Oct 7 2023 - Netanyahoo Knew The Attack Was Coming - He Let It Happen On Purpose
The prime minister of the Zionist entity, Benjamin Netanyahoo, is under fire. New criminal allegations have been raised against him.
People in Netanyaho's office had 'leaked' secret reports obtained by the Israeli military intelligence from some low level Hamas leader. Before leaking the documents, which included proposals for future actions, the leakers manipulated them.
The manipulated documents appeared as 'news' on foreign websites which allowed the censored Israeli media to repeat their content. As leaked the documents claimed that Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar, accompanied by Israelis taken hostage, intended to escape to Egypt from where he would travel to Iran.
It was pretty obvious that the claims were fake. But Netanyahoo did use them to prevent further negotiations about hostage releases.
Several people involved in the leak of the manipulated top-secret papers have since been arrested.
Another scandal is currently brewing about events which immediately happened before the October 7 incursion of Hamas into Israel.
On October 6 a significant number of Hamas fighters in Gaza activated Israeli SIM cards which would allow them to use their cell phones within Israel. Various survival systems noted this and raised alarm. Meetings were held by several security councils, including the one involving the prime minister, but no further alarm was raised (machine translation):
More than a year after the October inauguration, the political leadership has repeatedly claimed that it did not receive any warning before the attack - but a document revealed this evening (Sunday) indicates otherwise. According to the document, on the night of the attack, at 02:58 a.m., the Shin Bet issued a significant warning to a number of security and political bodies, including the NSC directly subordinate to the prime Minister.
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The alert, which was distributed through a computerized system, included information about unusual activity in the SIM network of several Hamas brigades. The Shin Bet said the activity was unusual and could indicate the possibility of some kind of offensive activity by Hamas.
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Despite the severity of the warning, it appears that no significant action has been taken in its wake. The NSC, for example, did not take any steps following the receipt of the information. The Israeli police did not change their activities either, as can be seen from the fact that the Nuba party in southern Israel took place as planned.
This suggests, like several other ignored warnings imply, that Netanyahoo and others involved in the decisions knew of the incoming attack but had decided to let it happen to then use the aftermath for their own political purposes.
As the details were starting to come out Netanyahoo came under fire. He had claimed that the security services had been negligent in not issuing warnings. But in reality he seems to have been the one who was informed about the incoming attack but had rejected to raise the alarm.
All the national security council discussions about the decisions in the night of October 6 to 7 are noted in its protocols. As the walls were coming in on the prime minister his immediate aides sought to alter the protocols of the relevant meetings.
But the protocols were under control of a certain high ranking military officer. To get retroactive changes applied, which would exculpate the prime minister, Netanyahoo's aides tried to blackmail the officer over an alleged relation with a subaltern woman:
Top aides to Benjamin Netanyahu are suspected of trying to blackmail an IDF officer in the military secretariat of the Prime Minister’s Office in order to modify minutes of top-level security discussions in the hours before the Hamas attack that sparked the war in Gaza, Hebrew media reported Friday.
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Hebrew media indicated the probe was related to a July report on Ynet that Netanyahu’s former military secretary, Maj. Gen. Avi Gil, had some months before warned the attorney general of efforts to change protocols of security discussions.
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According to Channel 12, as part of the alleged attempt to change protocols, Netanyahu’s aides are thought to have used “sensitive footage” of a military secretariat officer in order to coax him into changing protocols discussions from the night of October 6-7, 2023 — hours before thousands of Hamas-led terrorists stormed southern Israel to kill some 1,200 people and take 251 hostages, sparking the war in Gaza.Netanyahu has blamed Israel’s security forces for failure to foresee the attack, and resisted calls for a public commission of inquiry to be established into events leading up to it.
Channel 13 said Netanyahu’s aides allegedly stole compromising information about a military secretariat officer from the phone of a woman who works in the PMO. Netanyahu’s aides allegedly took her phone under the pretext that she was suspected of leaking confidential information, but are thought to have sought her personal correspondence with the officer, the report said.
The Kan public broadcaster had on Thursday reported that Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, the IDF chief of staff, had some months ago received a complaint that the PMO was holding, and making inappropriate use of, sensitive footage of an IDF officer. Channel 13 reported that an official in Netanyahu’s circle told Halevi the officer was in an inappropriate relationship with a female worker in the PMO, though an army probe determined the relationship was not an abuse of power.
It is a wild story, and a juicy tale, and several Israeli media have dug digging into it. But I have yet to find any media outside of Israel, except Seymour Hersh, which have touched on the latest issue.
There were suspicions from the very beginning that Israeli authorities had knowledge about the Hamas attack on October 7 2023 before it happened but had failed to raise the alarm. Claims were made, unfortunately without any evidence, that this was done not out of negligence, but on purpose.
We now can finally say that this was indeed the case. Israeli authorities, up to the prime minister, knew that the attack was coming, but rejected to raise the alarm to an appropriate level. They let the attack happen on purpose (LIHOP).
All that followed since was, from the very beginning, part of their long-term plans.
Posted by b on November 13, 2024 at 17:33 UTC | Permalink
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Posted by: Ogre | Nov 13 2024 17:53 utc | 2
Nice posting b, thanks
The LIHOP is part of the bigger civilization war we are in.
Empire losing in Ukraine precipitated this escalation into another theatre, the ME.
I keep writing about empire consuming itself and this is example of that self consumption
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 13 2024 17:55 utc | 3
Land grab without the consent of the populations living on that land is typical from the western criminals (and now judéonazis) throughout of western history since more than five centuries.
Methods: genocides, exterminations, ethnic cleansings.
Posted by: Naive | Nov 13 2024 17:59 utc | 4
Netanyahoo will strangle the remnants of democracy, as the "Narcofuhrer" did in Ukraine. Imho with the dismissal of Gallant any restraints of using nukes are lost in the Israel government. I.e. Iran has only one shot. They shall prepare accordingly. As not only Iran would be in focus. These folks are insane. Jurassic Theme Park "Bronze Age", as someone put months ago.
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Nov 13 2024 18:00 utc | 5
How could the IDF leave those female soldiers in the FOP's near the Gaza border, unarmed and defenseless when they knew full well that the Hamas leadership was planning a large scale raid on occupied Palestinian territory?
Bibi deliberately sacrificed those young woman in order to start a much larger conflict (and save his failing political future), a conflict which has killed not only young IDF soldiers and reservists, but over 100,000 completely innocent Palestinian civilians and destroyed the vast majority of all housing in Gaza City and Rafah, creating over 100,000 wounded and missing and one million starving war refugees.
Bibi belongs either in an Israeli military court for treason or in a dock in the Hague in an orange jump suit.........accused of genocide......take your pick.......
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 13 2024 18:07 utc | 6
Vidéo : Oct 7th was an inside job -Hamas false flag
https://www.bitchute.com/video/usljth1J5Xwr
Posted by: Dany | Nov 13 2024 18:10 utc | 7
At what point do we shame the Chinese and Russians for allowing the genocide to continue?
How will the world appease itself of this great crime?
Posted by: too scents | Nov 13 2024 18:22 utc | 8
From the web,
Nov. 13 (UPI) -- CIA official Asif W. Rahman was arrested by the FBI Tuesday in Cambodia on two counts of violating the Espionage Act in classified documents leaks about Israeli military plans. He will appear Thursday in a Guam court.
This is very confusing. FBI has jurisdiction in Cambodia? And appears in Guam court?
