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October 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-239

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Ja, so ist das: Putin hat nicht Deutsch gelernt, weil er die Deutschen gehaßt hat, und seine Ex war ja auch Deutschlehrerin.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 7 2024 18:36 utc | 80
Machine translated:

Yes, that’s how it is: Putin did not learn German because he hated the Germans, and his ex was also a German teacher.

That’s not the Putin I remember at all. Nor does it explain why he sought rapprochement with Germany pre-SMO (i.e. during the Merkel years).

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 7 2024 21:13 utc | 101

Once BRICS defangs the City of London, what will all of the Western-centric conspiracy theorists base their analysis upon?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 19:34 utc | 90
BRICS is a creation of the city of London. The BRICS bank New Development Bank is a partner of the World Bank.
There are lots of indicators, this one clearly shows who’s orders the NDB follows. They quickly put new transactions with Russia on hold in response to the sanctions in 2022.
https://www.ndb.int/news/a-statement-by-the-new-development-bank/

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 7 2024 21:25 utc | 102

The RF will never agree to a ceasefire at this point and why should they?
The are crushing in the Donetsk, Zapo, and Luhansk, Ukronazis are literally on the run…….
This is not the time to take your foot off the gas, push the pedal to the metal, and cave in the corrupt house of cards………send NATO to hell in a hand basket……!!
As the Serbs would say…..payback is a bitch !!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 7 2024 21:29 utc | 103

Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 7 2024 21:12 utc | 104
M’kay, so a two-bit German start-up established in 2020 is bringing another “game-changer” to bear?
https://donaustahl.com/unternehmen-2/

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 21:30 utc | 104

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 7 2024 21:25 utc | 106
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I’ve read your opinion on this many times.
The Chinese are not going to follow the British’s lead when it comes to the economy.
Something, something, the century of humiliation, something …

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 21:32 utc | 105

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 7 2024 21:13 utc | 105
OhFFS
It is well known Putin is fluent in German. He worked there as a KGB agent. I have no idea if he has an accent or not, but he is certainly known to be skilled. His apparent lack of German is used by conspiracy theorists of the nuttier kind to prove he is dead.
Since he also worked while young as a “diplomat” aka spy in NZ I assume he also has excellent English.
He makes no secret of having been a KGB officer. Fluency in languages is almost a requirement for such a position in any nation.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2024 21:35 utc | 106

Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:37 utc | 5

It is not the result of an AI that Putin speaks English without an accent.

Lol! I don’t read your posts so I don´t know whether to treat you harshly. Benefit of the doubt.
Anyways, you’re so fucking wrong! RT themselves say it is AI.
https://www.rt.com/russia/605350-putin-speaks-rt-project/

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2024 21:44 utc | 107

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 7 2024 17:31 utc | 63
See #111 above

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2024 21:47 utc | 108

LoveDonbass 90
Ossi, Mystic Meg, same as now.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 7 2024 21:47 utc | 109

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2024 21:35 utc | 110
“NZ” and “excellent English” don’t always go together; who on earth would nickname their national rugby union team as the “Owl-Blicks”???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 21:49 utc | 110

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 21:30 utc | 108
from a german perspective, its not so much that this is another of those wunderwaffles or gamechangers, but more so that its a new german company delivering weapons to nazis to kill slavs.
the german regime came full circle.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 7 2024 21:54 utc | 111

Put on your dancing shoes, it’s Putin’s birthday:
Vladimir Putin, who rules,
Africa awakens before our eyes,
With each step, our dreams sparkle,
Vladimir Putin, who rules,
Africa with you, a bright future!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 7 2024 22:00 utc | 112

Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 7 2024 21:54 utc | 115
Understood, and thanks for that perspective; I’m guilty as charged of overlooking the historic symbolism involved.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 22:01 utc | 113

Where are the F-16?
Posted by: boneless | Oct 7 2024 12:55 utc | 240
Someone here proposed a while back that they might be being hidden and stockpiled for some future grand operation, Kersk Bridge maybe. Whilst this might be true, there have been a few reports of some being hit.
And then of course they may never have been delivered, except Denmark just said theirs arrived. That’s the only admitted delivery I’ve heard of.
My suspicion is that they are still dribbling in. If not so, Z would be mouthing off about “the delays”.
Another possibility is that Moscow has issued yet another no-bluff strongly worded communique that F16s in combat ops within RF proper will have their host countries aerodromes hit in retaliation.
I don’t think they’ve gone away. I think Kiev/NATO is still deciding how best to use them. After all, the Kursk op was supposedly a year in planning. We may yet see them in action.

Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 7 2024 22:02 utc | 114

The world turns with or without America or Israel.
https://calculatingempires.net/
Highly useful as a quick historical checkup. Zoom and scroll.It’s fun.

Posted by: whirlX | Oct 7 2024 22:15 utc | 115

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2024 21:35 utc | 110
I dig. Maybe you could tell that to Oliver Krug who I responded to.

