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November 14, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-274

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Repeating the set of local Palestine links….
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https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
More of the same, continued massacres and genocidal activity in Gaza, continued air attacks on Lebanese cities and surrounds, just now new strikes on Syria with twenty killed there. Continued international void and a scenario empty of visible representation.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 14 2024 15:23 utc | 1

Trump’s foreign policy appointments are arch Zionists. This is a mailed-fist to the face for the Palestinian people. Yet. ultimately justice will prevail…as the Zionist state struggles internally while being constantly degraded militarily. Hezbollah during the past few hours sent a swarm of advanced drones targeting the Tel Aviv equivalent of the Pentagon.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 15:30 utc | 2

Turkey breaks diplomatic ties with Israel
https://youtu.be/2qW6Y3K4Qv0?si=E0SWtrnVsQ61iiEj
Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 14 2024 14:36 utc | 222

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 14 2024 15:48 utc | 3

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 15:30 utc | 2
This would be a good time for Iran to respond. It’s highly likely Israel won’t wait to attack.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 14 2024 15:50 utc | 4

Could this be true? Israeli officials meeting at Mar Lago say they are preparing a peace deal with Lebanon?
https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1856831759100358888?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 14 2024 15:56 utc | 5

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 14 2024 15:56 utc | 5
They may really be thinking of peace, but they may also be coming up with the other possibility, that they too would be better off accepting a stagnant situation now in preparation for a ‘thorough beating later’.
“Donald Trump may be the most pro-Jewish president ever (NYpost Oct. 22, 2020)”
So if the US under Trump can be expected to provide Israel with ever more plentiful military aid, it is no longer a bad option for Israel to preserve its stamina for a while.
It is possible that they think that everything will be easier to do after Biden has left the scene and Trump, who is expected to be ‘the most pro-Jewish’, has fully seized power.

Posted by: Nokaz | Nov 14 2024 16:11 utc | 6

“Donald Trump may be the most pro-Jewish president ever (NYpost Oct. 22, 2020)”
Posted by: Nokaz | Nov 14 2024 16:11 utc | 6
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The next month should be very interesting.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 16:19 utc | 7

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 14 2024 15:56 utc | 5
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Israel lies constantly. They had a peace deal finalized with Nasrallah and then they killed him.
I believe the more cowardly Arab states are being compelled to act with announcement of Trump’s Zionist appointments.
With Russia transferring men and equipment to Iran, Trump has fewer options by the minute.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 16:26 utc | 8

Can anyone give me any hope that Israel will not succeed with their genocide/ethnic cleansing? Brave as Hamas are, I cannot see them being able to prevent the IDF with US, Western support being stopped.

Posted by: Wæsfjord | Nov 14 2024 16:28 utc | 9

Trump’s foreign policy appointments are arch Zionists. This is a mailed-fist to the face for the Palestinian people.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 15:30 utc | 2
That presumes that Trump is going to retire to his room, and tweet non-stop, instead of governing the nation. I don’t see it happening that he leaves the arch Zionists to do what they want. If he does intervene, that means less war, as I’m sure he would find war boring and not in his personal interests. Certainly no war against Iran, if there are people saying to him, as someone should, that it will be a long war. Single strikes are fine, long wars not.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 14 2024 16:29 utc | 10

Santiago Presas
to Consolato, Consolato
6 days ago
Good afternoon, how are you?
As an Italian citizen, I would like to remind you of your unalterable responsibility in the prompt granting of Italian citizenship to Miss Maia Presas, for which you only have to proceed and finalize the procedure duly initiated and for which all the necessary documentation for its resolution has been presented, several years ago.
As an Italian citizen, I would like to be informed of what actions you are taking – and I must ask this because of the evident and repeated demonstration of your unalterable decision to denigrate and harm people of the female sex, as you have done with my daughter – with respect to the political and media persecution that my personal friend, Dr. Francesca Albanese, is receiving.
As a participant in a supranational institution, in her role as UN Special Rapporteur, an organisation that seeks to lay the foundations for global understanding between nations, she should be the object of the utmost respect and care, to prevent the fascist ideology, which this consulate shares with the pariah state of Israel, from causing irreparable damage to her person, property and loved ones, as well as to Italy’s reputation as a state responsible for the well-being of its citizens in positions of responsibility.
The constant practice of total irresponsibility, of which Italian diplomacy makes its flag and bastion, which has already caused regrettable consequences in other consulates and embassies, is a virus that must be analysed with particular attention, not separating it from the constant crisis that ravages the Republic, in the social, economic and security aspects, with increasing incisiveness every day.
Hoping for your prompt response, I greet you with all the sadness, shame and helplessness that your incomprehensible actions and attitudes generate in me

Posted by: Santi | Nov 14 2024 16:46 utc | 11

Waesfjord@1628
Fra kvelle Amt kommer de? Min Norsk verstandnis: Litte Gran. One thing about the people of Palestine is that as Muslims many of them totally believe in martyrdom. That belief is the only thing that keeps them standing. Hamas has yet to run out of munitions…many of them reconstituted from dud Izzy bombs, missiles and shells. With those devices rebuilt, they have destroyed numerous Izzy tanks, bulldozers and other armor.
No doubt, a huge proportion of Gazans will die from starvation, imposed by the Evil Genociders. Blood is all too often the cost of freedom.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:48 utc | 12

I’m hearing more and more stories about mercenaries from a bit everywhere in the IDF, is it just electronic intifada or substantiated gossips ?
We already knew about the Azov guys, I’m talking about that story of Ms 360° U-turn sending “refugees” against a good pile of euromoney and a German passport… it feel unfortunately plausible but I don’t manage to get any serious confirmation.

Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 14 2024 16:51 utc | 13

Laguerre@1629
My jury is still out on Trump. It is not inconceivable that once he is inaugurated, he MAY make some positive adjustments amongst his appointments. But I’m hardly betting the farm on that possibility. If he wanders far away from his campaign promises, his honeymoon with millions of Americans will come to a screeching halt. Generally speaking, he campaigned as a peace candidate.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:52 utc | 14

David G. Horsman@1550
Iran will do as it will, at the most propitious moment. If they cut loose with some of their most powerful hypersonic missiles; the Izzy state will be shattered. Perhaps, though, they will linger a bit to ascertain whether or not the considerable internecine battles in the Zioni$t Entity will implode disastrously…for them.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:56 utc | 15

are the recent developments within Israel regarding significant disclosures regarding 10-06, Saudi and Turkish statements more forceful than the ICJ, separable from the election result in the US?
Any of these developments might have happened sooner.
Coincidence theory?

Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 14 2024 16:58 utc | 16

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:52 utc | 14
The “jury is still out on Trump”? Is that snark?
What world have you been living in?

Posted by: bill wolfe | Nov 14 2024 17:01 utc | 17

Any news on the houti attack on the us navy?
As far as I have seen.
us confirmed attack on 2 destroyers
us did not confirm attack on carrier
us says it repelled the attack successfully
us says it used F-35C on the attack on yemen
the films going around are from an old fire in a smaller ship
Any updates/corrections?

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 14 2024 17:06 utc | 18

Aleph_Null | Nov 14 2024 14:00 utc | 221, in the previous Palestine open thread recommended
David Hearst on Trump’s cabinet picks:
By moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, allowing Israel to annex the Golan Heights, and inventing the Abraham Accords, Trump’s first term in office created the conditions for Hamas’ attack on October 7.
In a second term, and with a cabinet composed of people who parrot Israel’s plans to extend its war to Syria, Iraq and Iran, Trump is quite capable of triggering a regional conflict beyond either America’s or Israel’s control.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-trump-new-cabinet-recipe-all-out-middle-east-war
There is no peace deal for Lebanon that does not include ceasefire in Gaza on Hamas terms, and there is no peace deal Trump and his picks for highest office can imagine and propose that is not on Israel terms and in the US/Zionist’s interests.
I am astonished that anyone at all informed can expect Trump and the rabid individuals he has chosen, and is personally surrounded by, can somehow make a salto mortale and become peaceniks.
Not because changing course is impossible as such, but because there is absolutely zero basis in reality to hang such an expectation on. Zero.
To hope in such circumstances is just the stuff of illusion and desperation.
Trump and the individuals picked for his administration can only bring catastrophe to the Middle East (and globally), which will also be the end to US hegemony and domination in this world.

Posted by: JB | Nov 14 2024 17:10 utc | 19

@aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:48 utc | 12

Fra kvelle Amt kommer de? Min Norsk verstandnis: Litte Gran.

12 points for the language attempt! It sounds like something from 400 years ago in the midst of the Danish period 😀 . We would say kommune, not amt, and we do not capitalize nouns since a long time ago. “kvelle” is not a word, but I suppose the question is “Fra hvilken kommune kommer du?”. Sorry for the lecture, but we highly appreciate others giving our small language a go!
On the question by Wæsfjord: I do agree with his sentiment. The psychotic Israel must be stopped. I recommend listening to Dmitry Orlov talking with Nima on this issue Dmitry Orlov: Israel Sinking Deeper Than Ever. He explains that when the countries around Israel realizes that the US has no means to fight Iran or uphold Israel in the long run, “Israel will be crushed like a bug”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 14 2024 17:12 utc | 20

The situation re:The Genocidal Psychopathic Entity aka Israel is fluid, to say the least; fluid like gasoline and a box of matches.
Ireland has joined South Africa’s case in the ICJ against Israel’s Genocide.
Several countries are expressing their support.
The political situation for Netanyahu is heating up.
For example, yesterday the NYT had this headline and subtext:

JERUSALEM — An Israeli court Wednesday rejected a new request by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to delay testifying at his corruption trial, ruling that he must take the stand next month even as the country is at war in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon.
The spectacle of a sitting prime minister defending himself against graft charges is likely to further polarize Israelis, and Netanyahu’s legal troubles have long split the country. His supporters claim that a liberal deep state is trying to oust him by judicial means after failing to do so at the ballot box, and his opponents have called on him to resign, with some accusing him of prolonging the fighting and the case to keep himself in power and out of jail.
Netanyahu is battling charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust in three separate but interrelated cases being heard in parallel at the Jerusalem District Court. He has denied any wrongdoing in the cases, which center on accusations that he arranged favors for tycoons in exchange for gifts and sympathetic media coverage for himself and his family.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/israeli-court-rejects-netanyahus-bid-to-delay-corruption-trial-testimony/
The creation of a board of inquiry by the Knesset into the failures of October 7th has been blocked.
With Netanyahu on the witness stand for corruption perhaps the vote block will falter and a board of inquiry
will be formed.
As we have recently witnessed, revelations about the circumstances of October 7th are coming out
with more expected.
And then, of course, there is Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Iraq and Yemen…
The question is, what will be the context, the environment, in the Middle East on the day Trump is inaugurated,
and how will these guide/limit the choices he makes?

Posted by: librul | Nov 14 2024 17:16 utc | 21

@ Newbie | Nov 14 2024 17:06 utc | 18
Doubtless the aircraft carrier will be unharmed but go into port for 6 months maintainence.

Posted by: EoinW | Nov 14 2024 17:16 utc | 22

@aristodemos 2 “Trump’s foreign policy appointments are arch Zionists”
If you want to break a system, there is probably no quicker way than to put it on overdrive. If you reduce the quantity of fuel to your engine, it just stops, but does not break. If you increase the quantity beyond a certain limit, everything breaks. Trump is not into theories, and I doubt he’s ever studied systemics. But yes, he is unlikely to ever reform Zionism or make the USA great again. He will simply push harder and harder with the same levers and increased levels of desperation till everything goes brittle and breaks apart around him.

Posted by: Shahmaran | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 23

MK Bhadrakumar has posted evidence on the down side of Trump’s Israel bromance here.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 24

At Arab summit, Saudi crown prince demands immediate Gaza, Lebanon ceasefire, slams Israeli ‘genocide’ in Gaza
By AFP 11 November 2024, 2:41 pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/at-arab-summit-saudi-arabias-crown-prince-demands-immediate-gaza-lebanon-ceasefire/
MBS uses the Genocide word.

read the comments section too, Israelis are a gas

Posted by: librul | Nov 14 2024 17:30 utc | 25

@EoinW | Nov 14 2024 17:16 utc | 22

FOOTAGE IS FROM 2020 OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE USS BONHOMME RICHARD.

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/43555

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 14 2024 17:34 utc | 26

Apologies for not aligning with the thread. It should be duly noted that UNRWA has maintained a carefully managed registry of Palestinian refugees and their descendents. This has been in place since 1948, detailing all those who were expelled as a result of the Naqba and other Israeli actions. This now numbers 5.9 million individuals. All of whom are entitled as Palestinians to the benefits of the most recent UN actions as regards land, political entitlements and reparations. It should be noted that Turkey, which has now broken off diplomatic relations with Israel, holds the land deeds from the Ottoman Empire. Inquiring minds would wonder whether this situation was a consideration in its attempt to defenestrate the organization. The geopolitical implications are significant to say nothing of reparation requirements which extend to all Palestinians and their descendents from 1948 on.

