Palestine Open Thread 2024-286
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Posted by b on November 29, 2024 at 13:27 UTC | Permalink
next page »Israel is already beginning the process of occupying Lebanon. They have brought in tanks and bulldozers to some areas that Hezbollah prevented the IDF from entering before. They are carrying out demolitions in these areas and blocking the roads.:
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Lebanon:
Hostile Israeli forces consisting of 4 tanks and 2 bulldozers are penetrating one of the western neighborhoods that they did not enter during the confrontations and in which the resistance fighters held out throughout the aggression period. They are now occupying it under the shadow of the ceasefire in violation of this resolution.
Special documentation || of a new occupation and expansion operation by enemy tanks and bulldozers towards the cemetery of the city of #Khiam and one of the western neighborhoods downwards, and carrying out demolition and bulldozing operations in areas that the enemy army was unable to enter during the confrontations and is exploiting the ceasefire to achieve this in violation of the agreement.
The enemy forces also advanced today to the square of the town of Markaba, which they were unable to enter during the days of the confrontations, and occupied it today under the ceasefire after civilians were present there yesterday, and are carrying out a process of bulldozing and blocking roads.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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In the northern Gaza Strip, this morning, the IDF massacred 50 people in one house - the house belonged to one family, but they had taken in dozens of displaced people.:
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The western areas of Beit Lahia project have been subjected to intensive attacks since this morning, including repeated air raids, heavy gunfire, and artillery shelling. Helicopters are also witnessing repeated sorties accompanied by intermittent machine gun fire.
Eyewitnesses reported that snipers control some streets in Beit Lahia project, where they stand on street corners and warn passersby not to approach, specifically on Al-Souq and Al-Qassam streets.
Press sources - Targeting the house of the Ahmed family (Abu Al-Moataz Ahmed) in the Beit Lahia project area, and killing everyone in the house, as the house shelters a large number of displaced people and the family. According to eyewitnesses, there were more than 50 people in the house.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Nov 29 2024 14:09 utc | 1
Earlier in the other thread I said:
When I heard about the 400 casualties for a day on the attacking force in syria it sounded like kursk all over again.
"Will go for "its bigger than it seems"
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 29 2024 7:33 utc | 135"
Later I found this one (not sure if someone can confirm)
"Statement issued by the General Command of the Army and Armed Forces of the Syrian Arab Republic:
"Wednesday, November 27, 2024, terrorist groups, including "Al-Nusra Front," launched a large-scale attack on safe villages, towns, and military positions in the Aleppo and Idlib countryside, violating the de-escalation agreement.
The Syrian armed forces are actively responding to the ongoing attack, inflicting significant losses on the terrorists in both equipment and personnel. The forces are using various firepower methods, in coordination with allied forces, to restore stability in the region.""
So indeed it looks like kursk and sand, but this time the head with around 30k is visible from the start
Decided to post here, instead of open thread as it is part of the us/israel destabilizing from gaza to syria
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 29 2024 14:10 utc | 2
once again, for those who wish to read it, the Lebanon-israel Ceasefire Agreement is at the second link by journalist/analyst Elijah Magnier
how long it will hold is anyone's guess
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1861867466009252055
Elijah J. Magnier đȘđș @ejmalrai
The ceasefire/cessation of hostilities will not be fully respected for the next few days until the five-member committee meets and starts work within the next 48 hours. So don't be too pessimistic after every violation of the agreement. The bombing has stopped. That is important.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1862017623254351901
Elijah J. Magnier đȘđș @ejmalrai
The 13 Key Points of the Ceasefire Agreement
Cessation of Hostilities:
The cessation of all military operations on both sides begins at 4:00 AM, November 27, 2024. This includes a halt to offensive actions by both Israel and Hezbollah, with the aim of reducing escalation and preventing further loss of life.
Prevention of Armed Activities:
The Lebanese government is tasked with ensuring that no armed activities targeting Israel originate from its territory. Similarly, Israel agrees to cease all military actions against Lebanese territory, including both civilian and military sites.......
....Commitment to a Long-Term Ceasefire:
Both sides express a commitment to progress towards a permanent ceasefire and a broader peace framework, addressing unresolved issues to foster long-term stability in the region.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 14:13 utc | 3
It is a strange kind of ceasefire where one side (Hezbollah) has not signed it.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2024 14:19 utc | 4
It is a strange kind of ceasefire where one side (Hezbollah) has not signed it.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2024 14:19 utc | 4
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âŠand the other (Zionazi) side isnât honoring it.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 29 2024 14:32 utc | 5
Things are not going well for Syria. This "surprise" offensive seems to have caught them completely be surprise.
According to https://t.me/s/DDGeopolitics , the terrorists are already entering the outskirts of Aleppo. Syria should take up Iran's offer to send a brigade of special forces. Also, Iraqi popular mobilization forces have stated they will support Syria, So things may not be as dire as I think. In my opinion, this offensive was orchestrated by the CIa and/or Israel, to preclude the possibility of Syria joining the fight against Israel. This will also be used a pretext (as if needed) to keep US troops in Ira and Syria. To fight against the terrorists. lol. Naturally, Erdogen is being the snake he is, as this couldn't have happened without his knowledge (and probable support). As someone mentioned, maybe this will be like the Ukranian Dursk offensive, heavy losses for smell gains...
Posted by: ctiger | Nov 29 2024 14:47 utc | 6
Today is the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.
UN chief Guterres issued a statement that lamely asks for a two-state solution and a cease-fire (how ironic, given that the latest cease-fire Israel signed only days ago has already been broken). He says the UN will stand in solidarity with the Palestine people and their inalienable rights. The UN may not go so far as to enforce its own rulings vis a vis the illegal occupation and genocide of Palestinians, but I'm sure Guterres means well.
For what it's worth.*
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UN chief Antonio Guterres has relayed a message advocating for Palestinian freedom, security and statehood on the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.
Guterresâs message, read out by the director of the UNâs office in Geneva, called this yearâs commemoration âespecially painfulâ as Palestiniansâ aspirations for âdignity, rights, justice and self-determination ⊠are as distant as they have ever beenâ.
He called for an âimmediate ceasefireâ in Gaza, urgent humanitarian aid to reach the enclave, the release of captives, and progress toward a two-state solution that ensures the peace and security of both Israel and Palestine.
âThe UN will continue to stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people and their inalienable rights to live in peace, security and dignity,â said the statement by Guterres.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/11/29/live-israel-kills-42-across-gaza-accused-of-truce-violations-in-lebanon
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*Yeah, invoking the old Buffalo Springfield song with that title on purpose.
Posted by: teri | Nov 29 2024 14:57 utc | 8
The attack on Aleppo is the result of the Russians having a deal with the Turks to stop the SAA advance to liberate Idlib a few years ago after Aleppo was liberated, they allowed those terrorist head hackers to leave Aleppo with their weapons on Buses for Idlib, what they should have done is wiped them out now Aleppo is under threat again, will they ever learn what and who they are dealing with?
Posted by: Englishman | Nov 29 2024 15:01 utc | 9
@ 9
The SAA was exhausted and the deal got them the rest of Aleppo. Much easier than it would've otherwise.
It's funny to see people hyperventilating about this raid, given what happened to Hamas.
Light troops moving through an area isn't the same as taking it.
The pyops are in full swing, people saying the SAA etc, is fleeing Aleppo and Assad fled to Moscow.
