Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 4, 2024
White House To Meddle In Lebanese Policies – Provoking More Bombings

David Ignatius, the CIA's and administration's spokesperson at the Washington Post, is peddling one of these day's most stupid ideas:

The U.S. has an opportunity to help rebuild Lebanese sovereignty – (archived)
Israel’s decapitation of Hezbollah has created a security vacuum.

The Biden administration’s diplomacy has failed to restrain Israel and de-escalate the Middle East conflict over the past year. But the administration has a new opportunity for constructive engagement: helping the Lebanese Armed Forces fill the void left by a collapsing Hezbollah and reestablish the Lebanese government’s sovereignty.

To start a column with a lies shows the way it will go. The Biden administration has not 'failed to restrain' Israel but has urged it to peruse its attacks on Hizbullah:

Presidential adviser Amos Hochstein and Brett McGurk, the White House coordinator for the Middle East, told top Israeli officials in recent weeks that the U.S. agreed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s broad strategy to shift Israel’s military focus to the north against Hezbollah in order to convince the group to engage in diplomatic talks to end the conflict, the officials told POLITICO.

The Lebanese Armed Forces, which Ignatius wants to promote, have a nominal strength of some 80,000 men. But, thanks to U.S. influence over it, they is only lightly armed, little trained and of no use against any serious enemy. The LAF's fighting value in quantity and quality is well below that of Hizbullah's cadres.

Ignatius is dreaming:

Israel’s decapitation of Hezbollah — culminating in the killing of Hasan Nasrallah last week — has created a security vacuum in Lebanon. The shellshocked lower ranks of Hezbollah undoubtedly hope to fill the void. But for the first time in a generation, there’s a real chance that the LAF takes control of the nation’s security and its borders, with proper assistance.

'A collapsing Hizbullah' is a wet dream of imperialist and Zionist but has nothing to do with reality. Just ask the Israeli forces which, in recent days, tried to infiltrate into southern Lebanon. The alleged 'security vacuum' hit them with all its might:

Israeli forces were struck with rockets on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Odaisseh on Thursday afternoon, one of the towns where troops fell into a bloody ambush just a day earlier.

A Hezbollah guided-missile attack also hit a Merkava tank in the Natoa settlement not long before.

“When an Israeli enemy infantry force attempted to infiltrate towards the cemetery of the town of Yaroun, the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance detonated a Sejil explosive device at the advancing force at 12:00 noon on Thursday 10-3-2024, killing and wounding them,” Hezbollah said earlier, marking its 21st statement on 3 October.

Hezbollah announced shortly before that its fighters “detonated an explosive device at 12:00 noon on Thursday 10-3-2024 with a force from the Golani Brigade in the Tartira area in the town of Maroun al-Ras, which was trying to bypass the western side of the town.”

The members of the Golani Brigade force were killed or wounded, the Hezbollah statement added.

Over the last days the 'security vacuum' also managed to fire hundreds of missiles onto the Zionist colony:

Sirens sounded in Israel's Haifa, Carmel foot hills and the Hadera region, including – for the first time since the war began, in Caesarea, An affluent seaside community where Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu owns a private residence.

Hezbollah attacked northern Israel including the cities of Haifa and Acre repeatedly since the early morning hours. Rockets also landed in the Upper Galilee causing damage but no injuries.

The White House thinking, it seems, is not impeded by any reality:

The Biden administration sees a “massive opportunity” in Lebanon, a senior official told me this week. But to help Lebanon regain sovereignty, the Biden administration will have to move quickly and decisively while Hezbollah is still in disarray.

The Pentagon has been rehearsing for this role for several decades through its support program for the LAF. Less than four months ago, the Pentagon hosted the LAF’s commander, Gen. Joseph Aoun, in Washington and at Centcom headquarters in Florida.

“Biden administration officials want the LAF to prepare a force that could potentially deploy near the border to monitor a future buffer zone negotiated between Israel and Hezbollah,” Al-Monitor news organization reported at the time of Aoun’s visit in mid-June.

The LAF forces are already deployed near the border. They are not very friendly with Israeli forces which routinely kills them:

Two Lebanese army soldiers were killed in separate Israeli strikes on south Lebanon on Thursday, the military said as Hezbollah said it repelled Israeli troops trying to cross the border.

The army said in a statement that a soldier was killed in an Israeli strike on a military post in the Bint Jbeil area, adding that soldiers fired back at the source of the fire.

A military official told AFP that this was the first response to Israeli fire since last October because the post had been “directly” hit.

It was the second Lebanese soldier to be killed by Israeli strikes on Thursday.

The army had announced earlier in the day that a soldier “was killed and another was wounded as a result of an aggression by the Israeli enemy during an evacuation and rescue operation with the Lebanese Red Cross in Taybeh village.”

To support his dream Ignatius cites a long discredited Lebanese neo-conservative:

Michael Young, a veteran Lebanese journalist, explained the dynamics after Nasrallah’s death in a post Sunday for the Carnegie Endowment’s Diwan website. He juxtaposed Hezbollah’s “logic of resistance” with “the logic of the state” and said the latter “imposes itself on a country that has been carried into a catastrophe by an armed group that has disregarded the Lebanese state.”

Young wrote that in the view of many Lebanese, “the single national institution that retains credibility and widespread popular endorsement is the Lebanese army.”

Unlike Ignatius, Young himself sees no plausible way to put the Lebanese army on top of the state. The most influential politician in Lebanon is the current speaker of the parliament, Nabih Berri. His Amal party is allied with Hizbullah and depends on its votes. Without Berri's support, Young writes, any change in the distribution of power in Lebanon is inconceivable.

But Ignatius insists that the impossible is doable or at least worth a try:

[R]ebuilding the Lebanese state behind a strong army — supported by a population that is sick of Hezbollah’s violent fantasy of resistance — is an achievable goal. It will require disciplined American effort and political will. But it’s a worthy task for Joe Biden’s final months in office and for his successor.

So let's send the Marines to prop up the LAF and let's manipulated the country's policies through bribes from the U.S. embassy.

Some thirty years ago the U.S. attempted to do such stupid things. In consequence its embassy got blown up as were the Marine's barracks.

Why someone believes that it is smart to now follow a similar strategy, and to thereby likely provoke a similar outcome, is well beyond me.


Added: Ignatius' column is, apparently, not a fluke. Axios just posted this:

Scoop: U.S. wants to use Hezbollah's weakness to elect new Lebanese president

The stupidity – it hurts.

Comments

It took me a moment to realise that 10-3-2024 was not the 10th of March.
Why can’t the yanks, and their colonies, write the date the way the rest of the world writes it?

