Election 2024 - Random Thoughts
Some random thoughts on Trump's reelection.
Trump's win in 2024 does not prove that the 2020 election was stolen by Democrats but it raises a new stink about the issue.
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When Biden was pushed out of the race there were calls among Democrats not to rush a choice, but to hold full-fledged primaries. Barack Obama had called for it. But Nancy Pelosi and the Clinton clan kept pushing for Harris. As a vacuous and unlikable person - carrying all the baggage of the Biden administration - she was the most likely to lose.
This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens.
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To send Bill Clinton to Michigan to justify the mass killing of Palestinians was not a good idea. The 2024 result in Dearborn, Michigan, a 90% Muslim area that Biden had won with 88% of the vote:
- Trump: 46.8%
- Harris: 27.68%
- Stein: 22.11%
The Democrats will blame various groups - Muslim, progressives, youths - who's opinions and desires they had ignored, for their loss. And of course Russia.
Trump won the working class:
Jeff Stein @JStein_WaPo - 14:27 UTC · Nov 6, 2024Staggering class realignment/shift in working class
Harris lost DESPITE major shift of affluent voters her way2020: Trump wins voters over $100K, 54-52
2024: *Harris* wins voters over $100K, 54-452020: Biden wins voters $50K-$100K, 57-42
2024: *Trump* w/ voters $50K-$100K, 49-472020: Biden wins voters under $50K, 55-45
2024: Trump massive improvement w/ voters under $50K, 49-48
Harris had more billionaires on her side:
The Billionaire-ification of the U.S. Election
For the 2024 election, a staggering $15.9 billion has been spent on ads and campaigning by both Democrats and Republicans, making it the most expensive election in history; in just one week, nearly $1 billion has been poured into political ads.
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Eighteen percent of all political ad funding has come straight from the pockets of a tiny handful of America’s mega-rich. In fact, according to USA Today, Harris has 83 billionaires supporting her—making up 6% of her campaign funds, according to Al Jazeera—while 52 are backing Trump, but they’re extremely generous donors, making up 34% of his campaign fund.In other words: the country’s wealthiest are bankrolling the election, wielding political power and influence like never before. Not only is this bad news for democracy, it’s catastrophic for the planet.
Trump is unlikely to have a full term. J.D. Vance will become president. He is the future of the Republican party.
Posted by b on November 6, 2024 at 17:49 UTC | Permalink
next page »A lot of people prioritize deviancy. Even if the Democrats wanted a total identity shift, the working class is not going to suddenly swing back, nor should they. By the same token, if you remove DEI as a program the Democrats lose the largest single base they still have. Aside from the millions of young activists who have to be deprogrammed.
And as for Vance being the future, I doubt he's even the present. Ask Mike Pence what happens to VPs who get crosswise with Trump. The VP is much less popular than his boss is, so I don't think Vance will make that mistake.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 6 2024 18:00 utc | 2
The CIA tried to assassinate Castro 638 times and failed each one, so maybe Trump still has some years ahead of him.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 18:01 utc | 3
In other words, the Deep State psychos will assassinate him.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 17:58 utc | 1
That's probably over. The DS types have failed to kill President Trump twice. He has considerable reason to retaliate now, and major backing for it. If you were a CIA sniper or even a goon who loves Ukraine too much, would you even want to be a windup toy? How much money would you need to be a lone wolf patsy against President Trump? The people who can successfully demand high dollar contracts are the ones most likely to fear being ensnared.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Nov 6 2024 18:06 utc | 4
I'm surprised the result came in as early as it did. I'm always sceptical so I wonder if Trump has worked out an arrangment with the US power bloc. Time will tell if he can settle things down in Ukraine. I'm not holding my breath for him to do anything positive in the middle east
Posted by: Chris N | Nov 6 2024 18:09 utc | 5
Exactly right about Vance. Trump is seriously unwell. Maybe he'll be our second Harding and die before spring.
This link is an excellent talk by Jeffrey Sachs. Skip ahead to about 40 minutes for his description of how things really work, and how the elites have been flirting with nuclear war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bl6_MAhg_4
Vance, Elon, and whoever else is chosen to 'run' things don't run things at all. They're likely preferable as clowns that will distract from the continued disassembly of the US specifically and the West in general.
Israel will be razed to the ground and the Palestinian resistance will be victorious.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 7
Chris N You are trying to delegitimize Trump and it is not working
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 8
maybe a pickup truck popemobile:
https://jalopnik.com/the-popes-humble-pickup-truck-is-a-very-practical-popem-1838641245
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 18:18 utc | 9
Trump's win in 2024 does not prove that the 2020 election was stolen by Democrats but it raises a new stink about the issue.Well, I have been convinced since 2020 it was stolen. Back then I saw a statistician presenting the statistical evidence that it was manipulation. When I linked to that highly factual presentation in a local MSM controlled forum I was thrown out. It is a repeated pattern that when you provide hard facts contrary to the MSM agenda, you get cancelled. Lying or trolling is not a problem in such places, but hard evidence will get you cancelled in MSM circles.
The top figure in this post is an example of such evidence. There is no way what happened in 2020 was legitimate.
This time it looks less manipulated, and that is a good thing. I reserve the right to wait and see what Trump can do, but I suspect not very much. My wish-list is
- Just leave Ukraine and let Russia take care of it
- End the NATO farce
- Tell Netanyahu to go away
- Close US bases in West Asia and Europe
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 6 2024 18:18 utc | 10
"Harris had more billionaires on her side" and "Trump won the working class" ROFLOL. So the ones that matter like the Adelsons (Miriam & Sheldon) on who's command Trump "gave away" the Syrian Golan as well as acknowledging Jerusalem as the Zionazi capital don't matter? I wonder who ever doubted Trump would win this election circus. As long as he plays his act well, he won't be put down.
Posted by: xor | Nov 6 2024 18:21 utc | 11
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 8
I preferred Trump over Harris and the Dems. I just hope he's learned from what happened during his first term. There's a rumour that he'll appoint Pompeo to his cabinet - I hope that's nonsense.
Remember that his biggest donor is Miriam Adelson - I'm concerned as what he might do to appease her and the Zionist base
Posted by: Chris N | Nov 6 2024 18:25 utc | 12
Not so politically correct to remark, but perhaps the lawfare indictments were the Dems' biggest fiasco.
Threatening Trump with jail may have unconsciously pushed a lot of black men to identify with Trump;
Both in an often unfair fight with "the man".
Posted by: Webej | Nov 6 2024 18:25 utc | 13
xor the opposite
the zionists think they benefit if Trump is destroyed hence the impeachments, court cases and assasination attempts.
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 18:26 utc | 14
Re: Why didn't they repeat the 2020 steal to the tune of 10m votes?
c1ue | Nov 6 2024 17:59 utc | 273
The difference this time is very simple: the Trump team of 150+ lawyers ensuring there would be no unopposed Democrat lawfare shenanigans.
