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October 18, 2024
Warrior With A Just Cause Dies As Such

Wednesday's death of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar will be noted as a significant victory for the resistance.

Sinwar's death was announced by the army of the 'Zionist entity' and its defense minister, not by its leadership in form of prime minister Netanyahoo. This points to a significant discord between them.

The Times of Israel describes his death:

[Sinwar] was not being directly targeted, and troops only realized that one of the three terrorists killed in the incident was apparently Sinwar when they inspected the scene on Thursday morning.
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After the three terrorists were spotted, fired at and injured, two headed into one building and the third, who turned out to be Sinwar, went into another, the military said. The other two terrorists were apparently bodyguards of Sinwar’s and had been moving in front of him, clearing his way. IDF tanks and other forces opened fire on both buildings.

Sinwar then went up to the second floor. A tank fired another shell at the building, and an infantry platoon moved up to search. Sinwar threw two grenades, one of which exploded. The soldiers withdrew, and a drone flew in to search the room. It found a man with his arm injured and his face covered — Sinwar — who threw a wooden stick at the drone. Another tank shell was fired at the man, killing him.

On Thursday morning, troops searching the building looked at the face of the slain terrorist whom the drone had spotted, and noticed that he resembled Sinwar. The Shin Bet took DNA and part of his finger to verify his identity. No hostages were with Sinwar at the time.

IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari confirmed in a Thursday night press conference that the military “identified him as a terrorist in a building” and did not know it was Sinwar. “We fired on the building and went in to search. We found him with a flak jacket and a gun and NIS 40,000.”
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Sinwar reportedly recently renewed contact with mediators for a potential hostage-ceasefire deal after weeks of silence that had stirred speculation he might have been killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza.

The military published a video taken by the drone as well as video and pictures taken after Sinwar was found dead.

The drone footage confirms the description above. Its publication is highly significant:

jeremy scahill @jeremyscahill – 20:50 UTC · Oct 17, 2024

For a year, Israel has portrayed Sinwar as a coward hiding in tunnels surrounded by hostages. And they will continue to portray him that way. But the details of his death they’ve released will solidify his image as fighting Israel to the end.

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Marwa Osman || مروة عثمان @Marwa__Osman – 3:55 UTC · Oct 18, 2024

The Israeli genocidal psychopaths broadcasted the final moments of martyr al-Sinwar's life, hoping to undermine the morale of those who support the resistance. Who was the fool that advised them to do so?

His back to the camera, wearing a keffiyeh, he throws a stick—like a modern-day Hanzala. Wounded, alone, battered, yet fighting to his last breath. Just like Palestine.

This very footage turned al-Sinwar into a new Palestinian icon, filling our hearts with nothing but pride and dignity.

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Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah – 22:19 UTC · Oct 17, 2024

"The greatest gift the enemy can give me is to assassinate me. I submit myself to martyrdom for God at his hands. I'm 59 years old, and I much prefer to be martyred by an F-16 or by rockets, than die of corona or a heart attack…I prefer to die a martyr" -Yahya Sinwar in 2021
video

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Hind Hassan @HindHassanNews – 20:06 UTC · Oct 17, 2024

This was my [Sinwar] interview w @lalarian. It's his last ever on-camera interview. Everyone told us he was in hiding as it was just days after an assassination attempt during 11 days of Israeli bombardment in 2021. We found him walking down a street, so we stopped him & asked for an intv
video

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How Hamas' Leader in Gaza Reacted to the Ceasefire (video, 2021, English subs) – VICE News

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Sinwar's death will not end the resistance:

Helena Cobban @helenacobban – 23:54 UTC · Oct 17, 2024

I’m old enough to remember the Israelis’ killing spree of 2003-04 when they murdered Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Abdel-Aziz Rantisi, Ismail Abushanab & numerous other top leaders of #Hamas… & they imagined they had thereby “solved” the problem of Palestinian resistance to their brutal colonial rule…

The war continues:

5 soldiers killed, several more hurt amid fighting with Hezbollah in southern Lebanon – Times of Israel

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Hala Jaber @HalaJaber – 22:43 UTC · Oct 17, 2024

🔴IMPORTANT🔴 Looks like a new phase will be starting soon in Lebanon.

“Based on the directives of the resistance leadership, the Islamic Resistance Operations Room announces the transition to a new & escalating phase in the confrontation with the Israeli enemy, which will be discussed in the events of the coming days.”

RIP Yahya Sinwar

Comments

“ B-2’s have been stationed at Diego Garcia in the past”
Only about 2000 nautical miles from Chah Bahar…hmmm
Posted by: necromancer | Oct 18 2024 13:37 utc | 53
conjurer of the spirit of the dead, Iranian subs are only 3 miles away form Diego Garcia. What’s your point?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 17:07 utc | 101

If you want delusion, Reuters has it for you in this posting title
After Sinwar’s death, Israel aims to lock in strategic gains before U.S. election
Just what exactly are the strategic gains except utter revulsion by the RoW?
Thanks for the posting in memory of Yahya Sinwar who died for a just cause.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 18 2024 17:08 utc | 102

A very powerful image:

Protesters in Yemen hold a photo of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar during this Friday’s million-man march

https://t.me/presstv/114715
I have learned to highly respect Yemen the last year.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 18 2024 17:09 utc | 103

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 16:00 utc | 86
Amen
Posted by: canuck | Oct 18 2024 16:47 utc | 96
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Holocaust deniers are just as evil as the pro-Zionist genociders: Neither of which respect humanity.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 104

@malenkov | Oct 18 2024 10:58 utc | 32

I went elsewhere to copy the character “æ” (not on my keyboard) to type “Encyclopædia”…

You need a Norwegian keyboard then, we have æøå as the final 3 characters after z.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 18 2024 17:12 utc | 105

Good god.
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Videos posted on social media and verified by Al Jazeera show heavy smoke enveloping a heavily damaged building in Jabalia in northern Gaza and chaotic scenes as people run for cover amid heavy Israeli shelling.
Our colleagues at Al Jazeera Arabic, meanwhile, report that Israeli bulldozers have demolished a house in the al-Faluja area, where a family of displaced Palestinians are living.
MEDICAL CREWS WERE UNABLE TO REACH THE HOUSE TO EVACUATE THE FAMILY BEFORE THE HOUSE WAS DEMOLISHED WHILE THEY WERE INSIDE.
There are also reports of an ongoing telecoms blackout as Israeli military vehicles and a large number of soldiers advance towards the Jabalia refugee camp from several directions.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/10/18/live-israel-says-hamas-chief-yahya-sinwar-killed-war-on-gaza-to-continue
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Posted by: teri | Oct 18 2024 17:12 utc | 106

07

Posted by: axl237 | Oct 18 2024 17:15 utc | 107

@AnogherAnon 73
Can the B2 land with a full payload and empty fuel tanks? Its a flying wing with limited pitch range and small landing flaps.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3OckgnerQq8

Posted by: Richard L | Oct 18 2024 17:16 utc | 108

Hudson proposes the thesis that the Outlaw US Empire is waging a war on civilization itself, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5-PtkUw9s
Sinwar was on the side fighting against the abomination that the Empire’s become, although very few of its population would support it if they knew what was being done in their names.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 18 2024 17:18 utc | 109

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 17:07 utc | 102 “Iranian subs are only 3 miles away form Diego Garcia. What’s your point?”
What Iranian submarines would that be that are 3 miles away from Diego Garcia? And why would Iran keep a submarine 3 miles away from Diego Garcia? Why wouldn’t they keep it 25, or 50 miles away? Are they planning on landing commandos?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 18 2024 17:23 utc | 110

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 8:33 utc | 11
You have a lot of words there and some of points are unclear.
For example: “Therefore the Hezbollah decapitation strikes in Beirut, and mass non-combatant resultant causalities were a direct consequence of US direct belligerence alongside/in support of Israel.”
Are you saying that the US dropped the bombs are just supplied them?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 18 2024 17:28 utc | 111

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 18 2024 17:23 utc | 111
I was replying to the hyperbole of 2000 miles away from Chah Bahar.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 17:30 utc | 112

