White House To Meddle In Lebanese Policies - Provoking More Bombings
David Ignatius, the CIA's and administration's spokesperson at the Washington Post, is peddling one of these day's most stupid ideas:
The U.S. has an opportunity to help rebuild Lebanese sovereignty - (archived)
Israel’s decapitation of Hezbollah has created a security vacuum.
The Biden administration’s diplomacy has failed to restrain Israel and de-escalate the Middle East conflict over the past year. But the administration has a new opportunity for constructive engagement: helping the Lebanese Armed Forces fill the void left by a collapsing Hezbollah and reestablish the Lebanese government’s sovereignty.
To start a column with a lies shows the way it will go. The Biden administration has not 'failed to restrain' Israel but has urged it to peruse its attacks on Hizbullah:
Presidential adviser Amos Hochstein and Brett McGurk, the White House coordinator for the Middle East, told top Israeli officials in recent weeks that the U.S. agreed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s broad strategy to shift Israel’s military focus to the north against Hezbollah in order to convince the group to engage in diplomatic talks to end the conflict, the officials told POLITICO.
The Lebanese Armed Forces, which Ignatius wants to promote, have a nominal strength of some 80,000 men. But, thanks to U.S. influence over it, they is only lightly armed, little trained and of no use against any serious enemy. The LAF's fighting value in quantity and quality is well below that of Hizbullah's cadres.
Ignatius is dreaming:
Israel’s decapitation of Hezbollah — culminating in the killing of Hasan Nasrallah last week — has created a security vacuum in Lebanon. The shellshocked lower ranks of Hezbollah undoubtedly hope to fill the void. But for the first time in a generation, there’s a real chance that the LAF takes control of the nation’s security and its borders, with proper assistance.
'A collapsing Hizbullah' is a wet dream of imperialist and Zionist but has nothing to do with reality. Just ask the Israeli forces which, in recent days, tried to infiltrate into southern Lebanon. The alleged 'security vacuum' hit them with all its might:
Israeli forces were struck with rockets on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Odaisseh on Thursday afternoon, one of the towns where troops fell into a bloody ambush just a day earlier.A Hezbollah guided-missile attack also hit a Merkava tank in the Natoa settlement not long before.
“When an Israeli enemy infantry force attempted to infiltrate towards the cemetery of the town of Yaroun, the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance detonated a Sejil explosive device at the advancing force at 12:00 noon on Thursday 10-3-2024, killing and wounding them,” Hezbollah said earlier, marking its 21st statement on 3 October.
Hezbollah announced shortly before that its fighters “detonated an explosive device at 12:00 noon on Thursday 10-3-2024 with a force from the Golani Brigade in the Tartira area in the town of Maroun al-Ras, which was trying to bypass the western side of the town.”
The members of the Golani Brigade force were killed or wounded, the Hezbollah statement added.
Over the last days the 'security vacuum' also managed to fire hundreds of missiles onto the Zionist colony:
Sirens sounded in Israel's Haifa, Carmel foot hills and the Hadera region, including - for the first time since the war began, in Caesarea, An affluent seaside community where Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu owns a private residence.
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Hezbollah attacked northern Israel including the cities of Haifa and Acre repeatedly since the early morning hours. Rockets also landed in the Upper Galilee causing damage but no injuries.
The White House thinking, it seems, is not impeded by any reality:
The Biden administration sees a “massive opportunity” in Lebanon, a senior official told me this week. But to help Lebanon regain sovereignty, the Biden administration will have to move quickly and decisively while Hezbollah is still in disarray.The Pentagon has been rehearsing for this role for several decades through its support program for the LAF. Less than four months ago, the Pentagon hosted the LAF’s commander, Gen. Joseph Aoun, in Washington and at Centcom headquarters in Florida.
“Biden administration officials want the LAF to prepare a force that could potentially deploy near the border to monitor a future buffer zone negotiated between Israel and Hezbollah,” Al-Monitor news organization reported at the time of Aoun’s visit in mid-June.
The LAF forces are already deployed near the border. They are not very friendly with Israeli forces which routinely kills them:
Two Lebanese army soldiers were killed in separate Israeli strikes on south Lebanon on Thursday, the military said as Hezbollah said it repelled Israeli troops trying to cross the border.The army said in a statement that a soldier was killed in an Israeli strike on a military post in the Bint Jbeil area, adding that soldiers fired back at the source of the fire.
A military official told AFP that this was the first response to Israeli fire since last October because the post had been “directly” hit.
It was the second Lebanese soldier to be killed by Israeli strikes on Thursday.
The army had announced earlier in the day that a soldier “was killed and another was wounded as a result of an aggression by the Israeli enemy during an evacuation and rescue operation with the Lebanese Red Cross in Taybeh village.”
To support his dream Ignatius cites a long discredited Lebanese neo-conservative:
Michael Young, a veteran Lebanese journalist, explained the dynamics after Nasrallah’s death in a post Sunday for the Carnegie Endowment’s Diwan website. He juxtaposed Hezbollah’s “logic of resistance” with “the logic of the state” and said the latter “imposes itself on a country that has been carried into a catastrophe by an armed group that has disregarded the Lebanese state.”Young wrote that in the view of many Lebanese, “the single national institution that retains credibility and widespread popular endorsement is the Lebanese army.”
Unlike Ignatius, Young himself sees no plausible way to put the Lebanese army on top of the state. The most influential politician in Lebanon is the current speaker of the parliament, Nabih Berri. His Amal party is allied with Hizbullah and depends on its votes. Without Berri's support, Young writes, any change in the distribution of power in Lebanon is inconceivable.
But Ignatius insists that the impossible is doable or at least worth a try:
[R]ebuilding the Lebanese state behind a strong army — supported by a population that is sick of Hezbollah’s violent fantasy of resistance — is an achievable goal. It will require disciplined American effort and political will. But it’s a worthy task for Joe Biden’s final months in office and for his successor.
So let's send the Marines to prop up the LAF and let's manipulated the country's policies through bribes from the U.S. embassy.
Some thirty years ago the U.S. attempted to do such stupid things. In consequence its embassy got blown up as were the Marine's barracks.
Why someone believes that it is smart to now follow a similar strategy, and to thereby likely provoke a similar outcome, is well beyond me.
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Added: Ignatius' column is, apparently, not a fluke. Axios just posted this:
Scoop: U.S. wants to use Hezbollah's weakness to elect new Lebanese president
The stupidity - it hurts.
Posted by b on October 4, 2024 at 15:35 UTC | Permalink
next page »The Yankee Carperbaggers and their Money-Changers, after bombing your house offer to come and "help you."
These Criminals, bereft of humanity, are drunk on their own "Narratives".
Posted by: kupkee | Oct 4 2024 15:53 utc | 2
They just want to create chaos and destroy another country for Israel.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 4 2024 15:53 utc | 3
Let's consider the unthinkable:
Why shouldn't Israel, in desperation, hit Lebanon with a low yield neutron weapon? Just one as a demonstration? What would happen in response? I think, after a pause, the US would support it, as with, 'we don't like it it but they felt they had to do it.... blah, blah'. Europe are cowards and vassals who would keep quiet about it - or at least not sanction Israel or take any significant action. So, they get away with it. Do Iran or Arab states then rush to build a bomb?
