Election 2024 – Trump Has Won

November 6, 2024

My hunch is that Trump will win the election. What policies will follow will largely depend on the people he will select to run the show. He had previously chosen people who were opposing and sabotaging his policies. He lacked the authority and/or will to rein them in. I do not believe that he has learned from it.

It currently looks like Trump has won yesterday's election. The presidency and majorities in the Senate and House will be held by Republicans.

That does not change my policy prediction:

I expect the new president to double down on the anti-Russian project in Ukraine and on support for the genocide the Zionist are committed to finish. The U.S. will continue to be bogged down in Europe and west-Asia. The 'pivot to Asia' to counter China's rise will continue to stall. The economic standing of the U.S. will continue to deteriorate.

This is good news for China, Russia, the BRICS project and those involved in it. As the old world order continues to drag itself down the new one gains time and space to evolve from it.

My hope for Europe is that Trump, being afraid of a real confrontations as he is, will lose the contest with Russia. As Emmanuel Todd had summarized:

It is the outcome of this war that will decide the fate of Europe. If Russia is defeated in Ukraine, European submission to the Americans would be prolonged for a century. If, as I believe, the United States is defeated, NATO will disintegrate and Europe will be left free.

Posted by b on November 6, 2024 at 07:42 UTC | Permalink

Comments

too scents @85: “What is wrong with our own planet except that we don’t have the time to enjoy it because of the demands make by the excesses of people like Musk?”
Good, then launch a socialist revolution to refactor the economy around societal needs and not private ownership of the means of production.
But you won’t do that for… reasons.
Here’s a surprise for you: All of the money spent on space enterprises is spent where? On Earth. It goes into the wages and salaries of people smarter, more skilled, more capable, and frankly more deserving than you.
And maybe you would like to enjoy a nice, clean, green planet, but without having to go Luddite-naked and live in trees and caves and eat bugs. Maybe you are not so selfish and narcissistic as to say “Those Global South people are just going to have to suck it up and live with less electricity and mod-cons than us first-worlders because muh environment!”
The reality is that humanity needs industry, and needs industrial scale energy generation to power that industry. Orders of magnitude more energy than humanity currently has at its disposal is needed. The technology Musk is pioneering is the gateway to forever eliminating all concerns about energy, whether those concerns are about energy shortages or spoiling the environment. That tech is also the gateway to moving the most problematic but necessary smokestack industries out of the Earth’s biosphere.
Don’t worry if your mind cannot handle these ideas. The Chinese ~~will take~~ are taking what Musk started and running with it to achieve things you cannot even comprehend right now.
Ah, it’s a good time to be alive! Living in interesting times isn’t all bad.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 12:39 utc | 101

With the sheer scale of Trump’s win, and quite possibly winning the popular vote, all the Dem lawyers and nullification operatives will have to stand down. With Trump also controlling both houses he has 2 years to do what he wants to do. The media and Dem establishment have been utterly delegitimized, but maybe they will still try more years of outrageous lies. All of the media operate under government licensing, and Trump could easily yank their chain and perhaps has learnt such tricks in the past 8 years.
The next few months, including who he picks for important positions and how the establishment and media react will tell us what the next few years will look like.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Nov 6 2024 12:40 utc | 102

I dont agree with b. The two most evil administrations in the past 50 years were Bush and Biden. We can breathe a sigh of relief that they are gone.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 6 2024 12:41 utc | 103

‘A Trump victory will have horrendous consequences for Israel – opinion
Trump has also been reported as having called upon Netanyahu to end the war in Gaza and Lebanon, and the mutual blows with Iran as rapidly as possible, before he enters office in January 2025, assuming he wins
The fact, that in the last stage of his election campaign Trump decided to court the Muslim voters in several pivotal states, promising that “unlike the clowns who are currently running the show in the Middle East” (i.e. the Biden administration) he will bring peace to the region immediately, cannot but cause concern in Israeli government circles’
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-827403

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 12:43 utc | 104

Finally, a full blown plutocracy will be on display – a millionaire president with billionaires in the administration (Musk), plus a Kennedy allegedly dedicated to children’s health and well being, but not Palestinian children and not Lebanese children being killed daily by US/Israel.
Plutocracy – government controlled exclusively by the wealthy, either directly or indirectly.
Trump, the vulgar ignorant bully, the truest reflection of America there is, bragged proudly that he “gave” the Syrian Golan to his billionaire donors the Adelsons.
Americans call that – democracy.
What an ugly, rotten, bloody farce.

Posted by: JB | Nov 6 2024 12:51 utc | 105

AIPAC twits tweet:

So far, 190 AIPAC-backed candidates have won their elections tonight!
We are proud to stand with pro-Israel Democrats and Republicans to strengthen bipartisan support for the U.S.-Israel relationship.
Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics!

And the 191st will occupy the White House…

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Nov 6 2024 12:54 utc | 106

US has been currently run by proxy by London financial interests. Any proxy detereriorates over time as its own interests are not considered.

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 12:55 utc | 107

Was on this site over a month ago speculating that whoever was ‘installed’ as POTUS would signal to the world which way the blob was going to go in terms of using the USA & the West to its goals. We now know this means war with China up next, with the MidEast as a distraction.
The plan all along was/is to keep Russia occupied in the West so they can’t help China on the Eastern front . Ukraine war will ‘end’ like the war in Korea “ended”….permanent line of demarcation which could turn hot at any time. The West will use the next 2 to 3 years to rearm/reload, then go after China about 2026 or 2027. After all the collapse of the Western empire in 2030 is fast approaching…

Posted by: drsmith | Nov 6 2024 12:58 utc | 108

The stunningly unasked question about the DNC and Democrats at large is why they didn’t push Kamala Harris (or better candidate) instead of humiliating their constituency with the self-propelled zombie Pres, before the race was in full speed …
Not the best timing for changing horse, is it?
Of course that would put the responsibility for disaster on unwilling shoulders …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 6 2024 13:02 utc | 109

The Crips should have stuck with the dementia patient, after all.