Even though he stayed in Syria when the "rebels" were on the outskirts of Damascus itself.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Nov 29 2024 15:14 utc | 10
@9,
Sadly yes, the Russians for some reason still try to do deals with the Turks while getting stabbed in the back every single time. I remember there were some discussions a few months ago that the Turks were allegedly wanting to do some negotiations with Syria to end the occupation. Even now a few days ago they are speaking about a 'limited incursion' although from the latest reports, the Wahabis are pretty much inside Aleppo.
I don't want to think that Russia is naive, but it's not the first time when they tried the diplomacy stuff with Turkey and they got a** in return. However, what is happening with the Syrian Army is problematic to say the least.
You can't expect to stop an offensive with your pants down and only aviation. If they indeed lose a city as big as Aleppo in a few days, it won't be good for Assad at all.
Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:23 utc | 11
Before anyone accuses me of being a troll, I'm not saying that losing Aleppo would mean the end of Assad because the guy resisted when the Wahabi scum was at the door of Damascus, but it's truly shocking how fast the army has disintegrated.
If they actually regain the strength to halt the offensive, win back the territory that they lost, they need try to go all in to Idlib and finish the rebels once and for all.
Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 12
Hezbollah never agreed to this cessation of hostilities, nor did it disagree. It already signed off on the UN Resolution in 2006. Israel violated that agreement ever since, and Hezbollah only ever acted to reciprocate on each occasion. As distinct from a âceasefireâ, a cessation of hostilities can be announced by one side only, and this is what Israel has done.
Hezbollah has nothing to agree with, or to disagree with, and has no need to comment, which is why it â very noticeably â has not said a word.
Mahmood in his latest shows us how Israel has been angling for this cessation since October 2024. It obviously realized it had bitten off more than it could chew, practically from the beginning, and wanted out.
Israel begged for this pause in the fighting, and the region sees that this is unequivocally a victory for Hezbollah. Hezbollah repulsed the enemy invasion â resoundingly, visibly and beyond any doubt â and caused the enemy to sue for peace, for a time.
In Lebanon, this is seen as total victory for Hezbollah. Rania Khalek talks with Ghadi Francis about this.
This pause will last until it ends â perhaps pretty soon, perhaps as soon as the Aleppo breakout is crushed by Syria and its good friend Russia, along with those from Hezbollah who have been there all along. Hamas has blessed the pause from Hezbollah, offering gratitude for the year of noble sacrifice by Lebanon, which it sanctifies.
All is well in the balance of things. Hezbollah is not weakened by recent events, nor is its materiel diminished, nor does it lack for manpower - and its morale is sky-high. And Hezbollah, by not saying anything, has neither chosen to cease attacking Israel in defense of Gaza, nor has not chosen so to do.
Israel is the only voice squeaking in all of this. The warriors have not changed in their position by one millimeter.
Professor Marandi offers sane perspective as always, this time talking with Nima.
I think the pause is wrapped in a mild psy-op from the west to further fracture the already very fractured Lebanon state, making cheap propaganda out of this move, putting a brave face on defeat and also using some covering smoke from the obviously coordinated attack in Syria.
The battlefields will decide everything.
Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 13
Americans buying Uzbek mercenaries. I think they'll find them unreliable. Men fighting for dollar bills don't have the commitment of people fighting for their homes and families. So I'll be happy to watch America's pet terrorists have their assholes blown out, again.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 29 2024 15:33 utc | 14
Martyr Qasem Soleimani explains the war in Syria
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/36055
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2024 15:35 utc | 15
here we go again
Al Mayadeen English news/politics/-israel--violates-ceasefire--shells-border-towns-in-south-le
'Israel' violates ceasefire, shells border towns in south Lebanon
Two journalists were wounded Wednesday by Israeli fire while reporting on the return of displaced residents to and the Israeli withdrawal from the southern Lebanese town of Khiam.
The Israeli occupation forces (IOF) shelled the town of Khiam on Thursday, violating the ceasefire agreement with Lebanon, Al Mayadeen's correspondent in southern Lebanon reported.
The towns of Taybeh, Rub al-Thalathin, and Marjaayoun, were also targeted by Israeli artillery.
Lebanon's National News Agency reported that Israeli artillery targeted the hills of the town of Hilta in the Hasbaya district, aiming at civilians on the outskirts of the town.......
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 15:36 utc | 16
Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1:
I was absolutely sure the 'ceasefire' would not last more than 15 minutes.
Turns out I was off by a few hours.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 15:44 utc | 17
I find it helpful to remember that regardless of the distraction or proxy, the fundamentals have not changed.
Israel is still bleeding out.
Iran and Yemen will never make peace with Israel.
The only thing that can change things in the short term would be for Trump to make a massive deployment of American forces (back) to West Asia.
And that too is unsustainable, even for a year. America doesn't have the equipment, the manpower, or the requisite spiritual commitment to succeed.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 29 2024 15:47 utc | 18
Maybe the ceasefire violation is related to what is happening in Syria. Israel thinks that it has a good change to knock Hezbollah out while Iran/Syria/Russia is focused somewhere else.
Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:49 utc | 19
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
"-Expected speech today by Hezbollah Secretary General Naim Qassem
-Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma, specialist and follower of Hebrew affairs
News of the explosion of a large number of wireless devices in the Syrian army in Syria"
More massacres in Gaza
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 15:49 utc | 20
NO one should ever trust an Izzyhell savage about anything for any reason anywhere. I thought that was clear long ago. Now 50+ more dead in Gaza. Reporters wounded. How many dead in Lebanon? How much of the West Bank has Izzyhell stolen while the world was watching the "ceasefire?" How many dead in Syria?
And Erdogan - the snake. I often wonder if he is a Izzyhell in drag dancing under the stars with Blinken and Nod.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 29 2024 15:53 utc | 21
BREAKING: Dozens of explosions of walkie-talkies and pagers now comfirmed among the Syrian Army, Mossad is directly aiding the terrorist advance
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/13053?single
Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2024 16:05 utc | 23
@17 Arch
The ceasefire is of not bombing rest of Lebanon for Hezballah not firing into "Israel".
Implementing the rest involves combat normally, unless Hezballah just abandon their positions.
@13 Grieved
Hezballah has abided by a cessation of hostilities, it has every right to independently. Until Qassem or other officials make known their position, it is maybe not wise to guess what those are.
Equally it has all served "Israel" a pretext on a plate. In the west it is understood Hezballah agreed, and we have "Israel" now threatening complete destruction if the 'agreement' is breached. That is what it presents to its supporters, i.e. the US. Not to be fooled, look at what inventions and pretexts various previous conflicts were based on. I don't say it goes that way, no choice but to be very wary of it all though.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 16:07 utc | 24
Repeating the set of local Palestine links....
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 16:13 utc | 25
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 14:13 utc | 3
Iran seems to have endorsed the ceasefire deal.
https://x.com/IranNuances/status/1862002182133854503
Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 29 2024 16:16 utc | 26
There are reports of mob action by settler fanatics against IDF troops, with arrests and police breaking up the attacks. Very surprising.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 29 2024 16:27 utc | 27
Hezbollah Secretary General Sheikh Naim Qassem speaking - you can watch live:
https://www.presstv.ir/Live
Posted by: JB | Nov 29 2024 16:47 utc | 28
Hezbollah needs to respond to every single IDF attack in kind........if the IDF is shelling their villages in the south of the Litani River, then Hezbollah should shell or rocket Kiryat Shimona...........
Tit of tat, the Ceasefire Commission will be useless in every way, its a CIA/IDF front group.......no more.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 29 2024 17:24 utc | 29
It's funny to see people hyperventilating about this raid, given what happened to Hamas.