In an all out war, Iran could simply load missiles with 'dirty' materials and every one shot down contaminates Israel for decades. Rafsanjani thought ruining Palestine might be OK in the longer context, with martyrdom, or even absorbing nuclear hits, as long as Islam won in the end.
I'm sorry for such speculations but we never get any hint of good sense or moderation coming from either Israel or Ukraine, nor do protestations from the US mean anything. So, the extreme path continues. How far will it go?
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 15:54 utc | 4
Thanks for the posting b....I live in captured stupid land....
I do still believe that our civilization war proxy battles in Occupied Palestine and Ukraine are coming to climax.....before the November US (s)election.
As I have written before, I see this as an attempt to evolve our species beyond pure barbarism and monotheistic hegemony into something "better". What sort of social organization sausage changes will come out of our civilization war?....stay tuned.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2024 15:55 utc | 5
The USMC landing dock ships near Cyprus covered by USAF and RAF likely have two battalions of infantry, backed by attack hellostand skipjet F-35’s. Targets for MANPADS, ATGM, and ambush.
Not much, but an expensive tripwire to put US force in Israel to get involved.
Posted by: paddy | Oct 4 2024 15:58 utc | 6
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2024 15:55 utc | 5
Unfortunately our species is not well structured to survive a nuclear war
Posted by: Mario | Oct 4 2024 15:59 utc | 8
The WaPo's David Ignatious is a longtime trusted stenographer for the US State Department/CIA.
Believe what he says as you would anything coming out of the mouths of either US Secretary of State Antony Blinkin or CIA Director William Burns.
[Fide' Nemini! Trust No One!]
Posted by: Packard | Oct 4 2024 16:00 utc | 9
Yes, the hubris, the stupidity, the immorality, the ghoulishness. . .
Meanwhile helicopters are needed in Western North Carolina for search and rescue.
Where are they?
In the Ukraine? On Cypress? On an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea?
Ignatius's extraordinary revelations about DC's dreams does serve a sort of purpose, though.
His statement that "they" have been preparing for this for decades seems to me to make it pretty clear who is driving the Big ME Mess, and why.
The DC Deep State mycelium (including the Zionist fungus) that has sent its threads into every corner of the US govt, transforming it into a regime.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 4 2024 16:08 utc | 10
Re: Groupthink
We are observing a stereotypic example of Groupthink among the Genociders. Evidentially, no dissenting views are allowed in their meetings. The discrespency between the reality on the ground and their policy pronouncements is enormous.
BTW - Merkava tally 217 “destroyed” and ~653 “damaged/disabled”
The IDF conscripts and weekend warriors can barely hold the ground they stand on.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2024 16:15 utc | 11
Good post from our host.
Trying to translate from diplomatic/propaganda, it seems the idea is supposed to be to enlist the Lebanese Army in an attack on the rather significant proportion of the country that supports Hezbollah. The claim Hezbollah "blocked" initiatives for a sufficiently subordinate Lebanese government failed because they were attempts to exclude the, again, rather large portion of the Lebanese people supporting (and supported by, incidentally) Hezbollah. The plan is now not for a diplomatic/political arrangement, but a violent civil war against any forces daring to assert an independent Lebanon. In my view, neither the Lebanese state in its narrow bureaucratic self-interest, nor the Lebanese people as a whole have any interest served by submission to US/Israel, in being "North Jordan."
Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 4 2024 16:15 utc | 12
🇺🇸🇮🇱🇱🇧⚡️ White House wants to "take advantage" of Israel's "massive blow" to Hezbollah "to push for an election of a new Lebanese president" in the coming days — Axioshttps://t.me/intelslava/67816
Regime change is needed in the US, not Lebanon. Unfortunately, none of the 'alternatives' in the US will be good for Palestine or Lebanon.
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 4 2024 16:16 utc | 13
Stupidity reigns supreme in DC. Meanwhile, I provided the following in "Dedollarization Discussed at Russia's Security Council", (hat-tip Simplicius):
I found the exact quotes (https://english.news.cn/20241003/9ed1ef8a2572491abca18736bce8f761/c.html…): on top of Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Minister telling Iran’s president that he wanted to "permanently close the chapter on our differences", he also called Iran's strikes on Israel "retaliatory attacks" (meaning they were justified) and said Saudi Arabia "trusted Iran's wisdom and discernment in managing the situation and contributing to the restoration of calm and peace in the region". [Emphasis Original]
Outlaw US Empire West Asia policy is sunk as with Russia and China it's driven the Iranians and Arabs together.
IMHO the child-murderers won't attack Iran with planes, Iran has demonstrate they are good at making missiles, and that surely include AD missiles; they have also S-400's ready, with probably a few hundreds ruskies fully embedded with the iranian operators to "train" and "coach" them, and surely receiving accurate information from the IRS of Mother Russian in real time, and also the iranian have been preparing for this show from decades, so they would have many dozens or even hundreds of radar stations in the western part of the country, so the child-murderers' planes would be detected early and without an extensive SEAD air campaign with many cruise and ballistic missiles shot during weeks to "soft" the AD (as in Desert Storm or 2003 Irak invasion) they will never dare to lose their precious child-killing planes against a intact and modern AD.
I think the child-murderers will retaliate with missiles fired from submarines and/or from missiles fired from Occupied Palestine, but I am not sure the child-murderers have much power/capacity with this type of systems, I have never seen that they used them.
The other option, of course, is the ziopuppets wearing american uniforms attack Iran with some help from the child-murderers (not the opposite) and them the hell will fall-down on the poor GI's in the ME
Posted by: Dave | Oct 4 2024 16:23 utc | 15
Surely an expected move, given the divide and rule proclivity of the USUK and the decades of divisions internal to Lebanon. The Gulf vassals will be asked to do their part too, with the political clans they’ve been funding and nurturing in Lebanon.
Are the political clans that rule Lebanon wise enough to realize that way lies ruin, even for “friends” of the world empire of lies?
Posted by: Caliman | Oct 4 2024 16:25 utc | 16
@14
The Iranians with Iraqi Shi’a are 110 million people!
They are aligned and working together since Obama’s Daesh escapades. Sunni ought to begin to see!
Posted by: paddy | Oct 4 2024 16:28 utc | 17
I almost forgot a very powerful point that Wolff recently made that speaks volumes. Why is Israel obsessed with more land?
Since when is agriculture a top priority for modern governments? (it isn't). Why doesn't Israel build high rises? Does Luxemburg demand more land from Germany or France? What is the point?
The point is religious fanaticism.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 16:28 utc | 18
Shifting Lebanon to a military dictatorship would be in line with longstanding US practice. The US sends Egypt billions in "aid" every year, and hundreds of millions to Jordan, as well as selling weapons to the Saudis, etc at cut rate prices with generous financing. Some of this "aid" is banked by the dictators, with the rest being used to keep Arab nations from standing up to crush the Zionist entity.
