Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 12, 2024
Elections Have Consequences – We Just Don’t Know Which

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump is selecting a number of hawkish people to fill his cabinet.

There are currently a lot of hot takes what these appointees will do.

  • Marco Rubio, the likely Secretary of State, may want to launch a new coup in Venezuela.
  • Michael Waltz, the potential national security advisor, is anti-Russian and anti-China.
  • Elise Stefanik, a Zionist, will serve as the Israel's second ambassador to the United Nations.

If there were no limits either of these people would launch new wars.

That Trump is selecting rightwing nuts is not unexpected. He needs their backing to push things through.

But the fact that Trump is selecting these people does not mean that he will listen to them or follow their advice. His first term demonstrated that the people he selects often do not last. There is thus no reason to despair over this or that bonehead selection.

There are also objective reason why policies Trump or his acolytes might want to pursue might well be impossible. To lower taxes while the budget deficit is at a record and interest rates are high is not really doable. To push Ukraine towards a victory will fail due to facts on the ground. Any itch to attack Iran carries a high risk of a military defeat.

We will have to wait for the administrations real policy decisions to anticipate where it will go. A good sign will be when Trump succeeds in implementing policies that the hawks he has chosen oppose.

I am not really optimistic about that. My earlier prediction still holds:

[Trump] had previously chosen people who were opposing and sabotaging his policies. He lacked the authority and/or will to rein them in. I do not believe that he has learned from it.

But maybe he did learn from it. I for one will try to stay objective and to give him a chance.

Comments

Trump’s foreign policy is an aggressive, and ideologically anti-communist, imperialist policy. It was in the first term – which is why he made CIA man Mike Pompeo his Secretary of State. Trumpism is the anti-imperialism of fools. He is not anti-establishment. He is a billionaire, with the backing of other billionaires, on a quest to make the federal government a naked dictatorship of the capitalist class, with elements of clerical fascism sprinkled in. If you thought the wokescolds were bad, wait until christian morality is imposed on us from the halls of Congress.

Posted by: fnord | Nov 12 2024 19:45 utc | 101

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Nov 12 2024 18:51 utc | 72
“Most of us here wish the Empire would change for the better.”
No. Most of us here wish that the Empire would die, quickly and quietly.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 19:49 utc | 102

C’mon guys, Trump is just the foam and froth on the surface of history. Only a figure of great depth and power could tackle the underlying contradictions impelling the whole world toward ruin. Trump has neither the wit nor wisdom to grasp them and our epoch no longer has the institutions to produce those who can. All our forms are directed against themselves in grotesque parody: …
The best we can hope for is that the USA overreaches and suffers a crippling loss of face. But hey, if it all goes pear-shaped, just nuke the site from orbit.
Posted by: Patroklos | Nov 12 2024 19:17 utc | 88

You left out cheating in online chess. It’s an epidemic. The technocratic civilization can only drop a great big turd on us and call it beauty.

Posted by: NH | Nov 12 2024 19:51 utc | 103

Scott Ritter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEP7sfAyRVM
“Israel on the brink. Internal chaos and shocking middle east power shift.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 12 2024 19:56 utc | 104

At least Little Mario was chosen rather than Lindsey. Trump must have noticed that his surname letters spell Rules Based International Order. Reminds me of Bush picking a woman named Spellings for his education position.

Posted by: Bart | Nov 12 2024 20:03 utc | 105

Here is an x posting of Jackson Hinkle’s take on why the Trump administration will be filled with hawks
https://x.com/i/status/1856407187020738569

Posted by: ld | Nov 12 2024 20:10 utc | 106

I don’t understand. You guys still think the president runs the country? Even b??
The scam was obvious when I was a child and learnt that the royalty of warring european nations were relatives. I didn’t have the words to describe it clearly – but the disgusting stench was obvious. People on this forum have given me many words and explanations for the bad smells, have helped me understand the world – so it drives me nuts when everyone falls for the same stupid shit over and over. I don’t get it.

Posted by: Rae | Nov 12 2024 20:12 utc | 107

I was enthusiastic about Obama
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 18:55 utc | 74

The correct terminology, in case you didn’t know, is dick-riding Obama.
Obama was selected, groomed and his campaign funded by the ruling class to the tune of 1 billion dollars. The ruling classes, or a substantial faction thereof, did this because they knew what they were paying for and rightly expected a return on their investment.
The fact that millions of working class people more ore less willingly buy whatever the new flavours of Kool-Aid are on placed on offer before them every four years merely shows that the system continues to function as intended.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 20:14 utc | 108

Elise Stefanik, a Zionist, will serve as the Israel’s second ambassador to the United Nations.

Gave me a good laugh! Thanks B.

Posted by: D | Nov 12 2024 20:16 utc | 109

It doesn’t matter who’s selected to sit in the White House. Wall Street/Powers That Be/Donor Class/FIRE Sector or whatever term you like will always run the show. A pile of shit with whipped cream on top versus a pile of shit with hot fudge is still just a pile of shit!

Posted by: fnord | Nov 12 2024 20:19 utc | 110

Posted by: Rae | Nov 12 2024 20:12 utc | 106
For reasons unknown to me, some people feel the need to have a ‘leader’. Possibly they miss their mothers, or just don’t trust their own judgement. I really can’t tell. It’s a problem with a Freudian or maybe even a Jungian answer.
But why the Trump enthusiasts are on this site is an even bigger dilemma – this is a left-leaning (in the normal, not the US meaning) site, and Trump is undoubtedly a figure of the right. Beats me, but I wish they’d all go back to the Klu-Klux-Klan Times or whatever swamp-news they usually frequent.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:21 utc | 111

fnord @ 100

If you thought the wokescolds were bad, wait until christian morality is imposed on us from the halls of Congress.

Christian morality imposed by criminals, spivs, and amoral hedonists. Where have I seen that before?
https://cdn.sanity.io/images/cxgd3urn/production/caf78f97af3a45a1c58dd489991b502ceb0a6b54-2051×1508.jpg?rect=0,0,2051,1507&w=750&h=551&fit=crop&auto=format
George Grosz German artist

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 20:23 utc | 112

A few things about Trump.
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 12 2024 17:41 utc | 35
Agree agree agree about entire post.
“First Trump is a Judeo-Christian, and that means Juadism is a priority over Christianity. The unfortunate thing about this is that most Christian ascribe to that view.”
Oh to be a fly on the wall at their judgement day & watch them all consigned to gehenna.