Posted by: Brad Golding | Oct 5 2024 11:40 utc | 401

BREAKING NEWS⚠️
🇷🇺🇮🇷Russia has delivered Iran the S-400
In an astonishing move Russia has just gifted Iran multiple S400 units after 15 years The 400 is renowned as the world’s most advanced anti-air defense system
Russia has just fundamentally transformed iran’s air-defence
https://x.com/ZAINABALI_72/status/1841881292939674085

Posted by: Menz | Oct 5 2024 11:40 utc | 402

Posted by: Brad Golding | Oct 5 2024 11:40 utc | 402
Let them sink with gallon, mile, pint and making bakeries by cups/half cups anf farhenait.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 5 2024 11:46 utc | 403

Anybody noticed that Iran now has a nuclear payload delivery mechanism?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 11:39 utc | 401

The Iranian’s deployed laser anti-UAV systems at Khamenei’s Friday prayer.
https://t.me/milinfolive/132116
Persians aren’t simpletons.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2024 11:47 utc | 404

@ Menz | Oct 5 2024 11:40 utc | 403
This is good news, I suppose, except for the fact that the S400s need to be installed and fully operational by, say, yesterday. I hope this is in fact the case.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 11:48 utc | 405

WHAT will happen when Israel brings destruction down unto ITSELF?
Whole region – Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Israel, perhaps even Iran – would be in tatters, every country engulfed in flames.
Will there be a mad SCRAMBLE to restore order there? Could THAT be the endgame in somebody’s mind? Who could hope to be powerful enough to do such a thing?

Posted by: js | Oct 5 2024 11:49 utc | 406

“Nigra sum”
“Nigra sum sed fermosa, filiae Ierusalem”
(I quote it in the Latin text cited a thousand times by Western literature)
-“I am black but I look spectacular, daughters of the Sadducean oligarchy”
the peasant woman shouts to the languid and white daughters of the priestly aristocracy of the Temple-city
Honestly, a whole cult has been created around the concept of racism to hide the reality: classism
The yehudi from the city who enslaved a yehudi from the countryside was not racist, but classist
On the other hand, keep this in mind: if the Original Aramaic Mental Software (which is now the official religion of this colossal and deadly empire) enslaved the Hebrews, what will it do with all of us?
In fact, all of us in America and Europe have been reduced to the condition of medieval peasants.

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 11:49 utc | 407

We shouldn’t be at all surprised
This is the neo-con way writ large
Hubris, over-confidence, blind faith in the exceptionalism of the USA, which, according to their delusional mindset is always best and will therefore always prevail
You can see it in the trail of blood and tears from Iraq, Syria, Libya and lately Ukraine and of course the ultimate neo-con wet dream of god’s chosen race, who are now busily digging their own graves because they don’t know how to stop.

Posted by: Sir Keef | Oct 5 2024 11:52 utc | 408

Iran must have really walloped many of those israeli air bases and other military/intelligence facilities for israel to now consider responding, at all….. it all hurt Bibi’s pride and vanity so much
english (dot) al mayadeen (dot) net/news/politics/iranian-vp–war-not-our-goal–but-our-response-will-be-crush
Iranian VP: War not our goal, but our response will be crushing
….Earlier today, the deputy chief of the Iranian Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Ali Fadavi, issued a stern warning to “Israel”, stating that any misstep by the entity would endanger its very existence.
In an exclusive interview for Al Mayadeen, Fadavi said, “If the occupying entity makes a mistake, we will target all its energy sources, including power stations, refineries, and gas fields.”
He emphasized the contrast between Iran and the Israeli entity, pointing out that while Iran is a large country with many economic centers, “Israel” is limited to just three power stations and a few refineries.
Fadavi asserted that Iran has the capability to strike all of these targets simultaneously.
In a related context, Commander-in-Chief of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army, Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi, told Al Mayadeen that “Israel” will face a severe and devastating response for any reckless actions……
https://x.com/IranSpec/status/1842242237905899594
Iran Spectator @IranSpec
𝗦𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝗜𝗺𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘄𝘀 𝗗𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆𝗲𝗱 𝗙𝟯𝟱’𝘀…
New Satellite Photos shows that Iran did in fact destroy several 𝗙𝟯𝟱 aircrafts in Nevatim Airbase.
𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲𝘀 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗲𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝟯𝟱…

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 5 2024 11:53 utc | 409

Iran must have really walloped many of those israeli air bases and other military/intelligence facilities for israel to now consider responding, at all….. it all hurt Bibi’s pride and vanity so much
from the English version of al mayadeen
Iranian VP: War not our goal, but our response will be crushing
….Earlier today, the deputy chief of the Iranian Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Ali Fadavi, issued a stern warning to “Israel”, stating that any misstep by the entity would endanger its very existence.
In an exclusive interview for Al Mayadeen, Fadavi said, “If the occupying entity makes a mistake, we will target all its energy sources, including power stations, refineries, and gas fields.”
He emphasized the contrast between Iran and the Israeli entity, pointing out that while Iran is a large country with many economic centers, “Israel” is limited to just three power stations and a few refineries.
Fadavi asserted that Iran has the capability to strike all of these targets simultaneously.
In a related context, Commander-in-Chief of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army, Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi, told Al Mayadeen that “Israel” will face a severe and devastating response for any reckless actions……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 5 2024 11:55 utc | 410

3 power stations
2 refineries
Is Bibi insane enough to try it ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 12:00 utc | 411

The puppets want the master give the orders in advance….What a buch of stupid morons!
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1842502178721898777
Menawhile Tennessee have been destroyed by hurricane Helene and the people there are not receiving any help and Lindsay Graham and the rest of neocons are saying thet is much important the Tennessee National Guard remain in Kuwait “defending Israel” than in their own state helping their brothers and sisters in danger.
https://www.instagram.com/northernprovisions/reel/DAtk4yAP6fx/
Lindsay Graham and the rest of neocons think the people in USA should not distract from some hundreds thousands of their fellows contrymen needed of help in the hurricane Helene disaster and concentrate the most important problem the USA has in their history, which is to defend Israel and destroy Iran.
And the brainwashed people continue voting this crazy murderers. I will never understand how the people in this country believe.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 12:09 utc | 412

THE FALL OF IMPERIALISM WITH JOTI BRAR – EPISODE 20 – EUROPEAN DISASTER

… the capitalist economic system is in a deep and deepening crisis … not a lot of people understand that what we see happening is at its root economic … then there is a need for a drive to war. War is about trying to restore profitability by seizing new sources of raw materials from someone else so that you can expand and kick start demand in your economy and keep growth going, growth of profits …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMxBHhi34UA

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 5 2024 12:11 utc | 413

Joe Biden and Kamyhoe Harris just expedited $157 M in disaster relief aid to Lebanon as if it were struck by a hurricane, instead of the daily IDF airstrikes.
How ironic that the Biden group is rushing supplies of M84 block buster 2K bombs to the IDF, bombs which are destroying whole blocks of south Beirut while also providing aid to help the homeless.
How utterly unhinged! Provide the means to murder innocent civilians, the victims of war crimes and then send aid to assist them! Complete hyprocracy in every single way.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 12:15 utc | 414

3 power stations
2 refineries
—> or one pipeline from Turkey
Is Bibi insane enough to try it ?
—> if it keeps him out of the dock…

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 12:21 utc | 415

Remember the Sanhedrin had the opportunity to welcome JC into Jerusalem (only two did) and instead devoted their efforts to have the God-Man of peace arrested by the Roman Governor Pillot (his wife advised him not to give way to the zealots), and later executed via scourge and crucifixion.
Later they hunted down and executed most his disciples too.
Exactly what has changed with this movement?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 12:22 utc | 416

