Debbie, 200:
Very impressive post. I agree with much of it, but really just appreciate the insights and synthesis, regardless. Some good signal to raise the SNR.

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 18 2024 22:55 utc | 203

@Debbie | Fri, 18 Oct 2024 22:11:00 GMT | 200

Having no clear military objective or the military force to achieve any political objectives, was a severe strategic mistake.

How do you know there are “no clear military objectives”? There are at least three that I know of- de-militarization of Ukraine, de-Nazification of Ukraine, and the restoration/annexation of occupied Russian territory – Kursk, the Donbas, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts.
As for force requirements, do you know the exact number of Russian forces needed to accomplish these goals? Do tell, master strategist.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 18 2024 23:15 utc | 205

With apologies to The Smiths…
“Panic in the offices of Berlin
Panic in the offices of Brussels
Hang the Zee guy
Hang the Zee guy
Hang the Zee guy…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 18 2024 23:25 utc | 207

It is your type apologist for Putin’s blunder after blunder that is main cause of Russian dithering in the war and preventing any decisive movement to win.
Posted by: Sam | Oct 18 2024 23:27 utc | 214
Dont talk fuckin bollox, man! Putin is playing it the way the Russian people want him too. Thats why he still has 78% for his actions! The fact is, hes draining the west of credibility whilst increasing Russia’s influence on the world stage as we will see in Kazan!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 18 2024 23:32 utc | 209

Dont talk fuckin bollox, man! Putin is playing it the way the Russian people want him too. Thats why he still has 78% for his actions! The fact is, hes draining the west of credibility whilst increasing Russia’s influence on the world stage as we will see in Kazan!
Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 18 2024 23:32 utc | 215
Correct hermie! Putin is playing the long game. Hes winning, hes keeping his population on his side, hes keeping relations with friendly countries sweet. All this while Ukraine and NATO is rolled back and shown up for what they are…paper tigers!

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 18 2024 23:59 utc | 211

Well, Anonymous, that 9 min video you linked to was worthwhile, I have to admit. It should probably replace your beloved DS maps, as even though that guy was pro-UAF, he had a lot of good insights and was able to remain objective.
Seems to me that the move to Malaya Loknia or however you spell it is a smart one, there are only so many supply roads into the north western pocket of the Kursk incursion, and cutting them off spells doom for whatever UAF or foreigners are left there.
Too bad for them. It seems like Russia is just toying with them, at this point. Rain/fog season is here so why not just wait for the weather to turn bad, and mass air drop in Russian special forces to take out bridges or secure them?
I really question how many UAF are left in that part of Kursk, at least … probably stragglers and meat recruits who can’t offer much resistance.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 19 2024 0:22 utc | 213

220:
Supposedly the rain/mud is affecting the RFA advance. (UFA also, but advances are harder.)
We are heading into a couple weeks of dry weather and the expectation is that this favors RFA advances more then UFA defense/sustainment.
Skruffy is quite good. After I watched his Pokrovk video from months ago, I understood the size of the challenge and why RFA couldn’t just waltz in there. I don’t agree with him no everything, but he is thoughtful.

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 19 2024 0:35 utc | 215

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 18 2024 23:32 utc | 215
Correct hermie! Putin is playing the long game. Hes winning, hes keeping his population on his side, hes keeping relations with friendly countries sweet. All this while Ukraine and NATO is rolled back and shown up for what they are…paper tigers!
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 18 2024 23:59 utc | 217
“Putin is playing the long game.”
The “long game” itself is a victory for Putin and Russia. The whole smo has been at the pace decided by russia…slow, methodical. Putin’s a smart fella!

Posted by: Fyador | Oct 19 2024 1:00 utc | 217

@ Debbie ? All. Actually = SeanAU…DeepShit/Complicated/MoonieCultist/stranger/horseguards/luis/DramaX/Moonraker/… NOT RSH.

Please choose ONE unique username and stick to it. Using multiple names is sockpuppeteering and will get you banned.

Your nic was born on Oct 17 2024 3:00 utc.
A quite remarkable initial spamming in three sequential posts, thence a tour de force of utter BS that would make the likes of Shadowbanned/1917/Anonymous proud.