Light troops moving through an area isn't the same as taking it.
The pyops are in full swing, people saying the SAA etc, is fleeing Aleppo and Assad fled to Moscow.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Nov 29 2024 15:14 utc | 10
It is not the fall Syria but I suspect it is a moderately safe bet that it will go further, in proportion, than the Kursk offensive and take longer to push back.
Posted by: Satepestage | Nov 29 2024 17:44 utc | 30
Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1:
I was absolutely sure the 'ceasefire' would not last more than 15 minutes.
Turns out I was off by a few hours.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 15:44 utc | 17
Nope!, Hezbollah is abiding to the ceasefire after more than 2 days and only will abandon it if the zionists break it forcefully, even after some shooting, bombing and detaining of Lebaneses Hezbollah by the zionists they are not responding.
Hezbollah chief Sheikh Naim Qassem today: "We approved the deal, with our heads held high" and also âCoordination between the resistance and Lebanese army will be high-level to implement the dealâ
I translate it to you: the deal = the ceasefire
Iran also approve the ceasefire and, as Hezbollah, they are people of faith, honor and word, unlike the zionists and the western vassals, so they will abide to what the hace signed.
Posted by: Dave | Nov 29 2024 17:52 utc | 31
Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 13
Thank you, Grieved; good to see you!
Posted by: juliania | Nov 29 2024 17:54 utc | 32
The battlefields will decide everything.
Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 13
Yes, well done. (Nice to see your here.)
The main question I have now is what role the Lebanese armed forces will play in this dog-and-pony show. Aoun was getting along pretty well with Hezbollah before the Gaza war started.
Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 29 2024 17:55 utc | 33
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
"Naim Qassem:
The ceasefire agreement is not a treaty, but rather a program of executive measures related to Resolution 1701
The coordination between the resistance and the Lebanese army will be at a high level to implement the commitments of the agreement.
Our view of the Lebanese army is that it is a national army, leadership and personnel, and it will be deployed in its homeland and our homeland.
The agreement was made under the umbrella of Lebanese sovereignty, and we agreed to it with our heads held high in our right to defend ourselves.
We will follow up with our people on the reconstruction process and we have the appropriate mechanisms and we will cooperate with the state.
We will take care of completing the constitutional institutions, most importantly the election of the president, and this will be on the specified date.
We will cooperate and hold dialogue with all forces that want to build a unified Lebanon within the framework of the Taif Agreement."
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 17:57 utc | 34
The ceasefire is like everything. Israel does what it wants and if there is a response it crys victim.
Allepo is important in several ways. Syria was Russias first commitment not to allow ancient cultures to be destroyed. They paid dearly for that. The Allepo attack at this time sends the message this is not over. The hedgemon will not accept the results of the Russian intervention. If it is to accept the reality on the ground in Ukraine it demands capitulation in the middle east.
The Allepo attack also reveals much about what Erdowan truly values. The apparent detachment of the gaza genocide from Hizbollahs operating principles represents the start of the free for all that was in the shadows. This if true simply had to come from Iran. Iran has looked after the interest of its people by avoiding the path of war. No attack is coming on Israel from Iranian soil. Iran has only one response left a true strike that inflicts real damage on Israel. That is war and Iran does not want it. The Hizbollah attacks on Israel were in the same boat. Hizbollah gradual increase in destruction would sooner or later lead to a event that would construe a intolerable situation and all out war.
Iran is out. No one else stood. Turkiye actions show its true alliance. Its proxy swords are used not to stand against genocide but to further ottoman interests. This is not a news flash. Turkiye is a Israel ally and a adversary of Russia and Iran. BiBi never responded to Erdoowans statements about Israel because he knew they were fake. The oil from Turkey never stopped. Turkiye proxys attack on Allepo within hours of the ceasefire destroys any pretense of solidarity. Its message is threefold. There is no solidarity in the Gaza issue. Turkiye allegiances lie with Israel. Any power vacuum will be exploited by Turkiye to further Ottomon interests.
This was 100% Iran. Hizbollah is Iran. Houthis are Iran. Iran will not see its nation turned to dust. Iran will not see Lebanon turned to dust. The price is too great Iran is out. Anyone who believed that the Sunni power block wanted Iran to succeed is very naive. Both the sunni and Shia practicioners are outraged at the genocide. The people. There is solidarity there but the powerbloc cares not. The people are of no consequence.
Iran did the right thing. World war 3 will not save Gaza. Im not sure anything will save Gaza. The first part of the generals plan the northern third being depopulate will happen at the very least. I am not optimistic about the other two thirds. I an fearful for humanity when it accepts genocide. world war 3 may have been postponed but ultimatly putting power struggles above basic human right to exist will result in it occurring. War is trying to genocide them before they genocide you. There are no winners in accepting genocide.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 18:02 utc | 35
Find it hard to believe that the pagers/cellphones wouldnât be checked after the hezbolah ones went boom.
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 29 2024 18:10 utc | 36
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 29 2024 17:24 utc | 29 "Hezbollah needs to respond to every single IDF attack in kind"
It looks like Hezbollah will not be doing that as they don't want to ruin their great victory.
Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 29 2024 18:21 utc | 37
Going to post this again;
IMO
This is the end of the Palestinians.
West Bank and Gaza will be annexed entirely. Trump's team will back them even more than Biden's. Israel will use the 'ceasefire' to rearm and regroup. The West will 'take care' of Lebanon for them.
Israel is fighting a war of extermination. Their enemies are not willing to commit to what is necessary to stop them.
The rest of the region is only delaying their turn for extermination by allowing Israel to continue the genocide of the Palestinians. It has been made very clear that most of the rest of the world does not care to stop Israel, ever. Those that do will be prevented by the USA/West.
RIP Palestinians. Sorry, but far too few in the world give a shit about you.
Additional;
I am now firmly convinced that Israel's enemies are utter morons.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
So how many times have the leaders of those opposing Israel been fooled? 10's? 100's?
It seems they, despite endless blatant betrayal of previous agreements by Israel, think that the UN/FUKUS will hold Israel to account. If so, more evidence they are morons.
Or maybe I just don't understand the big picture? If so, I really would like it explained so it makes some sense.
That Israel's foes still have pagers/cells/walkies that blow up? More support for my thinking.
Posted by: saner | Nov 29 2024 18:28 utc | 38
Journalist Youssef Fares
"Dr. Munir al-Barash, Director General of the Ministry of Health in the Gaza Strip, to Al Jazeera:
Israel is testing weapons on us that we do not know about. It drops bombs with terrifying sounds, and when a person approaches them within 200-300 meters, the person evaporates.
Dr. Munir al-Barash: The massacres that are taking place in the northern Gaza Strip, we do not know anything about them, and no one is calling. The occupation army is bombing residential areas, which leads to the death of all their residents, and we know about them after a day or two.
Dr. Munir al-Barash: When these weapons are dropped on residential buildings, they turn them into small pieces and crumbs. We need an international investigation committee to reveal to us what "Israel" is doing to us."
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 18:36 utc | 39
... Nope!, Hezbollah is abiding to the ceasefire after more than 2 days and only will abandon it if the zionists break it forcefully, even after some shooting, bombing and detaining of Lebaneses Hezbollah by the zionists they are not responding.
Posted by: Dave | Nov 29 2024 17:52 utc | 31
I never said Hezbollah would break the ceasefire.
I said the ceasefire would be broken (implicitly by Israel).
And sure as hell, it's broken.
You must know that a ceasefire observed by one side only is not a ceasefire?
