Palestine Open Thread 2024-283
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From Al Manar this morning for me
15:45 Israeli media: 200 rockets have been launched from Lebanon towards northern and central ‘Israel’ since this morning
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 24 2024 15:46 utc | 2
IV @1
You could use an IV shot of compassion. Peace on earth, brother. It's not nice to look on others as shitstains: seriously that is just calling others what you see in the mirror and letting the rest of us know about it.
Posted by: Share | Nov 24 2024 16:06 utc | 4
"IV @1
You could use an IV shot of compassion. Peace on earth, brother. It's not nice to look on others as shitstains: seriously that is just calling others what you see in the mirror and letting the rest of us know about it."
Posted by: Share | Nov 24 2024 16:06 utc | 5
Well done; another way of describing it is: the Freudian ego defense mechanism called, 'projection'.
@1 this is exactly what nazis used to say about Jews :)
Anyway, complicated weather today in occupied Palestine. It's raining hezb rockets.
Posted by: Animal | Nov 24 2024 17:19 utc | 6
Does 'Israel' finish itself off first?
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old June posting (edited)
"Every civilization carries the seed of it's own destruction."
- Mark Twain
Which camp takes the most one-way flights out of Israel via the Ben Gurion airport?
Have we witnessed the first early shots of an upcoming Israeli Civil War?
A harbinger of a war decades or years away? Or faster?
21 June 2024 |The Collapse of Zionism| |
A first indicator is the fracturing of Israeli Jewish society. At present it is composed of two rival camps which are unable to find common ground. The rift stems from the anomalies of defining Judaism as nationalism. While Jewish identity in Israel has sometimes seemed little more than a subject of theoretical debate between religious and secular factions, it has now become a struggle over the character of the public sphere and the state itself. This is being fought not only in the media but also in the streets.One camp can be termed the ‘State of Israel’. It comprises more secular, liberal and mostly but not exclusively middle-class European Jews and their descendants, who were instrumental in establishing the state in 1948 and remained hegemonic within it until the end of the last century. Make no mistake, their advocacy of ‘liberal democratic values’ does not affect their commitment to the apartheid system which is imposed, in various ways, on all Palestinians living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Their basic wish is for Jewish citizens to live in a democratic and pluralist society from which Arabs are excluded.
The other camp is the ‘State of Judea’, which developed among the settlers of the occupied West Bank. It enjoys increasing levels of support within the country and constitutes the electoral base that secured Netanyahu’s victory in the November 2022 elections. Its influence in the upper echelons of the Israeli army and security services is growing exponentially. The State of Judea wants Israel to become a theocracy that stretches over the entirety of historical Palestine. To achieve this, it is determined to reduce the number of Palestinians to a bare minimum, and it is contemplating the construction of a Third Temple in place of al-Aqsa. Its members believe this will enable them to renew the golden era of the Biblical Kingdoms. For them, secular Jews are as heretical as the Palestinians if they refuse to join in this endeavour.
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-collapse-of-zionism
Two camps in the fracturing Israeli society. Above the two camps are labeled ‘State of Israel’ and ‘State of Judea’.
Will Israel turn it's militancy inwards before or only after it has subdued all external enemies?
The ‘State of Judea’ camp wants to rule Israel as a theocracy by it's own version of Jewish Law.
A vision and theocracy that demands it control all of historical Palestine.
October 7th was the Sabbath and also a Jewish holiday, the observant and also the Religious Zionists -- the ‘State of Judea’ camp --
would choose to be in synagogues that day. Thousands of hedonists from the ‘State of Israel’ camp would head to a 'free love', Brazilian-style, trance rave party
located within earshot of Gaza.
Israel had Hamas' detailed plan for it's prison break. The plan indicated that it would take place on a Jewish holiday or the Sabbath,
October 7th was both.
The Rave Party was relocated just two days before October 7th and situated between Gaza and the Re'im military base on Route 232.
The Re'im military base was a target specifically named in the Hamas plan, a plan that Israel had captured. Hamas, traveling along Route 232
towards the military base, would have to pass by the Rave party.
Haaretz (Israel's paper of record):
"In private conversations, some officers in the Gaza Division told of irregular conduct and pressure surrounding the approval of the party [Rave]".
The officer normally charged with approving/disapproving events such as the party had disapproved it as, "an unnecessary security risk".
But, in an unusual move, he was overruled by higher ups at division headquarters.
Half the IDF forces around Gaza were on leave because of the Jewish holiday. 100 commandos were moved away from around Gaza to the West Bank on the same day
that the Rave party was relocated, October 5th.
[Question, which camp was more likely to have taken leave on the Sabbath and Jewish holiday?]
In the weeks and months before October 7th there was much intelligence information had by the Israelis that said an attack from Gaza was imminent.
In the early morning hours of October 7th there was a top level command meeting because of concerning Hamas activity. No one thought to alert the Rave party
revelers nor demand that they disperse.
After Hamas escaped Gaza the police blocked the exits to the Rave party and set up road blocks in both directions of Route 232.
This caused a massive traffic jam of revelers trying to flee.
They became sitting ducks for Hamas and Israeli Apache attack helicopters, helicopters which emptied their weapons
on the Rave Party and then returned to base to reload and return again.
The casualties from Hamas and the Hannibal Directive enabled the shouted goals that the ‘State of Judea’ camp has sought -
to cleanse Israel and rule over all of historical Palestine.
Have we witnessed a harbinger of a violent internal conflict to come?
Instead of LIHOP or MIHOP was it a sucker punch (SP) to the secular faction of 'Israel'?
SP
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Which camp takes the most one-way flights out of Israel via the Ben Gurion airport?
https://forward.com/news/581271/israelis-leaving-country-war-safety-abroad/
Posted by: librul | Nov 24 2024 17:23 utc | 7
@Posted by: librul | Nov 24 2024 17:23 utc | 8
The intentional provocation - colonists invading the al Aqsa - took place
just a handful of days before the location of the Rave Party was decided.
So much took place that first seven days of October.
Posted by: librul | Nov 24 2024 17:33 utc | 8
How many Hazelnuts does Russia need to give Syria or Iran?
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 24 2024 17:40 utc | 9
Posted by: Israel Victorious! | Nov 24 2024 15:28 utc | 1
Have you checked the news today?
Tel Aviv and Haifa hit with so many missiles they're starting to resemble downtown Beirut 🤣
Better stop holding back Shlomo!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 24 2024 17:42 utc | 10
librul 8
The split in Israeli society isn't as described by the New Left article.
The article is exactly like a Guardian puff piece, trying to appear informative but Making It Up AS They Go. MIUATG.
Ben Dver and SmutStrut are Nazi, Khazar Nationalists, same as NutJob . They haven't got a religious bone in their bodies. Their eschatology is like Hitler building Stone Circles for Aryan mythology. These people don't want Jewish Law, they want Land and Power.
Ordinary , left-wing European Israelis want to practise their religion and culture, without the hassle of encountering Palestinians , or Christian Europeans from their countries of origin.
Netanyahu's Nazis are forcing the Lefties to fight Palestinians, which they detest. They're fighting them with clothes pegs on their noses because it pisses them off to engage with Arabs, and to have to obey Nazis.
Netanyahu is following a USUK Globalist Imperial agenda nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism or Zionism except as slogans for Imperial rape and pillage.
Netanyahu is destroying both Judaism and Israel for Western, atheist, materialist psychosis and Paranoid Islamophobia.
The majority
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2024 18:20 utc | 11
Even as we speak, Houthis and Iranians are busy making their own Hazelnuts.
Posted by: chola3 | Nov 24 2024 18:52 utc | 12
Now that the "Thank you, Dr. Fauci." video is starting to gain traction, does anyone know what serum was in the Israeli Covid-19 vaccine, since Israel was so (apparently) Vaccine addicted?
Did they take the Pfizer goo, or did they take a saline shot while they tried to get the rest of the world to poison themselves.
Their methods are clear once you figure out the Pager trick.
And don't forget their God absolves them.
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 24 2024 18:53 utc | 13
A smear campaign is underway, against the ICC’s chief prosecutor Karim Khan – it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out why.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2024 19:03 utc | 14
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 24 2024 19:03 utc | 15
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Typical Western smear campaign.
