Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 16, 2024
English Outsider On Trump’s Cabinet Of Curiosities And How Little It Matters

Referring to Judge Napolitano discussion with Col Lawrence Wilkerson about Trump and the Defense Department (video) English Outsider writes:

"Yes, the man all hoped would give the quietus to the neocons seems to be appointing neocons himself.

Mercouris has made some valuable preliminary observations on the subject of Trump's appointees so far. Risking paraphrasing him (the reference is to his video of a couple of days back), he considers that these appointments are made mainly to ensure Trump has in place those loyal to him, that consideration over-riding any question of whatever foreign policy stance the prospective nominees may hold.

As said, these are preliminary or tentative conclusions arrived at by Mercouris but I believe they make very good sense. Following on from Mercouris' conclusions are I believe further conclusions on the subject of these somewhat hawkish proposed nominees.

1. It no longer matters what US foreign policy is with respect to Ukraine and maybe with respect to the ME.

The Russians are going to get their "demilitarisation and denazification" in Ukraine whatever the West does or attempts. That has long been apparent and is now apparent to all. So the views of the Trump nominees on Ukraine, and the views of Trump himself on Ukraine, no longer matter when it comes to changing facts on the ground.

Similarly in the ME, whether the appointees are Israel Firsters or not also no longer matters. It looks as if Israel is heading for defeat, but whether it is so or not the outcome can't be altered by the US. Neither Biden nor Trump are going to authorise open and declared war on behalf of Israel and if they did, it's doubtful that American military power is sufficient to change that outcome.

In addition, open and active war against Iran, for instance, would lead to an increase in oil prices and to significant damage to American ships and bases. That is not something Biden has been prepared to risk so far and Trump even less: it would damage his credibility were he to open his Presidency with a major war having given the impression, in his election campaign, that he was opposed to one.

So there's nothing much the US or the West as a whole can do to alter the outcome either of the Ukrainian war or of the conflict in the ME. I haven't read "The Art of the Deal" but I'm sure that Trump recognises that when you sit down to play, the first priority is to recognise the strength of your own hand. Whatever the US hawks may believe, the Pentagon will know that in either case we in the West hold no aces.

2. Given that military impotence the US politicians can follow the example of the Europeans. They can make what threats they please knowing they will not risk putting those threats into practice. We've seen Macron threatening French boots on the ground knowing he's never going to declare war on Russia. We see Scholz and Starmer still impeccably resolute, knowing they will never be at risk of having to back up words with deeds. Now we will see US politicians – have in fact been seeing them for some time – doing the same.

But it's not all sound and fury signifying nothing. In the case of the ME the American politicians have to bear in mind the strength of the voting bloc made up of the Evangelicals, Christian Zionists, Mormons and the various religious sects for who Israel First is an article of faith. That voting bloc is large, in the tens of millions. It was not one Biden wished to offend. It was a necessary component in the portion of the electorate that carried Trump to victory. They need the rhetoric even if the reality falls short of their expectations. By proposing Israel Firsters, and vociferous Israel Firsters at that, Trump has given them that rhetoric.

3. After the defeat in Ukraine, and what looks very likely to be defeat in the ME, the first priority of the politicians will be to save face.

The UK politicians, as we see have seen in the UK press, have their alibi ready for Ukraine. "We would have won had the Americans not let us down. They should have permitted deep strikes. They should have put boots on the ground. They should have threatened nuclear". That alibi ignores the fact that none of those courses would have been practicable. But it will probably serve and most of the UK electorate will be content with it.

No doubt such alibis will be coming out of Europe. It is essential for Trump to have a similar alibi. None can say whether the war will end before Trump's inauguration but if it doesn't, if it's the Trump administration that has to confess defeat, the Democrats will undoubtedly attempt to lay the blame for that defeat at his door. By proposing hawks and thus adopting hawkish rhetoric, Trump will be able to avoid that reproach.

…………………

Are those fair conclusions to draw from Mercouris' observation? Pretty squalid conclusions, if so, but then that's politics. But for me, my judgement of the success of the Trump Presidency will be on quite other grounds. I stated that judgement on Colonel Lang's old site and state it here:

This final stage of the Ukrainian war is leading to quite appalling casualties. The genocide in the ME is not only a tragedy for those suffering. It is an ineradicable stain on Western civilisation and future generations will look back in horror at what we supported and often encouraged.

Trump's Presidency will be judged not by the success of his internal reforms. It will be judged by the extent to which he managed, even before his inauguration, to bring these horrors to an end."

Comments

@Charles | Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:21:00 GMT | 302

Trump likes to pose as against “forever wars” and not a chicken hawk, but what countries did he lift sanctions on? What foreign military bases did he close in Europe, Africa and Asia

He pretty much closed all the bases in Afghanistan with his withdrawal plan that Biden implemented: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation. He also lifted sanctions against Sudan, removing them from the OFAC list: https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/sudan-and-darfur-sanctions
There’s probably more he did, but that answers both your questions.

Posted by: James M. | Nov 17 2024 6:47 utc | 301

Concerning Iran it may be of interest to consider this
Trump’s re-election redistributes the cards by Thierry Meyssan
13 November 2024
https://www.voltairenet.org/article221504.html
“…International relations are changing extremely quickly on several fronts at once.
The last two weeks have shown that Iran has abandoned its revolutionary ideal and distanced itself from its Sunni allies in Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and even Shiites in Lebanese Hezbollah, Iraqi Hashd al-Shaabi and Yemeni Ansar Allah [1]. These points are largely confirmed by the meeting during which Hassan Nasrallah was assassinated by the IDF “thanks” to Iranian information, the confusing statements of Ayatollah Ali Sistani in Iraq, and the measures taken to prevent the assassination of Abdel Malek al-Houthi in Yemen [2].”

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 17 2024 6:58 utc | 302

You can only speak of defeat if you know what the goals were. If in the case of Israel, if their goal was a complete destruction of Gaza and make it uninhabitable and the same for Lebanon can you then speak of a defeat? If in the case of Ukraine the goal was to prevent Ukraine to come under the influence of Russia and become a second Belarus can you then speak of a defeat. Ukraine is destroyed and apart from the south it has no reproductive capacity any more. You can argue but both Russia en Iran have become stronger. But this is a good thing for the military industrial complex. It is not because we see it as a side effect or as collateral damage that it was not the ultimate goal.

Posted by: hubert | Nov 17 2024 7:12 utc | 303

While I harbored hopes that the Trump would be better than Genocide Joe, the liklihood that a U.S. public would be allowed to elect a President who isn’t a War Criminal is nil. Trump just appointed a NeoCon Zionist interventionist war cabinet in the midst of an Israeli Genocide – why should anyone trust him?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 17 2024 7:13 utc | 304

Here is my view: Trump is using these nominations to cabinet-level positions (and, hence, Senate confirmation) to distract attention away from his new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
Despite its name (what’s in a name, anyway?) this will be a Presidential Commission, and therefore does not require Congressional legislation nor do Musk or Ramaswamy require Senate confirmation.
So Trump sets up the DOGE, and its one and only job is to define which Federal departments need to be reorganized – as in, carved up with an axe – and what new structure/organization replaces them after the blood-letting.
Advisory only, yes. Understood. But that’s when all these cabinet-level appointments come in: loyalists to Trump, one and all, and therefore they will accept the recommendations of the DOGE and enthusiastically wield the axe as per those recommendations.
Because that’s the trick that Trump will play on the Deep State: they will fixate on those appointments and then the Gabbard’s and the Gaetz’s will take up their positions and then…… sit on their hands.
Business as usual, and the Deep State will breathe a sigh of relief: these guys aren’t as bad as we feared…..
And it will be a trap: those cabinet level appointees will be waiting, waiting, waiting until the trap is sprung and then they’ll pick up the axe and swing it with wild abandon.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 17 2024 7:18 utc | 305

@84 karlof1 “Odd that there’s zero mention of this:”
“Israel destroying Western-led world order – EU’s Borrell”
Not odd at all. Borrell is in his last week of office before heading off to tend his garden.
So like countless gutless politicians before him he mouths off on a topic knowing full well that his words
(a) can’t ricochet on him and
(b) will be paid no heed.
He’s just saying these things to salve his conscience: nothing more, and no less.
Everyone who matters understands this, which is why they can’t even be bothered to mention it.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 17 2024 7:25 utc | 306

I don’t understand this belief from so many people that Trump’s win – and his nomination of so many Israel-first hacks – means that it is more likely that the USA will go to war with Iran on Israel’s behalf.
This idea that the USA will commit men to fight on behalf of another country’s foreign policy objectives is…. well…. where did that come from?
Think of all the major wars that Israel has fought:
1949
1956
1967
1973
1982
2006
2024
Question: Has the USA ever sent GI’s to fight alongside the IDF in any of those wars?
Answer: No. Not once. Not ever.
Heck, it’s not just Israel. Did the USA sent forces to fight alongside the British in the Falkland Islands?
Again, no. The “special relationship” counted for Jack Shit in that conflict.
The USA will commit troops to foreign lands to prevent opponents from encrouching on some (ill)conceived national security interests of the USA e.g.
Korea War.
Vietnam War.
Gulf War.
GWOT.
But in each case the USA has deluded itself that Someone Else is engaging in acts of aggression.
That’s not the case of Iran, which while clearly a geopolitical rival of Israel is not attempting to seize Israeli territory.
Not. Gonna. Happen.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 17 2024 7:35 utc | 307

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 16 2024 17:38 utc | 54
They use “rules-based order” as opposed to “international anarchy” whose synonym is “the stronger state beats the weaker state”. It’s not such a big deal, just deeply hypocrytical.

