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November 7, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-267
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Putin spoke words today far more important than anything he stated publicly at Kazan, “Putin’s Valdai Club Appearance Part One”. Eventually, there will be three parts to the overall event. The video is linked and is just under 3 hours. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 3:26 utc | 101 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2024 3:31 utc | 102 might be out of date and not in line with his current thinking, but even that, i doubt.. sounds legit.. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 3:32 utc | 103 I’m conflicted with President Trump. He is an enigma. On the one hand, I know someone who met him personally and he was very gracious. And I believe that Melania was the most glamours first lady since Jackie. I’m concerned about his stance on Israel. And hopefully, he uses more carrot than stick on foreign relationships. Thanks b. Still love you. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Nov 8 2024 3:58 utc | 104 Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 3:32 utc | 103 Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 3:59 utc | 105 Early elections in Germany follow a wider pattern that includes France and UK. One the first glance, they are disasters for the ruling party or the ruling coalition. However, if you look and the interests of the Establishment rather than parties, they are brilliant. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 8 2024 4:01 utc | 106 Now that Trump has been elected, people here believe that there will be changes domestically. Which is more important to most Americans than foreign policy. However, it’s to be seen if his administration changes course on the Biden debacle or doubles down on stupidity. Posted by: Reversed Osmosis | Nov 8 2024 4:13 utc | 107 In a nutshell, the general policies are to the Establishment liking, but the public is divided into three major parts: Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 4:27 utc | 108 https://x.com/ThisIsJus/status/1854188088047587366 Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 8 2024 4:38 utc | 109 If the past is any indication, humans will continue to be violent and territorial. It’s ingrained. The future may offer different solutions, but we won’t evolve. It’s a matter of survival. Do we get along or do we continue on our path of destruction? Time will tell. Posted by: Reversed Osmosis | Nov 8 2024 4:46 utc | 110 Tom Pfotzer@1812 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 4:48 utc | 111 Academicist literary types denigrate plays on words in general and puns in particular…and I don’t give a royal rat’s raunchy rump for the opinions of the broad mass of academicist, rationalistic, materialistic monomaniacs. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 5:15 utc | 112 Newbie@1912 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 5:15 utc | 113 love Dunbass @1934 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 5:21 utc | 114 psychohistorian | Nov 8 2024 3:31 utc | 102 Posted by: chu-teh | Nov 8 2024 5:29 utc | 115 The polar opposite of degeneration is simply regeneration. In case you have yet to fully apprehend…both Gens Y and Z have generally given up on all major institutions. The many intuitive ones amongst that grouping are busy seeking. Soon enough, the future will be in their hands. As the Beatles intoned: “Let it Be”. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 5:31 utc | 116 Newbie@531 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 6:35 utc | 117 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2024 7:20 utc | 118 China, during its several iterations of conceptualization of the Celestial Kingdom, actively sought out those they deemed to be meretricious. Posted by: UWDude | Nov 8 2024 7:37 utc | 119 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 4:48 utc | 111 Posted by: UWDude | Nov 8 2024 7:47 utc | 120 76 Juliana. Thank you for this post. Wow, that surprised me! Posted by: canuck | Nov 8 2024 1:52 utc | 92 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 11:07 utc | 122 Posted by: Reversed Osmosis | Nov 8 2024 4:13 utc | 107 Posted by: john | Nov 8 2024 11:18 utc | 123 Putin is probably a traitor. Posted by: Sankara’s Hooligan | Nov 8 2024 11:25 utc | 124 The many people on moon of Alabama who are not ideologues or filled with political Dogma. