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October 11, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-242
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:30 utc | 1
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/18410 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:32 utc | 2
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21181 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:34 utc | 3
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21183
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21185
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21186 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:36 utc | 4
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24579
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24584 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:39 utc | 5
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24581 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:40 utc | 6
https://t.me/Taynaya_kantselyariya/11234
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24578 Posted by: Down South | Oct 11 2024 13:43 utc | 7 There are more and more titles like this one in MSM. Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 13:52 utc | 8 Ukraine Weekly Update, 11th October 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-6c7 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Oct 11 2024 13:54 utc | 9 How to camouflage truth is one of the big challenges for MSM. Now Danish media show another nice example. As I wrote on Oct 3
This article in Politiken was – in my view quite correctly – cited by RT on Oct 9:
What a horror to be quoted by RT! Danish paper „Jyllandsposten“ (paywalled) helps out and foams:
Just to see, what Politiken has said, here is the full quote (paywalled):
Where is the propaganda, where is the fake news in RT? What has been manipulated? It must be after all pretty difficult for MSM to discriminate facts, conclusions and opinion. Posted by: Udkanten | Oct 11 2024 14:05 utc | 10 Thanks, Down South, you informatively saved us from yet another first comment being vargas’d. Posted by: boneless | Oct 11 2024 14:13 utc | 12
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 14:19 utc | 13 @DownSouth, thanks for all these useful summaries as well. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 11 2024 14:34 utc | 14 Posted by: Udkanten | Oct 11 2024 14:05 utc | 11 Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 11 2024 14:36 utc | 15 @Clever Dog | Oct 11 2024 14:36 utc | 16
The more this gets out, the better. But we have known about ships like the USS Kearsarge for a long time, at least those who wanted to know. We also know that Biden promised to “put an end” to NS2 months in advance of the event. There are really no surprises in this. Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 14:50 utc | 16 https://t.me/masnochannel/5914
https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/14554
https://t.me/philologist_zov/1553
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 11 2024 14:58 utc | 17 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @ 14
Feature not a bug. The US MIC is all about service contracts, that’s the real pot of gold, that’s why the weapons suck with the F35 being only the most glaring example. Whoever buys this stuff including the US taxpayer must sign up for the $300-1000/hr service contract and parts marked up 300%. What could be better for the manufacturer than to start fixing it right off the showroom floor. Hell of a way to run a war. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 14:59 utc | 18
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/16424 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:12 utc | 19 @Zanon Posted by: Fred777 | Oct 11 2024 15:19 utc | 20 Looks like a lot of real successes plus a small number of false claims that should be clarified in due course.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 11 2024 15:42 utc | 21 Cheers Down South Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 11 2024 15:51 utc | 22 More on ‘Ukraine-bound equipment’ Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 23
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/harkovshchina/1728643504-u-harkivoblenergo-poyasnili-povilne-vidnovlennya-energetiki-rozkradannyam-obladnannya Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 16:30 utc | 24 And: Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 25 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 16:30 utc | 24 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 11 2024 16:43 utc | 26 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 23 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 16:48 utc | 27 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 16:48 utc | 27 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 11 2024 16:59 utc | 28 the explosion was so great that it also destroyed two adjacent Ukrainian navy boats. Posted by: ossi | Oct 11 2024 17:08 utc | 29 Hey Peter. Posted by: LunarDegree33 | Oct 11 2024 17:09 utc | 30 By the way, the young woman who held a Russian flag at the monument in Odessa and called on the Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their weapons. Posted by: ossi | Oct 11 2024 17:18 utc | 31 The situation is definitely fluid/moving in Kursk, but it seems like the Ukrops have NOT been evicted yet from Lubimovka, despite a lot of crowing that they will “have to leave”. I would wait and see. At a minimum, I expect the retreat to be a slower than the “first, first” RFA cheerleader crowd expects. Ukrops have shown many, many times, that they don’t just skedaddle. More the opposite, really, staying in poor positions until absolutely compelled. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 17:22 utc | 32 31 ossi: Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 17:23 utc | 33 she was killed in the detention center. Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 17:25 utc | 34 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 11 2024 14:34 utc | 14 Posted by: AI | Oct 11 2024 17:26 utc | 35 https://t.me/philologist_zov/1556