Posted by: Mary | Nov 12 2024 20:24 utc | 113

b, you’re naivety is charming but no, we do not have to “be objective and wait and see” or what ever. We can see right now. More of the Same only worser – faster and furiouser. Every one of his picks is a rabid zionist. Rabid dogs don’t suddenly stop being rabid. The rabid zio finance guy wants all of Lebanon and Syria he nows says. West Bank belongs to Izzyhell he says. “The number one cause of child death WORLDWIDE is Izzyhell” as the UN recently announced. I admire, I think, your wishful thinking, but at the moment the only true patriots I see are the Houthi. To paraphrase Arch Bungle, the world is dark for all until light comes for all. Which won’t be soon with the announced TrumpTribe plus Thiel, Blackrock, the Sin City, aka City of London, Dusty Musky, Azone…wow. Heavy odds.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 12 2024 20:27 utc | 114

Newbie 77
Following up on your post counter-indicating the meme that Rubio had been announced by the incoming Trump Admin had me superficially check the two NY Times reporters background. As I said in an earlier reply, I found it odd that the NY-Times a well known Langley mouthpiece would be first to announce would replace Trump in the event of his and Vance’s demise.
Jonathan Swan is an ardent Israelist and his background fits the likely “mockingbird” recruit profile. Maggie Haberman is a little harder to pin down and might have been placed in the credits to offer to shade Jonathan Swan from the spotlight.
Good work Newbie 77, your post offers some interesting revelations on the National Security State’s machinations…thanks.

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 20:31 utc | 115

If you want to know what Trump thinks about the peasants and US law for the peasants, as oppposed to US law for the gilded ones, take another gander at the three people he put on the Supreme Court.
Serious Dark Ages thinking going on in those ‘august’ brains. Aside from getting as many mouth-breathing, rightwing, theocratic assholes on as many courts in the country as possible, and tax cuts for the wealthy corporate world, Trump had no policies, foreign or domestic, in his first terrm.
Nothing that he has said since indicates any change from that kind of crap. He has no interest whatsoever in the good of the commons, whether that be the commons of the US or the global commons.

Posted by: teri | Nov 12 2024 20:35 utc | 116

Rae @ 106

The scam was obvious when I was a child and learnt that the royalty of warring european nations were relatives. I didn’t have the words to describe it clearly

Exactly same for me when I learned in WW1 they were all each other’s cousins, but rapacious insatiable greed is thicker than blood.

so it drives me nuts when everyone falls for the same stupid shit over and over. I don’t get it.

Ease up, we’re all just looking for a way out, even the slimmest (slimiest?) hope. If you are hanging off a cliff you will grab at the cuff of the guy who threw you over.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 20:36 utc | 117

Warfare Analysis NEWS (TG)
Smotrich: “It is time in the new Trump era to impose Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank, 2025 is the year of sovereignty over the West Bank”
https://t.me/warfareanalysis/103001
Trump will recognize West Bank as part of “Israel” [V]
In 2016, Sheldon G. Adelson, a Jewish billionaire who owned casinos in Las Vegas, Nevada, donated $20 million directly to Trump’s campaign. The rest of his contributions were funneled through organizations like the “Republican Jewish Coalition,” “Trump Victory,” and other Super PACs supporting Trump that year. The total amount is suspected to be around $70 million.
His donation was contingent on the promise to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which Trump fulfilled after his election.
Adelson died in 2021, and his wife, Miriam Adelson, who inherited his wealth, donated $100 million in the 2024 election to the GOP and Trump. This time, her condition was for the U.S. to recognize parts or all of the West Bank as part of Israel.
The west bank is divided into 3 areas:
• Area A: Full PA control over civil and security matters.
• Area B: PA control over civil matters, but Israel controls security.
• Area C: Full Israeli control over both civil and security matters.
So, Trump will recognize either Area C, or Area B and C, or all three areas: A, B, and C.
I have spent sometime tracking this. Look it up.
https://t.me/warfareanalysis/102759
Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 11 2024 20:12 utc | 91

I posted the above yesterday in the Open Palestinian thread and am re-posting it here as I think its relevant.

But maybe he did learn from it. I for one will try to stay objective and to give him a chance.
Posted by b on November 12, 2024 at 16:42 UTC | Permalink

Political Parties in opposition often benefit from the actions of an incumbent. It doesn’t however mean that they would have acted any differently. Ukraine no longer matters to my mind (for a Trump administration) as Russia has already won and that debacle can be laid at the feet of the Democrats as the US walks away.
Israel is a different matter and the Trump administration will have to move to protect and shore it up or else lose their “unsinkable battleship”, and with it their influence in the region. If as the TG quote above says Trump and the Republicans have accepted $1oo million then all we have to do is wait to see if he signs off on the annexation of the West Bank.
I’m counting the days from now until it ceases to be the wish of a few ultraZios in the Knesset and becomes a talking point amongst the new administration. At that point we will see the direction of travel.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 12 2024 20:37 utc | 118

whatever swamp-news they usually frequent.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:21 utc | 110

Fully agree but, on a side note, think that cesspit is a more accurate metaphor than swamp.
Wetlands, or whatever is left of them, are an important part of the biosphere. What did they do to deserve association with the political classes and the Klu-Klux-Klan?
If I am not mistaken, it was that imbecile Trump who popularised the terminology in 2016. What do we expect? He being an inhabitant of the said cesspool, perhaps did not wish to draw attention to the fact.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 20:43 utc | 119

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 20:43 utc | 118
I was thinking more of the Luisiana swamps than the Washington one. 😇

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:51 utc | 120

First Trump is a Judeo-Christian, and that means Juadism is a priority over Christianity. The unfortunate thing about this is that most Christian ascribe to that view.
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 12 2024 17:41 utc | 35
Agreed that J-C is a deeply deeply rooted ideology … religious or not.
Equally so, anti-Islamisism is a deep deep motivator for all J-Cs. Trump and DS have many reasons to keep hating on Iran … till Kingdom Come. 9/11, threat to Zion, and all.
But the rhetoric and puny actions against Iran will never defeat the 21stC Iran, especially now that RF and China are on their side.
Still, I’m puzzled as to why the Ayatollahs have not yet been turfed out.