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Nov 6 2024 13:03 utc | 110

Wrell the fact withouth the pandemic Trump’s votes from yesterday tallied with 2016 results. Pretty evident I think.
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 12:17 utc | 92
So I am wrong. It looks like the babbling nonsense stories about election fraud will continue….
Not all the votes are counted but it looks like the votes for Trump will be a lot closer to 2020 results than to 2016. What changed in 2024 compared to 2020 was that something like 14 million voters against Trump did not bother to vote this time.
But I do agree that the Trump administration’s helter skelter response to the pandemic was the number one reason so many more people were motivated to vote to fire Trump in 2020. But that’s not evidence of election fraud.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 6 2024 13:05 utc | 111

The Zionists are frightened of Trump as he is nationalist leader:
‘Devotion to the interests or culture of a particular nation-state.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
The belief that a particular cultural or ethnic group constitutes a distinct people deserving of political self-determination.’

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 13:06 utc | 112

On a jollier note – I guess the WH gets another refurb internally!
Plenty of Biden poop and pee stains, plenty of white powder trails, all the places Hunter and his kiddie porn fetish were leaving errr mess.
There’s also the secret entrance and rooms for Obama and Killary and their voice control apparatus for Joe and Kemala.
And of course all the dodgy spy came left by NuttyYahoo and his missus with their dirty laundry smelling of death.
Yup Melania is going to be super busy for the next month or two splashing out.
I guess our next bit of fun is going to be seeing who is chosen by the National Interest backers to be in the Cabinet and who is by Donald himself.
He would do well to keep his children out of the loop of the main decisions this time to avoid screwing up as Biden has with Hunter and co.
As some are also noting this is his chance to leave for posterity a proud Drumpff dynasty instead of the seedy Bush/Clinton/Biden type.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 6 2024 13:06 utc | 113

Trump won’t want an Iran war. Neither do the mullahs. Bleeding Israel is their goal. Israel will withdraw, as always.
Ukraine will negotiate. Z will get double-tapped. Russia will play the field from there, as will Trump. The killing ends when rump Ukraine accepts their status. Europe will exhale.

Posted by: seer | Nov 6 2024 13:08 utc | 114

The plan all along was/is to keep Russia occupied in the West so they can’t help China on the Eastern front . Ukraine war will ‘end’ like the war in Korea “ended”….permanent line of demarcation which could turn hot at any time. The West will use the next 2 to 3 years to rearm/reload, then go after China about 2026 or 2027. After all the collapse of the Western empire in 2030 is fast approaching…
Posted by: drsmith | Nov 6 2024 12:58 utc | 108
As if Russia cannot care about an eastern front. LOL #1.
Ukraine will end like Russia wants: demilitarisation and denazification. LOL #2.
The west is getting bankrupted. LOL #3.
Rearming will increase the fall. LOL #4.
China has the manufactoring power, not the west who is dependent from Russian raw materials.
No army could face an assault of 10’000 drones at the same time. LOL #5.
Indeed the west is doomed, but it will take more than 6 years.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 6 2024 13:12 utc | 115

Trump won’t want an Iran war.
Posted by: seer | Nov 6 2024 13:08 utc | 114
It is not what Vance said. End the war in Ukraine to concentrate on Iran.

Posted by: Naive | Nov 6 2024 13:14 utc | 116

The Times of Israel
Vance: US and Israeli interests won’t always overlap; we don’t want war with Iran
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vance-us-and-israeli-interests-won-t-always-overlap-we-don-t-want-war-with-iran/ar-AA1t6In6

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 13:21 utc | 117

Excellent:
Why even progressive U.S. voters are America Firsters
https://mronline.org/2024/11/06/why-even-progressive-u-s-voters-are-america-firsters/

Posted by: burak | Nov 6 2024 13:24 utc | 118

Enjoy your new and more powerful shadow puppet master Theil.
A completely unpresentable billionaire who not only wants to get up your ass literally, but figuratively with his spy company Palintir.

Posted by: ryanggg | Nov 6 2024 13:25 utc | 119

Americans trying to make America better how out of order of them
shadow puppet master that would be Soros or the Rothschilds right?
So rich darwinian forces do not apply as is needed.

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 13:34 utc | 120

All of the money spent on space enterprises is spent where?
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 12:39 utc | 101
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Money isn’t wealth. You’re pitching a future build on a foundation of falsehoods.
Once basic needs, and they have been, the technology machine can be throttled back and we can use our leisure to explore horizons beyond the profit motive.
https://orinocotribune.com/the-dialectics-of-wealth-and-poverty/

Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 13:36 utc | 121

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 11:49 utc | 80
I always thought a lame duck was one who didn’t have to face re-election
but then I’m no experts on ducks.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 6 2024 13:37 utc | 122

Don’t be naïve. Just look at the grifters Trump has surrounded himself with.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 11:37 utc | 78
RFKjr. and Tulsi grifters?

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 6 2024 13:44 utc | 123

It doesn’t matter who won, America will still decline. And for Trump fans, he’s not going to stop the decline even though he declares he will make things “Great” like we’re in the 80s again.

Posted by: Anon | Nov 6 2024 13:52 utc | 124

“Joe Biden just felicitated Ronald Reagan for his win !” is the best joke about this election I’ve heard so far.
About the 404 conflict, Germany gov is now for a “Finland solution” , another gaffe when you remember Finland abandoned it’s neutrality to end up joining NATO …like last year.
I was expecting stupidity from Annalina and she never disappoint 🙂

Posted by: Savonarole | Nov 6 2024 13:52 utc | 125

Trump just got bought by netinyhoo, expect Genicide in america.
Expect the trump far right to shrug off the nicey nicey cuddly persona and morphe into full on US banderites.
After the party comes the hangover.
“After the laughter comes tears”
Here comes reality.

Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 6 2024 13:53 utc | 126

The key question for a Trump administration will be financial.
Three choices to tackle federal debt;
1) massive inflation to devalue
2) slash spending by like 30%
3) “restructure” debt
It’s going to be entertaining to see the budget battles next Spring. BTW 10 year shoots up to 4.4% now

Posted by: Exile | Nov 6 2024 13:56 utc | 127

And like magic, all at once it is OK again to refer to someone with a penis and testicles as a dude, regardless of what they pretend to be: “We got called names” – Martina Navratilova claims vindication, labels Imane Khelif a “male”

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 14:00 utc | 128

Thank you, b! I am happy to see the result posted correctly by you. I did not vote, and I am glad that I did not. Wiser folk than I am have decided the issue.
I believe you are not entirely correct in your assessment of Trump. He is not perfect and probably will make some mistakes, but as folk here have said, he has a much stronger team this time, and I believe he will listen to them. He will make mistakes but not the same ones he made before.
I am still having difficulty posting, so I will mostly read. This is good news. My hope is that the US will now be a peaceful nation.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 6 2024 14:00 utc | 129

You are projecting. The Zionists have run down America and they are busy genociding:
‘The Republican vice presidential nominee went on to argue that Vice President Kamala Harris talks publicly about trying to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties while advancing a policy “that maximizes those casualties.”’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vance-us-and-israeli-interests-won-t-always-overlap-we-don-t-want-war-with-iran/ar-AA1t6In6

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 14:00 utc | 130

RFKjr. and Tulsi grifters?
Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 6 2024 13:44 utc | 123
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Window dressing.
Musk, Paulson and Thiel should give anyone pause.
Trump’s principle courtiers will fall on each other like a pack of vicious dogs. Maybe it takes a year, but it won’t be long. That is the kind of people they are.

Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 14:02 utc | 131

Vance went on to argue that pro-Israel Americans were even “more militaristic” than Israelis in their response to Hamas’s October 7 onslaught.
The Israelis were like, ‘Okay, Hamas just attacked us. We’re gonna go really screw Hamas up… There’s a humanitarian side of that, and we want to try to minimize civilian casualties.’

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 14:03 utc | 132

‘Trump’s principle courtiers will fall on each other like a pack of vicious dogs.’
No that is going to be Israel’s fate.

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 14:07 utc | 133

Mussolini returns to modern Italy
Saluto al Duce – Italian Patriotic Song
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsuU_RRSzHA

Posted by: Exile | Nov 6 2024 14:08 utc | 134

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 10:56 utc | 64
I saw one article recently that said up to 200 legal actions by the RNC in many states were started this election cycle. Many of those already had rulings before election day, some before early election starts.
Some were in states that Trump has won, and was projected to win. So why bother?
Of course it is to set the legal precedent When a federal judge rules something can/can’t happen in one state, it can then apply to all states, providing a legal action in each state. After 10 or 12 states get the ruling, the rest either fall in lone, or get quick judgments against them.
The actions include challenging voter registration rolls, absentee ballots (when, where and how to collect them), 2 (or more) party monitoring of polls, etc. With those actions happening before the election, it is much easier to get a quick ruling between the vote and 3 Jan, when the new congress gets seated.
Also without a medical lockdown, too many folks out there with cameras picking up things as they happen. Also more folks just involved due to the 2020 situation.
Isn’t it funny that Florida, (now the 3rd largest population) can have 98% of votes counted within an hour after polls close, and states like Arizona, Nevada and California may take “days” to tally theirs?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 6 2024 14:09 utc | 135

So…2016, 2020, 2024
Trump 62M 74M 76M
Dem 65M 81M 71M
let’s check with the messiah included 2008, 2014, 2016, 2020, 2024
Rep+trump 60M 66M 62M 74M 76M
Obama+dem 70M 61M 65M 81M 71M
(aprox)
What’s the outlier? By hook or by crook…
The least capable or charismatic dem candidates in decades got more than obama…

Posted by: Newbie | Nov 6 2024 14:13 utc | 136

Posted by: OldFart | Nov 6 2024 10:40 utc | 57
Happy to agree with you, sir!

Posted by: juliania | Nov 6 2024 14:13 utc | 137

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 6 2024 12:37 utc | 99
No that is not true at all.
There are federal regulations and laws that govern what a state can’t do in terms of access to voting, ballot types, etc.
The states still have a lot of leeway, but there is some uniformity enforced.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Nov 6 2024 14:14 utc | 138

There won’t be any ‘congratulations’ from Putin anyway. The U.S. is an unfriendly country.

Posted by: ostro | Nov 6 2024 14:17 utc | 139

Pryyrus 97 – Correct, he does not like endless foreign wars and cash spent on them.
The Ukronazi corrupt cash cow is over, and Bibi crazies will be on a short leash…………

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 6 2024 14:22 utc | 140

Since the truth is inconvenient, and world leaders are turning to poetry and metaphors to explain the merits and rationale for their supremacy, I’m going to do something for you.
“You” I mean American voters and European viewers, more than anyone else. The question is this: How does the rest of the world view this election? How does 95 percent of the planet view this election?
There are two elephants in a beautiful garden
One of them is tied up, and the other walks around loose, knocking down fences and ruining well-tended flower beds, wilting flowers, and saving a little of what’s left for the tied elephant.
Every four years, the elephants’ owner turns them loose for fun, whereupon they fight with their long trunks and worn tusks, crushing everything around with their big paws…
One elephant emerges victorious and the other is tied up again.
The garden is depleted and destroyed by the fight, but everyone acts as if it didn’t happen, but each time, the fences are stronger, the green vegetables are protected by stronger thorns, and the loose elephant has a little more trouble grabbing his food and that of his companion, while he gets hurt and both get thinner.
In four years it will be even more difficult and laborious, and perhaps they won’t let them fight… perhaps, next time, instead of releasing the other elephant, they will tie up the loose one.
The big animals, old and blind, have no other option than to obey and be docile, because they are locked up, powerless, and they don’t know how to do anything other than get up on two legs and give a huge cry to ask for more food.
One day, there will be no one to feed them.
No one.
The rest of the world sees the American elections as a tragedy for the planet and for the people of that country…
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2024/09/cazadores.html

Posted by: Santi | Nov 6 2024 14:22 utc | 141

About stubborn Trump
I wrote in Telegram a couple of days ago about the furious bipartisan anti-Russian consensus on Capitol Hill. These assessments are fair, including taking into account the majority of “elephants” received in the Senate.
But Trump has one quality that is useful for us: as a businessman to the core, he mortally dislikes spending money on various hangers-on and freeloaders – on idiotic allies, on stupid charity projects and on gluttonous international organizations.
Toxic Bandera Ukraine is in the same row. The question is how much will they force Trump to give for the war. He is stubborn, but the system is stronger.
In any case, today the green scum in Kyiv will bury themselves in white powder up to their ears…
— Dmitry Medvedev

Posted by: ostro | Nov 6 2024 14:22 utc | 142

Exile | Nov 6 2024 13:56 utc | 127
Three choices to tackle federal debt:
1) massive inflation to devalue
2) slash spending by like 30%
3) “restructure” debt
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I thought Trump was going to win, but didn’t really care either way since, as you point out, the real key regardless of ‘Murican desire for a return to the easy 80s is the harsh reality of 20s post Imperial power.
While there are rarely sure things in the financial markets, the inevitable pressure to default, devalue and restructure is 100% baked in; so, play it as it lies. Of course the resulting massive inflationary effects, 20%+ unemployment, and collapsing overseas military position will only add fuel to the fire.
My advice, no different than that of any other prudent person, is get out of debt. Next, try to acquire to the best of your abilities real assets in areas where you match the existing demographics (race, religion, income, political POV, etc).
This is going to be one hell of a ride.

Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 14:23 utc | 143

DJT wants the endless foreign wars ginned up by the neo con CIA (he wants to break the CIA up) to end….its bad for the economy.
Remember he ordered a complete Syrian withdrawal, only to be ignored by the Chinese agent General Red Milley…………….he also wanted all US troops out of Iraq too….and his orders were ignored……

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 6 2024 14:26 utc | 144

Trump will do as he’s told.

Posted by: Barofsky | Nov 6 2024 14:28 utc | 145

The main issue whether not Trump (and world peace) will have succes is that he manages to keep the sneaky NeoCon “advisors” far away.
I could see some sneaky rat get in and talk him into propping up Taiwan more in prder to start a war there. A nightmare would be to use the ProjectUkraine recipe to supply Taiwan with everything; while not entering in a war.
However, I see a large challenge in avoiding China managing to isolate the Island, so no more arms get there. Still, the crazy MIC-plants that are EVERYWHERE in DC could try anything.

Posted by: NorwegianPawn | Nov 6 2024 14:31 utc | 146

do as he’s told.
Projection sorry

Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 14:35 utc | 147

Is the ballot paper layout a matter of state government rather than federal?
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Nov 6 2024 12:33 utc | 98
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Other than the date on which the general elections are held, states have almost unlimited discretion in determining how they are held.
Posted by: malenkov | Nov 6 2024 12:37 utc | 99
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Whilst election procedures are legally within the domain of state government, the decisions states make concerning who gets on the ballot is shaped by private interests, such as by the DNC.
The DNC operators us various maneuvers to control which candidates are on the ballot. In my state these private-club interests, the DNC and their gophers, kept Jill Stein off the ballot whilst requiring JFK Jr. to remain on it even as he requested removal. Their goal was to favor the D party candidate, in the first case by limiting Stein voters and in the latter by encouraging voters to split the support for T by voting JFK jr.
Now that their bag of tricks have failed, prepare for more tyranny from them if they can get away with it.

Posted by: suzan | Nov 6 2024 14:41 utc | 148

snake says
The easy way for Trump to end the war in one day in Ukraine.. is to offer to repair and make active the Nord Stream II pipeline from Russia to Germany.. in exchange for Russia’s halt in Ukraine. Russia to be allowed to keep the Donbass and Crimea. Z to be tried, convicted and fried.. Just like they did Saddem Huesian.. and Ukraine not to be allowed to join NATO.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 6 2024 9:08 utc | 26
Every single Biden-Harris appointee needs to security escorted out of their DC offices on 1/20/25, no exceptions.
One of the big mistakes made in DJT first term was allowing Obama holdovers to continue to hold positions, that was a huge mistake. These holdovers actually attempted a coup in the Russia gate fiasco.
All JCOS officers also need to be fired asap. The Milley group of neo con stooge general need be released.
All US Attorneys need to be immediately fired.
Jack Smith need to be fired and arrested for treason.
FBI Director Chris Wray, who deliberately covered up for the Biden Crime family needs to fired. He basically hide the Hunter laptop, and is now in the process of arresting political opposition figures all over the country. The FBI needs to broken up. The are now really the American Stasi.
Like JFK had planned, the CIA deep state needs to be broken up in detail. Its a clear threat to the American Republic. Its hip deep in the Ukrainian Nazi disaster. It formulated the Maidan coup.
<=yes Trump supporters will insist on this.. the deep state owned media is likely to leash out..in denial..

Posted by: snake | Nov 6 2024 14:44 utc | 149

If we can go by what Trump has said, and that is at least possible, support for Israel will grow, support for Ukraine will shrink.

Posted by: Jmaas | Nov 6 2024 14:46 utc | 150

So we will have a President showing his love of common people by going to an elite golf course in a trash collecting truck. The elect is full of … his truck content, and the hope is that as he has attention deficiency, the evil will be less systematic than before.
I view Democratic Party like a house on a very attractive piece of real estate, its historical voter base, but totally rotten, so the best thing that may happen is to tear it down and build again. It will not happen, but perhaps some meaningful renovations…
About real or overblown fascistic tendencies of Trump. The most concrete is the support of police brutality, which is widespread although not universal problem in USA. Things that may happen can be mind blowing, like arresting a young man, basically for nothing, in such a way that he had to spend more than a month in a hospital and remains covered by burn scars, it was 45 C in the shade on this afternoon in Phoenix, with no shade, and cops pressed him face down to the pavement for many minutes, ignoring his howls of pain. Happened in June (July?), and police and DA do not release any information and body camera footage but “investigate”. Phoenix is one of the rotten police department that requires federal supervision, but in Trump years, Department of Justice ignore all such needs. Reforming police in US is devilishly complicated, but Trump simply runs on being tough, read, brutal.
A rare foreign policy remark in election ads claim that “Weakness of the Biden/Harris administration led to two wars”. This is typical, not promising, formulation. “Make America powerful again” is another. Sinister slogans, although may be empty.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2024 14:48 utc | 151