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 11:25 utc | 125 Команда-мечта: Путин- Трамп- Си Цзиньпинь – Моди- Нетаньяху… Posted by: N | Nov 8 2024 11:40 utc | 126 Sankara’s Hooligan won, “The Most Retarded Post I Read Today”, for the below ‘gem’: “You will never be fooled by the monetary silencing propaganda ever again. Or the mainstream nedia.” Ukraine Weekly Update, 8th November2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-b42 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Nov 8 2024 11:53 utc | 129 “Something “funny” happened to rock n’ roll music in the closing years of the 70’s.” I don’t think the incoming Trump administration is going to be ready for the world of 2025. Trump is not going to be surrounded by Realists and Trump certainly isn’t one. He has too much ego for it. He sometimes has decent instincts about war and foreign policy, but he’s an old man that believes the U.S. is the greatest country ever. He is not going to let go of US power because it’s right or even because the only way to save the republic is by ending the empire. Posted by: Lex | Nov 8 2024 11:54 utc | 131 “You wouldn’t go bankrupt Canuck if you created the money. Alas, you can’t because just like Germany and Scotland you are a currency user and not a currency issuer.” Sorry, but once again you have no idea how it works. Posted by: too scents | Nov 8 2024 12:07 utc | 133 Mussolini as Revealed in His Political Speeches (November 1914 – August 1923) Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 8 2024 13:16 utc | 134 When Money Dies a book for Derek Henry new’ Sun of Alabama Posted by: Exile | Nov 8 2024 13:17 utc | 135 > canuck | Nov 8 2024 12:05 utc | 132 Posted by: I forgot | Nov 8 2024 14:07 utc | 136 Not sure if this is Pepe’s wit or he copped it but it’s funny:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 14:09 utc | 137 This is also from Escobar’s TG and interesting, but he has a way of jumping on shaky info that he’s sure is rock solid. He’s an indie journalist, it not like he’s going to get fired for going out on a limb:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 14:14 utc | 138 https://jewishinsider.com/2024/11/brian-hook-donald-trump-transition-team-iran-middle-east/ Posted by: Mary | Nov 8 2024 14:39 utc | 139 I should add: You’re both too smart and well-informed not to already know what I wrote. I suspect you’re emphasizing different cases and perhaps arguing more due to miscommunication than real differences in opinion. Posted by: I forgot | Nov 8 2024 14:51 utc | 140 From a top source in Brussels, who never failed me: Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 8 2024 14:57 utc | 141 UWDude@737 Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 8 2024 14:59 utc | 142 @Posted by: Lex | Nov 8 2024 11:54 utc | 131
Very much in agreement with your sentiments, but its not just the Trump administration but the whole oligarch class that is not ready for the world of 2025. Not even Mearsheimer really gets the full political-economic reality. I am generally holding off on commenting on the impacts of Trump until we see his actual appointments in each policy area. One thing is certain though, and that is the intensification of the tariff and export control war on China. This area is perhaps the one of greatest delusion among the US oligarchy and its courtier class, and I detail this utter disconnect with reality in my piece Note to Trump: China in 2024 is much stronger than China was in 2016 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 8 2024 15:09 utc | 143 “The Trump supporters may be in for the same annoyance in the next few months.” Posted by: saner | Nov 8 2024 15:20 utc | 144 Troll free era for MoA on the horizon?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 15:33 utc | 145 It’s incredible this fascination with Putin, there is nothing rational about it, he sends his country’s youth to die for villages, sacrificed Russia’s commercial domination with Germany, it took him more than 2 years to get rid of an incompetent defense minister! Posted by: Marc | Nov 8 2024 15:35 utc | 146 @Aristodemos, several posts in this thread. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 8 2024 15:36 utc | 147 LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 15:33 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 8 2024 15:38 utc | 148 Aged like milk
“the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you have ever seen” Posted by: too scents | Nov 8 2024 15:50 utc | 149
To paraphrase from an old Onion comic piece about retro fashion: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 15:52 utc | 150 Finally, Russia shit. Zman is not recognized as having 4O4 authority, is a nobody, and has an arrest warrant out……fair play, ’bout time. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 8 2024 15:57 utc | 151 Tom Pfotzer @ 148 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 15:58 utc | 152 Concerning the demise of the “professional” presstitution industry, the downward spiral is terminal, and that is a damn good thing. Social media and AI is destined to bury the “professional” presstitute, and attendance to that funeral will be sparse. Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 8 2024 16:03 utc | 153 I think Zelensky’s toast, Trump is media savvy enough to know when a show has jumped the shark. Doesn’t mean he won’t renew Stalag 404 but there will be some character changes and new screenwriters. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 16:04 utc | 154 aristodemos, the comment below was so OT on b’s current thread that I have extracted it to correct some of the statements therein. You do not have to agree with me, but you ought to be more polite. That is the way to make friends.
