Election 2024 – Random Thoughts

November 6, 2024

Some random thoughts on Trump's reelection.

Trump's win in 2024 does not prove that the 2020 election was stolen by Democrats but it raises a new stink about the issue.

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When Biden was pushed out of the race there were calls among Democrats not to rush a choice, but to hold full-fledged primaries. Barack Obama had called for it. But Nancy Pelosi and the Clinton clan kept pushing for Harris. As a vacuous and unlikable person – carrying all the baggage of the Biden administration – she was the most likely to lose.

This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens.

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To send Bill Clinton to Michigan to justify the mass killing of Palestinians was not a good idea. The 2024 result in Dearborn, Michigan, a 90% Muslim area that Biden had won with 88% of the vote:

Trump: 46.8%
Harris: 27.68%
Stein: 22.11%

The Democrats will blame various groups – Muslim, progressives, youths – who's opinions and desires they had ignored, for their loss. And of course Russia.

Trump won the working class:

Jeff Stein @JStein_WaPo – 14:27 UTC · Nov 6, 2024

Staggering class realignment/shift in working class
Harris lost DESPITE major shift of affluent voters her way

2020: Trump wins voters over $100K, 54-52
2024: *Harris* wins voters over $100K, 54-45

2020: Biden wins voters $50K-$100K, 57-42
2024: *Trump* w/ voters $50K-$100K, 49-47

2020: Biden wins voters under $50K, 55-45
2024: Trump massive improvement w/ voters under $50K, 49-48

Harris had more billionaires on her side:

The Billionaire-ification of the U.S. Election

For the 2024 election, a staggering $15.9 billion has been spent on ads and campaigning by both Democrats and Republicans, making it the most expensive election in history; in just one week, nearly $1 billion has been poured into political ads.
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Eighteen percent of all political ad funding has come straight from the pockets of a tiny handful of America’s mega-rich. In fact, according to USA Today, Harris has 83 billionaires supporting her—making up 6% of her campaign funds, according to Al Jazeera—while 52 are backing Trump, but they’re extremely generous donors, making up 34% of his campaign fund.

In other words: the country’s wealthiest are bankrolling the election, wielding political power and influence like never before. Not only is this bad news for democracy, it’s catastrophic for the planet.

Trump is unlikely to have a full term. J.D. Vance will become president. He is the future of the Republican party.

Posted by b on November 6, 2024 at 17:49 UTC | Permalink

Comments

Erm if he won the popular vote then surely it stands to reason that Trump’s supporters are the majority of adult Americans
Posted by: Milites | Nov 7 2024 23:34 utc | 298
Well maybe… if your definition of reason means not knowing any arithmetic.
Only about 60% of the eligible voters chose to vote and Trump got a little more than half those votes.
So one could say for sure a little over 30% are Trump supporters.
You should count your blessings that most adult Americans don’t believe in or care about the electoral process like Trump supporters do. If they did Trump would have lost in a landslide.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 1:00 utc | 301

1. To whomever it may concern please stop the obvious “high school” level goading of Jane and/or anybody else. For your own sake/pride if nothing else despite how unintentionally hilarious it is to see in a place like this filled with …”persons of interest”/”terrorists”/”people on lists” and other such things (myself included of course but likely everyone here one way or another!), as well as those who remain completely silent (not everybody sits in front of the taps yapping like we do! 😀 ).
2. I’m amazed I somehow already knew about Peanut the Squirrel 🙂 (100% randomly the other day I saw a single US front page, maybe from the NY Post, and it was a full page picture of said demised squirrel and a headline or two that gave enough of a clue as to what had happened).
3. Maybe tomorrow I can try to catch up with the threads and see if anyone is talking about the various recent news on such things as Ansar Allah crowdfunding their missiles, Russian AI-enabled rats answering known science questions (in yes/no form —they’re not holding talks or understanding anything), or the Facebook AI story I privately named “Metafuck” (yikes, perhaps I should reconsider calling it that).
Anyway I should be asleep (I’ve already messed up by starting to read MoA and ruined tomorrow, I might have to cancel stuff :/ ).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 8 2024 2:19 utc | 302

@ Turk 152 | Nov 7 2024 20:00 utc | 292
lol..yeah, that is how it works in the real world! maybe moa is no different..