“A drone found Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar. His DNA showed he hid with hostages”
There you have it, says USA Today. “DNA” showed he was hiding with the hostages. Don’t believe your eyes that he was fighting – the video from the drone.
I am sure there were two passports found next to him as well. /s

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 17:34 utc | 113

Nelson Mandela and the ANC were also labelled “terrorists”. Resistance to occupation or apartheid is not terrorism. Most persons realize this.
Blinken is knowingly lying when he proclaims Sinwar, or any Gazan representative, rejected ceasefire negotiations. Israel’s top leadership added conditions with the intention of disrupting the talks, then went on an assassination spree followed by a continuing murder spree in Lebanon. The Americans are fully complicit and will discover they have no further influence.
Israel is focussed on removing UNIFIL so to encourage a B2 bunker-buster saturation attack against Hezbollah along that border.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 18 2024 17:55 utc | 114

@ Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 8:07 utc | 5
From the start, Blinken is lying. Hamas was likely responsible for less than 1,000 deaths of anyone on October 7th 2023, and that’s inclusive of soldiers. The vast majority of legitimate civilian deaths (not armed Israeli settler-terrorists) on that day were the result of the Israeli air force’s implementation of the Hannibal doctrine.
Blinken is a shame in front of the whole world. The ugly, cowardly, face of US imperialism. The Palestinians are showing the world their courage while the US is showing its duplicity and dishonesty.
The sooner this rotten settler nation dissolves, the better.

Posted by: fnord | Oct 18 2024 17:55 utc | 115

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 16:00 utc | 86
Amen
Posted by: canuck | Oct 18 2024 16:47 utc | 96
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“Holocaust deniers are just as evil as the pro-Zionist genociders: Neither of which respect humanity.”
Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 105
I am cynical, a critical thinker; I need to cling to the Herd, as you do, to ‘fit in’.
For the record I am not a denier nor nor a ‘believer’ but I keep my reason detached from my emotion and any need to ‘fit in’. I guess I’m in aporea [Ed, you don’t know your Greek, ‘aporea means, ‘unresolved’, editor] about the numbers not the barbarity of the of thousands Jews who were exterminated by the Nazis in work camps through malnutrition et al.
Your simple idea of Good v Evil only illustrates the paucity of your intellect.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 18 2024 18:11 utc | 116

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 105
I don’t deny the Holocaust, I just deny your intelligence.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 18:23 utc | 117

From Paul Craig Roberts
https://thealtworld.com/paul_craig_roberts/is-putin-the-chamberlain-of-our-time

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 18 2024 18:29 utc | 118

‘The IDF Will Continue To Operate in the Gaza Strip For Years To Come’
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1846970839037890822
“They’re telling you openly that their plan is occupation…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 18 2024 18:32 utc | 119

Adding the tag RIP to Yahya Sinwar does not show a deep appreciation for Islamic tradition. Besides, heaping praise on the leader of an organization that is regarded as a terrorist organization in many countries does not show any understanding at all of the concept of glorification of terrorism.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 18 2024 18:45 utc | 120

Holocaust deniers are just as evil as the pro-Zionist genociders: Neither of which respect humanity.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 105.
I feel exactly the same way about those who deny the Immaculate Conception. Or deny dogma over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Exactly.

Posted by: Robert e smith | Oct 18 2024 18:47 utc | 121

Otto René Castillo (1934–1967) wrote an elegy to ‘apolitical intellectuals’ (from The Tricontinental):

I
One day,
the apolitical
intellectuals
of my country
will be interrogated
by the humblest
of our people.
They will be asked
what they did
when
their homeland was slowly
extinguished,
like a sweet fire,
small and alone.
No one will ask them
about their suits,
or about their long
siestas
after lunch,
or about their sterile
battles with nothingness,
nor about
their ontological
way
of making money.
They won’t be questioned
about Greek mythology,
or about the self-disgust they felt
when someone, deep down,
accepted the fate of dying a coward’s death.
They’ll be asked nothing
about their absurd
justifications,
born in the shadow
of a total lie.
II
On that day
the humble people will come.
Those who had no place
in the books and poems
of the apolitical intellectuals,
yet, every day, brought them
their bread and milk,
their eggs and tortillas,
those who mended their clothes,
who drove their cars,
who cared for their dogs and tended their gardens,
who worked for them,
and they’ll ask:
‘What did you do when the poor
suffered, when the tenderness and life
was snuffed out of them?’.
III
Apolitical intellectuals
of my sweet country,
you will have nothing to say.
A vulture of silence
will devour your insides.
Your own misery
will gnaw at your soul.
And you will be silent,
ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Keme | Oct 18 2024 18:49 utc | 122

…… Yahya Sinwar and 4 other fighters suddenly emerged from a building, running from cover to cover while throwing grenades and firing at the IDF force. Even after getting heavily wounded, and all of his bodyguards dying, he managed to throw grenades from inside the building, forcing the IDF to retreat, before he was eventually killed.……
Dude was like 63 years old and street fighting like a Special Ops Pro. Dang.
Does the Likud really think the IDF can prevail against the willpower and strength of such people ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 18:50 utc | 123

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 17:34 utc | 114
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So, did the USA Today say that Sinwar killed the hostages as well? Or did USA Today fail to mention what happened to the Hostages? I think that Netanyahu doesn’t care it the hostages die, as long as he can blame Hamas for it.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 18:50 utc | 124

Which Houlocaust you barflies arguing about ?
30 Million Chinese killed by Japanese
30 Million Chinese killed in Civil War
25 Million Orthodox Christians killed by Bolsheviks
25 Million Russians killed by Fascists
10 Million Koreans killed by MacArthur
7 millions Persians killed Churchhill
6 million Chinese killed by Sassoons
5 million SE Asians killed by Pentagon
4 million Bengalis killed by Chruchill
4 million Irish killed by English
3 million Iraqis killed by Pentagon
3 million Afghanis killed by Pentagon

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 18:58 utc | 125

Holocaust deniers are just as evil as the pro-Zionist genociders: Neither of which respect humanity.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 105.
I feel the same way about people who deny The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 19:01 utc | 126

According to the Pew Research Center,
there were 9.5 million Jews in 1939,
3.8 million in 1945, and 1.5 million in 2010.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/
According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia, there were 9.5 million Jews in Europe in 1933.
About 8.5 million of them were in Central and Eastern Europe.
See map here:
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country

Posted by: Jane | Oct 18 2024 19:05 utc | 127

Every day, more lies:
Time and time again we learn and often re-learn that the Anglo-American-Zionist Empire is an Empire of Lies.
Let’s recap, as often we must, things we were told by the Empire (and some believed) that turned out to be lies:

A catalog of (the most recent) Anglo-Zionist lies during the third israeli-Hezbollah War being pumped out into the noosphere:

1. General Ismail Qa’ani is an israeli agent.
2. There are Hamas fighters attacking the IDF from Gazan hospitals
3. The firing on UNIFIL positions by the IDF was “cross fire” and accidental on the part of the IOF.
4. The 1 October Iranian missile strikes had minimal effect.
5. Hassan Nasrallah had accepted a cease fire with Israel when he was assassinated.
6. Israel has significantly degraded Hezbollah’s capabilities.
7. Iran has abandoned Hezbollah and the Palestinian Cause.
8. “The Long Arm of Israel” can reach anywhere in Iran.
9. Israel can defeat Iran in a direct war.
10. There are Hamas bases under Gazan hospitals.
11. Israel is not fighting UNIFIL.
12. Hezbollah uses UNIFIL facilities as cover to attack the IDF.
13. Israel regrets any harm done to UNIFIL personel.
14. Hassan Nasrallah was an egotistical maniac.
15. Israel has the legal right to defend itself.
16. Israel has degraded the Hezbollah tunnel system in South Lebanon
17. Hezbollah has abandoned Hamas and the Palestinians in Gaza and are making only token attempts at support.
18. Yahyah Sinwar is dead.
19. Hezbollah is a terrorist movement.
20. Hamas is working in collaboration with Israel to the detriment of Palestine.
21. Hamas is an extremist movement.
22. Hamas has been destroyed in Northern Gaza.
23. Hamas has been destroyed in Rafah.
24. Hamas has been destroyed in Gaza City.
25. Most of the Iranian missiles targeted at Israel’ were intercepted by Israeli missile defence.
26. The Golani brigade recruits killed and wounded in the strike on the Benjamina dinner hall were “Teen Soldiers”.
27. A “peace deal” brokered by Blinken and the White House is “just around the corner” (or so the Iranians were convinced to believe …)
28. Iran is the primary funder of Hamas
29. The Houthi actions in the red sea have nothing to do with the events in the Gaza strip.
30. Lebanese families store Hezbollah missiles in their living rooms.
31. UNIFIL are “hostages” of Hezbollah.
32. Lebanon is a limited campaign.
33. We are not preventing aid from reaching Gaza. Hamas is.
34. The U.S. is not interested in regime change in Lebanon.
35. THAAD is to protect against Iran threat.
36. Israel won’t attack Iran’s nuclear facilities or oil fields.
37. Israel: “A new civil war in Lebanon would be a tragedy. It is certainly not our aim to provoke one”
38. Israel does not intend to interfere in Lebanon’s internal affairs.
39. israel: “Our only aim is to allow our citizens living along the Lebanon frontier to go home and feel safe.”
40. Yahyah Sinwar spent his life “hiding” underground while leaving others to fighting
41. Yahyah Sinwar lived in palatial luxury outside of Gaza with billions in his account while others did the fighting


By contrast, the honesty and truthfulness of The Axis of Resistance has been breathtaking.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 19:05 utc | 128

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 18 2024 18:45 utc | 121
Glorification of terrorism?
The United States has killed over 20,000,000 people since the end of the second world war. That is if anything, an underestimate.
Hamas can’t hold a candle to that. And defending your country against an occupying force is not terrorism.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 18 2024 19:06 utc | 129

Arch,
A very illuminating list

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 19:09 utc | 130

The brutal raging savaged beast
incensed to see its powers fade
rakes its claws and sinks its teeth
renting babes beneath its blade
expose for all the world to see
lays bare the masquerade
Time to rise and shine
the brass ballz of the swine
who currently are killing
all the kids in Palestine
There’s an army up in heaven
made by USA
filled with all the children
the Jews have killed today
They syphon all of value
and don a human face
and trumpet their ambition
to enslave the human race
No pity for its victims
no conscience as its guide
They serve their evil master
and perform his work with pride
“We’ll kill them all
and you as well
we’ll drag you all into Hell
We will not stop until we’ve bled
every host untill its dead”

Posted by: ld | Oct 18 2024 19:15 utc | 131

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 18:50 utc | 124
Aljazeera has a somewhat more lowkey story. “exchanged fire” nothing so detailed as your source.
“At some point between 2pm and 3pm on Wednesday, a patrol from the Bislach Brigade training unit of the Israeli army was conducting searches of the Tal as-Sultan neighbourhood in Rafah.
They saw a small group of fighters moving between buildings, one of whom was later identified as Sinwar.
Using drones to help pinpoint the fighters’ locations, the patrol exchanged fire with the group, killing three fighters.
One fighter moved into a damaged building, and the patrol sent a drone after him.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/18/how-was-yahya-sinwar-killed-what-we-know-so-far

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 18 2024 19:15 utc | 132

@ necromancer | Oct 18 2024 13:37 utc | 52 Therefore defenseless due ineffective/inadequate ADS/ABM, scarcity of interceptors, let alone detection/tracking of inbound … Diego Garcia, and all its infrastructure, materiel, ordnance, personnel, insitu aircraft/vessels are within Ballistic & hypersonic missile barrage range of … Iran …
Offensive capability, with categories of indisputable near zero defense, is akin to charging into a medieval melee’ of armored knights/men-at-arms, wielding a deadly two handed Claymore … stark naked.
Works with mountain goat-herders, farmers with sandals & rusty Enfields/AKs, NOT peer/near peer militarily asymmetric fully capable strategic offense/defence, repeatedly declared enemy.
Cheers
@ Richard L | Oct 18 2024 12:43 utc | 42
Which is under greater surveillance/monitoring 24/7 ? Diego Garcia or backwoods AU RAAF Tindal ?
@ aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 15:42 utc | 76
Qty 4 B2s. Re-fueling/range data in original post. Re Diego Garcia, see above re 42. The whole point of strategic bomber design/capability re range & ability to mid-air refuel (anywhere, especially avoiding ISR in the middle of nowhere) more than once, is to avoid airbases/fields re disruptive unnecessary/wholly avoidable additional risk of detection/OP failure/F*ckups/compromise re landing/takeoff/human error/incompetence. The most dangerous transition for any airframe is approach & landing, & with a full bombay payload of 22,000Kg+ of bombs, wisely to be avoided, unless forced re unforeseen events.
See: Operation Eagle Claw, 1980 Delta Force failed operation re attempted rescue of US hostages held by Iran.
Cheers
@ abierno | Oct 18 2024 15:49 utc | 80
Well said. Bravo.
@ Valued insightful Irish friends/posters. Profound acceptable/privileged voices of ‘cut-through’ re indoctrinated/propagandized western populace prejudices …
IIRC, in early 1922 when the UK forces in Ireland Commander got restless feet waiting for the Irish Republics newly minted Military commander, Michael Collins to arrive, in order to complete the ceremonial formalities of handover at seat of power, Dublin(?) castle, where the 1916 Easter rising leaders had been drumhead court-martialed, sentenced & executed. Rudely said WTE”You’re Late! We’ve been kept waiting 15 minutes!”
Collins reply,”So ? We’ve waited centuries.”
Direct relevance to Sinwar/Palestinians re the arc of time & strategic patience/unbreakable determination/eventual justice.
@ fk_canuck | Oct 18 2024 15:45 utc | 77 = SeanAU, Deepshit/horrseguards, Lies, et al.
@ Inka | Oct 18 2024 16:10 utc | 90 “birds of a feather ..”

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 19:15 utc | 133

The massive invasion by British “Authorities” of Winstanley’s home is proof positive that the Sceptred Isle does not possess anything even vaguely similar to the First Amendment to the American Constitution.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 15:57 utc | 82
We dont have a constitution at all ! We’re subjects, not citizens.

Posted by: Red Star | Oct 18 2024 19:19 utc | 134

Can we stop with peal clutching over, the Jews may have lied about the Holocaust? You have been saturated with nonstop bullshit every single day of your life. What makes you think that in an era in which it was extremely difficult to know anything other than officialdom and nobody here was even alive, that in this particular instance of the Holocaust, we were given the absolute truth in its entirety.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 16:00 utc | 85
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Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 17:11 utc | 105
I don’t deny the Holocaust, I just deny your intelligence.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 18:23 utc | 118
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Sorry Turk, I read your comment a couple of times, but I did not catch the meaning of the first sentence: Can we stop with peal clutching over, the Jews may have lied about the Holocaust?
Yes I am stupid.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 19:22 utc | 135

So, did the USA Today say that Sinwar killed the hostages as well? Or did USA Today fail to mention what happened to the Hostages? I think that Netanyahu doesn’t care it the hostages die, as long as he can blame Hamas for it.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 18:50 utc | 125
Ed, I did not click on the link so as not to validate their BS. The title says it all.
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@bar
Please stop using the words terrorism and Palestinians in the same sentence. It is resistance, not terrorism. It is enshrined in international law.
They are protecting their home. Wouldn’t you do the same?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 19:25 utc | 136

Hello participants on the public forum of the Moon of Alabama website.
Beginning in April 2024 I started publishing articles with historic/religious context related to currently ongoing events. And I also explained how they are related to Bible prophecy. And some of the participants on this forum will probably remember it.
Since the saga of publishing my articles started here on this website, I would like to inform the participants on this forum that there is a new article online which I published today.
The title of the new article is:
“eve-el„
Subtitle:
How the woman accepted the belief that doing evil can make Eve become el
And you will find it at this URL:
http://prophet.am/“eve-el„
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Previously I had published the articles:

  • The Armenian Article
    A lengthy explanation of historic/religious context related to current events in the world.
    published in April 2024
  • The beast whose deadly wound was healed
    An article about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 13th 2024 and how it relates to Bible prophecy, with historic and religious context.
    published in July 2024
  • “Anything but Jesus„
    An article about how the opposition against Jesus Christ unites so many different factions, who outwardly are supposedly aligned against each other.
    published in August 2024

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How much the participants on this forum like or do not like my articles, I can not tell; I do not spend time to go through all the commentary here, I only check the headlines and leading articles of this website on a daily basis. But I can tell you for sure that the impact of the Truth of my articles did send shockwaves through the camp of the enemy, who was angered at being exposed by me when it comes to its secret machinations.
Not that I want to boast of myself, I give the praise to God.
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If you happen to find the information interesting which I have published in my articles, then please consider to disseminate the URL-links of my articles to whatever mailing-list you may have. That’s how you can help me to get the Word out.
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Please always use the http:// protocol to access the articles on my domain, because the enemy is interfering with access to them through the https:// protocol. People who are lead to my domain through the https:// protocol only see a default Plesk webpage, telling them that there supposedly is no website to be found at my domain, which is not true. My articles have been online all this time, only that they should be accessed through the http:// protocol. Server settings to redirect HTTP requests from the https:// protocol to the http:// protocol have been in place all this time, but the enemy has so many agents and backdoors in software, it’s not always easy to find out how they make these changes.
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I will also upload the new article, just as the previous ones, to the Wayback Machine, once they are fully operational again after them having been attacked recently by some hackers.
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I hope the information I provide and explain will be helpful for you.
Sincerely,
George

Posted by: George | Oct 18 2024 19:31 utc | 137

@ Ed4, all, evermore & always.
A truly awful existence, confined in darkness, beneath yer bridge, gazing out upon a world of daylight/color/love & joy, forever denied you. So sad.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 19:35 utc | 138

…
Can the B2 land with a full payload and empty fuel tanks? Its a flying wing with limited pitch range and small landing flaps.
Posted by: Richard L | Oct 18 2024 17:16 utc | 109

Yes.
Maximum Take-off Weight for most aircraft is considerably higher than Maximum Landing Weight. Hence only a moron would allow the payload of a plane to exceed MLW.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 18 2024 19:37 utc | 139

“stop using the words terrorism and Palestinians in the same sentence.”
oops, did it myself. Apologies.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 19:39 utc | 140

Useful hour here with Elijah Magnier
How Lebanon Is Resisting the US-Backed Israeli Invasion, w/ Elijah Magnier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJmPEC6YpE

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 18 2024 19:39 utc | 141

I don’t want to get too far afield but it never ceases to amaze me when smart people can identify some propaganda but believe wholeheartedly outrageous claims from the same source.
If we know government X lies, why do we discuss many of their claims as though they are truthful?
Think about that for a moment.
Napolitano and Johnson struggle with their government clearly enabling genocide (and when both candidates support the policy of child murder and assassination), while still trying to maintain all of the Enlightenment nonsense about liberty, and freedom.
Re: the holocaust (or any subject), remain forever skeptical if for no other reason than the (“quality of the”) source promoting that narrative so aggressively.
Are people (the West writ large) capable of credibly talking about the evils of the Holocaust while enabling their latest genocide?
I don’t think so. Life is short. I don’t have time for the cowardice of the Arab states, or the crocodile tears of white Westerners.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 18 2024 19:40 utc | 142

I had never heard of Sinwar before this wretched war.
He seems to have been a very capable man, who walked his own talk, operating in the most adverse circumstances.
They will be arguing for centuries about who contributed to causing his October 7, 2023 raid to be such a wild success, but the event stands in itself even at this short distance in time. A harpoon in the guts of things as they were.
He demands respect. The man who kicked out the one pebble that started a landslide. He will be a legend.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 18 2024 19:41 utc | 143

I feel exactly the same way about those who deny the Immaculate Conception. Or deny dogma over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Exactly.
Posted by: Robert e smith | Oct 18 2024 18:47 utc | 122
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Robert, the Holocaust is not a dogma, no miracles were involved, nor impossible conceptions required, just humans acting evil towards other human beings; just as we are seeing in Zionist Occupied Palestine today.
Acknowledging the reality of the Nazi Holocaust is in no way an excuse for the behavior of Israelis today, or for the last 75 years. But the Holocaust is a real historical event that should not be denied or swept under the rug.
Please see my apologies to Turk 152 @ # 136.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 19:55 utc | 144

They will be arguing for centuries about who contributed to causing his October 7, 2023 raid to be such a wild success
@Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 18 2024 19:41 utc | 144
Right, what help did the Israelis themselves contribute?
Was it, ignoring every aspect of the Hamas plan for October 7th?
Every aspect, including the part that said Hamas would try to lull Israel into complacency.
The current excuse from Israel is that Israel thought the plan was too ambitious for Hamas.
You can try and make that stick for certain parts of the plan but how
does that apply to the part where Hamas would try to lull Israel into complacency?
How?
How is trying to lull Israel into complacency “too ambitious” for Hamas?
Why is that hard?
Israel claims that they were complacent because lulling Israel into complacency
was seen as too ambitious for Hamas.

Got the picture?

Posted by: librul | Oct 18 2024 19:59 utc | 145

This thread confirms that the jews and their (bribed) Western Jew$lave$ still believe too much of Jewrael’s illogical balderdash. Lots of embarrasingly hilarious pratfalls coming soon…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 18 2024 19:59 utc | 146

Acknowledging the reality of the Nazi Holocaust is…
@Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 19:55 utc | 145
Which “reality” were you referring to?
Are you referring to the Limited Hangout version?
In that one, Zionists played no role as co-perpetrators of The Holocaust.
And Israel did NOT later protect said co-perpetrators with the full force of their justice system.

Posted by: librul | Oct 18 2024 20:03 utc | 147

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 19:25 utc | 137
@ LoveDonbass | Oct 18 2024 19:40 utc | 143
‘Tis most difficult, takes time, to accept & adjust to the realization that much that one ‘knows’, believes & has been taught(Edumacated in)/indoctrinated/overtly & subliminally/propagandized in, & holds to be ‘factual truth/fixed belief’, ongoing since birth, is false.
See: Plato, Existentialist Thoreau, et al, “Forget all that you believe & know & hold to be true … & begin again … (paraphrased/misquoted).
Henry D Thoreau – 1817-1862, an American philosopher, poet, environmental scientist, and political activist.
Peace Salaam Shalom
@ Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 18 2024 19:37 utc | 140
Yes, indeed one … can. Yet, given full bombay ordnance payload, fuel vapors in tanks, fatigue/exhaustion, needlessly/unnecessarily transitioning to a landing is most unwise, & avoidable additional risk, unless imposed circumstance in given operational situ, due SNAFU.
Cheers
PS Unless of course barnstorming for lols on a bomb run in a re-assembled Aussie WW1 biplane, covertly deployed from a derelict collins Sub, to teach them Arabs a lesson 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 20:07 utc | 148

Isn’t it time for hasbara to post a looong lengthy post in order to bury cogent posts?

Posted by: librul | Oct 18 2024 20:10 utc | 149

The supposed death of TWO-THIRDS of the World’s Jews in WWII is naught but an outrageous lie…by the usual suspects. Both the Jewish World Encyclopedia in 1946 and the International Red Cross indicated that the actual losses of Jewish lives were not even in the millions.
So who is to believe what?
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 15:47 utc | 78
OK. Have you some links? I would find them useful. Thanks.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 18 2024 20:11 utc | 150

30
Raul Hilberg’s comprehensive study showed between
5.1 million and 6 million died. The absurdity of holocaust denial is that the perpetrators didn’t deny it happened.