Posted by: Awl | Oct 4 2024 16:29 utc | 19
Regime change is needed in the US, not Lebanon. . . .
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 4 2024 16:16 utc | 14
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Succinctly put, and so sadly true.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 4 2024 16:31 utc | 20
@ karlof1 15
I caution you to not trust the Saudis or the Emiratis. Iranian missile attack has placed the fear of allah in all of these faux-kingdoms. They have realized that they are helpless should Iran point their missiles at them. Hence, the conciliatory statements.
Iran wants good relations with the regional actors, but they know who these people are and will not trust them as far as they can throw them.
Having said that, the FM statements are a huge boost for Iran in the region and a disappointment for the zionists.
Posted by: Alpi | Oct 4 2024 16:34 utc | 21
Like with Ukraine, the middle east show might take a few years to play out. As per karlof1 @15, The area is uniting, slowly, but with Russia China help -something the Americans will not beat.
I assume US/Israel are cooking up some form of strike or strikes against Iran - against its leadership most likely so just a matter of waiting...
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 4 2024 16:40 utc | 22
Al-Mansar Live Feed:
Islamic Resistance fighters clash with Israeli occupation soldiers attempting to infiltrate into the Lebanese border town of Yaroun: statement
19:05 Hezbollah targets gatherings of Israeli soldiers in Maroun plain, Avivim and Kfar Giladi as well as Katzrin base and Hatzor settlement with large missile barrages: statements
18:55 Islamic Resistance targets a gathering of IOF near Al-Baghdadi site with a large missile barrage: statement
18:45 Islamic Resistance bombards Israeli occupation’s Nafeh base with a missile barrage: statement
18:23 Two Israeli Soldiers Killed: Iraq’s Islamic Resistance Strikes 3 Israeli Occupation Positions in Golan, Tiberias (Video) More..
17:32 Islamic Resistance targets an Israeli soldier force in west of Yaroun with artillery shells and a missile barrage: statement
17:30 Islamic Resistance targets a gathering of Israeli soldiers and vehicles in east of Doviv settlement with a missile barrage: statement
17:29 Islamic Resistance targets a gathering of Israeli soldiers and vehicles in Karmiel settlement with a missile barrage: statement
15:51 Israeli media quoted Metula mayor as saying: Heavy damage after 50 rockets fired from Lebanon fell in the ‘town’
Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2024 16:49 utc | 23
Bibi couldn’t care less about the IDF ground pounders being ordered to their deaths at the Lebanese border. These poor saps aren’t Askanazi, so Bibi considers them expendable
Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2024 16:51 utc | 24
Alpi | Oct 4 2024 16:34 utc | 22--
Thanks for your reply. One aspect of relations between Iran/UAE/Saudis is their work at BRICS that from the outside seems quite healthy and normal. Look at the meeting that occurred that generated the citation and how the relations between all those actors has radically changed over the last three years. Yes, at root it's all about business, but who are the most trusted business partners nowadays? Not the West in any manner whatsoever. Geoeconomics is driving Geopolitics in the world today as the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals show they're now incapable of doing business since they're no longer trustworthy.
Larry C. Johnson: Iran's MASSIVE
RETALIATION if Israel Dares to
Strike! - Ukraine on the Brink!
At 10:10 Larry discusses the plan to assassinate the leader of Hezbollah.
https://www.youtube.com/live/O0pxP5nhIE0?si=yAarJR40vzwo5nnc
For a second time. Again! The West has engaged in peace negotiations with a senior military commander in order to gain the opportunity to assassinate him.
West Asia has yet to grasp that it's dangerous to even talk to these people.
I like the bio on Larry. Comments?
"Larry C. Johnson is a veteran of
the CIA and the State Department's
Office of Counter Terrorism. He is the founder and managing partner of BERG Associates, which was established in 1998.
Larry provided training to the US Military's Special Operations community for 24 years. He has been vilified by the right and the left, which means he must be doing something right."
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 4 2024 17:02 utc | 26
After talking about the Iranian attack as a brazen and unacceptable escalation, State Department Spokesman Matthew Miller was asked by the press if he considered anything Israel has done in the past three weeks escalatory. Miller ridiculously refused to acknowledge any escalatory behavior on Israel’s part, saying instead that Israel had merely “done things to expand the conflict” in order to fight terrorism.
We’ve been seeing similarly bizarre linguistic gymnastics from the mainstream press since Israel began its invasion of Lebanon, with the mass media instead using phrases like “raids”, “ground offensive”, “ground operation”, and “Israel Enters Lebanon” in its headlines in order to avoid the word “invasion”. This is the same media class that used to ridicule Russia for calling its invasion of Ukraine a “special military operation”.
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That’s right, kids: Iran’s attacks “escalate”; Israel’s attacks “expand the conflict”. Lebanon’s attacks are “terrorism”; Israel’s attacks are “self-defense”. Russia launched an “invasion”; Israel launched a “limited ground operation”. Destroying Gaza is a “response to October 7”; October 7 was “unprovoked”. When their guys do it it’s bad, when our guys do it it’s cool.
Hypocrisy runs rife throughout the western empire because the western empire is not what it pretends to be. It pretends to stand for peace and stability when it really stands for war and domination. It pretends to stand for human rights when it really stands for tyranny and abuse. It pretends to stand for truth and justice when it really stands for lies and propaganda.
This is the dystopia we were born into, and it’s got us on a trajectory toward somewhere very bad. Buckle up.
Posted by: HandSignals4TheBlind | Oct 4 2024 17:05 utc | 28
"@ karlof1 15
I caution you to not trust the Saudis or the Emiratis. Iranian missile attack has placed the fear of allah in all of these faux-kingdoms. They have realized that they are helpless should Iran point their missiles at them. Hence, the conciliatory statements.
Iran wants good relations with the regional actors, but they know who these people are and will not trust them as far as they can throw them.
Having said that, the FM statements are a huge boost for Iran in the region and a disappointment for the zionists."
Posted by: Alpi | Oct 4 2024 16:34 utc | 22
That's a good comment. I think we can trust the Saudis to always put the Saudis first. So some caution and realism are certainly called for.
At the same time I think the Saudis see an opportunity for themselves going forward globally. I guess I would say a place to position themselves.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 4 2024 17:08 utc | 29
Britain and America are powerfully assaulting Yemen at this moment.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2024 17:13 utc | 30
The LAF is no match for Hezbollah - and it may even secretly support Hamas - if not, I don't see it coming into conflict with it.
On Berri.
"Nabih Berri and the Amal movement had significant support among Shi'a in Lebanon, but that the movement is rife with corruption saying that "Amal is near universally derided as corrupt to the core, but it is also considered the only alternative for moderate, secular Shia.
Berri was described as giving social services in the south only through "wheeling, dealing, and stealing",[9] and that Berri receives US$400,000 a month from Iran, using a fourth of the sum to shore up his support and pocketing the rest.[10][11][12]
Amal was declining as its supporters turned to Hezbollah. Berri was allegedly grooming his son to be the leader of Amal, and expelled other popular candidates who could have posed problems for him."