The empire is cannibalizing itself.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 13 2024 18:22 utc | 9
Thierry Meyssan’s video « is Netanhyhu involved in Oct 7th préparation? » see at minute 11. In French
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n-gggh1DuPQ
Posted by: Dany | Nov 13 2024 18:22 utc | 10
#6, Tobias
No, Nutty yahoo belongs on the end of a rope around his neck, legs kicking.
Summary justice, delivered on the field of battle is what is needed. A trial is just another opportunity for the trible to play their endless victim card in their owned media and tell yet more of their lies.
Posted by: eagle eye | Nov 13 2024 18:28 utc | 11
israels 10-7 is the same as the usa's 9-11...
thanks for your work b...
Posted by: james | Nov 13 2024 18:33 utc | 12
Another Israeli false flag incoming…
After the Maccabi Tel Aviv football hooligan conflagration and psyop in Amsterdam last week….
We have France v Israel football in Paris on Thursday 14th November…do the atlanticist-zionists still have ISIS operatives in France to play the ‘Islamist’ attackers of ‘innocent Israeli football fans? Will they arm the ISIS patsies with guns from Ukraine or bombs from Ukraine? Macron is due to attend. Will they try to kill two birds with one stone? Are the atlanticist-zionists crazed enough to kill people for yet another psyop?
Isn’t this all a bit too obvious?
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 13 2024 18:34 utc | 13
Thank you b,
I have always understood that I was posting from the relative protection of my home
while you had much, much more at stake when you posted.
Thanks for all you do.
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 18:50 utc | 14
Excellent post. Shine bright light on this. I am sure you will find it wasn't just LIHOP, it was MIHOP. Like 23 years ago.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2024 18:53 utc | 15
They knew or should have known. Either should topple the gov't.
I'm guessing Biden will get his Nobel shortly, for whatever fix scam gets run here. The zionists will withdraw as usual. We'll do 'er all over in a few years.
Posted by: seer | Nov 13 2024 18:54 utc | 16
Nahhh, don't believe a word of this so called story. Mossad and Israeli Military Intelligence are institutionally inept, and most likely paid off by Iran or Russia or someone, or possibly Hamas is hugely adept at maintaining secrecy. No chance whatsoever that the Israel regime allowed a terrorist attack to occur, or exacerbated that attack, or played it in the media for all it was worth. Nope. The murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians by Israel is totally justified - and because they allowed this armed and ferocious group to live amongst them and perpetrate this crime (with no indication at all to the IDF) against a peace loving nation of god fearing people. Albeit the same god, but we don't discuss that. Seriously, people could not be that evil and if they were, then we would not support in any way.This is a clear case of good versus bad.One dimensional chess. No need to think. Might is right.
Posted by: marcjf | Nov 13 2024 18:57 utc | 17
@Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2024 17:46 utc | 1
Thanks! Exile
There is more to be revealed, for sure.
This August 2024 article discussed the SIMS and also linked back to a Feb 2024 article that discussed the SIMS.
This article also has a "teaser" that an even more "dramatic piece of information" than the SIMS is forthcoming.
Saturday night’s report was the latest in a long series of revelations that began emerging soon after October 7 about material in Israel’s hands pointing to the looming Hamas invasion that was ignored, dismissed or misinterpreted. The TV channel said its report was compiled under military censorship limitations, and that it was unable to detail an additional dramatic piece of information regarding the hours before the invasion “that should have lit all the red lights.”
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Genocide Pretext Collapses, Betrayal Exposed
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 18:58 utc | 18
Honestly, I can’t imagine that any of Bibi’s opponents would’ve behaved any differently. It’s common behavior among leaders to sacrifice some of the plebs for the “greater good” — remember Pearl Harbor? Only thing especially remarkable about this particular outrage is that it benefitted the leader (Bibi) personally by giving him an indefinite get-out-of-jail-free card.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 13 2024 19:03 utc | 19
Assuming for now these reports are correct and the conclusion Netanyahu premeditated an attack...If Netanyahu wanted the attack, then he should have avoided responding to the alert on one pretext or another, said something ambiguous (or even false) for the record to cover his ass? Why not blackmail the guy to changing the minutes beforehand, so there was camouflage from the beginning? The longer it took to engage any blackmail scheme, the more likely Netanyahu was operating damage control. I'm no great believer in the sharpness of Hanlon's Razor, but citing that to say Netanyahu merely bungled the coverup begs the question of why he didn't bungle taking the warning seriously?
To my mind, the issue is that the war was long premeditated, not whether Netanyahu did Israelis wrong.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 13 2024 19:08 utc | 20
This has to be the tip of a vast iceberg. I mean isn't this the playbook of the modern nation state where public opinion is a factor? Shape the narrative! Shaaaaaape I says! And you can't shape the narrative if you don't know how the story ends. It's a variation of the principle: do not act unless you're certain of the outcome. These days events are almost completely discursive, by which I mean that for 99% of the population any international event exists only as a reported event, even if you happen to be there. But then let's not kid ourselves: all historical events are discursive; indeed any 'event' is experienced perhaps only by a handful who have zero role in the conversion of the matter into a narrative. The idea that any event can be recovered or saved from narrative—or for that matter exists independently from narrative in some other metaphysical sense, 'somewhere else'—can be held to have been demolished by Nietzsche (Über Wahrheit und Lüge im aussermoralischen Sinne). This, of course, offends my sensibilities as a historian. But we cannot be naive: history is not about 'what really happened' but 'people acting on what they think really happened'. The conclusion to be drawn is that we don't even need proof that Oct 7 was known in advance. All that matters is the way whatever did happen was framed and represented. And that we know. 'Debunking' means replacing it with a new narrative whose success or failure depends on the degree to which it corresponds to a given audience's sense of what's plausible. To the extent that Netanyahu can be characterized as a devious and manipulative opportunist who can easily be imagined allowing it to LIHOP then sure. But most MSM normie readers dare not let themselves believe that world leaders are that corrupt even if their personal experience shows on a daily basis that only sociopathic narcissists rise to those heights. This leads to schizoid neuroses among the gen pop who cannot square the circle between genocide and benevolent democratic leaders, i.e., between two contradictory narratives. I think it was Lacan (correct me if I'm wrong) who treated all psychological disorders as narrative disorders, a radical disjuncture between the story 'I am' and the objective story. But what is this objective story? For the record as a historical materialist I cannot be a narrative nihilist/relativist. That said, the past is a braid woven from both subjective and objective conditions of life. On the one hand, there are real people acting in the moment according their understanding of things; on the other, there are the objective contradictions of which they are barely aware, which are the determinants in the last instance.
Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2024 19:19 utc | 21
Wonder if there is a lawsuit pending by those parents that lost family members at the Rave Party situated three miles from the Gaza walls - situated **between** the Gaza wall and a *named* target, the Re'im military base. The decision to put the party there was made just earlier that week (and after the Zionists created an intentional provocation by entering the al Aqsa Mosque in large numbers). The Gaza sector officers charged with allowing the party had refused permission but were overruled, in unusual move, when division headquarters inserted themselves into the approval process.
Wonder if the lawsuit was already settled out of court. That would have been the smart move for Netanyahu.
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:20 utc | 22
Follow up to #21
I highly recommend this article (open source) for those interested in how the Romans tackled justifications for war.