Posted by: Cavery | Oct 18 2024 20:12 utc | 151

In spite of arrests Londoners will not be silenced
heartwarming massive protests
https://x.com/i/status/1723600950600823213
London Hospital displays images of Israels child victims on its exterior
https://x.com/i/status/1752374693766508793
London Bridge displays images of Palestine
https://x.com/i/status/1781188929053462540

Posted by: ld | Oct 18 2024 20:14 utc | 152

Which is worse?
1) Holocaust Deniers
2) Gaza Genocide Deniers
Hint: they are both about genocide;
one relates to a past event (80 some years ago)
the other relates to an event being perpetrated RIGHT NOW

Posted by: librul | Oct 18 2024 20:15 utc | 153

According to the jackasses in the press and the talking heads, the death of Sinwar will bring peace. I’d say that there’s zero chance of any peace talks now. Whatever drugs they’re on, I don’t want any.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 18 2024 20:18 utc | 154

Posted by: Cavery | Oct 18 2024 20:12 utc | 152
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Good point Cavery, a very good point.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 18 2024 20:36 utc | 155

The death of Yahya Sinwar, the Hamas leader who has been at the center of the Israel-Palestine conflict, has triggered polarized reactions across the world. For some, particularly in Israel and the West, his death symbolizes a triumph over what they perceive as terrorism, and the hope of moving toward peace. But in Gaza and the broader Arab world, the reaction is the opposite . Many see Sinwar’s life and death not merely through the lens of violence but as part of a broader Palestinian struggle for dignity and autonomy, further fueled by decades of occupation and oppression.
The October 7th massacre is widely cited as the catalyst for Israel’s full-scale retaliation, which has resulted in the deaths of thousands of Palestinian civilians, including children. However, the narrative surrounding that day is now being questioned more rigorously. Initial reports in Western media depicted unverified allegations of unspeakable brutality by Hamas fighters, including accusations of rapes and massacres of infants. But these claims have since been debunked by various investigations, which revealed that much of the violence reported by Israel and repeated by mainstream media outlets was based on falsehoods. This raises the question: what role did these inflammatory claims play in justifying Israel’s disproportionate response?
What unfolded in Gaza since that day has been nothing short of catastrophic. The sheer scale of the destruction from Israel’s military strikes, which indiscriminately targeted civilian infrastructure, hospitals, and refugee camps, bears resemblance to the IDF’s use of the so-called Dhiya doctrine a military strategy invoking overwhelming force when faced with resistance from civilians.
The killing of civilians, particularly children, and the devastation wrought by aerial bombardments cannot be dismissed as mere collateral damage in the hunt for Hamas leadership. Rather, it has led to global outrage and criticism of Israel’s excessive use of force. It a genocide which everyone can see
Sinwar, in life, was both a symbol of Hamas’s resistance to Israeli occupation and a product of the intense pressures faced by Palestinians living under siege in Gaza. His path, which included over 20 years in Israeli prisons, where he was subjected to torture, forged him into a leader who would never entertain compromise with Israel. Yet the blame for the violence should not fall solely on Sinwar. Israel’s long-standing policies of occupation, land confiscation, and its blockade of Gaza are what have perpetuated cycles of resistance and violence. To paint Sinwar’s actions in isolation, without addressing the root causes of Palestinian anger, would be to grossly misunderstand the broader context of the conflict.
Sinwar’s death, however, provides Netanyahu with a chance to claim his much-desired “total victory.” With Sinwar gone, Netanyahu can present this moment as a pivotal success in the war on Hamas. But we must ask: is this truly a victory, or merely a fleeting tactical win that risks further entrenching the conflict? The ongoing suffering of Palestinians in Gaza continues, exacerbated by Israeli military strikes, making any claim of victory ring hollow. Netanyahu’s refusal to consider negotiations, coupled with the far-right demands of his coalition partners, suggests that a ceasefire or meaningful peace is far from his priority.
As we analyze the implications of Sinwar’s death, we must acknowledge that the broader narrative, particularly in Western media, has often been skewed. The disproportionate focus on Palestinian violence obscures the reality that Israel’s military response, including the killing of civilians, is rarely scrutinized with the same rigor. The human rights violations committed by Israel during the recent offensive, the displacement of Palestinians, and the destruction of Gaza’s infrastructure are not the signs of a just conflict but of an asymmetric war in which one side holds overwhelming power.
Sinwar’s death will not bring peace to the region. Rather, it risks deepening the divisions and inflaming further violence. Without a genuine attempt to address the root causes of Palestinian suffering—occupation, land rights, and the blockade—Israel may find itself in a perpetual cycle of retaliation, fueled by the rage of those who see no end to their oppression. If Netanyahu wishes to seize this moment to “win the peace,” as some optimistically suggest, he must reconsider Israel’s approach to Gaza, the West Bank, and the Palestinian people as a whole. Only a just peace, one that acknowledges the rights and humanity of Palestinians, will lead to any lasting resolution.
For now, the world watches to see whether this moment of tactical advantage for Israel will be leveraged toward a sustainable peace or used to further escalate the violence that has already scarred so many lives.

Posted by: J Levy | Oct 18 2024 20:40 utc | 156

@ librul | Oct 18 2024 20:10 utc | 150
They have been, since deleted post 1, onwards …
b is much recovered, gradually mounted & settled into the saddle, & recently been riding ever harder, re exterminating, infestations.
Cheers
@ Snowleopard | Oct 18 2024 20:11 utc | 151 = Ed4, et al. Word for word, MO. Another, frayed sock, no ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 20:40 utc | 157

In comparison to the courage and dignity of Sinwar, his murderers are mere shit stains on the underwear of humanity.
Vale, may his soul rest at peace.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 18 2024 20:45 utc | 158

RIP Yahya Sinwar. The description of your noble death brought tears to my eyes.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 18 2024 20:49 utc | 159

Posted by: Cavery | Oct 18 2024 20:12 utc | 152
Here is Ron Unz’s 17,600 word essay on the controversy around the Holocaust, which explicitly refers to Hilberg’s work. Why dont you get back to us after you have refuted every point, I am eagerly waiting for your response?
American Pravda: Holocaust Denial • 2h8m
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
I find these questions particulary intriguing:
Another obvious matter casts further doubt upon the historical quality of those five immensely thick volumes of standard Holocaust narrative, which together occupy nearly a linear foot on my bookshelves. For prosecutors of any crime, establishing a plausible motive is certainly an important goal, and in the case of the Jewish Holocaust, these authors would seem to have an easy task at hand. Hitler and his German colleagues had always claimed that the Jews overwhelmingly dominated Bolshevik Communism, and much of their struggle against the former was in order to prevent further bloody deeds of the latter. So surely devoting an early chapter or so to describing this central Nazi doctrine would provide an airtight explanation of what drove the Nazis to their fiendish slaughters, rendering fully explicable the horrifying events that would occupy the remainder of their text.
Yet oddly enough, an examination of their indexes for “Bolsheviks,” “Communism,” and all variants reveals almost no discussion of this important issue. Goldhagen’s 1996 book provides just a couple of short sentences spread across his 600 pages, and the other works seem to contain virtually nothing at all. Since all of these Holocaust books almost totally avoid Hitler’s self-declared motive for his anti-Jewish actions, they are forced to desperately search for alternative explanations, seeking clues buried deep within the German past or turning to psychoanalytical speculations or perhaps deciding that what they describe as the greatest massacre in all human history was undertaken out of sheer Nazi wickedness.”
Could it be that what Hitler and its Western allies that financed Nazisim, were really after the Jewish Bolshevik that had just killed off millions of Slavs in Russia?
I appreciate you, and your ilk, live in a context fee zone, but inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 20:50 utc | 160

Just so you guys know, this isn’t a free speech website, even when on topic. For example, on this topic only a narrow parameter of opinions are allowed, hence why there are so relatively few posts and they’re all effectively homogeneous. No one that isn’t effectively singing the pro-Hamas line is allowed to post.