Personally, I would not participate in the widely shared delusion that there's a ceasefire.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 18:45 utc | 40
Ornot 39
These are US bombs, which when Trump saw them he described as beautiful.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 18:56 utc | 41
Arch Bungle, what is your best guess as to why Hezbollah is now applying less pressure?
Posted by: Afro | Nov 29 2024 19:02 utc | 42
These vaporising bombs , a man of Trump's calibre would not be able to understand the Gospels statement that every hair on our bodies is counted. Nor the same message in the Qur'an, that God knows everything and it is all recorded in the smallest details.
To a man of Trump's calibre, he thinks it's beautiful because these US bombs eliminate all the evidence of the existence of those artefacts and living souls.
I think the thought of the power to eliminate the evidence of something might be extremely appealing. Biden might find it an attractive too.
But unfortunately Allah's Knowledge encompasses all things and they will revealed in every single human's Book of Deeds.
What kind of Book is this that details every tiny sin and every major sin? They will ask, and them they will realise that they are bound for Hell, and that there isn't any escape from their destiny.
Didn't any warners come to you? YES, but we didn't listen to them. If we had , we wouldn't now be being driven towards eternal punishment. And they will ask their smart gurus , like the people who showed them the obliteration bombs and about the MAGA benefits the US could get from them. But there won't come any answer, and they will be herded into Jahannam.
Surah Kahf. Read it on Fridays before commenting on the genocide in Palestine.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 19:25 utc | 43
Ornot #39.
Both Ukraine and Palestine are laboratories. Palestine is a better lab because its sealed off from prying eyes. Palestine is a better lab because they dont want to see what Russia has developed deployed. This is the benefit the USA black ops gets for ignoring Israels nuclear program. A compartmentalized program with no oversight complete with testing. USA was constrained by the neutron bomb ban. Outsourcing at its best. Israel has a half dozen reactors and none of them produce any electricity.
Hazlenut was notable because it was one tiny bit of new technology that is hidden from our view deployed for the first time. Why do I say one tiny bit? Because they were willing to reveal it. That willingness means they have much much more. Both sides do. Hazlenut was not just the display of a new model. It was a display of a new war technology.
War has always been a production/engineering contest. There are bright minds everywhere. Each approach has benefits and weaknesses. all approaches will be very effective. Much much much more effective than the past. Even the poor designs will be much more effective than the past. Not just new designs totally new vectors.
The Rubicon is being crossed. Absolutely in Ukraine. likely in Gaza. No one seems concerned.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 19:36 utc | 44
Arch Bungle 40
I think you rightly predicted that there would be a Cease, ceasefire after 15 seconds. The ceasing of the ceasefire being used to try, in the microscopic reasoning of USUKIS, to legitimise the continuation of genocide.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 19:36 utc | 45
In August, the Americans articulated two policy positions which have informed the framework of this weekâs ceasefire.
First, as stated by the US ambassador to the UN, there would be âno roleâ for the international community in negotiating a halt to Israelâs violent rampage. This has led to the absurd scenario of a ceasefire deal brokered and âguaranteedâ by one of the key belligerent parties. According to Pottery Barn rules, the Americans âownâ this agreement and ultimately are responsible for every petty violation in Israelâs Lebanese buffer zone - which will predictably occur daily for the next 58 days. (at the end of this period - the limit of the American incursion into Lebanese sovereignty - Israel must fully withdraw, the ceasefire becomes âpermanentâ, and the Lebanese government retains full control of their territory).
Second, as stated by the US State Department, and backed up by bunker-busting munitions, the Resistance must disavow principle and de-couple their solidarity from the Palestinians, at least on the kinetic level. This will presumedly allow the Israelis to concentrate all their resources to fully crush the people of Gaza and establish the promised dystopian surveillance mechanisms which will regiment the remaining Palestinians akin to life in a super-max prison, while establishing new settler outposts in preferred areas. This will be excused as an âinternal securityâ matter. Meanwhile, lip service will be paid to an eventual, but never close to realized, âpathwayâ towards a second state. International solidarity with Palestinians and United Nations resolutions will be dealt with via sanctions and other forms of economic sabotage.
The Americans, however, have lost their âsoft powerâ, which was their ultimate weapon. The Trump administration will be reckless and bullying, and will find few friends.
Posted by: jayc | Nov 29 2024 19:40 utc | 46
The Lebanese goverment tested the bunker bunker weapons strikes for anomolies. The results were not released. The EU sent multiple teams to test the bunker bust strikes in Lebanon. Their results were suppose to be released this month November.
Things are very odd. There is a lot going on we dont know about. We see only the surface of the pond.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 19:49 utc | 47
The current situation in West Asia needs to be reviewed in a larger context: Israel is on the ropes - billions in damages to civilian and/or business properties; no security guarantees; no plan for hostage return, billions in death and health benefits to Israeli families of the vaunted IOF/IDF et. al.; international pariah with many supposedly "friendly" countries such as Australia blocking visits by high ranking Israelis.
Blinkin, Bibi, Sullivan and Hochstein have embarked on a series of disastrous policy decisions which have privileged hard right Israeli interests over those of more moderate, less religuous Israeli (who have departed taking their professional skills with them). The US has pressured Israel into an ostensible ceasfire which Netanyahu shows he has no signs of keeping. Further, despite wild western claims that Lebanon is "on the verge of civil war" , Hezbollah has united Islamic and Christian factions across Lebanon. These people have only to look at Gaza/West Bank/Jerusalelm to know what the triumvirate from hell have in store for them. Not the least of which are the grunts in the Lebanese army. General Aoun is caught between the US ambassador who has called for the annihilation of Hezbollah and the Lebanese populace whose seething hatred for both the US and Israel is white hot. If there was any question in their mind that even the least of their goals and aspirations were supported by US/IS, the resounding No! is reflected in following actions: The feckless remarks of Hochstein and the ambassador; Bibi's fanatical demands to subordinate Lebanese sovereignty to Israeli "security" bombings (all crossings to Syria destroyed) and the atrocious US/IS bunker busting/white phosphorus bombs which have deliberately destroyed many of Lebanon's medical community, world renowned heritage (Bekaa Valley) and, of course, assassinated Nasrallah who was considered a national treasure. But most important US/IS has destroyed their families, friends, homes, children, elderly. This ceasefire will not hold. But further, the situation is perilous for US/UK/IS - while Gerasimov wrote the pamphlet on asymmetical warfare, Soleimani, Sinwar and Nasrallah wrote the book.
Posted by: abierno | Nov 29 2024 20:20 utc | 48
Ummm maybe the alt-media community needs a reality check. Basically all pundits on "our" side were claiming that Hezbollah's missile arsenal was formidable, and that the IDF would get their asses handed to them were they to invade Lebanon. Now the story is not black-and-white, and I'm willing to believe that the Hezbollah troops fought hard. And yet: *The Izzie Air Force seems to have complete freedom of action. Nobody expected Hezbollah to have much air defense beyond maybe some MANPADS which can harrass evac helicopters etc, but it seems they can't really touch Israeli airfields and planes either. Sure their missiles did some damage, but nothing to military/energy/leadership targets that would've made a real difference. *In contrast, the Izzies went apes on Lebanon's infrastructure, like we all knew they would, and Hezbollah apparently saw itself forced to accept mediation. As written, the deal gives Israel most of what it wants; how could it be otherwise, given that it was negotiated/imposed by the (((American))) Amos Hochstein. (BRICS or any other player are nowhere to be seen, seems this is still Washington's playground at the hour of truth.) Please let me know if I'm wrong about any/all of these.