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I can tell from your detailed posts (polling, voting stats, etc) that you are more of a technical political maven. My question raises a broader issue: Why didn't the deep state simply force through the necessary 10m votes as before, regardless of it being recorded, disputed, interrupted in order to demonstrate their complete power and control? (Exactly how 2020 went down.)
Answer: Because we lost in Ukraine. OK, I can hear the chorus already: what does that have to do with anything? Simple - the MIC went along in 2020 (violating every conceivable oath and duty) because a sufficient number were in favor of the war. However, now that we've lost, there was significant risk that prosecutable treason and civil war might have resulted if the military had played the same game as before.
So, the vote was allowed to proceed in as fair means as possible, and now we have the results. To recap, Putin at the end of the day is - and will be - remembered as one of the greatest political leaders since at least Washington & Napoleon. It is he - not Trump - who has caused the global re-alignment. Trump was allowed to win in order to complete the post-imperial project.
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 18:26 utc | 15
Norwegian @10: When I linked to that highly factual presentation in a local MSM controlled forum I was thrown out."
Yes, access to the eyes and ears of the public was strictly controlled back then, but the Establishment doesn't have such control over TwitterX since Musk took over.
I'm not saying nobody gets banned from TwitterX for challenging Establishment orthodoxy anymore (I'm still banned, after all), but the Establishment cannot count on being able to silence critics, where it used to be as easy as a phone call or email..
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 18:27 utc | 16
One of the reasons for the turn to what is called right-wing populism in the US, Germany and elsewhere is the despicable authoritarian behaviour of what is called the left during COVID. Now RFK Jr. may become Trump's health czar. Any thoughts, b?
Posted by: Cherrycoke | Nov 6 2024 18:27 utc | 17
markw
This is illogical.
Also Putin is on par with but not surpassing Bismark
Posted by: south | Nov 6 2024 18:30 utc | 18
Well, b, to your comment that Vance will become president — I consulted the Daily Mail. Two articles to consider on this topic, or two I’d like to put forward for consideration on the subject:
One: Exclusive The signs Ivanka Trump has fallen from ‘First Lady’ status, according to body language expert
Excerpt
“Ivanka, dressed in a glamorous blue velvet pantsuit, joined her entire family last night as her dad gave a victory speech, accepting his win in the race for the 47th President of The United States.
As her husband, Jared, stood by her side, the two took their place on stage next to Trump's Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife, Usha, standing towards the end, to her father's right side.”
And second, this was breaking news earlier today:
Hoboken Council President Jen Giattino dies suddenly at 53
Excerpt
“Giattino had won re-election repeatedly, most recently securing a two-thirds majority in 2023 despite facing multiple challengers.
Local leaders praised her responsiveness to constituents and her genuine enthusiasm for connecting with voters.”
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 6 2024 18:32 utc | 19
"When I linked to that highly factual presentation in a local MSM controlled forum I was thrown out. It is a repeated pattern that when you provide hard facts contrary to the MSM agenda, you get cancelled. Lying or trolling is not a problem in such places, but hard evidence will get you cancelled in MSM circles."
You mean like the host here did in 2020 when people questioned the covid narrative, and that is what it was, a narrative with a heap of murder by the healthcare industry. The host ready to admit he was 100% wrong on that account? Apologizing would be a good start to healing the divide, but people would rather go to their grave not doing it.
Posted by: Mr. House | Nov 6 2024 18:36 utc | 20
It was like watching an election in Mordor, between the Witch-Queen of Angmar and Sauron. Once the Ring of Power is made anew in the great volcano of BRICS, Sauron will fade away into a great burp of flatulence in the west, while the Witch-Queen of Angmar will once again become a pile of old, lying, bones. Unfortunately the 'Garden' of Hobbit Scholz will also fade into insignificance, while Elron Putin will reign for thousands of years in the Elf-realm of Russia.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 18:38 utc | 21
» raises a new stink about the issue «
Must say that on seeing the popular vote numbers, my reaction was the same.
How can anyone square that there was such disproportional enthusiasm for basement-dwelling Biden, VAX & DIE dictator par excellence.
Remains amazing how Biden's corruption, continual confabulation, perversion & rape charges, and unhinged mental state (visible to all even preceding his coronation) just doesn't matter to the Democrat faithful. With Harris, even more so -- Doesn't talk to the media; only utters inane verbiage lacking any meaning; the winner in DIE contests but with no serious election support ever; even more a puppet of unseen forces than ole Joe. How can anybody vote for this, unless they've got blind black-woman-abortion on the mind. [The President has no say about abortion law]
Posted by: Webej | Nov 6 2024 18:41 utc | 22
In other words: the country’s wealthiest are bankrolling the election, wielding political power and influence like never before. Not only is this bad news for democracy, it’s catastrophic for the planet.
I know you are in Germany b, but when has any election produced a government that was not being bankrolled and influenced by the wealthy, the upper class, the System Pigs.......at the expense of the electorate?
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 6 2024 18:43 utc | 23
"The CIA tried to assassinate Castro 638 times and failed each one, so maybe Trump still has some years ahead of him"
@William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 18:01 utc | 3
While I anticipate that this quote is made with an aim to be ironic I have seen info about the number of attempts for assassination of Castro being about six rather than 600
But in my view the most likely truth probably is NONE.
That since the US elites, including the CIA, were involved in putting Castro in power. Despite expectations from leftists Castro was clearly helped by the side leftists expect to be the enemies of communism.
Three US ambassadors confirmed under oath that the US helped Castro to take Cuba.
20 years later the US repeated such an enterprise with Nicaragua. Something also completely buried by otherwise sharp-eyed critics of 'the capitalists'
People just dont want to know complicated scenario's where the empire is creating a dependent opposition.
There is enough evidence that the USSR was bribed by a generous trade deal with the US in 1972. But what about 1958 and Castro?
Perhaps Sputnik I is the answer to that. That the US had inferior rocket technology and the USSR could in principle cause the US great harm.
But what really happened when the US became scared of the launch of Sputnik I?
Did they somehow preempt a military threat by something they did and later regretted it and therefor compensated the USSR by giving Cuba to communism?
I dont know but the Kyshtym nuclear accident in a weapons plutonium reactor could at least theoretically be evidence for that hypothesis. It happened just five days before the launch of Sputnik I.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 6 2024 18:43 utc | 24
"Trump is unlikely to have a full term. J.D. Vance will become president. He is the future of the Republican party."
Vance wasn't chosen, like Harris, as an insurance policy. He was chosen as a successor. I was skeptical of the choice at first, but it became apparent that Trump chose well.
Posted by: ian | Nov 6 2024 18:45 utc | 25
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 6 2024 18:43 utc | 24
Since when were the words of "three US ambassadors" worthy of any kind of credibility?
Some people will believe anything - even "three impossible things before breakfast".