@Jane | Oct 5 2024 0:11 utc | 227 On Palmyra:
It is one of the most important archaeological sites in the whole Levant.
A young Jordanian whom I met many years ago gave me a hardcover book just about Palmyra.
Norwegian | Oct 5 2024 8:08 utc Palmyra is very important indeed. However, the relative importance of places such as Palmyra reflects the current archeological interpretations. There are countless other extremely important
I think that the importance of Palmyra is beauty, the degree of preservation and the resulting impact on “common people”. As its history is well covered by … history, the impact on archaeological interpretation is so-so.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 5 2024 12:29 utc | 417

Joe Biden and Kamyhoe Harris just expedited $157 M in disaster relief aid to Lebanon as if it were struck by a hurricane, instead of the daily IDF airstrikes.
How ironic that the Biden group is rushing supplies of M84 block buster 2K bombs to the IDF, bombs which are destroying whole blocks of south Beirut while also providing aid to help the homeless.
How utterly unhinged! Provide the means to murder innocent civilians, the victims of war crimes and then send aid to assist them! Complete hyprocracy in every single way.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 12:15 utc | 414

In truth its not really surprising or perplexing. It actually follows a rational form of logic. The intention is to push the country and its people to despair and desperation and then offer them respite via their chosen proxies in the country with a view to bolstering these proxies politically. The calculation is that if they do they can then manipulate and split the population.
Its classic divide and rule.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 5 2024 12:31 utc | 418

@ Andrew Sarchus | Oct 5 2024 10:15 utc | 379
Thanks for that. A good read.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 5 2024 12:32 utc | 419

I don’t know if this has been really written really by one IDF (child-murderers) officers or is a psy-op of the axis of resistance, but I would not be surprise if this is the real picture of the current fight in Souther Lebanon between a worn out IDF (after 11 month of fight in Gaza) and an incredible motivated to extract revenge Hezbollah force.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1841901541592043793.html

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 12:33 utc | 420

I noticed that Simplicius pointed out the difficulty with getting satellite images from over Israel is that US law protects them from being released – with no corresponding protection over the US !
Then we have Blinken lying to Congress. His loyalty to Israel came first.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 5 2024 12:35 utc | 421

Bibi and the war loving War Cabinet have been effectively checkmated by the Iranian airstrikes.
They cant forcefully retaliate against the Iranians because they know now that the Iranians are fully capable of hitting all infrastructure targets in every corner of occupied Palestine.
They can not use the nuclear option because the RF has declared Iran is under their nuclear umbrella. In addition they can not be assured that Iranians do not now possess a deliverable nuclear device (they most likely do not, but who knows, maybe they purchased one from the NK’s). So that option is off the table (and by the way the first IDF nuclear device was “gifted” to them by none other than LBJ, the ultimate AIPAC cash harvester, and the POTUS who countermanned the counter strike order against the IDF during the USS Liberty attack in 1967).
The next 48 hours will tell the tale…..will Bibi launch a suicide attack on Iran, and then insure the destruction of his entire electrical and energy grid and delivery system…….what no AC in the high rises of Tel Aviv and Haifa?
Barflies will need lay in a huge supply of popcorn, cheetos and a free round for all…………..get ready for the big show!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 12:38 utc | 422

Dave’s link printed in its entirety :
…..I have just received the operational SITREP for Lebanese border offensive and things are not looking good 😔😢
Debating whether I should reveal it or not cos I have not read anything like it in my 22 years at IDF
💔🇮🇱
#LebanonUnderAttack #AmYisraelChai
Ok here goes nothing
A 🧵 of Lebanese offensive SITREP
1/n
• Operational effectiveness is extremely low due to high casualty rates, unprecedented cases of disobedience of officers’ orders, attempts of desertion and extremely low morale
2/n
•Hezbollah operatives on the other hand are, in some cases, even better equipped compared to our special forces. Using new, never seen before IEDs. Organised and impossible to detect. In one case, they were using loudspeaker to mock our special forces holed in their position
3/n
• Over 300 confirmed dead and injured IDF soldiers sustained over the past 48 hours. Hezb has launched several successful ambushes resulting in high fatalities, particularly within our Special Forces.
4/n
• Morale has hit rock bottom with combat troops questioning and doubting command decisions and the viability of their mission. Around 1,400 soldiers unaccounted for (presumed to have fled the area).
5/n
• Wounded evacuation is extremely challenging due to Hezb controlling the entire area. Command structure is devastated due to numerous officer fatalities, desertion, soldiers’ unwillingness to follow orders and disillusionment among the soldiers re mission viability
6/n
• One particular incident caught my eye where a special services unit refused to obey command orders to launch a counter offensive, after witnessing massive fatalities suffered by the lead unit. *This I have never heard in 22 years of IDF service*
7/n
• Hezb has taken the initiative and stepped up their attacks, sensing low morale, fragmentation and internal chaos amongst our soldiers. At one point, some commanders believed that the Russian Spetsnaz were fighting alongside Hezb soldiers but it was later dispelled.
8/n
• The operation is in critical state and without decisive correctional measures (or a miracle), the probability of a total collapse is extremely high.
*Hezb is nearing a strategic victory and I don’t have to tell you how catastrophic it would be for Israel*
9/n 💔🇮🇱😞
• • •
 

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 12:40 utc | 423

I don’t think most people are pretending that what they say here has anything whatsoever to do with progress of events on the ground
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 5 2024 10:10 utc | 377
I don’t either. I’m just making that observation of real world status in reference to the notion of ‘post relevance’.
Relevant to what? We could fill column feet arguing that and pad out the length with even more irrelevance about irrelevance.
Best to let it go short of obvious out of the park nonsense. I think b basically does this.

Posted by: Greg | Oct 5 2024 12:45 utc | 424

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 4 2024 22:06 utc | 193
Thanks Arch for the thorough recap of Israeli/USA loses one year on.
Absorbing that is lifting me out of my Dunning-Kruger phase 3 (valley of despair) to phase 4 (slope of enlightenment). Gives one hope for phase 5 (plateau of sustainability).