Posted by: james | Nov 8 2024 2:26 utc | 303

In many precincts in the US during the 2020 election, more ballots were received and counted than existed registered voters !!!
In a free and fair election that is impossible…..fake mail in ballots were obviously used and counted.
This is prima fascia evidence of massive 2020 election fraud………
One hundred thousand pre printed ballots for Biden showed up in Harrisburg Pa in the middle of the night. Straight from LI, NY no less.
Of course the deep state alliance was responsible for the massive 2020 election fraud….its was the Obama, Holder, Rice, Pelosi, Zuck, Gateman alliance at work.
This time the Reps were pro active in hunting down the fraudsters………payback will be a bitch for the coup plotters…..time to leave for Cuba……

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 7:17 utc | 304

time to leave for Cuba……
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 7:17 utc | 303

and just what exactly does Cuba have to do with the shitshow which happens every 4 years in the USA?

Posted by: jure | Nov 8 2024 8:12 utc | 305

@jinn #300
But those grapes, they are sour anyway.
Trump won. Get over it.
Trump has not only won – he has a Republican Senate and House as well. And even the normal Republican party neocon dinosaur contingent is the smallest it has been in a long, long time – the populist Republicans won, the “old school” lost.
This despite Harris outspending Trump $1.6 billion to $1 billion.
Harris also had the entire mainstream media machine behind her, plus Hollywood, plus 96% of Washington DC.
The reality is that the Biden/Harris administration was so bad that literally every single demographic group except the wealthy and/or credentialed classes (= rich liberals) voted more for Trump than they did in 2020 or 2016.
Andrew Sarchus @294 above presumably links to the video where a CNN anchor asked an election expert to show where Kamala Harris in 2024 outperformed Joe Biden in 2020 – it was literally blank.
Not one single precinct in the entire United States.
That’s what happens when an incumbent President and his Vice President have a 28% approval rating going into an election – even disregarding all the other shenanigans of the coup, lawfare etc etc.
Mercouris summed it up very well: the last 4 years have been a litany of inflation, war, divisive bureaucratic election interference at both state and federal levels, federal fiduciary failure at an unprecedented scale (i.e. the “border”), outrageous spending for stupid and/or corrupt purposes.
It made the “Trump weariness” of 2020 look like a mere bad hair day.
I said it before, I say it again: the true gaslighting of this election was the notion that it was ever going to be close.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 8:42 utc | 306

@jinn #300
But those grapes, they are sour anyway.
Trump won. Get over it.
Trump has not only won – he has a Republican Senate and House as well.
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Of course Trump won as I predicted he would.
But you are delusional if you think Trump has the support of any more than about 35% of the US eligible voters.
That’s not sour grapes speaking that is the current objective reality.
Your belief that in 2020 Biden won because the election was stolen is more evidence you have lost touch with reality.
The evidence from analysis of 2020 down ballot voting shows clearly where most of the extra Biden votes came from.
Biden had millions more votes than his parties down ballot senate and governor races and Trump got the same millions fewer votes than his down ballot Republicans. In other words, a huge number of Republican leaning voters in 2020 vote for Biden. Normally its hard to quantify the down-ballot vote because one split ballot in one direction cancels a split vote in the opposite direction, but because so many split ballots went towards Biden its easy to see in the 2020 results. I expect a down-ballot analysis this time may indicate that many voters voted for nobody at the top of the ballot where as in 2020 results show that many voters voted just to oust Trump and skipped the rest of the ballot.
Pew Research found in their after-election surveys that 54% of voters who said they voted for Biden said the did so as a vote against Trump while only 26% of those who said they voted Trump said their vote was a not for Trump but against Biden.
There is one and only one explanation for the 81 million votes Biden got in 2020 – a huge number of voters wanted to fire Trump. That’s not a good look on a candidate who is hyped as being popular and so Trump and his supporters cling to the fantasy that the 81 million that voted against Trump are not real or legitimate and can’t except the reality.
You are correct that it looks like Trump now has a Republican Senate and House.
That means Trump has no good excuse for not doing what he has promised or appointing others to carry out those promises. If this term is not filled with lame excuses for not doing what he has said he would he might earn the support of more than 35%

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 16:07 utc | 307

Excerpt from Has Donald Trump Learned Anything from the Last Eight Years?
by Larry C. Johnson
https://sonar21.com/has-donald-trump-learned-anything-from-the-last-8-years/