IIRC, ICC determinations are made by a panel of 3 judges. Khan wields little power himself.
Distract everyone via personal attacks, never discuss the substance or record.
To be under the effects of Zionist propaganda is to completely immersed in ignorance AND dissonance.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2024 19:27 utc | 15
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1860591853931819123
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel is not bombing #Hezbollah but invading, destroying #Lebanon and attacking and killing the Lebanese people.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1860473153060782266
Sulaiman Ahmed @ShaykhSulaiman
The Israeli ambassador to the UN on Sky: "There is no starvation in Gaza"
The Israeli ambassador to the UN is also a WAR CRIMINAL
see the photos at the link:
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1860361326230634676
sarah @sahouraxo
Israel killed this entire Lebanese family in Beirut today by dropping bunker buster bombs on their heads while they slept.
All of them civilians.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2024 20:02 utc | 16
https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1860715264410550412
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
Israel is bombing civilian buildings in Lebanon, with no military objective except to terrorize the Lebanese people. War crime after war crime by wanted war criminals. Report here by Craig Murray, Scottish journalist and former UK diplomat:
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1860591853931819123
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel is not bombing #Hezbollah but invading, destroying #Lebanon and attacking and killing the Lebanese people.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 24 2024 20:22 utc | 17
I also don't want Netanyahoo before the ICC.
Mussolini and Hitler didn't stand trial and both got a happy ending story.
Not too many people in the world would mind if we skip the bureaucracy and get straight to the point.
Posted by: Ed Bernays | Nov 24 2024 20:24 utc | 18
Does anyone know if Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israeli fighter jets on the ground?
Posted by: aquileia | Nov 24 2024 20:35 utc | 19
Does anyone know if Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israeli fighter jets on the ground?
Posted by: aquileia
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The Lebanese have numerous times attacked IDF Airbases. The Yemenis ditto.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 24 2024 20:47 utc | 20
reply to 8
I fear we are underestimating how horrific Israel is. Sure, it's nice to hypothesize about how Justice and good sense prevail in some nebulous, undefined way. Yeah, right.
The reality is that more secular types emigrate from Israel and leave the 'settler' lunatics behind. So, in spite of all decency, Netanyahu survives .... and flourishes. Israel deepens in its morally bankrupt behavior: genocide, anal rape, torture, whatever. Far from reforming, it gets worse.
It is a sad thing to see Yet Another Ukraine situation in which a destructive leader can't be removed - because of widespread fanaticism. The US is headed towards the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner with the Israel albatross hung around its neck. Toss Trump into the mix and God only knows where this ends up but 'abandon all hope' that it ends soon.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 24 2024 21:02 utc | 21
"I also don't want Netanyahoo before the ICC.
Mussolini and Hitler didn't stand trial and both got a happy ending story.''"
Posted by: Ed Bernays | Nov 24 2024 20:24 utc | 19
Obviously you never saw the movie, "Adolf Hitler's Great Escape" (2015) (1) where Hitler, Eva Braun and various Nazis decamped to South America after escaping Berlin...
1. https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Adolf-Hitlers-Great-Escape/0OO2DTPVS7JLLW7BDCZICGZT8C
Eighthman, unfortunately the "more secular types" who are scampering will just go right ahead and squat and steal where ever they end up, because, as we know, they are "chosen" and don't want to associate with riffraff goyim other than to enslave them. They don't make a secret of this. Librul, very interesting points. Thanks.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 24 2024 21:45 utc | 23
I remembered a joke.
What does a Zionist say after having sex?
"Was it good for the Jews?".
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 24 2024 21:54 utc | 24
Is it Sunday in the US? The day the Church celebrates it's Death Cult by drinking its god's blood, before massacring Communists or Muslims?
I see a time very soon that the US will swivel its eyes against us Europeans.
In fact it already has, Nordstream.
Nothing to do with Netanyahu who is merely playing the demon that is the US.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2024 22:21 utc | 25
canuck 23
I used to work in an organization that had a 8x10 inch black and white glossy photo of Hitler sitting on a wicker chair with a parrot on his shoulder in its classified safes. Ran into it by accident when its folder came out with the one I needed to work with. So, yes, the "Western" three letter agencies definitely knew Hitler lived and where he was. Probably was assisted by them.
Posted by: ramAustralia | Nov 24 2024 22:29 utc | 26
Eighthman 25
You got that joke wrong. The joke is an American who says he's never had any complaints from male or female about being satisfied by his sexual performance.
That is what the US is, an entirely self- obsessed individual that is constantly performing its power over everything else , purely to satisfy itself.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 24 2024 22:30 utc | 27
It seems quite clear to me that Israel is not fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon. They are trying to de-populate Lebanon as they have Gaza.
That is why they keep hitting civilian targets.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2024 22:44 utc | 28
LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2024 22:44 utc | 29
*** It seems quite clear to me that Israel is not fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon. They are trying to de-populate Lebanon as they have Gaza.
That is why they keep hitting civilian targets.***
Yes, because what is now called "Lebanon" is to be part of the New Khazarian Reich.
..... aka, Greater Israel.
Along with big chunks of Iraq, Syria, Iran and perhaps Jordan.
With former "Ukraine" as its largely depopulated colony.
Parts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia might be added later.
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 24 2024 23:10 utc | 29
Posted by: Cynic | Nov 24 2024 23:10 utc | 30
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I have been repeatedly assured by some regular patrons at MoA that Trump is for "peace".
A piece of Lebanon, a piece of Jordan, and a piece of Syria.
I was hoping Iran would put Israel in its place but the wounded animal is irreversibly bleeding out so ...
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 24 2024 23:16 utc | 30
26. Unless you eat his body and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Posted by: Kansas | Nov 24 2024 23:55 utc | 31
Over 500 food and medicine relief trucks are required per DAY to keep the civilians in Gaza alive......and yet the IDF is allowing less than 100 per day to enter.....
And with winter approaching most Palestinians are living in tents or partially destroyed buildings with no reliable heat sources and very little food, a deliberate attempt to murder the entire population.....
And where is the US and President Joementia?? Silent as a church mouse.....no air drops.....no complaints to Bibi.....nothing......as Joe slips into insanity and Palestinian children starve to death every single day....
And you wonder why Bibi and Galant were indicted by the ICC???????????????????
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 24 2024 23:56 utc | 32
Judaism seems to be a wonderfully convenient form of worship. It's the only 'religion' I'm aware of that encourages devotees to worship themselves.
And that's not the best part.
The most delightful aspect of this arrangement is that if a devotee wants to converse with G-d, it need only gaze into a mirror for the chat to begin.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 25 2024 0:08 utc | 33
Wondering about AIPAC/Zionism and
Why in the hell are our politicians so damn crazy?
Supporting a massive #genocide that's been live-streamed daily?
Why do US senators falll on their knees when Netanyahu comes to Washington? Is it because of allthe #Bribes the #senators in both parties from #AIPAC?
Could sinister honeytrap/blackmail operations be part of the reason?
Was Epstein's operation just a tiny tip of a big Zionist iceberg of similar operations?
If your drinks/food were spiked by Zionist Deep State who got U stoned out of your mind on Viagra & God Knows What else ---- and if they put a few of their child sex slaves & cameras in your luxury suite.... Would they own you too?
Have Zionist ruling elite held western keys to power for centuries? Have they been working sub rosa thru the church & state... using endless wars to keep the people divided, upset & oblivious to the Zionist ruling elite?
Those supporting Netanyahu, please learn more!
Atrocity Inc: How Israel Sells Its Destruction Of Gaza
Max Blumenthal's new documentary take down of the media deceptions & hoaxes Israel pushed to manufacture consent for its genocidal attack on Gaza...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEurGy05ps&rco=1
Note to Genocide & Endless war supporters: Karma can be heaven, purgatory or hell... ~12-15% of westerners have severe & profound handicaps. Many are born with them. It's not a coincidence! FA & FO!
The teachings on Reincarnation/Karma were banned from Rome's church teachings/the bible in 553 by Rome's emporer. Are western nations actually ruled by Families that go that far back?
Posted by: Toby C | Nov 25 2024 0:18 utc | 34
Two camps in the fracturing Israeli society. Above the two camps are labeled ‘State of Israel’ and ‘State of Judea’.