Posted by: abierno | Nov 14 2024 17:38 utc | 27

Everytime I see a mention of a proposed peace deal with Isreal, I wonder how that could be? When it comes to officially lying, Isreal does it continously, worse than even the U.S. government. Any agreement they ever make they dishonor. They just see it as breathing space to rearm and refit. The only way for there to be peace for Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, the West bank, Iran etc is for Isreal to be utterly and completely defeated by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iran. Defeated to the point they can’t attack the neighbors anymore. Political and economic collapse would help as well. You can’t make peace with evil societies that only want to kill and cause chaos for everyone else.

Posted by: Matt | Nov 14 2024 17:51 utc | 28

MK Bhadrakumar has posted evidence on the down side of Trump’s Israel bromance here.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 24
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I recommend that everyone reads this short article.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 17:52 utc | 29

Shahmaran @1721
Your theory is possible, but open to question as to probability.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 17:59 utc | 30

Posted by: Shahmaran | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 23
If you want to break a system, there is probably no quicker way than to put it on overdrive.
Trump has no intention to stage a revolution. Btw, for a successful revolution, you will need some Robespierre or Stalin in charge for some time, to destroy the old elite.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 14 2024 18:05 utc | 31

In light of the ongoing Genocide one must ask what has been learned from The Holocaust.
All lives are sacred; civilians ever suffer the most from war; we are responsible for one another.
Therefore, war should never be the first choice for conflict resolution, war is a sign
of failure.
The above are what I believe are the lessons of The Holocaust. Perhaps at one time they
were generally shared lessons.
Where did the world go wrong?
It seems to me that over time the search for lessons and the passing on of lessons
about The Holocaust has twisted into a form of narcissism.
There are now more Holocaust memorials world wide than one can count – I tried.
How many books are there? How many Hollywood movies? How many speeches?
How many articles? How many days set aside in the world for Holocaust Remembrance?
Has Holocaust Remembrance turned into Holocaust Narcissism?
The support for Genocide and Genocide Denial is deep in the US, even from those
that would earnestly declare that they have learned the lessons of The Holocaust.
How can this be??!!
All lives are sacred; civilians ever suffer the most from war; we are responsible for one another.
Therefore, war should never be the first choice for conflict resolution, war is a sign
of failure.
In Jerusalem, Yad Vashem, The World Holocaust Remembrance Center Temple,
is a must for new IDF recruits to visit. They are sent there with one spoken purpose, “to
know why we fight.”

Posted by: librul | Nov 14 2024 18:14 utc | 32

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 17:52 utc | 29
I recommend that everyone reads this short article.
I second that. Does anyone remember John Needham, famous for his work about Chinese history? At some time their Emperors defined foreign relations using family ties.
So (Quote): “to respect the sovereignty of the sisterly Islamic Republic of Iran and not to violate its lands.”
You cannot get more serious. Deadly serious.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 14 2024 18:16 utc | 33

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 24
Thanks. Good article by one of the jewels of Indian intelligentzia.
The consequences for Israel and the USA of Israeli over-reaction to Hamas provocation on Oct. 7 keep mounting and deteriorating the position of both.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 14 2024 18:22 utc | 34

Norwegian@1712
Appreciate your amending my “400 y.o.” usage of the bits and pieces of Norsk snakker og skriven. Autocorrect on this iMac is welded to approved English only. Currently residing in a Norsk named town where during the time of 1905 and a few years afterwards, folks in this village tended to look at Svenskers funny.
Even my maternal, maternal great grandfather was known locally as Andrew Finn…in actuality a Swede-Finn, with admixtures of both DNA heritage. As one of the 1896 homesteaders hereabouts, he was treated quite gently. Only a few miles away is another village where Norskies and Svenskers were almost balanced, numerically. That place is still over-run by churches, but not quite so severely as some 40 years ago. Many cliques in that melange.
My actual time in Norge was about six weeks, staying in the homes of slekning. Just a bit of hitchhiking there and attendance at net Nasjional musical festival in the small city of Forde. (Keyboard limited to English letters only). Understand that the name of the town has a slash which changes pronunciation of the first vowel).
Takk for the link to the exchange between Nimo and Orlov. Will check that out this evening.
BTW…I was fortunate enough to be able to have two years of the French language and three in German in two U.$ “high schools. One favorite is to completely mangle Mein Deutsch in their unevolved “Die, Der, Das” complex. As the English grammar and orthography was based upon Gamle Norsk rather than das Deutsch; I am quite grateful. That nation needs a second reformation…as it remains locked into an obsolete grammar and orthography. Needing to learn a prefix modifier to each and every noun is “Verricht”…”Dumkopferei”.
As for La Francaise, ” Mon Accent=pas mal”…not typically American tourist, anyway. However, cognizance of many key words being quite compromised, experience in La France so damaged French ears, that my interlocutors felt obliged to unearth their understanding and usage of L’Anglais.
Ogso: Hegseth is yet another Jens…of Quislinger repute…Of course, it is not highly doubtful that such a religious fanatic has but a soupçon of Norse DNA.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 18:27 utc | 35

Israeli’s and US Evangelicals are both Zionists. Is there a difference? Although both are dangerous, I believe there is. In Israel, Zionism is a rationalization for the theft, colonization and murder of Palestinians, in which the common people personally benefit from the home or land they just stole. It is much more similair to the Puritans genocide of the US native Americans. In contrast, aside from our Oligarchs and MIC, the Christian Zionist bears no direct benefit from Israel wars and in facts suffers for them, as we see in the North Caroloina floods. The US News, clergy and politicians, are mere salesman providing junk religion to their constitutency, who eventually figure out their son losing a limb for an ideology was a stupid idea, where a settler might say, my son loss its limb, but I have my house, lets continue. This is why Trump, even with his Evangelical base, however insincere, had to at least appear to be a peace candidate, even while expressing his unwavering allegiance to Israel. Offsetting that, of course, is that the US Military is for more dangerous than the Israel’s military and only seems to course correct after it has destroyed everything.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 14 2024 18:31 utc | 36

bill wolfe@1701
At present, much of my daylight hours are invested at the old homestead. When there in evenings, one frequently hears the distinctive howling of timberwolves…and also the yipping of “timberotes”…as males from broken packs often breed with coyote bitches in heat. Unike their coyote maternal sides, the timberotes have learned to run in packs. Generally a prairie species, coyotes have advanced eastwards into cleared lands, now part of the agrabiz world of heavy machinery operators and chemical warfare applicators.
So that’s the world in which I live.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 18:34 utc | 37

librul@1814
Coming from the heart in your analysis. Much appreciated. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 18:37 utc | 38

JB | Nov 14 2024 17:10 utc | 19
Trump and the individuals picked for his administration can only bring catastrophe to the Middle East
Catastrophe is underway in the Middle East. Trump might be a bloviating ignoramus, but he’s not a psychopath. I presume he must have mucho apprehension about presiding over the annihilation of the Palestinian people. That’s some heavy baggage. He’ll be looking for some political craftiness, an effective tantrum, or maybe even a direct order, to heal the dogs of war.