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Lebanon
Lebanon is surely deeply infiltrated by the British and Americans, I think the latter has a huge military base/embassy, eight miles South of Beirut.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 4 2024 17:15 utc | 31
"...
... 15:51 Israeli media quoted Metula mayor as saying: Heavy damage after 50 rockets fired from Lebanon fell in the ‘town’"
Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2024 16:49 utc | 24
Regarding your excellent work on tank statistics, it seems we've entered a stage now where you're going to have to be making Battlefield damage (BDA?) estimates. Are you seeing a lot of video?
I'm curious how much video Hezbollah is keeping under wraps at the moment. I also haven't heard anything about EW either.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 4 2024 17:16 utc | 32
"But this time it's different!"
Slow learners seem to prevail in the state department.
Posted by: jpc | Oct 4 2024 17:16 utc | 33
Obviously the Western brokers in power have nothing right when it comes to the region. Stupidity does hurt others but death takes the pain away. If their desire is to create death, destruction, poverty, disablity then they got it right. Another average day for the Death Cult.
Posted by: circumspect | Oct 4 2024 17:19 utc | 35
Publicly, Italy says its not arming Israel, privately it is.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 4 2024 17:22 utc | 36
Prime Minister Trudeau and Canadian Political Establishment Back Israeli Attack on Iran
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/10/04/ssod-o04.html
"Canadian imperialism has been fully on board every step of the way with Israel's rampage across the Middle East as it functions as an attack dog for the United States and its allies..."
CrossTalk: Apocalypse Maybe
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/605194-middle-east-crisis-biden-fail/
"We are told Joe Biden is frustrated by Israel. The White House is reportedly realizing that it may be unable to prevent a regional war in the Middle East.
Meanwhile, tens of thousands are being killed. Why is the West so indifferent to diplomacy?
CrossTalking with Marwa Osman, Hicham Safieddine and Romana Rubeo.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 4 2024 17:23 utc | 37
"In an all out war, Iran could simply load missiles with 'dirty' materials and every one shot down contaminates Israel for decades."
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 15:54 utc | 4
As you might expect that's been researched by The Americans. It works within a very limited area but isn't a very effective weapon.
You might compare it to Russia's new Fab 9000. It seems to take out an entire city block having a huge wave along the ground and mushroom cloud like look to it.
A number of people have been speculating about Iran's decision to launch it s attack at night. It was seen by people across the region. Had they launched during the day it would not have had the same psychological effect. The party is always pretty awesome when you have fireworks.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 4 2024 17:29 utc | 38
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 4 2024 17:08 utc | 30
What you and Karlof is missing is the Iranian's went to Oman first to let them know what they were doing.
I think it was a day or 2 before the strike. Hence, the statement by the arabs.
Of course they were alright with it, if the arabs and others have to sign off on it first.
When they start to uncontrollably move up the escalation ladder due to the Israelis response. It will be different. Iran will need to take steps they will not agree with and will not be given the heads up beforehand.
Russia's idea to keep everybody informed and thus going to Oman first as Russian advisors flew in also. You could probably bet on it.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 17:29 utc | 39
"Israel's "massive blow" to Hezbollah" is as mentioned by: 'Norwegian | Oct 4 2024 16:16 utc | 14', is as follows:
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/retreating-israeli-personnel-carrier-abandon
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Oct 4 2024 17:30 utc | 40
@Eighthman #4
Be more clear with your speculation: where would this neutron bomb be targeted? Beirut? The Bekaa Valley?
Beirut would be not only a war crime, it would be the last straw for the Middle East. Regimes would fall, starting with Egypt and Jordan and ending with Israel's end. Even money whether Erdogan could turn on a dime fast enough to stay ahead of the mob.
The Bekaa Valley is relatively low population - killing all the people and making the irrigation pipes and tractors, radioactive is not going to do anything except convince everyone in the region that Israel needs to go away. Hezbollah has no mustering points or giant ordnance depots for Israel to hit with a nuke.
What I see is an IDF that has laid down the law: there will be no headlong rush into a land war in south Lebanon. The IDF forced Mossad to empty out its toolbox and is now probing to see just how ugly a south Lebanon incursion would be, even after the "decapitation" and the "comms booby traps" has supposedly thrown Hezbollah into disarray.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 4 2024 17:33 utc | 41
"Denouncing Iran as a “terrorist regime,” Trudeau told reporters, “Obviously, Israel has the right to defend itself against these attacks.” "
John Gilberts (38).
The above is from your link - I recall not that long ago a WWII Nazi, getting a standing ovation from the Canadian parliament - of course Trudeau is propping up a Neo-Nazi ran regime in Ukraine.
As for the Zionists having the right to defend themselves, they don't, the UN classes Gaza as occupied lands - in which the Zionists have no right to defend themselves - indeed Israel is an occupying force - of which the UN states, in at least two resolutions - that the occupied people, have a right to take up arms and evict their oppressors.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 4 2024 17:33 utc | 42
Jane @ 11
You aren't seeing private helicopters in North Carolina because the feds are not allowing them. Large numbers of helicopters are there and would be used for rescue. Nein. Fed is trying to prevent survey/reconaissance by private drone. This is not entirely possible to prevent, they are doing as much as they can to stop it.
The rednecks are deplorable and irredeemable. Hilary recently doubled down on that, emphasising the irredeemable part. God's mercy does not hold sway over Hilary's Wrath. Understand that the government, the lords, the Democrats arenot merely passively dismissive of the populace. They actively want to hurt us. They take great pleasure in our pain.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 4 2024 17:33 utc | 43
The noose is gradually, but strongly tightening on the fake state in Occupied Palestine. Meanwhile the fake Boobtoob Noose still retains a large fraction of the population in the Ruptured Republic. However, even amongst college miseducated American females, there is a slow but growing uncertainty about a reality which they have assiduously avoided.
Talmudist dominated $tate Department spokescritters are still peddling their unmitigated garbage as a holding action while a FALSE-FLAG incident is being prepared in order to bring the straying herd in the U$$A back under fake news domination and control.
Until the U$N ABRAHAM LINCOLN is forthwith removed from dangerous waters in the Arabian Sea; I$raeli submarines may well have been given orders to sink it. Of course, the trained seals in the Ma$$ Media of Mi$information and mindfuckery will screech out to the high heavens, as dictated by their Talmudi$t owners. Yes, there can be little doubt that the highly symbolic icon, the Abraham Lincoln, is being considered as False-Flag target #1.
Five THOUSAND American sailors on the ABE, dying for the Talmudi$t world-control schemes, are but a small price to be extracted in order to fulfill the 2,500 year Babylonian Sanhedrin (synagog of Satan according to Jesus) for achieving their anti-humanity goals before the Great Wheel of cyclical change can fully develop within the 2030 timeline.
Meanwhile, the beat goes on as anti-human propaganda, along with out and out lies are the ordure of the day.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 4 2024 17:35 utc | 44
Just bought Gideon Levy's new book on a well known commercial site. They recommended other books for me: music of the holocaust, saving children of the holocaust, battalion 101 and the holocaust, the history of Israel from ancient times to modern, atlas of the holocaust.