My educated conclusion taking in all manner of studies and evidence is

So sad that you, will forever be unaware, you are a card carrying member of the Dunning-Kruger club. Sad, so very sad. Pitiable. Obsessed. Would you care for a virtual hug & a quite cry, faux Debbie ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 19 2024 1:28 utc | 219

@ Jens Skolen | Oct 19 2024 0:14 utc | 219
Yawn, another transparent sock. Imposed Unconditional Surrender, no less.
@ Debbie/SeanAU, et al. Apologies, overlooked your other aka, sockpuppet Crimethink. Rather rude to openly blatantly plagiarize & regurgitate, yet alas, that’s largely the limit of your abilities, along with dreary repetition, what. Oh, and if you actually purchased anything it wasn’t 3 pairs of shoes, it was another drawer full of virtual … socks. You even f*cked up the Judge Judy quote FFS, ‘but’ not by, D’Oh! PeterAU1 ? Your obsessions are not good for your failing mental health, sanity. Am concerned.
Do your lightbulbs, TV, command you to carry out your projected, deluded, extraordinarily generic, signature, faux virtual personas ? Virtual hug/quite cry, no ?
@b cleanup on ‘Ukraine Open Thread 2024-249’, yet again.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 19 2024 2:01 utc | 221

@paddy | Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:49:00 GMT | 101

Might have been different if FDR lived.
Churchill helped crush any hope for enduring peace.
NATO was formed the year the German Federal Republic, the 3 west zone was established 1949

FDR’s term was up in 1948, and no way he runs again. So either Truman or Dewey would have been president in ’49.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 19 2024 3:43 utc | 223

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 19 October 2024; 07:27 (GMT+3)⚡️
🔹In the #Kursk region, there are significant advances by the RFAF in the areas of #Viktorovka, #Martynovka and #Plekhovo. Without objective monitoring, it is too early to speak with certainty about the liberation of #Plekhovo without objective control personnel. They write from the ground about heavy battles. Nevertheless, the AFU defence was definitely broken through. A new element of the situation was two attempts to breach the border in the area of #Volfino and #Tetkino by two special forces groups of up to 8 men each. The enemy’s advance was revealed in advance by reconnaissance, and fire damage was inflicted. One group of the enemy was completely destroyed, the second with losses withdrew to the initial positions. The breakthrough of the border was not allowed, reports the ‘North Troops Grouping’. Units of the 106th Guards Airborne Division liberated the village of #Lyubimovka and the adjacent woodlands to it. Also, enemy resources wrote about the breakthrough of our armoured vehicles with a landing force in the direction of #Viktorovka, stating about the destruction of armoured vehicles, our dismounted landing force and the battle that ensued. There are reports about the liberation of #Leonidovo (east of #ZelenyShlyakh). The past day seriously complicated the position of the Nazis in the region.
🔹In the #Kupyansk direction, there is 👉 fighting in #Kruglyakovka, the zone of control of our troops in #Kolesnikovka is expanding.
🔹In #ChasovYar, the RFAF advanced in the Oktyabrsky (#Zhovtnevy) district up to Serov Street.
🔹In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) area, our troops occupied the southern part of the #Shcherbinovka village on the eastern bank of the Krivoy Torets River, which means a serious movement in the issue of covering #Toretsk from the south.
🔹In the #Pokrovsk direction, the coverage of #Selidovo continues.🗺👆To the south in the #Kurakhovo direction the RFAF are extending their zone of control south of #Maximilyanovka.
🛡During the night, the AFU attacked our regions with aircraft-type UAVs. The air defence forces destroyed and intercepted 16 Ukrainian UAVs. 13 UAVs were shot down over the territory of the #Bryansk region, 2 over the territory of the #Rostov region and 1 over the #Belgorod region.
🎯 The RFAF launched strikes over #Odessa region in the evening, reporting the destruction of an enemy air defence system. Geraniums were used during the night, including on the enemy’s capital region.

https://t.me/two_majors/34054

Posted by: Down South | Oct 19 2024 7:19 utc | 225

Perhaps Yeltsin or whomever master minded this on Russia’s side was as stupid or as corrupt as we thought-the Empire really f.cked that one up.
Posted by: canuck | Oct 18 2024 15:34 utc | 175

Yeltsin was the US candidate, select choice and puppet.
His task was to “liberate” all the Soviet Commons Assets
to the benefit of private individuals.
Then the sleeper Vladimir Putin was inserted.
Took a year or two for the US chickenhawks to realize this.
See the media climate changing to intensely bashing russia.
( especially in the “Putin’s Russia” leveraging domain.)