Posted by: librul | Nov 24 2024 17:23 utc | 8
Brian: Excuse me. Are you the Judean People's Front?
Reg: Fuck off! 'Judean People's Front'. We're the People's Front of Judea! 'Judean People's Front'.
Francis: Wankers.
Now seriously, yes there seems to be a big cleavage in terms of lineages between israelli and judean, but best discussed in the open thread (it a long long term thing. Israelli might have their apex in 20 years, jews will have to wait for 2300's
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 25 2024 0:20 utc | 35
@ Kansas | Nov 24 2024 23:55 utc | 32
Ah, Holy Mother Church! The only religion that would torture and execute you for not believing that cannibalism (not metaphorical cannibalism, mind you, but the real thing) was necessary for salvation…
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 25 2024 0:29 utc | 36
"Unless you eat his body and drink his blood, you have no life in you."
Posted by: Kansas | Nov 24 2024 23:55 utc | 32
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Thank you, Kansas. Some ignoramuses prefer to be spiritually dead. Let them. For my part, I did go to holy Communion today, and did receive the BODY, BLOOD, SOUL, DIVINITY of Jesus Christ, my Saviour - under the form of a small consecrated Wafer of Bread. (Funny; I do not feel compelled to massacre anyone.)
Some people post the most stupid idiocy.
Posted by: hispanidad | Nov 25 2024 0:37 utc | 37
Post #1 might be right. If they finish the job both USA and Israel are isolated. Once the glee wears off you are stuck with the repercussions. This is the acid test for Trump. Will he cement in the isolation of the USA as a genocide warmonger or cut a deal? We will know soon if they dont start WW3 before he can get in. Any true friend of Israel will stop them. Try to blame it on Nutty and somehow move on.
Posted by: perfectemundo | Nov 25 2024 1:24 utc | 38
"Judaism seems to be a wonderfully convenient form of worship. It's the only 'religion' I'm aware of that encourages devotees to worship themselves."
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 25 2024 0:08 utc | 34
Quite profound, thanks!
Posted by: Israel Victorious! | Nov 24 2024 15:28 utc | 1
You are quite the murderous little hate-filled sewer rat.
You, and all your kin will be taking the Samsonite option, and I'd advise doing it before your chief fluffer (Trump) assumes the token role of head idiot for the failed empire.
Ps. Sorry for feeding the trolls, barflies.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Nov 25 2024 1:46 utc | 40
"canuck 23
I used to work in an organization that had a 8x10 inch black and white glossy photo of Hitler sitting on a wicker chair with a parrot on his shoulder in its classified safes. Ran into it by accident when its folder came out with the one I needed to work with. So, yes, the "Western" three letter agencies definitely knew Hitler lived and where he was. Probably was assisted by them."
Posted by: ramAustralia | Nov 24 2024 22:29 utc | 27
I don't know what happened , perhaps Hitler was shot in Berlin in 45, but I am always quite cynical about the MSM storyline in any subject.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 25 2024 0:29 utc | 37
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Blood worship is a pagan thing introduced by the Romans. Christianity is an interesting synthesis of many different beliefs.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 2:15 utc | 42
I doubt the conspiracies that Hitler survived for long. He had severe Parkinson's at the end, for one.
Posted by: Afro | Nov 25 2024 2:24 utc | 43
Posted by: perfectemundo | Nov 25 2024 1:24 utc | 39
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Trump, the consummate deal maker, has returned to a world where he has little in his power to offer.
The Russians no longer need America. The Chinese have embarked on the path of needing America less.
The Arabs have reconciled with Iran (most don't appreciate the magnitude of this) after China brokered new relationships.
The Arabs are also under tremendous domestic pressure due to the American genocide of Palestine, and their past friendly relations with America.
All Trump can offer Russia is no NATO for Ukraine, when he doesn't control NATO anymore, and it was a primary objective for the SMO. Maybe Trump can deliver hundreds of Ukrainian Nazis for public war crimes trials, but that is starting to sound like science fiction, in my opinion.
All Trump can offer the Arabs is a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. That was the demand from the Saudis to continue normalization via the Abraham Accords.
I'd love to read informed ideas of what Trump can work on, and how. Anyone who offers something, please remember that the Axis knows that Trump must make major deliveries immediately as no one will trust the next American Admin to observe Trump's agreements or commitments.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 2:26 utc | 44
Posted by: canuck | Nov 24 2024 21:18 utc | 23
This from a review of the movie:
I am a Hitler historian. I presented my PhD on Hilters last days. This documentary is a fakeumentary. It is from beginning to end foolishness. It's just this flabby necked writer and director speaking for 90 minutes on unfounded "evidence" that Hitler escaped to Argentina. He also swallows a lot which is highly disconcerting. Please miss this factually crazy facumentary on why Hitler escaped. He didn't escape. In fact, his burnt skullcap was found in the grave outside of his bunker. How do I know? I was part of the 2011 DNA testing that determined that the skull was from Hitler. It has a 99.8% accuracy. So maybe Hitler escaped with a missing skull. So very silly.
Allegedly dentition analysis also confirmed it:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hitlers-teeth-confirm-he-died-1945-180969133/
But then there is also this:
https://abcnews.go.com/WN/hitler-skull-russian-secret-service-custody/story?id=9288287
So perhaps the mystery remains.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 25 2024 2:52 utc | 45
So maybe Hitler escaped with a missing skull.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 25 2024 2:52 utc | 46
I could swear I have seen him posting here often :D
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 25 2024 2:59 utc | 46
Posted by: perfectemundo | Nov 25 2024 1:24 utc | 39
Trump will double down on Genocide Joe's support of the Zionist terror state abroad and the enforcement of new anti-free speech laws such as the "Antisemitism Awareness Act" (already passed the House) and the "Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act" (which has also passed the House).
Expect a new wave of repressive crackdowns both at street level law enforcement (protests and speech) and the administrative/funding level (denying federal funds or tax-exempt status to universities and non-profits) against pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel individuals, groups and organizations.
https://x.com/guychristensen_/status/1786550772206821385
https://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-alison-weir-critics-of-israel-say-know-answer/288697/
https://x.com/guychristensen_/status/1856587018110742621
I also expect the continued use of programs like "Open Skies" which was created during the first Trump term, and has been weaponized by the Biden administration against people like Tulsi Gabbard.
This will be a very interesting 4 years for Americans and a very terrible one for the Palestinians. The US government was, is and looks like will always be controlled by the Zionist parasite.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 25 2024 3:01 utc | 47
@ Newbie | Nov 25 2024 2:59 utc | 47
Congratulations! You just won the thread 🎉👏🏻
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 25 2024 3:02 utc | 48
michaelj72 | Nov 24 2024 20:02 utc | 17
Are the names of israeli pilots known to the ROW? If not, some ´traitor´ in Israel with conscience, ought to gather these and spread wide. They are criminals, cannot hide behind "I followed the orders of our fuehrer". Several pilots have resigned some time ago, if I remember correctlz´y.
Posted by: fanto | Nov 25 2024 3:21 utc | 49
@ Newbie | Nov 25 2024 2:59 utc | 47
Congratulations! You just won the thread 🎉👏🏻
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 25 2024 3:02 utc | 49
Thank you , but to atone for an empty post can I present the following case?
1. Under normal circumstances , given the losing candidates in the first run, we should expect a win up to 2/3 on the second round
2. Euroceptic, worse! NATO skeptic and evil Russia denier
I’m taking bets on his adversary getting at least 52% anyway , anything it takes
He is Romania’s last hope of not getting bombed as strikes flow from his country
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 25 2024 3:28 utc | 50
I used to work in an organization that had a 8x10 inch black and white glossy photo of Hitler sitting on a wicker chair with a parrot on his shoulder in its classified safes. Ran into it by accident when its folder came out with the one I needed to work with. So, yes, the "Western" three letter agencies definitely knew Hitler lived and where he was. Probably was assisted by them.Posted by: ramAustralia | Nov 24 2024 22:29 utc | 27
I can't even read the comment section here at MoA anymore FFS. Bernard's articles are great but it's no wonder people don't take this site seriously with all the crazy nutjob comments everyday. I sincerely hope this is satire.