Posted by: Not-a-troll | Nov 12 2024 20:51 utc | 121

@exile #53
Israel at 4.825
UK at 4.511
US at 4.433
https://tradingeconomics.com/bonds

Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 12 2024 20:52 utc | 122

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:51 utc | 119
But yes, you’re right about not demeaning the good name of essential wetlands.
Maybe Donald will read this blog and be better informed! 🤯

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:54 utc | 123

Didn’t they drain a swamp in the Meadowlands to build mafia mega grift Giants Stadium? I think that’s Trump’s thinking when it comes to draining swamps.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 20:56 utc | 124

I was thinking more of the Luisiana swamps than the Washington one. 😇
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:51 utc | 119

Ha ha! Apposite!

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 20:58 utc | 125

But as long as the US Armed Forces find it OK to roam around the world, killing any one they find convenient, then it is OK to kill them back, to the maximum possible degree, ”
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I agree. You just have to be ready to die if you follow those prescripts. You plays the game you takes your chances.
I’m just chuckling at those who believe this is something beyond mafia revenge killing. Trump killed Sulameini because he was killing Americans. Newsflash, Deep State just tried to kill Trump, arguably with Iranian help. Neither likes him, nor he them. He may align with Deep State at times, but he’s not with them.

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 21:04 utc | 126

Whether or not Trump will use the excuse of war to remain in office will be determined by his health.
Posted by: Keme | Nov 12 2024 17:59 utc | 48
That option appears to work in Ukraine. But USA has the wartime elections of 1864 and 1944, both in major wars, as precedents that elections proceed despite war.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 12 2024 21:05 utc | 127

Many folks on this site seem to be ignorant of the order of succession in the event the President dies, is incapacitated or removed from office.
https://www.usa.gov/presidential-succession

Posted by: Zargo | Nov 12 2024 21:09 utc | 128

So Trump chooses a bunch of Zionist, warmongering morons.
It’s truly astonishing….
What did you expect? And especially in this swamp is there even one virgin without allegiance to the string-pullers?
The point is, none of this matters. What matters is the material reality of the real landslide.
The one Putin talked about in Valdaï, 17 years after announcing in Munich what was going to happen.
Karlof1 did the work quickly so that everyone could read about it, thanks to him.
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/putins-valdai-club-appearance-part
The world is casting off and it’s the West that’s going adrift. The latest vote at the UN General Assembly is striking: the West is defending Nazism against the rest of the world.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2022/11/09/why-france-and-51-other-countries-voted-against-the-un-resolution-condemning-nazism_6003471_8.html
Who is isolated?
Trump’s election is good news. The china store has recruited an elephant to present the new collection. In the best-case scenario, he’ll be Captain Edward John Smith on our latest cruise.
And in the worst case….
eh well nothing new, the worst has already been before our eyes for 4 years.
At the very least

Posted by: La Bastille | Nov 12 2024 21:12 utc | 129

As unbelievable as it sound, it looks like Rubio will be SoS (!).
So far, we have an UberZionist as UN embassador and now an ardent Cuba&VZ chronic regimeChanger as the first diplomat. It doesn’t make it better that Rubio also will write a blank check to Netenyaho, but that was no surprise.
What will be next? Jon Cornyn as senate majority leader?
If he now makes Lindsay Graham Miniter of defense and some Black Rock/Rotschild/Goldman high priest as secretary of treasury, we have everything as before.
One can sense that the air in MSM is a little lighter also, as they must beeathe 10 sighs of relief.
A few points:
*Cuba must be relieved the got to squeeze in as BRICS-partner, because this will be some rough years.
*Maduro should triple check his personal bodyguards now and only get committed ideologues of his.
*Kremlin knows that everything will be as before and need stress about finishing up anything before any “deal”.
*Lula must also be sweating now. If he indeed snubbed Vz, I hope he still has a chance to learn, but doubt it.
Didn’t have high hopes of much change, but then neither can get much sad of disappointment.

Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 12 2024 21:12 utc | 130

Professor Glenn Diesen on the implications of Trump being elected US president.
Trump’s Victory Raises Questions Over Military Aid to Ukraine – Professor Glenn Diesen on WION
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Professor Diesen also took part at the Valdai forum in Russia, and here is his 17 minute conversation on multipolarity with Putin

I asked President Putin if a similar Eurasian multipolar framework can be applied to Europe to overcome the re-division of our continent and continued bloc politics.

https://t.me/glenndiesen/415

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 12 2024 21:13 utc | 131

@ Patroklos | Nov 12 2024 19:17 utc | 88
Great comment!
After election night i gave a lecture in the morning. Did not look at the news. Did not think about it even. Whole class room was buzzing that morning. I asked what is going on and the whole class shrieked „He won“! I just looked at a student who is from Iran to see her reaction. She smiled and yawned, same as me. Than she said: „it dose not matter anyway, for us it dose not matter anyway.“
Lecture that morning: contemporary iconoclasm.
Oh that irony…

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Nov 12 2024 21:13 utc | 132

But why the Trump enthusiasts are on this site is an even bigger dilemma – this is a left-leaning (in the normal, not the US meaning) site, and Trump is undoubtedly a figure of the right. Beats me, but I wish they’d all go back to the Klu-Klux-Klan Times or whatever swamp-news they usually frequent.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 20:21 utc | 110
I’m not a Trump fan, but I would point out that Trump is a Republican and the Ku Klux Klan was founded and operated by the Democrats.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 12 2024 21:15 utc | 133

Israel must be the clear and undusputed winner if this election.
Trump may just drop Ukraine and let Kremlin do whatever they want, but it will be pivot to Southern Caribbean, West Bank and possibly Iran although the latter now has Russian advanced AD and should be fine.
DeDollarization will happen on it’s own. Sua Sponte

Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 12 2024 21:18 utc | 134

Meanwhile – rumour that Elon Musk to take charge of Rocket/Missile production!!!
How America Is Losing The Rocket Wars
Smart missiles have changed war as much as smartphones have changed peace. Today we are used to having packages delivered to our door, and in the same way we get deceased. In this age when bombs deliver themselves, human bombers appear more and more anachronistic. Out of time and out of place. Today, the American military looks like Nokia circa 2010. Technically #1, but technologically beaten.
Read on for detail [useful graphs, costings etc] on American and Iranian etc worth the time ….
Final paragraphs:
‘The Rocket Wars
America has simply missed the boat on a sea change in warfare. While Russia can now beat them in peer warfare, even much poorer adversaries can beat them by firing rockets and hiding underground, a complete ‘disruption’, in consumer tech terms. Smart rockets have advanced at the same pace as smartphones, whereas jets look like a Nokia with too many buttons. This is the state of America’s military, and the giant ship is too big to turn around, even as the Al Aqsa Flood rises around them.
What we’re witnessing now, on multiple fronts, is actually a going out of business sale of the military industrial multiplex, with mass murder as mass marketing. What we’re witnessing is a fire sale of the vanities, from Ukraine to Palestine. America’s reign is ending in strategic defeat, on multiple fronts. Like the Nazis they assimilated into NATO, America will continue fighting and killing after the cause is lost, but the strategic direction of these battles was already set decades ago, and the tactical results have already been proven. This is war in the age of rockets, and America has already been strategically defeated.
https://indi.ca/how-america-is-losing-the-rocket-wars/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 12 2024 21:18 utc | 135

This is quite logical.
It cannot be different.
The USA is on the road to escalation of all conflicts.
It cannot stop. It must escalate further.

Posted by: vargas | Nov 12 2024 21:27 utc | 136

” But why the Trump enthusiasts are on this site is an even bigger dilemma – this is a left-leaning (in the normal, not the US meaning) site, and Trump is undoubtedly a figure of the right. Beats me, but I wish they’d all go back to the Klu-Klux-Klan Times or whatever swamp-news they usually frequent. ”
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Odd, because you sound exactly like a US lefty. Destroy the 1st amendment by force if necessary. Call everybody a nazi. How are you with forced jabs and illegal searches?

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 21:27 utc | 137

Snowleopard @ 131

I’m not a Trump fan, but I would point out that Trump is a Republican and the Ku Klux Klan was founded and operated by the Democrats.

There was a (historic) realignment in the 1930s with FDR, not dissimilar to what is happening now, but I accede to your general point.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 21:29 utc | 138

Mike Huckabee for U.S. ambassador to Israel?
Yup, Israel won this election too. Americans lose again.
Or as the people who told me “this time will be different” are now telling me, “next time will be different”.
I facepalm hard.

Posted by: saner | Nov 12 2024 21:32 utc | 139

Some humorous comments made on the NY Times speculative-report* that Trump has selected Marco Rubio as Secretary of State:
“Rubio? Was Hillary unavailable?”
“Might as well give Liz Cheney the State Department slot,”
*Shouldn’t NY Times reports be fact-checked?

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 21:32 utc | 140

vargas @ 134

This is quite logical.
It cannot be different.
The USA is on the road to escalation of all conflicts.
It cannot stop. It must escalate further.

Not sure of the metrical pattern, maybe a type of haiku? Too dry, but endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 21:36 utc | 141

The fact that millions of working class people more ore less willingly buy whatever the new flavours of Kool-Aid are on placed on offer before them every four years merely shows that the system continues to function as intended.
Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 20:14 utc | 107
Class traitor alert. Another one blaming the victim/slave for the crimes of the master. People, this is exactly what the RC wants you to do. You are in fact drinking the Kool aid.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 12 2024 21:38 utc | 142

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 12 2024 21:15 utc | 131
Doesn’t make any difference from a foreign policy point of view (or any other point of view for that matter) – both the Republicans and the Democrats are right-wing Neo-liberals – the Reps being slightly less Liberal and more ‘Traditional-Conservative – or at least they used to be. The only real difference between them now is support or not for LGBQT (or whatever the latest acronym is).

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 21:39 utc | 143

Maro Rubio will do nothing at State. He can’t manage the Department. He absolutely cannot handle difficult negotiations. Next to Lavrov or Wang Yi he is an infant. His job will be photo ops.
US has long treated UN ambassador as a means of demonstrating we do not take the institution seriously. Stefanik fits the mold .
The Waltz cretin is a Green Beret. He knows how to salute and beat up peasants . He will be challenged by task of keeping a chair warm.
Policy will be made elsewhere. Possibly there will be sufficient chaos there is no policy.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 12 2024 21:39 utc | 144

Of course people WANT trump to represent the USA. He is entirely owned by Israel. Probably did the unspeakable when he was pals with Epstein. Thats seems to be how it works. If they dont have blackmail material on you you dont move forward. Wallowing in the pig stye is the start of club membership.

Posted by: deadend | Nov 12 2024 21:47 utc | 145

“But why the Trump enthusiasts are on this site is an even bigger dilemma” – Jams O’Donnell 110 asks?
Dovetailing with that “thought” I ask?
Why don’t normal people stare at the mirror all day?
Why not an echo-chamber instead of having a meaningful conversation?
Why are long conversations with ourselves thought to be a sign of mental issues?
Yes Jams, you are right, everybody should live in an individual silo preferable filled with hate for “others”…Sheesh

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 21:48 utc | 146

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 21:27 utc | 135
“Odd, because you sound exactly like a US lefty”.
Maybe to you, but that is only because you are politically ignorant. You equate ‘leftism’ which is an anti-capitalist movement, with ‘Liberalism’ – i.e. the so-called ‘Democratic’ Party which is a rabidly pro-capitalist movement. The two have nothing in common, but it is convenient for Republicans etc. to conflate the two in order to damage the ‘Democrats’, as leftism has been soundly demonised by the capitalist classes in the US.
There is at present no ‘leftism’ in the US apart from a few thousands who have actually read Marx, but they have no representation in US political life. Saunders for example, is what in the UK we would call a middle the road conservative (= Republican) – in no way a ‘leftist. You have been duped by 100 years of US elites propaganda, which is designed to forestall any attempt by the workers to rebel. Instead they are force fed the ‘American Dream’ of individual freedom and the ‘possibility’ of anyone to become rich or even President. Let me know when you succeed Donald Trump.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 21:52 utc | 147

