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October 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-239
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Zap offensive time. Time for the bed shitters in NATO to look on helplessly as more of Ukraine slips from their grasp.
Rot in Hell, Starmer, Biden, Bolton, Graham, etc.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 7 2024 13:23 utc | 2
About England and its role as Europe’s hyena and the fact that it mercilessly exploits the weakness of the USA.
Whether in Ukraine or in the Middle East, England is provoking in the background with all means. England WANTS to drag the USA into a major conflict and thereby give the USA an internal political coup de grace. That is why they will support Sylensky against every order from the USA if it helps to escalate the conflict. And the madman will have to grasp at EVERY straw if he doesn’t want to be killed by his own Nazis.
England in the Middle East:
It became clear who incited Israel to attack Iran. Today in London it was not ruled out that Great Britain would help the Netanyahu regime to attack Iran.
In this regard, a logical conclusion is obvious: it is the British monarchy that really wants to drag the United States into a major war, acting through the Netanyahu regime and Zelensky’s NATO sub-empire
AND THERE IS THE REAL ENEMY OF HUMANITY
In London on an island that would only exist for minutes if the worst came to the worst, but whose elites will then no longer be on that island.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:24 utc | 3
The mere fact that Newsweek interviewed Lavrov is significant.
I think it is an attempt to recover the very weakened diplomatic aspect of the conflict. Lavrov was starting to sound like Medvedev, speaking in racial terms of reference such as “the Anglo-Saxons”.
Lavrov is smart. He is quoting the very American dictum “mind your own fucking business” instead of preaching in self-righteous inebration and meddling in other people’s affairs.
The Russian position is maximalist. No ceasefire. The root causes of the conflict have to be addressed. This means they are happy carrying on with the war.
Putin is a great manager when it comes to form teams. Russia was so blessed with him becaming top dog in the Russian hierarchy. Btw, go to RT and listen to Putin speaking in English without a Russian accent, thanks to Russian AI.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2024 13:26 utc | 4
Putin speaking in English without a Russian accent, thanks to Russian AI.
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Wrong
It is not the result of an AI that Putin speaks English without an accent.
He speaks German with an accent. German is also a difficult language.
Putin speaks English without an accent. I met him personally several times in 1985 and 1986. Yes, that is the advantage of coming from East Germany and having spent a long time in Russia AND Ukraine, which was still part of Russia at the time. And in the military sector.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:37 utc | 5
Ossi, one day perhaps you and others will realize that no single person or group is dragging anyone into war.
This constant blame shifting seems to be a popular theme among dissidents who view events as being imposed upon helpless victims.
Take a look around you; patriotism is a thing. Sure, it is manipulated as any other belief system (whether secular or ecclesiastical), but like a successful con requiring a willing party, the average westerner has profited immensely from the imperial experience.
(And don’t forget immigrants fighting to get in are well aware of this fact. Their greatest aspiration is to join those holding the whip.)
No, it’s the people themselves who need reformation; leadership merely represents the desires of the extant culture.
Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 13:38 utc | 6
@ Markw, §6:
Ossi is definitely correct in his §3, where he points the finger at England. With a little more focus, the finger would point at the City of London, whose square mile is the Spider´s Web, so well described by Michael Oswald´s 2017 documentary.
Posted by: John Marks | Oct 7 2024 13:47 utc | 7
There’s a rumour going around that 404’s Duce Bigalow went to Sumy and gave a one digit piano performance for the Russians. Then when he finished, he jumped up on the piano, and shook his digit at them. Can you imagine the gall of that little DickTator.
The Russians gave it mixed reviews I hear, unable to decide if it was a performance worthy of the coveted Khinzal award, while some felt it just required a standing ovation from Dr Kalibar……but in the end, he’ll be back for an encore……bravo!
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 7 2024 13:53 utc | 8
Ossi, one day perhaps you and others will realize that no single person or group is dragging anyone into war.
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Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 13:38 utc | 6
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Now, in about 40 years of experiencing socialism first hand, about 12 years of experiencing communism first hand and at the age of 74, I have learned one thing.
It is the small but powerful groups that can and do drive a country into war.
For that, it is enough to have power over the media. The media, which are actually the guardians of democracy, now belong to powerful people with their own interests or to rich people who can be blackmailed, and are therefore no longer relevant as guardians of democracy.
I have seen soldiers shoot soldiers, not the enemy’s soldiers, but their own roommates, just because they were not prepared to risk their lives in burning underground ammunition depots. There was no negotiation, the AK47 was loaded.
Definitely by a few in the upper management.