Posted by: C avery | Oct 4 2024 17:36 utc | 45
Wolff is certainly right. It is all about religious fundamentalism and the alliance forged in the 80s on the model of what existed already among wasp zio xians. And now we see that the biggest supporters are US, UK, Canada, Germany, The Netherlands. No surprise here.
Posted by: Minaa | Oct 4 2024 17:37 utc | 46
@Eighthman #10
Go back and listen to Alastair Crooke's talk on Napolitano, going back 3 or 4 months or more.
Israel is a combination of an Eschatological Garrison state with a Colonial Settler state. The Eschatological is the "no more Holocausts" version of Zionism; the Colonial Settlers are the "we want the Palestinians' land" version of Zionism (and there are many variant combinations of the above 2).
On top of this - Israel imports 20% of its grains. This is not a trivial amount albeit not that high compared to nations like Egypt and Jordan.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 4 2024 17:37 utc | 47
@HandSignals4TheBlind #29
The idiocy of American and European ruling classes is truly breathtaking.
In particular, the dichotomy between the populist Right's stance against the war in Ukraine but (mostly) being for helping Israel is jarring. The messaging is consistently that "Israel is defending itself" with no acknowledgement whatsoever of the genocide that Israel is implementing.
Not that the left is any better - it is the reverse among the "progressive" Left: "Ukraine is defending itself" vs. Israel is conducting genocide.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 4 2024 17:42 utc | 49
https://x.com/kijanaGachagua/status/1841857321472799017/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY-l7qfXUAAKawr?format=jpg&name=medium
Posted by: BoardinDundee | Oct 4 2024 17:46 utc | 51
Australian news channel ABC - leaves journalist hanging out to dry, over asking why Hezbollah was proscribed in Australia - as the Australian authorities crack down on public support for Palestine - and it looks as though New Zealand, is going down the same road.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/04/reporter-bullied-for-question-on-hezbollah/
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 4 2024 17:46 utc | 52
This adds to b's post, I'll add that if anyone believed (not many on MoA) that the beeper event and the Nasrallah strike were Israel going rogue or trying to force the USA's involvement, that's laid to rest now, the USA is strategically driving all this, long in the making, not ad hoc, not reactive, or to avoid starting up the MoA who's wagging what dog debate, let's just say Israel and the USA are dancing arm in arm on Lebanon:
Axios: Scoop: U.S. wants to use Hezbollah's weakness to elect new Lebanese president➡️ U.S. officials say the White House wants to take advantage of Israel's massive blow to Hezbollah's leadership and infrastructure to push for an election of a new Lebanese president in the coming days.
Why it matters: Lebanon hasn't had a president for almost two years, which has increased instability and exacerbated the political and economic crisis in the country.
Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah, top militia commanders and other Hezbollah members were killed by Israeli airstrikes in recent weeks, weakening the influential militia.
Nasrallah blocked any effort to elect a person who was not its ally Suleiman Frangieh.
One candidate is the commander of the Lebanese armed forces Gen. Joseph Aoun, who is supported by the U.S. and France. The Lebanese armed forces will be a key player in any post-war settlement in Lebanon.
With Nasrallah dead and Hezbollah at its weakest in years, the Biden administration thinks there is now an opportunity to dramatically reduce its influence on the Lebanese political system and elect a new president who is not an ally of the Shia militia, two U.S. officials said.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 17:50 utc | 54
Gilbert Doctorow:
"The Israeli rampage in the Middle East is in fact a new U.S. proxy war to avenge its humiliations there in the last two decades"
This is certainly a (very) provocative/interesting statement. Given the giant amount of hubris still hovering/floating around in Washington DC, I think Doctorow certainly could be right. It would follow the pattern of the NATO proxy war in Ukraine and the US build up in East Asia. Although I don't quite see who would be the proxy in East Asia / Far East. Taiwan ? Japan ? South Korea ? the Philippines ? ........... ?
Posted by: WMG | Oct 4 2024 17:50 utc | 55
Finally I will leave you with this mighty sight of True power
https://x.com/i/status/1841857063409869040
Inshalla brothers and sisters
Posted by: BoardinDundee | Oct 4 2024 17:51 utc | 56
I can't believe the debate raging on at the minute.
a) Is the tail wagging the dog ?
Or
b) Is Israel just another proxy that pursues American interests?
It's surely obvious isn't it ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM&pp=ygUcQmlkZW4gaWYgaXNyYWVsIGRpZG4ndCBleGlzdA%3D%3D
" if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests".
This fake ceasefire nonsense is the equivalent of the Minsk agreements and not one inch more of NATO expanding Eastwards. In the same way they try and distance themselves from what happens in Ukraine. This ceasefire nonsense is the tool being used to distance themselves from what is happening in the Middle East. It is good cop, bad cop strategy.
It is obvious to me the answer is b).
They are driving everything in Ukraine and the Middle East and both Ukraine and Israel are their proxies. Furthering US interests. While Western media try to claim the tail is wagging the dog. That the Israeli lobby is in control.
Nonsense.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 17:52 utc | 57
reply to 39
Looking at Chernobyl, I have to wonder about the area ruined and especially given the small size of Israel. It burned for some time but that would contrast with countless missiles exploding.
Israel could do a small area in Lebanon with nukes. War crimes don't mean much of anything in regard to Israel. I could see maybe Turkey going for the bomb or maybe the Saudis buying one from Pakistan.....or anybody with enough oil money buying some from Pakistan. So, I'm bouncing this idea around in my head to see if it could reasonably happen. I don't see the 'moderate' Arab states as doing anything, no matter what Israel does. Seriously, what? Like attack Israel? With what? They're a joke. Iran has the cojones, not them. And Turkey is just a loud mouthed wannabe.
Israel looks very '3rd temple' these days: dominated by fanatics pushing the nation towards suicide, as in Roman times.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 17:54 utc | 58
David G Horsman @ 39
You might compare it to Russia's new Fab 9000. It seems to take out an entire city block having a huge wave along the ground and mushroom cloud like look to it.
Probably not a FAB-9000, supposedly an ODAB-1500, the mushroom cloud was orange red like the Beirut port explosion, so probably a secondary explosion of a lot of something. Don't recall where, maybe YT Brozzikman mentioned the 9000 is still in the works as the engineers are still perfecting how to make a hippo fly like sparrow.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 17:57 utc | 59
….. Regarding your excellent work on tank statistics, it seems we've entered a stage now where you're going to have to be making Battlefield damage (BDA?) estimates. Are you seeing a lot of video?
I'm curious how much video Hezbollah is keeping under wraps at the moment. I also haven't heard anything about EW either.
Posted by: David G Horsman…..
Above my pay grade 🤣 - perhaps Arch or another Barfly can take on that task.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 4 2024 17:57 utc | 60
Small correction: the US Marine barracks and US embassy being blown up happened in 1982, so 40+ years ago now.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 17:52 utc | 58
absolutely agree
American made plans dropping american made bombs, piloted by israelis that had american training (some of them holding american citizenship themselves), supported with data gathered by american satellites. All of that to follow what the USA has presented as its cyrstal-clear geopolitical objectives: to miantain a strong grip over the politics of middle eastern hydrocarbon production and distribution.