I have made some remarks/corrections,[], within what I have quoted above. The bolded part at the end indicates that I agree with you.
Buber opposed making the religion a state movement, seeing what it would become. He was a friend to Arabs and opposed to the Zionist movement, which he had left once he discovered their radical program. Posted by: juliania | Nov 8 2024 16:52 utc | 155 I was putting the finishing touches to a brief rave about what Heavenly Creatures Alpacas seem to be and something closed my spy-phone down and it disappeared without a trace. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 8 2024 17:04 utc | 156 In a world twisted by the ambitions of empire and the flawed designs of the Demiurge, we find ourselves on a Gnostic quest for gnosis—an awakening that challenges the systems that seek to imprison our spirits. The material realm, entangled in power struggles, creates a suffocating web of exploitation, trapping us in a cycle of oppression. Posted by: SacredGeometry | Nov 8 2024 17:20 utc | 157 From Valdai,
Clever Putin, the way to Trump’s heart is through his ego. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2024 17:29 utc | 158 Posted this in the wrong place – as the first half of a 2 topic post. I am hoping that our most gracious host, Mr B will forgive & tolerate that!
Larry C Johnson is a regular on Judge Napolitano’s Youtube channel Judging Freedom. Judge Nap has many high integrity, bright, former Intel/Military, and academic guests every week. Posted by: WillSeymour | Nov 8 2024 17:34 utc | 159 Posted by: SacredGeometry | Nov 8 2024 17:20 utc | 157 Posted by: juliania | Nov 8 2024 17:46 utc | 160 Posted this in the wrong place – as the Second half of a 2 topic post. I am hoping that this meeting place’s excellent founder & most gracious host, Mr B will forgive & tolerate that:
The late Scottish author, artist & public speaker wrote & spoke about that for many years & never charged admission, nor did he accept any compensation for his books.
Posted by: WillSeymour | Nov 8 2024 17:47 utc | 161 Whadayaknow ?
Exhibit A
In case you havent noticed, this is about the ‘Uighurs genocide‘ bud ! Posted by: denk | Nov 8 2024 17:52 utc | 162 There are plenty of valid reasons to be crucial of Trump and apprehensive, or even pessimistic about his new administration. But the comments from people who have spent the past 8 years in a TDS frenzy are very tiresome to read and come across as trolling, rather than real political analysis. If you hate him, please provide real political analysis justifying your position and be prepared for a rational debate, not TDS vitriol. Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 8 2024 18:05 utc | 163 Posted by: juliania | Nov 8 2024 17:46 utc | Posted by: SacredGeometry | Nov 8 2024 18:20 utc | 164 JOhn PIlger
Exhibit B
[This isnt verbatim, but it reflects the kind of attitude towards Muslim immigrants prevalent in Anglo sphere social media] Posted by: denk | Nov 8 2024 18:33 utc | 165 The Epoch of Kali Yuga has run its course. Posted by: Newbie | Nov 8 2024 18:46 utc | 166 Posted by: Reversed Osmosis | Nov 8 2024 4:46 utc | 110
Please dont speak for the row.