http://conjuncture.ru/book-markin-combat-experience-special-military-operation-2023-2024/
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 11 2024 17:47 utc | 36 Thank you, Udkanten, for the information, both on the suspicious Navy ships, and on how the west defines “disinformation”. Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 11 2024 17:52 utc | 37 @ Ghost of Zanon | Oct 11 2024 14:34 utc | 14 In the first days, the harbor master, according to his own statement, “wasn´t allowed to say a word”. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 11 2024 18:08 utc | 39 Who has the authority to order a harbour master to shut up? Posted by: malenkov | Oct 11 2024 18:28 utc | 41 https://t.me/bayraktar1070/2796
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 11 2024 18:41 utc | 42 Posted by: ossi | Oct 11 2024 17:18 utc | 31 Posted by: donten | Oct 11 2024 18:52 utc | 43
There are many variants, but the most modern one is the most intimidating. You get approached by a nondescript person in plainclothes who strikes up a conversation. Turns out this stranger knows all about you, your intimate life and much more. The stranger knows about your family, where your children go to school. The stranger knows which pastry you buy at the cafe in the morning and when you buy it. The stranger knows the exact balance in your bank account. Perhaps a buzzword like conspiracy theory or misinformation gets dropped, maybe not. Anyway, you still know nothing about the stranger except the stranger has an immense systemic informational power disparity over you. However unimpressive the stranger is, this is “The mouth of Sauron,” a meat puppet of unseen forces vast beyond imagination. Posted by: Drifter | Oct 11 2024 18:56 utc | 44 German Colonel Niels Janeke, who leads the EU Military Assistance Mission in support of Ukraine, (EUMAM Ukraine), told a US news outlet – that the EU will continue to train Ukrainian troops for at east another two-years. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:59 utc | 45 Duda’s people (The Poles), want Ukrainian men of fighting age sent home to Ukraine – though 53% of Poles still want Poland to take in Ukrainians fleeing from Ukraine – Some 46% of those surveyed insisted, that the fighting between Russia and Ukraine should continue – that’s easy for them to say – they’re not the ones entering the meat grinder. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 46
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 14:59 utc | 18 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 19:22 utc | 47 The Danes have become exceptionally stupid. They all think alike, dress alike and read the same shit, morning and evening. And they have little interest to seek alternative information. Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 11 2024 19:25 utc | 48 More British boots on the ground in Ukraine – as if British troops weren’t already in Ukraine pulling the trigger – more meat for the grinder. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:29 utc | 49 Posted by: Udkanten | Oct 11 2024 14:05 utc | 10 Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 11 2024 19:38 utc | 50 Thankfully there are still a few rational actors in DC. He’ll be ignored. Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 19:39 utc | 51 Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 11 2024 19:25 utc | 48 Posted by: Boo | Oct 11 2024 19:40 utc | 52 “Kiev appeared appreciative of the idea, with a Ukrainian military source telling The Times that such a deployment would send a “powerful military-political signal” to Moscow. ” Posted by: jpc | Oct 11 2024 20:06 utc | 53 Has an Aeroflot plane been hijacked? Looks to be heading for Ukraine. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:09 utc | 54 Scheduled for Moscow, appears to be heading for Luhansk region. If Flightradar is correct, who takes a civil airliner over a war zone? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:15 utc | 55 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:15 utc | 55 Posted by: fabrice | Oct 11 2024 20:26 utc | 56 @YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:09 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 20:42 utc | 57 https://t.me/divgen/56085 Posted by: guest | Oct 11 2024 20:43 utc | 58 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:15 utc | 55 Posted by: Barton Bendish | Oct 11 2024 20:47 utc | 59 @ YetAnotherAnon, §54: Posted by: John Marks | Oct 11 2024 20:49 utc | 60 Posted by: John Marks | Oct 11 2024 20:49 utc | 60 Posted by: Barton Bendish | Oct 11 2024 20:50 utc | 61 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 20:42 utc | 57 Posted by: fabrice | Oct 11 2024 20:50 utc | 62 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:09 utc | 54 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 20:52 utc | 63 Wow. That’s got to be the most bizarre flight-progress I’ve ever seen. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 20:53 utc | 64 Don’t know what anyone thinks they’re going to do with stolen transformer oil; it’s usually a synthetic mineral oil with not a lot of alternative uses, not to mention being toxic and needing to be handled carefully. No good for frying potatoes, that’s for sure! Posted by: Преки | Oct 11 2024 20:55 utc | 65 Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 20:53 utc | 64 Posted by: Boo | Oct 11 2024 20:57 utc | 66 @YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 20:09 utc | 54