Posted by: Skiffer | Nov 16 2024 21:24 utc | 161
Am I understanding correctly that you view the “rules-based order” as another term for “international anarchy” of which you also believe “international law” to somehow be a subset?

No, you’re not. Read again the quote on top. “As opposed” is a phrase used to indicate contrast or difference between two things.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 17 2024 7:42 utc | 308

There is altogether too much copium infusing this discussion of “trump’s picks” and what they mean.
It is impossible to discern anything deeply meaningful from the outside as all the choices trump has made have major flaws, so my initial move thinking about who all these disgusting types are was to split them into ‘keepers’ and ‘scapegoats’.
I don’t see d.trump as some conniving super-being dedicated to bringing ‘democracy’ down. Far from it, I’m not some tds hack, rather I see him as a normal type of mid-grade amerikan capitalist who was given a better start than most. His publicity machine has been tacky as f..k but that was just right for the tabloid corporate media, so he has fallen upwards.
He still wheels and deals as much as he can; some of these deals come off quite well others eg N. Korea & withdrawal from Syria crumbled before his eyes as the agents of military profiteering, actually installed by him, destroyed his plans from the inside.
Trump prides himself on his ability ‘to do a deal’, however many of the deals he has done over the course of his business career, were not particularly good in their primary object of enriching d trump.
So much so, that by the time he first announced his nomination for prez his chief source of income came from his ‘reality’ TV show and its spin off projects. Apart from that, occasionally flogging his name, by 2015 much of that was in central europe and further east where trump’s name still held cachet in some eyes trump would allow his name to be used for an hotel or chintzy apartment block. Trump naturally copped a commish for this but not a very large one.
He was in effect a professional billionaire who lacked the billion dollars but appeared to live the life that many amerikans and others about the planet imagined was how billionaires lived. Gaudy furnishings, trophy wife etc.
It is likely when he ran it was with the idea of providing a host of publicity for himself, his TV show and the name, trump.
What wasn’t initially apparent was the depth of feelings of betrayal by the underclass, millions of amerikans spread across the nation of amerika who were thoroughly disgusted with amerika’s leadership. Trump leaned into that and grew.
Unfortunately in his first term it was quickly obvious he didn’t know what the fuck he was doing. He was acting on impulse and his ‘advisors’ were not giving good, practicable advice. That made him ripe for the plucking and plucked he was, from both within ie daughter & son-in-law who felt they had ownership cos kushner steered him into the wealthy zionism backers, and from the outside as all the old intelligence hacks were not much more competent than trump attacked him using amerika’s own state-owned apparatus.
So he comes into this term more aware of the obstacles and where they are likely to come from, but unfortunately for trump he is still the same barely capable deal-maker.
As a consequence he has used a basic negotiating tactic popular with lazy labour leaders as well as foolishly supercilious corporate types, eager to get the deal closed.
Trump has made an ambit claim. Initially I judged it be be outrageously simple. Trump’s first picks:
Elise Stefanik for UN ambassador
Mike Waltz national security adviser
Lee Zeldin EPA Administrator
Kristi Noem secretary homeland security
Marco Rubio secretary of state
Pete Hegseth secretary of defense
Matt Gaetz attorney general
Tom Homan border czar
Mike Huckabee Ambassador to Israel
Doug Burgum Secretary of the Interior
John Ratcliffe to serve as his CIA director
There’s likely one or two others I’ve missed, all of the people on the list above were considered to be ‘keeper’ either by way of their proven loyalty or because their position had been auctioned off to the highest bidder during the previous 18 months.
However the next so-called 2nd Draft comprising the likes of :
Tulsi Gabbard Director National Intelligence
Robert F. Kennedy Jr secretary Department of Health and Human Services
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy co-leaders of Department of Government Efficiency
are somewhat different, coming from an alternative, maybe no longer required but essential at the time space, d. trump’s onstage campaign stars.
These picks announced around 24 hours after the 1st draft comprise those who I judged to be his ‘ambits’ that is types who trump must be seen to have given his support to thanks to their willingness to campaign for him and allow him to attach their well supported ideas to his prezdency.
But for a deal-maker such as trump loyalty can be tiresome, it will only get you so far and the rest is up to the individual, so if things go bad after trump has made the gesture, so be it.
Now tho, I’m not so certain about the division. It seems that trump’s team hadn’t fully vetted some of the names on the first list or had hoped that any flaws in the resumes of the first draft would be overshadowed by those in the 2nd draft.
It doesn’t seem to be working out that way, eg Matt Gaetz’s nomination has roused wide opposition as has Pete Hegseth’s and they could be sacrificed in a senate trade-off that ignores 2nd draft flaws on the grounds that the position they have been nominated for, is largely powerless therefore not worth worrying about as any short term publicity is likely to be long-term outweighed by their lack of result. Of course in the case of kennedy jnr, he may get some short term gains but even should he get confirmed which isn’t a given, corporate media will tear him apart beating up[ and of the thousands of fuck ups a year that occur in any huge organisation into an excuse to blame kennedy. Frankly I struggle to imagine kennedy will be considered a success by amerikans in four years, no matter how well he actually does.
I dunno how this will play out eventually, what I do know is that it is always an error to attribute omniscience or omnipotence to any of the players on any of the many sides involved. They’re all only of middling competence, simply because few in western countries are still fully tested by circumstance – a good thing in many ways, except for in times such as this..

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 17 2024 7:49 utc | 309

Seyed Mohammad Marandi
@s_m_marandi
As we slept last night, the US-led #GazaHolocaust continued unabated.
Silence is complicity.
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1858019001265164704

Posted by: Menz | Nov 17 2024 8:09 utc | 310

The Cradle
@TheCradleMedia
According to Israeli Channel 12, US President elect Donald Trump has promised Tel Aviv that as soon as he takes office he will remove any “delays” or “restrictions” on the supply of military equipment and ammunition to Israel.
“This promise explains why Israel is ready for a 60-day ceasefire,” the report says.
https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1857451396062404708

Posted by: Menz | Nov 17 2024 8:10 utc | 311

Assal Rad
@AssalRad
🇺🇸: Israel is not deliberately preventing aid
🇮🇱 Media: Israeli soldiers prevented people from getting aid then set fire to it
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1857906199783780386

Posted by: Menz | Nov 17 2024 8:11 utc | 312

Younis Tirawi | يونس
@ytirawi
An Israeli soldier from the 55th
Paratroopers Brigade, who recently stated he was in Jabalia, commented on a video showing a soldier abusing Palestinian detainees in the West Bank:
“In 1989, as paratroopers, we took out the livers of people like this without anesthesia.”
https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1857559772599300120

Posted by: Menz | Nov 17 2024 8:13 utc | 313

Lights out!

Morning rocket attack on the rear of the Ukrainian Theater of Operations.
Results:
-Kh-101/55 cruise missiles launched by Tu-95ms aircraft from the Saratov region of the Russian Federation and the Caspian region;
– cruise missiles Zm14 complex “Caliber”, launched from the Black Sea;
-Kh-59/69/31P guided cruise missiles from the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea;
-Kh-22 supersonic cruise missiles with 4 Tu-22m3 sides from the Black Sea of the Russian Federation;
-9m723 OTRK Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles;
— S-300/S-400 ballistic anti-aircraft guided missiles 5V55/48N6DM from the territory of Crimea and the Belgorod region;
– Kh-47m2 Kinjdal aeroballistic supersonic missiles;
– 3m22 hypersonic cruise missiles of the Zircon complex from Crimea;
-Shahed-Geran, Gerbera and imitation UAVs;
Almost all regions and regional centers were under attack. The target of the attack was the energy sector .
Three arrivals at the gas storage facility in Stryi. Bilce-Wolice underground gas storage facility.
The missile attack lasted 2 hours and 14 minutes , and the Geran UAV attack has been going on for more than 10 hours. Air alert of the enemy for more than 20 hours.
machine translated
https://t.me/svstpl/6496

Posted by: too scents | Nov 17 2024 8:31 utc | 314

@315 Trapezium Oh, sure, material support is something that the USA throws around with abandon. Just think about the war in Ukraine, or the blank cheque given to Israel.
Same with intelligence and targeting information: no skin off Washington’s nose.
But I’m talking about something altogether different: the USA sending troops to fight alongside an “ally” simply because that state says it can’t beat its opponent on its own.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 17 2024 8:35 utc | 315