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 7 2024 22:20 utc | 116

@ LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 21:32 utc | 109
Indeed. Unequal treaties, imposed foreign concessions, indemnities/reparations to cover the warmongers wars ‘costs incurred’, militarily imposed opium ‘trade'(wars), the western empires funding the disparate warlords to keep ’em down whilst stripping the nations wealth through the warlord period post 1911, US arming & funding KMT through ’49, Korean war (never ended, no armistice, no peace treaty), etc, etc … oh and rabid Dougie MacArthur with his nuke’em commies obsession …

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 7 2024 22:25 utc | 117

RE: F-16s, the scenario played out like this:
[Politician] We must do something!
[Political Advisor] Well, we could always send some of our F-16s…
[Politician] Brilliant idea, I’m glad I thought of that. Make the arrangements immediately!
[Political Advisor] Very good sir, I shall get onto it straight away.
[Experienced Techie] You want to do what? Do you realise the training, the operational, the maintenance requirements?
[Political Advisor] The [Politician] wanted something to be done. This is something, therefore it must be done.
[Experienced Techie] I wish you good luck, coz it ain’t gonna work…
[Political Advisor] Well I know that, you know that, but the [Politician] wanted to see something done…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 22:28 utc | 118

🇺🇦Prime Minister of Ukraine: Kyiv will not renew the gas transit agreement with Moscow
▪️Ukraine will not renew the agreement with the Russian Federation on the transit of Russian gas through its territory after the expiration of the current agreement, Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmygal said today.

This is funny because the gas to Europe was skimmed by the Ukrainians. They were being paid to transit, and they were stealing from the deliveries. LOL
Messages like this from the PM are for the domestic audience so they can “explain” the lack of natural gas this winter as being the fault of those evil ORC Russkies!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 22:40 utc | 119

Someone thankfully wrote about and translated parts of a speech about UK´s strong and weak points by Sergej Kurginjan to German (Video-links included):
“…In his opinion, Britain’s ultimate task is to bring down all the constants of the complex and not fully understood phenomenon (not even by religious people in Russia) called humanism.”
(“…Seiner Meinung nach besteht die ultimative Aufgabe Großbritanniens darin, alle Konstanten des komplexen und nicht vollständig verstandenen Phänomens (auch von religiösen Menschen in Russland nicht) namens Humanismus zum Einsturz zu bringen.”)
https://www.vineyardsaker.de/2024/10/06/kosmonaut-angelsaechsische-eliten-koloniale-welt-alte-geschichte/#more-2359
– And yes: The globalists are trying to eliminate free speech in Germany with growing pressure but resistance is increasing also.

Posted by: Blue Angel | Oct 7 2024 22:41 utc | 120

Putin doesn’t need an AI to speak perfect English without an accent. He speaks perfect English, you clever people, I was able to see that for myself in Dresden in 1988.
When he speaks German, you can hear an accent, but German is also a difficult language… and I am German.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 17:42 utc | 66
Yes, VVP speaks OK English. I’ve never heard it “perfect” though. The interesting aspect is why he chooses not to use English more often. Obviously, for a purely domestic audience speech, Russian is appropriate. And at international, multilingual forums, Russian to perfect translators is easiest and best. But to an English-speaking interviewer, where the target audience is English-speaking (ie US), (eg Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, Oliver Stone) it strikes me that using his English would bridge the gap better. Perhaps it’s an anti-imperialist, fixed patriotic stand. Or maybe he’s just a but shy about his imperfections. I don’t think a accent is any issue. It’s more likely a distrust of message confusion and loss of the many great Russian idioms.
The AI development is good, as it will help to get his messages to wider audiences. I wonder though if it wasn’t the Kremlin who initiated (and maybe even funded) the project!

Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 7 2024 22:49 utc | 121

🇷🇺 Kiev resistance celebrating Putin’s birthday: “Putin will come and bring things to order.”

short video link

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 22:49 utc | 122

Technically Russia is just as fucked. From a population perspective its demographics are too heavy (which almost all of these conversations completely ignore) and losing over a half million younger workers and growing is going to cause a LOT of pain.
In addition, Russia’s economy is flying apart at the seams and will remain an international pariah for many decades. Poverty will grow dramatically.
And it will have been forever weakened militarily. The amount of equipment Russia has lost is staggering, it doesn’t have the industrial nor the economic ability to replace that. It took the whole Soviet Union decades to build that, now it’s just Russia going it alone with an economy the size of Italy (and will be shrinking). Combine that with Russia being one of the most corrupt nations on the planet reducing its economic/industrial capability, Russia will be forever diminished.
And after all of this, it will only have a very small portion of Ukraine which will be a struggle to hold.

Posted by: Junior Bar | Oct 7 2024 22:59 utc | 123

Russia Su-27 Scared F-16 Pilot Half To Death By Harshly Intercepting His Fighter Over The Baltic Sea
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 20:43 utc | 95
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And you too, moron, same as Unimperator. Fuck off with your computer game video graphics and infantile fantasy computer narration from that shitty BORZZIKMAN YT channel. Yes,maybe there was some “report” about such an incident. But a 3 min fake video production for an unconfirmed one sentence military report is clickbait pure and simple. Do you serious reference the SMO from this channel. Grow tf up.