Again, please dont speak for the row
Thats all folks Posted by: denk | Nov 8 2024 18:56 utc | 167 This interview is well worth your time Posted by: ld | Nov 8 2024 19:44 utc | 168 In the context of renormalization, the combination of positive and negative infinities helps us redefine our physical quantities to yield finite results. By handling regularization and introducing counterterms, we can manage the infinities to extract observable predictions from our theoretical models. Posted by: SacredGeometry | Nov 8 2024 20:19 utc | 169 I left a comment earlier on this thread about how – as a Canadian child – I appreciated the US govt funded attempts to teach me – thru cartoons – about the US Constitution, as well as how a bill becomes law ! Posted by: Featherless | Nov 8 2024 20:20 utc | 170 Louis | Nov 7 2024 20:37 utc | 53 Posted by: Cynic | Nov 8 2024 20:24 utc | 171 In reply to Cynic #171 Posted by: Louis | Nov 8 2024 21:32 utc | 172 Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 8 2024 1:51 utc | 90 Posted by: juliania | Nov 8 2024 22:17 utc | 173 101 Newbie. “I’m also quite sure that he sees what approaches , and if I tried to fit RF in a next slot, I become more and more convinced that its slot is past it’s apex but RF is giving a lesson on how to age gracefully.” @ Roger Boyd | Nov 8 2024 15:09 utc Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 8 2024 22:46 utc | 175 115 chu-teh. It’s Nima Dialogue Works: Richard D. Wolff & Michael Hudson. “Trump Returns! Empire in Decline.” Nov. 7. any truth to this?? it is quite a 6 minute mouthful from trump… Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 1:04 utc | 177 Hard to get things done when Friday’s complicated by also being your birthday. Thanks to all who’ve wished me well!! I did manage to finish this: “Part Two of Putin’s Valdai Club Appearance,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/part-two-of-putins-valdai-club-appearance @ karlof1 | Nov 9 2024 1:11 utc | 178 Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 1:13 utc | 179 Piotr Berman’s | Nov 8 2024 4:01 utc | 106 is real good analysis (on election scheming in current EU climate). It must be read in full. Posted by: persiflo | Nov 9 2024 1:42 utc | 180 @canuck | Fri, 08 Nov 2024 11:49:00 GMT | 128
That’s unfortunately a tad disingenuous from you, dear canuck. As far as I can tell, SoA and the MMT folks do not claim that printing lots of money has no effect on inflation. Of course it does. They just don’t seem to talk about this much, even when asked to expound. I don’t know why, but I would surely like to; it’s the single most critical pivot in the theory that I can see. Perhaps they have no clue themselves (which might be fair enough); but then, SoA recently said his theory posits that 0% is the ‘natural’ interest rate for central banks[?], so there is at least some grasping of inflationary dynamics. Note: I’m a laymen, but with that stated, the basic approach of MMT appears sound. It wouldn’t surprise me if they are actually right. Balance sheets … yes, of course. Posted by: persiflo | Nov 9 2024 5:07 utc | 181 MMT appears sound. It wouldn’t surprise me if they are actually right. Balance sheets … yes, of course. Posted by: financial matters | Nov 9 2024 14:48 utc | 182 it’s the single most critical pivot in the theory that I can see. Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2024 15:03 utc | 183 @ by: karlof1 | Nov 9 2024 1:11 utc | 178 Posted by: suzan | Nov 9 2024 15:08 utc | 184 A new dawn Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 15:10 utc | 185 my link @ 177 is confirmed in this post from alex.. Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2024 15:24 utc | 186 @ too scents | Nov 9 2024 15:24 utc | 186 Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 15:34 utc | 187 @ James, two posts above re: Trump and Free Speech Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 9 2024 16:30 utc | 188 @ Tom Pfotzer | Nov 9 2024 16:30 utc | 188 Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 16:35 utc | 189 tom and others – i am getting some impression these twitter links are from 1 to 2 years ago.. keep that in mind… perhaps alex krainer was being overly optimistic.. Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 16:51 utc | 190 december 2022 is where the 6 minute video is from… Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 16:54 utc | 191 Tom Pfotzer | Nov 9 2024 16:30 utc | 188 Posted by: juliania | Nov 9 2024 17:23 utc | 192 thanks for the clip on trump re:free speech Posted by: E | Nov 9 2024 17:32 utc | 193 Just to add, as we wait for events unfolding with a new open comment segment, the Duran this morning focussed on Germany, and I found many of the comments inspiring, this one in particular: Posted by: juliania | Nov 9 2024 18:16 utc | 194 @Posted by: james | Nov 9 2024 15:10 utc | 185 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 9 2024 19:09 utc | 195 To james I’ll continue on Boyd’s “Alex Krainer is delusional” note with a word about peoples or polities. Not necessarily US American or Californian peoples. Peoples in general. Is is possible for an entire population to lose its soul?
Now they’re holding Jerusalem Day marches in Amsterdam. Seething and simmering just like a people who have lost their soul. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 9 2024 19:39 utc | 196 @James, Juliania, Roger Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 9 2024 20:30 utc | 197 @Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Nov 9 2024 20:30 utc | 197 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 9 2024 21:49 utc | 198 @Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 9 2024 21:49 utc | 198 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 9 2024 21:51 utc | 199 The US would need an actual revolution before any such thing would be allowed to happen. Posted by: too scents | Nov 9 2024 21:59 utc | 200 |
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