Well of course. Americans who were too smort to be conned voted for Kamala instead.
Posted by: hopehely | Nov 16 2024 17:34 utc | 49
That you thought it was a choice between one genocide supporting idiot and another genocide supporting idiot rather proves the point on naivety.
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. And Biden was the worst US President in my lifetime.
Trump’s promises mean nothing. The southern border wall he was going to build? And get Mexico to pay for? But his pledge to deport all illegal migrants? Whatever your view on immigration (and clearly the processes in most western countries are out of control, a point exploited by axis of resistance leaders) Trump’s pledge is a fools errand.
His administration won’t have scope for foreign wars or much anything else, because the dotard commander in chief has just created tens of millions of wanted criminals in the nation that incarcerates more of its population than any other country on earth. Already there are more people in prison in the USA than in China. Think about that. Before any of these people can be deported from the US they will have to be detained and processed.
Trump’s promise to deport all undocumented migrants means there is going to have to be a massive building programme for detention centres and a huge expansion in law enforcement as the US economy becomes based upon searching and detaining these millions of people. Likely the system will be privatised, so a bounty hunter will become a viable career for American youth. And the court system will need to expand, unless legislation is brought in to deny the detainee’s rights to appeal. Just look at the UK government ‘Rwanda scheme’ if you want to see the likely unworkable mess that will ensue. Will ‘the deal’ be with Ukraine who need more meat for their grinder? The declining population of The Baltic States? Israel, they must be struggling to get the exploitable Filipino work force? The imbecile in Argentina, who will do anything Trump says?
With total control over the mechanics of government the constitution is likely to be trampled on as ever more authoritarian practices will be needed to get around the court appeal processes. Once the expanded detention system is in place, then it’s quite easy to use the newly acquired powers to detain an ex FBI chief or an Attorney General who didn’t please the President. Perhaps an old lawyer that Trump has fallen out with. More than likely the students and protesters against the genocide of Palestinians. Anyone who protests against environmental destruction. Anyone who looks a bit like an ‘Islamist’. People who don’t say the right thing on twitter. People who post critical thoughts on blogs.
Once the detention camps are built and there is a financial incentive for them to be filled, they’ll be filled one way or another.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 17 2024 8:42 utc | 316

the USA sending troops to fight alongside an “ally”
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 17 2024 8:35 utc | 321

Aaron Bushnell, US Air Force airman reportedly shared secret knowledge of US troops fighting in Hamas tunnels in Gaza, just hours ahead of his death. These were claims made by his friend who spoke to him a day before he killed himself.
A vigil and protest are held outside a U.S. military recruiting center for U.S. Airman Aaron Bushnell, who died after setting himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy in Washington on February 25.(REUTERS)
A vigil and protest are held outside a U.S. military recruiting center for U.S. Airman Aaron Bushnell, who died after setting himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy in Washington on February 25.(REUTERS)
On Sunday morning, 25-year-old airman who served in the Air Force’s 70th Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) Wing, set himself on fire outside the Israeli Embassy over US stand on Gaza crisis. He later succumbed to his injuries.
continues ==> https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/aaron-bushnell-was-privy-to-confidential-intelligence-data-on-us-operations-in-gaza-friend-makes-sensational-claim-101709105818124.html

The Bushnell claim has been thoroughly ignored by US media in spite of it being a simple lead to follow.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 17 2024 8:47 utc | 317

Once the detention camps are built and there is a financial incentive for them to be filled, they’ll be filled one way or another.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 17 2024 8:42 utc | 322

When Trump’s insiders and supporters are rounded up in his purges it will be totally unironic.
What isn’t predictable is who will be the biggest toady to fall pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 17 2024 8:55 utc | 318

A quote from Nelson Mandela –
No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Nov 17 2024 2:49 utc | 257
—————————–
Here’s a nice video:
https://youtu.be/M68evpsDC8M?si=Km5dRAUEou_9bj8d

Posted by: Ivan M. | Nov 17 2024 9:02 utc | 319

Iran completely denies meeting with Trump’s Elon Musk.
Iranian officials deny meeting with Elon Musk
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-denies-meeting-elon-musk
Something is sketchy about this “meeting”….

Posted by: ak74 | Nov 17 2024 9:11 utc | 320

A quote from Nelson Mandela –
Posted by: Ivan M. | Nov 17 2024 9:02 utc | 325

Rogers and Hammerstein set it to music in their 1949 musical “South Pacific”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ve_Got_to_Be_Carefully_Taught

Posted by: too scents | Nov 17 2024 9:13 utc | 321

A bit offtopic but Ukraine related.
Some footage of the well-known massacre of ukrop and mercenary troops in Kursk.
Welcome to Kursk oblast! (legend at the end of the video).
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/5992.mp4?_=3
Ukrops and mercenaries having a blast for the worship of Mickey Mouse and the benjamins!
Only driver and pilot manage to run away.
The rest are kaput or surrender.
Kills by the Irish Drone Attack Group.
Why Irish? The Soviet Union had a lot of symphathy for the IRA.
From SouthFront.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 17 2024 9:23 utc | 322

A surprisingly frank assessment of Ukraine from Megan Stack in today’s (17 November) NYT:
“Trump Can Speed Up the Inevitable in Ukraine”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/opinion/trump-ukraine-russia-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ak4.X7nK.DdAciiQydIaN&smid=url-share
(The link should work for everyone because I am a subscriber an am allowed to share articles.)

Posted by: Clever Dog | Nov 17 2024 9:39 utc | 323

@Clever Dog | Nov 17 2024 9:39 utc | 329
Sure you are allowed to share it, but that doesn’t mean I am allowed to read it. Lol.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 17 2024 10:05 utc | 324

The war in Ukraine will be decided by the Russians.
IMHO, the conflict in the Middle East is not driven by Israel but by Netanyahu in order to keep him out of prison. Trump will give him a face saving solution that keeps the conflict going but doesn’t escalate within the wider region that both knows won’t go well with them.
Trump’s Presidency and subsequent legacy will ultimately be decided on home issues.

Posted by: PacMan | Nov 17 2024 10:19 utc | 325

I understand this blog is primarily dedicated to geopolitics, but there is one personality in Team Trump who seems to be completely ignored here but will in all probability bring forth a stark U-turn very soon.
This personality is RFK jr, and his U-turn will be to go after the extremely corrupt pharma cartel and its unhealthy products. These are no empty words or futile promises; the uncovering of the fraudulent “pandemic” is in full swing right now, the noxious effects of the so-called COVID vaccines are investigated by an army of non-corrupt scientists. So RFK can start to implement his agenda as soon as he takes office.
Jay Bhattacharya, reknowned epidemiologist from Stanford, a vocal critic of “anti-pandemic” measures from lockdowns to vaccinations, will reportedly be the head of NIH.
One geopolitical consequence is the matter of biolabs in Ukraine which Putin himself has addressed because he’s obviously most wary of these because the research there might have been intented do develop genetic weapons aimed specifically at ethnic Russians. The existence of these biolabs has been reluctanty admitted by Victoria Nuland – and heavily criticized by: Tulsi Gabbard.

Posted by: mk | Nov 17 2024 10:30 utc | 326

@mk | Nov 17 2024 10:30 utc | 332
I am waiting in anticipation to see if RFK jr. is able to assume his position and whether he will follow through on the fraudulent “pandemic”.
I hope he is, but I have my doubts. The “democracy” in the US appears to give the election losers a second chance to reject appointments by the election winners. Also, I do not have any trust left whatsoever that if he assumes his position something truly meaningful will happen.
Together withe the ongoing wars, the issue of exposing the realities of the “pandemic” is a defining issue of our times. There must be severe punishment for the enablers. I consider what they did as deadly aggression against the peoples of the world, literally a crime against humanity.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 17 2024 10:44 utc | 327

Good to see Alexander Mercouris of The Duran recognized.
https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuran
https://theduran.com/

Posted by: j rijntjes | Nov 17 2024 10:58 utc | 328

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2024 3:55 utc | 266
“Nato will come apart when Trump normalises the Israeli genocide. All of our European civilisational values have been ignored by the US garbage brains. I see a bright future for Europe in the Russian Federation.”
I really hope you are right about that, but I think it will take some time, and especially for Russia to trust Europe.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 17 2024 11:23 utc | 329

Sure you are allowed to share it, but that doesn’t mean I am allowed to read it. Lol.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 17 2024 10:05 utc | 324
I can read the article and I‘m not a suscriber either. There was a pop up which blocked the article I clicked on it (think it was „continue“).

Posted by: NoName | Nov 17 2024 11:26 utc | 330

I agree with your last words, absolutely.
I agree also that it will be a tough fight for RFK to get through and if so, to implement his plans, but as I said, the foundations to go after the science frauds are laid by decent scientists like Bhattacharya or Kevin McKernan or many others. And good to know to have Musk on your side.
The unresolved Corona/COVID scandal complex adds to the anyhow complex world situation, very difficult to foresee what will happen, but – and here I disagree with you – in the USA it will not be “business at usual”. I expect there will be escalation definitely. We already had 2 assassination attempts, the 1st one – in my conviction – easily to prove as more than a “lone shooter one the roof” thing. And the guy to be assassinated is now going to be president. Will he cave in to his enemies? Hmmm…
What I want to say is: the situation in the US is already volatile and will become more volatile. Many unusual things can happen.