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 124

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 21:00 utc | 101
Singapore is a great answer. A very mysterious city.
An independent sovereign country/city who are not allowed to have and foreign policy/ monetary policy, where the IDF trains and control the armed forces.
n 7 August 1965, Malaysian prime minister Tunku Abdul RAHMAN, voted to expel Singapore from Malaysia.[92]
Lee Kuan YEW and YUOSUF bin ISHAK (not to be confused with e.g ISHAK RABIN) as the first prime minister and president
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
Nothing to see here

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 125

Yes, VVP speaks OK English. I’ve never heard it “perfect” though. The interesting aspect is why he chooses not to use English more often. Obviously, for a purely domestic audience speech, Russian is appropriate. And at international, multilingual forums, Russian to perfect translators is easiest and best. But to an English-speaking interviewer, where the target audience is English-speaking (ie US), (eg Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, Oliver Stone) it strikes me that using his English would bridge the gap better. Perhaps it’s an anti-imperialist, fixed patriotic stand. Or maybe he’s just a but shy about his imperfections. I don’t think a accent is any issue. It’s more likely a distrust of message confusion and loss of the many great Russian idioms.
Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 7 2024 22:49 utc | 125

It would be a severe breach of protocol for him to speak English. Lavrov does it during press-conferences, but he is a diplomat on a mission, that is different. The president cannot do it.
Yes, you see the leaders of the vassals of the West speaking English all the time. That goes with their status as such — they speak English because they are vassals and them not using their native language makes them vassals.
Meanwhile Russian is one of the six official languages of the UN.
For Putin, or any other Russian leader, to not speak in Russian would be to seriously diminish Russia’s status.

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 7 2024 23:08 utc | 126

Singapore, to put it like City would:
A country with people, for people with money without a country

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Oct 7 2024 23:11 utc | 127

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 128
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Joe, I am checking my records, and it seems that your subscription to my “good stuff” has lapsed.
Until you bring your account back into compliance, you will have to make do with the content that I provide for free.
Thanks for clicking, and have a nice day. 🙂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 23:13 utc | 128

I would also like to add one thing – People live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Since 1947. Making an area permanently uninhabitable, especially a large area, is far from as simple as some people seem to think.

That’s because you’ve obviously never heard of Cobalt-Thorium-G.

Now, yes, Little Boy and Fat Man weren’t huge atomic bombs, but while modern nuclear weapons are regularly a hell of a lot more powerful, they are also fusion based, and those are a lot cleaner.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 7 2024 17:47 utc | 68

Huge investments have been made since the 1950s into clean nukes. What the outcome of all that research was is still classified and nobody in the wider public has any idea what the real capabilities are. For example, there are theoretical ways to ignite fusion without a fission primary. On a small scale though, but that is all that is needed for lowering the nuclear threshold and even covert use.
Once you go into the megaton city buster range, then it doesn’t really matter because those explosions are on such a scale that it becomes irrelevant whether they are clear or not.
Having said that, the first hydrogen bombs that were tested had fission primaries an order of magnitude larger than Little Boy and Fat Man, thus the fallout was much much worse.
And just as huge investment has been made into clean nukes, likely the opposite is also true — purposefully dirty warheads may also have been developed, precisely for the purpose of salting the earth.
It is a useful exercise to look at the history of the bomb while trying to forget everything you have been subjected to as articles and video, as hard as it is. Once you do that, you realize that basically everything that is public information goes back to the period up to the early 1960s, when atmospheric tests were banned. Underground tests in the next three decades were much easier to conceal, and we know relatively little about them. And then at least officially testing ended altogether in the early 1990s, which pushed nuclear weapons research completely into the dark. But it would be silly to think that things remained where they were in the early 1960s. Which is where most people’s understanding of the subject matter is still frozen.

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 7 2024 23:15 utc | 129

Some say it´s nothing because US already has the info they can get through reverse-engineering.
And we have the S-500/550 anyway.
Posted by: AG | Oct 7 2024 16:20 utc | 45

Several things to note:
1) Russia doesn’t really have S-500/S-500. Those are in limited initial deployment and a long way from being fully rolled out. It might be one of the reasons Russia is stalling on the real war, together with full Sarmat, Burevestnik and Poseidon deployment.
2) As someone else already pointed above, it is not an S-400 replacement, but a different set of capabilities
3) Regardless of how well it works in theory and on the testing range, in practice it is clearly not deployed in the required numbers and/or not performing well enough to stop the actual threats. An S-500 was moved to Crimea a few months ago, and yet of the four ATACMS missiles fired last night only two were intercepted. Perhaps the S-500 is not there for that purpose at all and hasn’t even engaged them. Whatever, the fact is that the defenses were inadequate. Just as they were inadequate in Toropets, Morozovsk, Lipetsk, etc., and don’t get me started on large Cessna plane-sized drones making it well past Moscow in the depths of Russian territory…

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 7 2024 23:19 utc | 130

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 128
Former RAF instructor pilots view of the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvVniD6-JYQ

Posted by: Milites | Oct 7 2024 23:32 utc | 131

And after all of this, it will only have a very small portion of Ukraine which will be a struggle to hold.
Posted by: Junior Bar | Oct 7 2024 22:59 utc | 127
What a complete load of BOLLOX!
That “small portion of Ukraine” is worth 13 trillion dollars….and that figure is from Lindsay Graham!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 7 2024 23:38 utc | 132

Different incident sorry, the Danish pilot is not frightened, just maintaining a safe separation distance.