A 'nothing-burger'.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 18:47 utc | 26
@Mr. House | Nov 6 2024 18:36 utc | 20
You have a point. I was one of the clearest on that issue from the very first days. But it is our hosts decision alone how to handle the issue now.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 6 2024 18:47 utc | 27
“{…} This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens.”
Not a fan of Hollywood movies? Monsters never die.
Posted by: John Perry | Nov 6 2024 18:51 utc | 28
I am also firmly of the opinion that the 2020 election was stolen.
I was watching the results from the UK early in the morning = middle of the night in the USA. Trump was winning by a small but significant margin in one of the swing states (I forget which), and Biden suddenly came through with a load of votes and won. That seemed rather suspicious.
Then the MSM confirmed this, by clamping down and not investigating any of the claims: "anyone who suggests electoral irregularities is a loony." When they all trumpet the same message, it shows what they want to hide.
Posted by: JulianJ | Nov 6 2024 18:52 utc | 29
B, please correct your chart, it’s missing 10 million votes (that will be more or less evenly split between the two candidates. (I presented the corrected rounded numbers in a previous thread)
On a different note, as I also mentioned , Elon’s #toobigtorig worked (and dems were scared from 2 weeks ago threatening musk and all)
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 6 2024 18:52 utc | 30
Mentioning the POPE:
In a meeting at the Vatican in Rome, Alon Kaminer, a wounded Israeli soldier currently recovering at Sheba, along with Sheba Medical Center’s Director General Prof, Yitshak Kreiss, Yoel Har-Even, Director of Sheba Global, had a private audience with Pope Francis on Wednesday morning.
The encounter was arranged following a recent visit by a Vatican official to Sheba, during which he met with civilians and soldiers injured in the ongoing conflict, including Kaminer.
Pope Francis extended his blessings to Kaminer during their meeting in Rome, expressing solidarity and compassion.
Not so fond of Palestinians
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-826948
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Nov 6 2024 19:02 utc | 31
Trump will be a Trojan Horse, bringing many of the things he promised. What a coup!
Critics of Izzy to be arrested and or deported.
Trump says this criticism will not be accepted. Everyone must love Izzy or else.
Biometric ID is for everyone, not just immigrants.
The "working class" seems to think it won't be subjected to the new draconian ID requirements. (Even as it is happening now).
CBDC. He will usher it in and the MAGA's will lap it up.
It's gonna be a "New World Order".
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 6 2024 19:03 utc | 32
"Trump is unlikely to have a full term. J.D. Vance will become president. He is the future of the Republican party."
Yes, that is my thinking.
How does power work in the US??? Here is my thought for today.... TUS is run by a consortium of Mafia's of which the most powerful is the financial class (FC). In 2020 some group including the CIA pitched a bid to the consortium; they would bring down Russia and sell its assets to the US oligarchy. The FC consented to let them have a go. The FC gave them a good shot, but a few months ago concluded that it had been a disaster and a line had to be drawn. Trump did a deal; he would not go after the Mafia if they let him try out his ideas (maybe some of the more vicious low level mafiosi that have been attacking him may be delt with).
What do you guys think?
Posted by: Tim | Nov 6 2024 19:06 utc | 33
> This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens.
I don't think so. Woke is a derivative of SJW (social justice warriors), and the metamorphosis was done during Trump's first term. Furthermore, the USA's first uprising in ages also happened in Trump's first term, run by people who are very close to 'Woke'. In fact, CHAZ had plenty of Woke speakers and members, to the point when they were asking for help on Twitter, they specifically asked for meat-substitutes and not meat.
Posted by: rert | Nov 6 2024 19:06 utc | 34
The chart would be correct if it included all those eligible to vote thus showing the number of those who didn't to their basic civil duty and vote. One of the main reasons the Outlaw US Empire is ruled by an Oligarchy is because too many citizens decline to perform the duties of citizen, which go far beyond voting. IMO, that's the primary reason for the USA's dysfunctionality, and it's been ongoing since 1783.
Defeat in Ukraine and the stupendous Palestinian offensive changed the elite consensus in favour of Trump.
Posted by: L0ngTme | Nov 6 2024 19:07 utc | 36
I strongly disagree about 2020 not being a clear theft based on the sheer number of excess ballots.
It’s such an outlier it indicates, imo, obvious fraud.
In fact as a statistical matter it seems pretty close to proof that the ‘fortification’ went beyond getting out the vote to double or triple counting of Democrat ballots.
Posted by: Jim C | Nov 6 2024 19:13 utc | 37
To send Bill Clinton to Michigan to justify the mass killing of Palestinians was not a good idea.
Posted by b on November 6, 2024 at 17:49 UTC | Permalink
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To allow Clinton to open his mouth was stupid. It is not as if his interests align with "his" party.
He should be sent to Haiti where he could be better used.
A moment of truth escaped and Dearborn is better for it.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 19:16 utc | 38
Great analysis b,
"This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens."
No chance of that, they have outsourced monetary and economic policy to a bunch of unelected technocrats. Identity politics is all the liberals have left to play about with.
"In other words: the country’s wealthiest are bankrolling the election, wielding political power and influence like never before. Not only is this bad news for democracy, it’s catastrophic for the planet."
Just tax them all at 90%. So they never have the funds to interfere. Just like the old days when I was growing up. That will reduce the amount of treasuries they all hold ( national debt )
Then Implement a rule, that if you donate to a party you have to give double to their opponents.
But we already know what's going to happen
Here:
https://stephaniekelton.substack.com/p/flipping-the-script
So they have funds to battle it out again in 4 years time.
Here's the kicker: it would be so easy to do.
Over time, the flow accumulated deficits pile up into a stock of safe assets issued by the U.S. Treasury—government securities known as T-bills, notes, and bonds. The stockpile of Treasuries is, colloquially referred to as “the national debt,” an orwellian way to refer to the funds held in these government savings accounts.
Everybody knows, that money eventually, overtime, flows into profits. Becomes and transforms into this massive " stock " of reserves or treasuries in the system.
HERE:
https://www.crisesnotes.com/the-night-they-reread-pozsar-in-his-absence/
Therefore, taxes and rates on households and small companies should be small. Some done away with altogether as they don't fund the government anyway.
Then taxed at 90% once it ends up in this " stock " That would solve a lot of problems.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 6 2024 19:17 utc | 39
B: "This is, hopefully, the end of wokeism and DEI nonsense. And of 'trans' children and teens."
I believe that this will be the case, but unfortunately not over night. It will take some time... months... years...
Posted by: NoName | Nov 6 2024 19:23 utc | 40
So...2016, 2020, 2024
Trump 62M 74M 76M
Dem 65M 81M 71M
let's check with the messiah included 2008, 2014, 2016, 2020, 2024
Rep+trump 60M 66M 62M 74M 76M
Obama+dem 70M 61M 65M 81M 71M
(aprox)
What's the outlier? By hook or by crook...
The least capable or charismatic dem candidates in decades got more than obama...