Posted by: MrH | Oct 5 2024 12:47 utc | 425

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 12:40 utc | 423
Looks like the IDF invasion is not going well, put mildly.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2024 12:55 utc | 426

“So only Marxists are entitled to fight imperialism?”
Absolutely! And only chemists are entitled to use chemical reactions, and only physicists are entitled to employ the physical properties of the natural world, and only biologists are entitled to be alive!
Retards who know nothing about what Marxism is trying to sound authoritative really make those who know cringe. If your only exposure to Marxism is skimming a couple Wikipedia articles, or comments from the clueless instructors with brain worms teaching the special education “classes” you took back in university, then please refrain from talking about Marxism, and instead discuss something you know infinitely more about like the Riemann–Roch theorem, or combinatorics.
Yeah, you don’t know anything about those last two either, and that’s the point. When you try to sound authoritative about them in a discussion with people who have actually studied those topics for real, you end up sounding like a fool. If in your studies of what Marx actually wrote, your brain pooped out at the preamble to the Communist Manifesto, then you don’t know shit, and you sound like it in the most cringe-worthy way when you discuss it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2024 12:59 utc | 427

@Menz | Oct 5 2024 11:40 utc | 403

In an astonishing move Russia has just gifted Iran multiple S400 units after 15 years The 400 is renowned as the world’s most advanced anti-air defense system

Thank you for that information, this is very good news! It will definitely complicate US/Israeli ability to hurt Iran, while Israel remains extremely vulnerable should they try.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2024 13:06 utc | 428

Syria has applied to join BRICS.

https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/12300
Just another brick in the wall…

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2024 13:10 utc | 429

It is the action of the pro-Israeli lobby, which de facto controls Congress and without which no president can really act.”
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 3:12 utc | 290
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Quite a few people do talk about this!
I do think that Wolff, a US diaspora Jew, kind of skates past the power of the Israel lobby when he discusses the role of Christian Evangelicals in driving US policy.
This is a pretty simple point. Doesn’t take pages of text to state it. Others have done the heavy lifting on this topic.
But, yes, I would like to see a Hudson-Wolff discussion that zeroes in on this and see what comes up. Maybe Dima needs to insert himself into the dialogue and steer it to this issue.
Or, perhaps Hudson-Wolff did discuss this and I missed it.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 13:11 utc | 430

Horrified to be an American.
Honestly… the future does not look good. All things considered.
An internal collapse is just about certain, and being a hated pariah globally is the future.
Convince me otherwise.

Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Oct 5 2024 13:11 utc | 431

I think it’s Diana Johnstone, not Diane…
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 5 2024 3:40 utc | 296
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Yes, you are right. Thanks.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 13:13 utc | 432

@ laguerre 255
Sohaib was recomended by a dedicated pro-Palestine site, and as his title , he is “interpreter of Hebrew press” . In other words he is forwarding what the Hebrew sources are saying. He does so, I think, so that a view of occupation direction and presentation are known to Palestinians. Also so that a comparison with the reality can be made , which in honesty only those closer to all of this will be aware of.
That video was dubious but I have not seen it fully discredited or verified either. In reality it serves to discredit gulf states and Jordan though, no ?
The above report was based on Hezballah official statement. It is important because although some are intent on a propaganda war, there are repurcussions for false reporting – it makes those reporters look desperate or weak, or overly aggressive or unreliable , for example.
So each channel sticks to its method, there are those which often “over-report” and I avoid those. Occasionally exagerated stories find their way through to the more reliable channels, and then those get corrected until known better.
That is all I understand on that, but when I present his channel link from now on I will note above it that it focuses on occupation presentation. He is however often at the forefront on many other events in terms of being current , so it is not a site I would personally skip.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 13:14 utc | 433

Or, perhaps Hudson-Wolff did discuss this and I missed it.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 13:11 utc | 430

Nima’s interview with Chas Freeman discusses this topic frankly and directly. Freeman is a powerful speaker.
Amb. Chas Freeman: Iran vs. Israel – Are We on the Brink of War? ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEBR-ju3QYM

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2024 13:21 utc | 434

IMHO the child-murderers won’t attack Iran with planes, Iran has demonstrate they are good at making missiles, and that surely include AD missiles; they have also S-400’s ready, with probably a few hundreds ruskies fully embedded with the iranian operators to “train” and “coach” them, and surely receiving accurate information from the IRS of Mother Russian in real time, and also the iranian have been preparing for this show from decades, so they would have many dozens or even hundreds of radar stations in the western part of the country, so the child-murderers’ planes would be detected early and without an extensive SEAD air campaign with many cruise and ballistic missiles shot during weeks to “soft” the AD (as in Desert Storm or 2003 Irak invasion) they will never dare to lose their precious child-killing planes against a intact and modern AD.
I think the child-murderers will retaliate with missiles fired from submarines and/or from missiles fired from Occupied Palestine, but I am not sure the child-murderers have much power/capacity with this type of systems, I have never seen that they used them.
The other option, of course, is the ziopuppets wearing american uniforms attack Iran with some help from the child-murderers (not the opposite) and them the hell will fall-down on the poor GI’s in the ME
Posted by: Dave | Oct 4 2024 16:23 utc | 16
This is what I wrote yesterday and mor than ever I think the surface to surface missiles strike will be the preferred method for the child-murderers to attack Iran, another thing is what they intend to hit…

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 13:21 utc | 435

On the US’s Christian Evangelists role in making policy I have to wonder if some commenters have ever known any? They tend to be lower class and completely unable
to buy politicians and influence. They almost act as cover for the wealthy Zionists
who can and do.

Posted by: qparker | Oct 5 2024 13:30 utc | 436

From Chronicle Live Feed:
….Sat, Oct 5, 12:53 PM (Palestine Time)
Merkava tanks destroyed by Hezbollah
AL-MAYADEEN: Six Merkava tanks were destroyed by Islamic Resistance missiles since the beginning of the clashes……
Merkava tally plus 2 ; now 223 destroyed. (4 were added to tally prior to this report) .

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 13:30 utc | 437

JUST IN:
US officials to Yedioth Ahronoth that Israeli attack on Iran is imminent
Most flights are cancelled today starting at 4 pm, indicating an imminent Israeli attack on Iran

Posted by: grid5 | Oct 5 2024 13:36 utc | 438

Begging people to stop posting tweets by ‘supermensch69’ as though they’re real. It’s a not very funny but blindingly obvious attempt at satire.
Hezbollah have put out a statement today about ignoring sensational stories that haven’t come from them.

Posted by: Karl | Oct 5 2024 13:36 utc | 439

S400 SAM
Newest versions
400 km missile range
1.200km Radar tracking range

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 13:36 utc | 440

Posted by: qparker | Oct 5 2024 13:30 utc | 436
Evangelical, not Evangelists. The Evangelists are Matthew, Luke, Mark and John.

Posted by: Alberto | Oct 5 2024 13:41 utc | 441

Posted by: Karl | Oct 5 2024 13:36 utc | 439
There must be some truth to it, as apparently, ambushes, big casualties (even using rigged captured M-113) were confirmed by another article on the Cradle, which had more details of the events.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 5 2024 13:48 utc | 442

Dave 435 – All true……the IDF only has three operation German made diesel-electric subs in service. Only one is on station from Haifa base and one on station from the Eilat base.
These subs have a limited ability to launch cruise missiles. The carry six per boat.
The Haifa based boat would launch from the Eastern Med, but an Iran strike would be at max range for the cruise missiles, the Eilat based boat could launch from the entrance to the Persian Gulf, well within their range for an Iranian strike.
Am sure the Iranian Naval frigates would be on the prowl for this sub, and possibly RF frigates from Latakia would also be searching for the Haifa boat.
These boats would be easy marks for modern frigates with advanced ASW capacities………but we will see within the next 48 hours how the IDF plan works or doesnt work !