It’s been obvious since Istanbul, my view well before, that the only way the Ukrainian war was going to end was with the unconditional capitulation of Ukraine. The neutralisation of Ukraine is going to happen one way or another and always was.
For the Russians, “neutralisation” means “demilitarisation and denazification”. Just that. Territorial adjustments are irrelevant, though there are going to be a whole lot of people in Russia – in the Russian General Staff too! – who are going to be more than upset if those territorial adjustments don’t lead to the reintegration of regions previously accepted as Russian.
That’s not the primary goal of the SMO though. The primary goal of the SMO is neutralisation. “They (the Russians) want to end up with a neutral remnant Ukraine, one released from the domination of the ultras and no longer usable by us as a base for further destabilisation activities. … precisely how they’re going to achieve that they probably don’t know for sure yet and we don’t know at all.”
The Trump victory, though I personally was very pleased to see it, will make no difference to that outcome in remnant Ukraine. It will, I very much hope, lead to an earlier end to the war there and thus fewer deaths. It will not alter that end.
It cannot alter it. We have heard much talk in the West of “deals” with Russia that will leave remnant Ukraine more or less within the Western orbit. We hear of “DMZ’s”, Korean solutions, two Germany solutions, Japanese solutions even, temporary ceasefires, and also, much talked about, a “Trump solution”.
Maybe those “deals” could have been put on the table before February 2022. I doubt it, but I don’t know. They’re not on the table now. For all the talk of “Istanbul 2″ that deal too is off the table. I wish to hell we in the West had actually read what the Russians said, instead of relying on the scraps that are retailed to us, and that often inaccurately, by our politicians and journalists. And what the Russians have said on any sort of compromise peace deal is set out in just one sentence:-
” Naturally, this entails the removal of all Western sanctions against Russia as well.”
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1957107/
This condition set out again by Lavrov later, this time talking directly and unfiltered to a Western audience in Newsweek:-
“- and removal of all sanctions against Russia.”
” https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russias-lavrov-warns-dangerous-consequences-us-ukraine-1964468
Not going to happen. I simply can’t imagine President Trump removing “all sanctions”. If he wanted to, he couldn’t. And if he could, how would he take the bitterly anti-Russian European politicians along with him?
So no “deal”. The Ukrainian war might indeed come to an end sooner than if Vice-President Harris had won. I hope it does. With any luck we’re not going to fight that war to the very last Ukrainian. It’ll still end with the neutralisation of Ukraine in accordance with the Russian goals set out at the beginning of the SMO. And we in Europe are still in for Cold War II.
It’s not going to be as comfortable and agreeable a cold war as Cold War I.
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The material above stolen from discussions elsewhere. The italicised passage taken from a discussion on Colonel Lang’s old site. The Putin and Lavrov quotes from Canadian Dimension.
https://turcopolier.com/does-russia-face-military-collapse-by-2026-inside-ukraines-strategic-assessment/#comments
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/ukraines-victory-plan-faces-sobering-realities

Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 6 2024 14:49 utc | 152

Posted by: Diversity Heretic | Nov 6 2024 7:52 utc | 1
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Former CIA director Mike Pompeo promised on the campaign trail that under Trump, America would take down the “Ring of Fire”, which is Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq.
I really wonder how many MoA regulars actually paid any attention to what people standing next to Trump on stage were promising and promoting,

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 6 2024 14:51 utc | 153

I am in agreement with Old Fart and Julianna.
Given the incredible obstacles that Trump had to overcome – weaponization of the law, demonization by corporate media, multiple assassination attempts – his victory represents a remarkable turn of events in the United States. The majority of Americans rejected the new ideology of the Woke Democratic party that manifested itself into censorship, open borders, lawlessness, and a general contempt of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The American public finally saw through the lies of the mainstream media – propaganda masquerading as news, which has systematically misinformed the people about what is happening in the world. There clearly is panic in the ruling elite. Let us hope that the current regime in D.C. will not choose to start World War 3 as a means to stop Trump from taking office.

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 6 2024 14:52 utc | 154

…. This is going to be one hell of a ride.
Posted by: mark…..
Indeed. The financial math is inescapable. This time around the foreign vassals won’t accept another Plaza Accord like in 1985.

Posted by: Exile | Nov 6 2024 14:52 utc | 155

The stunningly unasked question about the DNC and Democrats at large is why they didn’t push Kamala Harris (or better candidate) instead of humiliating their constituency with the self-propelled zombie Pres, before the race was in full speed … [..]
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 6 2024 13:02 utc | 109
My tentative answer is that zombies were in charge, and, surprise! they preferred zombie presidents.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2024 14:53 utc | 156

Posted by b on November 6, 2024 at 7:42 UTC | Permalink
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Yes b, it is in everyone’s interest for Trump to lose every conflict because Trump is now the unquestioned avatar of American colonialism and genocide. To support Trump as American President is to support misery and suffering.
I wonder how some at MoA (you know who you are) will feel now that their guy will be absolutely responsible for the dismembered children and starvation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 6 2024 14:57 utc | 157

DJT detests Volo in every single way……..he believes Volo is a crook and a fraud, and was behind along with the neo fascist Vindman brothers the first impeachment of the POTUS.
The stolen cash pipeline to Kieve is about dry up. so is the ammo and equipment pipeline.
Expect a Kieve surrender very soon.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 6 2024 8:54 utc | 21
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Good points. Thanks for reminding me of the detestable Vindmans.
I think one of them was running for office somewhere . . . a House seat in Virginia. I don’t see clear results there yet.
I think Trump must choose his targets for retribution carefully.
That Vindman creep, Alexander, I think, should be top of the list for revenge eaten cold.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 6 2024 14:57 utc | 158

“Where is the list of all Trump’s campaign promises?”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2024 7:54 utc | 2
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Like Putin’s 3 objectives for the SMO, Trump gave 3 objectives for his second term in his speech last night.
1. Close the border. People coming to America must go through the legal process.
2. Bring back jobs and rein in inflation.
3. Make America great again.
Once he gets those 3 things resolved then we can ask what he’s going to do next. Keep it simple.

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 14:59 utc | 159

When they said “pivot to Asia” everyone was thinking China, and still are, but the first step is genocide in Palestine.
Taiwan next, or Iran first? Georgia on the edge? Somewhere else? Another Kazakhstan attempt? Turkmenistan? Korea? Circumstance decides? Anywhere and everywhere?
How flexible are their plans?

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 6 2024 14:59 utc | 160

“- and removal of all sanctions against Russia.”
” https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russias-lavrov-warns-dangerous-consequences-us-ukraine-1964468
Not going to happen. I simply can’t imagine President Trump removing “all sanctions”. If he wanted to, he couldn’t.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 6 2024 14:49 utc | 152
Note what was happening during negotiations with North Korea to get the feel of Trump’s mode of operation. He could choose paleocons for key positions, but he chose Bolton. Some of his remarks cause panic among neo-barbarians (the amalgam of neo-liberals and neo-conservatives), is this tribe ALWAYS panics and claims that the sky is falling, but nothing really happen. Act 2: Russia and North Korea are best friends ever, while China watches with smile. If it were only North Korea, it would not matter much, but Trump contributed to the disaster we have now. Now, beauty contest: Pompeo or Blinken?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 6 2024 15:00 utc | 161