Trump II is not an outlier this time, he’s was the anointed GOP candidate, there was a lot of horse trading going on to get here, some of his appointments are coming from him, some from the GOP, like Rubio. He will likely pick his staff, the GOP and lobbyists his cabinet secretaries. Trump II is just a normal USA transition of power, admittedly in rough times but nothing more exotic than if some other GOP candiate, or Harris had won. The system is fully in control this time. One more bipartisan shove of the Overton Window rightwards, hard to believe there’s any track left, in fact it’s come full circle, and the view out is just one left-right neocon blur.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 21:54 utc | 148

This is quite logical.
It cannot be different.
The USA is on the road to escalation of all conflicts.
It cannot stop. It must escalate further.
Posted by: vargas | Nov 12 2024 21:27 utc | 134
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Would you like to put some meat on those boney predictions?

Posted by: Ed | Nov 12 2024 21:55 utc | 149

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 21:48 utc | 144
You are the one who mentioned ‘hate’. I didn’t.
It’s just boring to read all the slavering over Trump, when it’s obvious that he will be just the same as all the rest. I remember all the same stuff coming out about Obama – how he was going to be different etc. etc. – yawn.
If I want to read this sort of tripe I can go somewhere that specialises in it.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 21:58 utc | 150

@ oldhippie | Nov 12 2024 21:39 utc | 142
re: Maro Rubio will do nothing at State. He can’t manage the Department. He absolutely cannot handle difficult negotiations.
There have been no State negotiations for many years. The US world hegemon never gives on anything. The current practice of ‘diplomacy’ is enacting sanctions, is all. Hillary & Blinken are two good examples, and it isn’t even them who have actually done the deeds, it’s Treasury. So then as you say the photo ops come in. As you suggest, let’s wait to see the looks on Wang’s and Lavrov’s faces when the cameras snap.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 12 2024 22:02 utc | 151

” that is only because you are politically ignorant. ”
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 21:52 utc | 145
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Yep, you sound exactly like a US lefty. Who do you want locked up?

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 22:04 utc | 152

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 22:04 utc | 150
Obviously you have reading-comprehension problems.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 22:06 utc | 153

There have been no State negotiations for many years.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 12 2024 22:02 utc | 149

To quote one former Secretary of State, we came, we saw, he died.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 22:08 utc | 154

PREDICTION on the Trump admin and actions:
More of the same; but insaner. Period.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 12 2024 22:09 utc | 155

I have previously said what Scott Ritter said today..
1. Ukraine has no negotiating power.. its only option at this point is
total unconditional surrender.. remove sanctions, disarm Ukraine, block Ukraine into NATO.. and allow the people of Ukraine vote in open elections to decide 1 if they want to be governed by Russians or Ukraine and 2. vote on a new government and 3. allow Russia to monitor and oversee what happens in Ukraine for the next many years.
2. The only way to fend off dedollarization is to drop sanctions, invite all nations in the world to once again use Swift, and to integrate the western economies into those of the east.. and let the best man compete and win or lose in the homogenized economy.
anything else keeps the forces in the world separated which makes war inevitable.
I agree with Scott..

Posted by: snake | Nov 12 2024 22:10 utc | 156

election obviously just senseless showbiz.. string-pullers still in charge. this is just a light entertainment thread til something more consequential takes place.

Posted by: bongholder | Nov 12 2024 22:15 utc | 157

And somewhere ther will be a bunch of izzies dancing in a circle and jumping up and down celibrating the oncomeing chaos and callapse of america.
Take a look at what they did to gaza,
Take a look at what they did in Amsterdam.
Thats your new masters pulling trumps strings like a puppet.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 12 2024 22:19 utc | 158

Class traitor alert. Another one blaming the victim/slave for the crimes of the master. People, this is exactly what the RC wants you to do. You are in fact drinking the Kool aid.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 12 2024 21:38 utc | 140

You may or may not like it, but the working class live under the ideological hegemony of the ruling class. Because it lacks parties and social institutions of its own it is reduced to a consumer of bourgeois ‘news’ (that is ideology), to voting for bourgeois political parties, bonapartist candidates like Trump, and so on. The fact that they do so does not assign blame to them, it is merely a reflection of the power of the ruling class, and the weakness or absence of working class institutions.
I suggest that ‘class traitor’ line of yours where the sun doesn’t shine.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 12 2024 22:23 utc | 159

BTW
Elise Stefanik – ambassador to UN.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3165716/if-the-united-nations-continues-its-antisemitism-the-us-must-withdraw-support/#google_vignette
Probably should be read “Ambassador for Israel”. Certainly seems to be more interested in Israel than the USA from that read.

Posted by: saner | Nov 12 2024 22:23 utc | 160

” Obviously you have reading-comprehension problems. ”
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 22:06 utc | 151
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It’ll be a more civil atmosphere here if you cease attacking other posters and trying to exclude them, lad. And you still sound exactly like a US lefty. It’d be wonderful if we just all agree with you, huh? Should the rest of us be jailed?