In other news, I remember so well how any time the Syrian/Russian military had the bad guys by the balls, the Kremlin stepped in with unilateral ceasefires, green-bus deals--anything to avoid a *decisive* outcome. Couldn't hurt Erdogan's feelings. Well the "long game" of reconciliation keeps on giving. The moderate opposition indeed lived to fight another day; no denying those guys are tenacious. How many of them are there even? We've all gloated about the corrupt American misfortunes standing up Afghan and Iraqi armies, but is the SAA really in that much better shape if they just run away? And where was the vaunted Russian intelligence? Word seems to be that trust between the Syrians and Russians is pretty low. Can the Syrians be blamed for asking themselves: if Moscow cares more about Israel than about us, then why don't they station their troops in that country instead of here?
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Nov 29 2024 20:31 utc | 49
The ceasefire is a sham with the Zionists still kidnapping Lebanese folk off the streets, of course Hezbollah is a proscribed organistion - so the Zionists can claim that they were acting against terrorism - however one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
And then there's this.
"The Israeli military has warned Lebanese citizens not to return to 60 villages in the south of the country, three days into a ceasefire after more than a year of fighting with the Shia armed group Hezbollah.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) published a map, external showing a swathe of territory several miles deep, which it said residents must not return to. Anyone who did, it said, would be putting themselves in danger."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:48 utc | 50
We know for sure that the UK and the USA will not honour the ICC's warrants.
"All European Union member states are legally bound to execute arrest warrants issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his ousted war minister Yoav Gallant over war crimes in Gaza, an EU spokesperson says.
Peter Stano said in a statement that the 27-nation bloc is âstrongly committed to international criminal justice and the fight against impunity.â
The bloc supports the ICC and âthe principles set out in the Rome Statuteâ â which founded the court â as well as the courtâs âindependence and impartiality,â he added"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:52 utc | 51
Biden - MUST be standing in the dock at the Hague next to Netanyahu, Starmer, Scholz and many other countries leaders and generals - for aiding and abetting in genocide.
There's too many Western war criminals still at large - such as Blair and Bush.
"President Joe Biden of the United States is moving forward with a $680 million arms sale to Israel, amid growing concerns about American weapons being used against civilians in the Gaza Strip."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:56 utc | 52
The Americans, however, have lost their âsoft powerâ, which was their ultimate weapon.
Posted by: jayc | Nov 29 2024 19:40 utc | 46
American and more broadly western soft power has very, very little to do with how it conducts itself in the international arena and almost everything with its wealth, lifestyle and more generally its internal conditions. The US could well start to incinerate Sanaa and ukrainian ladies would still have dreamy eyes about the USA.
Posted by: Satepestage | Nov 29 2024 20:57 utc | 53
uh oh
the USA, israel, and turkey are behind this, in Syria, I would wager
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1862517184150335825
Elijah J. Magnier đȘđș @ejmalrai
Syrian opposition groups entered #Aleppo in an unprecedented collapse of all defence lines. In 48 hours, over 50 villages in rural Idlib and on the main international road were taken under the control of the opposition
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1862406814932828424
Elijah J. Magnier đȘđș @ejmalrai
Are you all aware that the escalating conflict in #Aleppo, coupled with Israeli military actions in #Syria, is diverting global attention from the humanitarian crisis and crimes committed in #Gaza? This situation risks dividing, fragmenting and diluting the solidarity among supporters of the Palestinian cause.
https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1861730732768449006
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
Matt Kennard is right, of course. But worth pointing out too that Dershowitz is wrong even on his own deranged terms.
Yes, the Nazis, the perpetrators of the Holocaust, carefully documented their crimes.
But in an age of aerial surveillance, hi-resolution imaging, modern computers and AI, Israel, the perpetrator of the Gaza genocide, has been able to document its own crimes far, far more extensively than the Nazis could ever have dreamed of.
It's just we haven't seen those Israeli records yet. When Israeli leaders face their own Nuremberg trials, we will get to see the mass of evidence â not just all the horrifying images live-streamed by Palestinians, but the details of Israel's genocidal plans and implementation.
https://x.com/alexnunns/status/1861550803841954167
Alex Nunns @alexnunns
Matt @kennardmatt comes across very well here in the way he deals with Dershowitz
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 21:01 utc | 54
@Ornot | Nov 29 2024 18:36 utc | 39
Gaza Concentration Camp is a testing weaponry laboratory for Genocide.
We don't know what this one is. What next? Bio weapons?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 29 2024 21:08 utc | 55
Ritter has on Erdogan in Syria.
The offensive against Aleppo initiated by Turkish-allied Islamists from Hayat Tahir Al-Sham (a re-branded Al Qaeda that has made common cause with ISIS) and the US-allied Syrian National Army is the consequence of a strategic plan between the Israelis and Turks, backed by the US, to cut off the supply route from Iran to Lebanon for Hezbollah, and threaten to destabilize/topple the Assad government, forcing Russia to divert resources from Ukraine to salvage their position in Syria. Ukraine has provided advisors to the anti-Assad militants on drone warfare. Israel has apparently extended its explosive pager/radio scheme into Syria as well, disrupting Syrian tactical command and control at a critical moment in the fighting.
Syria had largely demobilized, and Hezbollah had mostly returned to Lebanon. Iranian-backed Iraqi militias are ill prepared to contain this assault.
It is highly likely Aleppo will fall to the pro-Turkish Islamist forces. There will most likely be a concerted effort, led by Russia and Iran, to salvage the situation in Syria.
This will take time.
This offensive may threaten the ceasefire in Lebanon.
The biggest loser in all of this is Turkey and its President, Recep Erdogan.
This offensive could not have been carried out without close cooperation and coordination with Israel and the US.
Erdoganâs critical words against Israel have been exposed as empty rhetoric.
Erdogan has once again betrayed Russia.
And his support for Palestine has beed exposed as fraudulent in every way.
Russia and Iran will stabilize Syria.
This will take months.
Syria and its allies will destroy the Islamist stronghold in Idlib.
This will take years.
The Iran-Hezbollah supply line will be restored/maintained.
Israel will be defeated.
And the US will withdraw from Syria, probably in mid-2025.
And Turkey will continue to betray everyone it does business with, because Erdogan stands only for Turkey.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 29 2024 21:12 utc | 56
Republicofscotland 50
It seems to me obvious that Israel will bomb Hezbullah positions in South Lebanon with US vaporising bombs during the next few weeks in order to try to destroy them. This French ceasefire stinks like Minsk / Minks. The Syrian jihadists in Syria just an electric rabbit to lure them away from their defensive tunnels in the South.
The US ' determination to destroy all Resistance is enough to prove that the Israeli response to Oct 7 was totally planned in advance by USUKIS, to be naughty and do bad things while Russia is busy in Ukraine.
Russia isn't neglecting Assad, she is simply on too high a state of alert about her own security to get drawn in by any USUKIS provocations of her allies. USUKIS is clearly on a high frenzy of excitement about attacking both of its big bugbears , Communism and Islam at the same time.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 21:30 utc | 57
"...all those zionists who claimed that Hamas are âterrorist jihadists who behead babiesâ are now cheering for actual terrorist jihadists..."