What do I mean by that? I have experienced at least 2 political systems first hand, actually 3. You talk and write about theories that you have never experienced yourself and perhaps know from bad films. Like about 98% of all commentators here. Believe me, it is enough if a small group wants war or is tasked with leading a people into war, especially if it has power over the media and censorship like in the Western bubble. The average father of a family who works every day doesn’t do any research on the internet, he has to work and at some point believes what he is told. And that is about 89% of all people.
Excuse me, but sometimes it boils over when I have to read opinions from people who will never understand how big Russia is, that there are not enough nuclear weapons in the world to make Russia uninhabitable in its entirety, unlike Europe or the USA, including Canada!
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Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:55 utc | 9
Excuse me, but sometimes it boils over when I have to read opinions from people who will never understand how big Russia is, that there are not enough nuclear weapons in the world to make Russia uninhabitable in its entirety, unlike Europe or the USA, including Canada!
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I have seen cities in the east of Russia that you won’t find on any map…and that was at the very beginning of Putin’s rule.
Why is Putin promoting the construction of entire cities in the east, partly for weapons production? That may be true, the industrial complex in the east of the country is a complex with its own power plants, its own agricultural land, its own steelworks, bakeries and thousands of apartments, theaters, cinemas, etc.
Within a radius of around 450 km there is a restricted area with air defense, etc.
But apart from that, cities are being built in the east up to the Arctic Circle, in which 50% of the apartments are empty…why is that (if the west of the country becomes uninhabitable, for example?)
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Do not underestimate the size of the country or Putin’s foresight!
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 14:05 utc | 10
Ossi is definitely correct in his §3, where he points the finger at England/city of London
John Marks | Oct 7 2024 13:47 utc | 7
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Let’s walk through some basic logic: Does the US/UK government rule through overt tyranny? No. Then, how do they maintain control? (Because, since by the mere fact they exist in the first place means they are achieving some measure of success.)
They achieve buy-in by delivering economic gains to an important non race based demographic group comprised of property owners and wealth holders (eg 401K funds).
I get the feeling many/most dissidents no longer travel nor interact with non like minded people. If you did – like myself – traveling frequently out of the country and interfacing with immigrants, the first thing that would strike you is how much they want to be just like us.
In other words, their primary motivation is to become part of the very essence of being a westerner ie the socio-economic culture. And please don’t retort this is a recent Disneyesque phenomenon; no, these types of sentiments drove immigration to Rome 2,000 years ago.
I know it’s a tough pill to swallow, the realization no single evil entity is responsible. I mean, it’s just much easier and more satisfying to come on a discussion board and complain about “the other” doing something to you.
No, it’s your neighbor buying a new car and/or going on holiday, and the millions like him, who are responsible.
Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 14:12 utc | 11
About 300,000 Russian Orcs have been euthanized already…USA/NATO are laughing…heheheh
Posted by: End Vladolph Pitler | Oct 7 2024 14:36 utc | 12
Posted by: End Vladolph Pitler | Oct 7 2024 14:36 utc | 12
Wonderful handle! Will never need to read you.
Posted by: qparker | Oct 7 2024 14:38 utc | 13
Ossi, one day perhaps you and others will realize that no single person or group is dragging anyone into war.
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Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 13:38 utc | 6
It is the small but powerful groups that can and do drive a country into war.
For that, it is enough to have power over the media.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:55 utc | 9
From a historical perspective, ossi’s observations are spot on correct. Every war that the U.S. entered or started from WW1 depended on the power of propaganda and manipulation….the facts support this….the U.S. populace was lied into supporting every war from the twentieth century onward. And most people seem oblivious which again demonstrates the power of propaganda. Further, the people who end up with the most negative effects are the working class who always bear the brunt of the costs. It’s an old game and technology makes programming a populace much easier, I think. What strikes me as ironic is that the blatant lies get recycled and the uninformed fall for them again and again. Thanks for the perspective you bring ossi….that said, anybody pointing these facts out will rapidly come under fire from the PtB, as did Darryl Cooper recently.
Posted by: Giuseppe | Oct 7 2024 14:42 utc | 14
Wondering what the barflies think of Tom Loungo’s perspective :https://tomluongo.me/2024/10/03/the-roots-of-the-uk-implosion-and-why-war-is-inevitable/
Posted by: dp | Oct 7 2024 14:47 utc | 15
Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 14:12 utc | 11
Immigrants, away from those who escape from really difficult situations such as famine, war or prosecution are simply lured into a dream.
Most of the time they will end up in the situation of accepting to work for minimal wages in jobs no others in the west are desperate enough to do, if any, surely not the life they were dreaming of.
Funny it’s not really different from what most westerner do, lured in the dream of being rich and wealthy by working enough, and ending up in the rat race.