Posted by: john | Nov 14 2024 18:54 utc | 39

@aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 18:27 utc | 35
Thanks for your reply!

Ogso: Hegseth is yet another Jens…of Quislinger repute…Of course, it is not highly doubtful that such a religious fanatic has but a soupçon of Norse DNA.

I have guessed as much, the name looks like a Norwegian one. If it is, it should be pronounced as if the final ‘h’ isn’t there. We shall see what he does, but my expectations are very low.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 14 2024 19:09 utc | 40

Does the breaking of diplomatic ties mean that oil shipments from and through Turkey to Israel will cease?

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 14 2024 19:15 utc | 41

Trump is not a psychopath. He is a sociopath.
Not a big deal as every President since JFK has been a sociopath.
JFK might have been one also, but he had some good ideas.
Among the proles, Mainstream Democrats are just as foolish as Mainstream Republicans.
I had to listen to one today. Barbers must listen and not insult their customers in order to be successful.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 14 2024 19:19 utc | 42

Posted by: john | Nov 14 2024 18:54 utc | 39
I do not want a polemic, but I fail to understand how it is possible to “presume he (Trump) must have much apprehension about presiding over the annihilation of the Palestinian people”, when he has picked individuals for the highest posts in his administration who support and justify the annihilation of the Palestinian people.
If he has “much apprehension”, logic dictates choosing individuals who have the same apprehension and are on record against the annihilation of the Palestinian people, which would enable a reasonable expectation of action to stop the annihilation.

Posted by: JB | Nov 14 2024 19:20 utc | 43

@Aristodemos
I appreciate the response. I come from a region of Ireland settled by vikings – it is the viking name for my county. This whole situation is deeply distressing and the lies from fascist western governments make me think that the Nazis really won the second world war. It’s so disturbing, how such evil is supported even when they know the truth that this is a genocide.

Posted by: Wæsfjord | Nov 14 2024 19:28 utc | 44

Posted by: librul | Nov 14 2024 18:14 utc | 32
In light of the ongoing Genocide one must ask what has been learned from The Holocaust. […] Where did the world go wrong?

I know that you are sincere but you stop at the moral (or ethical, if you wish) level. Events like world wars or the Holocaust don’t happen because someone is evil (even if someone is).
We are sitting on generations of human history replete with genocides. It’s painful to see one televised during our time, no question about that. Even more painful to see a previous genocide invoked to get the next one going. This is *not* an archaic blood feud. I believe that you need concepts like class, distribution of power and geopolitics in order to answer your question.
What is clear: all those nice word we told ourselves in the West (TM) are worthless. There’s nothing left, the hypocrisy is painfully clear to see for everyone. Hard to cope with, at least for me, because there’s so little I can do.

Posted by: Konami | Nov 14 2024 19:35 utc | 45

Elijah Magnier has two interesting articles on his website:
Israel’s Goals for the Divided Gaza: The Four Partitions and the New Settlement Plan
and
Israeli Tanks Poised to Invade Lebanon
https://ejmagnier.com/
The full articles are behind a pay wall.

Posted by: JB | Nov 14 2024 19:38 utc | 46

re: my 24
In addition to MKB’s West Asia “backlash”
1) Iran and Saudi Arabia have given verve to their detente,
2) Meanwhile, Tehran is also deepening its cooperation with Russia
There are other important changes with Iran, Israel’s (and US’s) hated “regime” (from web)
3) China
Having suffered years of diplomatic and economic isolation due to international sanctions, Iran has gradually deepened its relationship with China, which has stepped in to become a critical strategic partner for Iran. Economically, China is Iran’s top trading partner, a leading energy importer, and a top investor.
and 4) BRICS
Iran joined BRICS in January

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2024 20:00 utc | 47

My dream is that Iran and Syria will unite to take out every Israeli airbase as the air force is the weapon of choice for Israel’s genocide

Posted by: ctiget | Nov 14 2024 20:06 utc | 48

Posted by: ctiget | Nov 14 2024 20:06 utc | 48
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Gotta take out the American bases as well.
The Israeli genocide is an American genocide. Israel would not exist if the US did not explicitly support it militarily, economically, and diplomatically.
I don’t want to see anyone hurt or killed but when someone repeatedly bombs civilians and engages in brutal colonialism, they should reap what they have sown. The only way America learns its lesson is to be put into place. Either through its natural decay, or by one of the mature civilizations in the world like China, Russia, and/or Iran.
Today we’re talking about Palestine but the Nakba was 76 years ago. That was followed up with the starvation of Iraqi children through sanctions, and more recently the starvation of Syrians through sanctions.
The history of America abroad is not one of peace and development. It is one of occupation, subjugation, and exploitation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 20:17 utc | 49

Craig Murray’s latest post was recommended in another thread, and contains a lot of specific detail on daily realities in Beirut.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/11/two-weeks-in-beirut/
As noted above, Israel’s Air Force is doing most of the damage as it retains tactical superiority which the Resistance has no effective answer for. The “plan” – as Murray observes – is, short of the ability to hold territory, to just raze and pulverize everything in “enemy” regions (which means anywhere there is perceived resistance to the Greater Israel plan). This will apparently continue for the foreseeable future, in tandem with the full and open transition to the apartheid regime Israel’s politicians now speak openly about.
Fairly obvious that Isreal and its western backers believe they can succeed with this program once the facts on the ground have been fully established. It is also obvious there is no long-term future for such a vision short of a wide and craven retreat from UN principles on behalf of the global majority.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 14 2024 20:28 utc | 50

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-828938
So, what are betting odds that WW3 officially kicks off before December 2, 2024?

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 20:33 utc | 51

Is Trump the red heiter?

Posted by: ApollyonI | Nov 14 2024 20:44 utc | 52

I disagree with the conclusion of the previous article – Netanyahu let it Happen.. There are many alternative and ?likelier explanations that fit the sequence of events.
1) zionist entity is founded on Paranoia. Politicians learn to ignore cry-wolf warnings from paranoid intel. For all we know those fools gave the same warning 100 times before & nothing happened…
2) zionist entity is a Colonial entity that learned to de-humanise its enemy. What do the ‘Chosen’ have to fear from ‘human animals’? Colonial complacency led to warning being ignored…
3) the entity is politically unstable and relies on flimsy coalition with religious settler fanatics, who demanded military protection in the West Bank. Better not upset coalition partners…
4) The Palestinian Resistance took advantage of all the above KNOWN factors to fool the colonial entity…
5) Knives are out for Netanyahu; “intel” and “records” are being fabricated to achieve his removal.
After all, why should we trust the “media” of a genocidal entity?