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1862384870707679418
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Erdogan didn't send a single bullet to Gaza, Lebanon, or the occupied West Bank, but he armed and trained an army of foreign Al-Qaeda affiliated fighters to invade and occupy the Syrian Arab Republic which provides crucial support for the Palestinian and Lebanese Resistance.
https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1862511426838876517
Hadi @HadiNasrallah
Itâs so funny to see all those zionists who claimed that Hamas are âterrorist jihadists who behead babiesâ are now cheering for actual terrorist jihadists who behead babies in Syria just because they are fighting Assad
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 21:41 utc | 58
Amarynth at Global South is running a page on the Syria situation.
She warns that the information field is flooded with more Hasbara than she has ever seen. That's why so much of the analysis here is built on false reports and characterizations.
If you're new to that site, check out the Apocalypse thread in the Salon forum there. This has been the very best compilation of West Asia information every day since the Al-Aqsa Flood began.
Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 21:49 utc | 59
How to "democratically" avoid adressing the Palestine question, UK style...
MPs run out of time to debate Palestinian statehood Bill
Independent MP Shockat Adam (Leicester South) had SECONDS left at the end of Parliamentâs Friday sitting to present his Palestine Statehood (Recognition) (No 2) Bill, and lost his opportunity to make the case for the law change.
The pro-Gaza MPâs Bill was rescheduled for debate on January 24, but is unlikely to be considered as it now falls to the bottom of the list of private membersâ Bills, the law reforms individual MPs champion outside the Governmentâs agenda.
The Bill would have recognised a Palestinian state based on borders agreed before 1967, and would have also conferred full diplomatic status to Palestineâs mission to the UK.
Posted by: Red Star | Nov 29 2024 21:50 utc | 60
RE: Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1:
I was absolutely sure the 'ceasefire' would not last more than 15 minutes.
Turns out I was off by a few hours.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 15:44 utc | 17
Lol, I was thinking 36 hours for Hezbollah to fire back at the time I posted, so 15 mins for USReal to break ceasefire seemed very reasonable⊠wonder what took them those few hours?
In any case, Hezbollah has also exceeded my timeframe expectation in firing backâŠwaitingâŠ
Heard Hezbollah redirecting some of their forces to Syria,
and Mirandi seems quite certain Iran will be firing on USReal soon, so⊠musical chairs for who is to punish USReal next works for me.
Now that Turkey decided to bring NATO terrorist groups from Idlib to play King of the Hill for Aleppo, all the ME will get pretty interesting from Yemen to Iraq.
Nevertheless, time to get it all sorted, Egypt, Jordan, SA, Turkey, Iran.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 29 2024 22:39 utc | 61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iT9thYgaGI
This is a significant point. Israel has lost its 'infallible' reputation, its 'street cred'. Everyone now knows it's vulnerable
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 29 2024 22:40 utc | 62
" Russia and Iran will stabilize Syria.
This will take months.
Syria and its allies will destroy the Islamist stronghold in Idlib.
This will take years.
The Iran-Hezbollah supply line will be restored/maintained.
Israel will be defeated.
And the US will withdraw from Syria, probably in mid-2025.
And Turkey will continue to betray everyone it does business with, because Erdogan stands only for Turkey.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 29 2024 21:12 utc | 56 "
How can you possibly know any of this ?
Posted by: Salami | Nov 29 2024 22:44 utc | 63
on the Libanon ceasefire, did anybody have a look on Thierry Meyssan's view (see recent video on his site and 'Courrier des strateges' website) ?
- first, there is still no dissemination of a document properly / formally signed by all parties. What was published is some form of list of bullet points, nothing more. The agreement remains unclear and fragile even if Israel and Hezbollah somehow needed it both
- eventually, Israel did not achieve any tangible success, whilst Hezbollah succeeding in avoiding any significant Israeli ground entrance in Libano - but the overall price for Libano through Israeli aircraft strikes throughout Libano are awful and nobody knows how any reconstruction work will be financed and when
- Iran would be a critical player of the "truce agreement", including by forcefully pushing Hezbollah to not oppose to the truce - Hezbollah is short of weapons, as Iran does no longer provide them at required pace.
- indeed Iran is no longer focusing on a resistance axis to Israel, rather would primarily search an overall agreement with the US, including end of sanctions, and bilateral trade reopening
- Syria tried to relay Iran, but a) is itself short in weaponry, b) is now attacked by Israel which recently distroyed all roads joining Syria to Lebanon, and c) western allies within Al Quaida-like groups relaunched attacks against Syrian government and army.
- Meyssan considers likely further Israeli aircraft strikes against Syria and/or Irak
- there are many uncertainties as a) all key near-east actors (Iran, Turkey, Irak, etc.) are redesigning their policies and alliance networks, and b) nobody knows what Trump will do from his take over from Biden admin, and c) Natanhiahu future is grim, having now built a consensus against him internally and throughout most jewish communities overseas, incl US, UK and Germany.
Posted by: Dany | Nov 29 2024 22:45 utc | 64
There is a crap ton of fog of war in Syria with Aleppo right now. A lot of fairly reliable (or used to be) TG are in panic attack that all is lost in the city but there are other videos and an official Syrian channel (SANA) that mentions that everything is under control inside the city for the SAA. It really resembles the first few days of the Kursk offensive.
In the age of TG, it really is hard to get some fairly accurate real time details.
Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 22:47 utc | 65
" The US could well start to incinerate Sanaa and ukrainian ladies would still have dreamy eyes about the USA.
Posted by: Satepestage | Nov 29 2024 20:57 utc | 53 "
You could say that about Vietnamese young ladies also, as Vietnam's youth LOVES U.S. "culture" .
Posted by: Salami | Nov 29 2024 22:47 utc | 66
RE: Erdogan stands only for Turkey.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 29 2024 21:12 utc | 56
Not really. Turkey is a NATO member. Nuff said about where Erdogan âstandsâ. Another muppet.
Tell me how in any way, unleashing terrorist in Syria helps Turkey in his neighborhood? Or for Turkeyâs future?
He simply did what he was told to do. And will continue to do what he is told.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 29 2024 22:56 utc | 67
supporting fronts, including the Houthis in Yemen, and the Iraqi militias, are still active against israel. And there's a pending response from Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZl7ASsYd4
The War DIDNâT END! | âNetanyahu BEGGED The USâ | WILL HE FLEE To Avoid Arrest!?
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https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjyh00ksq1l
'This was the right time': Netanyahu sought Lebanon cease-fire deal in October, Hochstein says
White House envoy addresses representatives of Jewish American communities, detailing Lebanon cease-fire agreement, Bidenâs unwavering support for Israel and plans to enforce deal
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu requested a cease-fire in Lebanon last October, describing the timing as strategic, White House special envoy and chief mediator in the cease-fire talks Amos Hochstein revealed Wednesday.....
...Hochstein detailed the complexities of negotiating the Lebanon cease-fire, describing it as a war between Israel and Iran via Hezbollah. He clarified that while the cease-fire is permanent, IDF forces would temporarily remain in southern Lebanon to allow time for the Lebanese army to deploy......
....."Biden has been very clear with everyone and instructed me to negotiate a deal that Israel and Lebanon maintain the right of self-defense under international law. Israel continues to maintain that right. So does Lebanon," he said.....
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 22:57 utc | 68
I keep reading, Iran this, and Iran that. Iran should do this, or Iran should do that. Or, Iran didn't do this or that. Why is it Iran's responsibility to stop the genocide? It's not Iran that's committing the mass-slaughter.
Iran has done yeoman's work to counter, by organizing the resistance.
Everyone should understand that starting WWIII, and getting their country wrecked, is not in Iranians' interest.
It is a country that is recovering from an imposed war. No need to take it through the gates of hell again. I still vividly recall the very bomb that landed and ruined our house, killing several family members. The wailings of my grandmother still resonate.