Posted by: Mario | Oct 7 2024 15:03 utc | 16
The Normie American comments on that Newsweek article is why America won’t improve until it worsens.
People fervently believe in the most isolated and juvenile propaganda.
It would be one thing if the masses opposed the Ukraine project. America is not there yet.
When it is, it may be too late economically for the dollar, and the hegemony will become a quaint historical period.
Americans like to talk about “turnings” in their typically selfish way that the whole of reality revolves around Washington DC. While Americans are rotating, the rest of the world is raising living standards, developing economies, and building diplomatic alliances.
Meanwhile .. Taylor Swift was at the Chiefs game!!! OMG!!!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 15:08 utc | 17
ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:55 utc | 9
“I have seen soldiers shoot soldiers, not the enemy’s soldiers, but their own roommates, just because they were not prepared to risk their lives in burning underground ammunition depots. There was no negotiation, the AK47 was loaded.”
From A.G. MacDonnell’s England Their England (1931) – MacDonnell spent two WW1 years as an artillery officer:
We had an English subaltern once in our battery who used to run and extinguish fires in ammunition-dumps.”[Pg 10]
Cameron dropped his cigarette. “He used to do what?”
“Used to put out fires in shell-dumps.”
“But what ever for?”
“He said that shells cost five pounds each and it was everyone’s duty to save Government money.”
“Where is he buried?” asked Cameron.
“In that little cemetery at the back of Vlamertinghe.”
“I know it.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 7 2024 15:14 utc | 18
@LoveDonbass great comments.
The low information masses in the US don’t care about Ukraine because they think they have no skin on the game.
Who cares if half a million Slavs die halfway around the world.
They won’t pay attention until their kids start coming home in body bags. Until then, cheating bad actors like Graham and Blinken can ply their evil trade.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 7 2024 15:15 utc | 19
Posted by: Giuseppe | Oct 7 2024 14:42 utc | 14
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Now, the majority of the comments here are very philosophical, “what if” “why doesn’t Putin go faster?”
Russia has problems…or 300,000 orcs, which by the way is proof of the IQ of an empty bucket of water! But no matter, this forum is there for philosophizing, just from the knowledge…NO ONE KNOWS anything, everyone assumes or like in football etc. everyone is the best coach, everyone else is stupid. Which, by the way, is the worst kind of person for me. I try to say in a roundabout way every now and then that, as they say, I’m over 70 and come from the east of Germany, I at least know Russians and Russia, have traveled through a large part of Russia and NOT as a tourist! I hardly think anyone here at the bar can say that about themselves? By the way and for historical reasons, I experienced communism and socialism live and now capitalism myself and LIVE!! You TOO?? I have seen Russian ammunition depots, although not up to the 17th floor underground… I have laughed, drunk and sung with Russians AND Ukrainians, who are also Russians, by the way… you too?
I know the mentality of the Russians, which differs very, very drastically from region to region of the former Soviet Republics.
Oh yes, after my time in the army, I spent about 12 years working in Russia and in almost every nuclear power plant there, where we restored turbines.
Well, it doesn’t matter… it doesn’t matter who writes what here, Russia cannot be defeated, and it should only be divided by the WEST, because one thing is clear to EVERY analyst… WITHOUT the raw materials, without the agricultural land of Russia and its natural resources, not only is Europe not viable, but THE WEST as a whole will perish and have to knock on the Kremlin’s door… at the moment they are knocking with grenades instead of choosing the ONLY OPTION: WORKING TOGETHER.
Without Russia, the world’s starving people will literally eat up the West… Unrest will topple governments!
THE WEST will soon only be able to build weapons from old weapons… Example… not a SINGLE tank of the new generation has rolled off the production line in Germany so far… Reason: NO raw materials from steel to titanium to chemicals for explosives
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Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 15:18 utc | 20
Ossi (3):
It’s not teh Joos. It’s teh Limeys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTFH3RTRcPk
/joking about conspiracies 😉
Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 7 2024 15:20 utc | 21
Ossi, one day perhaps you and others will realize that no single person or group is dragging anyone into war.
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Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 13:38 utc | 6
It is the small but powerful groups that can and do drive a country into war.
For that, it is enough to have power over the media.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:55 utc | 9
From a historical perspective, ossi’s observations are spot on correct. Every war that the U.S. entered or started from WW1 depended on the power of propaganda and manipulation….the facts support this….the U.S. populace was lied into supporting every war from the twentieth century onward. And most people seem oblivious which again demonstrates the power of propaganda. Further, the people who end up with the most negative effects are the working class who always bear the brunt of the costs. It’s an old game and technology makes programming a populace much easier, I think. What strikes me as ironic is that the blatant lies get recycled and the uninformed fall for them again and again. Thanks for the perspective you bring ossi….that said, anybody pointing these facts out will rapidly come under fire from the PtB, as did Darryl Cooper recently.