Posted by: LongT1me | Nov 14 2024 20:46 utc | 53

Is Trump the red heifer?

Posted by: Apollyon | Nov 14 2024 20:46 utc | 54

JB | Nov 14 2024 19:20 utc | 43
logic dictates choosing individuals who have the same apprehension
Indeed. If we lived in a sane world, logic and reason would get a lot more mileage,…
but we don’t.

Posted by: john | Nov 14 2024 20:48 utc | 55

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 20:17 utc | 49
“The history of America abroad is not one of peace and development. It is one of occupation, subjugation, and exploitation.”
Sounds very British.
I know the British, soon after the Civil War, began the process of inserting themselves into the power structure of the US
But, I wonder when they officially took the reins of the US? It can’t have been too long ago. JFK assassination, maybe?

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 14 2024 20:52 utc | 56

Not that Turkey has ended relations with that shitty little state, they may want to prepare for 6 years worth of rain in 2 hours. Seems to be a common occurrence against those that do not cater to the chosen ones..

Posted by: JimmyTaylor | Nov 14 2024 21:07 utc | 57

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 20:33 utc | 51
##########
WW3 has been happening for some time now.
Some people don’t consider it a proper war until it gets hot and kinetic.
If the dead could speak, a few hundred thousand Ukrainians, mercenaries, and hundreds of NATO advisors would tell you we’re well down that road now.
And that’s just on the military front, that’s not talking about what has changed economically and diplomatically in West Asia and West Africa.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:08 utc | 58

aristodemos 14
Sorry, but White ( supremacist ) man speak with fork tongue. The peace envisaged by Trump is the peace of the Lebanese withdrawing behind the Litani River.Not Going to Happen.
The peace of the Walrus and the Carpenter:
” but answer came there none,
And that was scarcely odd because
They’d eaten every one.” The genocide of all Palestinians.
It’s easier to think of elections as an opportunity for the deep state to whitewash the war crimes of the outgoing mass murderers, and gain popular consent for the new ones.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 14 2024 21:20 utc | 59

41 – Probably not. Especially if AKP government circles profit from them.

Posted by: Waldorf | Nov 14 2024 21:26 utc | 60

Johnny Dollar 56
Seems to be some confusion here.
Yesterday I heard Chris Hedges say that us Brits had decided we didn’t want Russian Gas anymore.
You’re saying we control you, so that you can decide on our behalf to blow up our cheap energy. I’m sure inside this brainwashed fug you’re decent human beings.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 14 2024 21:27 utc | 61

Report of the Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People and Other Arabs of the Occupied Territories
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n23/320/40/pdf/n2332040.pdf
Israel’s Warfare Methods in Gaza ‘Consistent with Genocide’: UN Committee
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/14/israels-warfare-methods-in-gaza-consistent-with-genocide-un-committee
“…UN report says Israel ‘using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population’.
By early 2024, more than 25,000 tonnes of explosives – equivalent to two nuclear bombs had been dropped on Gaza, ‘causing massive destruction and the collapse of water and sanitation systems, agricultural devastation, and toxic pollution,’ the report said.
At the same time, the bombings also destroyed 114 hospitals and clinics and killed more than 986 medical workers including 165 doctors, 260 nurses, 184 health associates, 76 pharmacists and 300 management and support staff, as well as 85 Palestinian Civil Defence workers mostly involved in search-and-rescue operations.
Meanwhile, the UN committee accused Israel of escalating media censorship and suppressing dissent during the war, adding that its ‘targeting’ of journalists are deliberate efforts to block global access to information’ about what’s happening on the ground in Gaza.
‘This deliberate silencing of reporting, combined with disinformation and attacks on humanitarian workers, is a clear strategy to undermine the vital work of the UN, sever the lifeline of aid still reaching Gaza and dismantle the international legal order’, it added. [What ‘international legal order’?]
The report urged all UN member states to uphold their legal obligations and stop Israel’s violations of international law and hold it accountable.”
Feel free to fwd report to your own public officials and ‘representatives’.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 14 2024 21:28 utc | 62

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:08 utc | 58
Sure, but;
saner said – “that WW3 officially kicks off”

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 21:35 utc | 63

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 14 2024 20:52 utc | 56
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Empires often end up doing the same things and end up the same way in the end.
With some knowledge of history, much of this is (tragically) predictable.
As the British gave way to the Americans, I have sometimes wondered, who comes next?
While the multi-polar world sounds lovely, it is a very ambitious project to unite disparate cultures, races, and languages for a common human vision knowing that power tends to consolidate over time and crowd out (relative) minority views.
Successful civilization trends towards uniformity, not creative chaos, until that ends, and the cycle begins anew.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:43 utc | 64

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 21:35 utc | 63
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Who is in charge of officially declaring that WW3 has started?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:44 utc | 65