Posted by: mk | Nov 17 2024 11:30 utc | 331

Some Sunday replies before the sermon!
@ Posted by: A rope leash | Nov 16 2024 23:55 utc | 207
“I’ve read that Hitler much admired America’s Manifest Destiny “tactic”. My brother says Adolph was surprised and disappointed that the USA didn’t enter the war on the German side.”
Hitler (or more correctly the delusional Nazi proxies of the Anglo European Ziofascist imperialists of the ages were) was surprised when the USA stopped supporting German victory on the Eastern Front and went to Yalta to arrange the new map of Europe with Germany surrendering unconditionally.
That sort of pisssed of the the dumbest Nazi’s and they retaliated by dropping more doodlebugs on London – the nearest proxy centre and decided to send V2’s to Washington and New York and probably Chicago as a means of that ‘betrayal’.
As you know most senior industrialists and Bankers not only supported Nazism and Hitler their dynasties thrived post war especially the Kennedy and Bush clans as the gangsters who got ‘Made’ and were allowed a Seat At The Table by the highest and mightiest.
That disappointment hasn’t re-surfaced wholly yet that I can see in the still deluded German populations three generations later. They still fully accept that they are a nation that is living under wartime occupation with foreign bases on their soil; making themselves losers again for the age old Target they have tried along with their AngloEuropaens for centuries to conquer – the Slavs, Russia and China as well as the whole of EurAsia.
They are still occupied not by the Red Army who defeated them but the English and Yankeedoodle and their ages old ziofascist Masters, Aristos and Elites.
The ukropian fools are about to find that lesson as well – they too will be just as disappointed. Nazi banderists who have been raised with that western funded and organised by usual suspects.
Unfortunately for them long range missiles are not being manufactured in Ukraine so they can’t rain them on Berlin, Paris, London and Washington as the German Nazis tried to do as revenge!
Where Dresden and the secret bases and camps with their western secrets got incinerated. So far only Azovstal and Bakhmut with its deep mines have been erased of the proofs (yup the cook was caught for that coverup) as have many of the Labs that didn’t fall into the surprise early unexpected deep raids by the flying reds.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 17 2024 11:30 utc | 332

@Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 17 2024 2:05 utc | 246
“TDS is an American phenomenon. I am not an American. People outside of the US don’t have TDS.”
LIAR! Certainly about the U.K. where I have most of my friends and relatives who are smug and deluded as they were about the Bomber Obama and Cackling bloodthirsty Hillary and her CIA hubby as they both were under Bush snr back in the 60’s. Who bombed Yugoslavia and restarted war in Europe with that before setting up the C21st Bush Jnrs grab for glory of West Asia.
All bbc and every single other mainstream media in the U.K. has been non stop anti Trump since he stood against Hillary!
They loved him until then as the US Apprentice Boss!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 17 2024 11:36 utc | 333

Trump will solve the Ukraine problem with consummate ease.
Donbas and Novorossiya will go to Russia.
Western Ukraine to Larry Fink, a modern day version of Austro-Hungarian or Lithuanian-Polish empires.
The nazis will, as usual, migrate to North America under operation Money Clip.

Posted by: necromancer | Nov 17 2024 11:36 utc | 334

@ Posted by: Siddhartha | Nov 17 2024 1:40 utc | 238
“ As John Lennon said in his song ‘A Working Class Hero’ –
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free,
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see.”
Football and WhatsApp and social media addiction nowadays too.
That’s why Lennon had to be assassinated publicly just like JFK for being a peacenik.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 17 2024 11:41 utc | 335

@ mk | Nov 17 2024 11:30 utc | 331
I don’t think we disagree very much, and I share your desire for real change. I just do not take anything for granted anymore, I have seen too much deception and evil.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 17 2024 11:44 utc | 336

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 17 2024 7:49 utc | 309
That sounds about right.
The bunch in the UK/EU are just the same. Not a single working brain cell between them all.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 17 2024 11:56 utc | 337

mk 326
On the contrary your comment is an olive twig in a sea of ejaculated sperm about the success of the US in terrorising and mincing the people of Palestine, Lebanon and Syria.
At least on the Ukraine thread we see excerpts in the history of warfare speculating about known parameters of war. Here , we have people who have had at least a year to ask Trump what he will do as Potus still after voting for him speculating about who or what the man is they voted for.
I do understand the exhilaration of wealth and power. I have tasted them myself on occasions. But three whole pages dedicated to self-congratulation about voting for a zionist in the Middle of a Crusade in West Asia is like an orgy of Islamophobia.
Truly sickening . You voted for the bastard with your eyes closed , then open them to speculate on the politics of your God-forsaken continent you live on, as if there were nothing more important to discuss than the soap of US politics.
I am disgusted by this thread. I am disgusted by the Hopium that looks like Israel will be defeated, and we can all indulge in the Trump Soap. It is very unlikely that Israel will be defeated by an exchange of missiles from Iran or anywhere else.
Israel has already won its objective in this war, to murder all the Palestinians in Gaza, to make it impossible for them to live in the West Bank, impossible for them to seek refuge anywhere else, and to cancel and delete their Islamic culture.
It’s a war aim shared by the entire West and the entire West is partying on the good news for them that Trump will, like a Pope, immediately declare Israel, and Russia in Ukraine, WINNERS.
I have spent a couple of years here, trying as best I can to explain some aspects of Islam to those of our Western community who are not totally brain-dead. Islam tells us not to rejoice, but to take suffering and ease with equal thanks. Pearls before swine.
Now, at the total destruction of Palestine, is not the time to Party.
Within a few years not one Israeli who supported this genocide will live in Palestine. ALLAHU AKBAR.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2024 12:01 utc | 338

@hopehely #94
What Musk has talked about publicly is how Federal regulatory agencies like the DOJ, the EPA, etc etc are increasingly both political and actively obstructing business for no actual benefit.
I have not heard a single word about NERC/FERC, for example.
So I do not understand why you think Musk is going to be attacking anything in that sector.
The parlous state of New York City and San Francisco and LA is not because of their utilities – it is because of their abrogation of basic rule of law, law enforcement, prosecution of crimes, and so forth.
These ARE fully under state and local control.
The FBI has the power to investigate corruption and abuses in state and local police forces, for example, but has no charter to force them to do their fiduciary duty.”
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 16 2024 19:15 utc | 100
Excellent analysis-much beter than the hay syaers having TDS but possess no facts to back up their neurotic behaviour.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 17 2024 12:06 utc | 339

Be seated it’s a long one mostly consisting of JFK.
The sermon is inspired by the following post and the continuing discombobulating about the DJT second term and what track it will take. My observations and perhaps recommendation for his team and supporters if they are looking for any inspiration after a hard won election. I’m sure not.
@ Posted by: Trismegistus | Nov 17 2024 0:06 utc | 208
“We shall all be hard-pressed to escape the deadly rain of nuclear fallout should catastrophe overtake us. The problems which confront us today are unprecedented; they have no counterpart in human experience. Men search the pages of history for solutions, for precedents but alas there are none to be found.”
“We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations but to our fellow men within the human community.”
Thankyou for that Trismegistus ,the whole speech is worth reading it any care to catch up with both after my sermon!
It was in Oct 1963 that Haile Selassie gave that speech to the UN . I was a newborn of a few months at the time. A month before JFK had also made a speech to that UN – hardly remembered these days, if it at all was after his killing! M[square brackets are my comments in the following]
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy%27s_Address_Before_the_18th_General_Assembly_of_the_United_Nations
20th September 1963
‘Twenty-four months ago, when I last had the honor of addressing this body, the shadow of fear lay darkly across the world. The freedom of West Berlin was in immediate peril. Agreement on a neutral Laos seemed remote. The mandate of the United Nations in the Congo was under fire. The financial outlook for this organization was in doubt. Dag Hammarskjold was dead. The doctrine of troika was being pressed in his place, and atmospheric tests had been resumed by the Soviet Union.
Those were anxious days for mankind–and some men wondered aloud whether this organization could survive.’

“The pressures on West Berlin appear to be temporarily eased. Political unity in the Congo has been largely restored. A neutral coalition in Laos, while still in difficulty, is at least in being.”

“Today we may have reached a pause in the cold war–but that is not a lasting peace. A test ban treaty is a milestone–but it is not the millennium. We have not been released from our obligations–we have been given an opportunity. And if we fail to make the most of this moment and this momentum–if we convert our new-found hopes and understandings into new walls and weapons of hostility–if this pause in the cold war merely leads to its renewal and not to its end–then the indictment of posterity will rightly point its finger at us all. But if we can stretch this pause into a period of cooperation–if both sides can now gain new confidence and experience in concrete collaborations for peace–if we can now be as bold and farsighted in the control of deadly weapons as we have been in their creation–then surely this first small step can be the start of a long and fruitful journey.”
[ lol echos afterwards of Startreks ‘To Boldly Go’ and Neil Armstrongs ‘One small step’ – later in the speech he returns to Space ]
“great powers have no monopoly on conflict or ambition. The cold war is not the only expression of tension in this world–and the nuclear race is not the only arms race. Even little wars are dangerous in a nuclear world. The long labor of peace is an undertaking for every nation–and in this effort none of us can remain unaligned. To this goal none can be uncommitted.”
[The Ziofascists knew who he was talking about even if the rest of the World didn’t!
yup he made sure the worlds leaders knew who exactly he was talking about though]
“We believe that the people of Germany and Berlin must be free to reunite their capital and their country.
We believe that the people of Cuba must be free to secure the fruits of the revolution that have been betrayed from within and exploited from without.
In short, we believe that all the world–in Eastern Europe as well as Western, in Southern Africa as well as Northern, in old nations as well as new–that people must be free to choose their own future, without discrimination or dictation, without coercion or subversion.”
[he was speaking of the perceived difference between the US and USSR. A nod to the Old Guard perhaps before going on about how their world must change]
“We have, in recent years, agreed on a limited test ban treaty, on an emergency communications link between our capitals, on a statement of principles for disarmament, on an increase in cultural exchange, on cooperation in outer space, on the peaceful exploration of the Antarctic, and on temporing last year’s crisis over Cuba.”