Looks like it is flying in to Moscow as scheduled from here. Maybe someone is playing games with Flightradar24? Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 20:59 utc | 67 I saw something similar on Flight radar a month or so back, when a couple of civil airliners appeared to approach Sebastopol from the south then “jumped” back down to the Turkish coast. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 11 2024 21:04 utc | 68 Posted by: Преки | Oct 11 2024 20:55 utc | 65 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 21:06 utc | 69
Guessing the latest RUMoD math says not enough AFU and NATO equipment left in Kursk to be worth attriting, time to button it up. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 21:07 utc | 70 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 21:07 utc | 70 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 21:18 utc | 71 @ Tom Pfotzer, §64: Posted by: John Marks | Oct 11 2024 21:26 utc | 72 The vibe is getting more weird…
“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 21:30 utc | 73 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 21:31 utc | 74 Medvedev on what happens in Ukraine if Trump wins in the US:
https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1844791872729858145 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 21:36 utc | 75 Ukrainian losses for the week October 5th to October 11th, as reported by the Russian defence ministry: Nothing in the news about a hijacking. Not sure why you whip yourselves up like that…if it were really a thing, it would be in the news. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 21:59 utc | 77 No DS Map intel today. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 22:00 utc | 78 Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 21:59 utc | 77 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 22:03 utc | 79 “I don’t have an appetite for further Ukraine funding, and I hope it’s not necessary. If President Trump wins, I believe that he actually can bring that conflict to a close. I really do. I think he’ll call [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and tell him that this is enough,” Johnson said. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 11 2024 22:32 utc | 81 Here yah go kids: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 22:36 utc | 82 Trump does a lot of free-style verbal jamming. I don’t really think of it as “lying” in the sense of hiding/deception. More like bragging BSing, that he can’t deliver on. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 22:38 utc | 83 ossi | Oct 11 2024 17:18 utc | 31
I sincerely hope this not true, but, but, if it is, then I hope it is the start of somethig new . . . Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 22:39 utc | 84 Total losses so far for the Ukrainians in the Kursk front have been 21,900 troops, 144 tanks, 69 IFV, 98 APC, 897 LAV/HMV, 594 motor vehicles, 181 artillery pieces, 34 MLRS, 56 EW and counter-battery system Posted by: blueswede | Oct 11 2024 22:49 utc | 85 Vladimir Putin. Versus. Steven Seagal. Who will win? Posted by: Nothingburgers | Oct 11 2024 23:15 utc | 86 I wonder what RF might have done with the troops and equipment first repelling and now cleaning up the Kursk region. No doubt they were standing back either expecting a border incursion, or else amassing (along with others still hanging back) for a big Kharkiv operation. Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 11 2024 23:20 utc | 87 Serbia’s PM Vucic is wilting faster than week old cut daisies……….. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 23:44 utc | 89 66: Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 23:47 utc | 90 I heard that on the news about discord and said the same things – those idiots do they not know that Russian soldiers use discord on the front lines? I hope some heads will roll for this. On a broader note whoever is doing all this banning is achieving one result – they are shutting up Russian voices on foreign platform one by one – x, facebook, ramble, youtube and now discord. Certainly does look more and more like sabotage from within, be it out of stupidity or malice doesn’t even matter any more, this has gone beyond ludicrous. Posted by: jazzrev | Oct 11 2024 23:56 utc | 91 DS must have felt me slagging him. Intel is in. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 12 2024 0:01 utc | 92 Posted by: Nothingburgers | Oct 11 2024 23:15 utc | 86 Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 12 2024 0:14 utc | 93 Ghost of Zanon | Oct 11 2024 14:34 utc | 14 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 12 2024 0:39 utc | 94 If Putin is smart, he gets a weapon fast. Probably breaking a glass and using it as a knife. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 12 2024 0:44 utc | 95 Anonymous | Oct 11 2024 22:38 utc | 83 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 12 2024 0:46 utc | 96 She sucks. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 12 2024 0:53 utc | 97 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 11 2024 21:30 utc | 73 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 12 2024 0:58 utc | 98 DeepState’s mapping survey plane Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 12 2024 1:02 utc | 99 A sure sign that Ukraine has made no progress lately is that the BBC has not updated its “Ukraine in Maps” web page since 23 August 2024. Posted by: Liolia Paluza | Oct 12 2024 1:04 utc | 100 |
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