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 13:48 utc | 443

“The DC Deep State mycelium (including the Zionist fungus) that has sent its threads into every corner of the US govt, transforming it into a regime”
@11
Great analogy but it maligns mushrooms. 🙂

Posted by: lindaj | Oct 5 2024 13:51 utc | 444

442 Unimperator
There have been ambushes and casualties, but that account’s talking about the imminent total collapse of the IDF. It is not an Israeli account! It’s exaggerating how much they’re getting thrashed to try and be funny.
Hezbollah have specifically told people not to spread unverified sensational claims today. People will read those tweets in here and think they’re legit.
Sorry, not sure how to quote a post properly.

Posted by: Karl | Oct 5 2024 14:02 utc | 445

Guessing this goes one of 2 ways:
Israel does some “show” missile barrage, making all kinds of claims of success, Iran makes fun of them, and it all ends. BRICS 10/20 more important that it be a success atm.
Of course, there might be a play for an EMP strike, or a very serious cyber strike on infrastructure, and maybe the use of space warfare to take out Iran’s satellites.
Or:
The end of Israel & Syria/Iraq bases destroyed.
Not seeing Iran hitting anyone’s oil fields but Israelis.
Just not seeing US either ready or willing to tango with the S-400 and being humiliated by their useless weapons & AD systems, bad for sales, especially when you’re trying to convince SA to enter into a military pack with you & you can’t even “defend” Israel.
I think the play by Israel will be to cause mayhem, following the usual Ukraine failure belief system that the Iranians will turn against the governance and overthrow it. It’s always their go to fantasy when it’s obvious they’re outgunned and have failed. “Regime change!!” Appears their fantasy fix all.
US “appears” to be all guns, ready to fire with all force on Iran, but I think that’s a myth, and their bluff is being called.
It seems a lot of hoopla.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 14:03 utc | 446

@Rufus Arrr | Oct 5 2024 13:11 utc
Wish I could convince you otherwise, Rufus, but I can’t. We (the US-ians) are going to have to hit the wall hard in order to wake up, and we’re not nearly there yet.
I will say – such-what as I can at the moment – that the awareness of who the malefactors are, why they’re doing what they’re doing, and the adverse impact its (now) certain to have on all of us decent Americans … is becoming known.
When the Malefactors have to rely on such blatant repression and lying – and have to put this much effort into it – it says that pressure is building, and cats are getting out of the bag.
Will enough cats get out soon enough to forestall the worst consequences?
I don’t think so. There’s too much momentum. We’re going to hit the wall hard, and it’s likely to be rather sooner than later.
For those of you that don’t have contingency plans in place to handle the effects of nuclear war and the resulting dissolution of order, I humbly advise you to get moving, and pretty much now.
This isn’t an academic conversation any more. We’re on it. The Zionist cabal – Jews, Christians and Opportunists alike – have the power and the clear intent to make it happen.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 5 2024 14:09 utc | 447

The usual American hypocrisy about foreign “interference”.

Posted by: MoT | Oct 5 2024 14:10 utc | 448

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma, specialist and follower of Hebrew affairs
“Lebanese security source to Al Jazeera: Hezbollah has lost contact with its Executive Council Chairman Hashem Safieddine since last Friday
Lebanese security source to Al Jazeera:
Safi al-Din was in an underground headquarters when he was targeted by an Israeli raid in the Marija area.
Israeli drones have been bombing rescue teams since Friday to prevent them from reaching the targeted area.
International contacts to allow rescue teams to reach the site of the raid that targeted Safi al-Din.”
Continued strikes on Gaza and Lebanon.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 14:13 utc | 449

TASS States Israel killed him.
https://tass.com/world/1852489
5 OCT, 08:06
Hezbollah’s Executive Council head Hashem Safieddine killed by Israeli strike — report
“The strike, which took place on Friday, also killed several other ranking Hezbollah members and officers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
DUBAI, October 5. /TASS/. Hezbollah Executive Council Head Hashem Safieddine, the main contender to be the group’s secretary-general, was killed in a recent Israeli attack on Beirut, Al Arabiya television reported, citing sources.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 14:24 utc | 450

Trubind1 @ 446
US “appears” to be all guns, ready to fire with all force on Iran, but I think that’s a myth, and their bluff is being called.
The US can run missions out of Diego Garcia and smash up Iran a little. I am sure the Persians understand and have placed some of their SS-400’s correctly. Like other posters have said, Israel is a small place with limited infrastructure.
It appears the Gulf states will not allow the US to run missions off their territory. A US strike on Iran in that case will only further the move away from their dependance on the US as a protector and turn them into a regional provocateur. BRICS will gain ground. Irregardless, the US Zios dont give a shit. Its anyones guess as to what they will do as the USA is rudderless.
It has taken some time to knock the idea out of my head of Israels military superiority. They are ruthless, cunning murderers and that does not make them militarily superior. It makes them sub human IMHO but they do have great press here in the USA.
I sense a subtle change in the people around me. They are tired of this shit. Another 911 might be needed by the Zios.

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 5 2024 14:29 utc | 451

Good Morning Barflies!
My usual please b
I do want to share one of the latest live posting pieces from Al Manar which I found positive

17:20 Israeli occupation army: 110 missiles have been fired from Lebanon since this morning

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 5 2024 14:31 utc | 452

Confirmation of Iran/China collaboration in anti-drone technology.

🇮🇷 / 🇨🇳 NEW: Today at Tehran’s Friday prayer service, for the first time, an anti-air laser weapon was seen deployed on the premises
It seems to be the ‘Silent Hunter’, a Chinese-made anti-drone laser weapon, tasked with searching, tracking and destroying low-flying drones and unprotected aircraft.
The Silent Hunter uses an electrically powered fiber optic laser and has a maximum power between 30 and 100 kilowatts with a maximum range of 4km. It penentrates 5mm of steel.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10744

https://www.militarydrones.org.cn/ow5-laser-weapon-system-p00304p1.html

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2024 14:32 utc | 453

I think -B-s post is coming to pass.
I no longer see this as an Israeli invasion & takeover of “South” Lebanon. It’s a U.S. invasion (again) looking for take over of the entire Country, an addition to their Israeli military base.
I think they see their folly of small tripwire troops sprinkled all over ME and see a more viable alternative of an entirely occupied Western nation state with sea access & Syrian border control.
In any case, the killing of Iranian Officers as well will again set off the Iraqi resistance.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 14:33 utc | 454

“[U.S.] are driving everything in Ukraine and the Middle East and both Ukraine and Israel are their proxies. Furthering US interests.” @58
Bingo.