As I mentioned
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 6 2024 19:26 utc | 41
@Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 18:47 utc | 26
Why would they swear on such a thesis during a senate hearing. What would they gain careerwise do you suggest?
I guess you may be illustrating a typical example of the kind of ideologically based incredulity that blinds so many wellmeaning leftists, that they actually dont like facts.
This guarantees that the imperial doublefaced modes of operation will have more successes. Again and again, the world of leftists being outmaneuvered every time and the evil oligarchic collective scoring unhindered by other than ideologically right-thinking skepticism.
That is what characterises a religion, not a rational analysis. Leftism often constitutes a religion.
But it doesnt have to be that way.
Break out of the illusion. Start absorbing facts even when you dont like what you find.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 6 2024 19:29 utc | 42
No, the whole "gender affirming care" for toddlers fad must continue! Middle class parents must continue to spay/neuter their children. It's good for the environment and spay/neutered children are less likely to spray on the rug or make obnoxious noises late at night. Desexed children can live longer and healthier lives and are less likely to stray far from home or get into fights with feral children. It is good, responsible middle class parenting to spay/neuter your children.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 19:33 utc | 43
American Elections have always had dirty fingers working the ballets. Sometimes a bit subtly, sometimes in your face.
BUT in 2020, 18 MILLION more votes supposedly were cast than now in 2024. Biden, a geriatric version of PeeWee Herman, that great Orator, a Principled Leader, a charisma like no other, got 81 MILLION votes, more than any other President, ever, including Obama, Clinton or Reagan.
Anyone with eyes or ears could see the steal, as polling stations were "temporarily" shut down, so the Dem(ented) party could count the current vote totals so they could make up enough ballets to exceed the Trump totals.
Another in-your-face clue was "Fox Election Desk declares Arizona for Biden" when no one else followed suit until 7 hours later. That move by Fox was to signal that Murdochs would NOT be asking any impertinent questions about the stench in the American living room. Someone unloading on your coffee table ought to create a discussion. Yet...silence.
And the icing on the cake was the set up of the Unarmed Coup (J6) combined with the complete crushing of anyone asking questions. Even the pipe bomb planted by a D.C. Agency, as they pointed the finger at "one of the American Hitler's brownshirts." No questions, no curiosity. Sure, buddy, 2020, another pristine expression of American democracy and decency. Not.
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 6 2024 19:36 utc | 44
Ultimately, operational political conversations miss the real paradigm shift: missles.
The USA committed over $35T to an air based weapons platform that require both carriers and land bases. Unfortunately, missle technology, both offensive of every distance, type & kind, along with similar levels of AD, has rendered those 'investment' decisions outright strategic failures.
It is these technology changes that has produced the resulting losses in not one, not two, but three separate and critical theaters of war. So now the bell tolls loudly for the USA; but to what is this particular bell directed? The mighty US dollar, no longer providing our carte blanche get of jail card.
This is what Trump has to face: He needs to deal with the global financial markets and the unpayable debt overhang, restructure the domestic economy and redirect the MIC towards an entirely new generation of weapons systems.
Tall order, but in situations like this (of which he has lots of experience), you either initiate BK yourself or lose control to external events. I think the DoD understood this as well, and decided not to acquiesce another 2020 type of steal.
If I am right, and I think I am, then it suggests massive changes are coming. Default, devaluation and restructing; contraction and retrenchment of the imperial footprint. A recognition of the lost wars and a turn inward to consider new types of platforms.
In many ways, we've already seen this movie before: the USA's 20+ year redemption arc following that of Russia's which began with Putin in the 90s.
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 19:37 utc | 45
I know it's a bit OT for the post itself, but as far as random thoughts go...
Biden and minutemen and other old farts
This could describe the elections as well, plan failed, vehicle aborted
"BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — An unarmed missile test was scheduled to launch out of the Vandenberg Space Force Base early Wednesday morning but it was terminated due to an anomaly.
The mission was “safely terminated” by Space Launch Delta 30 at 12:06 a.m., according to officials.
SpaceX Falcon 9 launch puts more Starlink satellites into orbit
Officials say, “An anomaly is an unexpected event during a test.”
Anomalies can arise at any time and because of that careful analysis is needed to identify the cause.
A Launch Analysis Group is investigating the cause of the incident.
The unarmed missile test, also known as a Minuteman III test launch, was scheduled to demonstrate the “readiness of U.S. nuclear forces,” according to the Air Force Global Strike Command."
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 6 2024 19:39 utc | 46
Hollywood writes the screenplay before they cast the actors.
TPTB chose Disposable Joe to front some risky choices that could go poorly and did. Joe, whose son was involved in Ukraine for years, was ready-made for the role. Guaranteed to be old to subpoena let alone prosecute. Moving Trump out of the role for 4 years saved his image. The regime can attribute all failures to Joe and “move on”.
For this next term, Trump is the “new” face of the franchise. The tough guy was run out of town but returned to kick ass. As with Obama and also Trump’s first term, it reinvigorates the masses. Gives us hope. At the very least, it’s a palpable relief. Even I feel “relieved” emotionally, even though my brain tells me not to expect anything good.
The choices the D’s made suggest to me a high likelihood they threw the race to make way for Trump. He trailed Desantis by a mile until the phony prosecutions started. They denied Joe was senile up until the moment they replaced him an obvious moron.
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 6 2024 19:40 utc | 47
petergrfstrm @24
That's some strange brew your imbibing. I don't think that shit is served at this bar.
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 19:40 utc | 48
Nobody's going to assassinate Trump. The guy is fat and has a really bad diet. If he dies in office, it'll be from that. But they don't want him dead, FFS. He's better for the corporations and wealthy than even Biden is/was, and for sure he has the backing of all the pro-Israel crowd. Plus, he is the Republican wet-dream. Privatization of everything and no regulations on anything.
Posted by: teri | Nov 6 2024 19:41 utc | 49
Ultimately, operational political conversations miss the real paradigm shift: missles.
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 19:37 utc | 45
As I just posted, us missiles don't work.
Not ven in a far and in between ultra prepared test
Posted by: Newbie | Nov 6 2024 19:41 utc | 50
For once interesting talk from CNN:
I don't know who this guy is, but it's interesting to see that they let him finish speak (maybe they are in some shock ;)
Posted by: NoName | Nov 6 2024 19:44 utc | 51
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 6 2024 19:29 utc | 4
This is all essentially off-topic, but"
"In a manner that antagonized the Cuban people, the U.S. government used its influence to advance the interests of and increase the profits of the private American companies, which "dominated the island's economy". By the late 1950s, U.S. financial interests owned 90% of Cuban mines, 80% of its public utilities, 50% of its railways, 40% of its sugar production and 25% of its bank deposits—some $1 billion in total.[52] According to historian Louis A. Pérez Jr., author of the book On Becoming Cuban, "Daily life had developed into a relentless degradation, with the complicity of political leaders and public officials who operated at the behest of American interests." As a symbol of this relationship, ITT Corporation, an American-owned multinational telephone company, presented Batista with a Golden Telephone, as an "expression of gratitude" for the "excessive telephone rate increase", at least according to Senator John F. Kennedy, that Batista granted at the urging of the U.S. government.[48][non-primary source needed]
Earl E.T. Smith, former U.S. Ambassador to Cuba, testified to the U.S. Senate in 1960 that, "Until Castro, the U.S. was so overwhelmingly influential in Cuba that the American ambassador was the second most important man, sometimes even more important than the Cuban president."