Posted by: MAKK | Oct 19 2024 8:10 utc | 227

Germany announces latest delivery of earlier decision re supplying Ukraine
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Germany has delivered eight Leopard 1 tanks, 20 infantry fighting vehicles, Iris-T SLM and Iris-T SLS air defense systems and other weapons to Ukraine; AIM-9L missiles and thousands of attack drones are being prepared for delivery, according to an updated list of weapons delivered to Ukraine on the German government website.
The list of weaponry delivered to Ukraine on the German government website was last updated on September 19. The website says AIM-9L missiles, two TRML-4D multifunctional radar stations, 4,000 combat drones, 361 Songbird reconnaissance drones, thousands of rounds of 40-millimeter ammunition and winter clothing are being prepared for delivery in the coming weeks.
viasputniknews

Posted by: Jo | Oct 19 2024 8:52 utc | 229

NK ORCS ABOUT TO ENTER THE SMO!!!
Western media is now promoting the narrative that North Korean troops (maybe in excess of 12,000) are training in eastern Russia and maybe employed to assist the RF in evicting the Nazis from the Kursk oblast. This information has come from highly reliable western intelligence sources including the South Korean intelligence services, so it is (extremely highly likely and probable) that this unwelcome development is true.
As if freight train loads of NK missiles and 152 mm ammunition are not a significant escalation, it is also implied that NK is sending washing machine and toaster chips as well as many thousands of specially sharpened shovels to aid the overstretched RF.
One glaring gap in the intelligence is whether or not the NK cannibal orcs will wield these demonic shovels against the UAF and western mercenaries themselves, or whether they will be simply donoted as aid to the Russian forces. Time will no doubt tell-particularly if BBC/CNN special correspondents are imbedded with the valiant Ukrainian forces in the Kursk direction.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 19 2024 9:21 utc | 231

This information has come from highly reliable western intelligence sources

I chortled at that.

Posted by: SOS | Oct 19 2024 9:24 utc | 233

Complicated @ Oct 19 2024 7:37 utc | 237
You lost me at the copy/paste insults in your list and by the fact your are not exactly a contributor either. People don’t live for this block so the vanish and reappear – and I do when I am too sick of this.
Your post is a vote for a block on yourself.

Posted by: SOS | Oct 19 2024 9:35 utc | 235

Posted by: Jo | Oct 19 2024 8:52 utc | 243
I wonder if they’ll be stupid enough to give the number of winter uniforms being supplied? Number crunching analysts love that sort of insignificantly significant data.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 19 2024 9:21 utc | 245
I’ve noticed an increase in these narrative shaping stories recently, wonder if their frequency is linked to either the front-line situation, Harris’ deteriorating poll position or both.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 19 2024 10:12 utc | 237

Ugledar direction as of the morning of 19.10.24…
Heavy fighting continues here in several areas at once. And it’s heavy for everyone.
Our units, having pushed through (precisely pushed through, not broken through) Maksimilianovka the day before, are trying to expand the bridgehead and expand it both to the south and to the west. As a result of yesterday’s fighting, they managed to reach the Kurakhovo-Donetsk highway south of the village and gain a foothold there
Our further advance here is extremely dangerous for the enemy. And not only in terms of holding Kurakhovo (I don’t expect quick results here), but also in terms of reaching the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces defense on the Bogoyavlenka-Novoukrainka line.
There were also active battles yesterday to liberate Katerinovka. There are partial successes.
And the fighting between Ugledar and Bogoyavlenka. Also with partial successes.
Let’s keep our fingers crossed and pray for the guys.

https://t.me/yurasumy/18621

Selidovo-Kurakhovskoye direction as of the morning of 10/19/24: Selidovo assault…
Here on the map there seem to be no particular changes, but the intensity of the fighting is constantly increasing. Our command has shifted all attention here to the assault on Selidovo, which has in fact already begun.
Yesterday we attacked not only bypassing the city from the north and south, but also occupied the railway construction plant on its northeastern outskirts.
The pressure on the enemy is being exerted along the entire perimeter of its defense, which does not allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces to understand where and with what force our attack will be carried out.
We keep our fingers crossed and pray for the guys.