Posted by: Giuseppe | Oct 7 2024 14:42 utc | 14
It is a small but very rich and powerful group of people that have controlling the western work for thousands of years if not more that can drive any country and any 3 letter organization to WAR against who the want whenever they want.
The only real “oligarchs” on this planet because they have both huge wealth financially and physically AND huge power of command over countries and peoples.
This small group of people is hidden, you never know their names or locations, they have very high intelligence and a strong culture of predators that oppose the general population.
IF they want war, there will be war. IF they want Armageddon there will be Armageddon.
Israel, US, UK and other just mimic “some” but not all of their features.
There, I fixed it for you.
Posted by: bog | Oct 7 2024 15:23 utc | 22
@ ossi
i like and appreciate your posts.. thanks for sharing and keep posting..
@ sean
that was pretty funny.. thanks!
Posted by: james | Oct 7 2024 15:27 utc | 23
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 7 2024 15:14 utc | 18
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You’re confusing something…
I was a witness in modern times and live in the middle of Germany at the time when Russia still had around 500,000 soldiers in Germany…and a fire in the underground warehouse where not only ammunition was stored but also tanks and SS20 rocket ramps on 6 floors…and other technology was stored…a facility that had already been used by the Wehrmacht, IN THE MIDDLE of a residential area. This residential area was built in the 80s in a macabre manner around this underground facility. Why is that?…camouflage or protection?
As I said, around 35 soldiers were shot in the open field by their comrades…just like Azov shoots his own people in the Ukraine today when they don’t follow orders…
These around 35 soldiers at the time simply refused to go down into this fiery hell…and to put out the burning tank down there, their probably certain death
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 15:28 utc | 24
The Chinese congratulated Putin on his birthday by launching numerous drones that formed his image in the sky
Today, on Vladimir Putin’s birthday, Kiev partisans posted more than 1,000 leaflets with the image of the Russian president
In one of the courtyards of the capital of Ukraine, a TCC bus was discovered, and it was completely covered with leaflets.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 7 2024 15:32 utc | 26
This small group of real “oligarchs” have lost their grip on Russia because a new group of “siloviki” existed and raised there and brought Putin to power.
They lost their grip on China because the Communist party of China is another such group that got the power there and found a good way to maintain and propagate it over long time periods.
Hence we have the current and future unsolvable conflicts because “other” powerfully groups are “not acceptable” to this “originals” oligarch group
Ukraine was is because of this, Palestine region war is also because of this Taiwan was will be because of this.
Posted by: bog | Oct 7 2024 15:32 utc | 27
Ukraine Weekly Update, 4th October 2024: In case you missed it: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-6ff
Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Oct 7 2024 15:32 utc | 28
thanks for the link to lavrovs commentary in newsweek b..
it is mildly surprising that they have printed it.. next thing you know they will reverse their censorship on rt news, lol… but i doubt it.. lavrov is on target as usual.. maybe some of his input will penetrate, but i doubt it will affect the neo cons in power serving the interesting of the military, banking and energy complex… eisenhower was very prescient..
Posted by: james | Oct 7 2024 15:32 utc | 29
They won’t pay attention until their kids start coming home in body bags. Until then, cheating bad actors like Graham and Blinken can ply their evil trade.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 7 2024 15:15 utc | 19
My kids won’t be coming home in body bags. They burned their draft cards during the Vietnam war, and I’ve told my kids to do the same if/when they restart the draft here. I told them they’re not going to die to protect the borders of some corrupt, third-world country when our government won’t even protect our own borders.
Posted by: Phil R | Oct 7 2024 15:36 utc | 30
eisenhower was very prescient..
Posted by: james | Oct 7 2024 15:32 utc | 29
Perhaps, but he never bothered to do anything about it, it did not disturb his golf game.
Posted by: qparker | Oct 7 2024 15:38 utc | 31
ossi 3
You obviously haven’t studied the British monarchy. Our King hadxa miserable childhood pretending to be something he wasn’t. He had
a miserable marriage to someone who was pretending to be something she wasn’t. 5
Do you really think in all that personal solitude he has energy to plot how make the US even more stupid and aggressive than it already is.
The US has already genocided many fine civilisations, the indigenous Americans, the enslaved Africans, Korea , Japan, Vietnam , the Philippines, the Midfle East, now Australia and Ukraine.
And this is all the machinations or maybe masturbations of a repressed British elite.