AL Manar Live Feed from last 24 hours….
23:29 Al-Manar correspondent reports a heavy missile fire at Kiryat Shmona
22:18 Sayyed Houthi: Targeting US Aircraft Carrier Frustrated Major American Aggression on Yemen More..
20:49 Islamic Resistance targeted a gathering of the “Israeli” enemy forces in the eastern outskirts of the town of Maroun Al-Ras with a barrage of rockets: statement
20:13 Islamic Resistance targeted a gathering of the Israeli enemy forces on the eastern outskirts of the town of Markaba with a barrage of rockets for the second time: statement
19:38 Israeli media: Several injuries reported due to the explosion of a drone in the Eliakim area south of Haifa
19:35 Second Phase of Israeli Ground Invasion of Lebanon Fiercely Confronted by Hezbollah Fighters: Enemy Acknowledges Losses More..
18:54 Israeli media reports soldier killed in South Lebanon battles
17:56 Islamic Resistance targets IOF gatherings in Hanita, Shlomi and Saasaa settlements with missile barrages: statements
16:40 Photos| Israeli Aggression on Damascus Leaves Martyrs, Injuries More..
16:39 Israeli warplanes renew aerial aggression on Beirut’s Dahiyeh, massive raid reported in Ghoubeiry
16:16 Lebanese Health Ministry: 3 martyrs, 12 injuries in Israeli strike on Al-Shaab neighborhood in Baalbek
16:14 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters targeted gathering of Israeli soldiers in the outskirts of Adaisseh border towns with artillery shells: statement
15:47 Hezbollah declares two aerial attacks with swarms of drones that precisely targeted Yir’on and Ein Yaakov settlements: statements
15:10 Palestinian Resistance Fighters Confront Israeli Incursion in Tubas More..
14:56 Day 53 of Aggression on Lebanon: Israeli Enemy Pours Out Anger on Beirut’s Dahiyeh More..
14:07 Islamic Resistance fighters targeted an Israeli gathering at Menara settlement with a barrage of rockets: Hezbollah statement
13:41 Islamic Resistance fighters fired salvos of rockets targeting Israeli settlements of Dovev and Dishon: statements
13:38 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters targeted Yesud HaMa’ala with a barrage of rockets in line with a previous warning to evacuate northern settlements: statement
13:36 In line with a previous warning by Hezbollah, Islamic Resistance fighters targeted Nahariya with a salvo of missiles: statement
13:32 Israeli Resistance fighters fired a barrage of rockets at a logistic base belonging to the Israeli army’s 146th division in Netiv HaShayara near Nahariya: statement
13:25 Islamic Resistance fighters targeted Jal Al-Alam Israeli site with a barrage of rockets: Hezbollah statement
12:28 Fierce clashes between Islamic Resistance fighters and Israeli enemy forces at the outskirts of Aytaroun border town towards Aynata: Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon
12:19 Israeli Police to Question Netanyahu’s Chief of Staff Accused of Blackmailing Officer More..
12:06 Iraqi Resistance Strikes Vital Target in Northern Palestine Five Times in One Day More..
11:27 SANA: Explosions heard in the vicinity of Damascus
11:22 Israeli helicopter evacuating casualties from Lebanon lands in Rambam Hospital in Haifa: Israeli media
11:20 Islamic Resistance fighters fire salvos of rockets targeting two Israeli gatherings, one in Markaba and the other between Houla and Markaba: Hezbollah statements
11:17 Hezbollah fighters repel Israeli troops who are attempting to infiltrate into Lebanese border towns of Teir Harfa, Shihin and Dhaira amid Israeli shelling of the area
10:55 SANA: Syrian air defenses repel hostile targets over the vicinity of Homs
10:40 Islamic Resistance in Iraq targeted a vital target in northern occupied territories this morning, Thursday, November 14, 2024, for the fifth time, using drones: Statement
10:39 Islamic Resistance in Iraq targeted a vital target in northern occupied territories this morning, Thursday, November 14, 2024, for the fourth time, using drones: Statement
09:21 Israeli strikes on the Southern Suburb of Beirut renew
09:05 Islamic Resistance in Iraq attacked a vital target in the northern occupied territories for the third time at dawn today, Thursday, November 14, 2024, using drone aircraft: Statement
08:57 Islamic Resistance in Iraq attacked a vital target in the northern occupied territories at dawn today, Thursday, November 14, 2024, using drone aircraft: Statement
01:52 Islamic Resistance bombards Saasaa settlement with a missile barrage: statement
00:53 A second Israeli air raid targets Haret Hreik area in Beirut’s Dahiyeh
00:51 Israeli air raid targets Borj Al-Barajneh area in Beirut’s Dahiyeh
00:26 Islamic Resistance targets IOF gathering in southern Odeisseh town with a missile barrage: statement
00:24 4 Hezbollah Fighters Killed 6 Golani Soldiers, Injured Many Others in South Lebanon: Israeli Media More..
2024-11-13
23:26 Islamic Resistance targets an IOF gathering in the southern outskirts of Bint Jbeil town with a barrage of Nasr-1 missiles: statement
20:41 Sheikh Qassem Replies to Hezbollah Fighters’ Message: You Are the Pride that Shakes the Foundations of Zionism More..
20:01 Islamic Resistance strikes again Kirya base (Defense Ministry HQs) in Tel Aviv with ballistic missiles (Qader-2), hitting the target accurately: statement

Posted by: Exile | Nov 14 2024 21:48 utc | 66

Due Dissidence
https://rumble.com/v5os5dk-rabbi-shmuley-smacked-down-by-pro-palestine-maga-supporter.html
“Rabbi Shmuley smacked down by pro-Palestine MAGA supporter.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 14 2024 21:52 utc | 67

I appreciate the response. I come from a region of Ireland settled by vikings – it is the viking name for my county. This whole situation is deeply distressing and the lies from fascist western governments make me think that the Nazis really won the second world war. It’s so disturbing, how such evil is supported even when they know the truth that this is a genocide.
Posted by: Wæsfjord | Nov 14 2024 19:28 utc | 44
“fascist western governments make me think that the Nazis really won the second world war”
They did, just the command centre has been replaced. A primer:
Blowback: America’s Recruitment of Nazis and Its Destructive Impact on Our Domestic and Foreign Policy, Christopher Simpson, 1988
https://archive.org/details/4-blowback-americas-recruitment-christopher-simpson

Posted by: burak | Nov 14 2024 21:58 utc | 68

Who is in charge of officially declaring that WW3 has started?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:44 utc | 65
Really?
Seems since you put it that way, I assume you have the answer. Right?
How about you tell me? Or was the purpose of that something else?

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 22:07 utc | 69

Posted by: burak | Nov 14 2024 21:58 utc | 68
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I didn’t realize the Nazis were behind the Indian Wars or the Overthrow of Hawaii.
America has never been the good guys.
Like, ever.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 22:10 utc | 70

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 22:07 utc | 69
##########
You’re the one talking about

saner said – “that WW3 officially kicks off”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 22:13 utc | 71

Posted by: burak | Nov 14 2024 21:58 utc | 68
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I didn’t realize the Nazis were behind the Indian Wars or the Overthrow of Hawaii.
America has never been the good guys.
Like, ever.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 22:10 utc | 70
Agree, but the context here is different. One should read the book I’ve mentioned.

Posted by: burak | Nov 14 2024 22:23 utc | 72

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 22:13 utc | 71
Yup. As I thought.

Posted by: saner | Nov 14 2024 22:27 utc | 73

Just a bit of hitchhiking there and attendance at net Nasjional musical festival in the small city of Forde. (Keyboard limited to English letters only). Understand that the name of the town has a slash which changes pronunciation of the first vowel).

If you’re on a Mac, did you know you could type in special characters using the Alt/Option key? In the US layout, Option+O makes the Ø letter you probably needed.