F. Santangelo (2008) "The Fetials and their 'ius'" Bulletin of the Institute of Classical Studies 51, 63-93.
Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2024 19:23 utc | 23
More realistic scenario is that Netanyahu knew there was something coming, not realizing the extent figured worse case it would be a good excuse to later crack down and politically save him, but all in all it wasn’t worth taking his time away from his wine and caviar.
Posted by: GS | Nov 13 2024 19:24 utc | 24
While it was/is common knowledge that high ranking Israelis facilitated the Hamas attack on Israel, it's good to have recovered the smirking gun.
Still, just like their predecessors, the population of Germany [circa 1930s], Israelis are united in their desire to establish a "Greater-[enter-name-here]" through the use of genocide and wars of aggression. Without the aid of Israel-First, that's Israelis who pose as US citizens, such a conquest would be unthinkable. But, with the help of DC's legion of quislings a horrifying sequel to WW II is in the process of unfolding.
There is still time but, it's pretty desperate, Netanyahu's effort to start a war with Iran using the United States as Israel's goy proxy may reach critical mass soon and there is no reason to believe such an endeavor would quickly involve Russia & China.
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 13 2024 19:27 utc | 25
Correction:
"no reason to believe such an endeavor would[n't] quickly involve Russia & China"
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 13 2024 19:27 utc | 25
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 13 2024 19:33 utc | 26
Want to give a big Tip of The Hat
to a website that really put wind in my sail.
On October 8th, 2023 (yes, the day after Oct 7th)
he wrote about LIHOP.
What happened? The website is in New Zealand and at some point
the website had to erase everything relating to LIHOP without explanation.
Fortunately, I had made an archive of one critical page from that website:
https://archive.ph/oJxMe
Just browsed that website and I chanced across a page that made me wonder...
are Israelis harvesting the blood of Gazan children?
https://www.armageddonprose.com/youth-blood-harvesting-another-conspiracy-theory-vindicated-as-fact/
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:36 utc | 27
I don't buy this story.
Israeli leadership were incompetent and weak, were surprised by Hamas, but they prefer to appear as malicious rather than what they are: a bunch of incompetents racists incapable of defending their borders against known enemies leading to the killing of over a thousand of their subjects.
This Hamas attack on Oct. 7 and the subsequent revival of war in the ME is much bigger than the petty plans of the top jews of the tiny enclave of Israel. It is part of a larger geopolitical effort by Great Powers.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 13 2024 19:37 utc | 28
Excellent sleuthing, b. The SIM card activations were the dog that barked in the night that was purposefully ignored. That act raises another question not yet asked: How could Hamas not be aware that such activation would alert the Zionists? I assume the warnings were announced and read into the security council's minutes which is why those minutes were sought presumably for alteration. But Netanyahu wasn't the only person at that meeting; a roster would be very helpful as then it wouldn't only be Netanyahu that knew.
How to amplify this important news? It sems clear the minutes could provide the smoking gun evidence needed to prove guilt, the crime being the facilitation of an attack on Zionists and the subsequent crime of killing innocent Palestinians and all international aid workers of all sorts.
IMO, mirroring b's report is the best those of us with our own media outlets can do at this point, and that's what I will do.
Why are we learning this now?
Probably, because the military balance has shifted eastwards. B.N. is no longer useeful to the überelite, except as a scapegoat, maybe.
Posted by: Biochar | Nov 13 2024 19:42 utc | 30
I don’t get it. Why does anybody care?
I personally am glad Nuttyahoo outsmarted himself.
I’m glad he has a front row seat to the destruction of USReal. I’m happy he helped engineer the end of the occupation, I’m happy to watch Zio’s squirming and isolated.
As for the genocide, murder and destruction…
I see a land invasion in USReals future. I see Nuttyahoo et el locked up and never coming out again.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 13 2024 19:49 utc | 31
@Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:36 utc | 27
I will answer my own question.
They couldn't be, as that would affirm the most ancient of anti-semitic tropes - Blood Libel.
Israel can do **everything** evil that is imaginable, but they couldn't do that.
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:51 utc | 32
Dear b,
If you hadn't read it yet : this interview supports your analysis, on other points and it's Nurit Peled who speaks, yes the general's daughter.
What were your first thoughts? (on the day of 7/10)
Nurit Peled: "I wasn't afraid for myself, but I was frightened by what was happening. Firstly, because the State of Israel had intentionally left the south.
They decided to drastically reduce the army's presence in this area, which was then attacked by Hamas. Some time ago, they also withdrew weapons from kibbutz guard units.
These measures taken by the government made it possible for this to happen."
They were aware, much before the 6/10.
Posted by: Tak-Tik | Nov 13 2024 19:53 utc | 33
I don’t get it. Why does anybody care?
You know what? Netanyahu supporters will not care.
"He did it for the good of the Nation."
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:53 utc | 34
LIHOP is a given
Wouldn’t surprise me if it proved out to MIHOP
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 13 2024 19:55 utc | 35
Still about N. Peld's interview : I'd forgotten how powerful this interview, with a personality who is (was?) respected in Israel, is. It deals with important points, such as how Israel prepared the genocide:
N.Peled : "This creates a nationalism that results in large numbers of teenagers ready to kill any Palestinian of any age, because they think they are the new Nazis who will exterminate us. This education can be defined as maltreatment, because it educates children in a perpetual trauma. On Holocaust Day, at the age of three, they are shown the most horrific and appalling images, then they have nightmares, they wet the bed. They come to believe that anyone who isn't Jewish is a potential Nazi."
Posted by: Tak-Tik | Nov 13 2024 20:07 utc | 36
Of course they knew. They put the rave there to increase the death toll. Rave goers tried to escape in their cars, but were taken out by Israeli fire under the assumption that they were all being kidnapped by Hamas terrorists...it's the Hannibal directive, but even more wicked given the set up.
This sort of action isn't really new...Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, 911...all mass deceptions fabricated by elite psychopaths in their quest for domination of the planet.
What's new is that the average person now has access to alternative media, so the truth of this is available. Believe it or don't, but the more a person immerses themselves in hidden history, the more they understand that the history that they were taught is a contrived lie.
It's bizarre to me that the elite has given the Internet to everybody. Eventually, it will force them to be honest. Indeed, their consistant falsehoods are now routinely ridiculed by much of the populace.
Here's the big revelation for Western peoples: They're not the good guys.
Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 13 2024 20:11 utc | 37
More than LIHOP. It was encouraged and moves were made that lead to many more Israeli deaths. This is a good series on the issue: https://truthinmedia.com/series/reckoning-israel-and-gaza/
Posted by: ZimInSeattle | Nov 13 2024 20:33 utc | 38
@ Tak-Tik 33-35
Apart from army bataillons transfered to West Bank, one other point worth mentioning : The music feast was relocated at last moment very close to Gaza wall.
This éventualité provided much cannon folder to Israel’s Apach helicopters !
Posted by: Dany | Nov 13 2024 20:33 utc | 39
"Here's the big revelation for Western peoples: They're not the good guys.
Posted by: A rope leash"
funny I just posted something similar an hour ago.
Always thought in a battle of good against evil I would be on the good side.
If it sinks into my thick head that quick, it should make the rounds.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 13 2024 20:39 utc | 40
Jewrael's psychopathy and schizophrenia remind me of a 1960s hit song by Lou Christie called Two Faces Have I
(One to laugh and one to cry).
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One day they're simpering little cowards wallowing in self pity.
Next day they're ultra blokey Masters Of All They Survey and slaughtering "other" women and children without a scintilla of empathy or compassion.