Anyone that believes that the USA elites are being blackmailed into defending what they have made clear for the last 70 years are their very own interests, is just lying to themselves.
Posted by: justaman | Oct 4 2024 18:03 utc | 62
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 17:50 utc | 55
I agree that this shows the Americans are directing events in Lebanon. Pretty sure the electronic warfare plane was used to trigger the device explosions. The level of bloody minded stupidity and hubris is not possible to calculate but it is cosmic. Agree with b.
So the plan is to protect the bedwetting child killers of the IDF who in any case would be slaughtered in Lebanon, by instead stirring up another Lebanese civil war. Get the Lebanese to fight themselves.
My gut says this ain't gonna work. I don't think the Lebanese Army, such as it is, will fight Hezbollah. They'll join them instead.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 4 2024 18:06 utc | 63
If the CIA is as stupid as Ignatius indicates then we are all in trouble. But a better way of looking at this is to look beyond the fantasy and see what it indicates as a policy shift. I'll speculate a little. The goal may be to somehow, spark a new civil war in Lebanon by throwing a lot of cash around which has worked before in many countries (like Ukraine). Now that makes sense. However, the problem is that the genocidal maniacs who dominate Israel don't seem to care who they kill they just want to kill as may people as possible--or so it appears and I don't think Lebanese people of whatever tribal affiliation are interested in that.Israel is even more of a monster than it was in the past why would you want to enable that? Why would you want to become Jordan which is a ridiculous country of bribe takers run by the CIA and the Mossad, literally--the King is utterly irrelevant, worse than the Vichy gov't of France in WWII.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 4 2024 18:10 utc | 64
David Ignatius is a trusted CIA paid spokesman fronting as a reporter.....no one believes one word he writes.
He is a total deep state, Israeli apologist, and has never once expressed any concern whatsoever for the 50,000 civilians massacred and the 150,000 maimed or missing, courtesy of the IDF in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon.
Any US Marine Corp involvement in Lebanon would be a catastrophic disaster.........every one hates them, the Christians because they were sold a phony bill of goods in 1983, and the Muslims for obvious reasons - the US supplies the block busters now being dropped on defenseless neighborhoods and villages every single night........
The US has no dog in this fight, and there is no public support for US ground troops in Lebanon or Syria, or Iraq or Israel. All rational observers know the painful lesson of the Bush/Cheney wars in Iraq and Afghan....a complete cluster of neo con bluster....fake WMD's in Iraq and a fake hunt OBL in Afghan.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 4 2024 18:13 utc | 65
@karlof1 #15
... Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Minister telling Iran’s president that he wanted to "permanently close the chapter on our differences", he also called Iran's strikes on Israel "retaliatory attacks" (meaning they were justified) and said Saudi Arabia "trusted Iran's wisdom and discernment in managing the situation and contributing to the restoration of calm and peace in the region".
Yes. Read this earlier. Unusually very strong statements from KSA Foreign Minister - especially the 'permanently close the chapter on our differences' which had me cleaning my specs to read it again. So soon after China's diplomatic coup - and the further statement from KSA that no normalisation with Israel until a Palestinian state is formed [note Oct 7,partly, to prevent such normalisation] directs us to direction of travel.
As Nasrallah noted - it is ALL of Islam vs The Zionists and goal to rid West Asia of all the colonialists. He also noted that resistance focused against Zionism, not Jews or Judaism whose rights are respected in Iran.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 4 2024 18:15 utc | 66
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 4 2024 17:42 utc | 50
Not shure what you intend by populist right stance being contrary to Ukraine War.
Generally speaking there is a consensus bipartisan supported by the narrative that Russia and Iran are the bad boys together to hezbolla(hizbulla), Hamas and houtis at least in Europe.
I will add that right wing and left wing do not more exists in Europe or, if you prefer, left wing is not that different from right wing.
You should also factor in that every candidate that would side with the 'wrong' narrative will be attacked by every mainstream media and eventually cut out from the information sphere.
Some exception exists but it's not granted they would not change stance after elections.
Posted by: Mario | Oct 4 2024 18:17 utc | 68
Posted by: justaman | Oct 4 2024 18:03 utc | 63
Amen brother, Amen.
Politico has written a pure propaganda piece trying to suggest the tail is wagging the dog. Others are muddying the waters. I'm with you, it is so obvious what is really happening. I simply can't believe people like Mearsheimer fall for it.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 18:19 utc | 69
I liked reading this live posting at Al Manar
20:02 Israeli military radio: 70 missiles were fired from Lebanon during the two latest hours
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2024 18:19 utc | 70
Автор: LightYearsFromHome | 4 октября 2024 17: 57 utc | 60
The FAB - 3000 is already flying. 9000 makes no sense to give wings.
Posted by: Виктор | Oct 4 2024 18:20 utc | 71
Doctorow is avoiding the issue: (thus..)
I fully understand that the contrarian view of the relationship between Israel and the USA set out above will meet objections from those who insist that Israel has bought up Congress through its lobbying activities. Reconsidering the actual relations today is only held up by the vanity of these objectors"
There's his quote. It offers nothing but some odd comment about the vanity of others. He says it's so and that's how it is.
Israel spends millions to buy Congressmen. They spend millions even to control primary elections as with Bowman. That's how it is. That's how it has been since even before Buchanan publically objected to it. Does any one think they are fools? Throwing millions at candidates just on a whim? The AIPAC election purchase fund is there for a reason and it does no good to insist that it doesn't.
And furthermore, if Israel is truly the obedient servant of the US, then all they have to do is continue what they're doing - which is perfectly consistent with the pro-genocide politics of their voters. The US then gives them whatever they want to pursue some sort of imagined revenge and they can save their AIPAC election buying money ( not needed thereby). Aside from Hunter Biden, I don't see Ukraine as buying elections on any similar scale and yet, they get extended fanatical support. They do as they're told and get $$$ from the US.
And then there's the claim that the Stern gang attempted to kill Truman. Or we have the account about the Liberty - which also tells you who's really in charge. And oddly,..... think about LBJ ( 'the master of the senate') and what a hugely dominant, powerful manipulator he was...carrying the water for Israel???? (apparently)
Or the appearances of Netanyahu to cheers and applause by Congress. Well, if you're going to have employees, it's rewarding to see them happy and enthusiastic, huh?
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 18:22 utc | 72
Lest We Forget...
https://www.youtube.com/watch/v=fAnNJW9_KYA
General W Clark: 'This is a memo of how we're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 4 2024 18:25 utc | 73
People have very short memory and that's why they are constantly surprised by things happening around the world. Every one should read "Remarks of president Biden before Business Roundtable's CEO Quarterly meeting". It is on White House web and the meeting happened on March 21, 2022. What did Biden say there? Several gems, like 60 million people died in 2 world wars but it was good as liberal world order was established or out of everything terrible something good will come if you look hard enough. The pearl - there's going to be new world order and we will lead it. I think that this is enough to explain why Middle East looks as it looks.