Posted by: Milites | Oct 7 2024 23:39 utc | 133

________________________________________________________________
ENCIRCLEMENTS OF UAF TROOPS IN In Pokrovsk, Kurakhovo Directions
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Russian forces achieved several important victories west of the Donetsk urban agglomeration, threatening the Armed Forces of Ukraine with new large cauldrons. The Russian army is advancing in the Pokrovsk direction, taking the large Ukrainian stronghold in Selidovo in a pincer.
The Russian troops are expanding their zone of control north of Selidovo. On October 7th, the Russian Ministry of Defense officially confirmed the full control of the town of Grodovka located in the Pokrovsk direction in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
Meanwhile, Russian forces repelled Ukrainian troops from several more strongholds on the outskirts of Mykolaivka. Clashes continue in Lysovka, where Russian assault troops gained a foothold in the eastern part of the village. Russian forces are also improving their positions, expanding their zone of control on a wide front west of Novogrodovka, surrounding the Ukrainian garrison in Selidovo on its northern outskirts. A strategically important height of the dump of the Novogrodovskaya #2 mine came under Russian control.
On the eastern outskirts of Selidovo, clashes are ongoing on the territory of the Korotchenko mine. Control of the facilities will allow Russian forces secure the road leading to Selidovo from the village of Mikhailovka to the east. The Russian assault groups are yet to enter Selidovo, but their breakthrough from the eastern outskirts is expected in the nearest future amid the the rapid Russian advance south of the city.
In recent days, Russian forces have significantly advanced along the railway tracks on the southern flank and surrounded Selidovo from the southern outskirts. Russian forces are rapidly advancing from their strongholds in the area of Tsukurino, developing offensive operations in different directions both to the north and south.
Having secured their flanks north and south of Selidovo, Russian troops may soon surround the town. Meanwhile, Russian drones and artillery are pounding Ukrainian servicemen hiding in the city.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 7 2024 23:43 utc | 134

It would be a severe breach of protocol for Putin to speak English. Lavrov does it during press-conferences, but he is a diplomat on a mission, that is different. The president cannot do it.
Yes, you see the leaders of the vassals of the West speaking English all the time. That goes with their status as such — they speak English because they are vassals and them not using their native language makes them vassals.
Meanwhile Russian is one of the six official languages of the UN.
For Putin, or any other Russian leader, to not speak in Russian would be to seriously diminish Russia’s status.
Posted by: 1917 | Oct 7 2024 23:08 utc | 130
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Thank you @1917 for that honest and informative reply to someone not versed in RF presidential protocols, and which I had not considered.
BTW, Irrespective of who some others here think you are or used to be!, all rational and informative input here by you is welcomed, irrespective of political leanings and personal perspectives.

Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 7 2024 23:43 utc | 135

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 128
even the white house commented on that incident with the usual “unprofessional” and “unsafe” yaddayadda talkingpoints.
have you left the same comment for them?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 8 2024 0:01 utc | 136

@José Gomes
Perfect

Posted by: Soviético | Oct 8 2024 0:03 utc | 137

@48 José Gomes

Posted by: Soviético | Oct 8 2024 0:04 utc | 138

Posted by: alek_a | Oct 7 2024 17:03 utc | 56
“I am 45 and constantly have a feeling, ever since 5-6 years ago, that there is a ravine between me and those in their 20s. Generational gaps have always been there but this is something different. They are alien to me.”
I’ve noticed the same divide between the younger and older generations. It seems to me like the difference is between those who learned to think before the internet and those whose ability to think has always come through the internet. They seem a lot more gullible, not enough healthy skepticism. Remember seeing the bumper stickers that said “Question Authority”? You don’t see them anymore.

Posted by: Paranaense | Oct 8 2024 0:15 utc | 139

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 7 2024 23:05 utc | 128
Former RAF instructor pilots view of the incident.
youtube.com/watch
Posted by: Milites | Oct 7 2024 23:32 utc | 136
I’m very surprised by your superficial response. Do try to keep up with posts rather than knee jerk input.
1. Your link was to the Alaskan incident of 2 weeks ago. Yes, that was confirmed by the MoD. But my post, Love Donbass’s latest POS post, was about some new, more recent “report”, not mentioned *anywhere else* yet on the web. Please tell me how some cartoonish YT channel can possibly have exclusive fighter jet video content from Danish Airforce pilots? Probably psyop propaganda from MSM.
2. NEARLY ALL THE IMAGERY that BORZIKKMAN pads out their shit with is CGI games and archival training clips. You should know better than to indirectly excuse such shit.
3. You wrote “… his view of the incident …”. Yeah, commentary on the 2 week old incident, NOT cockpit view, other than the popular 3 second MSM clip creating 7 fkn mins of video conjecture. Typical “I was a pilot” YT grifting.
4. My beef is the posting of unbelievable infantile YT crap on MOA. I’m not disputing RFAF flybys — where authenticated by the MOD.

