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October 13, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-245
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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And that’s just Pokrovsk (I myself had been tricked into a false sense of it imminently falling a couple months ago; once again wrong any time a tiny bit of hope appears). Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 14:26 utc | 1 1917 (1): Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 14:47 utc | 2 Soviético | Oct 13 2024 14:36 utc | 2 translated:
… along with anonymous. Shift has started, so tedious. Ukraine Weekly Update, 11th Oct 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-6c7 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Oct 13 2024 15:08 utc | 4 This war ended in 1617 when Russia reached the Pacific Ocean. The heart of Eurasia now belongs to a powerful and definitive owner. Since then there have been only greedy throes from the Teutonic and Anglo-Saxon (and Japanese), hungry, decadent and endangered (out of repulsion towards good sex…). Posted by: Willian in The Sky | Oct 13 2024 15:13 utc | 5 Soviético | Oct 13 2024 15:17 utc | 8 translated:
LOL 🙂 What in sam hell does ‘tabelinha’ mean ? In recent news, the Russians have been shamed by the Noble Committee for their ignominious threatenings over Ukraine; violation of the post-war status quo, which says we mustn’t openly discuss “nuking” each other (how very rude of them, how Tartarian). And they, the esteemable Noble politicos, make a point to say that it’s 80yrs. time since these bombs were first dropped, and the world will do well to not backslide, implying of course, that the Russkies are causing this slippage, taking the world to the brink. Posted by: Nothingburgers | Oct 13 2024 15:35 utc | 7 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 13 2024 15:30 utc | 9+ Posted by: adesanto | Oct 13 2024 15:36 utc | 8 shadowbanned | Oct 13 2024 14:26 utc | 1 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 13 2024 15:51 utc | 9 Yawn, I’ll return when there are thoughts worth discussing. Ill sidestep the sophomoric Western propagandist vomit on the floor. Watch your step, don’t slip in the desperation. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 13 2024 15:58 utc | 10 So here are these “paid advertisers” for the Agency, Mossad, MI6 or similar nefarious entities; splattering their dung all across the early postings on this thread. Well, maybe they could be Canuckistani Ukrainian retreads whose parents were D.P.’s back in the day. Quite tedious, they are. Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 13 2024 15:59 utc | 11 Anonymous (3): Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 16:11 utc | 12 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 14:26 utc | 1 Posted by: alek_a | Oct 13 2024 16:14 utc | 13 Instead of calling people trolls and paid shills, it would be a good idea to present a factual refutation of what is being presented as objective facts. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 16:19 utc | 14 Technossomy @ 5 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 13 2024 16:26 utc | 16
The military-technical solution is well known: Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 16:28 utc | 17
Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 16:19 utc | 19 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 16:39 utc | 18 On topic (I hope) two doctors at Imperial College in London have developed a low-cost external bone fixator kit, which is being trialled in Ukraine, Sri Lanka and Gaza. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 13 2024 16:43 utc | 19 reply to 1, 17 Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 13 2024 16:55 utc | 20 All things considered (not only military), it appears to me Russia’s progress toward victory is reaching the steep part of the exponential curve, approaching the “suddenly” in the expression, “first slowly, then suddenly.” Posted by: norecovery | Oct 13 2024 17:00 utc | 21
In Russia such kits have been produced by the score for years already. Posted by: Bim | Oct 13 2024 17:09 utc | 22 I said 100 times. Posted by: vargas | Oct 13 2024 17:12 utc | 23 @ adesanto | Oct 13 2024 15:36 utc | 8
Alas, ’tis so. I think for the most people the word “Scaling” still does not make any sense at all Posted by: Macpott | Oct 13 2024 17:18 utc | 25 Bim | Oct 13 2024 17:09 utc | 23 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 13 2024 17:22 utc | 26 Looks like Russia is going to find some comfortable lines to settle on in the winter and prepare for a winter campaign, more long range strikes with special forces surprise attacks. Arestovich is predicting a russian strategic offensive. That seems a little much but maybe an attack over a frozen river or starting a buffer zone in ukraine with a big push into sumy to start. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Oct 13 2024 17:33 utc | 27 Honestly why do people keep falling for the bait? Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 13 2024 17:33 utc | 28 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 16:19 utc | 14 Posted by: kupkee | Oct 13 2024 17:47 utc | 29
Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 17:47 utc | 30
Russian regulations strongly recommend that anything going inside a bone is made of Titanium. That makes nails more expensive but as Ti is abundant in Russia not much more expensive. And aluminium as considered not strong enough, so the outer parts are made of steel, which is a bit more expensive as well but also abundant. Anyway Doctor Tsukanov have been reinventing these kits cheaper and cheper for 35 years already and they are affordable but reliable. Posted by: Bim | Oct 13 2024 17:48 utc | 31