Just a shitbox fake cuntry with no sane or rational reason to exist. The sooner Iran puts them out of their, and our, misery the better.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 13 2024 20:40 utc | 41
One point not to be overlooked:
It was made known that Natanyahu invested on Hamas since years, when Hamas won Élections in Gaza. There was a cash bridge from Qatar to Hamas through Ben Gourion airport, with Shin’Bet warranting the safe transmissal of Qatar bank notes to Hamas.
Posted by: Dany | Nov 13 2024 20:47 utc | 42
So the genocide was planned - by allowing Hamas to attack - quite frankly I wouldn't put anything past those evil Zionists, of which only force will stop them from achieving their evil plan.
I have no sympathy for the Israeli hostages - they are all illegal settlers - I suppose its possible if the relatives of those illegal settlers, they themselves illegal settlers - get word of Netanyahu's complicity they might not take it so well - but who cares if they do or don't - they are all illegals.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 13 2024 20:55 utc | 43
@31 A land invasion by whom though, Egypt already cracks down on any Palestinian solidarity. Look up recent stories where they disappeared a whole fucking family just posting online solidarity for Palestine. The only way that happens if Egyptians rise up (which will only happen if their Military let them or joins them). Jordan is in the pocket of the U.S. Iraq and Syria have been devastated. Saudi Arabia is also in the pocket of the U.S. (and funds extremism in favor of U.S. Imperial interests and sectarian division).
The only real resistance are homegrown militias or those joining them fed up from neighboring countries, which have to play the long game of provocation and drawn out defensive postures. In that way they DO force the U.S. to expend billions while they take 'relatively' few losses by fighting asymmetrically with underground base networks and consistently goading Israel to expend what they have.
I think ultimately Israel will destroy itself from within if their society starts to crack, which is showing those signs. The Israel military of the modern era is not what it was decades ago, almost all of them are reservist of a generation of kids that are Tik Tok brained. Certainly 'if' a modern army hypothetically invaded Israel, they wouldn't last long in this day and age, they would require U.S. boots on the ground.
I do think a United World Coalition would be justified in forcing Israel to end its madness, perhaps under an extraordinary measure such as the U.N.'s "Uniting for Peace" 377A resolution, if they have the will to do it.
Posted by: Anon | Nov 13 2024 20:58 utc | 44
I knew this was a put up job on day one.
The European Ashkanazi fake jews, as noted in this 1,000 year old document; https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/khazars1.asp need to be regarded world wide as fraudsters perpetuating crime every time they claim they are "jew".
If a person is acting normally, that is fine. The second they say they are "jew", one of the thirteen tribes of the legendary Hebrews, that person should be laughed out of the room and no one ever speaks to them again. In the classic Star Trek there is someone representing every race except 'jew' because jew is NOT an actual race, it's only a fraud. And in the time of Star Trek everyone knows the real Hebrew tribes never ever called themselves 'jew' and anyone claiming to be 'jew' was right off the bat perpetuating a fraud.
Posted by: Hot Carl | Nov 13 2024 21:01 utc | 45
Breaking Good news..Bad News;
First the bad, that backstabbing snake Rubio got Sect. of State...this serpent will do all he can to devour others in the Admin who might have presidential aspirations.
Good news; Tulsi will be giving Trump his daily briefing as DNI. And as AG, Gaentz will go after those that have turned the Justice Dept into an American version of the infamous Nazi "Peoples Court".
I am hoping...and no, hope is not a plan...that, the SoS move is a clever measure by Wiles meant to prevent Rubio from running in 2028 ???
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 13 2024 21:06 utc | 46
@21 patroklos
Thank you. I think I grasped most of your thoughts here. I like your "braid" of history, between the subjective and the objective.
For instance, modern western liberals hold that colonialism of the natives in America was intrinsically evil. Many thoughts spring to mind regarding this overarching train of thought and implanted self-hatred:
1) natives practiced human sacrifice which is, understood in any context, as an evil, although ancient people viewed it as a necessity for maintaining culture
2) Techne is the prime mover of expansion, not greed. Only when confronted in the new world with natives, does the battle of rank emerge and where Techne establishes its dominance over people
3) Seeing as how western Techne was going to conquer the natives regardless, the Catholic Church was instrumental in truly saving souls, welcoming them into the fold of westernism.
4) Both the natives and westerners had their respective levels of Techne, but the saving grace of the natives was indeed the humanists element most demonstrated at the time by the Catholic Church.
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Regarding psychiatric disorders and mental illness/neurosis: increasingly to me all pathologies understood by the western scientific mind need to be understood as a result of the scapegoat mechanism and its place in families and through what, historically, today holds sway as healthy/acceptable behavior.
If we live in a Freudian society that is pleasure and sex obsessed, which it is, we will switch gears from extremely chaste Puritanism to anything goes debauchery in a post-Christian world. As a result, Christians that practice chastity are now reframed in this Techne as the enemy.
So it goes.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 13 2024 21:14 utc | 47
"I am hoping...and no, hope is not a plan...that, the SoS move is a clever measure by Wiles meant to prevent Rubio from running in 2028 ???"
More likely a springboard to the nomination.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Nov 13 2024 21:16 utc | 48
eagle eye @11.
No. You canna' hold a corpse's feet to the fire and get useful answers.
Benji Notajew needs to answer for his crimes, an' the rest of us wanna
know where he hid the bodies.
Fubar
Posted by: Fubar El Haq | Nov 13 2024 21:21 utc | 49
I get your point FD-48 but...
He has to resign his position whereas Vance would not and...
Rubio's support is very..very..thin among hardcore MAGAs and non-existant among independents who voted for Trump...now add that he has to publicly be disloyal to run and I think it's possible, it's a very well laid trap. Additionally, Rubio will be distanced from Trump's ear...I think Wiles played a role in this.
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 13 2024 21:21 utc | 50
"It's bizarre to me that the elite has given the Internet to everybody. Eventually, it will force them to be honest"
@A rope leash | Nov 13 2024 20:11 utc | 37
David Rockefeller said that it [the internet] should never have been invented
But looking at how meagre peoples discernment is, the elites actually manage to control the narrative anyway. For people believe things. They are not necessarily picking the right truth. And the elites predicts and therefore controls their emotional responses.
The subject of Mass Communication has been funded extensively.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 13 2024 21:25 utc | 51
Posted by: Dany | Nov 13 2024 20:47 utc | 42
Huh?!
That's Rocky & Bullwinkle's Fractured Fairytales version of 'History'.
What Really Happened was that the jews arrested most of the successful Hamas candidates, for whom the Palestinians voted, and tossed them in the slammer without the courtesy/formality of a trial - as ter'rists.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 13 2024 21:30 utc | 52
How convenient … thinking of 9/11 and Logan airport … security run by … one guess … as attack happened the Israeli’s jumping of joy on the NJ side … Mossad kept track of Saudi terrorists from Hamburg to Florida to Los Angeles … read presentation of Bibi Netanyahu in US Congress within a fortnight … the Zionist dream of his father Benzion and friend Jabotinsky … 50 years Joe a closet Zionist. 🤢
Turkey severs all ties with Israel...Erdogan's population was becoming very restless, and the pressure was too much...Jordan and Egypt next??
Posted by: Pyrrhus | Nov 13 2024 21:47 utc | 54
So once you get to the top in any profession it is nothing more than a Puff Daddy freak off party. Probably to get to the top you already have had to be compromised in some way. So that it can be used against you when needed.