… One of the more despicable creatures, in my view, is Mike Pompeo, who reportedly is campaigning to be named Secretary of Defense. He would be a disaster for Trump and for the security of this nation…. Some of us have not forgotten how sanctimoniously he threw Trump under the bus on the bogus Classified Documents case and the illegal appointment of Jack Smith as Special Prosecutor.
What Pompeo could have said, should have said, was,
“Donald Trump, as President had the ultimate authority to classify and declassify documents. He said that he declassified the documents confiscated at Mar A Lago and there are serious questions about the motives of the Department of Justice in this case.”
He could have done that, but he did not. If Trump and his team let this type of betrayal go unpunished, then I fear Trump is setting himself up for four more years of lawfare.
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Trump’s first act — naming his Chief of Staff — is a great indicator that he understands you have to have someone who gives a shit about you running your daily affairs. Susie Wise was in charge of this stunningly successful campaign and she is a clear head. She did not get the position because she has a vagina. She got it because she’s competent….it is historic — she is the first female Chief of Staff in the nation’s history.
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Trump’s brush with death in Butler, Pennsylvania changed him for the better. I think it was the first time in his life that he realized his own mortality. It humbled him and brought him the realization that there may have been Divine intervention. Now, what will he do with this?
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I am confident that he will bring a quick end to the war in Ukraine. I am less confident that he will avoid getting entangled in a war with Iran. There is enormous political pressure in Washington to attack Iran and no tolerance of anyone, like me, who suggests that negotiation and diplomacy are the best options for securing a peace between Israel, the Palestinians and Iran….

Larry C Johnson is a regular on Judge Napolitano’s Youtube channel Judging Freedom. Judge Nap has many high integrity, bright, former Intel/Military, and academic guests every week.
https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom
Johnson’s web sight: https://sonar21.com/
===
BTW: Joe Rogan Gets Trump to Discuss JFK Files and UFO Disclosure
Trump says he’ll release those files (but it sounds like they will be redacted to continue the coverup)
6.5 minutes
https://youtu.be/sozmnOjN97c?si=3gaosglTWdWuSnks
Believe it or not, there is a divine plan for this planet that can’t be deleted. The same Intelligence that created our sun & solar system oversee our evolution on our relatively primitive planet. They will not solve our problems for us. If they did we would learn nothing. We need the challenges to evolve.

“For centuries, governments have been known to have kept much information (usually embarrassing) from their peoples, thereby consolidating their power to rule. Nevertheless, is it not surprising that for over 60 years, modern governments, aided and abetted by a cynical media, have, more or less successfully, kept from the public their certain knowledge of the reality of UFOs and the fact of their peaceful activity?
…
All the planets… are interconnected &… in communication. This solar system acts as a unit — it is not one planet & a whole lot of dead planets.
Benjamin Creme (1922 – 2016)

The late Scottish author, artist & public speaker wrote & spoke about that for many years & never charged admission, nor did he accept any compensation for his books.
Large excerpts from his books can be found here:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Creme

“The whole purpose of the [UFO] cover up by the military & economic interests is to maintain their control over society.” Gerard Aartsen
S H O W — O U T — THE — L I E S ! !

Posted by: WillSeymour | Nov 8 2024 16:44 utc | 308

@jinn #307

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 17:32 utc | 309

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 16:07 utc | 307
Really convenient those extra votes only occurred in the counties of swing states, where they were needed, and not scattered in the usual dispersion pattern, when a candidate does well. Trump’s swing, this time, was near universal, irrespective of state or county, Biden’s 2020 was largely focused on individual counties in particular states. It’s those sorts of statistical incongruences, including the near identical composition of the post-election ballot drops (92% for Biden) that have people doubting the official narrative.
Within the first couple of months of 47’s second term the Democrats are going to wish they had let him win in 2020. Not only will his administration be a far more formidable opponent, but in their desperation to remove him, these last four years, they are in a far more vulnerable position, than before.