https://t.me/Taynaya_kantselyariya/11243
Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 17:53 utc | 32
Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 17:57 utc | 33
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24599
Posted by: Down Douth | Oct 13 2024 18:00 utc | 34
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24601 Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 18:03 utc | 35 If Ukraine manages to force Russia into a ceasefire(official or non-verbal) it would be a massive loss for Russia. Basically any time US wants to get back at Russia for the next 50 years they will be able to phone the proxy and order a strike inside Russia. They would have them by the balls so to speak Posted by: UndeniablyReasonable | Oct 13 2024 18:05 utc | 36
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21204
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21206
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21208 Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 18:07 utc | 37 UAF has failed to break through to its encircled troops at Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 18:09 utc | 38
Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 18:12 utc | 39 Alas, ’tis so. Posted by: Naive | Oct 13 2024 18:16 utc | 40 Posted by: vargas | Oct 13 2024 17:12 utc | 23 Posted by: Naive | Oct 13 2024 18:24 utc | 41 Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 17:47 utc | 30 &C
as it highlights the financial attrition Ukraine is undergoing, something that certain commenters refuse to even acknowledge. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 18:29 utc | 42 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 13 2024 16:43 utc | 19 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 13 2024 18:37 utc | 43 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 13 2024 16:23 utc | 15 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 18:38 utc | 44 Macpott at post 25 . My associate at OSB has something to say about scaling . In my view ” If I can create an explosion in my chemistry lab then am I competent enough to create a nuclear explosion ” ROFL . Over to Gerry Maddoux –oil engineer par excellence . If you don’t know the maths and physics behind scaling it is a waste of time . Posted by: hole in head | Oct 13 2024 18:43 utc | 45 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 18:38 utc | 44 Posted by: Boo | Oct 13 2024 18:50 utc | 46 Posted by: Down South | Oct 13 2024 17:47 utc | 30 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 13 2024 18:57 utc | 47 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 18:38 utc | 44 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 13 2024 19:00 utc | 48 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 18:38 utc | 44 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 13 2024 19:06 utc | 49 Everything Russia is not doing to win may be because Ukraine is the theater not the show. Keeping the black hole that is Ukraine sucking in nato resources and men,bankrupting the EU and US while exposing the weakness and moral bankruptcy of the west is setting table for a new world order which the defeat of Ukraine does not achieve. Posted by: NewWorldDisorder | Oct 13 2024 19:12 utc | 50 It’s atrocity time once more with the BBC headline screaming: Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 13 2024 19:13 utc | 51 Muh European unity…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 19:18 utc | 52 Reading the relentless copium from the retarded cultists is sweet joy. Zero Nato troops killed. Posted by: MoonieCultist | Oct 13 2024 19:31 utc | 53 Posted by: hole in head | Oct 13 2024 18:43 utc | 45 Posted by: Macpott | Oct 13 2024 19:38 utc | 54 Posted by: Boo | Oct 13 2024 18:50 utc | 46 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 19:42 utc | 55
Posted by: MoonieCultist | Oct 13 2024 19:31 utc | 53 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 19:49 utc | 56 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 13 2024 19:00 utc | 48 Posted by: hopehely | Oct 13 2024 19:56 utc | 57
According to the Kiev regime’s ambitions, hundreds of thousands of ‘wannabe’ NATO troops have already been killed along with thousands of NATO trained & funded mercenaries, advisors and technicians. Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 13 2024 19:58 utc | 58 Posted by: FakeBelieve | Oct 13 2024 19:13 utc | 51 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 19:59 utc | 59 A while ago it was the sensible consensus here that the conflict would go on more or less as long as the US wanted it too, that Team Zelensky could ramp up the fascism and press gangs so long as the US delivered necessary supplies, a literal exhaustion of mobilisation victims was seen as a long way off. Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 13 2024 20:46 utc | 60 Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 13 2024 20:46 utc | 60 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 21:02 utc | 61 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 16:19 utc | 14 Posted by: snake | Oct 13 2024 21:07 utc | 62 The bar consensus has actually got dumber – or “stupider”, as it were – under the weight of hype and cope pedalled here. Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 21:11 utc | 63 I am uncertain about the MoA you are referencing, but it does not appear to be this one, Mr. Anon. Hype and Cope serves as a fundamental element of sustenance in Kiev and the west. Wasn’t it your lot that consistently asserted that Kiev was “winning,” claiming that Russia was engaging in combat with shovels and repurposed chips from washing machines? Was it not your group that asserted Putin was suffering from cancer? Was it not your group that asserted you would be sunbathing on the beaches of Crimea by the summer of 2022? What, then, of the purported million-man army that was said to be in the process of formation? Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 13 2024 21:13 utc | 64 So the Russian Federation continues the war against NATO that the latter is in denial over; keeps getting rid of the non-existent Nazis in Ukraine; keeps up the attrition and de-militarization of Ukrainian AND NATO gear; and so on. Posted by: N. Hanrahan | Oct 13 2024 21:18 utc | 65 Hype and Cope serves as a fundamental element of sustenance in Kiev and the west. Posted by: The Flying Scotsman | Oct 13 2024 21:20 utc | 66 Gosh, the vermin are out in force again. Sigh. I can say that I’ve gotten much better at recognizing their styles, so less of my time is wasted with their bleatings. (Do vermin bleat?) Posted by: Hunsdon | Oct 13 2024 21:21 utc | 67 THATS TRUE. MOST FOLK TURN OFF WHEN ZELENSKY IS IS THE TV. THEY KNOW ITS ALL BUNKUM WHAT HE SAYS Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 13 2024 21:27 utc | 68 Interesting information on territory from Willy, basically confirming my impression, that RFA was slowing down: Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 21:38 utc | 69 Chabad controls both sides. Posted by: cirnosad | Oct 13 2024 21:44 utc | 71 @ Anonymous, §§69, 70: Posted by: John Marks | Oct 13 2024 21:53 utc | 72 Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 21:38 utc | 69 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 21:56 utc | 73 @ Anonymous, §§69, 70: Posted by: Fyador | Oct 13 2024 22:06 utc | 74 “At the current rate of ~500 km^2 of territory taken a month, Russia will take over the whole of Ukraine some time in the early 22nd century. Yes, you read that correct.” Posted by: Neven | Oct 13 2024 22:07 utc | 75 Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 21:38 utc | 69 Posted by: The Flying Scotsman | Oct 13 2024 22:10 utc | 76 72, I prorated OCT and showed the math behind it. We are on track to 275. Have 109 now. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 22:14 utc | 77 Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 13 2024 22:14 utc | 77 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 22:19 utc | 78 There is a Wiki site that quickly allows estimates of area taken Posted by: watcher | Oct 13 2024 22:29 utc | 79
Source : https://t.me/mozhemobyasnit/19082 Posted by: Chris O | Oct 13 2024 22:47 utc | 80 517,000 Ukie dead in SMO. Posted by: Surferket | Oct 13 2024 22:51 utc | 81
Source : https://t.me/ChelFuture/7361 Posted by: Chris O | Oct 13 2024 22:56 utc | 82 RUSSIA WILL REBUILD EVERYTHING DESTROYED IN DONBAS – PRESIDENT PUTIN Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 23:07 utc | 83 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 23:07 utc | 83 Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 13 2024 23:21 utc | 84 RUSSIA WILL REBUILD EVERYTHING DESTROYED IN DONBAS – PRESIDENT PUTIN Posted by: Fyador | Oct 13 2024 23:42 utc | 85
There are 480,000 square kilometers left to take. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 23:52 utc | 86
Nobody is talking about indiscriminate bombing. That will not win the war anyway. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 23:52 utc | 87
Attrition destroyed Germany in WWI and Germany and Japan in WWII because both of those were cut off from external supplies.
See above. Germany was getting supplies from all of Europe, but only France, Belgium the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway were on its western side. As the Soviets moved east, they took over territories that Germany used to supply its war effort, and thus the collapse accelerated. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 23:53 utc | 88 Thats a total of 1,136 square kilometres in 4 and a half months. I’d say thats not bad at all. Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 13 2024 23:59 utc | 89 The poster with the year of the Russian revolution: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 14 2024 0:01 utc | 90 Ukraine is in for a very, very cold winter thanks to the Volo and his UK masters…. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 14 2024 0:04 utc | 91 _____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Oct 14 2024 0:09 utc | 92 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 13 2024 19:49 utc | 56 Posted by: Naive | Oct 14 2024 0:20 utc | 93 Posted by: watcher | Oct 13 2024 22:29 utc | 79 Posted by: Naive | Oct 14 2024 0:23 utc | 94 517,000 Ukie dead in SMO. Posted by: Naive | Oct 14 2024 0:26 utc | 95 This low rent dumb limey (looks like) pederast 1917 and his posse are writing from the same shitty MI6 script about territory gained. This post from the panzerwaffle TG channel succinctly summarizes that it’s end game for the ukro-turds and their Atlantic masters are panicking:
Posted by: Boo | Oct 14 2024 0:35 utc | 96 Posted by: Surferket | Oct 13 2024 22:51 utc | 81 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 14 2024 0:36 utc | 97 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 13 2024 23:53 utc | 88 Posted by: Boo | Oct 14 2024 0:39 utc | 98 I know this may not be verified Mr Surfeket, but ive seen recent reports that kiev has lost OVER ONE MILLION soldiers. Posted by: Jesper in London | Oct 14 2024 0:52 utc | 99 I know this may not be verified Mr Surfeket, but ive seen recent reports that kiev has lost OVER ONE MILLION soldiers. Posted by: Fyador | Oct 14 2024 1:02 utc | 100 |
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