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 8 2024 0:27 utc | 140

even the white house commented on that incident with the usual “unprofessional” and “unsafe” yaddayadda talkingpoints.
have you left the same comment for them?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 8 2024 0:01 utc | 141
Ffs, do keep up with the convo.
You’re rightly talking about the Alaskan incident of Sept 23, also confirmed by RF MOD.
But the LD post to YT was a more recent “report” (only on that YT channel) of RFAF doing the same thing to a DANISH F16 over the Baltic Sea, yesterday. A completely different accusation.
Look, maybe true, maybe be shit. But would you believe that fucking BORZIKKMAN nonsense before we get reputable releases.
Look, MSM is in the business of constant propaganda against RFAF. Some weeks back it was accused by “UK Intelligence” of “accidentally missiling a grain ship heading OUT of Ukraine to Egypt”. Peskov laughed and said “Now why/how could we do that?”

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 8 2024 0:43 utc | 141

@Jens Skolen | Mon, 07 Oct 2024 23:43:00 GMT | 140

BTW, Irrespective of who some others here think you are or used to be!, all rational and informative input here by you is welcomed, irrespective of political leanings and personal perspectives

Key points are bolded. Yes, if Shadowbanned could manage rational input without devolving into screeds about Putin or Russian failure to use nuclear weapons, then they would be welcome. Let me know when he starts doing so, and maybe I’ll unblock him.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 0:46 utc | 142

@Paul from Norway | Mon, 07 Oct 2024 23:05:00 GMT | 129

An independent sovereign country/city who are not allowed to have and foreign policy/ monetary policy, where the IDF trains and control the armed forces.

What are you talking about? With Singapore? They have a military, with about 300,000 members, including reserves, and an independent foreign policy. The IDF? Do you mean Israel? They have nothing to do with Singapore’s military. I don’t even think they hold joint exercises together.
If you’re referring to Indonesia, the correct designation of its armed forces is the TNI, not IDF. But they still have no control over Singapore’s military or foreign policy. Singapore also has its own currency (believe it or not) and so controls its own monetary policy. Get your facts straight. Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 0:59 utc | 143

DS Map intel dropped:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/49.3919826/37.5251770
Small day for the RFA. ~9 kmsq. That equates to 270/month. Which would be significantly subpar.
Need to get cracking if they want to equal or beat last month’s record. Remember the muh attrition cope lovers promise that all this “trust me bro” attrition is degrading the UFA ability to defend and leading to acceleration of the tiny land gains.
S to N:
1. Zhelanne Pershe taken. May just be cope concession as some gray converted to red, but no advance of the gray itself. Still taking an incredible amount of time to start Hirnyk envelopment.
2. Few blocks of Maksymilianivka. May also be cope concession as the gray turned to red, but outer gray did not move.
3. Filled in a few fields in a pocket S of Novoslivske (Pischane area of operations). No strategic significance, just straightening the lines a bit. Both gray and red moved, so this was probably a legit change on the ground.

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 8 2024 1:08 utc | 144

Trump winning the US presidential election could be seriously bad news for the Ukraine region …
JFK junior will get a post in the administration, as will, whether officially or not, Jared Kushner.
Both (one a Jew, the other allegedly not) are followers of arguably the most racist, megalomanic and thoroughly malevolent cleric of the 20th century — the late Rabbi Schneerson.
His organisation (Chabad, also known as Lubavitch) is very wealthy and increasingly influential, worldwide. Putin panders to their branch in Russia to a very disturbing extent. And they happen to want most of Ukraine, which is where their scumbag ideologue came from…..
Check out statements (blatant lies) by Kennedy about that Rabbi on 5th September this year.
And keep in mind that according to the Rabbi’s proclaimed theology non-Jews are mere non-human, disposable animals and should be treated as such.
Not only that, but after their conquest of everyone else, each Jew would be awarded 2,800 non-Jewish slaves.
How nice. That is what the cultists of Schneerson still believe, want and connive towards.
But of course Kennedy never mentioned any of that….
So to hell with Trump and his crew of Zionist pimps — he’s no better than Biden or Starmer.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 8 2024 1:27 utc | 145

watcher | Oct 7 2024 21:35 utc | 110
Putin: a “diplomat” aka spy in NZ … excellent English.