Posted by: joey_n | Nov 14 2024 22:29 utc | 74

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 14 2024 18:16 utc | 33 Joseph Needham. Sorry, compulsive nit-picking.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 14 2024 22:36 utc | 75

@71 LoveDonbass . Nor could figure the conversation, suggest just leave as is, for if better explanation is offered.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 14 2024 22:38 utc | 76

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:43 utc | 64
“As the British gave way to the Americans….”
The British never gave way to the Americans. They instead welded themselves to what they knew was a superior force and began the process of controlling it. Winston Churchill recognized that objective and said so in his speech at Fulton Missouri in 1946. It was there he coined the phrase “a special relationship” while describing the future of the two countries and their aims for the future.
Churchill, and even those before him, knew the “British Empire” had reached it’s end unless he could take the US under his wing.
I think most of all, for the longest time, he wanted Russia and its wealth. If he could get that the British would be back in business. To do it he needed to make sure the US and Russia remained enemies. Which means anyone in the US government who tried to be friends with Russia was a threat to the “Special Relationship.”
Now, think JFK, Nixon, RFK, Trump, even back to Lincoln and FDR. I don’t believe people give enough thought to the offshore element of these escapades – particularly when it comes to funding these projects

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 14 2024 22:54 utc | 77

UN report says Israel ‘using starvation as a method of war
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 14 2024 21:28 utc | 62
Except in siege war, starvation has no place in war (though it does in extermination/genocide)
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Who is in charge of officially declaring that WW3 has started?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:44 utc | 65
history will, though some might pointo to 2014 or earlier, I seriously doubt anything before 2040

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 14 2024 22:58 utc | 78

I think France spent more money protecting the Israeli “fans” than they sold in tickets to the Israeli-French football game. I thought they were going to move that game into some other country, but they held it outside Paris. Even the most inocuous of things is beginning to cost more than it’s worth when the Israelis are involved.
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[…] Several buses carrying Israel fans arrived under police escort and some were waving flags inside the stadium. Only about 16,600 of 80,000 tickets were sold, with around 150 Israel supporters present.[…]
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/soccer/france-vs-israel-soccer-fans-altercation-nations-league-game/5985887/
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And see:
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Videos circulating on social media show Israeli football fans clashing with French spectators during their teams’ match at Stade de France in Paris.
Some of the footage, which has been verified by Al Jazeera, showed Israeli fans beating up the French fans in the stands.
Videos showed the stadium was mostly empty before the start of the match due to security concerns following violent clashes in Amsterdam after a football match last week.
Others showed fans booing and whistling while the Israeli national anthem played. Some clips pointed to clashes outside the stadium as well.
Israeli media reported that internal security agency Shin Bet’s chief Ronen Bar accompanied the Israeli team to France and was at the stadium.
https://x.com/Thomas_Rannou_/status/1857151734633648340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1857151734633648340%7Ctwgr%5Ee641fe1836182e9fe53837ccae1a89737cb63666%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2Fliveblog%2F2024%2F11%2F14%2Flive-israel-bombs-gaza-camps-6-israeli-soldiers-killed-in-south-lebanon

Posted by: teri | Nov 14 2024 22:59 utc | 79

That presumes that Trump is going to retire to his room, and tweet non-stop, instead of governing the nation.
Posted by: laguerre | Nov 14 2024 16:29 utc | 10
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‘A leopard cannot change its spots’ and Trump cannot change his innate nature.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 14 2024 23:16 utc | 80

Well, good luck Palestine and the rest of the Middle East :
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/11/14/trump-promises-to-end-restrictions-delays-on-arms-to-israel-on-day-one/

President-elect Donald Trump promised Thursday to end all restrictions and delays on arms deliveries to Israel on his first day in office, according to Amit Segal, a reporter for Israel’s Channel 12 News and Yedioth Ahronot newspaper.

Posted by: bored | Nov 14 2024 23:25 utc | 81

No doubt, a huge proportion of Gazans will die from starvation imposed by the Evil Genociders. Blood is all too often the cost of freedom.
Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 14 2024 16:48 utc | 12
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Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground
Mother Earth will swallow you, lay your body down…
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

Posted by: Ed | Nov 14 2024 23:26 utc | 82

I believe the more cowardly Arab states are being compelled to act with announcement of Trump’s Zionist appointments.
With Russia transferring men and equipment to Iran, Trump has fewer options by the minute.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 16:26 utc | 8
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This is my speculation. Will these aggressive appointments precipitate serious pushback?
I doubt that this is by Trump’s design.
But who knows?
The guy is not dumb.
He has to know these appointments will poke a sleepy hornets’ nest.
Could they be fulfillments of promises (to Miriam? to Ivanka?) that he simply cannot afford to break?
Could these appointments act like a slow-mo 9/11 for Arab states hoping to get out of jail free and sit on their backsides while Israel implodes on its own but now seeing that that option is closing and they will have to act to save Palestine, and themselves?

Posted by: Jane | Nov 14 2024 23:54 utc | 83

— behind a pay wall —
“What Frightens Ezra Klein Most About Israel Becoming a Pariah State
After the 2014 Gaza war, U.S. journalist Ezra Klein took a ‘personal break’ from reporting on Israel-Palestine. A decade later he is one of the most influential voices on the conflict. In an interview with Haaretz, he discusses how October 7 ‘re-confronted’ him with Israel’s impact on Diaspora Jews and why people who still think of the Jewish state as a democracy are ‘delusional’. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 15 2024 0:16 utc | 84

Posted by: JB | Nov 14 2024 19:20 utc | 43
Agreed. I don’t understand the supportive comments for Trump on these boards, he is completely in thrall to the most hardcore Zionists. Miriam Adelson pledged $100M in exchange for him backing the annexation of the West Bank. Granted, there is not much difference between Trump and the Democrats on this score, and I understand completely the urge to give the Dems a giant fu¢k you, but still. As we all know, Zionists also have a hard on for Russia, so much to loot. What makes anyone think Trump won’t take orders on that score as well? We’ll see what happens but I’m not hopeful.