https://t.me/yurasumy/18622

Toretsk direction as of the morning of 10/19/24…
There are no particular changes on the map here either. Which also does not reflect the situation. In Toretsk, there are constant “local battles” for one house or another, which will ultimately result in another district of the city being occupied by us in a few days.
To the north and west of Novgorodskoye (New York) is about the same story.
And I repeat, this is typical for this section of the front during the inter-assault period.
We keep our fingers crossed and pray for the guys.

https://t.me/yurasumy/18623

ChasovYar direction as of the morning of 19.10.24…
Here, as before (and as now near Toretsk) there are no sudden movements. The Russian Armed Forces are conducting a low-intensity offensive operation, in which our units are gradually (and if possible) advancing inside the Oktyabrsky microdistrict in Chasov Yar and in the south of the city in the industrial zone (which is mostly forested ravines and quarries).
Moreover, it is here that we have achieved the greatest success so far. And it is from here that we are already effectively threatening the enemy in Konstantinovka (until recently deep in the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces).
We keep our fingers crossed and pray for the guys.

https://t.me/yurasumy/18624

Limanskoye + Severskoye directions as of the morning of 19.10.24: if only these talents were put into the right direction…
According to updated data, some of our successes in this area are as “virtual” as the successes of one of our brigades in the Severskoye area.
Unfortunately, some of our commanders, who pay very little attention to equipping their troops with modern means of combat (EW, drones, communications), use them extremely effectively to “confirm” their victories in reports.
This is where their ingenuity and imagination work (it would be better if it worked in a different direction). And, unfortunately, the same drones (now the enemy’s, which fly further and further) do not provide an opportunity to verify their boasts.
Moreover, the further, the greater the “depth of breakthroughs”.
And all this so far only leads to an increase in senseless losses in personnel. Alas, I am forced to state this once again.
I am not making this public because I want to. I am writing because I do not see any other way to stop all this. Unfortunately, I no longer have any hope for effective checks from Moscow in this matter.

https://t.me/yurasumy/18625

Posted by: Down South | Oct 19 2024 10:38 utc | 239

In the Kursk direction, Russian troops were able to actually capture the village of Plekhovo. In particular, more than half of the village, which is semi-encircled, is under the control of the Russian Armed Forces (from the eastern outskirts, the Ukrainian garrison had to retreat, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces were in a fire pocket there and take more convenient positions in the western part), the rest of it is in the “gray zone”, where clashes are taking place. The Russians are using the tactic of enveloping from three sides and pushing out the Ukrainian units.

https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21265

In the Kursk direction, the Russian Armed Forces have broken through to the Viktorovka area.
Russian troops captured Novoivanovka and began moving into the rear of the Ukrainian group in the Malaya Loknya area (they are trying to squeeze the cauldron forming to the north). Russian airborne units attempted to enter Viktorovka at once, but they failed. Ukrainian troops were expecting such a move, and on the road from Novoivanovka to Viktorovka, the Ukrainian Armed Forces stopped the breakthrough. Ukrainian units destroyed three armored personnel carriers, but part of the Russian airborne forces managed to escape into the forests, and fighting is currently underway there.
Fighting also continues in the area of ​​Lyubimovka and Tolstoy Lug.

https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21267

In the Toretsk direction, Russian troops were able to make minor advances in the Leonidovka area.
In general, there are no significant changes in this section of the front. In Toretsk itself, local battles continue.

https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21268

Posted by: Down South | Oct 19 2024 10:46 utc | 241

@Cannuck 11
Quote. “Why bomb ‘decision making centers’ and possilby starting WW3 when you are WINNING!!!!
You redundant, pessimistic, myopic ‘song and dance’ is way, way out of tune
Posted by: canuck | Oct 17 2024 14:19 utc | 11
“It is your type apologist for Putin’s blunder after blunder that is main cause of Russian dithering in the war and preventing any decisive movement to win. And you dare call out others who say that decision making centres needed to be an isolated long time sgo-why is it that only Russia fears Escalation and WW 3 and not Anglos 5evil eyes ?”
Posted by: Sam | Oct 18 2024 23:27 utc | 214
You really don’t understand strategy do you, Sam?
Russia wasn’t ready for all out economic sanctions in 2014-Putin did the very least -he took back Crimea- while dithering with the Empire with the ‘treaties’ he know were bogus all in order to have time for Russia to be ready to withstand sanctions when the inevitable SMO came..
You don’t comprehend the Empire’s dire economic situation-they are broke, the debt is increasing logarithmically so the longer the SMO lasts the weaker the Empire.
You are now officially, an ‘Intellectual Peasant’.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 19 2024 11:00 utc | 243