Posted by: Moonraker | Oct 18 2024 21:10 utc | 161

Posted by: fk_canuck | Oct 18 2024 15:45 utc | 77
Not much imagination there sock puppet. My rooster has more hateful shit to say than canuck. Whats vile is calling for banning because his words shatter your safe place.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 18 2024 21:10 utc | 162

Posted by: Moonraker | Oct 18 2024 21:10 utc | 164
Absurd. Lots of pro Israeli idiots post all the time.
Not to mention the bible thumpers and holocaust deniers.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 18 2024 21:11 utc | 163

Posted by: Moonraker | Oct 18 2024 21:10 utc | 164
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Hamas is a liberation movement, ironically, created by Israel. The idea of human liberation is much more attractive than the exclusionary and racist Zionist ideology.
It seems congruent to me that people who oppose colonialism, genocide, and exploitation would find common ground.
Remember, most of us are talking about Israeli rapists and psychopaths who are LARPing against “Amalek”—race supremacists who happily punish and exclude non-white Jews. “Amalek” are so bad, but not so bad that Israeli incels won’t rape them.
It may also be that Nasrallah and Sinwar are much more heroic than Benzion Mileikowsky (Bibi Netanyahu’s Polish birth name) who hides in his shelters and begs the West for weapons to murder the unarmed women and children of Palestine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 18 2024 21:20 utc | 164

Henry D Thoreau – 1817-1862, an American philosopher, poet, environmental scientist, and political activist.
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 20:07 utc | 149
Outraged, Have you seen what they’ve done to his Walden Pond – all the nuclear waste and all?
Cheers.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 21:32 utc | 165

JAB @99:
You don’t name the poet. It was WB Yeats, for those who don’t know.

Posted by: SLM | Oct 18 2024 21:34 utc | 166

For those comments above going back and forth between what is genocide, etc., on the point of ww2 holocaust what is the point really, that the numbers are not ‘accurate’? Regardless of that they were still murdered brutally and scapegoated. And now with Palestinians the numbers are too safe or Israel will claim its fake that they are murdering hundreds of thousands. In the end Israeli’s believe they are superior and their lives are worth more than those they subjugate, just as the Germans did. I believe Israel will get its comeuppance much like Germany did. Much how like Jewish people were treated in Europe, now much of that has been flipped in which all Arab peoples are bad and “terrorists”.

Posted by: anon | Oct 18 2024 21:35 utc | 167

The dignified manner in which Yahya Sinwar has died, so at the antipodes of our so-called, by force of habit, “leaders of the “Collective West”” ( who are anything but that…), has aroused a sudden interest, both among alternative informants to the usual prestitutes of the media conglomerates of the past years, and among his delighted readers.
If Yahya Sinwar had not died like this, a person, let’s say, difficult to look at (by the superficial standards of beauty of the Western world…), with that emaciated face, alien to a smile, which for sure encompassed all the suffering inflicted on the Palestinian people since the first years of the Nakba, if he had not died like this, many of us would have been left with the image of a “terrorist” awarded to him by the “masters of the world” the other side of the Atlantic and their varied lackeys in Europe…
But, we read in the various and numerous biographies that he was an intelligent and well-educated person, an art student, an arabic philologue, a student leader…we also learn from his adventures that in Hamas’ Gaza there was at least a lively youth, with concerns and blood in its veins who used to meet to discuss “what needs to be done” to improve their lives, those of their people, and their future…and this way we understand why Gaza was like that, despite the overcrowding, that place with such astonishing standards of living with so many universities, hospitals, and even art centers supported by Sinwar himself….
A person who knows his language is capable of not only thinking rightly, but also describe things properly in his head and through his words, and, if moreover, he knows the language of the enemy, he for sure has a right idea on what and how the enemy thinks….
We also know that Sinwar, in addition to many other things he did in his not son long life, was also an author of books, where he did not spare self-criticism of his own movement, Hamas…. constructive criticism obviously made with the aim of improving things as he never left the movement as a disident….
It occurs to me that this Gaza, with such vibrant student movement, open to critical thinking and, therefore, to freedom of expression, together with unsuspected living standards in a de facto concentration camp subjected to the greatest blockades and deprivation, was a bad example for the decadent West where, with apparently eveyrthing in favor, even the wind, surprisingly, what reigns right now is the destruction of society and plain open savage robbery by extractive elites who hold the monopoly of force….How to explain this strident contrast amongst the results of the elites in Gaza, with so few resources, and our “elites”, including those in Israel, as part of the “Western world”? Especially the results of Netanyahu management….
The objective, as usual with the international Zionist mafia, was multiple, because, in addition to stealing their gas, it was necessary to eradicate this Gaza that, together with its determined inhabitants, acted as a beacon in these darkest hours of humanity, of not only endurance, but also good management, similar to what the USSR was in its early days … that is why it had to be destroyed as it was the USSR…so that the plundered Western population, inlcuding Israeli, could not compare themselves with anything…
For the same reason, it has become necessary for these scavenger beasts to destroy those neighborhoods of Lebanon where the people in charge has the bad custom of taking care of covering the basic needs of the people who reside there so that they preserve their life and dignity, and guide them towards a more promising future far from sickness and slavery, contrary to what it is the daily bread for the Western people, especially European one, which walk, blind and deaf, young and old, to willing suicide, and those who will survive direct to slavery.
Bad examples, no doubt, for the extractive Western “leadership” ( which are “leaders” only in Davos and their masters´ colonial authorities organizations, like NATO…leaders only in selling their countries to the transnational Anglo-Saxon capital…), and this is why they are, all along, in this together..
https://t.me/elespiadigital/20859

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Oct 18 2024 21:39 utc | 168

Ed @105:
Would that be the ongoing Holocaust in Gaza and Lebanon?

Posted by: SLM | Oct 18 2024 21:39 utc | 169

Praise God for the good work of many scholars including E. Michael Jones, a Catholic I deeply admire, for their tireless work domestically to push back against the infiltration of Holocaustianity into our beloved Church.
No, there is no sin for asking questions about the legitimacy of ever-expanding and outlandish claims of Jewish extermination. An extermination that was not mentioned in all three post-war autobiographical accounts from Churchhill, Roosevelt, and Stalin (?).
I remember the penultimate episode of the hoo-rah Band of Brothers series titled, “Why We Fight.” It was about liberating a concentration camp.
The effect this narrative has had has been terrible on my nation’s overall FP.
For those here who feel no deconstruction of the prevailing narrative is necessary, I see from this a giant red flag that they are not here in good faith.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 18 2024 21:41 utc | 170

Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 20:50 utc | 163–
The proclaimed aim of German leaders in both world wars was to eliminate Slavs. A certain percentage of Slavs were Jewish–their political affiliations didn’t matter one whit. It was their ethnicity that mattered and what got them slaughtered amongst 20+ million other Slavs. It’s the same in today’s Levant–your religion or politics doesn’t matter; if you’re not considered an ethnic Jew of some sort, you’re targeted for destruction. Why? The reason in both cases is the same–command of regional resources for the attacking ethnicity. The same formula is true for every genocide, all of which are holocausts. WW2’s Slav Holocaust wasn’t called that in the West for very obvious political reasons–The only good Red is a Dead Red, which replaced the earlier motto: The only Good Indian is a Dead Indian. As Wolff points out very well, genocide is the typical byproduct of Settler Colonialism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 18 2024 21:51 utc | 171

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 8:33 utc | 11
Isn’t this what we (Australia) were in ww2? That was the deal: keep Asia from our doorstep and you can use Australia as you wish. In the end mobilizing Australia’s fear of Asia and loss of umbilical Anglo-European links determines Canberra’s policies.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 18 2024 21:53 utc | 172

Just what exactly are the strategic gains except utter revulsion by the RoW?
Thanks for the posting in memory of Yahya Sinwar who died for a just cause.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 18 2024 17:08 utc | 103
I can list some of the strategic losses Israel has sustained so far…
-Withdrawal and cancellation of foreign investment in Israel due to fear of damage and of international boycotts due to international revulsion at Israeli behavior,
-International Court rulings against Israel lead to fear of divestment, boycott and sanctions by foreign investors, and arrest of Israeli officials abroad,
-Relationship with Arab “allies” at new low, jeopardizing existing “treaties” including the “Abraham Accords” and the highly valued Saudi recognition being taken off the table,
-Immigration into Israel dropping to zero
-Emigration expected to increase upon military demobilization, encouraged by long military deployments,
-Breakdown of relations with Haredi over compulsory military service brought by demands of over reliance on military activity, possibly contributing to emigration from Israel.
-revelation of the weakness of the Iron Dome missile defence system, and the consequent vulnerability of all of Israel to missile attack. This would further discourage foreign investment and immigration, and encourage emigration,
Feel free to add more…

