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October 13, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-245
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Because all the thing about no sock puppets would be irrelevant and a fucking joke. Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 10:57 utc | 201 “Well, I just have a bit zen-style, reduced style of writing. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 15 2024 8:17 utc | 196 Every single day the Russian population falls by 1500 people. And that isn’t counting their war casualties. That is just their death rate + emigration + birthrate + immigration. Net -1500 per day. That is 550,000 people per year. Posted by: Andrew Perpetua | Oct 15 2024 11:25 utc | 204 I for one appreciate Vargas for his short comments. Posting in the form of a question is not a bad thing. The socratic method, and all that. Better than the long rants and idiotic shadowbanned wannabes. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 15 2024 11:55 utc | 205 By the end of the century, assuming no black swan events, Russian population will fall to around 120-130 million depending which projection you enjoy. However, others believe it could fall under 100 million if the country enters a great depression type event after the war. Posted by: Andrew Perpetua | Oct 15 2024 11:57 utc | 206 Andrew Perpetua | Oct 15 2024 11:25 utc | 207 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 15 2024 11:59 utc | 207 Russia is nuking its entire economy (the real one, not the value of the GDP) in that “SMO”. Russian is suffering from brain drain, the social systems are crippled, its capability to trade with the west is also crippled and have to sell oil and LNG at sales price to others countries that only want the raw resources. If tomorrow the war ends it would require a significant amounth of time to get the relations with the west at the same level as before the war, and earned every single one of those problems. Posted by: Huma Dracobane | Oct 15 2024 12:12 utc | 208 Posted by: Andrew Perpetua | Oct 15 2024 11:57 utc | 209 Posted by: Mario | Oct 15 2024 12:21 utc | 209 Posted by: Huma Dracobane | Oct 15 2024 12:12 utc | 211 Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 12:35 utc | 210 For everyone trying to use maths to predict the future: Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 15 2024 12:39 utc | 211 @ Mario | Oct 15 2024 12:21 utc | 212 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 15 2024 12:45 utc | 212 That would mean RU irretrievable is 83k. Posted by: Newbie | Oct 15 2024 12:58 utc | 213 S has a new post, including a point I discussed some weeks ago, going behind the AFU southern line, is discussed but with an absurd pressing from the south, instead of closing the mother of all cauldrons by a drive to zaporizhzhya through the E105 (ignoring a probe already took place in kamyanske) Posted by: Newbie | Oct 15 2024 13:11 utc | 214 Newbie@217…..well that might make sense to someone with no rublesdollarssheckles in the game. It’s a commerce war….er, SlogMow….any sense of doing what would seem prudent gets tossed out, especially if it impedes that commerce flow. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 15 2024 13:41 utc | 215 206: Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 15 2024 15:16 utc | 216 (apologies if someone has already commented on this, I’ve double checked but perhaps my eyes glazed over when confronted with the usual suspects)
When the flow of wunderwaffe into Ukraine loses both its momentum and raison d’être, the West turns to its old standby: ‘Money, Money’.
So there we have it, where NATO fails, Western finance will succeed. How Russia will eventually respond to the daylight robbery of its frozen interest, never mind the future appropriation of its foreign reserves will be something to behold (cue the troll-fly bleating that Putin should have nuked the World Bank headquarters as soon as the sanctions kicked in). Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 15 2024 15:38 utc | 217 Can’t tell if this is an S-300 strike but it looks effective.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2024 16:08 utc | 218 I forgot to add, tomorrow on the 16th October, Zelensky finally unveils his ‘victory plan’ in the Ukrainian parliament. According to big chief Mikhail Podoliak, the ‘plan’ should it be implemented will, wait for it…
Apparently the West should “Stop looking at what is going on with infantilism” and “If we do ten times more than now, use enough resources, we will have a massive upscale of the war in the Russian territory, and social changes in Russia will follow.” Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 15 2024 16:26 utc | 219 @Posted by: Andrew Perpetua | Oct 15 2024 11:25 utc | 207
Official demographic figures take into account any deaths, including those at the front i.e. “war casualties”. Quite a chunk of these were also from Russian jails, so more a gain than a loss to society. Russia is very carefully managing the war to limit its own casualties, as evidenced by the Mediazona numbers; the state values its able bodied working age population. anon2020 @ 221
Can AD missiles be use this way? The accuracy was amazing and all fell straight down at 90 degrees. One of the more amazing missile strikes of the SMO, if it was an Iskander strike it was very expensive, whatever was thought to be in there was seen as very important, so far not much info. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 15 2024 16:47 utc | 221 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 15 2024 16:47 utc | 222
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/65661
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2024 18:05 utc | 222 Can AD missiles be use this way? The accuracy was amazing and all fell straight down at 90 degrees. One of the more amazing missile strikes of the SMO, if it was an Iskander strike it was very expensive, whatever was thought to be in there was seen as very important, so far not much info. Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 18:15 utc | 223
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2024 18:39 utc | 224 Seems a bit messy re-purposing an air defence missile for ground targets, especially when there’s a range of other weapons already optimised for this. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 15 2024 19:26 utc | 225 @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 15 2024 19:26 utc | 226 Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 19:44 utc | 226 Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 19:44 utc | 227 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 15 2024 20:09 utc | 227
https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/theseus
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 15 2024 20:23 utc | 228 @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 15 2024 20:09 utc | 228 Posted by: NoName | Oct 15 2024 20:39 utc | 229 So sad that all of Ukraine and most of Russia will have countless of disabled people roaming around, often times forgotten and neglected. Suicides will sky rocket, alcoholism and a massive hit to the workforce but look at the bright side, all of this is most likely part of the western plan for Eastern Europe, those who do not bend the knee will pay the price. Posted by: rebel one | Oct 15 2024 21:55 utc | 230 @Newbie | Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:58:00 GMT | 214
Indeed, it is confusing. Body counts aren’t a real great metric to use, since the parties involved have vested interests in not being forthcoming with the true number. Third parties can only use open sources, which have limitations, like with counting headstones in graveyards. Posted by: James M. | Oct 15 2024 23:41 utc | 231 Any intelligence, or informed speculation, of what was so important about the Dnipro factory bombed 5 times by accurate missile strikes? Posted by: scepticalSOB | Oct 16 2024 7:12 utc | 232 @ LightYearsFromHome | Oct 15 2024 16:47 utc | 222 Helmer: Dmitry Rogozin For President Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 16 2024 9:15 utc | 234 @Newbie | Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:58:00 GMT | 214 Posted by: Newbie | Oct 16 2024 9:47 utc | 235
And what will the population of the EU be at the end of the century? Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Oct 16 2024 22:19 utc | 236
In my youth living in Germany (in the 70’s) I often saw disabled people missing limbs. Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Oct 16 2024 22:29 utc | 237 Putin made everything dirty and trashed any progress people made in spite of him, not because of him at every level. The economy is at breaking point, the military is humiliated and he’s exacerbated the demographic crisis in his country. He’s writing his name in the history books. In crayon. Posted by: Technoinalbania | Oct 17 2024 1:23 utc | 238 How many troops does Russia have in Ukraine and in the Kursk area? Russians on Telegram are always talking about lack of personnel: Posted by: MiniMO | Oct 17 2024 3:04 utc | 239 |
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