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November 24, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-283
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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‘Machine Guns and Hand Grenades’ – Resistance Roundup – Day 416 Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 3:42 utc | 101 Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 26 2024 3:34 utc | 101 Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 26 2024 3:56 utc | 103 Go read the 20 statements at Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 4:08 utc | 104 If Al-Manar is to be believed, then Hezbollah is putting forth Nabih Berri and Najib Mikati to act as their proxies. This means Hezbollah is in effect agreeing to the ceasefire as Western MSM suggests, which is in contradiction to Fred’s view that Hezbollah would never agree to a ceasefire without achieving their goals. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 4:15 utc | 105 Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 3:42 utc | 102 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 4:19 utc | 106 ‘Israel’ chose door number two (naked genocide) Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 26 2024 5:16 utc | 107 Wrong. Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 5:27 utc | 108 Bibi’s pyrrhic victory. Ho hum Posted by: BadDealMotorsOn | Nov 26 2024 5:45 utc | 109 Well no offence that sounds like copium, akin to the Ukrainian flavour. If this ceasefire pans out then Hezbollah has cried uncle before Israel. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 6:22 utc | 110 Nominating Nabih Berri and Najib Mikati as proxies is a bad sign in the first place. They’re ones who made the Lebanese government and military useless as a sovereign actor … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 6:28 utc | 111 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 6:22 utc | 111 Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 8:10 utc | 112 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 6:28 utc | 112 Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 8:21 utc | 113 https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1861296167180493310 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 26 2024 8:28 utc | 114 Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 8:21 utc | 114 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 9:19 utc | 115 Hezbollah launched sustained missile and drone strikes on Israel, demonstrating its ability to enforce a deterrence equation designed to influence Israeli consciousness and expose the growing power of Hezbollah. This force continues to defy efforts to “eliminate” it, both within and outside Lebanon…. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 9:23 utc | 116 Al Manar Live Feed for previous 24 hours Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 10:21 utc | 117 Re: IDF KIA/WIA ? Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 10:27 utc | 118 Please read this and take a moment to reflect: Posted by: JB | Nov 26 2024 11:27 utc | 119 Pritti Patel, the Cunts’ Cunt’s cunt is probably made from HDPE. Posted by: Giyane | Nov 26 2024 11:46 utc | 120 The rumours you are all hearing about a “ceasefire” are actually a psy-op. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 11:52 utc | 121 I’m far from being as well informed as some of you, exile, Arch Bungle, Michael72, and others, but to me this so called cease fire smells a lot like the Minsk Agreement. As y’all recall, France and Germany promised to enforce the agreement, but did nothing. Later Merkel and Macron admitted, or was it bragged? that they never had any intention of keeping the agreement but were just buying time for country 404. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 26 2024 11:52 utc | 122 I’m far from being as well informed as some of you, exile, Arch Bungle, Michael72, and others, but to me this so called cease fire smells a lot like the Minsk Agreement. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 11:55 utc | 123 @Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 11:52 utc | 122 Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 26 2024 12:43 utc | 124 So what happened to all those Arab countries that swore they had 400,000 (or some huge number like that) troops they would send to fight Israel if it invaded Lebanon and didn’t end the genocide in Gaza? Didn’t Iraq, Syria, Iran, etc. promise they would over-fun the IDF troops? What happened to that? Posted by: teri | Nov 26 2024 13:40 utc | 125 @Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 11:52 utc | 122 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 13:58 utc | 126 @122 Arch Bungle Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Nov 26 2024 14:08 utc | 127 “Pritti Patel, the Cunts’ Cunt’s cunt is probably made from HDPE.” teri 126 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 26 2024 14:17 utc | 130 Let’s wait and see. Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 26 2024 14:18 utc | 131 canuck 130 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 26 2024 14:30 utc | 132 Israel has now erased 1410 Palestinian families entirely. That means that there is not a single family member left alive. (The last time I saw the reported number was some months ago and it was around 900-1000 families completely annihilated at that time.) There are now 3463 families that only have one surviving member. Posted by: teri | Nov 26 2024 14:32 utc | 133 “We are at 3 mins to Armaggeddon midnight, solely because of US stupidity.” If Hezbollah agree with a ceasefire that does not include a ceasefire in Gaza, then Bibi will achieve the goals he had said they would achieve when ordered a full attack on Lebanon: Posted by: Dave | Nov 26 2024 15:10 utc | 135 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 11:52 utc | 122 Posted by: Meh | Nov 26 2024 15:11 utc | 136 https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1860760394211422231 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 26 2024 15:28 utc | 137 https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1861386390090490131 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 26 2024 15:48 utc | 138
Berri (pro-Resistance) is the Speaker of the Lebanese parliament, and Mikati (oligarch) is the PM. Since Hezbollah tries to operate within the Lebanese national consensus, these two are ‘nationally acceptable’ negotiators. Likely Berri will veto whatever capitulationist nonsense Mikati puts forward.. Posted by: LongT1me | Nov 26 2024 16:13 utc | 139 Hezbollah Strikes Key Israeli Positions, Halts Border Advance, Forces Retreats Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 16:19 utc | 140 @ michaelj72 | Nov 26 2024 15:48 utc | 139 Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 26 2024 16:58 utc | 141 As y’all recall, France and Germany promised to enforce the agreement, but did nothing. Later Merkel and Macron admitted, or was it bragged? that they never had any intention of keeping the agreement … Posted by: Gene Poole | Nov 26 2024 17:09 utc | 142 ” Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 26 2024 18:14 utc | 143 Winnipeg Plant One of Largest F-35 Parts Producers in Canada Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 18:15 utc | 144 “That sounds like an erotic joke.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 26 2024 18:15 utc | 145 Bibi Nosferatu speaks about a ceasefire deal with Lebanon to be presented to the Israeli cabinet. Says it will allow USrael to ‘concentrate on Iran’. Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 18:24 utc | 146 @146 DGH Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 18:26 utc | 147 Berri (pro-Resistance) is the Speaker of the Lebanese parliament, and Mikati (oligarch) is the PM. Since Hezbollah tries to operate within the Lebanese national consensus, these two are ‘nationally acceptable’ negotiators. Likely Berri will veto whatever capitulationist nonsense Mikati puts forward.. Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 18:32 utc | 148 An example of the kind of propaganda occuring within Lebanon : Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 18:40 utc | 149 125… could be read as any”percieved threat” Posted by: Jo | Nov 26 2024 18:41 utc | 150 “@146 DGH Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 26 2024 18:47 utc | 151 Thank you Arch, Hezbolah will never accept the ceasefire.False news… Posted by: stranger | Nov 26 2024 18:49 utc | 152 Ceasefire without even mentioning Gaza? A stillborn. Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 26 2024 19:07 utc | 153 Israel is Bombing 20 Residential Buildings Now Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 19:09 utc | 154 US president speach in one hour. Will guess on this as it is all pivotal… at least it will be a reminder of some kind : Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 19:15 utc | 155 Ornot 130 Posted by: Giyane | Nov 26 2024 19:17 utc | 156 There are few specific details on the “ceasefire” available. Nothing has yet been finalized. Word in Israel suggests the proposed agreement contains language hindering Israel from further military actions in Lebanese territory – which would be a significant concession. The 60-day duration effectively delivers this mess to the Trump admin. Posted by: jayc | Nov 26 2024 19:18 utc | 157 @152 Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 19:32 utc | 158 Spell check is a back door to your politics, switch it off, same as youtube. Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 26 2024 19:40 utc | 159 The ceasefire is just another sick warped psychopathic mind game trick. Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 26 2024 19:50 utc | 160 “Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan acknowledged Hezbollah’s role, stating ‘Any announcement of a cease-fire in Lebanon pleases us because Hezbollah stood by our people and made great sacrifices.’ Read my article…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 19:54 utc | 162 US politicians are probably afraid of being prosecuted themselves. The US Constant Warfare State has killed a vast numbers of people since 1950 or so. The recent blood letting in Ukraine and in Gaza are more of the same, unfortunately. Posted by: lester | Nov 26 2024 19:56 utc | 163 Netanyahu just said something about the “ceasefire deal” with Lebanon, but it sounds like he is actually (surprise!) talking about a private deal between the US and Israel regarding Lebanon. Netanyahu does not mention Hezbollah agreeing to anything. Posted by: teri | Nov 26 2024 20:04 utc | 164 Netanyahu Signed ‘Surrender Deal’ with Hezbollah? Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 20:16 utc | 166 And furthermore, regarding Lebanon-Israel “cease-fire”, it appears, according to MEE, that the cease-fire is not for the length of 60 days, but BEGINS within 60 days. I have not seen anywhere an actual text of this supposed cease-fire, but nothing I have read about it mentions Gaza at all. Posted by: teri | Nov 26 2024 20:16 utc | 167 @157 Giyane Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 20:18 utc | 168 Repeat of post up thread …. Posted by: Exile | Nov 26 2024 20:19 utc | 169 Everyone should support ending the carnage in Lebanon. Posted by: JB | Nov 26 2024 20:23 utc | 170 “Israel’s main message to Lebanon continues to be: dear Lebanon, please have a civil war to make it easier to destroy your country, thanks…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 20:37 utc | 172
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/12823 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 20:41 utc | 173
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 20:45 utc | 174 Even the words ‘ free hand to do what it likes in Israel ‘ is a lie. Israel is commanded by Washington to destroy Lebanon in exactly the same way that the US has destroyed Syria. Posted by: Giyane | Nov 26 2024 20:47 utc | 175 Beirut under constant bombing raids from the Zionists. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 26 2024 20:49 utc | 176 Ceasefire Between Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Israel Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 26 2024 20:51 utc | 177 “Hezbollah Ceasefire Agreement Terms, a Return to the Status-Quo before October 7th 2023” Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 26 2024 20:53 utc | 178 Assal Rad Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 20:56 utc | 179 Arya – آریا Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 20:57 utc | 180 Arya – آریا Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 20:58 utc | 181 Abubaker Abed Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 20:59 utc | 182 U.S. officials who hated “woke” investing won’t stop buying Israel Bonds Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 21:02 utc | 183 “Note – I generally update around 2300 US West Coast Time” Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 26 2024 21:04 utc | 185 November 25, 2024 Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 186 So far a ceasefire is an announcement/portrayal by “Israel”, US, France and elements of the government of Lebanon. Posted by: Ornot | Nov 26 2024 21:05 utc | 187 There are certain constants in the world. Posted by: Suresh | Nov 26 2024 21:06 utc | 188 Abubaker Abed Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 21:06 utc | 189 Bibi’s stated reasons for accepting ceasefire: Netanyahu: So why establish a ceasefire now? Posted by: dp | Nov 26 2024 21:08 utc | 190 Matt Kennard Posted by: Menz | Nov 26 2024 21:08 utc | 191
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/135310 Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 21:15 utc | 192 Der Iran lässt die “Achse des Widerstands” fallen, wahrscheinlich als von Moskau verlangte Gegenleistung für russische Waffenlieferungen und strategische Abmachungen mit Russland. Hisbollah muss deshalb seine Kriegshandlungen einstellen und lässt Hamas fallen. Die irakischen Milizen und die Huthis können jetzt auch ihre Sachen packen. Westbank und Gaza werden Israel als Geschenk überlassen. Posted by: frillo | Nov 26 2024 21:23 utc | 193 An example of the kind of propaganda occuring within Lebanon : Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 21:25 utc | 194 Posted by: frillo | Nov 26 2024 21:23 utc | 194 Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 26 2024 21:25 utc | 195 Once started, I don’t give this “ceasefire” 2 weeks. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:33 utc | 196 Israel wants to conquer Lebanon by turning it into a parking lot similar to what it has done in Gaza. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:36 utc | 197 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 26 2024 21:33 utc | 197 Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 26 2024 21:37 utc | 198 Lv Isr Posted by: Jo | Nov 26 2024 21:37 utc | 199 From Press TV Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 26 2024 21:37 utc | 200 |
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