Posted by: lindaj | Oct 5 2024 14:36 utc | 455

193 ARCH BUNGLE – DIOLCH YN FAWR IAWN MANY MANY THANKS

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Oct 5 2024 14:42 utc | 456

RE: Posted by: circumspect | Oct 5 2024 14:29 utc | 451
I agree, there’s nothing in the mainstream news cycle outside the chatter from the U.S. that it needs to bomb Iran (or assist). No one in US is talking about the body bags that will be shipped back. Only the price of oil skyrocketing.
The disconnect between “war” and “death” in the West is mind boggling. The Empire has gotten very comfortable in others dying for them that they no longer even consider a possibility of a scratch on themselves.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 14:44 utc | 457

When all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail.
The God Of Mammon cult only has a hammer as it tries to maintain its mythical monotheism form of social organization. It is stuck not being able, let alone willing to negotiate with others as equals.
The top-of-the-heap barbarism bully is being brought down and our form of social organization will change but this sausage making process kills a lot of innocent people in the process. For someone like me watching it is quite painful and I hope this phase passes quickly.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 5 2024 14:44 utc | 458

If Hashem Safieddine actually died in a bunker strike, Israel has done Hizbullah a favor in eliminating stupidity from the leadership ranks.
The *safest* place for Hizbullah leadership is in Southern Lebanon where fighting against the IDF, or perhaps somewhere in Moscow or Beijing.

Posted by: Simpleton | Oct 5 2024 14:46 utc | 459

In reality it serves to discredit gulf states and Jordan though, no ?
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 13:14 utc | 433
I don’t see why Israeli propaganda discredits the gulf states and Jordan. The Israelis have been suggesting for years that the Arab states have abandoned the Palestinians to their fate. Inventing a story of convoys is just another round of that.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 5 2024 14:52 utc | 460

Hezbollah have specifically told people not to spread unverified sensational claims today. People will read those tweets in here and think they’re legit.
Sorry, not sure how to quote a post properly.
Posted by: Karl | Oct 5 2024 14:02 utc | 445
Supermensch69 does indeed look iffy. The account appears to have 10 total tweets (9 included in linked thread). Also, it has been suspended. That could indicate that it’s bogus, but not necessarily.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 5 2024 14:58 utc | 461

Why is Israel obsessed with more land? It needs to settle, occupy, employ, and birth more Jews. With enough Jews, it can be better protected (ie expanded) etc. Ultimately Greater Israel could have more Jews than Iran has Iranians.
Israel serves as a kind of Australian Penal Colony for Jews, where the Jews who are less successful than the Masters of the Universe can go play without dragging the Masters down. Jews don’t need Israel for criminal Jews because they become Masters or Cabinet Secretaries, but Jews do need it for the underachievers. (I know this firsthand because two of my friends moved there after failing to rise to the peaks of their respective professions.)
Judaism/Jewishness are excellent for Masters because early on they learn how to Connect with like minds and spin Narratives that bind inferiors to useless-to-them wars and such. Jews wrote the Torah aka Old Testament (and ‘converted’ Jews wrote the New Testament) which illustrates their myth weaving skills. But over time, the less successful Jews often find it useful to intermarry and convert to other religions. So the total number of Jews has never kept up with Jewish procreation, which itself has fallen as the remaining Jews are relatively richer and have fewer kids. The solution? An ever expanding Jewish Homeland for the underachievers.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Oct 5 2024 15:28 utc | 462

This is good news, I suppose, except for the fact that the S400s need to be installed and fully operational by, say, yesterday. I hope this is in fact the case.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 11:48 utc | 406
I suppose, they have been in Iran a long time ago. Iran has to be defended, and Russia knows that. It’d be interesting, if/when a US warship in the Mediterranean gets blown up.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 15:29 utc | 463

In China industry is not parasitised to create unelected political power as in the zionazi Jew-west. It’s just business and making things – if that is possible to imagine. And it’s taking over the world. The world simply can’t afford to parasitic profit for political power economic model of the Jew west, any more. That’s all being undermined day by day, hour by hour, and we will see its total catastrophic collapse in our lifetimes.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 5 2024 8:29 utc | 347
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OK, very clear.
Michael Hudson (I believe) has done calculations of or at least called out very specifically the vast scope of economic treasure the US as a country has lost to the profits creamed off at the top and not reinvested in the real economy. However, I don’t think he labels this as a Jewish-type economy.
Another problem that in theory could be solved is the offshoring of national wealth in tax havens, etc.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 15:31 utc | 464

Jews wrote the Torah aka Old Testament (and ‘converted’ Jews wrote the New Testament) which illustrates their myth weaving skills.
Posted by: Charles Peterson | Oct 5 2024 15:28 utc | 462
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This is the truth, that ‘converted’ Jews wrote the New Testament!

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 15:33 utc | 465

the vast scope of economic treasure the US as a country….
Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 15:31 utc | 464
What might be that “vast scope of economic treasure” of the US?

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 15:35 utc | 466

Muhammed 400
Troll. Stupidity reigns under Ziofascist tyranny of the Neocons.
One would hope that the US military are certain that the Neocons are both foreigners and mad. And that their job as professional soldiers is not to annoy their political superiors by giving them good advice.
Is to create achievable military objectives to satisfy the foam- flecked hyenas and Jackals of the Neocons, until they learn the hard way the stupidity and waste of their Nazi psychosis. As in Ukraine.
The Revisionist Zionist WW2 Nazis ‘ ears are blocked to good military advice.
Everybody knows that God blocked the insanity of the Zionist Rabbis who
opposed the Messiah AS. Everybody can see the Neocons failure to take Syria, Libya or Iraq into Greater Israel.
Bombing your enemy doesn’t create Empires, it creates enemies all over the world.
Every body knows the Islamic prophecy of Jewish Empire, but it will never happen until the Jews reject their totemistic belief in ownership of Palestine and accept the Messiah’s AS advice.
I suppose it is Christian Zionism that makes the ZioNazi Neocons believe in Mystery, empowerment by magic, success by bombing, bribing idiots and propaganda tripe.
It is impossible to build an Empire except on human shared belief.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 5 2024 15:37 utc | 467

@Jane | Oct 5 2024 0:11 utc | 227
On Palmyra:
It is one of the most important archaeological sites in the whole Levant.
A young Jordanian whom I met many years ago gave me a hardcover book just about Palmyra.
Palmyra is very important indeed. However, the relative importance of places such as Palmyra reflects the current archeological interpretations. There are countless other extremely important and incredibly ancient sites in the Levant, including Baalbek in Lebanon and Petra in Jordan just to name a couple.
But I agree it makes me sick when I hear Palmyra is subject to modern warfare.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 5 2024 8:08 utc | 341
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Glad you agree that the idea of bombing Palmyra makes you sick.
That was the main point.
Note my phrase in boldface.
Your corrections added basically nothing. ((;-))

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 15:38 utc | 468

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 5 2024 4:14 utc | 301
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 5 2024 4:40 utc | 304
and more..
capitalism subcontracts, the empire also subcontracts
the empire subcontracts its war against Russia via Ukraine and nato
and subcontracts the “reshaping of the Middle East”, and related genocides, via the Zionists
and since there is no nuclear power in the Middle East to rival the empire, the USA is less reluctant to get its hands dirty
Question to those who claim that Iran already possesses a nuclear weapon : what do you think Iran is waiting for to make this known?
it seems to me to be nothing more than a phantasm
new: it seems that France is now asking to stop sending weapons to Israel (but has it stopped sending them itself?)

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Oct 5 2024 15:38 utc | 469

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Oct 5 2024 11:02 utc | 388
You get my point.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 5 2024 15:45 utc | 470

@460 laguerre
Then where is the gulf state or Arab rebuttal ???