Posted by: Milites | Nov 8 2024 17:45 utc | 310

@jinn #307
It is becoming a clear that it is a waste of time discussing with you, because you don’t bother actually reading what other people write.
For the last time: what I have said before was that 2020 was stolen legally.
Stolen because the methods used do not pass the smell test of changes enacted for election integrity or budget constraints/increases or any other legitimate reason.
Legally because there has not been conclusive outcomes showing that these changes were illegal.
You could call it winning via loopholes or hacking an election or whatever – the outcome was changed in an inappropriate but legal manner such that Biden won.
However, the massive mail-in vote dropoff from 2020 to 2024 greatly raises the possibility that the legal rule changes were also accompanied by massive illegal practices like ballot harvesting.
I say this because the ballot dropoff was across the entire country whereas the inordinately high turnout of low propensity voters in 2020 was NOT across the entire country, it was entirely in a very distinct subset of Democrat True Blue strongholds.
If these turnout patterns had held true – i.e. these distinct regions had the same relatively high turnout vs. other, True Blue precincts, then mail-in ballots and/or other structural reasons are why 2020 happened.
Since this turnout disparity evaporated, the possibility that the mass mail-in ballots were the primary driver of high 2020 low propensity turnout is tremendously lower.
For example: maybe COVID caused low propensity voters to vote more because they were locked in, or vaccinated or whatever.
This is false because the higher turnout was not across the country or even across all True Blue strongholds. It was literally in a handful – and it made no sense because the behavior would literally stop on county lines. In other words, 2 True Blue precincts – one would have the massive higher low prop turnout but the other would not. This is extremely anomalous behavior.
Another example is your copium about mailing everyone a ballot. Well, the states that do not have mail-in ballot restrictions – saw the same mail-in ballot dropoff from 2020 to 2024 because once you are approved for mail-in ballot access, it does not get taken away unless there are state level rule changes. But even in states which obviously did not make such changes (i.e. blue states), the mail-in dropoff from 2020 to 2024 was huge.
So mail-in ballot access is clearly not the issue.
As for your brandishing of exit polls: all you do is show your lack of expertise.
Exit polls are 100% unreliable and it has been proven in literally every single election.
You are nowhere remotely as informed as you think you are.
In contrast: Rich Baris and Robert Barnes predicted not only the general outcome, but the specifics of Trump’s win in each state within 1% in 90%+ of the states. The only places they were wrong, were places like Florida where Trump performed even above their analysis – which you might note, is based on Baris’ publicly funded polling where all the details, the questions, the demographics etc are available to anyone who wants to see it.
The numbers and predictions I put up are their work. And I presented them because I have followed their work for 10+ years now, ever since they exhibited skill in 2016 after I found out about them roughly 2014.
Trump won.
Harris lost.
The Democrat party lost.
Deal with it.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 17:53 utc | 311

jinn | Nov 8 2024 16:07 utc | 307
“Pew Research found in their after-election surveys that 54% of voters who said they voted for Biden said the did so as a vote against Trump while only 26% of those who said they voted Trump said their vote was a not for Trump but against Biden.
There is one and only one explanation for the 81 million votes Biden got in 2020 – a huge number of voters wanted to fire Trump. That’s not a good look on a candidate who is hyped as being popular …”
That also means, only 46% voted for the person Biden alone (not as protest), while 74% voted for the person Trump. Which interpreted the other way round means, there actually must be more absolute votes for Trump and he is much more popular. As you see, these numbers don’t mean anything, and can be seen this or the other way.
I’m sorry, but you don’t seem to be the most logical of persons.

Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 8 2024 18:54 utc | 312

@jinn #307
It is becoming a clear that it is a waste of time discussing with you, because you don’t bother actually reading what other people write.
For the last time: what I have said before was that 2020 was stolen legally.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 17:53 utc | 311
If you could read you would know I said your belief that the election was stolen is a delusion.
Clarifying that your delusional story does include illegal activity still makes it a delusion. It just means you have another delusion that you are making arguments that you think counters something I said.
All your other irrelevant nonsense also makes it clear you will say anything to distract from the obvious fact that you can’t believe your worship of Trump is not shared by the vast majority of US citizens who are eligible to vote.
A record number of voters in 2020 voted to remove Trump from office. For millions of voters that was the only reason to vote. For them it was not about who would become present but only that Trump had to go.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 20:25 utc | 313

That also means, only 46% voted for the person Biden alone (not as protest), while 74% voted for the person Trump. Which interpreted the other way round means, there actually must be more absolute votes for Trump and he is much more popular.
Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 8 2024 18:54 utc | 312
I agree Trump is and always has been liked by more people than Biden.
But that’s not saying much, neither are liked by the majority of US adults.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 20:29 utc | 314

Really convenient those extra votes only occurred in the counties of swing states, where they were needed, and not scattered in the usual dispersion pattern, when a candidate does well.
Posted by: Milites | Nov 8 2024 17:45 utc | 310
That is the kind of fake story you would expect from someone who can’t pull his head out of the bubble he is stuck in. The actual truth is the direct opposite of what you wrote. The huge number of extra votes almost all came from the states where there was no chance they would have any affect on the election outcome.
I live in a state that voted Trump in 2016 then Biden in 2020 then Trump in 2024. The county I live in is the only county in the state that voted Trump then Biden then Trump again. There are only a handful of counties like that in the whole nation. Its a rural county that is straight Republican. All elected local officials are Republican. I don’t doubt the election results because I know many of my Republican voting neighbors were calling Trump a “jackass” back in 2020 and they were happy that Trump was tossed. Trump lost because he could not hold on to the old-school Republican voters in 2020.
There are only 6 or 7 states that decided the last three elections and the vote swing in those elections is only about 100k votes. Focusing on the millions of irrelevant votes is just another way of avoiding the truth.
Biden has the largest number of votes in history and yet his party lost 30 seats in the House. Those are facts that reveal the true story. Many Biden voters voted Republican down-ballot. More than enough Republicans voted for Biden in the places where it counts to give Biden the Electoral vote. That alone is enough to account for the 2020 outcome. There was no stolen election.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 21:41 utc | 315