OK - another US ambassador! but you can't pick and choose which ambassador to believe, and you seem to believe them all.
So (if you accept that Wikipedia can sometimes tell the truth) why would the US want to replace Batista with an unknown quantity such as Castro?
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 19:47 utc | 52
The top figure in this post is an example of such evidence. There is no way what happened in 2020 was legitimate.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 6 2024 18:18 utc | 10
You have to be both stupid and ignorant to believe that is evidence.
There is no new evidence that just came to light. Anybody who was paying attention knows that the 2020 was the largest voter turnout in over 100 years. You have to go back to when only white male landowners were allowed to vote to find elections where there was that large a voter turnout.
There was only one issue in the 2020 election 'Do you hate Trump' and 81 million voters turned out to vote in the affirmative and removed Trump from office. That is what the evidence shows. There may be as many as 10 million voters who usually vote Republican that voted against Trump in 2020 and given that Biden is a little bit to the right of Richard Nixon it wasn't that hard to mark their ballots for Biden in their effort to get rid of Trump.
What the current election shows is the deranged hatred of Trump has subsided in four years, but that doesn't mean Trump is popular. He is definitely popular with rural voters. But if 100% of all eligible voters were compelled to vote yes or no the vast majority would vote against Trump. Trump supporters vote at a rate of close 100%, while those who dislike Trump are not anywhere near as motivated to vote.
At any rate if there were 10 million phony votes in 2020 somebody would have found some evidence. The absolute absence of evidence despite millions looking for it suggests there is none.
Posted by: jinn | Nov 6 2024 19:56 utc | 53
@7 Arch
Entity
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/350343
Lebanon
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/350334
New admin would probably continue or amplify confrontation with Iran, but doesn't seem like anyone is going to wait for inauguration.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 6 2024 19:57 utc | 54
i think we should stay to facts about trump. i have read and you are imaging to much with no back up.
I see all promises will be achieved first in usa and israhell. Thats t focus. I trust and maybe will be foiled of Vance, isreal usa don't should share the same destiny. I think iran can bite usa a lot if they will punish iran. Today we should be happy that t wun. And hope for the world. Putin distanced him from t. but t he talk to people (Kim Jong-un)and suddenly t start to like them. Soo we will get a weird world described by msn but much more human controlled by t and putin and xi. But he will put 100 % customs on things he want be manufactured in usa, and that brings job.If eu put 30 % customs on china products we the consumer have to pay. If the customs is enough high the producer have to move the factory's. But few understand t here.
Posted by: Sveno | Nov 6 2024 20:09 utc | 55
@ markw | Nov 6 2024 19:37 utc | 45
Is “yield curve control” coming soon? Massive dollar devaluation? Can you share an index or asset you’re holding to try to preserve purchasing power of your savings?
How dumb is it to simply hold some mix of SPY, BTC, and SOL through the turbulence?
I guess TLT is a ticket to the poorhouse…
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 6 2024 20:11 utc | 56
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 6 2024 20:11 utc | 56
Yes, you forgot to explain what all these acronyms mean. Please take the trouble to write them out in full, so that we ignoramuses don't have to scramble around the web to find out.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 20:15 utc | 57
"Exactly right about Vance. Trump is seriously unwell. Maybe he'll be our second Harding and die before spring."
Posted by: D | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 6
You are historically incorrect- Warren Harding had two years in office, from 1921-1923-he was shot..
You are thinking of William Harry Harrison (1) who died in the spring of his term in 1841.
You are also incorrect about your ideas of Vance and Musk
1. "But before he had been in office a month, he caught a cold that developed into pneumonia. On April 4, 1841, he died — the first President to die in office — and with him died the Whig program."
From a non-American perspective : so the Juggernaut has changed drivers.
But its still the same Juggernaut, and will be using the same maps. It'll continue to crush anything in its path.
Trump may pull the plug on Ukraine, but if he does it'll only be to concentrate on someone else - Iran, North Korea, Venezuela ....
Business as usual.
Posted by: Red Star | Nov 6 2024 20:18 utc | 60
thanks b...
didn't see this new post, and shared a viewpoint on the previous one that aligns exactly with @ William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 17:58 utc | 1
and i agree with @ Norwegian | Nov 6 2024 18:18 utc | 10
the intel agencies, specifically the cia are trumps main threat..
Posted by: james | Nov 6 2024 20:18 utc | 61
- It's clear that from now on there won't be any SERIOUS elections anymore in the US. Now the US has turned into a dictatorship with dictator Trump, JD Vance or any other person. The US may continue to have the trappings of a democray (e.g. elections or a parliament) but it will be a democracy in name only. Trump wants to make every federal employee swear loyalty to Trump himself.
- This is similar to what happened in the Soviet Union and the Iraq of one Saddam Hoessein. There one had to become a member of the only party to be able to have a job in government.
Posted by: WMG | Nov 6 2024 20:20 utc | 62
Vance, Elon, and whoever else is chosen to 'run' things don't run things at all. They're likely preferable as clowns that will distract from the continued disassembly of the US specifically and the West in general.
Posted by: D | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 6
Elon is the world's richest man, which means he's got a very prestigious seat at the committee for the best interests of the American ruling class.
I wouldn't count old Vance out too quickly either. He's a clever devil. He's got this sort of Christian missionary zeal that suggests he might go rogue, ala Trump, when he feels it is an issue of principle.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Nov 6 2024 20:21 utc | 63
Can you share an index or asset you’re holding to try to preserve purchasing power of your savings?
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 6 2024 20:11 utc | 56
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I own a rural property and I'm employ an infinite food hack called farming. ;)
I don't buy very much. I have practically everything I need.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 20:21 utc | 64
Newbie | Nov 6 2024 19:26 utc | 41
2016, 2020, 2024
Trump 62M 74M 76M
Dem 65M 81M 71M
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I've posted/referred to your chart a few times - it's a great snap summary. However, the question I have is: why? Why not repeat the 2020 steal? I think the answer is related to the dog that didn't bark. Or, the reason why the Stanleys didn't join the battle @ Bosworth on behalf of Richard III.
That is, top eschelon power has recognized this particular chapter in Western Civ is closing; we lost. Now, that's not to say we can never come back, but it's time to accept the facts of the matter, make the necessary adjustments, and try again in a generation or so.
Trump is the guy who can carry out the demolition. The DoD, Wall St and other entrenched interests have signalled they are now ready for the reset by allowing the "people's will" to prevail.
How to play events going forward presents one hell of an interesting challenge.
