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November 29, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-286
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Israel is already beginning the process of occupying Lebanon. They have brought in tanks and bulldozers to some areas that Hezbollah prevented the IDF from entering before. They are carrying out demolitions in these areas and blocking the roads.: Posted by: teri | Nov 29 2024 14:09 utc | 1 Earlier in the other thread I said: Posted by: Newbie | Nov 29 2024 14:10 utc | 2 once again, for those who wish to read it, the Lebanon-israel Ceasefire Agreement is at the second link by journalist/analyst Elijah Magnier Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 14:13 utc | 3 It is a strange kind of ceasefire where one side (Hezbollah) has not signed it. Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2024 14:19 utc | 4 It is a strange kind of ceasefire where one side (Hezbollah) has not signed it. Posted by: malenkov | Nov 29 2024 14:32 utc | 5 Things are not going well for Syria. This “surprise” offensive seems to have caught them completely be surprise. Posted by: ctiger | Nov 29 2024 14:47 utc | 6 Today is the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. Posted by: teri | Nov 29 2024 14:57 utc | 8 The attack on Aleppo is the result of the Russians having a deal with the Turks to stop the SAA advance to liberate Idlib a few years ago after Aleppo was liberated, they allowed those terrorist head hackers to leave Aleppo with their weapons on Buses for Idlib, what they should have done is wiped them out now Aleppo is under threat again, will they ever learn what and who they are dealing with? Posted by: Englishman | Nov 29 2024 15:01 utc | 9 @ 9 Posted by: Urban Fox | Nov 29 2024 15:14 utc | 10 @9, Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:23 utc | 11 Before anyone accuses me of being a troll, I’m not saying that losing Aleppo would mean the end of Assad because the guy resisted when the Wahabi scum was at the door of Damascus, but it’s truly shocking how fast the army has disintegrated. Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 12 Hezbollah never agreed to this cessation of hostilities, nor did it disagree. It already signed off on the UN Resolution in 2006. Israel violated that agreement ever since, and Hezbollah only ever acted to reciprocate on each occasion. As distinct from a “ceasefire”, a cessation of hostilities can be announced by one side only, and this is what Israel has done. Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 13 Americans buying Uzbek mercenaries. I think they’ll find them unreliable. Men fighting for dollar bills don’t have the commitment of people fighting for their homes and families. So I’ll be happy to watch America’s pet terrorists have their assholes blown out, again. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 29 2024 15:33 utc | 14 Martyr Qasem Soleimani explains the war in Syria Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 29 2024 15:35 utc | 15 here we go again Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 15:36 utc | 16 Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 15:44 utc | 17 I find it helpful to remember that regardless of the distraction or proxy, the fundamentals have not changed. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 29 2024 15:47 utc | 18 Maybe the ceasefire violation is related to what is happening in Syria. Israel thinks that it has a good change to knock Hezbollah out while Iran/Syria/Russia is focused somewhere else. Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 15:49 utc | 19 Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 15:49 utc | 20 NO one should ever trust an Izzyhell savage about anything for any reason anywhere. I thought that was clear long ago. Now 50+ more dead in Gaza. Reporters wounded. How many dead in Lebanon? How much of the West Bank has Izzyhell stolen while the world was watching the “ceasefire?” How many dead in Syria? Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 29 2024 15:53 utc | 21 BREAKING: Dozens of explosions of walkie-talkies and pagers now comfirmed among the Syrian Army, Mossad is directly aiding the terrorist advance Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 29 2024 16:05 utc | 23 @17 Arch Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 16:07 utc | 24 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 16:13 utc | 25 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 14:13 utc | 3 Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 29 2024 16:16 utc | 26 There are reports of mob action by settler fanatics against IDF troops, with arrests and police breaking up the attacks. Very surprising. Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 29 2024 16:27 utc | 27 Hezbollah Secretary General Sheikh Naim Qassem speaking – you can watch live: Posted by: JB | Nov 29 2024 16:47 utc | 28 Hezbollah needs to respond to every single IDF attack in kind……..if the IDF is shelling their villages in the south of the Litani River, then Hezbollah should shell or rocket Kiryat Shimona……….. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 29 2024 17:24 utc | 29 It’s funny to see people hyperventilating about this raid, given what happened to Hamas. Posted by: Satepestage | Nov 29 2024 17:44 utc | 30 Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1: Posted by: Dave | Nov 29 2024 17:52 utc | 31 Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 15:32 utc | 13 Posted by: juliania | Nov 29 2024 17:54 utc | 32 The battlefields will decide everything. Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 29 2024 17:55 utc | 33 Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 17:57 utc | 34 The ceasefire is like everything. Israel does what it wants and if there is a response it crys victim. Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 18:02 utc | 35 Find it hard to believe that the pagers/cellphones wouldn’t be checked after the hezbolah ones went boom. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 29 2024 18:10 utc | 36 Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 29 2024 17:24 utc | 29 “Hezbollah needs to respond to every single IDF attack in kind” Posted by: Ed4 | Nov 29 2024 18:21 utc | 37 Going to post this again; Posted by: saner | Nov 29 2024 18:28 utc | 38 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Nov 29 2024 18:36 utc | 39 … Nope!, Hezbollah is abiding to the ceasefire after more than 2 days and only will abandon it if the zionists break it forcefully, even after some shooting, bombing and detaining of Lebaneses Hezbollah by the zionists they are not responding. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 29 2024 18:45 utc | 40 Ornot 39 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 18:56 utc | 41 Arch Bungle, what is your best guess as to why Hezbollah is now applying less pressure? Posted by: Afro | Nov 29 2024 19:02 utc | 42 These vaporising bombs , a man of Trump’s calibre would not be able to understand the Gospels statement that every hair on our bodies is counted. Nor the same message in the Qur’an, that God knows everything and it is all recorded in the smallest details. Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 19:25 utc | 43 Ornot #39. Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 19:36 utc | 44 Arch Bungle 40 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 19:36 utc | 45 In August, the Americans articulated two policy positions which have informed the framework of this week’s ceasefire. Posted by: jayc | Nov 29 2024 19:40 utc | 46 The Lebanese goverment tested the bunker bunker weapons strikes for anomolies. The results were not released. The EU sent multiple teams to test the bunker bust strikes in Lebanon. Their results were suppose to be released this month November. Posted by: Fred | Nov 29 2024 19:49 utc | 47 The current situation in West Asia needs to be reviewed in a larger context: Israel is on the ropes – billions in damages to civilian and/or business properties; no security guarantees; no plan for hostage return, billions in death and health benefits to Israeli families of the vaunted IOF/IDF et. al.; international pariah with many supposedly “friendly” countries such as Australia blocking visits by high ranking Israelis. Posted by: abierno | Nov 29 2024 20:20 utc | 48 Ummm maybe the alt-media community needs a reality check. Basically all pundits on “our” side were claiming that Hezbollah’s missile arsenal was formidable, and that the IDF would get their asses handed to them were they to invade Lebanon. Now the story is not black-and-white, and I’m willing to believe that the Hezbollah troops fought hard. And yet: *The Izzie Air Force seems to have complete freedom of action. Nobody expected Hezbollah to have much air defense beyond maybe some MANPADS which can harrass evac helicopters etc, but it seems they can’t really touch Israeli airfields and planes either. Sure their missiles did some damage, but nothing to military/energy/leadership targets that would’ve made a real difference. *In contrast, the Izzies went apes on Lebanon’s infrastructure, like we all knew they would, and Hezbollah apparently saw itself forced to accept mediation. As written, the deal gives Israel most of what it wants; how could it be otherwise, given that it was negotiated/imposed by the (((American))) Amos Hochstein. (BRICS or any other player are nowhere to be seen, seems this is still Washington’s playground at the hour of truth.) Please let me know if I’m wrong about any/all of these. Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Nov 29 2024 20:31 utc | 49 The ceasefire is a sham with the Zionists still kidnapping Lebanese folk off the streets, of course Hezbollah is a proscribed organistion – so the Zionists can claim that they were acting against terrorism – however one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:48 utc | 50 We know for sure that the UK and the USA will not honour the ICC’s warrants. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:52 utc | 51 Biden – MUST be standing in the dock at the Hague next to Netanyahu, Starmer, Scholz and many other countries leaders and generals – for aiding and abetting in genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 29 2024 20:56 utc | 52 The Americans, however, have lost their “soft power”, which was their ultimate weapon. Posted by: Satepestage | Nov 29 2024 20:57 utc | 53 uh oh Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 21:01 utc | 54 @Ornot | Nov 29 2024 18:36 utc | 39 Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 29 2024 21:08 utc | 55 Ritter has on Erdogan in Syria. Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 29 2024 21:12 utc | 56 Republicofscotland 50 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 29 2024 21:30 utc | 57 “…all those zionists who claimed that Hamas are “terrorist jihadists who behead babies” are now cheering for actual terrorist jihadists…” Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 21:41 utc | 58 Amarynth at Global South is running a page on the Syria situation. Posted by: Grieved | Nov 29 2024 21:49 utc | 59 How to “democratically” avoid adressing the Palestine question, UK style… Posted by: Red Star | Nov 29 2024 21:50 utc | 60 RE: Apologies, all, in particular to Trubind1: Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 29 2024 22:39 utc | 61 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iT9thYgaGI Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 29 2024 22:40 utc | 62 ” Russia and Iran will stabilize Syria. Posted by: Salami | Nov 29 2024 22:44 utc | 63 on the Libanon ceasefire, did anybody have a look on Thierry Meyssan’s view (see recent video on his site and ‘Courrier des strateges’ website) ? Posted by: Dany | Nov 29 2024 22:45 utc | 64 There is a crap ton of fog of war in Syria with Aleppo right now. A lot of fairly reliable (or used to be) TG are in panic attack that all is lost in the city but there are other videos and an official Syrian channel (SANA) that mentions that everything is under control inside the city for the SAA. It really resembles the first few days of the Kursk offensive. Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 22:47 utc | 65 ” The US could well start to incinerate Sanaa and ukrainian ladies would still have dreamy eyes about the USA. Posted by: Salami | Nov 29 2024 22:47 utc | 66 RE: Erdogan stands only for Turkey. Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 29 2024 22:56 utc | 67 supporting fronts, including the Houthis in Yemen, and the Iraqi militias, are still active against israel. And there’s a pending response from Iran Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 29 2024 22:57 utc | 68 I keep reading, Iran this, and Iran that. Iran should do this, or Iran should do that. Or, Iran didn’t do this or that. Why is it Iran’s responsibility to stop the genocide? It’s not Iran that’s committing the mass-slaughter. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:01 utc | 69 ” Iran has done yeoman’s work to counter, by organizing the resistance. Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 29 2024 23:27 utc | 70 Your comment misses the point totally. Heres a quote for you. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 29 2024 23:33 utc | 71 Update on Aleppo Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 29 2024 23:35 utc | 72 Iran is where chess was invented. They are thinking 23 moves ahead. I trust they have thought this through, and will act accordingly. No need for advice from arm-chair warriors. Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 29 2024 23:38 utc | 73 Iran’s goal is to kick the empire out of west Asia. Afghanistan down, more to go. Posted by: UWDude | Nov 29 2024 23:48 utc | 74 After Hezbollah was hit by the pager attack, Syrian army officers decided to keep using their pagers as if bothing had happened? Posted by: Salmon | Nov 29 2024 23:53 utc | 75 @74, Posted by: JamesBond | Nov 29 2024 23:55 utc | 76 @35 Fred Posted by: Ornot | Nov 30 2024 0:02 utc | 77 It was the izzies pushing for a “cease fire”, the question is why did everybody else go along with it? I assume not out of some affection for the izzies. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 0:16 utc | 78 ” Did I, really? What part of ‘organized the resistance’ didn’t you understand? Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 0:27 utc | 79 Historically the main purpose of the Aleppo headchoppers was to enable the Saudis to partially control Damascus where the re-arrival on Earth of ‘Eesa AS, otherwise known as Jesus AS, is expected some time. Posted by: Giyane | Nov 30 2024 0:28 utc | 80 Iran backed the Northern Alliance, who usa paired with in 2002 to occupy Afghanistan. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 0:28 utc | 82 My advice to the new Potus. When you’re already in a hole, Mr President, Sir, BEST TO STOP DIGGING. Posted by: Giyane | Nov 30 2024 0:41 utc | 83 Al Jazeera’s Gaza Palestinian reporters are top notch. But their coverage of other ME matters is considerably less so – including Syria, where the politics of the Emir of Qatar can be clearly ascertained. Beware. Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 30 2024 1:03 utc | 85 whats Itan[sic] scared of, I thought it had a mutual defense treaty with Russia. Isnt it under Russia’s nuclear umbrella protection? Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:04 utc | 86 So much thoughtful input on the ‘ceasefire,’ I am grateful for b for providing this thread of many views; I will put in my cents: abierno 48 especially helpful including on asymmetrical warfare; and Scott Ritter gives a glimpse on future for Syrian sovereignty. Northern Alliance = Genghis Khan ? Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:15 utc | 88 ” Giyane, if you recall, the Taliban killed multiple Iranian attaches in Afghanistan. Iran found a convenient way, by working with US, to do away with them – short of going to war, which became a real possiblity. Posted by: Salami | Nov 30 2024 1:32 utc | 89 ” The treaty is not signed yet, and Iran does not need nuclear umbrella. It has enough conventional weapons to end the entity – the only one screaming about nukes for over 20 years. Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 1:35 utc | 90 Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ? Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 1:47 utc | 91 ” Why did Iran contribute fighters and support to destroy Serbia ? Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:09 utc | 92 87 Lavieja. “Pundit on BBC news America” is James Jeffrey – former US special representative for Syria Engagement. “the US Senate Intelligence Committee on October 9, 1998, stating that Iran was the main supporter of Bosnian militias and the army.” Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 30 2024 2:21 utc | 94 ” From the link above. How is that wrecking Bosnia? Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:39 utc | 95
I feel less intelligent just for having read this. Israel is an impotent theocratic rogue state awaiting ignominous breakup that failed to advance more than 5km against a militia despite complete and unchallenged air superiority. I’m pretty sure the IDF has just about run out of diapers. Maybe you have some inside info? Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Nov 30 2024 3:12 utc | 96 ” I feel less intelligent just for having read this. Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 3:37 utc | 97 Posted by: Amon Ra | Nov 30 2024 2:09 utc | 92 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 30 2024 4:27 utc | 98 Arch Bungle, what is your best guess as to why Hezbollah is now applying less pressure? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 30 2024 4:44 utc | 99 ‘When I Was In Gaza I Felt Like It Was The Prelude To The End Of Humanity’ (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 30 2024 5:25 utc | 100 |
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