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 18 2024 21:54 utc | 173

As a German, being drilled from childhood to always looking the other way at every item concerning jews, Israel, judaism, this genocide is making me really, really sick. Especially for German rightists it would be better but became more impossible each year, month and day further trying to stay kind of neutral, keep a kind of distance and shut up because “this is not our cause”.
Yes, the cause of the Palestinians is *of course* a just one and the leadership of Israel as the Zionists in general are “succeeding” in eliminating also what they claim to protect, serve and save: Jewish lives and the state of Israel. IMO it´s getting impossible for this entity to further exist from now on. I´m sure it will cease rather soon, hopefully along with it´s founding death cult, and the end will not be a good one: So much more death, suffering, pain, fear and panic to come… Also for the just inhabitants of Israel (a few of them are left for sure) and it´s – also – innocent children. May be for the planet´s mammals in general concerning “Samson option”.
It´s depressing to watch this tragedy unfolding to it´s culmination but there can be no peace before imo. Not within the region and not within the world.
Thanks to B and the barflies for all the informations, wisdom and love you share in these dark times.

Posted by: Blue Angel | Oct 18 2024 22:01 utc | 174

The beast whose deadly wound was healed
An article about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 13th 2024 and how it relates to Bible prophecy, with historic and religious context.
published in July 2024
Posted by: George | Oct 18 2024 19:31 utc | 138
George, if you are as committed to the truth as you say, don’t fall for ridiculous Trump “assassination” bedtime stories. Don’t listen to jews. https://tube.kansanvalta.org/w/hkFj4fUiCH9WzRNzLTTKSM

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 18 2024 22:02 utc | 175

George @138:
Bs! We do not need a religious maniac to add to the trolls that infect this site.

Posted by: Muph | Oct 18 2024 22:06 utc | 176

Covered in dust, breathing in his keffiyeh, wounded, alone in a rubble house, he throws a stick to the Zionist cowards drone. This is an incredibly heroic death.
I think he will inspire generations and probably a battalion will be named after him.

Posted by: Animal | Oct 18 2024 22:07 utc | 177

Posted by: canuck | Oct 18 2024 18:11 utc | 117
Jeez Canuck, stop trying to sound intelligent: ‘aporea’, are you serious? Every time you open your mouth you give away what a stone cold ignoramus you are. πόρος signifies ‘means’ or ‘pathway’, hence to have the resources to tackle a problem. Πόροι in the plural can mean ‘revenues or resources’. The verb πορίζω thus comes to mean ‘provide the means’. To be ἄπορος is the opposite, ‘to lack the resources to tackle a problem’. ἀπορία is the abstract noun: ‘impasse’, ‘the lack of solution’. It can be transliterated aporia, not aporea (ffs), and it doesn’t mean ‘unresolved’.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 18 2024 22:09 utc | 178

“If you fight us we will kill you. If you show concern or compassion, we will kill you also. We will kill you anyway.”
This is what Sinwar was fighting, he did not create that reality, he encountered it and fought.
https://t.me/youseffares19/55026

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 18 2024 22:24 utc | 179

UK goes after a journalist who works for the Electronic Intifada. Must be about 6 or so journalists they have accused of being “terrorists” now.
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UK police raid journalist’s home
Officers have searched the London residence of a pro-Palestinian activist, seizing electronic devices under anti-terrorism laws
UK counterterrorism police raided the London home of a journalist and associate editor of the Electronic Intifada website on Thursday, seizing several electronic devices. Asa Winstanley is known for his criticism of Israel’s military operation in Gaza.[…]
https://www.rt.com/news/605921-uk-police-raid-journalist-home/
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Posted by: teri | Oct 18 2024 22:32 utc | 180

Jeez is believed by Orthodox Christians to be Omniscient and Omnipotent.
How come? That’s a mystery.
Don’t listen to Patroniclus. He knows less than nothing himself.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 18 2024 22:37 utc | 181

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 18 2024 21:32 utc | 168
Alas, yes. Commercialized, vacuous, disney-like shite, uber alles. 🙁
Cheers
@ Ghost of Mozgovoy | Oct 18 2024 21:39 utc | 172
Outstanding! Majisterial.
Likely OT – maybe scroll on by
@ Patroklos | Oct 18 2024 21:53 utc | 176
WWII ? During & ever since, through to today.
See: US latest Congressional Research Paper, Report/Analysis on the travesty of yer AUKUS soveriegn subjugation & 100’s of Billions$ & counting in masked tribute to Empire.
AU re AUKUS is, from inception, optional contingency War Plan to use ‘expendable ‘AU as for Ukraine in multi/layered US ‘plausibly-deniable’ decapitating first strike on PRC, & substitute for indefensable/naked ‘tiny’ Diego Garcia/Guam, re PRC & increasingly DPRK, IMV.:(
Have visited remote Indigenous ‘settlements’ many long years ago in service, as part of year long extensive assignment from east to west coast hinterland, from below WWII ‘Brisbane line'(?) to the cape/from Wiepa(?) to Derby, up & down the coasts, in depth old school imagery collection with boots on the ground patrols, re legacy/historical strategic infrastructure Geo-Intel identification/discovery/collection/collation/analysis during WWII & post, in support of War Plans rebuild/re-activation re future contingencies. B-17/fighter/flying-boats relay airfields/runways/staging facilities/bases/resupply/hardened-protected storage … every damned inch …
Doubt few Aussies have a clue what is still extant and can be readily rapidly recovered/re-activated from under the scrub/overgrowth …
1901 constitution, white Australia policy, indigenous (blacks) not to be counted nor officially recorded re government statistics/government funding/services … government honored legal bounties for ‘carcases’ … lawful hunting parties into the thirties … ineligable to vote until ’70’s(?) …
Look what Empire puppets/extremists are currently doing to roll back hard won rights, never defeated Maori, signed Peace Treaty, in New Zealand (Aetorea), back to 1840’s(?).
US, FBI/COINTELPRO re AIM, just for starters. No treaty ever honored …
Canada …
5-Eyes, cankerous core of Empire since early WWII, true ‘bond’s’ run much, much deeper than mere, national ‘interests’. 🙁
Is VB still a knockdown ‘vitamin pill’, in a beer can ?
Likely OT – maybe scroll on by

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 22:43 utc | 182

Gaza’s Civil Defence says 33 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli raids on the Jabalia refugee camp and more than 70 others were wounded.
The government’s media office confirmed the number and said 21 of those killed were women.
– AJ live-blog
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16 minutes ago:
In further comments to Al Jazeera, a Gaza health ministry official said that several Palestinian civilians have died of hunger and thirst inside their homes in Jabalia as a result of Israel’s siege of northern Gaza.
A Gaza health ministry official told Al Jazeera that the bodies of dozens of dead Palestinians are currently scattered across the streets of Jabalia in northern Gaza.
54 minutes ago:
The communications blackout Israel imposed in northern Gaza has made it difficult for information about Israeli attacks to leave the area.
Palestinian journalistshave described the scenes inside the Jabalia refugee camp, an area currently being sieged by Israel, as apocalyptic.
Journalist Hossam Shabat said that on Friday it felt like “judgement day”, adding that Israel’s military was undertaking “a rapid extermination mission”.
Earlier on Friday, journalist Anas al-Sharif said thousands of families were “trapped between tanks, their gunfire, and heavy artillery shelling”.
– MEE live-blog
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Posted by: teri | Oct 18 2024 22:45 utc | 183

teri 186
Oliver Cromwell brought in freedom of speech and freedom of belief in 1640.
I know the British State has more important things on its mind, what with maiming and terrorising women and children in tents with massive bombs, and starving peaceful people to death.
All of which takes up time. But does it take nearly 400 years to implement one simple piece of legislation?
We weren’t allowed to talk about the African Slave trade, the Irish genocide, the British Raj, China , Malaysia, Balkans , Great War. But could we not introduce the new law now, because of the increased demand?