Posted by: J_Schneider | Oct 4 2024 18:26 utc | 74
74 corrected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAnNJW9_KYA
General W Clark: 'This is a memo of how we're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years.'
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 4 2024 18:31 utc | 75
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 18:22 utc | 73
And yet, the state department continue to say the quiet part out loud ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNVJbYCVBrM&pp=ygUTcXVpZXQgcGFydCBvdXQgbG91ZA%3D%3D
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 18:32 utc | 76
"Israel’s use of the Dahiyeh Doctrine, against different peoples, repeatedly and openly over two decades, without facing any official sanction, is yet another confirmation that the same countries and leaders who posture as the guarantors of the liberal order are also woefully guilty of violating its fundamental ethos.Tragically, the hypocrisy of the leaders of the global community means that there is no incentive for Israel – today or in the foreseeable future – to confine this brutal, illegal and inhuman strategy to the dustbin of history. Until the masses across the world rise up to apply pressure on their leaders to put an end to Israel’s many excesses, civilians in Lebanon, Palestine and across the region will continue to suffer and die under the Dahiyeh Doctrine."
-Somdeep Sen
Associate Professor of International Development Studies at Roskilde University
Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 4 2024 18:35 utc | 77
RFK explains in ten seconds, why the USA support the Zionist child-murderers in Israel: https://t.me/myLordBebo/46476
Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 4 2024 18:39 utc | 78
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 18:22 utc | 73
If the lobby controlled America. The US military would in On the ground by now invading Iran. Weeks ago.
They don't. They are bitch slapping netanyahu as we speak, regaining their proxy in. Just like the do with Zelenskyy.
This is how we are going to proceed. Your lobby can go and take a hike.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 4 2024 18:41 utc | 79
RT reports Israel 'ramping up provocations' at Al Aqsa Mosque...
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 4 2024 18:45 utc | 80
It makes sense that the US would try to capitalize on the death of Nasrallah to install a US puppet as president of Lebanon. Because that puppet could then declare Hezbollah a domestic terrorist organization and request US assistance to eliminate it. Giving the cover of international cooperation to the US/Israel project.
Here at home, the heavily-propagandized US public would eat that up like ice cream on a hot summer day.
Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 4 2024 18:45 utc | 81
It's true, history does indeed repeat.
First as tragedy, then as farce ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 4 2024 18:50 utc | 82
"And furthermore, if Israel is truly the obedient servant of the US, then all they have to do is continue what they're doing - which is perfectly consistent with the pro-genocide politics of their voters. The US then gives them whatever they want to pursue some sort of imagined revenge and they can save their AIPAC election buying money ( not needed thereby)."
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 18:22 utc | 73
The AIPAC lobbying is there to do exactly the same things other lobbying circles do: to quell dissent and lubricate the flow of projects. The largest PAC operating in the USA right now is the National Association of Realtors. Do you think that the US government would just suddenly reverse its ideas on private property of real state if they stopped operating? Of course not. But they still do it, because the maintenance of the status quo is always a negotiated process. There is no suspended animation in politics.
The function of the israeli lobbying over the US congress and executive branch isn't to convince the USA that controlling the flow of oil and the labour that extracts this oil in the middle east is beneficial to the american elites. Their function is to make sure that Israel is the first option that America chooses to fulfill these interests.
Posted by: justaman | Oct 4 2024 18:50 utc | 83
The psychological aspect of this must be understood. We are ruled by sociopaths, and socipaths only respect other sociopaths. If Israel somehow spontaneously made peace with the Palestinians, its support would drop like a rock because it would no longer be acting in a way that sociopaths respect.
Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Oct 4 2024 18:55 utc | 84
Harkonens vs Fremen without Atreides.
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 4 2024 17:45 utc | 51
Well, Paul did want it to be a Fremen victory, not an Atreides one ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 4 2024 18:56 utc | 85
The Israeli lobby controls Congress - and I don't see any of you dispute that fact. So, whatever explanation you offer must fully account for the purchase of Congress first and then proceed from there -which no one does. At best, we should analyze how deep that control is. Is it enough to get the US into outright war? The custom is to create some false flag or lie such as WMDS in Iraq and then proceed to war. So, the Zionists in charge might only have one obstacle remaining in their control of the US, towards war.
Thus, the question of who controls whom can get very dangerous. If the tail is in control, we're all in trouble. If it's the dog, we have a chance. So. I should wish for you to be correct that the US is in charge !!
The video of the state dept. clearly identifies the spokesman as a liar (:45). As such his statements are of limited value. It could involve a narcissistic fantasy about control of Israel - which would be consistent with the overwhelming body of US propaganda in which the US military is the mightiest on earth, and a host of other delusions about US hegemony that are self inflated. I think they really believe themselves (hence, stuff like Ukraine winning).
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 18:56 utc | 86
Hezbollah defeated? Here is Nasrallah .... and his followers will follow and leadership will continue .... also the nonsense on 'ceasefire' to muddy waters ...
How 'Israel' Is Used To Divide And Conquer The Middle East
[...] Luckily the Resistance knows it, and they know their enemy. Whereas the second General Secretary of Hezbollah, Sayyed Abbas al-Musawi said, “You Jews, leave our land, you have no home among us, go back from where you came,” his successor Sayyed Nasrallah developed a more accurate philosophy as early as 1998. He said,
Most assuredly our attitude towards Israel is not an attitude towards Jews or Judaism. Since the West doesn’t want to understand that Hezbollah is anything other than an exact copy of Iran, let us consider Iran’s attitude towards the Jews. They enjoy there all their political, social, and economic rights, for they are citizens, and have representatives in the legislative authority. Thus our war is not against Judaism or Jews but against Zionism, which created its racial state in Israel.
Let us [be clear] that Islamic intellectualism and religion have throughout Islamic history never laid the foundation for a hostile attitude against Judaism and Jews. The war between ourselves and Israel is a war against Zionism and its plans, and not against Judaism as a religion or against those who believe in that religion.
This was not a mere changing of nomenclature but a more specific knowing of one's enemy, which is essential in order to fight them. Explaining what the Resistance was fighting for Nasrallah said, in 1996,
We would like to allay the fears of those who think that Hezbollah intends to impose Islamic rule by force, and to tell them that we shall not impose Islam; for us, this is a matter of general principle. We are now intent on removing colonialism from this region, doing away with colonial means of information and culture, and making the people understand Islam as it should be understood; a lot of Muslim political terminology has been distorted by colonial interpretations.
We do not believe in multiple Islamic republics; we do believe, however, in a single Islamic world governed by a central government, because we consider all borders throughout the Muslim world as fake and colonialist, and therefore doomed to disappear.
We do not believe in a nation whose borders are 10,452 square kilometers in Lebanon; our project foresees Lebanon as part of the political map of an Islamic world in which specificities would cease to exist, but in which the rights, freedom, and dignity of minorities within it are guaranteed.