Not necessarily true. History shows that the Congress does not automatically rubber stamp Executive Orders, even when the majority are members of the same Political Party as the President. . . .
Posted by: Menz | Nov 6 2024 12:22 utc | 94
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We have had too much governing by executive order.
That explains a lot of the expansion of the power of the executive branch.
It is a good thing IMO if Congress remembers its duties under powers under the Constitution: pass laws, control the purse, advise and consent, and declare war, among other things.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 6 2024 15:02 utc | 162

Last time, it was a choice between two billionaire draft-dodgers. America has again proved they cannot do worse and cannot do better. The painting on the wall has long dried. Stupid voters don’t matter. They will meekly take what they can get even when there’s nothing good on offer. The country is a disgrace.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Nov 6 2024 15:06 utc | 163

LoveDonbass @157: “I wonder how some at MoA (you know who you are) will feel now that their guy will be absolutely responsible for the dismembered children and starvation.”
And if Trump does the miraculous and actually ends a war or two that Demonrats started, will you do the honorable thing and commit seppuku? After all, if Trump manages to stop one or more of the major conflicts, it will be proof incontrovertible that you personally were responsible for those wars in the first place… you voted for them.
You really should sharpen up your gut knife, just in case.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 15:12 utc | 164

Does the president in waiting have much influence, or is it another two months of identical policy regarding Palestine ?

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 6 2024 15:14 utc | 165

Ornot @165: “Does the president in waiting have much influence, or is it another two months of identical policy regarding Palestine ?”
No official power until the inauguration, but Trump can undermine current policy that he feels needs changing with public statements.
Let’s see what he does. He has already claimed he intends to end the wars, and that has got to have some bad people developing intestinal upset.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 15:18 utc | 166

Trump brazenly beats two women to advance his own career and dreams.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 6 2024 15:21 utc | 167

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 6 2024 10:13 utc | 46
“Start digging tunnels now if you want to stay free.”
Save yourself the trouble. Just pack up and move to Canada like all the weepy Hollywood elite. Maybe you can get the seat on the bus next to Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 15:21 utc | 168

LoveDonbass@153…..he threw down a gauntlet…..is the Resistance up to the task. Act……or React.
Cheers M
…..lots of reaction to date, the Apartheid State still controls the Death March…..will Trump finally give all of Lebanon up to river to the Apartheid State and build a 150 mile buffer zone to keep them safe, looks like that’s underway…..
I’d think they already have the ink dry on the deed to Crimea, full Presidential Declaration….Crimea is Ukraine….

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 6 2024 15:22 utc | 169

“Last time, it was a choice between two billionaire draft-dodgers…..”
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Nov 6 2024 15:06 utc | 163
You say that like it’s a bad thing. I’m a proud draft dodger. Going over to SE Asia and “killin’ some gooks” does not make you a better person.

Posted by: jr | Nov 6 2024 15:24 utc | 170

I really wonder how many MoA regulars actually paid any attention to what people standing next to Trump on stage were promising and promoting,
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 6 2024 14:51 utc | 153
It is astonishing. People are acting like we haven’t already had four years of Trump to judge him by. He gave iSSrael the Golan and his refusal to condemn Israel’s massacres in the peaceful great return march helped set up the current genocide. And does everyone forget that he is the one who changed US law to allow Javelins and other weaponry to be used by Ukrainian Nazis against Russian speakers in the Donbass?
As someone said earlier — meet the new boss, same as the old.

Posted by: Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:26 utc | 171

Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 10:43 utc | 59
“Enjoy your smaller slice of a shrinking pie. Eat it with pride.”
America has enough pie to go around if we stop the flood coming across the border and then get rid of all our blood-sucking elites. Maybe we can send them to repopulate Ukraine?

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 15:31 utc | 172

It was the democracy, stoopid. Have a look at those election maps. Count the counties and not so much the big cities and their burbs. Perhaps Trump was and is great rhetoric with little substance…but his approach was massively accepted by (1. almost the entirety of rural America…the real America…and (2. the millions of working stiffs who have come to realize that the American Dream that they had believed in has now evaporated into full-out rule from the top of the politico-economic scrotumpole.
Trump and his party have won…tellingly. But guess what? The democracy, the actual majority of Americans, is expecting results. Trump is whether he realizes that or not…on PROBATION.
Trust is a precious thing. It is not a commodity. It cannot be bought. The Great Awakening is upon us and it is a strange amalgam, a combination of traditionalists of more than one stripe and curiously, effervescing amongst Gens Y and Z…most specifically those younger folks who have developed a deep distrust of institution. In a sense, Trump intuited that yeasty conglomeration of the fed-up along with those who have not given up their existential hope for a brighter future.
Expectations will be high throughout the Heartland…a landing space which is both geographical and attitudinal. The over-miseducated, concentrated mainly on the two coasts…along with large urban agglomerations such as Chicago, Atlanta and Denver…have LOST. Even in my blue, blue state of Minnesota, early election returns indicated that only the Twin Sitties, Duluth, Rochester and Moorhead…along with a smattering of college towns and regional governance centers…favored the Democrat party. Realization amongst the democracy, We The People, that Joe and Joan Paycheck have been confused, misused and abused by an administrative bureaucracy mainly comprised of those who sport a string of letters tailing their surnames.
In my little Northwoods county, the mega-agribizzies (not real farmers, but heavy equipment operators and chemical warfare applicators) almost uniformly displayed Harris/Walz signs in front of their driveways. Why so? Soybean and corn crops are subsidized by the govmint and so is the crop-insurance racket.
Trump’s administration will need to be very careful in cutting assistance for medical care, energy needs and even food-stamp benefits. The folks who actually (in most cases) need the help in this corporate and bank$ter controlled dog eat dog economy. No. The cuts will need to be imposed on the Big Dogs, the genuine parasites. Tax relief and low-interest loans for small business folks will be needed to create a recovery from the Plandemic Lockdowns which effectually destroyed tens of thousands of those entrepreneurial enterprises.
Born with a silver spoon up his voluminous derriere, Donald J. Trumpenstein will be expected by the democracy to actually PRODUCE and not merely spout nice words and retractable promises.
Expectations on the part of the vast majority of those who voted for change are extremely high. The democracy is a rough beast which will NOT accept being fooled again. THAT level of suspicion must be addressed, beginning on January 20,2025.

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 6 2024 15:33 utc | 173

Posted by: Joseph Dillard | Nov 6 2024 9:48 utc | 34
Spot on – took the words right from my keyboard!
I also believe strongly the pivot to China is how Trump will try to leave a legacy.