@jinn #313, 314
All you do is destroy your own credibility.
I actually work with lawyers and law enforcement in both prosecution of and defense of criminal cases – the vast predominance of which are various forms of fraud because my actual expertise is cybersecurity.
I know from practice was fraud is and I know from years of experience, when a crime has likely occurred given evidence.
I have furthermore presented the reasons for my views, and how they have evolved in light of new evidence.
You, on the other hand, have done nothing but repeat garbage from mainstream media. Not one single piece of evidence. Not one piece of logic. Zero expertise or even common sense.
As a reasonable person, I have given you a pass despite your previous nonsense on other subjects.
It is transparently clear now that you are simply a dumbass.
Your insults, I literally laugh at because I know for a fact that you are just trying to cope with your massive cognitive dissonance from TRUMP WINNING!
Not just TRUMP WINNING but winning in a literally historic fashion.
LOLOLOL

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 21:47 utc | 316

Proof positive of a stolen 2020 election is the vote count for Kamyhoe…….she lost 15 million votes from Biden’s totals in 2020.
Nothing explains this except the fact that there were million of fraudulent mail in ballots manufactured by the Pelosi/Obama group and dumped into voting counting stations in the middle of the night…..that election was stolen and those responsible should be arrested, tried and expelled for high treason.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 22:30 utc | 317

I am looking forward to 4 years of laughing at Trump Follies, as fans try to make excuses or blame scapegoats! E.g., “foreigners pay tariffs!” Ha Ha Ho HO!

Posted by: lester | Nov 8 2024 22:42 utc | 318

Nothing explains this? Not support loss for year long genocide? Not massive inflation due to rabid economic war on Russia? Not voters seeing USA losing in war that propaganda said was won for 2+ years? Not Kamala being cackling incompetent avoiding showing up in media or saying any economic ideas? So according to you clowns none of this matters because stuff that would easily explain losing ground since 2020 is, uh, trivialities? Are you even listening to yourselves?

Posted by: Mr Vx | Nov 8 2024 23:07 utc | 319

The graph above is kind of hilarious – it doesn’t show 2008 because it would obliterate straight line BS because Obama also got massively more votes than he did in 2012 (also due to war, inflation, and not doing anything for the poorest he promised he would). But I guess identical drops from 08 to 12 as in 20 to 24 is uh, inconvenient story to sToLeN crowd?
Doubly hilarious in fact because if you draw identical line through red bars, Trumpo also has nearly identical jump from 2016 to 2020 as Biden does – was he trying to sTeAL the vote too? Why his LaNdSLiDe in 2024 got less votes than in 2020? Was he stopped from sTeaLiNg? Or maybe, just maybe, election in 2020 was special in some regard?
And then you have the fact that when Biden (who was nobody in 2020) somehow managed to sTeAL election from sitting president controlling whole law apparatus (guess who that was?) but did not even try to sTeAL it in 2024 when he was now sitting president controlling whole law apparatus (making any manipulation infinitely easier) – hello, anybody home? How does that make ANY sense?

Posted by: Mr Vx | Nov 8 2024 23:19 utc | 320

forms of fraud because my actual expertise is cybersecurity.
I know from practice was fraud is and I know from years of experience, when a crime has likely occurred given evidence.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 8 2024 21:47 utc | 316
A. what evidence?
B. you previously claimed there was no fraud nothing illegal.
Apparently, you believe nobody reads what you write or have you abandoned everything you wrote previously
There is evidence that a large number of votes were cast that were motivated by the desire to remove Trump. The problem is most of the votes were cast by voters who live in places where their vote does not really count. That evidence suggests that all the extra votes were cast by enraged but powerless voters. It does not suggest a conspiracy to defraud unless you also assume that the conspiracy was designed to be ineffectual.
Your claim that what I do is “repeat garbage from mainstream media.” is intriguing …
Up to now I have found very little in the MSM that supports what I have said.
But on your advice I looked around and found:
An article showing concrete evidence that Trump substantially under-performed other Republicans on the ballot
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/17/trumps-presidency-republicans-elections-visual-guide
In other words Trump lost because old-school Republicans turned against him.
The evidence the guardian provides is real and far more compelling than mine.
Their conclusion from looking at the evidence:

This is why Trump lost the election, but why Republicans gained seats in the House.