Here's a true story.
I was sitting beside my pal on a plane going to a Scotland football match in Lithuania. Who was high up in the Scottish police force.
We had a few beers and he told me about the time he travelled with the heads of the Scottish police force to FBI headquarters regarding the Lockerbie disaster and the bomb on the Pan am flight.
They arrived and had their meetings with the FBI but he never mentioned what was discussed. He said On the last night after the last meeting they were standing at the bar drinking within the FBI grounds. All these beautiful women came into the bar and that he had never felt so sexually aroused in his entire life.
The next morning he and the heads of the Scottish police force talked about it in the airport as they were due to fly back. Every one of them thought they had been drugged. They had all experienced the same feeling and never been more sexually aroused in their lives.
They are all convinced it was a trap and if anyone had gone with any of the these beautiful women in the FBI bar and taken them back to their rooms. It would have been filmed and used against them. It was an extra layer of protection of the truth ever got out regarding the bombing.
I just sat there gobsmacked and didn't know what to say. As I was quite young and very naive at the time.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 13 2024 21:50 utc | 55
It's even worse than that. Preceding Friday evening, Ben Gvir and a bunch of rabid colonists invaded Al-Aqsa helped by the local elite police , throw out all the Muslims and organized a talmudic ritual there.
It was not just a LIHOP , it was a provoked one ...
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Nov 13 2024 21:51 utc | 56
They are all convinced it was a trap and if anyone had gone with any of the these beautiful women in the FBI bar and taken them back to their rooms. It would have been filmed and used against them. It was an extra layer of protection of the truth ever got out regarding the bombing.
I just sat there gobsmacked and didn't know what to say. As I was quite young and very naive at the time.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 13 2024 21:50 utc | 55
It's almost adorable, really. Nowadays I'm not sure adultery qualifies as a reason to yank your security clearance.
And yet... some billionaires especially are panicking, seemingly for no reason. What have they done to fear a hedonist like President Trump?
Epstein could answer that. President Trump knows too.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 13 2024 22:00 utc | 57
@BoltzmannBooty of Twitter has been writing about this for almost a year. And Hersh has plagiarized or at least copied stuff he has written. Give him the credit he deserves!
Posted by: v | Nov 13 2024 22:03 utc | 58
The families of the Jewish hostages are quite a nuisance to Netanyahoo and they are getting more troublesome as time passes. It is no wonder he tried to kill most of the potential hostages on the line of scrimmage. Crass, but true.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 13 2024 22:09 utc | 59
Excellent post. Shine bright light on this. I am sure you will find it wasn't just LIHOP, it was MIHOP. Like 23 years ago.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 13 2024 18:53 utc | 15
MIHOP? To me it seems, the two planes that hit the towers, were really piloted by young Arab men who expected to be rewarded by Allah in paradise. They were not piloted by CIA agents or Mossad or what have you. Their supervisors, of course, were either Mossad or had links to Mossad. Same for the guys who planted the explosives. So that part was an inside job, but the planes impacting the towers was LIHOP.
Posted by: grunzt | Nov 13 2024 22:09 utc | 60
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 13 2024 18:07 utc | 6
Or Netanyahu should be sitting in a chair, body riddled with bullets or hanging by his feet from a lamp post in a similar state.
Posted by: morongobill | Nov 13 2024 22:11 utc | 61
I've seen fragments of local Palestinian TV channels where they openly talked about the upcoming Hamas operation. Stating that they were going to break out of the Gaza strip and occupy Israeli settlements and villages close to the strip. I believe it was some days or couple of weeks before oct 7.
Egypt warned. Israeli intel must have known.
Posted by: Governthemente | Nov 13 2024 22:17 utc | 62
Not only did they LIHOP, but they went out of their way to artificially enhance the impact of the incursion by instructing the IDF to kill hundreds of Israel civilians under the 'Hannibal Directive'. The hundreds of burnt out shells of cars can only have been caused by the 30mm cannons and rockets of the IDF Appache gunships, not lightly armed Hamas fighters who's brief was to only target military personnel. There is clear video footage of these 'friendly fire' attacks being carried out by IDF. Once the smoke had cleared, they then flooded the complicit western media with made up stories of beheaded babies, rapes, murders etc. so as to somehow excuse their genocidal attacks on Gaza, which they had always intended to ethnically cleanse in order to annex the land and steal the massive offshore oil and natural gas deposits that lie off that coastline and rightfully belong to Palestine.
I sincerely hope a coalition of forces comprising Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and even Syria can somehow put a stop to the plans of this execrable bunch of thieving zionist scumbags before it's too late.
Posted by: SIr_Keef | Nov 13 2024 22:24 utc | 63
I am a professional musician and during my long career I have arranged and produced many concerts. The opacity surrounding the events of October 7th Gaza rave, particularly the last-minute rescheduling of the venue, caught my attention way back last October and nothing that has emerged since has altered my initial impression that the Israeli intelligence community knew in advance that a Hamas-led insurrection was coming, and deliberately moved the rave to a location which they knew would be directly in the path of the attack.
• On October 6th, the weekend 'Rave Festival' formally advertised as the Sukkot Supernova Festival began at Kibbutz Re'im
• On the morning of the 7th, the Hamas fighters invaded the festival site
• According to both a BBC article and Billboard magazine interview with Raz Gaster (one of the event's artist managers) the festival was moved from its original site in the Southern Negev just two days in advance
• I was able to connect with Gaster via email and he confirmed the move to a different location but didn't answer my questions as to precisely where it was originally scheduled and why it was suddenly moved to Re'im which was perhaps as much as 200km away.
Here's the most relevant excerpt from the Billboard story:
Universo Paralello was not originally intended to take place at the Re’im site, with organizers moving it to this location only two days before it started, when another site in southern Israel fell through. The new site at Re’im featured a pair of stages, with the Israeli producer Artifex playing the mainstage when the attack started. (Raz) Gaster was told that the attackers closed the road into the festival from both sides so attendees could not escape.
I've been involved with many concert productions, and I can say with confidence that even if the replacement venue has a stage or stages, you still need sophisticated sound equipment, lights, power, porta-potties, etc., etc. Two days' notice is barely enough, even with good luck and a following wind, to organize the necessary infrastructure. Is it possible? Yes, but everything has to fall into place seamlessly and immediately. In a small country where a producer knows all the chess pieces, it's likely more doable than in the US, with its vast distances, but even so, it's a near-impossible task. In addition, this event was a complex undertaking involving about a dozen different international bands which had originally been scheduled to play on three different stages. Furthermore, it was the first time that Israel had hosted this Trance Dance Festival (Universo Paralelo) which had originated in Brazil about 20 years earlier.
In such a large-scale and sophisticated planning operation, how could Hamas have shifted all their resources and attacked this festival at its new venue with just two days' notice? They had apparently practiced this incursion for a year in advance; it seems extremely unlikely they would be able to switch venues and continue with their plans on such extremely short notice.
It is hard not to conclude that the Israelis knew about the change of venue well before the publicized two days, and simultaneously leaked that information to Hamas. The Israelis needed an excuse to initiate the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. The change of venue, combined with moving the bulk of its normal Gaza security forces further to the north - was a perfect way to achieve that goal.
Posted by: Mexicana | Nov 13 2024 22:25 utc | 64
@petergrfstrm | Nov 13 2024 21:25 utc | 51
Someone once said to me that "Americans don't want the truth, they want something to believe in".