Posted by: Peter Camenzind | Nov 6 2024 15:35 utc | 174

Gengar @171: “It is astonishing….”
Same advice to you. Better sharpen up your belly whittler in case Trump actually stops the killing like he says he wants to. If Trump manages to accomplish that, then it will become an inescapable fact that you personally have been responsible for the killing, and decent people should feel really bad about that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 15:36 utc | 175

Posted by: aristodemos | Nov 6 2024 15:33 utc | 173
Even if he doesn’t follow through, it doesn’t matter. The democracy circus will just go on with its football politics to ping pong all dissatisfaction away, it’ll go on as it always has as it is designed.

Posted by: Autumn | Nov 6 2024 15:39 utc | 176

I’m a proud draft dodger.
Posted by: jr | Nov 6 2024 15:24 utc | 170
thank you for your courage.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 6 2024 15:39 utc | 177

One interesting side effect of Trump’s win is that he now has the opportunity to go after the people who tried to kill him. The “lonely shooter on the roof” story will not last for decades as the Oswald story did. The assassination attempt on July 13 was clearly MIHOP, not LIHOP, and a second shooter is not an outrageous conspiracy theory anymore, but an investigation path pursued by Republican lawmakers.
If July 13th is identified as an inside job, this will have a massive impact on other unsolved cases, from JFK to 9/11.

Posted by: mk | Nov 6 2024 15:40 utc | 178

Gengar has won ,”The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today”.
“It is astonishing. People are acting like we haven’t already had four years of Trump to judge him by.”
Posted by: Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:26 utc | 171
Hey Gengar how many wars did Trump start?

Posted by: canuck | Nov 6 2024 15:41 utc | 179

Prediction: Trump will continue to talk a big game about the border, and will definitely up the border theater—bigger wall, more razor wire, heck, maybe some show trials and a law allowing easier death penalty for migrants involved in violent crime. The actual border crossings will continue unabated.
Why? “It’s the economy, stupid.” You think the donor class behind both parties are going to want to swap their cheap illegal labor to in order to start paying fair wages to citizens? You think the obese American citizenry are gonna pick up all the backbreaking seasonal agricultural labor that migrant laborers do now? Lmao. I got a bridge to sell ya.

Posted by: Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:42 utc | 180

If Trump manages to accomplish that, then it will become an inescapable fact that you personally have been responsible for the killing, and decent people should feel really bad about that.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 15:36 utc | 175
I’m personally responsible? I gave Javelins to Nazis? No, sorry, that was Donald

Posted by: Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:43 utc | 181

It is an unusual interlude William. On the one hand you would think the existing legislation would be tempered and respectful and move towards allowing a smoother transition (and therefore somewhat attentive to the future president’s stance, even if just to try to maintain some kind of party dignity) , and on the other hand this period could be one where US command and “Israel” act to cram in as much event as possible before the change of leadership (and knowing that can all then be blamed by the new US on the outgoing legislature).
Even if existing US command and “Israel” have the free reign they exhibit now, I expect there will be some strong messaging finding its way through. Already it appears that part of the military is not at all content with direction in the near and middle east.
I don’t know, but I don’t think Palestine resistance or Lebanon or Iran or Syria are going to feel any the safer during this time.
As for when Trump is actually president, I won’t start to guess but it could hardly be worse than the existing legislative.
From my view, his involvement with “Israel” is a shame, and a distraction from more important domestic matters.
His election is the “less bad”, the Spanish have a way of saying it (menos mal) that carries a better meaning of that.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 6 2024 15:43 utc | 182

Posted by: canuck | Nov 6 2024 15:41 utc | 179
Hey Canuck who changed the law to allow US weaponry into the Ukrainian civil war?

Posted by: Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:45 utc | 183

Posted by: flying dutchman | Nov 6 2024 11:08 utc | 69
” The police will be fully unleashed against protestors. The censorship regime will zero in more aggressively than ever . . .”
The only people jailed, censored, fired, cancelled and doxxed are Trump’s allies and supporters. The first thing he should do is free all remaining J6 political prisoners. And yes, I hope the police will finally be unleashed against all the “firey but mostly peaceful” protestors. After four years of suffering their violent attacks on our country while the authorities looked the other way it would be great to have the rule of law restored.

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 15:46 utc | 184

From another thread:

I encourage barflies to vote for Jill Stein in the hope she will get at least 5% of the vote which would give America a much needed 3rd party.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 4 2024 17:27 utc | 39

In response to a comment like this (possibly from psychohistorian) I remarked that Stein would be lucky to get 1% of the popular vote. As of right now AP has her at 623,125 votes — which sounds awfully impressive until one realizes that that’s a full 0.4% of the popular vote. (For what it’s worth, that’s more than any other third-party candidate, including RFK Jr.)
A lot of us are so comfortable at the bar that we tend to forget there’s a real world out there where the vast majority of the population has simply never heard of Jill Stein, and most of those who have, would scorn the thought of voting for her because “that’s just a vote for Trump.”

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 6 2024 15:46 utc | 185

I disagree with B’s assessment that Trump in his previous term hired the people who opposed or sabotaged his policies.
Trump hired those people to execute his policies to shift the blame while maintaining an anti-establishment, anti-deep state, anti-war posture. It was Trump who chose to make antipathy to Iran the centerpiece of his foreign policy. Trump could not extricate the US from the region, while simultaneously pursuing a more aggressive anti-Iranian policy than his predecessor. The pursuit of that anti-Iranian policy has had a great deal to do with the failure to bring US involvement in multiple unnecessary wars to an end. This was not something foisted on him by others, but has been his own doing from the beginning. When his subordinates disagreed with him about the nuclear deal as Tillerson and McMaster did, he replaced them sooner or later, and he chose even more bellicose and aggressive people to take their place. He has signed off on every aggressive anti-Iranian move he could.
Trump wanted to quit the deal but wanted Iran to take the blame but after multiple inspections, Tillerson regrettably noted that Iran is in compliance.
Evasion of responsibility is a matter of supreme importance in the West.

Posted by: wealstarr | Nov 6 2024 15:54 utc | 186

Posted by: Scottindallas | Nov 6 2024 12:01 utc | 83
“Billy Gruff, a lame duck is a candidate that isn’t running again and not subject to concerns about being reelected. However a lame duck may not have much support from others as they have no coat-tails.”
True, but traditionally it refers to the last two years of a president’s second term when he isn’t eligible to run again and the midterm elections have whittled down his party’s majority.