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 18 2024 22:52 utc | 184

Ed@1711
Have you truly and honestly done all possible research on the assumed Holocaust? Six Million? Maybe you should delve a bit deeper into that particular rabbit-hole.
The numbers of Holocaust “survivors” are huge. Many have received compensation from the forever occupied Germans. There are those who have CLAIMED to be “survivors”, including some well-known names who latterly have been found out as terminal liars. Does Elie Weasel ring a bell?

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 22:58 utc | 185

2 years in an Israeli jail, dragged in aged 27 and ejected aged 49, surely a human being’s best years, served only to deepen Sinwar’s commitment to his people. In those years he learned Hebrew and embarked on a profound analysis of the Israeli psychology, its strengths and its weaknesses. Much would have been gleaned from Israeli newspapers which guards would have happily provided in the vain belief that he might be “turned” to work for them – such is their hubris. October 7th was many years in the making in the mind of Sinwar. He calculated that they would let him get away with some sort of break out to give them the excuse they needed to finally and definitively crush the Gazan population and its infrastructure.
What the Israelis did not expect was the logistical brilliance of the Hamas operation. Sinwar was no Arafat, dining in the world’s best hotels, playing up to the world’s media and in the end achieving nothing. As hundreds of thousands of Israelis (many young and highly talented) abandon the country and Netanyahu lashes out wildly in all directions I see Sinwar on his chair swinging the stick at the Israeli drone.

Posted by: Valparaiso | Oct 18 2024 23:08 utc | 186

RedStar@1919
Thanks for the response. I feel your pain as being a subject of King Chuck, the last, instead of a nominally free individual protected by a Bill of Rights which is consistently violated by an immensely corrupted Feral and state court system.
Those so-called Judges are seated next to the yellow-fringed Admiralty flag, not the genuine American “Old Glory”. That indicates that they are operatives of the United $tates of America Corporation, duly entered under the corporate laws of the state formerly known as Delaware, but more properly signaled as the $tate of DuPont…the chemical warfare chiefs and also as the primary shareholder in General Motors.
Their fully owned assets also include the $enile One in the Tainted House located on Pennsylvania Avenue in the Di$trict of Corruption…as well as his giggling goose who never was properly elected to any public office, as his designated Veep.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 23:17 utc | 187

Why do I think the hit On Iran by Israel will be over a weekend and not through the week ?
For some reason the big shock and awe’s always felt to me as if they were On a weekend. Yet, I don”t think the stats back it up. I always seem to remember waking up over a weekend and something major has started through the night for some strange reason.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 18 2024 23:38 utc | 188

Snowleopard@2011
Thanks for the inquiry on the population stats published in the Jewish World Encyclopedia in 1946 and that of the International Red Cross. Sorry, but these statements were garnered by me from plausible internet sources more than ten years ago. We all have noted that much internet data which certain “interested” parties found to be “disruptive” to their narrative have been deleted by various psywar entities…certainly the Mo$$ad for starters.
Quite possibly MoA features a number of posters and lurkers who have been more assiduous than myself in maintaining logs of such information. Some 8 years ago the hard-drive for my ancient iMac were stolen by presumably interested parties. Yes, even census reports of some 80+ year vintages have been effectually erased. Hopefully, one of the individuals who are regulars or who visit this site, will be able to successfully respond to your query.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 23:42 utc | 189

Cavery@2012
Is it possible that Raul Hilberg has a dog in the fight? Is he a dispassionate and fully reliable source? Does this individual have an axe to grind? Is he a partisan believer…or a fully independent onlooker who publishes to maintain true accounts?
You may wish to explore Polish governmental sources as to the actual determined death totals in the Auschwitz work camp.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 23:48 utc | 190

Valparaiso@2328
Thanks. Well stated and to the point.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 18 2024 23:50 utc | 191

Oliver Cromwell brought in freedom of speech and freedom of belief in 1640.
That’s hard to believe. Doesn’t sound like the Puritan movement to me.
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/what-is-designation/heritage-highlights/did-oliver-cromwell-really-ban-christmas
Remember those that left for America thought Puritan’s were not strict enough.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 18 2024 23:51 utc | 192

“I don’t deny the Holocaust, I just deny your intelligence.”
Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 18 2024 18:23 utc | 118
😁 Hilarious.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 18 2024 23:53 utc | 193

Jews always lie. Whatever the lie is, it is always a whopping lie. If Satanistan says they didn’t know where Sinwar was, but every cow, sheep, dog or pig in England has a chip in its mouth or ears I presume Israel had a chip in his.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 19 2024 0:03 utc | 194

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 18 2024 17:18 utc | 110
Thank you, karlof1, for re-presenting yesterdays Dialogueworks link here. I went to it again, jumping over the earlier segments, and as usual the conversation deepened with Michael Hudson making my own objections much more diplomatically, explaining the difference in kind that is currently happening with the alignment of Nato countries against the rest of the world.
I saw, in the final moments of the conversation, the suggestion of the ‘first they came for…’ theme even for states within the US. The suggestion there is that even here, where it would seem there is no opposition to western hegemony, things are going on in opposition that will have teeth when that needs to happen, just as they have in Russia, and in Israel itself. Warriors, even non warriors, who die with a cause, are part of a new history at its beginning. As Prof. Wolff said, this is the conversation that needs to keep happening.
And at least, we here are still alive to have seen that. Thank you, b, very much.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 19 2024 0:04 utc | 195

“Holocaust deniers…”
“I feel the same way about people who deny The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 19:01 utc | 127
Hey arch, do you think L. Ron Hubbard might have been Jewish? I’m seeing a pattern here.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 19 2024 0:04 utc | 196

J. Levy @2040
As your presentation strikes me as genuinely humane and humanistic; I feel obliged to concur that your posted name is for real. That being so, you would represent a calm and civil voice for those Jewish men such as the Mate’s, father and son; along with such truth-seeking persons like Max Blumenthal, Ilan Pappe and many others who are truly described as Mensch.
Those of Judaic heritage may well face trials and tribulations right across the planet…to the point where even Bhutan, a Buddhist land without a Gross National Product, rather a Gross National Happiness…is amongst 30 nations (mostly Islamic or majority Muslim) who do not even allow Jews to enter their country.
Jews of good conscious have a huge responsibility to counter the “Chosen” myth which is so avidly promoted by the Sanhedrin and a high percentage of the Rabbinate. Zionism as practiced in the Zionist state is “giving” all five of the Judaic peoples a horrific reputation. In a planet which includes more than a billion Muslims…and a growing number of people from other traditions…rank prejudice, rather than discrete discrimination between those genocidal maniacs and decent and productive people who happen to be of Jewish heritage…may well overwhelm general sense and sensibility amongst the masses of 99% of the human race.
Yes, I fear for the futures of those Jews who are humans first and Jewish as a heritage of memes and norms… awakeners possessing attitudes and perspectives which are not mired in a Bronze Age cultural matrix.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 19 2024 0:14 utc | 197

Posted by: Valparaiso | Oct 18 2024 23:08 utc | 195
Thank you for this illuminating history of a moral freedom fighter.
I think this is the fate for most of us one way or another who resist the global tyranny that besets us.
They will kill us with bombs, they will kill us with poison, they will kill us with health fascism, they will kill us with lies.
But they can’t kill the truth. The truth can be buried under a mountain but it will always find its way to the surface.
Western five eyes governments are supporting this genocide by not condemning it!
Its that simple.
The hypocrisy of the entire western neoliberal edifice is there to behold in their inaction to stop a genocide in the making in real time.
Damn them all. They are no longer legitimate authority. They are a blob. Democracy is a lie.

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 19 2024 0:16 utc | 198

Celebrating Christmas was illegal in colonial New England.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 19 2024 0:18 utc | 199

Posted by: SLM | Oct 18 2024 21:39 utc | 173
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The American genocide in Palestine.
I think that this community understands that without America, there is no genocide.
And that both American political parties have the same policy on the mass murder of brown civilians in the Holy Land.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 19 2024 0:18 utc | 200