Iran is where chess was invented. They are thinking 23 moves ahead. I trust they have thought this through, and will act accordingly. No need for advice from arm-chair warriors.
As I've stated previously, Iran's goal is to kick the empire out of west Asia. Afghanistan down, more to go.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:01 utc | 69
" Iran has done yeoman's work to counter, by organizing the resistance.
Everyone should understand that starting WWIII, and getting their country wrecked, is not in Iranians' interest.
It is a country that is recovering from an imposed war. No need to take it through the gates of hell again.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:01 utc | 69 "
Your comment misses the point totally. Heres a quote for you.
"We must all hang together or we will all hang separately,"
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 29 2024 23:27 utc | 70
Your comment misses the point totally. Heres a quote for you.
"We must all hang together or we will all hang separately,"
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 29 2024 23:27 utc | 70
Did I, really? What part of 'organized the resistance' didn't you understand?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:33 utc | 71
Update on Aleppo
https://x.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1862563094976708836
"The situation in Aleppo remains difficult - no illusions there. However, the reports coming from certain media outlets are highly exaggerated.
Now speaking with trusted sources on the ground, it's clear that some militant groups have infiltrated certain neighborhoods and recorded themselves.
The Syrian military reinforcement en route to Aleppo is substantial as confirmed by people traveling from Aleppo to Damascus.
This indicates that the mission isn't just about recovering losses - it's part of a broader offensive campaign.
These insights come directly from battlefield sources and along the M5 highway."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 29 2024 23:35 utc | 72
Iran is where chess was invented. They are thinking 23 moves ahead. I trust they have thought this through, and will act accordingly. No need for advice from arm-chair warriors.
As I've stated previously, Iran's goal is to kick the empire out of west Asia. Afghanistan down, more to go.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:01 utc | 69
Sorry to hear of your loss.
If this is not a phyrric "victory" for the Izzies, I don't know what would be.
Given the information pollution that we are being inundated with, it is hard to know what exactly is going on, but I am not worried. Trying to overturn the board does ("earthquake! earthquake!") not mean you have won the game.
It was the izzies pushing for a "cease fire", the question is why did everybody else go along with it? I assume not out of some affection for the izzies. However getting Lebanon out of the crosshairs would seem like part of it, and the izzies parlous domestic situation as well.
Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 29 2024 23:38 utc | 73
Iran's goal is to kick the empire out of west Asia. Afghanistan down, more to go.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:01 utc | 69
Iran backed the Northern Alliance, who usa paired with in 2002 to occupy Afghanistan.
However, I agree with your sentiment about Iran's responsibilities, much like Russia, they must look after themselves. If anybody should be helping Gaza, it should be the feckless governments of Egypt, Jordan, SA et al.
Posted by: UWDude | Nov 29 2024 23:48 utc | 74
After Hezbollah was hit by the pager attack, Syrian army officers decided to keep using their pagers as if bothing had happened?
Maybe the Israelis are just more clever or the other side is more stupid.
Posted by: Salmon | Nov 29 2024 23:53 utc | 75
@74,
If Egypt, Jordan, Turkiye, SA didn't lift a finger to help them until now, they won't do it in the future. Some of them are big vassals to US empire (Egypt, Jordan, Saudis) and Turkiye has it's own empire dreams in the region.
Palestinian people are really cursed by faith. I really admire them for standing their ground till the end.
Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 23:55 utc | 76
@35 Fred
Hard words, realistic but as you say later we cannot know what is arranged or planned.
Similar Sakineh @69 also.
Others view that Iran will be attacked anyway and so calculates as so, and yet others that Iran (and via Lebanon) will settle into "international accords" .
@ 38 saner
"I am now firmly convinced that Israel's enemies are utter morons"
Maybe try "I am now firmly convinced that Israel's" friends are utterly evil ?
What presents itself is 'traditional' armies and militias against a military machine that is programmed to 'win' by any means. Not even psycho, but calculated. You could not imagine that because we do not think like that, and in fact no one thinks like that, it is based on objectives and the plans calculated and presented by gaming simply get approved. Destructive abilities that might be of use, get approved.
"Israel" and "Israelis" fabricate the narrative used to justify the objectives. That they fascinate and revel in their own abilities and the destruction caused is sickening.
@ 41 @43 Giyane and as @ 44 Fred
I don't know what tech they have or how they test (beyond surveillance tech) , but US and western support is so blatant (as mentioned) that it makes us ask what world/country we are in. It highlights the divide between population and governance to a degree that is not fathomable. The fact that all continues not only demoralises western population but installs a sense of authority over it because "no one impedes" the direction. In other words it is a form of victory over local population, as it occurs at their expense.
@55 Don Firineach
"What next? Bio weapons?"
Maybe "Israel" is a bioweapon.
What I know though is that someone who would kill just one innocent civilian on purpose and without any consideration for their life, would be as able to do the same for 8bn or so people.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 30 2024 0:02 utc | 77
It was the izzies pushing for a "cease fire", the question is why did everybody else go along with it? I assume not out of some affection for the izzies.
Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 29 2024 23:38 utc | 73
Thank you for your reply Bemildred.
My take on the issue of cease-fire is that the resistance can see the frog is slowly boiling, and how the entity needed to lower the temperature, somehow. It is a reprieve in slaughter and is welcomed by the resistance. I agree with others, saying that it won't last long.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 0:16 utc | 78
" Did I, really? What part of 'organized the resistance' didn't you understand?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:33 utc | 71 "
The part where Iran scampers away and pretends like its not a party to the overall conflict. It sounds like that is what you're suggesting it does, hence why I posted the quote. Unless the resistance acts in full concert right now it will be picked off one by one as its currently happening. Additionally, whats Itan scared of, I thought it had a mutual defense treaty with Russia. Isnt it under Russia's nuclear umbrella protection?
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 0:27 utc | 79
Historically the main purpose of the Aleppo headchoppers was to enable the Saudis to partially control Damascus where the re-arrival on Earth of 'Eesa AS, otherwise known as Jesus AS, is expected some time.
According to Alistair Crooke, Trump and Kushner were heavily involved in wooing MbS, so maybe Trump sees in MbS an extreme right wing ally in the Muslim world that he can use for some God-forsaken Fascist purpose, only imaginable by him.
Trump is away with the fairies in some Zionist version of Cloud Cuckoo Land and maybe he thinks the Saudis can help shape an authoritarian version of Islam that can accept Jewish Nazi Law.
The Humanity of the Palestinians like đ Sanwar, seems to trigger violent disgust
in the Nazi imagination. Good to see Trump is pre-deluded by the the sniff of power, even before the US political , to-the-death, Pit Bull, infighting has begun
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 30 2024 0:28 utc | 80
Iran backed the Northern Alliance, who usa paired with in 2002 to occupy Afghanistan.
Posted by: UWDude | Nov 29 2024 23:48 utc | 74
Yes, and what did they get for it? Access-of-evil.
I recall Hillary-Mann and Flynt Leverett on their site Going To Tehran, detailed their work, quite extensively.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 0:28 utc | 82
My advice to the new Potus. When you're already in a hole, Mr President, Sir, BEST TO STOP DIGGING.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 30 2024 0:41 utc | 83
Al Jazeera's Gaza Palestinian reporters are top notch. But their coverage of other ME matters is considerably less so - including Syria, where the politics of the Emir of Qatar can be clearly ascertained. Beware.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 30 2024 1:03 utc | 85
whats Itan[sic] scared of, I thought it had a mutual defense treaty with Russia. Isnt it under Russia's nuclear umbrella protection?