As Macron said to Mrs May after the stretched open her political thighs to be passionstely transduced:
I’d rather die than put my beautifully formed square French dick into your bone dry British political round ‘ole ‘ole. Ferk oeuf!
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 7 2024 15:43 utc | 32
Please let’s have ‘A clear statement of today’ :
>> The currently ongoing Israhell’s genocide war actions (against its neighbors in Gaza+Libanon+WestBank/Syria) is that :
NO-ONE (of UN + ROW !) is and won’t be further ‘interested’ so far to react on the current war crimes & genocide attacks performed by IDF Nazi Leaders,
EXCEPT FOR S-Africa !
Why only this S-Africa country is still fighting politically against Israhell, which its population stands 95% behind its Nethan-Government ?
Where are any sanction planned against Israhell now starting from ? – Actually, no sanctions even from the ‘Arab states’! .. why is that ..?
Posted by: spare_trueh_01 | Oct 7 2024 15:43 utc | 33
@ qparker | Oct 7 2024 15:38 utc | 31
that may be true, but a bigger question is what is anyone doing about it today and at present?? it is the same shills for corporate power that appear to have undue influence on the decisions in washington.. how is that going to change??
Posted by: james | Oct 7 2024 15:53 utc | 34
Posted by: dp | Oct 7 2024 14:47 utc | 15
If somebody called 90% of all NFL matches wrong would you still sign up to their tipping service ?
Tom Loungo’s perspective is idiotic if not stupid. Has anything he predicted ever come true ? Nope because he doesn’t understand it.
The Duran had Tom Loungo predict all sorts of things which were all false. He’s as stupid as that German Kim.com.
The Duran had Jim Rogers on predicting nonsense. Who is the twin of Stanley Druckenmiller and predicting nonsense for nearly 5 years now. Tom Loungo is their butler.
It is amazing how these people get lucky once and are wrong 90% of the time. Yet, the zombies still believe them. I suppose if you get lucky once and you run a hedge fund and Make 5% it can set you up for life. Suddenly you are tagged with the word legend or guru. They are griffters, second hand car salesman of the financial industry. Who get things wrong 90% of the time.
Michael Hudson explained why they are all wrong.
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/09/debunking-u-s-bankruptcy-myths/
The Duran will never have a split screen with 2 people on opposite sides of the debate. You know how any normal civil society would behave. Alex and Alexander just surround themselves with people who suffer from GROUPTHINK. Alexander’s GROUPTHINK that is. As if every country in the world uses the Euro like Greece.
Ideology and GROUPTHINK attract numpties like flies around Tom Loungo and Jim Rogers. So please don’t ask what anybody thinks about Tom Loungo views just point them in the direction where he actually got anything right. Good luck with that endeavour.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 7 2024 16:03 utc | 35
So, MarkW is the latest misanthropy troll. I suppose he’s Vargas’ slightly spicier replacement.
In the last few days he’s very keen to convince us that the downtrodden wage slaves of the west 1) uniformly do not care about similarly situated people in other countries and 2) that they are “benefiting greatly” from 25 years of losing wars, massive debt, inflation and all the rest.
His unstated point is that the American wage slave and it’s master see eye to eye on everything. He can’t say it up front because it’s too obviously false, so we get it suggested via vulgar and pithy comments.
Nonetheless, good lesson. If you meet someone on the street who talks like this you’ll know he’s working for your imperial masters.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 16:03 utc | 36
Posted by: Markw | Oct 7 2024 14:12 utc | 11
You’re just wrong. The so-called democracies like in UK et al. are delusions, and the people there are brainwashed, mostly by the media corporations, which belong to the same class as the politicians and bureaucrats. These powers work against their populations.
Ossi has some extremely interesting observations based on experience. Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your contributions.
Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 7 2024 16:05 utc | 37
The Duran will never have a split screen with 2 people on opposite sides of the debate. You know how any normal civil society would behave. Alex and Alexander just surround themselves with people who suffer from GROUPTHINK. Alexander’s GROUPTHINK that is. As if every country in the world uses the Euro like Greece.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 7 2024 16:03 utc | 36
Well, knock me down with a feather. “Normal society” as I recollect in the west is kill lists, assasinations of opponents and demonetizing alternative spokespersons.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 7 2024 16:12 utc | 38
Like the proverbial bad penny, DerekHenryBillMitchell’s NewWaylandEchoChamber has returned.
Yay.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 7 2024 16:13 utc | 39
@ Giuseppe, §14:
Agreed, Guiseppe. Ossi is spot on.
Markw may say it´s never just one person. Yeh, but it usually is just a few or, at most, an “élite”.
Human society was always so: we organize in families and then tribes and then nations. And, through evolution, we´ve developed laws on how to live with each other and how to settle disputes, which will always exist.