Posted by: Milites | Oct 19 2024 10:12 utc | 251
I’ve noticed an increase in these narrative shaping stories recently, wonder if their frequency is linked to either the front-line situation, Harris’ deteriorating poll position or both.
Yes. I’m wondering if this new narrative initiative is a “softening up” exercise aimed at the western public for justification of military action in east Asia?
I reckon some sort of confrontation with the PRC (probably over control of the South China sea) has been an important long-term goal of western strategists for some time. Although things are not going particularly well for the West in Ukraine, and now the ME is boiling over, there may be some impetus to speed the whole shit show up.
I did not expect any immediate action against PRC and NK, but I think it was bound to happen within the next few years. Given the current situations in Europe and the ME the collective West might see itself getting overstretched and opt for a wider conflict while it still retains significant resources-that is before it becomes too embroiled in fighting RF and defending “little Israel”
I admit to speculation here, but the western rhetoric against the PRC and NK has definitely increased lately, and some political/strategic considerations must be driving this.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 19 2024 12:33 utc | 245

Posted by: PeterAU1 | Oct 19 2024 11:18 utc | 262
You are, I’m sure, aware of the state of the RuAF’s in 2014, and all the equipment they’ve received, since, then that has proved vital in allowing Russia to initiate, prosecute and escalate the SMO.
Having said that, given NATO clearly forgot, perhaps it’s a bit unfair to expect a poster on MoA to remember!

Posted by: Milites | Oct 19 2024 13:17 utc | 247

@ Milites | Oct 19 2024 13:17 utc | 266
You’re addressing an imposter/name stealer. Be ALert. We need more Lerts. 😉
See: Oct 19 2024 13:19 utc | 267
Cheers & Prost!

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 19 2024 13:23 utc | 249

@ HB_Norica | Oct 19 2024 13:23 utc | 269
You’re addressing one of the deranged ones now banned socks. Alas, such fun. 🙁
See: Oct 19 2024 13:19 utc | 267 & Oct 19 2024 13:23 utc | 268
Cheers

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 19 2024 13:30 utc | 251

It is impossible to reach the Yahya Sinwar thread from here…..an error appears instead…

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Oct 19 2024 13:38 utc | 253

Note that ‘attack aircraft” and “fighter bombers” are terms that also refer to assault troops, as in this case,
https://t.me/infomil_live/11196

And again Toretsk, and again the “Lavina” battalion of the 132nd Gorlovka brigade, and again the same attack aircraft , and yes, again TM in the window of the building with Ukrainian servicemen.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 19 2024 13:38 utc | 255

Note that “attack aircraft” and “fighter bombers” are terms that can also refer to assault troops, as in this case of manually throwing a tank mine (TM) through a window.
https://t.me/infomil_live/11196

And again Toretsk, and again the “Lavina” battalion of the 132nd Gorlovka brigade, and again the same attack aircraft , and yes, again TM in the window of the building with Ukrainian servicemen.

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 19 2024 13:42 utc | 257

@Grrry Bell #76

Did anyone watch the debate between John Helmer and Gilbert Doctorow on You Tube? Here mainly over Putin versus The Russian military (General Staff). The disagreements between Helmer and Doctorow are deep-seated. A lot turned on how they saw the thwarted ‘Istanbul’ Talks in March 2022 and whether Putin was conceding too much.

I also noted at the time that Putin was giving up a lot. And then the accord was rejected. And Zelensky started making irrational requests.
The whole of the SMO operation is a learning pfocess for Putin, Russia and the RoW including the America-leaning fifth-columnists living in those countries. Learning takes time.
I, and I think Putin and anyone who has followed US foreign policy sincd the 70’s, we all believed that neither the US nor Kiev aimed for a peaceful resolution. However, one needs to also convince the partners who are still under the charm of US pop culture that the leaddrs in Washington are really bad, cold, egocentric, idealistic oeople who do not share the dthical values of a majority of ghe world population.
In short Putin knew that the Istambul accords would be rejected by the West and that has become a fact on the ground for all to see. The purpose of the exercise was to convince those who still didn’t see it clearly that the US does not want peace in Ukraine, but is aiming at some other objective.