“building the institutions of peace as we dismantle the engines of war. We must not let failure to agree on all points delay agreements where agreement is possible. And we must not put forward proposals for propaganda purposes.
Finally, in a field where the United States and the Soviet Union have a special capacity–in the field of space–there is room for new cooperation, for further joint efforts in the regulation and exploration of space. I include among these possibilities a joint expedition to the moon. Space offers no problems of sovereignty; by resolution of this Assembly, the members of the United Nations have foresworn any claim to territorial rights in outer space or on celestial bodies, and declared that international law and the United Nations Charter will apply. Why, therefore, should man’s first flight to the moon be a matter of national competition? Why should the United States and the Soviet Union, in preparing for such expeditions, become involved in immense duplications of research, construction, and expenditure? Surely we should explore whether the scientists and astronauts of our two countries–indeed of all the world–cannot work together in the conquest of space, sending someday in this decade to the moon not the representatives of a single nation, but the representatives of all of our countries.”
[He had completely missed out China, India and Japan as well as the European space ambitions – but given the positions of the still downtrodden he can be forgiven- later Nixon got going on it]
“The contest will continue–the contest between those who see a monolithic world and those who believe in diversity–but it should be a contest in leadership and responsibility instead of destruction, a contest in achievement instead of intimidation. Speaking for the United States of America, I welcome such a contest.”
[ yup he was talking directly to the unipolar, end of history, fascists of the US there against the mutipolar that was actually the way forward- cool eh?]
“The effort to improve the conditions of man, however, is not a task for the few. It is the task of all nations–acting alone, acting in groups, acting in the United Nations, for plague and pestilence, and plunder and pollution, the hazards of nature, and the hunger of children are the foes of every nation. The earth, the sea, and the air are the concern of every nation. And science, technology, and education can be the ally of every nation.
Never before has man had such capacity to control his own environment, to end thirst and hunger, to conquer poverty and disease, to banish illiteracy and massive human misery. We have the power to make this the best generation of mankind in the history of the world–or to make it the last.”
[ making it plain to the global neocons gathering to make that unipolar world with its first world and the Rest what is now the Garden and the Rest – jfk continued with the idealistic notions of World Health, Disease, Environmentalism and then finished with the appeal to his own racists at home, the Imperial supremacists and the emerging Global South demanding that change]
“But man does not live by bread alone–and the members of this organization are committed by the Charter to promote and respect human rights. Those rights are not respected when a Buddhist priest is driven from his pagoda, when a synagogue is shut down, when a Protestant church cannot open a mission, when a Cardinal is forced into hiding, or when a crowded church service is bombed. The United States of America is opposed to discrimination and persecution on grounds of race and religion anywhere in the world, including our own Nation. We are working to right the wrongs of our own country.
Through legislation and administrative action, through moral and legal commitment this Government has launched a determined effort to rid our Nation of discrimination which has existed far too long–in education, in housing, in transportation, in employment, in the civil service, in recreation, and in places of public accommodation. And therefore, in this or any other forum, we do not hesitate to condemn racial or religious injustice, whether committed or permitted by friend or foe.
I know that some of you have experienced discrimination in this country. But I ask you to believe me when I tell you that this is not the wish of most Americans–that we share your regret and resentment– and that we intend to end such practices for all time to come, not only for our visitors, but for our own citizens as well.
I hope that not only our Nation but all other multiracial societies will meet these standards of fairness and justice. We are opposed to apartheid and all forms of human oppression. We do not advocate the rights of black Africans in order to drive out white Africans. Our concern is the right of all men to equal protection under the law–and since human rights are indivisible, this body cannot stand aside when those rights are abused and neglected by any member state.

“It is, for example, most important not to jeopardize the extraordinary United Nations gains in the Congo. The nation which sought this organization’s help only 3 years ago has now asked the United Nations’ presence to remain a little longer. I believe this Assembly should do what is necessary to preserve the gains already made and to protect the new nation in its struggle for progress. “
[that would have pissed off the Belgians and its colleagues in exploitation of the Congo! He really was reading the riot act to the Imperialsits hanging on their Colonial conquests. Finishing with
JFK finished that great path setting speech with : ]
“Archimedes, in explaining the principles of the lever, was said to have declared to his friends: “Give me a place where I can stand–and I shall move the world.”
My fellow inhabitants of this planet: Let us take our stand here in this Assembly of nations. And let us see if we, in our own time, can move the world to a just and lasting peace.”
————-
It was September 1963 he gave that speech to the UN
Followed some weeks later by Haile Selassie speech 1963.
A month later JFK was shot dead in Dallas on his way to give a major speech and launch his campaign for his second term.
The Izzy Nukes. Gulf of Tolkien and various aggressions and false flags were planned and not be put off! Ancient Pirates with their modern WMD and new Aircraft Carriers, Super bombers and omniscience with spy planes and coming satellites. They thought they had what the Nazi Germans didn’t quite develop in time to deliver – the forever Greater Goals of World Domination! The crazed ancient ambitions ziofascists and Banker overlords of Anglo European imperialism of the centuries. A return also of their Khazar Empire in EurAsia.
They thought they had Africa and South America in the bag and were gunning for the World Island and Pacific as usual.
Well those ancients, except India, understood how they could resist and maybe one day subdue the pirates if they could survive. And they did. Helping the Bolivarians and many African nations, starting with helping Cuba and that Crisis 12 months previously.
That moment of Armageddon that sent JFK off piste as far as his sponsors were concerned, including most importantly his Father, the gangster associated , Nazi supporting Joe, the ziofascist creatures who demanded a few pounds of flesh. Brain matter for that supposed treachery by ‘their boy’. Yup another Bush was there to help deliver and cover up for it.
Trump elected in 2016 did what Clinton, Obama and Biden didn’t do – to open and acknowledge that great sacrifice of a visionary potus seeking peace and Multipolarity!
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Temporary_Certification_for_Certain_Records_Related_to_the_Assassination_of_President_John_F._Kennedy
Heavily redacted then still! So with this reelection- with the last surviving generation born to JFK and RFK on board. That history must surely be opened .
That will finally blow off the blinkers of the smug liberal westerners who see things in black and white – we are the actual bad guys and fascist supporters deluded to believe the opposite.
These beliefs and bogeymen installed by our trusted media and cultural hegemonies is the enemy of humanity – be it Putin, Xi or Drumpff!
Well The Donald has the opportunity that was robbed from him of a second term, that was denied JFK by murder and equally of RFK looking to complete his brothers work and vision.
The ZiofascIsts would not let him stand! The assassination era – only Ancient Bastards used to such Gangsterish methods would use them so freely without thinking twice; as they have been doing right up to date in Iran and Lebanon.
So has The Donald got the Legs and Balls to fill his Trousers ?
Will he finish what JFK started? Will he reveal who really killed him and why?
Will RFK jnr expect anything less for the support he brought?
Will DJT join the Multipolarity or will he lead the Collective Waste into the continued delusion of a unipolar Purdah, like a bride abandoned at the altar?
Amen.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 17 2024 12:07 utc | 340

‘Heated Exchange’: Rattansi v Gorka
https://GUnderground_TV//status/1857807991069659167
“Afshin Rattansi clashes with Dr Sebastian Gorka, tipped to be Donald Trump’s Deputy National Security Adviser, after he says there is no genocide in Gaza and that Palestine doesn’t exist.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2024 12:08 utc | 341

“My son voted for Trump even though he had his reservations. He couldn’t take the Woke crap.”
Posted by: Old Woman | Nov 16 2024 19:05 utc | 93
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“the woke crap” was something else before Republicans turned it into “woke crap.” But I agree that Democrats made it easy for the MAGA crowd to turn an anti-Racist term into a pro-gay (LGBQT) red flag. It’s kind of like all MAGA voters are low-class hillbillies: You can pin that one on Hillary Clinton, who I did not vote for either.
Woke only meant that some people were alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination. For example, most people who read and respond to MoA are opposed to the genocide in Gaza or the expansion of NATO towards Russia. In the West, most people are oblivious to these issues, but I know them. So, the anti-woke crowd is opposed to something only because they have also become woke to the issues themselves: You can’t oppose what you are unaware of; it is all political bullshit propaganda for small-minded people.
Posted by: Ed | Nov 16 2024 19:38 utc | 118
Ed there was NO Woke Crap until the Democrats championed the cause-you are way, way off base and officially retarded or you are a nasty troll?

Posted by: canuck | Nov 17 2024 12:12 utc | 342

From above: Rattansi v Gorka
https://x.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1857807991069659167
What a vile and pompous piece of work is Dr G with an accent that matches perfectly.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 17 2024 12:16 utc | 343

“I am disgusted by this thread. …”
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2024 12:01 utc | 338
Then please fucking leave; your uneducated but prolific, childish posts are anathema to any serious discussion

Posted by: canuck | Nov 17 2024 12:30 utc | 344

Aleph_Null | Nov 16 2024 19:52 utc | 123
You expecting Trump2 to be much worse than Trump1?
You might be right. Usually might is right, anyway …
I think Trump might prove to be more demented than the self-propelled President especially after 2026 midterms.
The defeat in “West Asia” and the exodus and naturalization of the Russian Israelis to AZ could be too much to stomach even for him.
Marduk bless America.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 17 2024 12:34 utc | 345

> The parlous state of New York City and San Francisco and LA is not because of their utilities – it is because of their abrogation of basic rule of law, law enforcement, prosecution of crimes, and so forth.
Mind the causality. It’s primarily because the transnational rulers of NATO-USA outsourced jobs, insourced labor, spent 10%?* of GDP on war, and devalued the currency for DECADES. As a RESULT, all the cities in NATO-USA are failing. This is only partly the fault of the greedy corrupt bumbling “mayors” in any one city.
Imagine an admiral ordering one after another of his ships into a typhoon and then everyone onshore blaming the successive captains for sinking their ships. If you don’t constantly remind yourself about the typhoon and the admirals, it’s easy and then habitual to mock the captains.
* No one can prove otherwise because nothing is audited.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 17 2024 12:35 utc | 346

@John Gilberts | Nov 17 2024 12:16 utc | 343
It is impossible to find words to properly characterize what this “Dr G” is saying about Palestine and the Palestinian people. Where do they find such creatures?