The nation is the highest form of such civilized organization that has naturally evolved.
Nation states have got a bad name recently (past century or two) because the leader(s) have overridden their laws.
They become gangsters. That can happen at any level: family, tribe, nation. Fortunately it usually stays at the lowest level, such as the Mafia crime “families”. But when the gangster phenomenon rises up to a national level, the destruction that can be unleashed is horrendous (e.g. WW1, WW2). We shouldn´t oppose nation states: we should oppose gangsterism in their leaders which is why it´s so essential for a free press to continually hold them to account.
Ossi´s right: some of the western governments (US, UK, EU) have trampled on their own laws, with censorship, arbitrary arrests, etc. They have become gangs. To take one example, the EU gang run by Ursula Fond-of-Lying is riddled with corruption and behaves just like Mafiosi, ripping off its own citizens to fund the EU´s massive bureaucracy in the style to which they´ve become accustomed. So intelligent foreign policy comes a long way down their list of priorities.
I forget the psychologists who showed it takes only 10%, if greedy or fanatical enough, of the population to take over. That´s what´s happened in the US, EU & UK.
Posted by: John Marks | Oct 7 2024 16:14 utc | 40
ossi is right. Michael Hudson also says that the neocons in the USA started as a small group of people…
Posted by: vargas | Oct 7 2024 16:14 utc | 41
ossi @ 3
The UK and France were the big losers at the end of WW2 more than Germany, they both lost their empires, Germany never had one, just the dream. The UK didn’t get the message until the 1956 Sue Crisis, after that its place as vassal was finalized. Japan tried to break its chains in the mid ’80s (Plaza Accords) and got it’s legs broken and put back in clinker and has been there ever since, I’m sure there were plenty of unheeded warnings and threats, hence the harshness.
Germany dared the same, to break its chains, after the fall of the USSR trying to expand its influence and capital into Russia and China outside of USA control, it also had its economy crushed with NS2 being just the most dramatic part, and again surely it was repeatedly warned. Japan never was allowed to fully recover, Germany will be the same, The Emperor is merciless. The UK’s greed and bloodlust are prized and channeled by the USA but it’s on a leash, it’s top dog in the kennel, the right hand man, and I think too smart to dare much, and unlike Japan and Germany its economic might had already withered by the 1970s, it has no saw to break its chains.
Neither the UK or Israel or anyone else controls the USA, they might calculate and manipulate, daggers behind every curtain, blackmail galore, but if London ever betrays the Emperor it’ll get broken badly like Japan and Germany, probably worse given its rank (not that there’s much left to break in the UK). Israel can ruin half the politicians, CEOs, journalists and cultural figures in the USA but they can’t break its power, the USA could break Israel in half if it comes to it just like it did Japan and Germany. That’s where the real power lies, the power to totally crush its allies much more than its enemies, the vassals, all of them, are always on thin ice.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 7 2024 16:18 utc | 42
Markw 6
My friend, it seems like you mean to say that the United States and its imperial partners (EU, Aukus) are the wonderful place where all immigrants want to go to integrate into these victorious democracies, right?
Well, let me tell you a little secret: When European countries discovered that it was very profitable to go around the world robbing and killing, extorting, extinguishing peoples, enslaving, they accumulated fortunes. These goods were transformed into financial values that manifest themselves today through the dollar currency (euro, pound and yen are just subdivisions of the dollar). These stolen goods transformed into dollars still enslave the rest of the world. For those who live in countries with these currencies, it is wonderful to pay a restaurant bill here in Brazil with 3 dollars, while we Brazilians, or others from the global South, if we go to New York, in one lunch we spend three days of our work. Immigrants desperately seek out these countries because working there cleaning toilets earns the same as a doctor in their countries.
Now here’s the secret: if the rest of the world can get rid of the dollar (and consequently the euro, pound, etc., which are the dollar’s offspring), this slavery will end. Then the inhabitants of the Elisabeth Arden circuit will know what it really means to work for a living.
Posted by: José Gomes | Oct 7 2024 16:19 utc | 43
re: S-400 & Turkey & USA issue
– do we have a serious assessment of this?
Some say it´s nothing because US already has the info they can get through reverse-engineering.
And we have the S-500/550 anyway.
Posted by: AG | Oct 7 2024 16:20 utc | 44
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2024 13:26 utc | 4
> Btw, go to RT and listen to Putin speaking in English without a Russian accent, thanks to Russian AI.
He sounds like Yuval Harari.
Actually they look similar too.
Posted by: hopehely | Oct 7 2024 16:22 utc | 45
It would be one thing if the masses opposed the Ukraine project. America is not there yet.