NZ? “Excellent” English?
Cmon cuz.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 1:40 utc | 146

Let me know when he starts doing so, and maybe I’ll unblock him.
Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 0:46 utc | 147
Well, that is exactly what I said in my #140 post — “thank you for your honest and informative reply”. Then in para 2, my inference was for him to keep doing that.
And I’m not sure if he’ll care at all about you unblocking him. You sure seem to know a lot about his posts for someone who has blocked him.
You’re certainly a fixated hater, James M. Evidently you just can’t sort the daisies from the thistles, the wheat from the chaff. You have fixed personal blinkers, filters. You put people in your bad books, and that’s it. They get banished from all considerations of possible sensibility. I remember that Jake Blanchard fellow tagged you as a bigot. I’m now tending to agree with him. No doubt you will now go off on some rant about him in retrospect, proving to all readers that you are fixated about all whom you perceive as your ideological enemies. Perhaps even I will receive your wrath now, because I had a good thing to say about 1917, despite it not even being your conversation to enter into. You just can’t stand to see your enemies agreed with. Sad, and telling.

Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 8 2024 1:58 utc | 147

A bit of trivia regarding the City of London, it is said that there are 13 blood lines who control it, interestingly there are 13 dragons that “protect” it.
These are statues dotted around around the entry points to the city, some on bridges, others on buildings, no one knows who commissioned them, not particularly obvious, but look and you will see them. They cary different shields or arms.
Also, when viewed from above, the layout of the city can be mapped onto that of the Vatican City and carries many geometric similarities found in masonic lore.
Meh, I did say it was trivia. Oh, and the London stone, located behind a grille on Cannon St (in the City) at ankle level, walked past daily by many. Moved in 1742 as it kept intefering with cart wheels.
Just a bit of a lead for those who might wish to look into the seats of power.

Posted by: orson cart | Oct 8 2024 2:41 utc | 148

Posted by: Joe Bloggs | Oct 8 2024 0:27 utc | 145
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A lot of Borzzikman’s video imagery comes from Telegram.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 8 2024 2:53 utc | 149

@ orson cart | Oct 8 2024 2:41 utc | 153 with the City Of London Corp history…thanks
I know most of it but like the Vatican, with a bank running usury since the 1300’s, Pope Frank, like your 13 City bloodlines, represent some of the God Of Mammon cult behind the curtain of our form of social organization.
What is their end game in Ukraine? Is it part of the bigger civilization war I keep writing about? Will Ukraine go down before Occupied Palestine and both before November 5?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:00 utc | 150

orson cart | Oct 8 2024 2:41 utc | 153
>…13 blood lines
>12 tribes (plus 1 “lost”)
>the eery numerology and symbology of strange events… [eg. from my 9/11 rabbit hole]
Every time my “rational” brain dismisses all this as clickbait nonsense, something else arises to confound me once again.
I guess that’s why it’s “esoteric” knowledge. If available and known to all, it wouldn’t be “secret”.
One thing “ukraine” has done for me … it’s torn away the flimsy gossamer veil hiding human/sex/organ trafficking, the nasty diabolical research at the (numerous) biolabs, and the short linked chain between these activities and power players such as the Clinton Global Initiative, the grifting Bidens, and assorted other Names and Entities.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:07 utc | 151

@Jens Skolen | Tue, 08 Oct 2024 01:58:00 GMT | 152

And I’m not sure if he’ll care at all about you unblocking him. You sure seem to know a lot about his posts for someone who has blocked him.

When the posts are all the same, it’s not hard to figure out what he will write. Copy and paste and spam, seems to be his textbook.
I’m sure he doesn’t care about me blocking him, but he sure cares that some useful idiots read his posts, otherwise why would he post? Of course, he seems to have found a captive audience in you. You can read his posts twice for me, and every other poster who dislikes him. Good luck swallowing his bilge.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 3:09 utc | 152

reply to 127
Thank for posting the new Ukraine narrative: Even if Ukraine is utterly defeated, Russia has lost somehow. It’s hard to imagine any other rationalization once Ukraine collapses and EU/US need to save face.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 8 2024 3:15 utc | 153

@127
“…now it’s just Russia going it alone with an economy the size of Italy (and will be shrinking)”
Russia’s ranked the 6th largest economy in the world on a GDP-PPP basis. How do you explain that? Also, why do you think the GDP per capita rankings (which you used) are a better measure of Russia’s economic strength (and potential) than the GDP-PPP rankings?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

Posted by: GW | Oct 8 2024 3:17 utc | 154

@127
“And it will have been forever weakened militarily. The amount of equipment Russia has lost is staggering, it doesn’t have the industrial nor the economic ability to replace that…”
Then how do explain General Cavoli’s claim that, as of 2024, Russia has fully replenished its wrecked weaponry and equipment?
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-built-military-pre-war-level-us-general-1889569