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 20:22 utc | 65
https://youtu.be/URuMiYKi7ho?si=NMFT_smZFDq9H_0Q
Interesting UK take since starmer came to power.. met police being used by pro zionists to arrest people under terrorism 2000 act at gaza protests. Shameful and under trump will only seemingly spread to usa ,
Posted by: Hankster | Nov 6 2024 20:25 utc | 66
Trump is seriously unwell.
Posted by: D | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 6
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Wut? Trump has the constitution of a bull. Just be glad you don't have to clean his toilet.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 20:26 utc | 67
Trump might not manage to end the SMO in one day, but he managed to end the German government. Not bad for a start.
Posted by: Yadro | Nov 6 2024 20:30 utc | 68
TCMM @ 4
It doesn't work that way. The windup toy idiots serving in Ukraine for peanuts are really just idiots. For any kind of high value work it would be extremely bad for morale and future recruitment to have your actors literally die. So what is hired are actors. On both ends. Nobody dies. ll is staged.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 6 2024 20:31 utc | 69
@ Newbie | Nov 6 2024 19:26 utc | 41
thanks..
@ William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 19:33 utc | 43
lol!
Posted by: james | Nov 6 2024 20:33 utc | 70
Vance is CIA via Peter Thiel and Palantir. Musk's father is acknowledged to have been MI6. You don't seriously think the apple falls far from the tree?
We have traded one CIA faction for another. This is slightly preferable to an absolute monolith but it ain't much.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 6 2024 20:36 utc | 71
I'd be curious to know how the new Trump govt will deal with Keir Starmer in Britain, given that members of British Labour actually meddled ... erm, "assisted" and "advised" the Democrats during the election campaign period leading up to November.
Maybe Starmer won't last the distance as British PM while Trump is President.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 6 2024 20:37 utc | 72
Essay: Why I Won't Vote, W.E.B Dubois 1956
https://www.blackagendareport.com/essay-why-i-wont-vote-w-e-b-du-bois-1956
"For years, Du Bois had tried to vote for third parties, for socialist parties, for communist parties, for the 'lesser evil' of the two racist parties - only to come to the exasperated conclusion that the US was too far gone and that voting in the US was essentially pointless..."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 6 2024 20:38 utc | 73
Trump might not manage to end the SMO in one day, but he managed to end the German government. Not bad for a start.Posted by: Yadro | Nov 6 2024 20:30 utc | 68
I am sure you meant this tongue in cheek... Scholz and Lindner have been at odds for a long time already.
Posted by: jure | Nov 6 2024 20:39 utc | 74
end the German government.
Posted by: Yadro | Nov 6 2024 20:30 utc | 68
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Its happening, but not because of Trump.
Nord Stream was sabotaged on 26 September 2022.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 20:40 utc | 75
Nice one Yadro, made me smile :)
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Markw ( Nov 6 2024 20:22 utc | 65 ) is an interesting take on things, who knows.
Counterpoint is that reality tends to be a lot messier than anything we humans usually (ever?) imagine.
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Now ...about that genocide that keep going on...
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Nov 6 2024 20:42 utc | 76
LOL, who dis day-dreaming clown? Israel is now UNCUFFED,they are rejoicing right now. If anything, the Mullah regime in Iran is f*kked.
Israel will be razed to the ground and the Palestinian resistance will be victorious.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 7
Posted by: Barry Lydnon | Nov 6 2024 20:43 utc | 77
20 million fewer people voted in 2024 than in 2020. Republican voter purges, apathy and leftest out to punish the Dems for Gaza were the deciding factors—of course racism , misogyny and Christian nationalism mobilized the right. The entire Federal Government will be under one party rule. Look for Trump to be gone in two years so we can have 12 years of plutocratic government under Vance.
Posted by: Zargo | Nov 6 2024 20:45 utc | 78
Posted by: D | Nov 6 2024 18:12 utc | 6
So Trump is seriously unwell, eh?
Are you a doctor?
Prove that Trump is unwell.
Posted by: morongobill | Nov 6 2024 20:46 utc | 79
Harris lost because the deep state leaders never liked Harris.
And that for two reasons,
(1) Harris has never been sufficiently pro Israel aggressiveness. That annoyed the Jewish element of the deep state, such as the owners of CNN, Black Rock and the like.
(2) Harris is not an intelligent person nor is she is exceptional in any way. She is not considered to be sufficiently schooled to be part of the self anointed intelligentsia who reside in side the Washington Beltway. She was shunned by that group and lost the support of organizations such as the the Washington Post.
But the question is, if it wasn't going to be either Biden or Harris who, then, did the deep state want in the oval office?
Answer: Nikki Haley. She was all that Harris wasn't. Perfect.
And they almost got their wish.
On the morning of July 13 2024, the only person who stood between Nikki Haley and the presidency was Donald Trump. So for the deep state to get her in there, they came up with a plan using a space case named Thomas Matthew Crooks. But it didn't work out according to plan. And the deep state is back at square one, examining alternatives, Ill bet.
Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Nov 6 2024 20:52 utc | 80
Some media stuff from outside the US:
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According to Bloomberg News, Israeli officials believe that the transition period in the United States before Trump takes office in January could offer Israel an opportunity to target Iran’s nuclear programme.
Analysts dismissed the likelihood that President Joe Biden would authorise a coordinated attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities alongside Israel.
- Middleeasteye live-blog
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke with Donald Trump to offer congratulations on his victory in the US presidential election, according to Netanyahu's office.
In a statement, the office described the conversation as "warm and cordial". They discussed “the Iranian threat” and emphasised the importance of collaborating to ensure Israel's security, the statement added.
- Middleeeasteye live-blog
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Trump to stinky Netanyahu: Bomb Iran's nuclear program. We will talk later
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Gazaplatform?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Nov 6 2024 20:53 utc | 81
Posted by: Zargo | Nov 6 2024 20:45 utc | 78
"12 years of plutocratic government under Vance."
As long as that? I doubt it The apocalypse is coming sooner. (No rapture or Jesus, but a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth (from those few left who can afford a dentist)
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 20:59 utc | 82
@Yadro #68
German chancellor fires finance minister, leaving government teetering on brink of collapse
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz fired his finance minister on Wednesday, leaving the government teetering on the brink of collapse.
In a televised address, Scholz said he had dismissed Finance Minister Christian Lindner saying it “was necessary to prevent harm to our country.”
The firing came after days of political negotiation between Scholz, Lindner, and Robert Habeck of the Green party, who is both the vice-chancellor and the economics minister.
Lindner had triggered days of wrangling with the publication of an 18-page economic paper published last week, entitled “Germany’s economic turnaround.” It had been described in German media as the coalition’s divorce papers, as its tone and contents appear distinctly at odds with the positions of his government partners.
[...]