When it is, it may be too late economically for the dollar, and the hegemony will become a quaint historical period.
Americans like to talk about “turnings” in their typically selfish way that the whole of reality revolves around Washington DC. While Americans are rotating, the rest of the world is raising living standards, developing economies, and building diplomatic alliances.
Meanwhile .. Taylor Swift was at the Chiefs game!!! OMG!!!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 15:08 utc | 17
As Lavrov stated in the interview he earnestly believes the “masses” in the US agree with his viewpoint on Ukraine: that the US should mind it’s own business. His confidence is not misplaced.
Don’t get too caught up in the imperial propaganda. You see, it’s designed to convince you every American is just as psychopathic and irredeemable as their masters. Oh and that everyone in the US is fat, rich and happy. Don’t believe the hype, Love.
As for Taylor, that’s popular with the little girls and their ditzy aging mothers. Nobody else gives a shit.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 16:24 utc | 46
Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 7 2024 16:12 utc | 39
Does that mean Duran has to copy it ?
Get Michael Hudson on a split screen v’s Lougano or Rogers. It will be apparent within 5 mins who is the idiot.
Ask them to debunk this
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/09/debunking-u-s-bankruptcy-myths/
It would be like willy coyote trying to catch the roadrunner.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 7 2024 16:25 utc | 47
36 son of Alabama
Thanks, I think for your reply. I didn’t ask about the Duran, so why you included your thoughts on the Duran I am not sure. Also why does your handle take me back to the Moon of Alabama..
Posted by: dp | Oct 7 2024 16:31 utc | 48
As there appears to be some topic drift let’s bring it back with today’s Russian Defence Ministry SMO update:
Russian Defence Ministry reports on the progress of the special military operation (7 October 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
The Sever Group of Forces in Liptsy and Volchansk directions engaged the units of the 57th Motorised Infantry Brigade, 71st Jaeger Brigade, 92nd Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 113th Territorial Defence Brigade in Malye Prokhody, Liptsy, Verkhnyaya Pisarevka, Volchansk, and Khripuny (Kharkov region).
The AFU lost up to 95 troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, two pickup trucks, and one 152-mm Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system.
The Zapad Group’s units have taken more advantageous lines and positions. Russian troops hit personnel and materiel of the 30th, 44th, 63rd, 66th mechanised brigades, 3rd Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 114th Territorial Defence Brigade, and 1st National Guard Brigade close to Kupyansk, Petropavlovka, Novoosinovo, Kruglyakovka, Lozovaya, and Druzhelyubovka (Kharkov region), and Torskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Four counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the 14th and 116th mechanised brigades of the AFU were repelled.
The enemy losses amounted to more than 410 troops, two infantry fighting vehicles, six motor vehicles, one 155-mm Braveheart self-propelled artillery system, one UK-made 105-mm L-119 gun, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers; and one M113 armoured personnel carrier, one MaxxPro armoured fighting vehicle, and one 155-mm M198 howitzer made by the USA.
One Anklav-N electronic warfare station and two field ammunition depots were destroyed.
The Yug Group of Forces continued advancing to the depth of enemy defences. The Group engaged the units of the 22nd, 30th, 54th, 93rd mechanised brigades, 56th Motorised Infantry Brigade, 144th Infantry Brigade, 46th Airmobile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and 18th National Guard Brigade close to Serebryanka, Alekseyevo-Druzkovka, Seversk, Nikiforovka, Verolyubovka, Stupochki, Predtechino, Belaya Gora, Maksimilyanovka, and Katerinovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Two counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the 28th Mechanised Brigade and 81st Airmobile Brigade of the AFU were repelled.
The enemy sustained losses of up to 590 troops, 19 motor vehicles, one UK-made 155-mm FH-70 howitzer, one U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzer, and three U.S.-made 105-mm M119 howitzers, one 152-mm D-20 gun, and one 122-mm D-30 howitzer.
One Anklav-N electronic warfare station and two field ammunition depots were destroyed.
As a result of decisive actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces units, Grodovka (Donetsk People’s Republic) was liberated.
They also inflicted fire damage on the 23rd, 24th, 33rd, and 150th mechanised brigades, 5th Tank Brigade, 25th Airborne Brigade, 95th Air Assault Brigade of the AFU, 112th, 117th, and 120th territorial defence brigades, 12th and 14th national guard brigades close to Aleksandro-Kalinovo, Dzerzhinsk, Sukhaya Balka, Dimitrov, Lysovka, Selidovo, Tsukurino, Krasnoye (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Raypole (Dnepropetrovsk region).