No a average person has access to the actual facts regarding anything that they were not directly involved in. People absorb information and form it into their own personal "truth". Actuality is something else entirely, and lives mostly in the realm of the unknown.
...and they sure do know how to yank people's chains. Gullibility is key...9/11 proved that.
Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 13 2024 22:39 utc | 65
gruntz 60, those "hijackers" couldn't even fly a Cessna! That's a known fact. The planes on 9/11 were flown remotely. All crew and passengers gassed long before impact. MIHOP all the way down.
Two days before Oct 7th the Rave was moved closer to the Gaza fence. Loud techno music all night long for bait, and a bunch of kids high on ecstacy offer little resistance. The perfect trap for a mass hannibal slaughter with hellfire missiles. Hamas didn't have helicopter gunships, and didn't cook babies in ovens. It was MIHOP all the way down, and flood the world with a fake narrative. Turning Gaza to gravel has been a plan for years.
Posted by: windship | Nov 13 2024 22:40 utc | 66
In December 2021 Russia proposed treaties to the USA and NATO. We did not listen then.
Today, about allowing Kiev to use missiles for strikes deep inside Russia.
If the Kiev regime receives permission to carry out the abovementioned attacks, we will consider it as NATO countries de facto entering into direct armed conflict with Russia. This will change the essence of the conflict, its nature. The response to the use of Western long-range systems to attack the territory of our country will be inevitable and devastating for them. (tass)
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 13 2024 22:51 utc | 67
Just IMO now the Trump Team is forming;
Israel will exterminate or expel all Palestinians. This is clear now as NOBODY is going to stop them. This must be obvious to all by now.
In four years or less, West Bank and Gaza will be annexed entirely. Trump (and his Israel firster neo-neo-cons) will back them all the way.
If anyone disagrees, please do enlighten me as to the 'by who and how' they will be stopped. I seen no indication anyone cares to.
Would be exceptionally happy to be shown to be wrong.
Posted by: saner | Nov 13 2024 22:57 utc | 68
Reading this I had to pause - Al Quassim etc members activating Zionist sim-cards on the eve of a proposed operation against their Zionist enemy - causes me to pause ...
Think I'll let that pause continue ...
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 13 2024 23:07 utc | 69
Thanks to all. I too have believed this was a MIHOP event.
However
Talking with the “great unthinking population” I have no course acceptable to provide them a chance to think.
Does anyone have an acceptable source which might provide the potential to educate “the great unthinking masses”
Posted by: MervRitchie | Nov 13 2024 23:08 utc | 70
Posted by: saner | Nov 13 2024 22:57 utc | 68
You're right. I've said it many times before. Gaza Condos and LNG platforms. Remaining local population will be helots, serving drinks at the Rafah Hilton. If they're lucky.
Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2024 23:15 utc | 71
Here's the big revelation for Western peoples: They're not the good guys.
Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 13 2024 20:11 utc | 37
Oh no the west are not the good guys. we never been the good guys. we are the very evil guys.
On top of all the west is all ugly dictatorship everywhere: Genocidal Germany, Brutal France, Hideous UK, Warmonger USA, all following the path of their master the beasty zionist entity feasting on Innocent Palestinians since they invaded their land.
When I meet people in my country (in europe) and talk about the genocide in Palestine, we keep our tone at the lowest.
We live in an orwellian disgusting pile of shitland built on and maintained by the blood of murdered innocent children held in the arms of their murdered helpless innocent mothers.
Posted by: Animal | Nov 13 2024 23:16 utc | 72
RE: You know what? Netanyahu supporters will not care.
"He did it for the good of the Nation."
Posted by: librul | Nov 13 2024 19:53 utc | 34
Agreed. Especially in the West, won’t see a main stream channel cover it.
However, a lot of non-Nutty, or anti-supporters don’t care either. Nutty is simply a walking flesh lie. Nothing at all he ever says about anything remotely relates to truth.
For me, it’s just one more lie, and means nothing. The sooner USReal is invaded, the better. They want some political cartoon show in Israel to gaggle about for awhile, instead of GENOCIDE, Fk em. Hope the circus devours them all.
West Bank now realizes, it’s do or die. They’ll suit up soon.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 13 2024 23:16 utc | 73
Posted by: saner | Nov 13 2024 22:57 utc | 68
Perhaps apply a different perspective; who can produce children, who can regenerate their populations faster? The genocidal apartheid entity, with its, shall we say, unique approach to heritage, or the oppressed peoples and their allies? It will become a multi-generational resistance, until one side or the other collapses; I know which side my money is on to collapse first...
.. and it might be quicker than any of us could foresee.
Demographics is an unforgiving bitch.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Nov 13 2024 23:20 utc | 74
Just like Bush Jr. right before 9/11, and FDR right before Pearl Harbor. Both of those cretins knew something was coming, but chose to do nothing and play dumb because they knew major attacks on American soil would only serve to further advance their agendas.
Same calculus with Nutty and Brandon in Israel. Nutty and Biden want Gaza because its critical for the IMEC. Nutty and Biden also get the opportunity to humiliate/embarrass/weaken Iran. A major attack on Israeli soil by Hamas lets them do both.
At least, that was their daydream. The reality on the ground has proven to be a bit more harsh and unforgiving.
Posted by: Monos | Nov 13 2024 23:28 utc | 75
Well, it might turn out to be MIHOP too. As to whether Khazar politicians give a flying duck about morality or sexual adultery, I very much doubt it.
Moshe Dayan was a prolific sexual predator.
I very much feel that this genocide is , in Israeli terms , vented fury at Muslim chastity, and in US terms, a Crusade against Muslim ownership of the Holy Land of Palestine. The Qur'an describes the people of Sodom and Gomorrah complaining about the cleanness of the angels who came to prophet Lot AS in human form.
Khazars lie - comprehensively. I spent 20 years with one, and I understand the technique of literally trashing all the rules in the book in order to get their own way. I also understand that Khazar lies don't get repented. They will stick with their lies through thick and thin, and you have to know you have only seen odd bits of their total deceptivity.
C'est la vie.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 13 2024 23:29 utc | 76
morongbill 61
People complain to me about the Qur'an 's descriptions of Hell
Bullets are Momentary. Hell is Eternity.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 13 2024 23:35 utc | 77
Monos 75
I wouldn't be trying to get inside Bidet and Nutjob's heads, if I were you.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 13 2024 23:37 utc | 78
Said the same from the beginning. Now will apologies be forthcoming to librul and myself?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 13 2024 23:50 utc | 79
those "hijackers" couldn't even fly a Cessna! That's a known fact. The planes on 9/11 were flown remotely. All crew and passengers gassed long before impact. MIHOP all the way down.
windship | Nov 13 2024 22:40 utc | 66
What I don't like about that theory is that it is unnecessarily complicated. The hijacker theory, by comparison, is self-explaining. Boxcutters can be terrible weapons. The Israelis (who were manning the passenger controls) "helped" to bring them onboard. Apart from the gruesome act of killing the pilots, the hijackers had an easy job - to hit a building, which is much easier than properly landing a Cessna on a windy day. Remotely steering a plane into a tower, is also hard and it takes some extra equipment, preparation and rehearsing. The gassing - I guess, in order to avoid a panic, but it may instead cause a panic - is also hard to implement.