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 17 2024 12:40 utc | 347

@ Giyane
I always read your comments and understand your exasperation. People appropriately mocked Pelosi’s “we have to pass the legislation in order to see what’s in it” and then some of those people turned around and voted for someone who makes wild contradictory statements to the point they don’t know how he’ll govern until after they elect him. And then many of those people claim you, me, etc have some sort of “TDS” — as though we visit MoA straight after watching Rachel Madcow.
It’s very disappointing. Worse, I have nothing to say to help make you or me feel better.
…oh, wait, maybe this will make you feel better: “Islam tells us not to rejoice, but to take suffering and ease with equal thanks.” So, maybe follow your own advice, good sir? 😉
As for me, unfortunately your guidance doesn’t help. I’ll just go sulk in the corner, then maybe get some fresh air.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 17 2024 12:53 utc | 348

ZT @70:“…re-industrialization in America is IMPOSSIBLE without global US financial hegemony/dollar supremacy and the concomitant ability to run high deficits.”
Since this assertion seems to have gotten some eyeballs, it must be pointed out to be an inversion of reality. In fact, the US cannot re-industrialize while US financial hegemony continues. To claim otherwise is to completely misunderstand how capitalism works, and on a very basic and fundamental level at that.
What motivates investors to invest? The desire to make a profit, and in fact to get the biggest return possible for their investment. Global financial hegemony assures those greatest returns for big investors will be in finance. That’s sorta the whole point to global financial hegemony.
Now, if investment in the US were not profit driven and instead publicly managed, you’d have a chance at that re-industrialization, but then you wouldn’t have global financial hegemony. Oh well, you cannot have both.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 17 2024 12:55 utc | 349

@ canuck | Nov 17 2024 12:12 utc | 342
I suspect TPTB chose the D’s to invent and champion trans issues like “subsidized experimental sex-change operations for kids without parental consent” and “pronoun madness” as a new wedge. Perhaps they felt the abortion issue “wasn’t enough” anymore. Or they simply must introduce various new issues in order to repeatedly re-divide the serfs. Or competitively differentiate the Empire versus other geopolitical foes who happen to maintain traditional gender norms.
BTW, I still use the word “woke” as a positive, because I suspect TPTB want to turn the word into a negative meme — like “conspiracy theory”. “Woke” is good, whereas “subsidized experimental sex-change operations for kids without parental consent” is not so good.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 17 2024 13:06 utc | 350

Response to -B-
If you want to romanticize or make excuses for Trump 1.0 term, as if it were not simply an advancement of Obama’s set course by the “inter-agency”,throwing in a Pandemic for extra splash, fine. I don’t understand the rose colored glasses thing people have about Trump, and certainly he is the lesser evil if one evaluates “decent” by that standard.
But Trump 2.0 is a Netanyahu move.
Trump will do whatever he needs to to stay out of prison, period.
It’s insulting to hear “Trump’s trumped up charges-they’re after him”… stuff. He comes from a long line of corruption as they all do, and every single one of the DC’ers and most oligarchs belong in prison, at least if they were a “common” person, they would have been locked up ages ago.
There are so many charges against him, and so far, one indictment, so he is owned.
He’ll do whatever he needs to to stay out of prison.
Most of these appointments, like Gabbard & Gantz , have to be confirmed by the Senate. They will not get confirmed. Trump can throw his hands up “I tried”…
The rest will be gone in 24-30 months if they last that long.
Trump will not bring “peace” to Ukraine, Russia will.
As for Iran, the money changers (Fed Reserve) hold the cards there, it’s a great opportunity to print away…and hurt China, so who knows?
Frankly, the US hasn’t had a candidate for decades that cared about the U.S., hence, the current state of the U.S.
I often wonder, had I been a Soviet Citizen, when the end came, the collapse came, what would I have been feeling, thinking? I mean if citizens were honest, I bet many were:
“Oh Thank God this place is finished”, “finally.. we can do something different…”
“Different” isn’t always better, as the first 20 years proved, but it is also proven that it can be better with work. There are many US citizens looking for that “better”. IMO, Trump and ilk aren’t it, change requires a fresh vision, power to implement it and none of them have either, as expected.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 17 2024 13:16 utc | 351

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, used to be one of the quite good guys – that I’m afraid appears to have changed.
Brazilian First Lady Janja Lula da Silva publicly called out billionaire X owner Elon Musk during a G20 social event in Brazil. The country will host the group’s summit next week.
While speaking, the first lady was interrupted by a ship horn, prompting her to say, “It’s Elon Musk,” before adding, “I’m not afraid of you, f**k you, Elon Musk.”
““I asked [Lula’s emissary] whether Lula had been corrupted and for how long. It was obvious that this question made him extremely uncomfortable. After a long pause, he admitted that Lula was part of the system. “Otherwise, how could he have risen to such a position?””
John Perkins.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 17 2024 13:19 utc | 352

““I asked [Lula’s emissary] whether Lula had been corrupted and for how long. It was obvious that this question made him extremely uncomfortable. After a long pause, he admitted that Lula was part of the system. “Otherwise, how could he have risen to such a position?””
John Perkins.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 17 2024 13:19 utc | 352
I used to like Lula a few years ago; either I was stupid [happens alot to Canuk, editor] or he got bribed, drugged or coerced into joining the Empire.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 17 2024 13:27 utc | 353

In my opinion….
Judgeing cannock by his posts over the short time he’s sadly been commenting here.
Its clear to me that he is a….
Eugenacist. Pro eugenics.
But make your own judgement, i’m jus sayin.
Jus call me Sherlock.
View his last post.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 17 2024 13:33 utc | 354

Correction comments from cannock on this thread.
And i’l add while im back here.
Of couse hitler was big on eugenics.
The jews and zionists are to.
Democrats ? Check.
Trump most definatly.
Gruff ? Beyound doubt, check.
You ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 17 2024 13:41 utc | 355

“@ canuck | Nov 17 2024 12:12 utc | 342
I suspect TPTB chose the D’s to invent and champion trans issues like “subsidized experimental sex-change operations for kids without parental consent” and “pronoun madness” as a new wedge. Perhaps they felt the abortion issue “wasn’t enough” anymore. Or they simply must introduce various new issues in order to repeatedly re-divide the serfs. Or competitively differentiate the Empire versus other geopolitical foes who happen to maintain traditional gender norms.”
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 17 2024 13:06 utc | 350
Prodigious analysis.
Although I use ‘Woke’ in a negative sense, your reasoning for the opposite position is sound.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 17 2024 13:46 utc | 356

In response Johan Kaspar@308,
Appreciate the clarification, but for the record, saying “They use X as opposed to Y” puts emphasis on “They use” implying that “they” could use X or Y interchangeably. “They use green socks as opposed to red socks.” does not make green socks the antithesis of red socks, but a plausible alternative, all other things being equal.
Of course, the rules-based order being functionally equivalent to international anarchy, with international law being the odd man out, makes it all the more confusing. Perhaps you intended to write “in opposition to” as that would get the distinction across. Cheers.

Posted by: Skiffer | Nov 17 2024 13:56 utc | 357

“What are we gonna do now. Let Russia take Ukraine?”- remark made yesterday, from a retired teacher, a tv watching Democrat with the required case of TDS.
Also she said, “I wish I could get through to people.” (how correct the Democrats, are and how very wrong Trump is. How Kamala was obviously the wise choice.)
Unfortunately, she is representative of millions of American “politically informed” Voters/citizens.
Then, there are the MAGA rednecks. They’ve never heard of Peter Thiel or Roy Cohn. And they care not for all the poor rubes that got stung by Trump Sales and Services. Or that he’s the self-proclaimed father of the vaccine. Or that he said, “Take the guns first. Due Process second.”
Everyone loves the police until they’re personally impacted with police brutality, arrest, etc.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 17 2024 14:07 utc | 358

For american PTB the mass deaths in both Ukraine and Russia have been a plus not a minus.
The Genacide in the Middle east also a plus to eugenacists. And will esculate throughtout the M,East. For them a plus not a minus.
The virus clearly was an american tool of eugenics.
Next it will be mass opression of the US working and middle class (thats you) and mass murder by any meens. you / we are not needed.
They’v got ‘AI’
The border problem is a distraction to hered the sheeple. Is that you ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 17 2024 14:07 utc | 359

Posted by: Skiffer | Nov 17 2024 13:56 utc | 357
The users of this oft-repeated expression, “rules-based order”, do not mean that they want everybody to follow their made-up rules instead of international law. They mean that they don’t want “international anarchy” (hypocritically of course), they want rules in the interactions of states. They consider that “rules-based order” means “international law plus diplomatic rules”. That’s all. No big deal, except the hypocrisy. Clear now?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Nov 17 2024 14:16 utc | 360

Trump will bring change, for sure!
But it will be just a different kind of BAD.
Things will turn less predictable to go boom.
trump stems from an environment where
throwing shit at a fan is inconsequential.

Posted by: MAKK | Nov 17 2024 14:17 utc | 361

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2024 5:44 utc | 293
Your comment sums up everything I currently feel about the USA.
I totally agree.