Posted by: George Smiley | Nov 25 2024 3:33 utc | 51
Exceptional Day – Resistance Roundup – Day 415
….(excerpt)…As the Rafah axis is becoming active again, Resistance operations are now spanning the entirety of the Strip.Today, Al-Qassam announced the killing of ten Israeli soldiers “at point-blank range” on University Street in the Al-Jeneina neighborhood, east of Rafah city.
Meanwhile in Lebanon, Hezbollah has managed to destroy 11 Israeli Merkava tanks, six at all axes of fighting and five in the town of Bayada alone.
All of this happened within the context of the largest Hezbollah rocket attack on Israeli targets throughout the country, reaching military bases as far as central Israel.
It is estimated that Hezbollah has fired 340 missiles towards Israel in one day, though sirens continue to sound throughout the country at the writing of this report.
Below are the latest statements by the two main Resistance forces in Gaza, and the Lebanese Resistance Movement Hezbollah. ….
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/exceptional-day-resistance-roundup-day-415/
Comment - videos plus long list of strategic targets stuck in addition to the many firefights.
Merkava Tally as of Sunday night
local time
276destroyed (added 11)
706 approximate damaged (unchanged)
Posted by: Exile | Nov 25 2024 3:38 utc | 52
I am an addicted bayern and kastvweek I bought a VW van. It said it had a speed limiter and the mileage wasn't excessively high. This is the image West presents of itself - fair wear and tear but otherwise sound.
When I went to buy it , it was knackered, the limiter must have been removed , the van odometer clocked annually and sold on to innocent buyers.
USUKIS NEVER abide by international law.
But ebay really supports buyers who are being conned. So it must be possible in a Capitalist , Market system to police the Lies. In Britain we used to have a parliament in which lies could be exposed and ridiculed. In Britain ebay is managed from Germany. I am constantly impressed by their fairness in an unfair world.
Trump cannot rescue the US from the Zionist lobby without allies. But both Germany and France have all been politically parasitised by USUK through the EU. Italy and Greece, Poland and the
rest as well.
USUK have plenty of honest thinkers. No country is completely immoral, even Israel. But we will have to seize power from our mafia lawmongers. If Trump could actually facilitate that this time, he would be doing the world a great service.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 4:44 utc | 53
I am an addicted Ebayer and last week I bought a VW van. Sorry
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 4:47 utc | 54
Israel now resembles a drain-hole around which the entire Western Civilisation is circling.
Horrific to watch, but fascinating nonetheless ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 25 2024 5:21 utc | 55
Arch Bungle 56
How many decades have we been told that Israel wants to destroy Western Civilisation and replace it the Jewish Law? And now it's happening you're just going to sit on a breadcrumb and enjoy the Grand Canyon pleasure ride?
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 5:34 utc | 56
you're just going to sit on a breadcrumb and enjoy the Grand Canyon pleasure ride?
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 5:34 utc | 57
Pretty much, yes but from as safe a distance as possible, given the available options.
The best you can do when war comes is get out of the way.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 25 2024 5:47 utc | 57
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1860733278837231786
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Hezbollah issues a straightforward warning: Beirut versus Tel Aviv.
Hezbollah prove it can negotiate under fire; has an immense firepower; telling Israel and pro-US in #Lebanon it is stronger than ever. All redlines have been crossed.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1860728018886443325
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#BreakingNews:
Tel Aviv bombed for the fifth time today. Millions r in shelters.
Missiles available
Secure storage
Perfect comms harmony
Deterrence imposed
Hezbollah leadership is more aggressive than ever
Hezbollah is determined that it cannot be defeated and Israel cannot win.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 5:51 utc | 58
@ Exile | Nov 25 2024 3:38 utc | 53 with the reported....thanks
"
It is estimated that Hezbollah has fired 340 missiles towards Israel in one day, though sirens continue to sound throughout the country at the writing of this report.
"
How much more of this can Occupied Palestine take?
Two months more of this?
And then what?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2024 6:10 utc | 59
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 5:34 utc | 57
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This was all written, and no human can change it.
That doesn't mean we do nothing but it does mean that we have to remember our place.
The Zionists should not occupy our minds, just as no flag or "ism" should dominate our focus. We know why we are here, and what we've been tasked to do.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 25 2024 6:29 utc | 60
Meyssan believes Iran has withdrawn from the conflict.
But Ansarullah are making a little noise about Saudi inaction.
$1000 oil, from another Aramco strike, should bring peace damn fast.
Posted by: necromancer | Nov 25 2024 7:23 utc | 61
Re: How much more of this can Occupied Palestine take?
By way of answer a few data points and no conclusion:
1) IDF weekend warriors are now required to be active duty for 60 days instead of 45 days. Rule of thumb for combat is after 60 days of continious combat - effectiveness drops off dramatically and after 90 days the individual soldier is useless. It’s becoming somewhat clear that the already poorly trained IDF ground forces are making errors caused by combat fatigue
2) Lebanese, Iraqi, Yemani, and Gaza rockets and drones are aimed at strategic targets (Military HQ, Airfields, weapons factories, harbors, and training centers). These rockets while impressive on social media, have relatively small explosive power. I recalls many of them have warheads of ~200kgs. ( please correct me if I‘m wrong) . Hard to say if these strikes are disruptive or destructive in a big way.
3) The Likud schools Israelis from nursery school onwards to be obsessively terrified of outsiders. To repeat - absolutely Terrified of Outsiders. There is also plenty of schooling about getting-out-early-and-saving-ones-skin. The Likud uses this getting out early training to promote immigration to the safety of Israel. what happens when Israel is no longer perceived to be safe ? Does the getting-out-early training have the reverse effect ?
4) Israeli society is racked with divisions, intercine fighting, racist pecking order of hierarchy, and shocking levels of corruption. Outsiders get only a tiny glimpse of these brutal internal struggles.
5) see first post in this thread above - the Likudniks really do believe that they only need to hold out for a few more months and Trump will reduce them by a deus ex machine move…..
No conclusions just a few data points.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 25 2024 7:55 utc | 62
Trump will RESCUE them by a deus ex machine move
(Dang auto correct )
Posted by: Exile | Nov 25 2024 7:57 utc | 63
meanwhile back at the ranch
https://x.com/malsaafin/status/1860860299072463213
Mohammad Alsaafin @malsaafin
Dr Abu Safiyya has refused to abandon his patients and staff even as his hospital has been under sustained siege and bombardment for almost two months. The Israeli army killed his 8 year old son just outside the hospital a few weeks ago.
https://x.com/malsaafin/status/1860860299072463213
Mosab Abu Toha @MosabAbuToha
Volunteer doctors and nurses in Kamal Odwan Hospital, including critically-wounded Dr. Hossam Abu Safiyya, hold a protest inside the hospital against the non-stop fatal attacks on the hospital and patients and doctors.
see the 33-second video at the link:
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1860275817009315879
Khalissee @Kahlissee
🇮🇱 An Israeli settler with a SWORD attacks a PREGNANT Palestinian woman and her children in Jerusalem.
Racism permeates this society
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 8:14 utc | 64
‘Ryan Rozbiani
@RyanRozbiani
Nov 23
Israel has the World's Only CHILDREN Military Prison.
They are then routinely beaten, tortured, and r۸ped!
The courts have a conviction rate of 99.7%’
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Yo! HasbaRats.
Any left here? Seems a bit quiet.
Maybe a bit distracted to troll.
Maybe finally heard my warnings and advise to Get The Fuck Out Before It’s Too Late!
It Nearly IS.
This early Monday morning , I’d just like to acknowedge that you ain’t forgotten.
How are you liking living underground in your stinky rat holes?
Must be getting pungent, like your stinky pants from shitting yourselves every few hours with sirens going off eh? The missiles…
Welcome to the daily hell that your victims have endured for 80 years.
Dontcha worry. Soon be over. They will be free.
You on the other hand have to Exodus, carrying what you can and what you hide in your stomachs. Hey won’t be too long before some Resistance version of hazelnuts come knocking on your deepest holes. For sure.
Florida sunshine is calling. Or is it Argentine isolation that appeals?
Britains not ‘gammon’ white enough for your tastes now…at a guess?