Posted by: GW | Oct 8 2024 3:23 utc | 155

Is it part of the bigger civilization war I keep writing about?
psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:00 utc | 155
The increasing “pivot” to Iran as even more “evil” than Russia instils a huge lump of dread in my bowels.
There’s noise about China, too, of course. >which worries me in the extreme, being a hapless citizen of a designated “lilly pad” for U$ missile strikes into China< But even imbecile Trump is wittingly (or not), linking the assassination attempts on him to Iran. … his enemies are not foreign, but domestic … I’m always suspicious of that snake, Jared… I was watching some vid of the absolute brutal devastation of North Carolina (and Florida, and other states)… I was dumbfounded how the YouTube personalities, who (seemingly) are doing astonishing volunteer work to provide assistance [where FEMA has failed {and even acted with malevolent interference}], … dumbfounded at the pivot on a penny they did from talking “good sense” about helping fellow americans to snarling like feral street dogs at the trigger word, “Iran”. Some claim to be Iraqi vets, Afghanistan vets, etc. I am dumbfounded. They say they realise they were duped in those Empire Wars, but cannot extrapolate that the propaganda re Iran is more of the same…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:26 utc | 156

@Jens Skolen | Tue, 08 Oct 2024 01:58:00 GMT | 152

Evidently you just can’t sort the daisies from the thistles, the wheat from the chaff. You have fixed personal blinkers, filters. You put people in your bad books, and that’s it. They get banished from all considerations of possible sensibility. I remember that Jake Blanchard fellow tagged you as a bigot. I’m now tending to agree with him. No doubt you will now go off on some rant about him in retrospect, proving to all readers that you are fixated about all whom you perceive as your ideological enemies. Perhaps even I will receive your wrath now, because I had a good thing to say about 1917, despite it not even being your conversation to enter into. You just can’t stand to see your enemies agreed with. Sad, and telling.

Time is precious my friend. I don’t want to waste it on fools and posers. Wanker Blanchard was one of those, take your pick. Where is he now, by the way? Gone, couldn’t cut it, or was banned. Shadowbanned is similarly a fool, or a propagandist.
As for me being a bigot? No, I hate everyone equally. That’s sarcasm if you can’t tell. I am very well versed in this subject, and will come after those who are wrong with facts and evidence. My style is blunt, as I don’t pussyfoot around – see above about time and all.
You don’t like me, that’s fine, block or ignore me, and go about your day. My own blocked list is growing, but if I see idiocy posted here, and if I have the time, I will respond – harshly.

Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 3:27 utc | 157

… The amount of equipment Russia has lost is staggering, it doesn’t have the industrial nor the economic ability to replace that…”
I dunno. Shovels are pretty cheap and low tech, even Russia should be able to replace them.
{I was reliably informed by all corporate media in 2022 that Russia was depleted and reduced to fighting with shovels}

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:30 utc | 158

James M. | Oct 8 2024 3:27 utc | 162
if I see idiocy posted here, and if I have the time, I will respond – harshly.
Thank you for your service.
I’d greatly appreciate it if you’d direct some of that firepower at the most egregious thread spamming shithead, Tony Offtopic.
No one shits up a thread more then that gaseous putrefying turd.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:38 utc | 159

Of course, he seems to have found a captive audience in you. You can read his posts twice for me, and every other poster who dislikes him. Good luck swallowing his bilge.
Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 3:09 utc | 157
I don’t know why you would call me “a captive audience and a swallower of bilge” merely because I posed a general question about Putin’s usage of English –> someone called @1917 replied with a factual perspective I had not considered –> I thanked him for that sensible reply –> I commented on my non-discrimination against him due to the ideological prejudices held by others here against him –> right on cue, you chimed in to attack him and me for substance extraneous to the topic of my own personal exchange with #1917 but which is the product of your own biases –> then I reminded you of how fixated you are about your ideological enemies –> and now you’ve branded me as part of some mythical captive audience of the infamous Shadowbanned!
What a bizarre stream of logic you exibit, James M. And you think of yourself as a rational man! I think not!
Anyway, despite varying personal variances of opinion with yourself from time to time, I still read you from time to time and would never dare to throw you in the bin simply because of that. As I said, because I sometimes read @1917, does not make me “captive” of him, just as it does not for you. But your biases make me wary a lot of your own BS.

Posted by: Jens Skolen | Oct 8 2024 3:46 utc | 160

BTW. Probably not gaining much or any global corporate media coverage… a NZ navy ship has sunk near Samoa.
I’ll cede to the kiwi barflies re minutiae.
Bottom line, it was “fucking around” in pre-pre-prep for the Soon To Be war with China. It “found out” when it hit a coral reef… (that’s the official story)
Vid:
On Cam: NATO Partner’s Navy Ship Catches Fire, Sinks; Reason Not Known Yet | Pacific | New Zealand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GEElr5jQ5Q
How it unfolded: HMNZS Manawanui sinks off coast of Samoa | Stuff.co.nz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhmLkqLnjjQ

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:52 utc | 161

@Paul from Norway | Mon, 07 Oct 2024 23:05:00 GMT | 129
An independent sovereign country/city who are not allowed to have and foreign policy/ monetary policy, where the IDF trains and control the armed forces.
What are you talking about? With Singapore?
Posted by: James M. | Oct 8 2024 0:59 utc | 148
James M, Tony is right. IDF personnels are seconded to the SAF, mainly in Military Intelligence.
Once upon a time, certain specialised SADF, IDF & SAF groups used to train with the Taiwanese in Taiwan, before LKY decided it was more profitable building China’s first Industrial Business Park.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 8 2024 3:53 utc | 162