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 15:49 utc | 471

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
#Israel is sending messages to many civil org, preventing them from clearing the rubble in the suburbs of #Beirut, to make sure no one comes out alive from the morning explosion of 75 tonnes of explosives where Israel claims #Hezbollah Sayyed Hashem Safieddine was in a meeting.
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
The Israelis have told the Lebanese government that no rescue or rubble clearance teams will be allowed into the site in the suburbs of #Beirut where Sayyed Hashem Safieddine was targeted along with two of his bodyguards unless #Hezbollah first announces his death first.
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
If #Hezbollah announces the assassination of Sayyed Hachem Safieddine, the course of the battle in the south of #Lebanon – where the fate of Lebanon and the ME will be written – will not change an inch. The resistance is fighting the invaders regardless of who leads Hezbollah.

https://x.com/ejmalrai
This looks to be different to previous conflicts in the area.
I doubt the middle east is dependent on US elections but what is occurring now seems to be all or nothing for the US – a war to gain full control of the region which I assume the goal is total control of Persian Gulf oil. Part of Lavrov’s ‘Hybrid war’. WWIII in the age of nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 15:51 utc | 472

Ignatius was on PBS’ Washington Week last night, a program that has become just another propaganda cheerleader for imperial war since Jeffrey Goldberg took over as moderator. Ignatius said eliminating Hezbollah and restoring Christian and Sunni dominance of Lebanon was an opportunity and the goal of the American war lords. The way Ignatius framed the project he denied any recognition of Shiites, who represent about 40% of Lebanon’s population, the right to participate in their governance. The right to exist. The panel of liberal imperialists all accepted this revelation without objection.

Posted by: Keme | Oct 5 2024 15:55 utc | 473

Meanwhile helicopters are needed in Western North Carolina for search and rescue.
Where are they?
Posted by: Jane | Oct 4 2024 16:08 utc | 11
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Camp LeJeune NC, Fort Liberty, Fayetteville NC, Pope AFB NC, for starters. The US Navy parks its large fleet of helicopters at the US Naval Station Norfolk VA.
All close enough. FEMA is out of money and is obstructing local relief efforts.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 5 2024 15:55 utc | 474

@451 circumspect
“It appears the Gulf states will not allow the US to run missions off their territory.”
Almost guaranteed that they would allow if they felt threatened or were attacked. They have nothing else to keep their countries intact as they are, the rulers have no position of relevance in the alternative order. They would have accepted a merge of position at most.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 16:01 utc | 475

Now that we know Pezeshkian is compromised, can we stop referring to Raisi’s helicopter crash as an accident?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 5 2024 16:16 utc | 476

If indeed Saf-al-din has been assassinated along with several Iranian officers, then an Iranian counterstrike to the expected IDF strike (within the next 48 hours) is inevitable.
The IDF attacks on rescue teams in south Beruit are yet another war crime, but at this point you could write an 800 page book on the war crimes committed by the IDF in Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank and Gaza.
So expect a robust Iranian response……payback will be a bitch.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 16:42 utc | 477

After Operation Ukraine did not bring the desired success to those who determine US policy, Iran is now in the crosshairs.
Not only because the destruction of Iran has always been in the interests of Israel and therefore also of influential US-Jews, but also because Russia can trade overland to India via Iran. Hard times are coming for the mullahs. Better today than tomorrow they should conclude military assistance agreements with Xi. After the many completely pointless billions wasted in Ukraine, those who own the USA now need success.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 5 2024 16:49 utc | 478

Fingers crossed this disaster sinks Kamala.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 4 2024 19:54 utc | 106
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As regards helicopters, . . . . I’ve seen confirmation of this narrative elsewhere, but coupled with political agendas that make it, to my mind, a little less credible as a source.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 4 2024 21:40 utc | 172
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MSM is not covering Western NC. That may not sink Kamala.
X confirms in many postings government interference and lack of FEMA assistance. Mayorkas said FEMA is out of money. FEMA says it is doing fine.
The GOP could be held over a barrel with a CF resolution while NC, SC and TN suffer.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 5 2024 16:50 utc | 479

Then where is the gulf state or Arab rebuttal ???
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 15:49 utc | 472
You’re asking for a lot. Arab states don’t usually react on idiotic ideas floating around on the internet which were never close to reality. They haven’t reacted either on the subject of the other bonkers idea of a new Suez Canal from Gaza to Eilat climbing up over the top of a mountain range. It ain’t worth it. These things are just intended to keep people thinking how wonderful Israel, and how stupid the Arabs are.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 5 2024 16:51 utc | 480

On the US’s Christian Evangelists role in making policy I have to wonder if some commenters have ever known any? They tend to be lower class and completely unable
to buy politicians and influence. They almost act as cover for the wealthy Zionists
who can and do.
Posted by: qparker | Oct 5 2024 13:30 utc | 437
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I don’t think the XEvans have their own big donor base.
Not that I know of.
Although they do collect quite a lot of $$ from the small donations of parishioners (which in IMO is truly craven; these generally poor, uneducated people). I saw a documentary about this.
I think the role of the XEvangelists is that their reps in Congress are also XEvangelicals and they are just as dependent on AIPAC money as everyone else.
IMO, though, many (including Jews) stress the role of the XEvans as a way to deflect from spotlighting the role of Jews. Others go along with this because they don’t want to be tarred with the antisemite label.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 17:02 utc | 481

@ Eighthman 92. If you are interested in just how wide rangeing and ubiquitous the Israel lobby is, read Mearsheimers’ book on the subject. It’s an eye opener…

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Oct 5 2024 17:03 utc | 482

As quoted in recent WSWS article on Germany’s latest responses to Mid-East violence, political figures there are jumping on the notions of western intervention to enforce military authoritarianism in the region, as expressed by Ignatius and others in US, and doing so with a high degree of belligerence.
Here is Roderich Kiesewetter, tied to CDU:
“”(Israel) is creating the opportunity for a new security structure in the Middle East by weakening the terrorist regime in Iran and significantly destroying the Iranian tentacles Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthi… this is an opportunity for a new beginning and stabilization…
to show a presence and stand united as Europe by investing in the building of the state in Lebanon… It is prudent not to engage in exclusionary activities with a view to a future peace arrangement in the Middle East. Even the involvement of German soldiers should not be ruled out, even if that is still a long way off.”
Die Welt editor-in-chief Ulf Poschardt has apparently described Netanyahu as the “avant-garde of the West… a role model, especially for those cowardly, self-confident representatives of the West who encourage the enemies in Moscow, Beijing, Tehran or Ankara to reach out.”
(In Canada, similar calls to war in support of Israel’s genocidal rampage are being made, particularly in the National Post. Something extremely ugly is being triggered in the rules-based order)

Posted by: jayc | Oct 5 2024 17:07 utc | 483

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
#Israel is sending messages to many civil org, preventing them from clearing the rubble in the suburbs of #Beirut, to make sure no one comes out alive from the morning explosion of 75 tonnes of explosives where Israel claims #Hezbollah Sayyed Hashem Safieddine was in a meeting.
. . .
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 15:51 utc | 473
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How can Israel dictate what people do in South Beirut?
Are the Israelis in control on the ground there?