Canada is big enough to hide a tribe in isolation go join the Nazi banderist blackface dancing Turdeau?
Manny the Bankers Macaroon’s, belle France?
Maybe back to the Fatherland?
Now bereft of industry, cheap assets to be picked up.
Awaits ressurection, again, as it did in 30 & 45?
They’ll help you all the way Back to the Original Nest.
Near at least to the ancient Khazarian Empire. The Crimean Dreams now never to be reborn.
The Bankers have stolen - cheaply bought - most of the black soil, under cover of war.
Further fertilised with minced to the Last Ukrops; they never can return to demand THEIR illegally stolen lands from Blackrocks and Monsanto’s Finks.
What can a poor xenophobic colonialist illegal Apartheid Entity Zionist Fascist Settler do?
Where to find a home from home? Who will let them in?
Drumpffs your Man, he’ll let the largest believers of Zionism in the world - the Yankee Christian’s - show their charity!
After all they have paid $billions every year of its existence to make that Zionist Dream Apocalypse Come True; with their funding and military supporting the settler Vampyre blood lust.
Wherever- doesn’t matter, as long as they are returned from their illegal ratholes.
Their Palestinian victims, lame and raped children and adults, blinking out of their concentration camps and nightmare decades - will have justice and Peace.
https://nitter.poast.org/RyanRozbiani/status/1860337513400815948
‘Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده
@RamAbdu
Gaza has become home to the largest group of amputee children in modern history.
Every day, 10 children lose one or both of their legs. #GazaGenocide’
They will LIVE and KNOW
They are finally Free.
Fron Rivers To The Sea
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 25 2024 8:20 utc | 65
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1860836653306106170
ADAM @AdameMedia
🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump will SANCTION human rights lawyer Karim Khan over the International Criminal Court’s arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu.
Disgraceful.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1860900194814148651
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand
Insane... Biden called Macron to tell him that Netanyahu had "a right to be angry" at France for suggesting it'd abide by its obligations to the ICC.
You cannot possibly better illustrate how rogue and destructive the US has become: pressuring its "allies" to renege on international law and basic morality in order to keep perpetuating one of the worst crimes against humanity of modern times.
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1860903797935001958
ADAM @AdameMedia
This is how a tyrant talks to its vassal.
America is not Europe's ally — a lesson learned too late, if at all.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-starmer-arrest-netanyahu-economy-b2652482.html
Donald Trump ally warns Keir Starmer the US will ‘crush’ the UK economy if it helps arrest Benjamin Netanyahu
Senator Lindsey Graham hit out at US allies warning they should not comply with the warrant for the Israeli leader issued by the ICC......
....Senator Lindsey Graham said the US should “crush” the economies of all those who comply with the warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC).....
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 8:46 utc | 66
Exile | Nov 24 2024 20:47 utc | 21
The Lebanese have numerous times attacked IDF Airbases. The Yemenis ditto.
Wikipedia says Israel has 280 combat aircraft. Hezbollah has fired thousands of missiles and drones so far. I wonder if they could focus on those combat aircraft and destroy all of them. Without airplanes, the Israelis can't continue their genocide or the attacks on Lebanon. Maybe they keep them in hardened hangars that Lebanese missiles can't penetrate.
Posted by: aquileia | Nov 25 2024 9:18 utc | 67
Netanyahu’s arrest warrant is just the beginning | Clare Daly interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFEFFuW75JI [13 mins
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 25 2024 10:21 utc | 68
LoveDonbass 61
An -ism has become a fake slogan.
Zionism now means genocide. Whoever is a Zionist is also now a genocidist.
The Bolsheviks became genocidists
The Capitalists became genocidists.
The Salafists became genocidists.
The humanists became genocidists.
It would be so much easier in polite conversation just to mention it.
"Morning mate, I'm a genocidist, 2 litres of milk and one brown bread for my genocidist children."
" Yes, sir. Good thing you mentioned that because we don't serve customers who love human beings. It's against our religion to serve them. Which -sm do you belong to, sir? "
" Can't remember mate, they change so often. I do watch the News sometimes , just to check what one we're supposed to be on. I think the current plan is to exterminate everyone. Leaflet came the other day for Pure Cremation. Nuke everyone."
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 25 2024 10:33 utc | 69
Craig Murray - independent journalism from Lebanon needs crowdfunding, spread the word and add some money folks. The world must hear and see about the modern daily dozen Guernicas. Stop the Holocaust.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/independent-and-true-reporting-of-israels-attack-on-lebanon
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 25 2024 12:22 utc | 70
Netanyahu Seeks Trial Delay following ICC Arrest Warrant for War Crimes
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/netanyahu-seeks-trial-delay-following-icc-arrest-warrant-for-war-crimes/
According to Israeli public broadcaster KAN, Netanyahu’s attorneys emphasized that the Prime Minister’s responsibilities in managing “Israel’s” security and defense during the current wartime situation prevent him from fully engaging in trial preparations.
Posted by: mmi | Nov 25 2024 13:05 utc | 72
Please note the use of the word "may" in this. Still, even to suggest such a visit is pretty brazen - it's Israel just spitting in the eyes of the world:
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Israeli Army Radio reports that former Israeli defence minister, Yoav Gallant, is set to travel to the US, less than a week after the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for him, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and leading Hamas figure Mohammed Deif.
The ICC accuses Netanyahu and Gallant of using starvation as a method of warfare as well as crimes against humanity of murder, persecution and other inhumane acts.
US officials have mostly rejected the ruling, and the US is not a state party to the ICC, meaning it does not have to comply with the arrest warrant.
Posted by: teri | Nov 25 2024 13:18 utc | 73
Thought experiment.
Will Trump's promised tariffs also be applied against Israel?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 25 2024 14:23 utc | 74
A sort take on the "imminent Lebanon ceasefire".
US announces "Israel" concedes to ceasefire proposal and that Lebanon is close to accepting.
It seems as a setup, because it includes Hezballah ceasefire and withdrawal to Litani and replacement by Lebanese army, under US supervision, with "Israel" granted a right to act at will if ceasefire is breached.
It is framed so that Hezballah refuses to accept (normally) but Lebanese government accepts, so making Hezballah take full responsibility for "Israel's" continued invasion.
This is aimed at sowing civil and political discord, possibly even divisive to implement a western backed civil war between Lebanese government and Hezballah.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 25 2024 15:35 utc | 75
@76 Ornot "A sort take"="A short take"
Repeating the set of local Palestine links....
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 25 2024 15:39 utc | 76
https://x.com/codepink/status/1860408504399319311
CODEPINK @codepink
80% of martyred Palestinians in Gaza whose deaths have been confirmed were killed in residential buildings.
Israel is massacring people in homes and shelters.
Genocide laid bare.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/one-third-american-jewish-teens-say-they-sympathise-hamas-israeli-government-poll-shows
One-third of Jewish-American teens say they 'sympathise' with Hamas, Israeli government poll shows
Survey shows 66 percent of Jewish teens in US say they sympathise with the Palestinian people
More than one-third of American-Jewish teenagers between the ages of 14 and 18 agree with the statement, "I sympathise with Hamas" - more than a year into Israel's war on Gaza, according to a new poll released by an Israeli government ministry.
The survey by Israel's Ministry for Diaspora Affairs and Combating Antisemitism found that 36.7 percent of American-Jewish teens either "agreed" or "strongly agreed" to the statement, "I sympathise with Hamas", Israeli media reported on Thursday.
The number contrasted sharply with the seven percent of Jewish teens living outside of the US who agreed with that statement......
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 16:20 utc | 77
https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1860780166177267778
Mohamad Safa @mhdksafa
Number of Journalists killed in wars
Vietnam: 63 journalists in 20 years
World War II: 67 journalists in 7 years
Gaza & Lebanon: 193 journalists in 1 year
This violates Article 79 of Additional Protocol I Geneva Conventions, but international law clearly doesn’t apply to Israel
https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1860266077495894505
Pelham @Resist_05
Every single politician that has supported this genocidal regime should be hauled to The Hague and imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1856865954472264117
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
Up to 700 Palestinian children have been kidnapped each year for decades; held hostages by an unlawful occupation who saw in them a threat in the making. Tormented often beyond the breaking point, generations of Palestinians will carry the scars and trauma from the Israeli mass incarceration system.