In response to

I am dumbfounded. They say they realise they were duped in those Empire Wars, but cannot extrapolate that the propaganda re Iran is more of the same…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:26 utc | 161

As long as the firehoses of the MSM are spewing out the current narrative and Wag The Dog iterations to respond to realities like Helene/Milton, they keep the faith breathers in line. Some are falling out of the firehose stream but when the alternatives are bars like this where most current/new patrons want to suck, rather than add value to the conversations here, it is a bit depressing.
And now it not just Don’t feed the trolls but stop talking about feeding trolls or others feeding trolls. If you can’t add some value to the discussion STFU!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:54 utc | 163

Apologises for post 167 being O/T.
Apart from Karlof1’s Newsweek report, the Russians gameplan is tracking very nicely.
That Joe Blogg reminds me of someone else (changeling) that always right, angry and needy. Now I wonder who that could be…..?

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 8 2024 3:59 utc | 164

@ Melaleuca 166
I believe the NZ Naval salvage vessel was being captained by a British born and quite openly lesbian person who’s dream was to one day open a restaurant but has now found her perfect job (according to her social media) It was run aground on a coral reef.
Reminds me of the Norwegian Naval vessel that was rammed into the shore (up a fjord) when all the boys were told to stand down and let the ladies take over.
DEI nonsense IMHO

Posted by: orson cart | Oct 8 2024 4:07 utc | 165

And don’t get me wrong, I work with, learn from and report to some amazing women. It’s the DEI bit that pisses me off.

Posted by: orson cart | Oct 8 2024 4:10 utc | 166

I’ll probably be arrested now for wrong think

Posted by: orson cart | Oct 8 2024 4:17 utc | 167

08.10.2024 Самые свежие видео из зоны СВО – за последние 6 часов. Карта боевых действий на Украине: Феодосия (19 видео)
Подробности ночного удара по Крыму. 12 беспилотников ВСУ были сбиты за пределами населенных пунктов, а вот две американские ракеты ATACMS прилетели по нефтебазе АО “Морской нефтяной терминал” в Феодосии. Это одна из крупнейших нефтебаз в стране и самая большая в Крыму. От двух взрывов повреждения получили 5 емкостей с горючими веществами, весь день оперативные службы тушили пожар.
Интересно что сотрудники МЧС проводили съемку с воздуха для оценки масштабов возгорания, но даже эти кадры оказались к вечеру у противника. Как?
Перекрыт улицы Федько и Геологическая, приостановлено движение поездов на участке от Феодосии до Владиславовки.
Херсонское направление. Противник стал меньше насыпать в глубину нашего берега, но по самому краю ЛБС стабильно тяжело и даже снаряды прилетают точнее.
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10/08/2024 The latest videos from the SVO zone – for the last 6 hours. Map of military operations in Ukraine: Feodosia (19 videos)
Details of the night strike on Crimea. 12 Ukrainian drones were shot down outside populated areas, but two American ATACMS missiles hit the oil depot of JSC Marine Oil Terminal in Feodosia. This is one of the largest oil depots in the country and the largest in Crimea. Five tanks with flammable substances were damaged by two explosions, and emergency services spent the entire day putting out the fire.
It is interesting that the Emergencies Ministry employees were filming from the air to assess the scale of the fire, but even this footage ended up in the enemy’s hands by evening. How?
Fedko and Geologicheskaya streets are closed, and train traffic is suspended on the section from Feodosia to Vladislavovka.
Kherson direction. The enemy has begun to pour less into the depths of our bank, but along the very edge of the LBS it is consistently heavy and even the shells are flying more accurately.
– – – > https://voenhronika.ru/

Posted by: guest from franconia | Oct 8 2024 4:21 utc | 168

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 8 2024 3:52 utc | 166
“On Cam: NATO Partner’s Navy Ship Catches Fire, Sinks; Reason Not Known Yet | Pacific | New Zealand”
The reason is known but you’ll not be allowed to read it in print: woman driver. Read the Captain’s bio and you’ll see that she’s a perfect DEI hire. She’ll probably get a medal for bravery above and beyond the call of duty.

Posted by: Paranaense | Oct 8 2024 4:24 utc | 169

Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:37 utc | 5
What did you think of Putin?
I find him head and shoulders above any western statesman. His knowledge of history and of the situation in Russia are impressive. I also think that his calling the dissolution of the Soviet Union a disaster is correct.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 4:35 utc | 170

As Lavrov stated in the interview he earnestly believes the “masses” in the US agree with his viewpoint on Ukraine: that the US should mind it’s own business. His confidence is not misplaced.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 16:24 utc | 47
Agreed. Most of the people I know personally who are rabid about Ukraine are Trots. I actually had one tell me that Ukraine and Palestine are the same.
Anyway, I think one reason Trump appeals to so many is because he’s no interested in foreign wars.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 4:41 utc | 171