The rest of the MSM articulated “isn’t it strange that the whole nation turned more red in 2020 except for the presidency?” The MSM hasn’t a clue why that happened or do they not want you to know why…

Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 23:44 utc | 321

Evidence: his arse. So far, he shown us none. Sidenote, I sat in electoral commission counting votes (not in USA, but the process was similar enough) several times and I just roll my eyes at clowns mentioning sTeALiNg every time they do it because unlike in their imagination, it’s nearly impossible in practice.
You’d need to convince 10-12 people watching each other (plus public, media and observers around) to do serious crime, all on very tight time schedule (because said commissions work under huge stress racing the clock) and despite the fact 30 to 50% of members of said commission are likely strong supporters of candidate you’re trying to rob – great, we’re entering the unhinged conspiracy theory grounds already.
But let’s suppose you somehow manage to pull that off and no one talks – great, but said commission only has ~2000 votes to count and you changed at best 100-200 of these to not make it blatantly obvious. Then you have to repeat this process only 100000 more times, with no one talking, and then you noticeably change the amount of support in ONE state – hello, anybody home? If you have that loyal massive army doing crimes on command and no one talking, you really don’t need to steal elections anymore because at that point this comic book minion horde is more than enough to take over the state directly. Logic, what’s that?
And as a sidenote, Trumpo already has neocon heading his transition, Pompeo, another rabid neocon is said to be running for Pentagon, and arch protectionist Robert Lighthizer will soon run US trade policy, according to FT. Plus talk about tariffs etc. It’s rabid economic warfare on Russia 2.0 from 2021, only this time directed at China. If you think inflation, energy prices, and wage fallout was bad, trying to mess with China will be 20x worse. I guess then triumphant clown crowd will shut up just as quick as Millei one did when he crashed Argentine into the ground making it worse off than Venezuela of all things in just 3 months despite no sanctions trying to sink it? And when whoever runs for Rs in 2028 will get as strong backlash whacking as in 2020, there will be again no self reflection but more sTeAL inanity?

Posted by: Mr Vx | Nov 9 2024 0:11 utc | 322

Posted by: Mr Vx | Nov 9 2024 0:11 utc | 322 “I guess then triumphant clown crowd will shut up just as quick as Millei one did when he crashed Argentine into the ground making it worse off than Venezuela of all things in just 3 months despite no sanctions trying to sink it?” I fear this underestimates the Trumpers: True faith can move mountains of evidence. It is not clear that any significant numbers of MoA commenters are even interested in Argentina, much less accept that he has damaged Argentina. Remember that most will deny other presidents agency in anything, not even foreign affairs, while simultaneously attributing the alleged good times before Covid to Trump, personally!
Posted by: jinn | Nov 8 2024 16:07 utc | 307 “There is one and only one explanation for the 81 million votes Biden got in 2020 – a huge number of voters wanted to fire Trump. That’s not a good look on a candidate who is hyped as being popular and so Trump and his supporters cling to the fantasy that the 81 million that voted against Trump are not real or legitimate and can’t except the reality.” True I think. I would add that Trump got fewer votes this round than in 2020. This is likely due to decreased turnout overall (I confess I did not expect this) but it still does not show Trump to be the popular choice.
Personally, I am in favor of bourgeois democracy until it gets replaced by socialist democracy (no, not imminent.) Therefore I affirm the true mandate is conferred when a candidate actually gets a majority of the electorate, particularly when said candidate runs on a real platform where people don’t have to routinely dismiss this or that shameful speech by just pretending he didn’t mean it, is just being an asshole again. That brings me to a speculation, that much of the Trump is the overwhelming choice of a nation of worshipful Trumpers is to lay the way for justifying this or that atrocity by Trump on the grounds He is the Will of the People Incarnated in (Semi-?)Divine form. Maybe they’re hoping Trump get bloody while putting millions of “immigrants” into concentration camps and executing PMC/Deep State/woke figures they want to see dead?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 9 2024 1:00 utc | 323

Mr Vx | Nov 8 2024 23:19 utc | 320
“The graph above is kind of hilarious”
then the graph goes:
69-66-66-81-67
So what? lol (btw. the 69 coz Obama after Bush was the big hope for everyone to bring change,
as I said before, a personality everyone believes in, is the only reason to mobilize new voters in the millions)
jinn | Nov 8 2024 23:44 utc | 321
“An article showing concrete evidence that Trump substantially under-performed other Republicans on the ballot”
Yes, that’s what the article shows, lol.
But it does not show, why 25%+ voters than the usual rate for a DEM president voted for Biden.
(and neither that REPs shifted to DEM, or Trump lost coz REPs didn’t like him anymore)

Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 9 2024 1:48 utc | 324

But it does not show, why 25%+ voters than the usual rate for a DEM president voted for Biden.
(and neither that REPs shifted to DEM, or Trump lost coz REPs didn’t like him anymore)
Posted by: cortomaltese | Nov 9 2024 1:48 utc | 324
It doesn’t talk about that because the article is not about your delusions its about why Trump lost in 2020.
The huge increase in Dem voters was mostly in places where it made no difference and has nothing to do with Trump losing. In some places Biden got more than 100% more votes.
If you compare Cook county you will find that Biden got 1.7 million votes in 2020 and Harris got only 600K, but so what? In Los Angeles Biden got more than 1 million votes more than Harris. Millions of extra votes in places where they make no difference to the outcome are not evidence of a stolen election.
The large difference in Biden and Harris votes was almost entirely in states where it didn’t make any difference.
The huge Dem vote in 2020 was a lot of anger at the sitting president that made no difference in who won. In 2024 there was no point for many of those voters because they know their vote makes no difference.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 9 2024 4:20 utc | 325

The geopolitical analysis on this blog is always top-notch, but I think when it comes to the author’s views on trans people/children, you don’t really know what you’re talking about. I get the sense of an analysis based on assumptions made without the benefit of supporting facts. It’s a shame.

Posted by: gibbon | Nov 9 2024 5:35 utc | 326

Dennis Kucinich, in RT’s current edition of “Going underground”, talks about the task Trump is facing: End the two wars, see to it that US money can be spent on domestic issues. Concerning the wars, he places his hope on Trump’s negotiation skills.
https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/607334-biden-harris-administration-ww3-risk/

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 9 2024 10:26 utc | 327

Dennis Kucinich, in RT’s current edition of “Going underground”, talks about the task Trump is facing: End the two wars, see to it that US money can be spent on domestic issues. Concerning the wars, he places his hope on Trump’s negotiation skills.
http://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/607334-biden-harris-administration-ww3-risk/
Must prefix the link with https:// to have it work.

Posted by: grunzt | Nov 9 2024 10:28 utc | 328

But, have you Heard kamala? She was the worst candidate ever, the word salads she gave as speeches made working class people who always are the common sensei people to think that she was not the best for the position.

Posted by: Carmen L | Nov 9 2024 17:15 utc | 329

Keep a very close eye on Elon Musk,
Musk made Trump change his mind.
Musk has been quietly acquiring money-transmitter licenses across the U.S. and has said it plans to “revolutionize” the payments system.
You don’t quietly buy money-transmitter licenses across the U.S if it is a no go. You buy them after bribing who you want to win the election on the agreement you get the green light of the candidate you bought wins. Musk will announce what all this means in due course now Trump has won.
Musk Plans To Replace PayPal, Visa And smaller Banks Quietly.BlackRock and Jamie Dimond is On board.
Art of the deal. Trump gets paid huge sums and those who paid the huge sums can basically do what they want.
The Con:
You sell a USD stable coin that does not pay interest, take the USD you receive for the coin and invest it dollar for dollar in US govt bonds and collect the interest on the bonds for yourself….
So if musk sold $1B of his new coins and put that $1B in 10 yr treasuries right now you get 4.4 % or $44M every year for ten years just to operate a blockchain system…
For some reason I can’t post the links that show the history of all this . But easily found on the internet business pages like Fobes, Bloomberg and Yahoo finance. It is all there from a few months back.
Is this good for the cyber coin XRP that is designed to help move money ?

Posted by: Bod Anderson | Nov 9 2024 19:17 utc | 330

As I remember it, Trump’s administration was just awash in bullshit right from the beginning the last time he was President too.
I’m not sure which is worse, if he has a plan, or if he doesn’t?

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 9 2024 19:31 utc | 331

Posted by: gibbon | Nov 9 2024 5:35 utc | 326
What kind of analysis of mental illness do you expect?

Posted by: N | Nov 9 2024 19:36 utc | 332

Nothing explains this except the fact that there were million of fraudulent mail in ballots manufactured by the Pelosi/Obama group
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 8 2024 22:30 utc | 317
That’s way too much work and way too easy to get caught. The answer is my simpler: ballot harvesting operations (which are legal in some states and illegal in others) are MUCH easier to conduct when you know everyone got (or can get) a mail-in ballot.

Posted by: N | Nov 9 2024 19:38 utc | 333

I expect “team Trump” will consist of several token “heroes” like Kennedy, Paul and Musk, who will be held up as the promise of “hope and change”, and a whole slew of DS creatures that will carry on the Uniparty ways in the shadows, negating any “hero” actions.
TPTB and their DS are not going to be defeated by the plebes voting, ever.
I could be wrong, but the last dozen ‘elections’ suggest I am not.
Again, “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal”

Posted by: saner | Nov 9 2024 20:32 utc | 334

re Bod Anderson | Nov 9 2024 19:17 utc | 330
Derek Henry’s / Echo Chamber’s / Sun of Alabama’s new nick?