The absurdity of thinking how much int'l diplomacy has normalised this situation by continuing to invoke the "resumption of negotiations" between the "parties" to "achieve a durable solution", is exposed.
https://t.me/stayfreeworld/35948
Stay Free
🏴☠🇺🇸⚔🇱🇧 UNIFIL: Attacks targeting Lebanese Armed Forces on Lebanese territory constitute a flagrant violation of Resolution 1701 and international humanitarian law
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 17:19 utc | 78
Your allowed to question Israels genocide in the USA if you have blue hair and hate Putin. That filter is acceptable. It is not a product of genuine critical thinking and empathy but a function of total meme acceptance and subjugation. Critical thinking and genuine empathy is in fact completely rejected by the filter. The perspective that all individuals and organizations should be judged by their actions and a acceptance of the court as a unbiased assessment of actions that ensures the quality of justice is not present and is rejected. The court itself is biased the arrest warrants for Putin a joke.
If you attempt to educate these people about Bidens and Nulands obvious and self admitted creation of the war in 2014 the filter kicks in. All of those facts are rejected. Putin is white dictator persecuting the poor Ukrainians. Netanyahoo is a dictator persecuting poor Palestinians. It is only from within the rigid model of judgment not acceptance that the condemnation of war arises from the neo crusadors.
Israel genocide is not rejected by the blue hair crowd because they reject crusadors. They love the new crusades in which they determine for the entire world how to live. Every aspect of their life is conformed rigidly to a prepared standard of exceptionalism which they rigidly promote as a personal standard with zero deviation. Critical thinking and freedom of self determination is in fact implicitly rejected. They dont reject war they embrace it. War is in fact the preferred way of domination and they would have no problem with every last individual that does not accept their artificial model dieing.
The genocide in Gaza and Lebanon is different from the war in Ukraine but both are contrary to justice. In the USA what is lacking is a genuine anti war movement that is a function of respect for all cultures and beliefs. The right tolerates the slaughter of Muslims. The left tolerates the slaughter of Slavs.
Where are the extra 20 million votes that appeared in the 2020 election? Simple those were only needed for the slaughter of Slavs the culmination of Bidens project in Ukraine. Now we are back to the tried and true slaughter of Muslims so those 20 million votes didnt appear. They will only be needed again if the regime needs to flip yet again to Slav slaughter or to inject a new experimental technology into the populations bodies. Now we return to "freedom" Its not mandatory to inject things into your body or mutilate your child's genitalia. Is support for the Israel genocide really such a hard price to pay for such wonderful "freedom"? Both the right and the left are cowards and pussys. Genocide is not ok.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 25 2024 18:07 utc | 79
Another big push today by the Biden administration towards a “ceasefire” deal, this time for Lebanon. Relying on anonymous sources, western media outlets are touting the imminence of approval from Israel’s government. Several times over the past year the Americans have attempted to rush forward deals which do not have the assent of either party. In these reports, no Lebanese source is referred commenting directly on any presumed agreement.
Of note, the Americans and French are touted as the “guarantors”. Last week the French Defense minister floated the insertion of French troops into south Lebanon to assist disarming Hezbollah. This would make the proposed deal more of the immediate implementation of UNSC1701 than a 60-day ceasefire. That is, Hezbollah would be “disarmed” and moved back to the north side of the Litani, while Israel after 60 days could presumedly restart its bombing campaign. No relevant Lebanese official has voiced approval of such a scenario.
Posted by: jayc | Nov 25 2024 19:05 utc | 80
In Memory Of The Martyr Yahya Sinwar (After 40 Days)
Sinwar died but he did it. He did it. Things are working out as he said. As Sinwar said, when he could go outside,
"Within a limited period of months, I estimate it will not exceed a year, we will make the occupation have two options. Either we force it to implement international law, respect international resolutions, withdraw from the West Bank and Jerusalem and dismantle the settlements. release the hostages and return the refugees, either we and the world force it to do these matters and achieve the establishment of a Palestinian state on the lands occupied in 1967, including Jerusalem... Or we place this occupation in a state of contradiction and collision with the entire international will and isolate it and end its state of integration in the region and in the entire world and the state of collapse that occurred on all fronts of resistance and on all fronts that occurred during past years."
What Sinwar is saying (that people misinterpret) is that there is either a two-state solution along 1976 borders or a one-state solution of Palestine. That 'Israel' will fall into a state of contradiction and collapse and disintegrate. Which is precisely what's happening. 'Israel' chose door number two (naked genocide) which leads to the condemnation of all nations, preserved only temporarily by the coercion of a dying hegemon (America). 'Israel' cannot exist in this state much longer and will either fall on its own or fall when America falls, whichever comes first. This echoes the martyred founder of Hamas Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, who said, “to be precise, I say that by 2027, there will be no Israel.” These men both died, but their strategy, backed by heroic acts, lives on. They believed it while it was unbelievable, but who today believes that 'Israel' can go on like this? They got a country because genocide and they're losing it because genocide, they're going out the way they came.
https://indi.ca/in-memory-of-the-martyr-yahya-sinwar-after-40-days/
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 25 2024 19:10 utc | 81
On what carrier does Gallant intend to travel to the US?
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 25 2024 19:11 utc | 82
I lifted this from an MSM comment.
Why doesn't Israel want to be the 51st state?
Because then they'd only have two Senators.
Posted by: Ed | Nov 25 2024 19:14 utc | 83
Bribe someone in Beirut to accept a peace agreement sans Hizbollah that says Hizbollah goes away and Israel North border is the Litani. USA guarantees. USA troops attempt to destroy Hizbollah and its all legal moral and ethical meanwhile the whole issue- genocide in Gaza- continues. If the genocide in Gaza was to stop the war on the north border would stop. USA directly participates in the genocide under something called a ceasefire while a real ceasefire in Gaza called for by the court is ignored and ridiculed. Over and over again. Buy some politicians where you want to use force put some cheesy two bit legal authority in place and voila. Only now its done to allow a clear and undeniable genocide defined as such by a international court that considered all evidence. Now the ICC and ICJ are trrists too boom just like that. cuz we say so. USA sons and daughters start coming home in body bags. Will the fathers and mothers be able to convince themselves that this was for justice for peace?
Yes the international community should get involved. Israel should leave Gaza and a international peacekeeping force should guarantee safety of both Israel and Palestine. That would be just. That would work toward peace. This was always about greater Israel. Two weeks before oct 7 Hootenanny displayed a map of greater Israel with no gaza west bank and north to the Litani at the UN. Now the USA gets to do the heavy lifting. The whole world gets to see the USA support the genocide.
This is Americas legacy? This is our values? This flys with no pushback? This is in the USAs interest?
LIHOP for greater Israel. Everyone knows it. Genocide. You can spray fabreeze on it all you want the world know. Everyone knows this time.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 25 2024 20:13 utc | 84
The number contrasted sharply with the seven percent of Jewish teens living outside of the US who agreed with that statement......
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 25 2024 16:20 utc | 78
Since most of all the other Jews in the world live in Israel, that statement is meaningless.
Posted by: JAB | Nov 25 2024 20:24 utc | 85
Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 25 2024 8:20 utc | 66
''Their Palestinian victims, lame and raped children and adults, blinking out of their concentration camps and nightmare decades - will have justice and Peace.
They will LIVE and KNOW
They are finally Free.
Fron Rivers To The Sea''
Thank you for this one and all the other posts of yours, dear DG.
I was moved deeply so- that after a year of clenching my fists in absolute rage and being nearly mute with anger, I felt tears and I cried like a big baby.Silently.
I aqgree with everything, this is the end of zionist garbage.
And they will pay.Oh, yes.
Thank you to Exile, Love Donbass, Arch B., all who are right, on the good side of this terrible story.
For all of you and b. as well: Fairuz, the legend of Arabs, nightingale, Ana la habibi, I am not your love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UAMf21kPk4
Thank you all, hang on...
Posted by: stranger | Nov 25 2024 20:49 utc | 86
Priti Patel outdoes the Washington Post ...