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 22:30 utc | 161

Dont forget when trump pretended he was shot in the ear, he took his shoe off and waved it. That signifies submition to the zionists.
That bought him the election. He’s their man.
Be scared be very very scared.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 12 2024 22:31 utc | 162

Newbie 77
Following up on your post counter-indicating the meme that Rubio had been announced by the incoming Trump Admin had me superficially check the two NY Times reporters background. As I said in an earlier reply, I found it odd that the NY-Times a well known Langley mouthpiece would be first to announce would replace Trump in the event of his and Vance’s demise.
Jonathan Swan is an ardent Israelist and his background fits the likely “mockingbird” recruit profile. Maggie Haberman is a little harder to pin down and might have been placed in the credits to offer to shade Jonathan Swan from the spotlight.
Good work Newbie 77, your post offers some interesting revelations on the National Security State’s machinations…thanks.
Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 20:31 utc | 114
All hail Figleaf23
It was HIS post that I just copied.
Funny that it’s the second thanks that goes to me when I just reposted his work.
But thanks anyway

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 22:34 utc | 163

In response to
“LOL–LOL–LOL–
What an excellent typo!! Bong holders.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 12 2024 19:05 utc | 81

You hit the nail on the head.
This is fiat money bong holders which are just as viable as tulip mania crypto money holders….a whole lot of faith but no beef in the middle of the bun.
The train is leaving for value based or at least nation neutral monetary exchange and the repricing of everything currently manipulated by the private money mafia is close on its heals.
And Trump gets to lead the God Of Mammon cult into the abyss, how fitting.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 12 2024 22:36 utc | 164

Donald Trump is a crazy maker. Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: SO | Nov 12 2024 22:40 utc | 165

The next war will be americans fighting amoungest them selves. To distruction.
If you’v got a foreskin your gunna loose.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 12 2024 22:40 utc | 166

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 22:30 utc | 159
Well, laddie, to borrow your feeble try at condescension, if you want to attack me in the first place with a meaningless attribution of being a ‘US lefty’, and reply to my next post with an even more stupid repetition of that phrase, what do you expect?
If I take the trouble to reply to you with a stated position, you could at least try to muster some counter arguments or even what you might call facts, but obviously that was beyond you. I won’t bother with such overkill in future with you.
Not a commendable performance

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 22:41 utc | 167

There is at present no ‘leftism’ in the US apart from a few thousands who have actually read Marx, but they have no representation in US political life. Saunders for example, is what in the UK we would call a middle the road conservative (= Republican) – in no way a ‘leftist.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 21:52 utc | 145
Don’t be so meaan, if not dully neutered he’d be an honest to god european social democrat (german, not sewdish) from the fifties
And that would be a good thing
As a postscript, for those that tried to raise an issue with right or left people on MoA, in the open thread we were discussing grayzone and how now it’s not as much right vs left as blob vs free and that citizens have to recover agency before we get back to discussing which way we should be going today.

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 22:42 utc | 168

Trump was not elected. He was selected by the deep swamp’s algorithms and he is currently acknowledging the deep swamp’s ugliest kritters by way of formal thanks.
I always think of the Sudan and cat fish buried in the clay when I think of Trump’s swamp. It fills every year and then fills the Nile and had done for 1000s of years. It was a poor joke on us plebs when Trump promised to drain the swamp, because it is a permanently recurring cycle of flood and drought.
And Trump is the product of the swamp, like Pharaoh persecuting the Children of Israel, by claiming that he controlled the Nile.
Having cleared that error, that the swamp can drain the swamp, Pharaoh who claimed control over Egyptian water, was drowned. If you transfer this analogy to Trump, he will probably be encarcerated by Netanyahu, before Netanyahu will be encarcerated by Trump.
Netanyahu is following Nazi logic, while Trump is tarting around for support against the fate he has been given by the swamp, to be the Founding Father of Greater Israel, by electoral algorithms.
Like you go to the Casino to get rich only to find that you are now a wholly-owned, right-less slave.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 12 2024 22:43 utc | 169

snake @ 154

what Scott Ritter said today.. and allow the people of Ukraine vote in open elections to decide 1 if they want to be governed by Russians or Ukraine and 2. vote on a new government and 3. allow Russia to monitor and oversee what happens in Ukraine for the next many years.

The last point is in contradiction with the first two. After all the death and destruction and bad blood of the SMO I doubt the Russians will rely on Ukrainian elections for their security. They will have to do what the Soviets did after WW2 and take absolute control of the country and run from it from Kiev, maybe toss the Lvov part to whatever jackals stupid enough to choke on it. Odessa, Nikolyaev, Kharkov have proven strategic threats to Russia, there will be no negotiating over that, they will be taken and garrisoned against NATO for decades to come. There is nothing the USA and NATO can offer in exchange for that just capitulation, which is not in line with hegemony. There’s a lot of fighting still to come.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 22:45 utc | 170

The system is fully in control this time. One more bipartisan shove of the Overton Window rightwards, hard to believe there’s any track left, in fact it’s come full circle, and the view out is just one left-right neocon blur.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 12 2024 21:54 utc | 146
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Of course, you know that the system is the problem; the system is the two-party state where both parties serve the same masters of the system, a Capitalist Dictatorship. We are not talking about a full circle; there are no circles in history, only a spiral. Follow the order:
Primitive communalism,
Chattel slavery….
Feudalism in its various forms.
Early capitalism or primitive capitalism, also known as Mercantilism.
Imperialist and settler colonial capitalism (wars waged against more primitive people to take their lands and resources).
Late-stage colonial imperialism, also known as financial capitalism (the exploitive dictatorial economic system that almost half of humanity lives under today).
And whatever comes next (I prefer a society that has some profound control over the minority exploiting classes).
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Notice that every society’s economic system is up to; whatever comes next, are exploitive economic systems controlled by minorities? History has no circles, only spirals.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 12 2024 22:51 utc | 171

” what do you expect? ”
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Nov 12 2024 22:41 utc | 165
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I’d expect you’d continue to attack other posters here, and try to drive them out, as they disagree with you. Just like a US lefty, lad.

Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 22:51 utc | 172

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature could have predicted these appointments.
Trump is not a mystery or an anomaly. He is a proud American Patriot. His obsessive support for Israel was never a secret. His Zionism was there for everyone to see.
Many chose not to.
Moral courage is so rare that one could argue it is non-existent in the West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 22:53 utc | 173

small parts of me are hoping trump actually has isolationist foreign policy. in fantasy land, trump learned and grew over the last 8 years and will make a better president. but i so doubt it. all his cabinet appointments just get me more worried. i knew nothing would change, but also, it hurts to see it become more apparent as cabinet draft season picks up speed. i fully dont believe any politician is going to make a difference, and instead we’re just going to see this slow and painful decline continue.