Posted by: Nokaz | Nov 17 2024 14:38 utc | 362

If you don’t vote you don’t count, and your nonvote doesn’t count, and if you were part of a majority or even a minority of eligible voters who didn’t exercise their franchise, then you don’t count in the assessment of the outcome.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 4:05 utc | 267
You are the one complaining that a huge number people who usually are non-voters voted in 2020.
You can’t have it both ways. You claim they don’t exist if they don’t vote and you claim they don’t exist if they do vote.
The fact is because of the US electoral voting system, 90% of eligible voters know that their one vote will not make any difference. In other words, those 90% know that even if they exercise their franchise, they don’t count in the assessment of the outcome. Trump won in 2016 because he won WI, PA and GA. Trump lost those states in 2020 and won them again in 2024. Those three states decided all 3 elections. Those are the states where a single voter had a chance to affect the outcome. In 2020 Biden got 7.56 million in those 3 states and in 2024 Harris got 7.63 votes in 2024. Harris had more votes than Biden and still lost. If you are interested in what changed from 2020 to 2024 it was not the Dem votes in the states that count it was the votes for Trump. If you think an increase in voter turnout is evidence of fraud then you would have to believe there was fraud to get Trump elected in 2024.
The story that 10 million Dem votes stole the election in 2020 cannot possibly be true because those 10 million votes were all in states that did not affect the outcome of the election. Take all 10 million votes away and Biden would still have beat Trump by the same number of electoral votes.
The fact is there were about 18 million more votes in 2020 over 2016. If you didn’t know that its because you haven’t been paying attention. However, TPTB do pay attention and they like what Trump has done to make the gullible believe voting for president matters.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 14:45 utc | 363

Now, if investment in the US were not profit driven and instead publicly managed, you’d have a chance at that re-industrialization, but then you wouldn’t have global financial hegemony. Oh well, you cannot have both.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 17 2024 12:55 utc | 349
You may think that but if TPTB study history, they may think the WWII model for re-industrialization looks pretty good. They may think it is how you can have both hegemony and strong industry managed by the government. So now all they need is a False-Flag like Pearl Harbor and they’re off to the races.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 14:51 utc | 364

@ English Outsider | Nov 16 2024 21:45 utc | 178
thanks… yes, i did post their less then a month ago.. someone here at moa had shared the link and i didn’t realize it was back running..apology accepted,but not needed! i only posted and then never went back to see the responses! in fact, i just figured ttg moderating it probably wouldn’t go thru..

It was obviously not you, E.O insulted, james, but James, spelled with “J”. Happened one day before the blog was gone. For me yesterday. No renewal by PL’s family. …
Once upon a time both here and on PL’s blog there were two James. You and him were sometimes at odds, which apparently was the basis of E.O. insult. The “James” present, was flip-flopping in his stance on TTG’s version of Pat Lang’s old blog, Turcopolier.com versus here on MOA, he told whomever he felt should know. That James obviously did not agree with him. 😉
Maybe PL at one point insisted on this differentiation. There is a vague memory trail, that initially none of you used capital j.

Posted by: LeaNder | Nov 17 2024 15:05 utc | 365

It looks as if Israel is heading for defeat, but whether it is so or not the outcome can’t be altered by the US.

Of this is what “losing” looks like, I hate to think how the Palestinians would be faring if Israel were winning.
The vast majority of Gazans will probably be dead by the time Trump gets into office, and there are few (read: no) signs he’ll be any less supportive of the genocide than Biden-Harris are

Posted by: observer | Nov 17 2024 15:08 utc | 366

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 16 2024 17:01 utc | 41
agree re: that whole crew on Judge Nap.

Posted by: LindaJ | Nov 17 2024 15:19 utc | 367

@Siddhartha #245
People cheat on both sides, but show me a Republican example where a literally historically massive anomalous spike in votes occurred.
Or put more succinctly: how can anyone with 3 brain cells think Biden in 2020 earned more votes than Obama in 2008?
Is Biden a better speaker?
Is Biden a historic first black president?
Is Biden smarter? More mentally fit?
Puh-lease.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:23 utc | 368

@LoveDonbass #248
Utter bollocks.
Foreigners actually have MORE TDS, because they don’t live in the US and don’t understand that the Democrat party is now the party of the rich and the warmongers.
Maybe someday you will say something remotely objectively intelligent – so far, nothing.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:24 utc | 369

@Markw #253
I suspect you are right – and furthermore that this individual is not just Canadian, not just credentialed class, but is of the “pro democracy” Chiang Kai Shek Chinese diaspora. Say in Vancouver but could be Ottawa as well.
If there is a group of more TDS fools than the American elites – it would be the Canadian ones.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:26 utc | 370

@snake #258
Is there a human right to illegally stay in a country? I have never heard of this.
I’m not talking about putting them in gas chambers.
I am talking about finding them and sending them home.
Furthermore, even the so-called legitimate asylum seekers – have materially hurt those who followed the rules and are still waiting for their approvals.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:29 utc | 371

@jinn #261
Yes, I do.
And as a practicing professional with first hand expertise in investigating fraud, both on the prosecution and defense side, I have a very clear understanding of criminal, criminogenic or merely potentially criminal circumstances.
This is why I did not say that the 2020 election was potentially illegally stolen until I saw the results in this election.
The massive dropoff is enormous enough that investigation is warranted.
All your reasons revolve around excuses for why this cannot possibly be illegal – none of which actually mean diddly squat in the legal realm.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:34 utc | 372

@ZT #281
It is sad that you have no idea just how confused you are.
Yes, China ran a historic trade surplus with the US.
But only a fool like you, would fail to ask how could China do that? Why doesn’t every other country do this one simple trick?
Because it isn’t that simple, yo.
In the weekly summary thread – I talked about how China has printed money faster than the US did, relative to GDP, in World War 2. Only they have done it for 40 years.
This printed money was not used to shore up bullshit like woke and solar PV and wind, although some of it did. Most of it, even in the solar PV/wind/EV space, went to building factories, training people, building infrastructure in the classic economist/mercantile model.
It is the factories and people and education and infrastructure that led to the massive trade surplus – not the other way around.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:38 utc | 373

@ZT #281
It is sad that you have no idea just how confused you are.
Yes, China ran a historic trade surplus with the US.
But only a fool like you, would fail to ask how could China do that? Why doesn’t every other country do this one simple trick?
Because it isn’t that simple, yo.
In the weekly summary thread – I talked about how China has printed money faster than the US did, relative to GDP, in World War 2. Only they have done it for 40 years.
This printed money was not used to shore up bullshit like woke and solar PV and wind, although some of it did. Most of it, even in the solar PV/wind/EV space, went to building factories, training people, building infrastructure in the classic economist/mercantile model.
It is the factories and people and education and infrastructure that led to the massive trade surplus – not the other way around.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:39 utc | 374

@Tom_Q_Collins #297
No, what I am is an American Patriot.
I am a person who believes that Americans deserve a government that prioritizes their welfare over the elites above them.
To me, you keep reinforcing that you are just another TDS sore loser perhaps looking at losing his rice bowl.
You continually complain about the RED team, when it is the BLUE team that is the party of elites that are literally destroying the American middle class in particular and America in general. This is not a belief, it is a fact born out by data going back decades.
But unlike you, I am a credentialed, educated and successful person who recognizes that this country is going the wrong direction because it is failing most of its citizens even if I am doing very, very well.
Your name calling, DGAF.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:44 utc | 375

@Tom_Q_Collins #299
Go back and look at the graph again, yo.
Why do I have to spell out obvious shit? Are you really that dumb?
Do you really believe Senile Joe Biden is so much greater a leader to inspire more votes than Obama in 2008?
Well, maybe you do.
Slavish devotees to the Democrats are frequently too stupid to pour piss out of a boot that has instructions on the heel.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:46 utc | 376

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:23 utc | 368 Typically deceitful in arbitrarily limiting it to Republicans. Even there of course, the election of 1860 counts as a Republican example. A massive spike in the majority is common when an incumbent is widely despised. See Hoover 1932. Reagan’s election in 1980 against an unpopular president was another spike in turnout for Republicans. Large turnout is not a proof of fraud, that’s a lie.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 17 2024 16:51 utc | 377

Or put more succinctly: how can anyone with 3 brain cells think Biden in 2020 earned more votes than Obama in 2008?
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:23 utc | 368
if you lived in America and talked to voters in 2020 you would know that Trump earned the vast majority of blue votes. Those votes were NO votes. Clinton got lots of NO votes in 2016.
Your dishonest questions are just a way of avoiding the simple fact that the millions of extra votes for Biden did not get Biden elected. Those extra votes were in states that the electoral votes were already decided. The 2024 election confirmed there were no extra votes for Biden in the 3 states that determined the election in 2020.
Harris in 2024 got more votes than Biden in those 3 states.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 17:08 utc | 378

It looks as if Israel is heading for defeat, but whether it is so or not the outcome can’t be altered by the US.