Posted by: KMRIA | Nov 15 2024 0:33 utc | 85

President-elect Donald Trump promised Thursday to end all restrictions and delays on arms deliveries to Israel on his first day in office, according to Amit Segal, a reporter for Israel’s Channel 12 News and Yedioth Ahronot newspaper.
Posted by: bored | Nov 14 2024 23:25 utc | 81
There were never any restrictions.
None that mattered anyway.
Let them send all their weapons to Israel.
Bleed themselves dry.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 15 2024 0:48 utc | 86

https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1857142016150290672
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel (and sympathisers) r lowering their demands from “control of the Middle East” to “withdrawal north of the Litani River”. Why should Hezbollah give anything when it has no village or town to lose in the south, the Bekaa or the suburbs?
https://x.com/ZeinakhodrAljaz/status/1857128602149773580
Zeina Khodr @ZeinakhodrAljaz
The head of Lebanon’s largest Christian party told Reuters Hezbollah should relinquish its weapons as quickly as possible to end its year-long war with Israel and spare #Lebanon further death and destruction.
https://x.com/PopBase/status/1857074933945307176
Pop Base @PopBase
Ben & Jerry’s has sued its parent company Unilever for allegedly silencing its attempts to express support for Palestinian refugees and threatening to dismantle its board and sue its members over the issue. (Reuters)

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 15 2024 0:48 utc | 87

19:35 Second Phase of Israeli Ground Invasion of Lebanon Fiercely Confronted by Hezbollah Fighters: Enemy Acknowledges Losses More..
Posted by: Exile | Nov 14 2024 21:48 utc | 66
If at first you don’t succeed …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 15 2024 0:53 utc | 88

MK Bhadrakumar has posted evidence on the down side of Trump’s Israel bromance here.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 14 2024 17:21 utc | 24
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Thanks. Excellent.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 15 2024 0:58 utc | 89

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 14 2024 22:54 utc | 77
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Blaming external factors avoids that America has always been a greedy and violent enterprise, and many of today’s Americans cheer for the various occupations and genocides.
There is no justification for colonialism by anyone.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 15 2024 1:04 utc | 90

The IDF is collapsing:
https://youtu.be/71qputeWvUA?si=c7jgPBz3w0ZUntzS
Perhaps not at the rate we’d like, but it’s happening …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 15 2024 1:06 utc | 91

meanwhile back at the ranch in Lebanon
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1857148485331780018
Hala Jaber @HalaJaber
⭕️DAYS’s RECAP ⭕️
If you missed it, as I wasn’t posting earlier, yes, Israel violently bombed areas in Beirut’s southern suburbs during the morning & afternoon today. It probably will later tonight as well.
This was near Chouwayfat & Ouzai endangered the Lebanese airport, while a plane was landing.
Badass pilot …You can see from behind the smoke the tail of the plane as he keeps it moving.
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1857151686080348646
Hala Jaber @HalaJaber
⭕️At dawn on Thursday, the bombs of the terrorist IOF destroyed a residential building that includes the offices of the Taha Children’s TV Channel, a nursery for children & infants, a small cinema hall, clothing & children’s supplies stores & commercial stores.
https://x.com/ryangrim/status/1857128668457247045
Ryan Grim @ryangrim
Why is an Israeli soccer team in the European Football Associations Champions League?
Israel is not in Europe. What is this weirdness? Should Bahrain be in the European League? What about El Salvador?

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 15 2024 1:08 utc | 92

Why is an Israeli soccer team in the European Football Associations Champions League?
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 15 2024 1:08 utc | 92
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Shared values.* I thought that was obvious.
*(and no, that’s not a positive valorization)

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 15 2024 1:10 utc | 93

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 15 2024 0:48 utc | 86
#########3
The Zionists have turned me into an accelerationist.
Print all of the dollars, use all of the bombs, and feed all of the Americans into the war machine.
Everything for Israel.
It would be a fitting end for America and Israel to perish together in a lovers’ embrace of bankruptcy and military failure as pariahs.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 15 2024 1:10 utc | 94

Who is in charge of officially declaring that WW3 has started?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:44 utc | 65
No one.
That will be decided by the dominant surviving or re-emergent civilization’s historians presuming there are such and if history and date tracking is not lost in the interim.
For example: Was there a war that included Greece, Egypt and West Asia vs “Atlantis” as Plato describes happening circa 12,000 years ago? If so, won what date did it start?

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 15 2024 1:14 utc | 95

Who is in charge of officially declaring that WW3 has started?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 14 2024 21:44 utc | 65
No one.
That will be decided by the dominant surviving or re-emergent civilization’s historians presuming there are such and if history and date tracking is not lost in the interim.
For example: Was there a war that included Greece, Egypt and West Asia vs “Atlantis” as Plato describes happening circa 12,000 years ago? If so, when did it start?

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 15 2024 1:27 utc | 96

@9 Wæsfjord
“Can anyone give me any hope that Israel will not succeed with their genocide/ethnic cleansing?”
https://t.me/youseffares19/58673

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 15 2024 1:48 utc | 97

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 15 2024 1:08 utc | 92
They’re honorary whites.

Posted by: JAB | Nov 15 2024 2:03 utc | 98

From Al Manar
Sayyed Houthi: Targeting US Aircraft Carrier Frustrated Major American Aggression on Yemen
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2266915
Quote

Sayyed Houthi revealed that the most notable of our naval operations was the targeting of the American aircraft carrier “USS Abraham Lincoln” in the Arabian Sea, which fled hundreds of miles after being struck.
Since the retreat of the American aircraft carrier that was previously in the Red Sea, the enemy has avoided entering the Red Sea, and no aircraft carrier has entered it since that time, he stressed.
“The American aircraft carrier now moves either from the Gulf to the Gulf of Oman, the edges of the Indian Ocean, or in the Arabian Sea with caution and disguise. In some instances, the American aircraft carrier navigates close to certain African coastlines out of fear of being targeted.”
“No nation in the world has decided to target an American aircraft carrier like Yemen has, thanks to Allah’s support and the result of the faith-based, Quranic, and fight orientation of our esteemed people.”
“Who dares to make the decision to target an American aircraft carrier and execute it by actually launching missiles and drones to attack it?!”
Sayyed Houthi noted that the American aircraft carrier “Lincoln” retreated hundreds of miles deep into the Arabian Sea following its targeting.
“Along with the targeting of the aircraft carrier in the Arabian Sea, two American warships were targeted in the Red Sea.”
The maritime operation was executed at a time when the Americans were preparing to carry out the most extensive aerial assault on our country since their declaration of support for the “Israeli” enemy, Sayyed Houthi added.
“The American-planned operation failed, putting them on the defensive line, and their aircraft carrier retreated hundreds of miles.”
As long as the “Israeli” enemy continues its aggression—along with the American support—against Gaza and the Lebanese people, we will continue our operations, Sayyed Houthi reiterated.

It says struck…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 15 2024 2:11 utc | 99

We’re seeing more videos about IDF soldiers getting burned out or otherwise wrecked in their heads, killing Palestinians. The Nazis ran into this problem with mass slaughter. Their solution was the concentration camps and gas chambers.
In Israel’s case, I think it’s starvation, disease, privation in Gaza and it seems a lot more convenient than what the Nazis did. A perverse sense of progress, I guess. The only positive note to me is that Israel’s purchase of Congress votes (and Trump) means that the US will drift ever deeper into geopolitical isolation – very surprising given the central place US influence has had. It’s getting weird and ugly.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 15 2024 2:19 utc | 100