“After the US elections we need to show we can be relied on,” Scholz said, adding that “great financial room for maneuver” is needed given the challenges that Germany faces.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/06/europe/germany-government-scholz-finance-minister-intl-latam
Scholz has been a disaster for Germany and Europe. Pathetic wimp US slave.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 6 2024 21:11 utc | 83
Trump will finish his term and he will bring some good changes and probably some things not as agreeable. May he be better than we hope.
Posted by: osi not ossi | Nov 6 2024 21:12 utc | 84
German chancellor fires finance minister, leaving government teetering on brink of collapse
Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 6 2024 21:11 utc | 83
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Vote of confidence in January. Without confidence snap elections in March.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 21:14 utc | 85
At any rate if there were 10 million phony votes in 2020 somebody would have found some evidence. The absolute absence of evidence despite millions looking for it suggests there is none.
Posted by: jinn | Nov 6 2024 19:56 utc | 53
That's some special logic there. 10 Million Americans hated Trump so much in 2020, yet no such evidence showed up in the polls befire the election. And that burning hatred subsided so much that those 10 Million stayed home 4 years later.
While you are looking for evidence, where are they hiding all the evidence of the Biden family accepting foreign bribes, including Ukraine? Of course there's "no Evidence."
And Jeffrey Epstein choked himself to death in his cell. After shutting off the cameras and asking his guards to take a 2 hour break.
Jeez, the Deep Cesspool is getting trolls with the intellect of Adam's Apple Kamala.
Posted by: kupkee | Nov 6 2024 21:16 utc | 86
Dr. Sergei Glazyev, the minister of macroeconomics at the Eurasia Economic Commission, part of the EAEU :
The ostriches scatter, the Pax Americana ends. Leo Strauss’s sect, which ruled the United States and planned to establish a world dictatorship, naturally loses the elections.
The US deep state also has no choice – a repetition of the falsification will lead to civil war and the collapse of the country. Pragmatists come to power in the United States, recognizing the fact of the transition to a new world economic order.
Brzezinski’s strategy of defeating Russia, destroying Iran, and isolating China, predictably, has only strengthened China, which has become a global leader. Together with India, it will form the new bipolar center of the new ICU. The United States can integrate into it as another center of the world economy if it abandons imperialism and stops the world hybrid war.
This is in the national interests of the United States, which Trump will free from the sect of ostriches that saddle them. Bringing Washington’s policy into line with the national interests of the United States will lead to the sobering up of Europe and the fall of anti-people treacherous regimes in Germany and France.
Climatic psychosis will subside.
As we predicted, the global hybrid war launched by the US power and financial elite for world domination in 2001 with the attack of American intelligence services on the Twin Towers in New York will end next year with a general recognition of its defeat and the completion of the transition to a new ICU.
The world will become polycentric and multi-currency, the importance of national sovereignty and international law will be restored.
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I completely agree with this observation. Trump was allowed to win without interference because it is now time to allow the house of cards to fail.
It all hinged on Ukraine - what if we had won and Russia lost? Jeez, untold $trillions in leveraged natural resources would have allowed the national debt to increase maybe 10x (to $350T). The MIC/DoD/State/CIA/FBI/NSA apparatus unrivaled in power and control.
But, the unthinkable happened, the gas station with nukes developed missle weapons systems that defeated Western air supremacy doctrine. Oh, shit!
So now, plan B: the reset. No, not the WEF version, the $dollar version where the USA loses the reserve and is consigned to a generation or two wandering the wilderness, our very own 90s as previously experienced by Russia.
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 21:19 utc | 87
We have traded one CIA faction for another. This is slightly preferable to an absolute monolith but it ain't much.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 6 2024 20:36 utc | 71
Yeah.
Posted by: osi not ossi | Nov 6 2024 21:20 utc | 88
Remember the sweeping tax cuts that were passed in 2017 when republicans had control of the House and Senate?
They added an estimated $1.9 trillion to the government budget deficit. Republicans voted for that legislation knowing full well that this deficit would feed almost $2 trillion dollars into the non-government sector.
But where did that windfall go?
The answer is that the vast majority went to large profitable corporations and the wealthiest people in America. Remember, every budget deficit is good for someone. The deficits created by the Trump tax cuts were really really really good for the folks in the top 1%.
Trump will return to the White House with an agenda that would increase deficits by another few trillion all going to the top 1%. Of course will increase The national debt.
The battle fund to fight the next election in 4 years time.
No tax on tips, no tax on Social Security if he was telling the truth are good ideas since taxes don't fund the government anyway. They won't increase the deficit ( private sector surplus ) that much as they will spent or used to pay down debt by service workers and the retired.
Trump wants interest rates back to zero. So that's a good step in the right directuon. Wants 3% mortgages. Will the penny drop with Elvira Nabiullina ? I very much doubt it. So FED will really start cutting rates from here.
Keep a very close eye on Elon Musk
Musk He has quietly been acquiring money-transmitter licenses across the U.S. and has said it plans to "revolutionize" the payments system.
Why he gave so much money to Trump.
You don't quietly buy money-transmitter licenses across the U.S if it is a no go. You buy them after bribing who you want to win the election on the agreement you get the green light off of the candidate you bought wins.
The Con:
You sell a USD stable coin that does not pay interest, take the $'s you receive for the coin and invest it dollar for dollar in US govt bonds and collect the interest on the bonds for yourself….
So if you sold $1B of your coins and put the $1B in 10 yr treasury right now you get 4.4 or $44M every year for ten years just to operate a blockchain system…
Musk plans To Replace PayPal, Visa And Banks Quietly.
HERE:
BlackRock and Jamie Dimond is On board.
HERE:
Trump will leave it them to implement and design.Art of the deal. Trump gets paid huge sums and those who paid the huge sums can basically do what they want.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 6 2024 21:21 utc | 89
WG @ 43:
Somewhere you forgot to add that if middle class parents cannot afford to have their children spayed, the teachers and administrators at the schools the children attend for obedience classes (to learn to sit, lie down, roll over and maybe count from 1 to 10) can arrange for the school veterinary services to neuter them at US taxpayer expense.
A bonus incentive for middle class parents to allow schools to take care of the spaying would be that spayed children will be allowed off the leash in the playground for 30 minutes each day.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 6 2024 21:22 utc | 90
despite every vacuous faux naive talking point derived prognostication and other pointless partisan comments hitting the sphere there is a serious chance this outcome could result in a shootout between RFK JR and those dirty motherfuckers who killed his father and uncle. What the Kennedys represented as a Democratic Party legend might be different from the reasons they were eliminated. It wasnt LBJ's problem in June of 68. It was the CIA's. Not Israel. Not Russia. Not Cuba. Nonna them. These issues should be part of the discourse, not the bullshit being passed around by garbage media or PR skanks.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Nov 6 2024 21:23 utc | 91
Posted by: markw | Nov 6 2024 21:19 utc | 87
Yeah. If the yanks had been half smart they would have allied themselves with Russia against China. But in order to do that, the Russians would have to have been terminally stupid.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Nov 6 2024 21:25 utc | 92
Reminder: Some people in the US actually went to jail and were denied their constitutional right to a trial by jury for months because they had the temerity to raise an issue over the 'stink' of eighty-one million votes that magically turned-up for Biden and only Biden.