There are too many theories on 9/11 underway. Their combined effect is to confuse us, rather than let us nail down the truth. The matter is not easy because the blowing up of three buildings doesn't seem to fit in - for lack of a motive - until you discover it has financial reasons, and serves another set of players.
Posted by: grunzt | Nov 13 2024 23:51 utc | 80
This has yet to be confirmed but it purports to show fairly large fire damage to the uss carrier Abraham. This is big.
Also the Israeli ship that passed through the Suez the other day has been used to intercept some of the ansarallah missiles hitting eliat. I imagine it runs out of ammo shortly and has to transit to Suez again . Stay tuned for those images.
Posted by: Hankster | Nov 13 2024 23:52 utc | 81
gruntz 60
You think planes can't be flown remotely? USUKIS have been planning this genocide in minute detail for 80 years.
Successive generations of politicians have spent their entire political careers crafting this genocide like sculptors and musicians, slowly creating this catastrophe. One generation handing over the creative baton to the next generation, sculpting the lies, smoothing the deceptions.
Like anglers pulling in the lines to catch the fishes' attention. Allowing the Palestinians to breed like fish in order to catch them again in greater quantities.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 14 2024 0:02 utc | 82
1. You are jumping on a piece of info and calling it a smoking gun. It's not. Sure, it's another brick. But it's not the wall that you claim it to be. (This is a common jump to conclusions tendency, some people have.)
2. The US had snippets of intel on the 9-11 plot. In retrospect, sure they missed it. But that doesn't mean they knew about it all along and let it happen. Well...unless you are conspiracy theory type. Probably same thing with the Israelis.
Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 14 2024 0:03 utc | 83
Anonymous 83
Where's PeterAU1's FOT?
Talking of which Australia is THE haven for Bolshevic Jewish Academia.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 14 2024 0:09 utc | 84
I thought this was old news, previously reported in the alt media.
Outlets like the Intercept (years ago when they were cutting edge) reported that Hamas was created with Israeli money because they wanted radical opposition, not moderates like Arafat or Abbas. Once "elected" Hamas cancelled subsequent elections. Retired Israeli military officers stated that they had budgets to fund radical Imams and Mosques in Gaza.
It was obvious from the 6-7 hour stand down, followed by the Sampson option operation and the over-the-top propaganda, that Oct 7 was a false flag.
The subsequent Israeli elimination of Hamas leadership prevented leaks (or extortion) from people at the top who knew the truth.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Nov 14 2024 0:12 utc | 85
Prior to October 2023, the Pentagon shipped to Israel some 10,000 MK-84 900-kilo bombs. Generally, 740 kilos of their mass is made up of uranium. The photos and videos from Gaza testify to their use, for the explosions that they generate are brilliant orange veering on yellow, with a mass of black smoke arising from the conflagration (the burnt uranium particles rising on the up-draft).
These hugely powerful weapons are exclusively offensive and colossally destructive. There is no way that they could have been sent as part of any defense posture of the IDF. One can only conclude that some gigantic war was in the planning, of an entirely offensive nature.
Given the election campaign claims of the Smotrich, Ben-Givr & C° that Israel would have to clear out all the non-Jews, the delivery of these devices of mass destruction fit the bill.
Last June Reuters, claiming a carefully verified source, reported that the total number of MK-84s was 14,000, which means an additional 4,000 since the beginning of the genocide. To this can be added other bombs which, according to their patents, comprise uranium.
The mostly microscopic particles from the burning uranium are ceramic-like and virtually indestructible. The decay chain of uranium lasting 22 billion years, until it becomes stable as lead, the contamination is permanent, as is the case in parts of Iraq (particularly Fallujah) and elsewhere where uranium weapons have been used. A single 2.5-micron particle sitting on lung tissue will irradiate a sphere of 250 to 350 cells permanently -- unless it is dislodged, in which case the blood carries it to the bone since uranium is chemically similar to calcium. Generally, the first illness reported in areas where these weapons have been used is myelogenous (myeloid) leukemia, which develops in a matter of months. The medical literature deals with myeloid leukemia in the context of a result of radiation therapy for cancer.
Somebody should tell the real estate agents swarming the U.S. synagogues on Friday evenings and Saturday mornings, selling beach-front vacation homes in Gaza...
Posted by: RJPJR | Nov 14 2024 0:17 utc | 86
Of course Netanyahu knowingly allowed the Hamas break-out to occur. He needed something to save his political career so that he and his wife Sara would not have to stand trial for corruption and both be given life sentences.
Doubtless other politicians stood to benefit too from letting the Hamas break-out go ahead. Whether they did or not, or they later fell out with Netanyahu over something else, might be something worth considering.
The problem for Netanyahu and any others who hoped to benefit from the break-out is that the consequences did not occur in the way they had hoped for: their genocide in Gaza is not going fast enough, the IDF is too slow in clearing out Hamas fighters, and the weapons, tanks and other materiel from the US are less effective than they were claimed to be.
Perhaps Netanyahu's firing of Yoav Gallant as defence minister has also turned out to be too much for some people, and people connected to Gallant are using his firing as an opportunity to start moving against Netanyahu and push him out of office.
Satanyahu's expiry date is coming faster than he realises, and the irony is that he precipitated it himself through his own criminal actions.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 14 2024 0:22 utc | 87
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Germans are delivering a boomer to Israel:
as if we weren't already close enough to a nuclear conflict....
I hope this finds you well
Posted by: ockham | Nov 14 2024 0:31 utc | 88
2. The US had snippets of intel on the 9-11 plot. In retrospect, sure they missed it. But that doesn't mean they knew about it all along and let it happen. Well...unless you are conspiracy theory type. Probably same thing with the Israelis.
Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 14 2024 0:03 utc | 83
The paper trail, which is proof that the "chosen" people knew all along that 911 was coming, is in the stock market on September 10th, 2001. All the appropriate airline stocks, as well as others, were definitely in play on the 10th.
Not to mention the actual science of why two planes didn't take out 3 buildings, or how it was possible that three building fell perfectly into their own footprint, like controlled demolitions.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Nov 14 2024 0:37 utc | 89
@ 70 Merv
1) Constant decades of brutality towards Palestinians is MIHOP. However that is known and ignored by many, in the sense that Palestinians did not HAVE TO react, and so could not be made to.
2) To roundly make this event occur would involve directing the leadership (whether by coercion, deceit or corruption) into misleading the loyal into a form of ambush (from the perspective of legitimising the destruction of Gaza).
In other words making the event occur by a form of complicity (unwitting or otherwise) of the other.
I don't know Meyssan but watched his video @10. He touches on the factional allegiances of Hamas, MB, Syria and Iran, on the differences between Qatari political Hamas and for example Sinwar. I cannot judge the accuracy or if there is propaganda woven in, but it is roughly in line with how I view this all independent of that spectrum.
The implication was that Hamas (Gaza) is 'directed' (as in furnished) by Iran, as Hezballah and Yemen and Syria. Soleimani was understood as pivotal.
So to MIHOP would be via or in conjunction with Iran, and in fact Sinwar stated clearly that the planned objective of delegitimising "Israel" had been achieved. That is to say Sinwar/Hamas (and respectively to whatever measure Iran) would have to be granted the initiative of MIHOP by somehow fooling "Israel" into allowing the attack (i.e. so that it could be used as a pretext for an attempt a destroying Gaza), but ultimately to cause the downfall of "Israel".
Clearly there is a competition at narrative dominance, and of those at strategic level I am more inclined to believe that Hamas wanted "Israel" to show its face to the world.