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 15:57 utc | 187

@ Gengar | Nov 6 2024 15:43 utc | 181
Agree. One step further: Perhaps Gruff is more responsible than most here, by — if I read him correctly — helping sell “Bernie” (in 2016 and now as a write-in candidate!), and lashes out at us losers (inferior to those wonderful Elon MICsters harnessing fusion and space launches for, you know, the good of humankind), due to unreconciled issues over pitching us a traitor, naively or knowingly.

Posted by: i forgot | Nov 6 2024 15:58 utc | 188

@Tobias Cole #26
The reason why Obama holdovers were kept on was the same reason why neocons popped up in Trump’s first term: he was unprepared.
Barnes has been explicit that this time, it is different. Not just because of RFK Jr and Tulsi and Vance vs Pence, but because he knows the dinosaur neocon Republican faction is not to be trusted with anything.
Now we wait to see who he appoints for his Cabinet and who gets put into the various agency upper layers.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 6 2024 15:59 utc | 189

What an ugly, rotten, bloody farce.
Posted by: JB | Nov 6 2024 12:51 utc | 105
Yes, it’s ugly and rotten, but it should come as no surprise that a capitalist state is ruled by the bourgeoisie.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 6 2024 16:00 utc | 190

firey but mostly peaceful” protestors. After four years of suffering their violent attacks on our country while the authorities looked the other way it would be great to have the rule of law restored.
Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 15:46 utc | 184
what if they are protesting genocide in Palestine?
I said how I feel about this. Im glad to there were no delayed counts and 98% finds of ballots.
I definitely can not predict, or worse, try to compare Trump to how Harris would have done it.
I feel like a statement was made about the media, (the true rigging of elections starts way before the ballot box) but the elite never listen…
…probably for the better Trump won? Apparently Grinnel helped with the Muslim vote in Michigan. But zionism of that calibre really sucks ass. Cautious is how I feel, very cautious, not “cautiously optimistic”, just cautious. I think the USA is damned no matter who won, and I live here, so pain for me coming.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 6 2024 16:05 utc | 191

As of right now AP has [Stein] at 623,125 votes…
@ malenkov | Nov 6 2024 15:46 utc | 185
That makes me feel slightly significant — albeit very slightly. Just think: without me and mine, Jill would’ve only scored 623,123!
Five percent? Are you freaking kidding me? For people like us, electoral strategization like that is so beside the point. Some of us just plain cannot, in what we think of as “good conscience,” put a little black mark of approval next to the name of a genocidal maniac.
Honestly: I know next to nothing of Stein, aside from her apparent antiwar sincerity. But that’s all that matters in a time of historic genocide — viz. stopping it. The pathetically tiny turnout of antiwar voters doesn’t change a thing for me and my own so-called conscience.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 6 2024 16:06 utc | 192

…probably for the better Trump won?
Posted by: UWDude | Nov 6 2024 16:05 utc | 191
I do have the feeling that we just wound back the doomsday clock a few minutes.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 6 2024 16:06 utc | 193

“The American people have made a disastrous choice. And they have done so decisively, and with their eyes wide open.”

Posted by: hightrekker | Nov 6 2024 16:07 utc | 194

Hollywood writes the scripts first and casts the actors second.
If “Trump” changes anything, it’s because that’s what’s written in the script.
So, perhaps we can naively entertain some hope that Trump’s selection portends a little less stupidity and horror. Things can also get worse.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 6 2024 16:08 utc | 195

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Nov 6 2024 12:33 utc | 98
“One strange detail… a little off-topic – concerning the Alaskan ballot paper which I understand required a voter to place the candidates in order of preference (1 > X). Can this be true? Is the ballot paper layout a matter of state government rather than federal? It’s the first I’ve heard of it, although familiar with preferential or proportional representation. Anyone?”
It’s called “ranked choice voting” and is a nefarious scheme cobbled together to reduce the chance that a challenger can unseat an unpopular office holder. Very few states have it. Californians last night voted down an amendment to implement ranked choice voting.

Posted by: Paranaense | Nov 6 2024 16:09 utc | 196

thought I would need to cruise the pro Israel, pro Ukraine DLC websites to see heads exploding. Just how much cognitive dissonance is required to feign opposition (if that happened) to genocide and Nuclear War while supporting (it would clearly appear) the forces directly behind these despicable policies?
Let em Eat Yellow Cake.
whole new war ahead, within our borders, if these warmongers dont lay down their lies.
I have never been so gratified by an election result.
For those who havent heard or cannot understand-
Genocide is evil incarnate. Our doing, entirely. Or theirs if you think your hands are clean.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 6 2024 16:09 utc | 197

« Ô the End of Democracy, woeful fate ! From everything to nothing overnight ! The sky darkens as Trump-Hitler’s fascist shadow falls over the Land, ruining everything, EVERYTHING !!!1 »
*explodes into hysterical weeping*
Heheheh 😹

Posted by: Featherless | Nov 6 2024 16:10 utc | 198

Trump has been talking of ending the war in Ukraine and about better relations with Russia so Ukraine project will end.
Given family and donor ties the jury is still out on Israel, but my guess is that post elections Trump will be inclined to avoid further escalation.
That avoidance is not so much fueled by fear as some allege here, but simply because the businessman is well aware that wars are in general and more specifically in this case wars are loss making affairs while the US actually has no funds to spare given its internal and debt problems.
B seems to suffer from some TDS causing a very pessimistic view, but Trump is aware that the GOP poisonous personnel assignment during his 1st term was the main cause for his weakness. For instance someone like Barr, Haley,Pompeo, Wray will not have any position within his administration. That still leaves the Herculean task of cleaning out most branches of government from sleepers.

Posted by: j rijntjes | Nov 6 2024 16:11 utc | 199

Lots of speculation, but everyone ought to get a tabula rasa out for what happens from here: What Trump said during the campaign was then, the campaign’s over, now the selection of senior administration officials begins and that’s where the possible direction of Trump’s term can be more properly assessed. The real test comes on 20 January 2025 when he swears to uphold and defend the Constitution, which he failed at last time from day one. Too many people forgot that Trump as president was a criminal meriting impeachment and removal, mistakes he made all on his own. He has an opportunity to overturn that legacy. Who he chooses for cabinet positions will indicate if he’ll attempt to rectify his past or continue it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 6 2024 16:12 utc | 200

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