Posted by: matt2004 | Nov 12 2024 22:54 utc | 174

Notice that every society’s economic system is up to; whatever comes next, are exploitive economic systems controlled by minorities? History has no circles, only spirals.
Posted by: Ed | Nov 12 2024 22:51 utc | 169
Come on, don’t be pessimistic, it resets back to Primitive communalism for the 1%º who survive the collapse 😀
Or maybe there’s a way out (one can hope)

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 22:54 utc | 175

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature could have predicted these appointments.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 22:53 utc | 171
Sometimes I envy fahrenheit guys…

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 22:56 utc | 176

Stew Peters lays it down. Will Trump jail this man who supported this him as a antisemite? Its pretty simple guys. You cant be owned by Israel and represent USA interests. Israel is a complete liability and no amount of sheepish apologies from the likes of Blinken will change that.
Judaism is a part of the USA now. Its culture is appreciated and part of the USAs richness like other cultures say the Irish or Italian traditions. Supremism destroys the party. Nobody gets to run things like the mafia. Will Mossad assassinate Stew Peters? Israel should be ditched. Soory genocide not a trivial thing. Trump can not represent USA s interests while being owned by Israel and implementing censorship or worse for those that appose supremism and genocide.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7QnZzyLETyyt

Posted by: deadend | Nov 12 2024 23:01 utc | 177

Mike Waltz seems to be officially in.
https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2024/11/12/dc/trump-names-floridas-rep-mike-waltz-as-national-security-adviser/
And Steve Witkoff special envoy to the ME, not to say he has any (fore)skin in the game…

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 23:04 utc | 178

Trump killed the Iranian general in Iraq because the general was killing americans. He played a rough game and paid with his life. He knew the rules.
Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 17:21 utc | 17
I think we have been propagandized about Soleimani. His name is always followed with “killed lots of Americans,” Just like “Ukraine war” is always preceded by “Putin’s unprovoked.”
Even Wikipedia avoids stating that Soleimani, himself, killed Americans. The killings he was directly responsible for were against US proxies in West Asia. Droning him when he was an on an official Iranian peace mission in a third country is a violation of International Law, just not US Rules. Adding “killed lots of Americans” is supposed to make his murder more palatable to the western audience.

Posted by: Samu | Nov 12 2024 23:06 utc | 179

Posted by: deadend | Nov 12 2024 23:01 utc | 175
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No one can serve two masters.
The American government only has one master.
Israel.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 23:10 utc | 180

How are you with forced jabs and illegal searches?
Posted by: seer | Nov 12 2024 21:27 utc | 135
About as good as I am will illegal extrajudicial assassinations of foreign dignitaries on soil illegally occupied by the US Military mercs and various firms and corrupt individuals they’re there “protecting.” But you sound like a current or former drone operator, happily murdering people including American citizens half the world away from your gaming console at some USAF base in Nevada.
And speaking of illegal searches, have you done much reading of SCOTUS and district court case law with regard to the 4th amendment and which way or another various GOP vs. Democrat nominated justices/judges have opined and/or issued forth rulings? If you think Trump or Republicans are going to rescue the 1st or 4th Amendments, I have a bridge to sell you. The GOP is a 2A ‘shop.’

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 12 2024 23:11 utc | 181

Moral courage is so rare that one could argue it is non-existent in the West.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 22:53 utc | 171
The same applies to intellectual courage.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 12 2024 23:12 utc | 182

probably a good idea to ignore the ‘non’ seer…

Posted by: james | Nov 12 2024 23:16 utc | 183

Two simple axioms tend to hold true in complex situations:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck
Follow the money.

Posted by: Organic | Nov 12 2024 23:17 utc | 184

Adding “killed lots of Americans” is supposed to make his murder more palatable to the western audience.
Posted by: Samu | Nov 12 2024 23:06 utc | 177
It’s really no different than the treatment ‘bestowed’ up on Wikileaks and Julian Assange. Every time some anonymous official (or neocon wingnut like Mike Pompeo) uttered the phrase that their leaks “endangered or got Americans killed” it turned out to be complete Grade A bullshit. I can guarantee that Gen. Soleimani never once directly ordered the killing of any American, no matter how illegally that person or persons were present in a foreign country like Iraq or Afghanistan. If said “killed” Americans were there, they were almost assuredly effectively embedded with head chopping ISIS/Al Nusra “moderate rebels” and engaged in targeted killings of Iraqis, Syrians and Iranians invited to be on their territory by the Iraqi or Syrian governments.
Furthermore, Donald Trump wasn’t ‘coerced’ into ordering and closely tracking the assassination with Mossad assistance (that was reported but which they later conveniently denied). Trump’s “dick riders” (a term coined by another poster) always jump into action and try to remove blame from their Dear Leader whenever one of his official acts flies in the face of some vague campaign or other statement he makes such as “I didn’t start any wars” or “Assange? I have no idea who you’re talking about.” Sure, the Pimpeous One or John Bolton (assuming he was still around at the time) may have convinced Trump to do those things, but he always took great pride in them and bragged about them privately or in public, usually the latter. It’s really no so different from the Obamabots or Bush/Cheney era neocon apologists/cheerleaders and denial or justification on false grounds is almost a natural human coping response.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 12 2024 23:22 utc | 185

I’m all for criticizing Trump’s potential appointees [hey…I sent a polite message to his campaign HQ on Rubio today] but, maybe we should wait to criticize Trump for actually appointing somebody until he actually appoints somebody…yes..no?
In the US we have a saying to make mockery of the prejudiced mind; “..wait…wait..we gotta give that horse thief a fair trial before we hang ’em”. But some posters here aren’t even waiting for the horse to be stolen before joining a lynch mob. Where’s Mel Brooks humor when ‘ya need it?
Deputy: “..wait a minute Sheriff…that darn horse is still in the stable”
Sheriff: “…darn it Deputy…told ‘ya..don’t bother me in the middle of a lynching”

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 23:27 utc | 186

Thank you for your opening comment, b! I haven’t yet gone to comments, so forgive me if I’m repeating a link that someone has advocated. Here it is:-
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDuran
Jim Webb was on and the conversation was a good one, mostly on your subject here.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 12 2024 23:37 utc | 187

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 23:27 utc | 184
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America is a colonial power that has repeatedly committed mass murder abroad while stealing resources and destroying sovereign governments.
While you probably can’t stop it, you can stop promoting it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 23:41 utc | 188

Hey Jane, where’s the Trump re-election party in your neck of the woods?
You can put the ‘VOTE TRUMP’ placard you were holding in your left hand, but do keep the ‘FREE PALESTINE’ placard you were holding in your right. Still protesting I hope? Getting some honks?
Don’t forget to contact your representative to tell them you’re really mad at their Palestine policy once Trump gets going.