However we don't have the information, are not likely to obtain reliable information, on the true chain of events. When we look at the role of Iran as arch enemy of "Israel" we are also at times presented with incongruities.
It is possible to imagine a whole world of manipulations and deceptions. Even the LIHOP as presented above seems somewhat tame compared to how viciously calculating and immoral other scenarios would be.
Most are aware of those other currents, even if they are not, so obvious are they, so close to our surroundings as to fit into what many already concede. We might imagine they flow through other countries also, somehow.
More than anything though, what stands out is that "Israel" is undeserving, and that Hamas (Gaza) are fighting a legitimate battle against a brutal and oppressive regime.
That is all I personally need to know.
The rest of participants will be judged by what side or place they have taken in the evolution of this confrontation. Not by words or excuses, but by their actions and inactions. Most imagine they will write history themselves, or that they will be written in in a complimentary manner.
That is vanity for you, and totaly blind to the wrongs being committed.
Pragmatically, historically, I also know that being on the wrong side as far as moral or ethics are concerned, does not guarantee military victory to the opponent. That is in films, that is because the winner writes the history and so we are usually presented with 'the right side' having won.
Where they still argue over history, over legitimacy, often they return to fighting, the spoils being just an incentive.
"All is vanity".
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 14 2024 0:38 utc | 90
@ Hankster | Nov 13 2024 23:52 utc | 81
thanks.. keep us posted.. 64000 question.. is it legit?
Posted by: james | Nov 14 2024 0:45 utc | 91
You're right. I've said it many times before. Gaza Condos and LNG platforms. Remaining local population will be helots, serving drinks at the Rafah Hilton. If they're lucky.
Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 13 2024 23:15 utc | 71
The missiles falling on Israel will never stop until Israel is gone.
There'll never be time to serve drinks at the Rafah Hilton.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 14 2024 0:45 utc | 92
Since at least one major purpose of the Gaza genocide is to make oil and gas offshore from Gaza available to US firms, one has to wonder whether some powerful Americans were aware of the planning. Like, say, Amos Hochstein, much of whose career has been in oil and gas, and who was once a member of the IDF.
Posted by: Lysias | Nov 14 2024 1:19 utc | 93
Patroklos | Nov 13 2024 19:19 utc | 21
I enjoy your posts but for the love of all things written, please hit the damn return key now and then!
librul | Nov 13 2024 19:20 utc | 22
One thing that has always bothered me is the linking of the linking of the storming of the mosque as an immediate provocation precipitating the Oct 7 cross-border raid. Would Hamas really change their plans based on events a few days before? Seems more like a coincidence to me, the zios were always going to storm the mosque, and the operation was always going to take place on the 7th. Or have I missed something.
anyway this further lifting of the filty rug I call IsHell will be fun to throw in the face of the zio 'acquaintances' I have to deal with in life. I like to frame the news as "Oh no, look what terrible misfortune has befallen poor bibi now! How could this happen? Ohhhh nooo hohoho hahaha!"
How could Hamas not be aware that such activation would alert the Zionists?
karlof1 | Nov 13 2024 19:41 utc | 29
Maybe a case of just gotta bite the bullet and get the ball rolling. Hamas would be well aware that everything electronic would likely pass by zionist algorithms. Maybe they had ruses going on to flood the intel?
How to amplify this important news? It sems clear the minutes could provide the smoking gun evidence needed to prove guilt
karlof1 | Nov 13 2024 19:41 utc | 29
I agree, but most people in the west simply don't care. Sure, they do genuinely believe it's horrible, but they are not going to take one step outside of their comfort zone to do anything about it. They don't make the connection between living in the indulgence of the empire and the suffering of others that makes it happen, and they most definitely don't want to have a conversation about it.
There are too many theories on 9/11 underway. Their combined effect is to confuse us, rather than let us nail down the truth.
grunzt | Nov 13 2024 23:51 utc | 80
After watergate they learned that it's better not to cover things up, far easier to just label any accusations as a conspiracy. As soon as most people hear the word conspiracy they think ufos etc. and dismiss whatever is being said.
Posted by: ineverpost | Nov 14 2024 1:20 utc | 94
Craig Jurray urgent update:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/11/two-weeks-in-beirut/
VERY important, read.
Posted by: Winston | Nov 14 2024 1:43 utc | 95
The 'Best of all possible worlds' by Kris Kristofferson - a good man who passed away recently.
I was runnin' through the summer rain, try'n' to catch that evenin' train
And kill the old familiar pain weavin' through my tangled brain
When I tipped my bottle back and smacked into a cop I didn't see.
That police man said, "Mister Cool, if you ain't drunk, then you're a fool."
I said, "If that's against the law, then tell me why I never saw
A man locked in that jail of yours who wasn't neither black or poor as me?"
Well, that was when someone turned out the lights
And I wound up in jail to spend the night
And dream of all the wine and lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds.
Well, I woke up next mornin' feelin' like my head was gone
And like my thick old tongue was lickin' something sick and wrong
And I told that man I'd sell my soul for something wet and cold as that old cell.
That kindly jailer grinned at me, all eaten up with sympathy
Then poured himself another beer and came and whispered in my ear,
"If booze was just a dime a bottle boy, you couldn't even buy the smell"
I said, "I knew there was something I liked about this town."
But it takes more than that to bring me down, down, down.
'Cause there's still a lot of wine and lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds.
Well, they finally came and told me they was a gonna set me free
And I'd be leavin' town if I knew what was good for me
I said, "It's nice to learn that ev'rybody's so concerned about my health."
I said, "I won't be leavin' no more quicker than I can
'Cause I've enjoyed about as much of this as I can stand
And I don't need this town of yours more than I never needed nothin' else."
'Cause there's still a lot of drinks that I ain't drunk
And lots of pretty thoughts that I ain't thunk
And lord there's still so many lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Nov 14 2024 1:46 utc | 97
Of course it was a false flag! Its been nothing but false flags emanating from the empire of lies and it's matrix of false narratives and sycophants since the end of WWII.
But I'll tell ya that there are those in the west that do see through this and have skin in the game. They were the folks that saw through the unprecedented major false flag of the century. The folks that lost their livelihoods, families and community status simply by saying 'no.' Like the Palestinians saying 'no' to slavery.
The pre-planned con-demic that paved the way for the false flag of Russian aggression and Ukraine's victimhood and the false flag of Israel's victimhood to justify a genocide.
That false flag of 2020-2022 paved the way for the genocides to follow.
Waiting for the bar to connect the dots and acknowledge it.
Cause, without that piece the picture is incomplete.
Posted by: simon crow | Nov 14 2024 2:00 utc | 98
If RF/ukraine is dropped
And us/China is dropped
Then I'm afraid it's bad news for the arab ME
How much? depends. China might like to have iran as a balance to any energy dependence on RF, but it can do without.
RF might like to keep iran as it is a very practical aid to syria, but it still didn't sign off on the umbrella.
I have to admire trump on one thing, as far as trolling is concerned he just made thinks very awkward for iran, china and RF
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 14 2024 2:01 utc | 99
The USA was a colony of Great Britain.
Israel is a colony Of the USA.
All colonies eventually gain their indpendance.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Nov 14 2024 2:15 utc | 100
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Liburl ,
You’ve been vindicated ! Well Done.
Now all you need to do is link to this page and add the title ( only ) when you want to post the info.
Posted by: Exile | Nov 13 2024 17:46 utc | 1