Posted by: Richard L | Oct 19 2024 14:26 utc | 259

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 19 2024 14:34 utc | 280

Russia and Ukraine exchanged prisoners in the 95-to-95 format
95 Russian servicemen were returned from captivity as part of an exchange with Ukraine, the Russian Defense Ministry stated.
Now Russian servicemen are on the territory of Belarus, where they are provided with psychological and medical assistance, as well as the opportunity to contact relatives, the department added.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/111025
No breakdown of the 95

Posted by: Down South | Oct 19 2024 15:33 utc | 261

Seems we have an entirely new class of NAFO trolls here.
Yes, the desperation is quite obvious now. They can no longer deny they’re losing therefore the immediate objective has switched to (as mentioned above) shaping a new narrative around the imminent collapse.
I’d say that indicates a clear move underway in the Kubler-Ross grief cycle from denial & anger to the bargaining phase. Next up is (severe) depression, ‘cuz acceptance will be extremely hard for NAFOs.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Oct 19 2024 15:45 utc | 263

I read earlier today from a Ukrainian source that a large percentage were Azovites (45ish?) from Mariupol.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 19 2024 15:40 utc | 282
Less, but in the 40% range, and yes, on the other side, that’s why I asked for confirmation but if down south says there is still no detail, I’ll wait.
Meanwhile, kursk seems to be loosing depth for the AFU to work normaly, this next text is a good example
MOSCOW, October 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Ka-52M helicopter crews have thwarted the rotation of Ukrainian troops in a border area in the borderline Kursk Region, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.
“Ka-52M helicopter crews from a combined arms tactical group thwarted the Ukrainian army’s rotation in a Kursk border area. While performing the combat mission to back ground troops, pilots launched missiles using coordinates provided by a forward air controller, wiping out Ukrainian troops and armored vehicles. After carrying out the attack, the crews performed an anti-missile maneuver at an extremely low altitude and released decoy flares to avoid being hit by enemy missiles. The forward air controller confirmed that the targets had been destroyed,” the statement reads.
The ministry also released footage of the attack.

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 19 2024 15:49 utc | 265

DS, 252:
Translation, they are stuck. Perhaps, probably, not forever. (I do think RFA has initiative.) But the main news of last day in that area was a failed RFA further advance.
To give it credit, the note is more honest than the worst such (the “resisted counterattacks” spin). But it still has a bit of that slant, versus direct reporting. Good detail though.
Maybe, I’m a little hard on it. But I’m just hep to the slant from some of these T channels, that don’t want a single post to break the meta narrative (even if the facts, even occasionally do).

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 19 2024 15:57 utc | 267

@ TJandTheBear | Oct 19 2024 15:45 utc | 283
Ah, no. This specific one has been around for many, many years, singularly deranged, periodically transiently obsessed. AU timezone, likely back again in ~5-6+hrs. 🙁
Serial wearer of socks & a nic/name imposter. Once it starts, unique consistent signature profile. Definitely is Not a fan of b. 😉
Cheers
@ Milites | Oct 19 2024 15:50 utc | 286
Most welcome. That would be a further burden for, recovering, one man band b. b prefers an open forum, with a light, ‘touch’. ‘It’ will pass. Prost!

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 19 2024 16:08 utc | 269

@YetAnotherAnon | Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:01:00 GMT | 263

but not the sort of force compatible with legal arguments about territorial waters – some of the rocks and waters China are claiming are far closer to the Philippines or Vietnam.