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 17:08 utc | 484

Of course in response to he child-murderers avoiding rescue teams from helping victims of their strikes, Hezbollah should send an order of “No prisioners” and execute all the child-murderers they found, and also prevent any medevac in any place of Occupied Palestine by all means.
Total war for both sides

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:10 utc | 485

the vast scope of economic treasure the US as a country….
Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 15:31 utc | 464
What might be that “vast scope of economic treasure” of the US?
Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 15:35 utc | 467
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If you can’t understand this simple point I don’t think I can help you. Perhaps someone else will try.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 17:12 utc | 486

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 15:31 utc | 464
What might be that “vast scope of economic treasure” of the US?
Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 15:35 utc | 467
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If you can’t understand this simple point I don’t think I can help you. Perhaps someone else will try.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 17:12 utc | 487
I can. There’s “no vast scope of economic treasure” of the US,” a country that might fail any given time. No one can help the US, can they?

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 17:17 utc | 487

@485 “How can Israel dictate what people do in South Beirut?”
Israel can send drones and bombers to kill rescue workers any time they want to. So yes. For now they are in control.

Posted by: golddigger | Oct 5 2024 17:24 utc | 488

Posted by: jayc | Oct 5 2024 17:07 utc | 484
That, exactly, is European Colonialism.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 17:35 utc | 489

@481 laguerre
Though I understand what you are saying, in reality there are various serious reports of complicity between Arab states and “Israel” (and those apart from declared official complicity) . The most obvious if I remember correctly was by a Jordanian reporter who was then disappeared. In that she outlined facts, figures and participants. None of these have been addressed in the slightest, all were basically erased from view. You know as well as I do there is narrative control in the middle east, and to simply dismiss all reports as unfounded or unworthy is exactly that occurs. I don’t push or try to make a point of this, as those are ‘not my countries’ to take issue with – but the veracity of reports by the like of Suhaib cannot just be flushed into that reality either.
On similar theme :
Ayman Hanideq Journalist
“Statement issued by the Hezbollah Media Relations :
Some media outlets publish news attributed to sources in Hezbollah regarding the fate of Hezbollah officials following the brutal raids on the southern suburb, the latest of which is Agence France-Presse, which attributed its news to senior sources in Hezbollah.
We would like to reiterate that we do not have ‘sources’ in Hezbollah, and our position is issued in an official statement issued by the Media Relations in Hezbollah.
Some media outlets, especially a number of websites, have also published false news and worthless rumors regarding the organizational status of a number of senior Hezbollah officials, which fall within the framework of the psychological warfare against the resistance audience by those who have harnessed their pens, tongues and positions in the service of the Zionist occupation.
Saturday 5-10-2024
01 Rabi’ al-Thani 1446 AH”
It is all a very dificult territory to navigate and still remain objective.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 17:55 utc | 490

@491 Correction: “… and to simply dismiss all reports as unfounded or unworthy is exactly” [how] “that occurs…”

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 18:00 utc | 491

I can. There’s “no vast scope of economic treasure” of the US,” a country that might fail any given time. No one can help the US, can they?
Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 17:17 utc | 488
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Obviously you are not familiar with Hudson’s work.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 18:03 utc | 492

Thank you Arch Bungle for those 25 self-defeating achievements of “Israel”, an interesting read. I also copied it, the post details, and the link to it.
And it came in before the thread hijack which Norwegian defeated and won 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 5 2024 18:45 utc | 493

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Posted by: circumspect | Oct 5 2024 14:29 utc | 452
S-400… How well have they performed against Ukraine?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 5 2024 19:24 utc | 494

Correction: “… and to simply dismiss all reports as unfounded or unworthy is exactly” [how] “that occurs…”
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 5 2024 18:00 utc | 492
Of course I’m not as simplistic as you evidently are, and I don’t do what you claim I do. Jordan’s a country I know pretty well, though more in the past than today, if you want to take that example. I haven’t got the time to give you an hour’s lecture on the subject. Yes, Abdallah does collaborate with Israel. Essentially he doesn’t really have a choice, though his father managed to avoid having to do it, but then He was a much finer politician. Personally I think at the end of his life, Hussein made the wrong choice of successor, but his brother Hasan would not have suited either. The basis of the problem os that Jordan has no resources and cannot pay for its government. Been like that since 48 or before the 2WW. therefore it must seek outside subventions. First the British, then after 56 might have been Egypt, then after 67 Saudi and the Gulf. Now the US, and you can imagine the Americans impose conditions, and what the conditions are. Abdallah can’t get out of it even if he wanted to – indeed he’s under very severe internal pressure, from the Palestinians and the East Bankers, and particularly now with the threats to al-Aqsa. The secret police, al-mukhabarat, is very effective, but the argument I think they use in public is that if we let the jihadis in, to attack Israel, then the country will be in confusion, and your standard of living will drop like a stone. Do you want that, or are you prepared to give up your principles vis-à-vis the Palestinians? But it’s a very close thing, and if they go ahead and damage al-Aqsa, I would say it would very likely boil over.
Do you want more? The positions of the Gulf states is not the same, but for those who signed, I think they’re beginning to figure out that the US lied to them on behalf of Israel. I believe Bahrein is already said to have suspended its agreement to the “Abraham” accords.
Have a nice weekend…

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 5 2024 19:51 utc | 495

What about the PFLP?
Here’s a few songs by Muslimgauze.
Hamas Arc (1993) [FULL ALBUM]
Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 5 2024 7:12 utc | 332
Well.. they’re Marxist? And Muslimgauze kinda sucks compared to Esplendor Geometrico. You should check out Aigel. https://aigel.bandcamp.com/track/–49

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:02 utc | 496

As regards helicopters, . . . . I’ve seen confirmation of this narrative elsewhere, but coupled with political agendas that make it, to my mind, a little less credible as a source.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 4 2024 21:40 utc | 172
Are you referring to Elon”s “boiling” tweet? Because I agree re: his political agenda.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 5 2024 20:07 utc | 497

Iran has closed its airspace & withdrawn ships in advance of imminent Israeli attack
https://t.me/intelslava/67882

Posted by: Mary | Oct 5 2024 20:11 utc | 498

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 5 2024 19:51 utc | 496 “Essentially he doesn’t really have a choice, though his father managed to avoid having to do it, but then He was a much finer politician.”
His father, King Hussein? Didn’t he helicopter into Israel to meet secretly with Israeli PMs from time to time?
One such meeting:
On September 25, 1973, a few days before the outbreak of the Yom Kippur War, Prime Minister Golda Meir famously met with King Hussein of Jordan at a Mossad facility outside of Tel Aviv. The meeting took place at the urgent request of the king who wanted to show Israel intelligence regarding Syria’s intentions to launch a war…

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 5 2024 20:12 utc | 499

Posted by: Jane | Oct 5 2024 17:12 utc | 487
I missed this earlier post, but the “the vast scope of economic treasure the US as a country….” is already mortgaged to the hilt: https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 20:22 utc | 500