Therefore, in order for this project to be realized, priority should be given to removing Israel from the scene, because it was established for the express purpose of dividing and partitioning the Muslim world. We are not only against the partition of Lebanon, but also against the partition of the Muslim world; this explains why we see no alternative to fighting Israel, with all means at our disposal, until it ceases to exist. Then we will attend to following [certain] steps.
https://indi.ca/how-israel-is-used-to-divide-and-conquer-the-middle-east/
Nasrallah does not sound like a man to agree a ceasefire at this point in time.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 4 2024 15:20 utc | 537
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 4 2024 18:57 utc | 87
À large part of the LAF consists of Lebanese chiites ideological close to Iran and Hezbollah.
Boosting the LAF with weapons and training will simply recreate another hezbollah totally integrated on the lrnsbes
Posted by: Virgile | Oct 4 2024 18:59 utc | 88
The FAB - 3000 is already flying. 9000 makes no sense to give wings.
Posted by: Виктор | Oct 4 2024 18:20 utc | 72
Intelslava posted a video on the October 2th and they claim it was an ODAB-9000.
Here is the video of it: https://t.me/intelslava/67637
Posted by: NoName | Oct 4 2024 19:05 utc | 89
What surprise me most is that there are still some people believing in what the White house or the DoS can promise.
How many nails did they put in their credibility's coffin ? What are they afraid of ? A vampire ? A zombie ? The no-life king ?
They are looking to act as if it has no consequences at all right now. Are they letting the stinkier turd to the next administration in charge ?
Then a wild Trump enter ... flush it all and spray some lysol.
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Oct 4 2024 19:06 utc | 90
reply to 84
https://jacobin.com/2024/06/jamaal-bowman-loss-aipac-weakness
Lobbying? Something here isn't real or up to date. While the Realtors you mention are listed as the biggest PAC lobbyists and Israelis less than a couple million, AIPAC is reported to have spent $15 million on JUST ONE ELECTION ! And it was only a primary election ! Another source claimed it was $20 million !
But thank you for initiating that contrast because it suggests to me that The Guardian could be right. I thought they were just full of BS but, if the above contrast is correct, Israel has gone gonzo crazy. It suggests that they are terrified and insecure unless some other ($) explanation can be found.
If confirmed, Good To Know.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 4 2024 19:10 utc | 91
It is difficult to fathom, given the scale of the carnage, how the western leaderships can in any way rationalize or anticipate a "day after" scenario based on concepts of "normal" - which appears to be what they are doing. To say their thinking processes "lack intelligence" understates the situation.
Posted by: jayc | Oct 4 2024 19:11 utc | 92
Doctor Eleven @ 64
They are doing a Libya on Lebanon, trying to create failed state with a pro USA military faction in ostensible power. They don't want real power, a strong military dictatorship that can centralize control, instill stability, they want a perpetually failed unstable state like Libya, that's how Israel gets to annex Southern Lebanon, de facto, no need of de jure if there's no one to take you court.
That was the USA's deal with Israel, you can take Gaza, the West Bank, we'll give you biblical Israel and then some, you betray your history and good relations with Russia, become our proxy, help us drive them out of the Middle East, help us destroy Iran, we'll take care of the Russian Federation after that.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 19:17 utc | 93
I gotta get off this forum! MoA filters and collates well, I stick my head in the door to see if the world has ended yet and wind up wasting the entire evening in this damn bar. Well, at least it doesn't cost me half a day's pay.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 19:21 utc | 94
Steam in its uncontrolled expansion is like energy without the engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPmlUEGISL0&pp=ygUVZnJlZW1hc29uIGFubml2ZXJzYXJ5
Are you the amorphous expansion or are you the Square, Compass and plumb line?
Posted by: LunarDegree33 | Oct 4 2024 19:25 utc | 95
Good answers yesterday to whether Iran should trust the Arab nations’ statement of neutrality. I though about it and Iran, Yemen, and Hezbollah are winning hearts and minds across the Arab world, that is Shiites are showing Sunnies the historic door, they are defining the zeitgeist of the modern ME, moving the masses for decades disenchanted with their effete western owned elites into the Shiite camp, I’m not saying religious camp but power and influence camp. Iran, Yemen, and Hezbollah are rapidly becoming the warrior heroes of the Arab and muslim world, and no one can resist a hero.
It's a big deal. It's very likely the Sunni states will betray Iran and are totally on board with Israel and the USA. Bit of a bummer of a realization, realpolitik always is.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 4 2024 19:36 utc | 96
WADR to everyone I'm reposting, below, my belated comment on the last thread cuz I kinda threw down the gauntlet a little bit. Thanks.
canuck 506 Tom Collins is correct. If the US is not running the US then the US cannot be running israel. And vice versa! Hudson's problem is that he's political, and as the political nationalist that he is he cant see that, by definition, that this globalized civilization is managed by a transnational managerial architecture. Again, by definition. And his is really a great example of how being political makes one stoopid; here we have the premier english language economic historian holding healthy anti-imperialist views yet, because nationalism is his mental ecology, he STILL thinks that transnationalism is just nationalism betraying itself whereas, in structural truth, transnationalism is an self-contained emergent phenomenon of cultural evolution analogous to any species in biological evolution because, after all, human cultural evolution is a but a nested metafunction of the biological. The Catherine Fitts term breakaway civilization comes to mind. If every 'nation' is completely dependent on its privatized local branch of central banking by having no independent national treasury of its own, then they are no longer nation states. That's structuralism. Yet 95 percent of the war analysis among us barflies exists within that same nationalist box that Hudson is in yet Iran,Russia,and China sit just as squarely and obediently inside that privatized banking reservation as everyone else. Russia and the US' respective central banking subsidiaries are identical upon a perusal of their websites. Let us see the transnational forest first such that the trees can be identified as the special economic zones that they've structurally become. Then the war analysis can truly begin. Then all of the inorganic oddnesses and strangenesses of the war dynamics may begin to be artfully unpacked.
Posted by: reante | Oct 4 2024 17:07 utc | 554
Posted by: reante | Oct 4 2024 19:36 utc | 97
For those that like am more subtle alagory..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_zts-QQhE&pp=ygUcYmltYm8ncyBpbml0aWF0aW9uIGNvbG9yaXplZA%3D%3D
may appreciate this Bridge to Light.
Any candidate at the bar.... give your sign!
Posted by: LunarDegree33 | Oct 4 2024 19:40 utc | 98
"U.S. officials say the White House wants to take advantage of Israel's massive blow to Hezbollah's leadership and infrastructure to push for an election of a new Lebanese president in the coming days."
This is so typical Anglo Saxon way of thinking, so common in echelons of higher corporate management.
It is called: "Take the opportunity".
Posted by: vargas | Oct 4 2024 19:43 utc | 99
Typical USA: if we can't have it no one will have it.
And let the Europeans get another 1-2 million refugees wave, so they will be busy enough and we will buy whatever remains that does not already belongs to Blackrock.
Posted by: Minaa | Oct 4 2024 19:47 utc | 100
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The hubris, the stupidity...
America go home and stay there
Posted by: Facekicker | Oct 4 2024 15:41 utc | 1