Kind of like how the Falklands/Malvinas are closer to Argentina than the UK? And yet perfectly legal for the UK to keep those islands.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 19 2024 22:44 utc | 271

See: Jens Skolen | Oct 20 2024 0:55 utc | 278
Imposed Unconditional Surrender, no less.
WWII, 3rd Reich & Imperial Japan ?
Potsdam Declaration July 26, 1945 ?
Victory in Europe Day, Germany’s unconditional surrender on 8/9 May 1945
Victory over Japan Day, Japan’s unconditional surrender. 15 Aug ’45/2 Sep ’45.
Would you like some FreeDumb Fries with that ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 20 2024 3:34 utc | 273

Slightly off topic. Biden receives Germany’s top award for blowing up Nordstream….
Maximum trolling of the vassal by the USA.
JB

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Oct 20 2024 5:12 utc | 275

@ William Manchester | Oct 20 2024 6:22 utc | 282
My Dear, dearest Willie, first(?) time poster ? Welcome to the Bar!
So, in summation, your premise is Empire/NATO/EU/Ukraine will win/have won, re the proxy war in Ukraine, and the wider conflict of which Ukraine is a useful entirely expendable sub-component, which you fail to even refer in context ?
My lying eyes must be deceiving me, as per your written words, ’cause that is not what every relevant consequential data point shows, nor the indisputable situ on the battlefield, nor the inevitable outcome re the War since early ’23.
A balanced, objective, non-partisan, rational analyses, NOT! Yawn. Flawed Intro, vacuous body, unsupported conclusions.
Just for the lol’s one tabulates: 10 Putins (along with ‘urged, officially, ‘s stance, did not, ‘s theory, ‘s failure (x2), reached out, then 23 mentions of ‘Russia’, 9 mentions of Ukraine, 5 mentions of NATO, 2 mentions of U.S., 0 Zelensky, 0 Empire/NATO leaders, excluding 2 refs from 2010 & 2014 ?!
Appearance of deliberately partisan, unobjective, biased, exclusionary, omission filled, slanted/incomplete context & key events, zero acknowledgement re Strategic situ, players, perceived objective outcomes, etc.
Omission of critical key events re 2004 & 2008. Also OUN-B, Neo & actual Nazi’s going back to at least WWII in The BanderaLands …
Now do the apposite Ukie/Empire failures/flaws Strategic failures, downwards that have led them to defeat, please ? Names, appointments, nations, leaders, dates/places/statements/policy declarations/aims & objectives, etc.
Mark: D-. No, an F. No a 404. ‘Cause it’s vacuous childish drivel. Incompetent infantile biased wholly unbalanced propaganda. Refs of minuscule relevance & inadequate to support argument/flawed conclusions nor referenced in the text in support(& no HTML tags/formatting). Must do much better … however unlikely.
History does indeed Matter, yet slanted/biased/BS contributes nothing.
Shadowbanned’s half/younger/older-brother ?
‘Cause you certainly write with his voice … in restraints.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 20 2024 7:33 utc | 277

@ Dear Willlie
Now do the apposite Ukie/Empire failures/flaws Strategic failures, downwards that have led them to defeat, please ? No ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 20 2024 13:32 utc | 279

@William Manchester | Oct 20 2024 6:22 utc | 282
So many mistakes … from just one side. They are doomed for sure ); .

Posted by: Richard L | Oct 20 2024 16:17 utc | 281

@William Manchester | Oct 20 2024 6:22 utc | 282
So many mistakes … from just one side. They are doomed for sure ); .
Posted by: Richard L | Oct 20 2024 16:17 utc | 287

Looks like the usual light weight trolling. It’s easy being a cheerleader for a sports team or your favorite country because it does not take any thinking or knowledge.
Russia nor Putin are “doomed”. Far from it.
But the actual History still Matters!
A strategic mistake is what it is and they all have an impact, in both the short and long term. Failing to objectively recognize these historical facts is nothing to be proud of. Ukraine and the US and Nato too have made strategic mistakes. But that was not the topic of my comment in responding to what others were saying here.
A decade ago now the two Donbass republics were begging Putin to bring them formally into Russia. That denial affected everything since and has cost lives. Putin accepting the lies of Holland Merkel and Ukraine with the Minsk accords mattered and has cost lives – both Russian and Ukrainian lives – civilians included.
Putin dithering with the US and NATO over security concerns from 2007 in particular onward has not strengthened Russia’s position, nor Putin’s. Putin referring to liars and cheats as “our partners” for decades matters.
Of course none of this matters to a shallow cheer-leading troll who can’t see this is not surprising. These kinds of frivolous inane comments are standard fare in this kind of environment.
But there are few quite intelligent objective people here who actually are interested in the history and know all the historical details matter – and they add up in ways unforeseen when ignored.

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 21 2024 1:02 utc | 283