Of this is what “losing” looks like, I hate to think how the Palestinians would be faring if Israel were winning.
The vast majority of Gazans will probably be dead by the time Trump gets into office, and there are few (read: no) signs he’ll be any less supportive of the genocide than Biden-Harris are

Posted by: observer | Nov 17 2024 17:08 utc | 379

And as a practicing professional with first hand expertise in investigating fraud
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:34 utc | 372
This is the internet anybody can claim they are anything. You do seem to be expert at making fraudulent statements.
There were investigations in many states. The courts reviewed the evidence. Arizona spent six months going over the ballots with microscopes in their attempt to find fraud.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 17:14 utc | 380

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:46 utc | 376
The more you post the more you appear c1ue-less.
Another American Patriot, just what the world needs. I’m sure we’re all thrilled that you’re “doing very very well”.
Number of electoral votes in 2020 increased compared to 2008 largely due to the effect of social media. Every moron is now engaged in bullshit party politics as they have a mainline feed of their preferred propaganda direct to their phone. You’re a wonderful example.
There was a drop off in number of votes in 2024 because both uniparty candidates were supporting a genocide. Normal people aren’t keen on genocide and there appears to still be millions of normal people in the US.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 17 2024 17:25 utc | 381

While it’s possible that Trump is engaged in 5-Day chess to throw neocons off his trail with his Zionist appointments it is more likely that he is just going along with the NeoCon / MIC agenda and he is really just throwing off the Independents by pretending to be a peace candidate. There are 3 things that are certain in life, Death, Taxes and a War Criminal US President.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 17 2024 17:37 utc | 382

@Charles | Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:21:00 GMT | 302
Trump likes to pose as against “forever wars” and not a chicken hawk, but what countries did he lift sanctions on? What foreign military bases did he close in Europe, Africa and Asia
He pretty much closed all the bases in Afghanistan with his withdrawal plan that Biden implemented: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation. He also lifted sanctions against Sudan, removing them from the OFAC list: https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/sudan-and-darfur-sanctions
There’s probably more he did, but that answers both your questions.
Posted by: James M. | Nov 17 2024 6:47 utc | 301

I forgot to add an exception for Afghanistan, a multi-trillion dollar disaster he wanted to pull out of. What I was referring to was the large military base presence the USA has in it’s vassal states (e.g. Germany) for the purpose of world domination. Afghanistan was country that the USA was occupying for almost two decades.
Trump increased sanctions on Russia. I doubt that there was a net decrease in sanctions under Trump, the purported dove.

Posted by: Charles | Nov 17 2024 17:40 utc | 383

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 17 2024 17:37 utc | 382
A long line of war criminal US Presidents makes the American Patriots so proud. The first country to do two genocides.
If only there was a Kinzhal for every Patriot. Hang on, there is.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 17 2024 17:43 utc | 384

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 17 2024 16:23 utc | 368
Biden got more than 4 million votes more than Obama in California alone, but how do those extra votes contribute anything to changing the electoral outcome in 2020?
In Illinois and New York, Biden got another 2 million more votes than Obama, but how does that in anyway support your fraudulent statements that the election was stolen.
Your fraudulent statements are based on repeatedly pointing to facts that are irrelevant and carefully avoiding the facts that matter.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 17:44 utc | 385

Trumps plan to make america great again is to make the rest of the world ‘less great’
Thanks but no thanks.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 17 2024 17:48 utc | 386

Yes, but if the evidence points strongly in the other direction, you might want to reconsider your positions. Also if you’re going to make accusations, at least get the basic facts right – like the 2024 vote totals, instead of relying on faulty graphs and other misinformation. There are plausible explanations for the increase in votes in 2020, but I don’t suppose you’ve looked into those.
Posted by: James M. | Nov 17 2024 5:05 utc | 283
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James leaves out where I mention a court of law when it comes to getting “the basic facts right.”
The “basic facts” have never to my knowledge been established regarding the the 2020 spikes.
Also, a close reading would show that I didn’t “make accusations.”
Again, regarding putatively dodgy graphs, take it up with B.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 17:51 utc | 387

Jin 363″You are the one complaining that a huge number people who usually are non-voters voted in 2020. ”
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Oh for chrissakes.
I am not “complaining” of anything, but if I were, it is not THAT.
That is the exact opposite of the possible “spikulation” I mentioned.
You are totally illogical—–conflating two totally different topics. What bottle do you live in, and waft out of occasionally to make silly and insulting comments??

Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 17:56 utc | 388

I am not “complaining” of anything, but if I were, it is not THAT.
That is the exact opposite of the possible “spikulation” I mentioned.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 17:56 utc | 388
the “spikulation” you mentioned in a complaining way is in fact nothing more than a huge number people who usually are non-voters voted in 2020 just to express their displeasure with the sitting president. They knew their vote wouldn’t change the outcome of the race. As I said before, when those people don’t vote you treat them as if they don’t exist and if they do vote you still insist on treating them as if they don’t exist.
Here is a quote from c1ue that explains the vote drop off in 2024 compared to 2020.

The decreases in turnout were largely concentrated in “safe” states for one party or another – among folks who (correctly) perceived that their vote wouldn’t change the outcome of the race, and who were apparently not passionate enough about their preferred candidate to cast a vote for purely expressive purposes.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 18:20 utc | 389

In response to Johan Kaspar@360,
I understand that as being what you initially meant to express, but as for how true or universal that interpretation is, I’m not so sure. If I said that RBO is a thin veneer for might makes right, to legitimize unlawful action in the international arena, and whose goal is explicitly to undermine the very foundations of international law as a potential obstacle to such behavior, would you then disagree?
If proponents of the RBO want rules in the interaction of states, wouldn’t the first step in that process be to codify what those rules are — isn’t it counterproductive to leave “rules” as an undefined open-ended concept? If international law is part of the rules of the RBO, why do proponents of the RBO reserve the right to themselves break international law, or ignore such actions when conducted by aligned states? What’s missing from international law that necessitates a parallel pseudo-legalistic term like the RBO? The article in the original post sought to address these questions and more, placing particular emphasis on how the term RBO is used differently by the different states and political entities that adhere to it. Reading it, there’s plenty of room to argue that the RBO is a big deal, at least as big a deal as any group of entities combining their power to creating a parallel system of law outside of common law and applying it arbitrarily both amongst themselves and against outsiders, since that’s what criminal organizations are.

Posted by: Skiffer | Nov 17 2024 18:40 utc | 390

While it’s possible that Trump is engaged in 5-Day chess to throw neocons off his trail with his Zionist appointments it is more likely that he is just going along with the NeoCon / MIC agenda and he is really just throwing off the Independents by pretending to be a peace candidate. There are 3 things that are certain in life, Death, Taxes and a War Criminal US President.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 17 2024 17:37 utc | 382
This is speculation, but he appears to be doing three things:
1.) Insulating himself against being accused of being pro- Russia, China, Iran, Palestinian, etc. i.e. foreign policy attacks. (I know, I know, it’s weird.)
2.) Setting the cat among the chickens in the federal bureaucracy so they will worry about their own positions, instead of trying to thwart his other plans.
3.) Having the appointees all be dependent and loyal to him for their positions (excepting Rubio and perhaps some others).

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 17 2024 18:59 utc | 391

Is Trump a Military Genius?
Way back in 2016, when Trump decided to enter the POTUS contest, I didn’t know anything about him. Fortunately, there were many TV documentaries focusing on his background.
The most interesting revealed factoid, for me, is that his father thought that young Don lacked discipline and enrolled him in a Military College, where young Donald became a popular shining star.
It’s ‘interesting’ to me that the pundits NEVER mention Trump’s MC background.
So my question is “Did Trump learn enough about warfare, whilst at Military College, to make informed assessments about the state of play in the “Israel” & Ukraine Fake Wars?
I won’t be at all surprised if Trump withdraws US support for both conflicts and hastens psychopath Bibi’s downfall.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 17 2024 19:52 utc | 392

America shall inherit the earth !
If thats all right with the rest of you.
Ha ha ha.
Cloud cookcoo land.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 17 2024 20:29 utc | 393

Methinx the Pentagon will put brakes on the politicians, the US military is just not up to it.
Its a sad day, when we might have to rely on Generals to save all our butts.
But even military defeat, doesnt mean an end on any front, ‘forever wars’ have worked well enough for the US economy for 30+ years (for the plutocracy). Still a ways to go for any “critical mass” of dissent or major economic crisis to form inside the US.

Posted by: Rain | Nov 17 2024 22:02 utc | 394

@c1ue | Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:23:00 GMT | 368

Or put more succinctly: how can anyone with 3 brain cells think Biden in 2020 earned more votes than Obama in 2008?

How could Kamala Harris get more votes in 2024 than Obama did in 2008, because that’s what happened too.

Posted by: James M. | Nov 17 2024 22:37 utc | 395

@Hoarsewhisperer | Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:52:00 GMT | 392

The most interesting revealed factoid, for me, is that his father thought that young Don lacked discipline and enrolled him in a Military College, where young Donald became a popular shining star.
It’s ‘interesting’ to me that the pundits NEVER mention Trump’s MC background.

He didn’t go to a military college, he went to a military prep school. There’s a huge difference.

Posted by: James M. | Nov 17 2024 22:38 utc | 396

“I am disgusted by this thread. …”
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 17 2024 12:01 utc | 338
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Why?
It seems like you have taken on board nothing of what many thoughtful people have written here about the choices offered in the US election.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 23:05 utc | 397

There were investigations in many states. The courts reviewed the evidence. Arizona spent six months going over the ballots with microscopes in their attempt to find fraud.
Posted by: jinn | Nov 17 2024 17:14 utc | 380
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Which courts.
Please name actual cases and courts.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 23:13 utc | 398

Jinn 389
“the “spikulation” you mentioned in a complaining way
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LOL!
No genie in this lamp.
Confuses electoral college results and states won, the popular vote, examining evidence of possible ballot stuffing/harvesting, and “changing the results.”
Get back into your lamp right now!
Without dinner!

Posted by: Jane | Nov 17 2024 23:24 utc | 399

At home he will also destroy the capabilities of the administrative and regulatory state that are central to successful industrial policies.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 16 2024 16:35 utc | 23
These agencies do nothing for good policy or the people. They enable monopolies, destroy businesses and screw the people. Their death can’t come fast enough.
Destroying them all would be a good start.
They are no different than an old building too expensive to repair, bulldoze it and start fresh.

Posted by: Archetypex | Nov 17 2024 23:34 utc | 400