I don't believe for a second that Obama wanted a new round of primaries after Biden toddled off: that's just Obama throwing other Democrat party power brokers under the bus to preserve his public image.
Posted by: Monos | Nov 6 2024 21:30 utc | 93
Expected U-Turn
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1854234990264856692
"Europe makes u-turn on Trump approach after former president wins re-election."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 6 2024 21:32 utc | 94
Totally unsurprised to see the right wing loons are out today crowing about amerika's quadrennial farce, the result of which is unlikely to make an iota of difference to amerika's acceleration down the gurgler, or more importantly the connected over-the-top violence peoples in the rest of the world will suffer as the empire flings its limbs around in an orgy of blood & lust as that empire writhes about in its death throes.
The problem is a very simple one but one that probably will fail to be recognised by sufficient humans to ever have a hope of fixing it.
The move by control freak careerists to centralise the governance of so-called 'leftist' political organisations has resulted in a faux leftism that the left was always at risk from, becoming dominant.
Like the englander labour party, the amerikan democrats aka dims devise policy far from that desired by the ordinary unassuming humans who vote for them, or at least those who are meant to vote for them.
Just as the labour party quickly cancelled the shift to democratisation for the selection of their leader by allowing selection by a popular vote of the members, the democrats can no longer permit their presidential candidates to be selected by the masses in a so-called 'primary'. Hence the b sanders cancellation in 2016 & 2020 plus the insane mess of waiting until after the primary to force biden to pull the pin, followed by the installation of the universally unappealing harris.
When the people pick their desired leader, they pick a person with policies the moneyed-class aka 'the donors' cannot accept. Someone who the professional pols believe will be doomed to fail due to lack of advertising and shoestring campaigning is rejected on the grounds "He/she cannot win".
The irony is that the neoliberal moron selected by the professional pols is unlikely to win either unless the conservative forces the pseudo left candidate runs against are so on the nose that they do achieve success - once. In addition to the unre-electability of biden see A Albanese (Oz) or K starmer (england). However they quickly run afoul of the people cos their policies don't differ from those conservatives they replaced and they only survive for 1 term.
I cannot see a way past this conundrum as these once slightly leftish movements are firmly in the grip of careerists who just will not let go. It is easier to conceive of the end of this type of governance selection than it is to envisage a major change in the types who control the movements.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 6 2024 21:33 utc | 95
This is funny (machine translated)
End-time mood at the Federal Foreign Office? Baerbock backed the wrong horseThe Federal Foreign Minister had clear sympathies for Kamala Harris during the US election campaign. However, the Democrat lost - and so did Baerbock. A commentary.
The thick fog in Berlin on this November Wednesday is emblematic of the gloomy mood that is likely to prevail in the Foreign Office. At Werderscher Markt, in Mitte, not far from Alexanderplatz, the strategists of German foreign policy now have to quickly change their plans. Annalena Baerbock, the Green Ministers of State Anna Lührmann, Tobias Lindner and Co. have backed the wrong horse - it is not the preferred Kamala Harris who will be in charge of the White House for the next four years, but Donald Trump.
The piquant thing is that Baerbock made no secret of her sympathies for Harris and, in her role as the highest-ranking German chief diplomat, even publicly expressed her enthusiasm for the idea of working with the Democratic presidential candidate. In a world “in which perhaps a little too much testosterone sometimes flies around”, “strong women might not do certain situations any harm, but rather good,” said Baerbock at a press conference this summer.
Bu-bye Annalena.
Posted by: too scents | Nov 6 2024 21:37 utc | 96
Now we know why the laughing hyena harris took so long to concede. It took that long to have those many carefully crafted empty words written for her.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 6 2024 21:38 utc | 97
Posted by: NoName | Nov 6 2024 19:23 utc | 40
It will be very quick, an executive order on Day 1 that states no company that pursues any type of a DEI agenda will be able to tender for any government jobs. Set up a hotline, where employees can document any attempts to disguise ideological HR practices. Next, remove it from universities and force the savings onto tuition fees (600% increase in four decades). on 50/50 ideological spit, reflective of the country, in every university faculty (it’s gone from 4 out of 10 to 1 out of 20 Con, Lib). Only keep tenure for hard subjects, or those academics who boost the universities net worth.
Day One, executive order no 2, ban all promotion of LGBT+ to infants, and only discuss the subject tangentially with high school children, where appropriate. Gross misconduct for any teacher who pushes any blatantly political or social agenda to children. Gut the department of education and make sure all teacher training colleges adhere to strict adherence to a balance intake and a curriculum that focuses on core subjects and removes the aberration that is common-core.
This takes the heads of the hydra, but also targets the ones that will regrow. Businesses will drop DEI if it seriously affects the bottom line (see Disney) and the conveyor belt of ideological workers is interrupted but also drained at source. This, admittedly will take half a generation to take full effect, but the other measure will effect a quick institutional impact. Its HACCP analysis adapted to the socio-political spectrum.
Posted by: Milites | Nov 6 2024 21:38 utc | 98
@jinn #53
b uses the term "stolen", not "fraudulent".
The difference is: fraud is a crime that requires both breaking of laws and intent to do so.
A stolen election, however, does not necessarily require fraud.
The unprecedented flood of mail-in ballots to voters of which half of them didn't bother to use them, 4 years later, is a very big sign that 2020 was stolen.
As for your assertion that it is a decline in Trump Derangement - sorry, zero evidence for that.
The professional/managerial class/elites/bureaucrats are, if anything, MORE deranged than in 2020.
Equally, the turnout changes are certainly partly due to Harris' literally non-existent platform - Christoforou correctly summarized it as "Joy" then "Anger" then what? - but far more due to economic and censorship issues.
That's what TDS people don't seem to get: the censorship industrial complex nonsense, the 51 intel experts manipulation, the lawfare, Russiagate, etc etc - all served to underscore that while the term "threat to democracy" in 2020 was termed Trump - the "threat to democracy" in 2024 is precisely the PMCs/bureaucrats/intel agencies and so forth.
Posted by: c1ue | Nov 6 2024 21:40 utc | 99
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1854043871887458600
Prem Thakker @prem_thakker
"I'm speaking" ok but were you listening?
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1854100421582680253
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Trump: *was shit*
The Dems: We’ll fix this!
The People: Ok, let’s give them a chance
The Dems: *done nothing to help working class, waged Imperialist war in Ukraine, committed genocide in Gaza, lied constantly*
Trump: *wins election*
The Dems: OMG how did this happen?!
Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 6 2024 21:40 utc | 100
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"Trump is unlikely to have a full term."
In other words, the Deep State psychos will assassinate him.
Sadly, that's probably true. I wonder how the American people will take that?
Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 6 2024 17:58 utc | 1