Priti Patel lambasted for condemnation of Netanyahu arrest warrant in the UK parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReD7PEGM_iE [8 mins
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 25 2024 20:52 utc | 87
Patel is freaky given her past
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Uganda
Also in Spain Sanchez is being rounded on, and though I have little opinion of him and corruption is no surprise, it would also not be surprising either if the amplification of a local scandal to include him (i.e. not dis-include him) was related to Palestine.
https://madridpress.com/upload/images/10_2024/6930_ps-aldama.png
'They' write the text as they like, because they have plenty to go with, and in fact financial corruption is a 'mere misdemeanor' compared to genocide, and compared to the wider lack of moral standing of many politicians...including Sanchez, in spite of attempting to take a position on Palestine, which has appeared as opportunistic to many.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 25 2024 21:58 utc | 88
The only thing that can save Israel now is direct intervention of Western troops on the ground.
Coalition of the 'willing' time again ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 25 2024 23:41 utc | 89
Where is Iran's revenge in response to Israel's attacks of 26 Oct?
Posted by: ReinhardvonSiegfried | Nov 26 2024 1:18 utc | 90
Evidence that 'Israel' is in the process of catastrophic collapse:
"Hezbollah guerrilla forces prove more powerful than IDF tank groupings."
In a notable development, the Israeli army withdrew from the town of Biyyadah on Sunday following an attack on Merkava tanks by Hezbollah forces. It is notable that the 'IDF', with all its heavy machinery, surveillance technology and air support is driven out of locations for any period of time by small formations of guerrilla forces.
This suggests a military which would essentially be naked without an overwhelming equipment advantage. Man for man, they are not the equal of the Hezbollah fighter.
Exhibit 12 of 1000:
"The occupier publicly attempts to strangle the media. The occupier's own media glories the occupied."
Israeli government sanctions Haaretz, severs all ties. The decision comes in response to comments made by the newspaper's publisher referring to Palestinian 'freedom fighters'.
Exhibit 11 of 1000:
"Extremist 'Settler'-on-Army Violence. The Colonizers turn on their own defenders."
Extremist settlers (and they're all extremists and all colonizers) are attacking the very IDF soldiers put there to protect them and facilitate colonization of Palestinian land.
Scott Ritter raised a very interesting point yesterday: If any non-Western country had exhibited the problems listed in this post they would have been deemed by the West to be on the brink of collapse. It is only because 'Israel' is being referred to that the West ignores these accumulating cracks in the fragile construction that is 'Israel'.
Exhibit 10 of 1000:
"Increasing single-attack IDF casualty counts."
Over the past 3 weeks Hezbollah in South Lebanon and AQB in Gaza have engaged IDF groupings in direct combat and inflicted the highest single-attack casualties in more than 1 year.
For Hamas and Hezbollah to still be capable of inflicting casualties against the IDF in direct firefights indicates the IDF has not made any advances in their ground-fighting capabilities.
This is gradually turning into a classic war of attrition, which the IDF does not have the manpower to sustain.
Exhibit 9 of 1000:
"Loss of material political credibility in the eyes of Western institutions"
Loss of Israeli credibility of both it's leaders and narrative among the elite institutions of the West. The issuance of ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Gallant, coupled with the public rectification by Dutch politicians of the role israeli soccer hooligans played in the football violence of November 2024 and the admission that Israel had distorted the narrative in amsterdam, indicates that Israel is losing credibility within the same elite Western institutions that previously could not bring themselves to criticise it.
Loss of political will in these institutions to support Israel is a slippery slope on the way to full blown rejection of the Israeli narrative (in the West).
Exhibit 8 of 1000:
"Israelis are terrorised even in their most secure places."
Missile strikes on Tel Aviv have become more frequent in the past week demonstrating Hezbollah's ability to hit the intelligence headquarter's of the Israeli occupation regime.
Video evidence of strikes and chaotic scenes in Tel Aviv indicate the population is in shock and are experiencing a high degree of "terror".
Moreover, these strikes underscore the inability of the Israeli air defence system to protect even it's most sensitive assets should Hezbollah decide to go after them with determination.
Exhibit 7 of 1000:
"The generals resort to women."
For the first time in history, female Israeli combat soldiers embarked on a high-stakes mission into southern Lebanon. Facing intense challenges, they carried gear weighing 40% of their body weight, uncovered hidden Hezbollah weapon sites, and guided crucial tank and helicopter strikes. A sudden fire cut their mission short, forcing a grueling retreat through dense vegetation.
Exhibit 6 of 1000:
"The IDF death rate increases regardless"
IDF 'soldiers' are still dying, tanks, bulldozers are still being destroyed or damaged and ambushes are still being conducted in almost every area of Gaza previously claimed as "cleared by the IDF". Palestinian resistance fighters are still emerging from tunnels long after the IDF vowed to uproot all the tunnels in Gaza.
This is at least 400 days after the 7 October Uprising when the IDF has mercilessly executed its plan to commit genocide in the strip using some of the most sophisticated and powerful Western weapons of mass destruction.
What this illustrates is the Israeli Occupations inability to leverage it's technological advantage against a much smaller, less organised less well supplied opponent even when the enemy is confined to a well defined area.
Exhibit 5 of 1000:
"The Politicians turn on each other. The state subverts itself"
The political and security framework of 'Israel' is fracturing to an extent unseen before in it's 80+ year history:
A large number of 'israeli' Jews have been charged with spying for Iran in the last month, a general has been fired and replaced with a more fanatical and less technical substitute. Moreover, as in the time of Olmert, Netanyahu is coming under even more legal pressure.
The presence of such a large, unprecedented nest of Jewish (not even Arab israeli) spies hints at internal fracture within the security apparatus of 'israel'.
Exhibit 4 of 1000:
"The army is impotent"
Despite spurious claims by the IDF to the effect having driven Hezbollah out of South Lebanon, having captured or cleared various villages south of the Litani, the rockets are still being fired from the exact areas the IDF claims to have "cleared" and various military analysts claim the IDF to be in occupation of.
If the rocket fire has increased from those very same locations then the IDF is lying not only about clearing and occupying territory but also about having degraded Hezbollah's control over the area.
Any claims of military progress by the IDF are thus totally bogus.
Exhibit 3 of 1000:
'israel' is forcing orthodox Jews into the occupation army in increasing numbers and with increasing desperation, as indicated by current legislation in progress to mandate the draft of haredi Jews against their will.
Drafted ultra religious Jews forced to fight alongside mercenaries alongside genocidal maniacs. If you think this makes for a unified fighting force you need your head examined.
Exhibit 2 of 1000:
"The defences are ineffective"
Increasing and consistent failure of the Iron Dome, Arrow, David's Sling air defense matrix to defend IDF Bases against missiles and rockets fired by Hezbollah, Hashd Al Shaabi and Ansarallah.
Exhibit 1 of 1000:
"Lacking manpower, the army needs merchants to fight for it"
Increasing use of foreign mercenaries in the IDF to fight within the Gaza strip and Southern Lebanon indicates that the IDF is beginning to run out of military manpower resources. This indicates that the low casualty counts reported by the IDF over the past 13 months are false.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 1:21 utc | 91
The only thing that can save Israel now is direct intervention of Western troops on the ground.
Coalition of the 'willing' time again ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 25 2024 23:41 utc | 90
No doubt. And yet, I don't see western soldiers willing to die for the Zionist state.
Even for Jewish conscripts, the point of Zionism was not to suffer and die, but to kill and rob.
Posted by: JAB | Nov 26 2024 1:40 utc | 92
'Israel' chose door number two (naked genocide)
@ Don Firineach | Nov 25 2024 19:10 utc | 82
Thanks for the terrific remembrance. Inspirational.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 26 2024 1:47 utc | 93
A sort take on the "imminent Lebanon ceasefire".
US announces "Israel" concedes to ceasefire proposal and that Lebanon is close to accepting.
It seems as a setup, because it includes Hezballah ceasefire and withdrawal to Litani and replacement by Lebanese army, under US supervision, with "Israel" granted a right to act at will if ceasefire is breached.
It is framed so that Hezballah refuses to accept (normally) but Lebanese government accepts, so making Hezballah take full responsibility for "Israel's" continued invasion.
