ by rivals !
As well as other teams across Europe including England’s Tottenham Hotspurs as well as Italy’s Roma and Germany’s Bayern Munich.
Curious therefore that this kerfuffle was kicked off (pun) with such a match between multiethnic multiracial fans referred to as ‘Jewish’ supporting Palestine and the ziofascists thugs and Mossad agitators who are trying to stop that Palestinian support across the whole of Europe.
A bit more background for our esteemed barflies this Saturday of football across Europe – bear with me if you think Associations Football – soccer, is a girly game.
Football in Europe had long distracted the masses from most political realities and their poverty ridden hard lives. Now it acts as a soma drug to divert even the majority of the middle classes. It is a mass religion for the British and has been for over century.
But sometimes it brings together the masses into a common purpose that overrides club tribalism. International games are like that. That’s what such mass emotional pressure relief events were made for to keep the working classes distracted and let off steam until needed to join up and go die in some foreign corner for some imperialist conquest for their lords and masters.
However it also has the other edge to it – one that can’t be controlled by the masters as they are trying to do so now.
When the fans see through the crap and react.
It is a dangerous game the Rulers play and it can turn into a mass revolution on the turn of a coin- they might be about to unleash the unexpected consequences with messing with the masses psyche, urged on by the ziofascist imperialist failures and desperation on all their fronts.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 9 2024 12:49 utc | 200