Posted by: malenkov | Nov 9 2024 21:44 utc | 335

To all the concern trolls and secret TDS’ers out there trying to say Trump learned nothing from 2016:
Trump just announced that neither Pompeo nor Nikki Haley will be part of this administration.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 10 2024 0:53 utc | 336

Posted by: jinn | Nov 9 2024 4:20 utc | 325
You should check out Rich Baris, The People’s pundit, he’s a professional pollster who uses detailed county voting histories to spot trends and make highly accurate predictions. You might find the official narrative you defend is actually rather a tattered and threadbare version of the truth.

Posted by: Milites | Nov 10 2024 1:59 utc | 337

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 10 2024 0:53 utc | 336
I think it will be a never-ending source of amusement watching the professional commentators frustration with Trump, as he refuses to act the way they said he would, but insists on stubbornly doing what he said he would do.

Posted by: Milites | Nov 10 2024 2:13 utc | 338

One of the things ‘doing what he said he would do’ is just telling Nazinyahu ‘do what you need to do’. Gee, why people might be frustrated with more genocide? One that Trumpo greatly helped starting by giving that scum approval to illegally annex Jerusalem and Golan then recognizing it? And better pray he won’t follow that with attacks on Iran and trade war with China (another two things he announced) because western crash from fighting Russia will be nothing compared to that, and Chinese spent last 4 years learning from Russian example how to minimize western impact and maximize their response unlike idiots in charge of NATO suicide pact.
And while he said no to Pompeo, he still praised that criminal scum in his tweet instead of denouncing him (or better yet, announcing he will stand trial for his crimes), Hook (another war criminal neocon) is still part of his team, and the tweet said nothing about not taking more warmongering neocons aboard. I’d really like to be wrong, but seeing during first term he fired scum only to replace it with even bigger scum (Bolton anyone?) I won’t be holding my breath…

Posted by: Mr Vx | Nov 10 2024 11:48 utc | 339

You should check out Rich Baris, The People’s pundit, he’s a professional pollster who uses detailed county voting histories to spot trends and make highly accurate predictions. You might find the official narrative you defend is actually rather a tattered and threadbare version of the truth.
Posted by: Milites | Nov 10 2024 1:59 utc | 337
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Why would I need to listen to a professional talking head? I predicted the winner myself accurately.
And anyway, what do predictions have to do with anything?
The flawed claim that people are making is that the election was stolen in 2020 by a flood of Dem votes.
The problem is that there is zero evidence to support that claim.
Trump won in 2016 because he won Georgia Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Then in 2020 Trump lost GA PA an WI and then in 2024 he won those 3 states again.
What many people do not understand is that the presidential election is not a popularity contest. In the last 3 elections its a contest where a slim margin in 3 states decides the election. A very small number of voters decide the election. For the vast majority of US voters their vote is superfluous to who wins the election.
Squawking about millions of Dem votes in 2020 stealing the election is just plain silly. You can’t steal an election by stuffing ballot boxes with superfluous votes in states where those extra votes won’t change the outcome.
Trumps loss in 2020 was because he was short about 100k votes in the 3 states that decided the election.
In 2024 Trump had a surplus of about 300k in those states. The Dem voting totals in those 3 states states did not change from 2020 to 2024. What changed enough to give Trump a win was only the Rep votes. Those are facts that you could verify for yourself if you cared at all about facts. Any explanation of Trumps loss in 2020 that is based on a huge increase in Dem votes compared to 2024 is a counterfactual explanation. There was no difference in the Dem votes in the 3 states that decided the election. Whatever happened with Dem votes in the blue regions of the other states had nothing to do with Trump’s loss in 2020.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 10 2024 15:11 utc | 340

If it can be proved that the 2020 election was stolen, is there a way to get a court to rule that the 4 years of the Biden/Harris administration have been illegitimate?

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 10 2024 17:22 utc | 341

A friend writes:
“turned on MSNBC after the election results came in and this, verbatim, was the commentary I heard: “This really was a historic, flawlessly run campaign. She had Queen Latifah [who] never endorses anyone! She had every prominent celebrity voice, she had the Taylor Swifties, she had the Beyhive. You could not run a better campaign in that short period of time.””
Inexplicable.
If you haven’t read “Society of Spectacle” by Guy Debord, now is the time. Tiny tiny tiny little book.

Posted by: JAB | Nov 10 2024 18:32 utc | 342

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