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 0:27 utc | 79
Where would you like to park your nuclear weapon in Tehran?
Will the treaty bring all the dead back?
The treaty is not signed yet, and Iran does not need nuclear umbrella. It has enough conventional weapons to end the entity â the only one screaming about nukes for over 20 years.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:04 utc | 86
So much thoughtful input on the 'ceasefire,' I am grateful for b for providing this thread of many views; I will put in my cents: abierno 48 especially helpful including on asymmetrical warfare; and Scott Ritter gives a glimpse on future for Syrian sovereignty.
On why 'ceasedire', USIZ needed a break from Hezbollah's successful assault on IOA in south; Biden needs an image boost (after 4 years of doing nothing worthwhile and being ignominiously ushered out the WH door); and Hezbollah needs relief for Lebanon from the criminal bombing.
Now on BBC-America pundit being interviewed mentions US-delivered weapons to Turkey for use by Syrian rebels.
Northern Alliance = Genghis Khan ?
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 30 2024 0:45 utc | 84
Giyane, if you recall, the Taliban killed multiple Iranian attaches in Afghanistan. Iran found a convenient way, by working with US, to do away with them â short of going to war, which became a real possiblity.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:15 utc | 88
" Giyane, if you recall, the Taliban killed multiple Iranian attaches in Afghanistan. Iran found a convenient way, by working with US, to do away with them â short of going to war, which became a real possiblity.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:15 utc | 88 "
Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ?
Posted by: Salami | Nov 30 2024 1:32 utc | 89
" The treaty is not signed yet, and Iran does not need nuclear umbrella. It has enough conventional weapons to end the entity â the only one screaming about nukes for over 20 years.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:04 utc | 86 "
Based on the comments here the treaty is a done deal. Also, if you haven't noticed, Israel is not concerned about Irans conventional capabilities.
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 1:35 utc | 90
Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ?
Posted by: Salami | Nov 30 2024 1:32 utc | 89
Salami, link please.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:47 utc | 91
" Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ?
Posted by: Salami | Nov 30 2024 1:32 utc | 89
Salami, link please.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:47 utc | 91 "
" Iranians put their feet on the ground in Bosnia and Herzegovina just six months after the war had started. Iran sent thousands of its IRGC fighters as staff members of Iranâs Red Crescent. This was confessed by brigadier Saeed Kasemy, a field commander in Bosnia and Herzegovina at that time. On June 2, 1994, the Washington Times wrote that 400 fighters of IRGC entered Bosnia in May of 1994, according to intelligence sources.
At that time, some intelligence sources reported that 3,000-4,000 fighters of IRGC were based in Bosnia in addition to 400 fighters of the Lebanese Hezbollah. Most of the Hezbollah fighters came from the Bekah area of Lebanon. They were led by Ali Ahmad Fayadh, who was killed in Khanser, Aleppo, Syria in 2016. Iran established its camps in Zenica and Visoko , during Sarajevo was besieged.
Iran played a key role in the war in Balkan through providing about 200 million USD to Bosnian Islamic groups, which were affiliated with the Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic and the Bosnian Army. A report on âAn investigation into the Iranian arms shipments to Bosniaâ, was released by the US Senate Intelligence Committee on October 9, 1998, stating that Iran was the main supporter of Bosnian militias and the army. According to the report, 30% of the arms of the Bosnian army and militias was provided by Iran.
Meanwhile, the US turned a blind eye on the Iranian support in Bosnia and Herzegovina. US Ambassador to Bosnia and Herzegovina, Peter Galbert said: âOur policy was based on not preventing Iran from arming Bosnians.â. However, the expansion of Iranâs influence in Bosnia was no longer limited to sending arms or armed groups; it went further to training Bosnian intelligence officers, and its influence on security systems was eminently reinforced. As for political influence, the Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic was one of the fans of Khomeniâs revolution and he even participated in the celebration of Iranâs Islamic Revolution during the anniversary back in 1982. Therefore, he was arrested by Serbian authorities as soon as he came back from Tehran. Some reports said that he received financial support from Iran. "
https://www.mena-researchcenter.org/irans-influence-in-bosnia-a-dagger-in-the-flank-of-europe/
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:09 utc | 92
87 Lavieja. "Pundit on BBC news America" is James Jeffrey - former US special representative for Syria Engagement.
âthe US Senate Intelligence Committee on October 9, 1998, stating that Iran was the main supporter of Bosnian militias and the army.â
From the link above. How is that wrecking Bosnia?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 2:21 utc | 94
" From the link above. How is that wrecking Bosnia?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 2:21 utc | 94 "
" Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ? "
There was no " Bosnian" military just a bunch of traitorous backstabbers just like in Syria yet Iran helped them, and by extension, the US to dismember Serbia.
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:39 utc | 95
Israel is not concerned about Irans conventional capabilities.Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 1:35 utc | 90
I feel less intelligent just for having read this. Israel is an impotent theocratic rogue state awaiting ignominous breakup that failed to advance more than 5km against a militia despite complete and unchallenged air superiority. I'm pretty sure the IDF has just about run out of diapers. Maybe you have some inside info?
Pull the other one, it has bells on.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 30 2024 3:12 utc | 96
" I feel less intelligent just for having read this.
Pull the other one, it has bells on.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 30 2024 3:12 utc | 96 "
Why the personal attack. Do you feel threatened by someone else's opinion? Weak sauce.
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 3:37 utc | 97
Some attitudes here remind me of the stories I read when I was a child, about sea voyages: When the storm began to rage, there were always sailors and officers who went crazy, they couldn't process their own fear and they began to look for someone to blame. .
They weren't prepared for death, but instead of staying on land and watching the insects play among the flowers, they got on a boat that wanders in the immensity of the ocean, then they burst into the kitchen trying to kidnap the strange guy to throw him overboard, because he caused the storm that would kill them all...
In reality, anyone can serve as a scapegoat, but their fear is the only thing that remains, they don't know that the storm is the storm and the boat is the boat. The captain knows, and the good officers too, they never stopped adjusting the loose ends.
The people of Iran and Syria are heroic conglomerates of people hardened by permanent tragedy, and they never ever stopped fighting, not even for a single day. The same can be said of Palestine and Yemen.
Those who are at the board know what colour the pieces are, and thanking them for their constant sacrifice is the only correct attitude.
The whole "Middle East" is a big spider web, everything is connected, the fly has to fly to get stuck.
Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:09 utc | 92
The MENA research centre that you ise as a source are very opaque.
They hide any obvious mention of their funding or ownership, are based in Austria, and seem to have a distinct whiff about them.
Do you know any information about who funds, owns, or controls their output?
They just seem "deep state" from an outside observer's position.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 30 2024 4:27 utc | 99
Arch Bungle, what is your best guess as to why Hezbollah is now applying less pressure?
Posted by: Afro | Nov 29 2024 19:02 utc | 42
Rearming. Reorganizing.
That's why immediately after they took the opportunity for a breather, mossad sent its moderate jihadis into Aleppo to break the supply lines to Hezbollah.
As we speak, what do you think resistance movements do during 'ceasefires?
What did Hamas do during the last ceasefire?
What did Hezbollah do after 2006?
That's right ... They rearm and come back stronger.
As for the ploy in Aleppo, causing more chaos in Syria will simply allow more room for Hezbollah operatives to run their smuggling lines.
"Chaos is a ladder" -- Littlefinger
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 30 2024 4:44 utc | 100
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