This is aimed at sowing civil and political discord, possibly even divisive to implement a western backed civil war between Lebanese government and Hezballah.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 25 2024 15:35 utc | 76
What I'm wondering is, is this deal agreed upon by Hezbollah themselves or is it just agreed upon by the US puppets in the Lebanese gov and presented to Hezbollah as a fait accompli?
So far, the only media outlets touting this ceasefire are Western MSM outlets, not Hezbollah. The terms of the deal look ridiculously lopsided in favor of Israel. There's nothing about stopping the ethnic cleansing and land grabs in the West Bank or Gaza. The only thing Israel has to do is withdraw from southern Lebanon - which they were going to do anyway after the beating they've taken. Not to mention having the US as "guarantor of security".... as if the US is a neutral party and not a rabid Israel supporter.
Posted by: Autumn | Nov 26 2024 2:13 utc | 94
80 Fred. In my associations with people, mostly younger, who undertake active Resistance to Israhell's genocide of the Palestinians, what I have noticed is a lack of knowledge of the role of the ME and Israel in the US strategy for continuation of US world domination, even though people know the ME as the producer of oil. And, they are not aware of the real USNATO, and do not connect USNATO Ukraine war with the genocide in Palestine. Specifically, there has been almost a complete blackout of the Real history of the Syrian War, and unless people in US follow Aaron Mate or are willing to read a suggested book on that subject, they are informed only that Bashar-al Assad is a dictator whom Russia supported, while the US opposed.
Targeting of Arabs is recognized.
Also, the effects of total mainstream media dominance for so many years in the US becomes more visible every day as alternative sources gain attention, while awareness of the level of widespread ignorance of the world and the role of the US in it also becomes more apparant. Americans rejection of genocide is not insincere and had an effect on the recent presidential election.
Resistance to the genocide must continue.
Hizbollah has participation in the Lebanese government but largely they are a autonomous military organization. But a cease fire is being demanded of the Lebanese government even though they do not represent Hizbollah. Just like Gaza the Lebanese people are being punished for harboring Hizbollah although they really have nothing to say about it. The conflict is between Hizbollah and the IDF. Even if the entire Lebanese government agreed to a "cease fire" Hizbollah would tell them to cut bait.
What is being asked of the Lebanese government is a faux cease fire in order to lower the attacks on civilians in Beirut. Without a doubt they would like them to become less frequent. They will grant a"cease fire" to lessen the civilian casualties. Why not? Everyone is going to do what they want anyway. Damage control.
This does two things. It cements Hizbollahs status as a terrorist group outside the sphere of legitimate government. It brings the USA directly into the Lebanese war as a "guarantee". All USA actions are now "cease fire enforcement" fighting terrorists.
None of this should come as a surprise. It was known from the very beginning that Israel could not dislodge Hizbollah without nuclear weapons usage. The underground fortress will soon be the USA miltarys task. This will serve to lessen the loss of face in Ukraine. In itself while terrible it would not be genocide. hizbollah are combatants the fight mano au mano. As the war in south Lebanon is taking place the genocide in Gaza will continue according to the 'generals plan" where sections of Gaza are openly declared that all inhabitants are combatants starting with the north and Gaza city. Inhabitants are told they must go south or be killed. This will be effective. Anything that moves will be killed. Along with starvation Hamas will be destroyed sector by sector.
After some time the north two thirds of Gaza will be devoid of all Palestinians the survivors in the bottom third of Gaza. a mass export will occur of Palestinians to the USA and Europe after party blue hair regains control in 2028 blaming Trump for the carnage. For the first time the consequences that humans experience from war will be seen by the American people other than the veteran population. This immigration will put USA in compliance with NWO requirements to disassemble homogeneous cultures. While Trump has openly identified this goal of the NWO he has not identified the root cause. Needless war. His war in Lebanon will provide the refugees but his administration will not be the one to import them into the USA.
On the northern front it will be similar. Inhabitants will understand if they do not move north of the Litani they will be considered combatants. Resupply to the extensive underground tunnels will be denied from Beirut. The knot will slowly be unraveled using the full resources of the USA military. Unlike prior wars where civilian populations allowed enemy combatants to operate the new normal where inhabitants are displaced will enable success. I expect both Gaza and south Lebanon will largely be cleared by 2028 when team blue hair returns filled with even more angst and anger from the genocide and justifiably so.
The world will watch as these actions occur fully understanding informed by their phones. Israel and the USA will gradually become pariah states shunned by the rest of the world those blamed right or wrong pariahs in their own environment.
On the other hand if Trump truly loves his nation he will not allow this outcome understanding that the USA in order to have a future must reestablish healthy relations with the world. Why do I think this unlikely? How is this to occur? What are the circumstances where Gaza returns to a autonomous place where people are allowed to live? What are the circumstances where the conflict can end and infrastructure is allowed to be rebuilt? The genocide is occurring. Dead people do not come back to life. Once its done its done.
Team blue hair takes control after Trump their assertion that Trump is a genocidal dictator now baseless is proved true by the carnage. All opposition will be eliminated as only one issue will be present as in previous events- genocide. Any opposition to team blue hair will be equivocated with genocide. Genocide is a very despicable thing and the angst and anger will result in a predictable outcome.
This is the situation. It may already be too late to find a solution. We are powerless. All we can try to do is exhibit compassion in our actions and condemn genocide. Yes condemn genocide because it is wrong first and foremost but do not think it can occur without consequences for everyone in a interconnected world. Its consequences are predictable. If one groups right to exist is denied in the most despicable manner we can expect blowback to victimize the group that is blamed. Like setting up a pool table. To think this is not understood that these are random events is quite naive. We all want the same things employment access to resources family and love. To deny others these things is to deny them to ourselves. If you want basic rights for yourself it must start with insistence of certain universal rights for every human on the planet with no exceptions. No that doesnt mean you get given everything as a special snowflake but that has nothing to do with than condoning genocide. If the world does not stand to condone genocide I am indeed fearful. This is the power we have not missiles. Israel will not collapse. Thats not a solution. I dont know what the solution is but we must seek it if we wish a world where basic rights are not denied in the most despicable manner.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 26 2024 2:36 utc | 96
All USA actions are now "cease fire enforcement" fighting terrorists.
Posted by: Fred | Nov 26 2024 2:36 utc | 97
They can call it what they want and use whatever fig leaf they wish but in the end this just rolls the timeline back to the 1980s.
It will end with a barracks bombing as it did back then, just bigger and more tragic this time.
After all, Hezbollah back then was just a cell ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 26 2024 2:41 utc | 97
RE: Posted by: Fred | Nov 26 2024 2:36 utc | 97
You read a lot into nothing. There are certain cretins in power in Lebanon that would sell their Country for 33 pieces of silver, nothing more. Those that love their homeland and nation will fight for their land. Nothing more than that, it’s why Hezbollah will never leave, and they’ll never be a ceasefire whereby USReal pushes the natives from their land.
As for the West, it’s the tale of the head-less horseman, roaming around to find his head to regain his life and power.
It’s over for ISReal, and the West.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 26 2024 2:55 utc | 98
Al Manar has a posting up detailing the Hezbollah activities yesterday and here is the summary at the top
Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance showcased its unwavering resolve to defend its people and land against the Israeli enemy’s relentless aggression, executing 51 operations on Sunday—the highest in a single day since the aggression on Lebanon began. These strikes targeted key Israeli positions, from the southern borders to deep within occupied territories, halting attempted advances into border villages and thwarting any significant incursion. Among the highlights was a devastating blow in Al-Bayada, where eight Merkava tanks were destroyed within 48 hours; their burned remains a testament to the resistance’s strength and precision.
Go read the 20 statements at
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2277783
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 26 2024 3:14 utc | 99
I am puzzled by this propaganda effort as pushed by Reuters
Lebanese sources: Biden, Macron set to announce Israel-Hezbollah truce
So, somehow the clash in Lebanon will freeze for 60 days but no word about Gaza, West Bank and Iran, etc.
There is BS and then there is super BS
Must be a need to make look like something happening as genocide marches along.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 26 2024 3:34 utc | 100
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Your post is a shocking insult to Israel and its soldiers. To 'finish them off' in the future must mean that the IDF is weak, half hearted, burned out, pulling their punches or being ineffective at present.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 24 2024 15:36 utc | 1