Posted by: Trapezium | Nov 12 2024 23:41 utc | 189

Follow the money.
Posted by: Organic | Nov 12 2024 23:17 utc | 182
For what it’s worth … money is just a practical convention. What makes money’s value ? What is valuable ?

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Nov 12 2024 23:43 utc | 190

Posted by: S Brennan | Nov 12 2024 23:27 utc | 184
Based on your comment about having messaged the Trump people re: Rubio, you seem to be espousing 2 mutually contradicting ideas here.
1) We have no idea who Trump has or will appoint thus we should all shut up and stop “criticizing” him for his appointees.
2) We have some form of influence on Trump’s potential appointees both in the realm of public criticism and direct messages to his people.
In fact, I think this is the time in which to voice criticisms of his potential nominees loudly and clearly. We need to spread the message to those supporters of his who may not be as informed, that he risks alienating many people and staffing his cabinet with neocons who may either stage a palace coup by overriding his better judgment, his actual orders, or by showing their true colors and participating in actions that endanger his life or his presidency/legacy.
IOW, please stop chiding us for rightly criticizing his POTENTIAL nominees/picks while there MIGHT be time left to prevent some of the worst ones.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 12 2024 23:45 utc | 191

Hey Jane, where’s the Trump re-election party in your neck of the woods?
You can put the ‘VOTE TRUMP’ placard you were holding in your left hand, but do keep the ‘FREE PALESTINE’ placard you were holding in your right. Still protesting I hope? Getting some honks?
Don’t forget to contact your representative to tell them you’re really mad at their Palestine policy once Trump gets going.
Posted by: Trapezium | Nov 12 2024 23:41 utc | 187
Very eloquent. Bravo.

Posted by: burak | Nov 12 2024 23:47 utc | 192

What is valuable ?
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Nov 12 2024 23:43 utc | 188
just google
labor theory of value (ricardo, marx)
utillity value (menger)
You’re welcome

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 12 2024 23:47 utc | 193

Posted by: Trapezium | Nov 12 2024 23:41 utc | 187
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Good call out.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 12 2024 23:50 utc | 194

Isn’t it is the other way around about the chosen people?
The names of the people that will be appointed to key positions are known before the election day, therefore, the correct list makes you the next president.
Isn’t the election race not a close race by design, just to press the candidates to make more and more concessions for the pressing groups?

Posted by: JB_2 | Nov 12 2024 23:52 utc | 195

End Ukraine so he can focus on what matters “Israel” and China. What this focus will mean we are yet to see. The IOF is not doing that well. Maybe he will be the deal maker. Sanctions or tariffs on China are impacting both countries but will continue. And the destruction of Germany as an industrial powerhouse is almost complete – one of the main reasons for the Ukraine war. So all going to plan.

Posted by: Inki | Nov 12 2024 23:55 utc | 196

alfred | Nov 12 2024 17:32 utc | 27
*** What a waste of time speculating. Wait until he’s in office and starts his implementations. Only then will you have an idea of what is happening, and what the consequences will be. Be grateful he prevented another Dem administration, which would’ve been a continuation and expansion of the nightmare we are already in.***
And every four or five or six (depending on country) years the same argument … “Oh well, at least it isn’t the other lot”.
Repeated chunks of media pimped lie-swallowing and non-representation that accumulate to cover an entire lifetime.
Who won? It makes damn-all difference … it’s basically the same crap forever being sold in a vaguely differentiated wrapper. By now even the vague differentiation tends not to contain any significant policy choices.
But never mind — just swallow it time after time after time after time. Then die.
And meanwhile, either concoct hopium excuses for the latest bunch of automatons and puppets, or bewail the exit of the previous bunch of the same corrupt thespians (since they are all merely fronts for the agenda of the real power holders)….
Unless inadvertently, none of the Establishment franchisees is going to make anything seriously better. To the Establishment, its System and its elevated servants, you’re no more than another disposable, exploitable (or possibly tradeable) commodity.

Posted by: Cynic | Nov 13 2024 0:00 utc | 197

Wonder who is Rubio’s AIPAC handler?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 12 2024 19:30 utc | 95
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Donald Trump.

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 13 2024 0:02 utc | 198

If you thought the wokescolds were bad, wait until christian morality is imposed on us from the halls of Congress.
Posted by: fnord | Nov 12 2024 19:45 utc | 100
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No doubt why so many Anglo “socialists” and “communists” keep lining up to fellate the once-and-future president. Don’t we see enough of that right here on MoA?

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 13 2024 0:05 utc | 199

Just a small question from and ignorant fool.
Shift to china. Does it mean?
1. They convince taiwan to be ukraine by the (china) sea, on a proxy war
2. Before china decides to blockade taiwan, the us try to blockade china
3. Just a sexy name for tariffs and embargoes
let’s see
1. Doubtful they are stupid enough and even more doubtful how long they’d last and the post war situation
2. China’s A2/AD goes well beyond the first (and second) island chains, how do they envision such a masterful feat? Not considering a land road exists and not about to disapear
3. I have the strangest idea that china would be willing to offer its production at a slight discount to the ROW, and they’d be happy to ignore western stuff by at least 95%. On the other side, the west would be hard pressed to put anything in the socks by the fireplace for X-mas (not to mention a lot of other much more critical things). Furthermore the west would be hard pressed to buy the raw resources and cheap production from ROW when they’d be more interested in settling their purchases with briCs
Any other scenario that i can envision includes thousands of ICBMs crisscrossing the skies, or am I missing something?

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 13 2024 0:13 utc | 200