Ten counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the 42nd, 53rd, 100th, 151st mechanised brigades, 152nd Infantry Brigade, 68th Jaeger Brigade, 5th Assault Brigade, and 49th Assault Battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were repelled.
The enemy lost more than 420 troops, one German-made Leopard tank, three armoured fighting vehicles, six motor vehicles, three 152-mm Msta-B howitzers, and two U.S.-made 105-mm M119 guns.
The Vostok Group of Forces has improved the tactical situation. They inflicted damage on manpower and materiel of the 33rd and 72nd mechanised brigades, 58th Motorised Infantry Brigade of the AFU, 110th and 128th territorial defence brigades, and 21st National Guard Brigade close to Dobrovolye, Zolotaya Niva, Velikaya Novoselka, Razliv, Zelyonoye Pole (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The Russian troops repelled a counter-attack launched by an assault group of the 116th Territorial Defence Brigade.
The AFU losses amounted to up to 120 troops, one infantry fighting vehicle, one U.S.-made HMMWV armoured fighting vehicle, nine motor vehicles, two UK-made 155-mm FH-70 howitzers, one 152-mm D-20 gun and one 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system.
The Dnepr Group of Forces has engaged personnel and hardware of the 65th Mechanised Brigade, 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU, the 35th Marine Brigade, and the 124th Territorial Defence Brigades close to Malaya Tokmachka, Novodanilovka (Zaporozhye region), Nikolskoye, and Veletenskoye (Kherson region).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 80 troops, five motor vehicles, three 152-mm D-20 guns, and one field ammunition depot.
Operational-Tactical Aviation, attack unmanned aerial vehicles, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have obliterated an Israeli-made RADA RPS-42 multi-role radar and hit the infrastructure of two military airfields, depots storing ammunition and military hardware of the AFU, production workshops and storage sites of unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as clusters of manpower and military hardware of the AFU in 129 areas.
Air defence systems shot down three ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, five U.S.-made HIMARS projectiles, as well as 74 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 646 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 33,013 unmanned aerial vehicles, 580 anti-aircraft missile systems, 18,544 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,469 MLRS combat vehicles, 15,743 field artillery guns and mortars, and 27,020 units of support military vehicles have been neutralised.
https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12532001@egNews
Mention of attacks on airfield infrastructure may corroborate something I saw on one pro-Russian outlet about Kinzhal strikes on the airfield purportedly housing the F-16s at Starokonstantinov. Needless to say, Ukrainian outlets claim to have shot down all Kinzhals; I’m not sure what with though, jars of pickles perhaps?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 16:34 utc | 49
As for Taylor, that’s popular with the little girls and their ditzy aging mothers. Nobody else gives a shit.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 16:24 utc | 47
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The esteemed 🙄 American Zionist thinker, Andrew Breitbart, famously said that politics is downstream of culture.
100s of millions of dollars follow every move Taylor Swift makes.
While it is not your or my taste, she has enormous social power. There is no benefit in denying that or looking down our noses at it.
My point is that superficial people are the mortar at the foundation of the fascist state.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 16:39 utc | 50
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 16:24 utc | 47
>Don’t get too caught up in the imperial propaganda. You see, it’s designed to convince you every American is just as psychopathic and irredeemable as their masters.
>Oh and that everyone in the US is fat, rich and happy.
Right, it is actually the other way around: in the US everyone is either fat, or rich, or happy.
And there are more fat people than rich people. Way more.
Posted by: hopehely | Oct 7 2024 16:46 utc | 51
The US and Britain were directly involved in the terrorist attack on Nord Stream – the Head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Naryshkin.
Why is the German population so uninterested in the fate of NS?
Posted by: vargas | Oct 7 2024 16:49 utc | 52
Why is the German population so uninterested in the fate of NS?
Posted by: vargas | Oct 7 2024 16:49 utc | 53
There is a saying which goes something like this:
“So lange Bier im Kühlschrank und Fussball in der Glotze, bewegt sich der deutsche Michel nicht.”
“As long as there’s beer in the fridge and football on the TV, the German Michel won’t move.”
Posted by: NoName | Oct 7 2024 16:54 utc | 53
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 16:39 utc | 51
Its is a cultural conflict at its core. Even Lavrov misses that or rather doesnt get into it as it is too complex to articulate in an interview.
The West is a postmodern, post-industrial, post-truth, post-younameit society. It is very very different and mostly contradictory to what is mainstream in emerging countries.
I am 45 and constantly have a feeling, ever since 5-6 years ago, that there is a ravine between me and those in their 20s. Generational gaps have always been there but this is something different. They are alien to me.
Posted by: alek_a | Oct 7 2024 17:03 utc | 54
Why is the German population so uninterested in the fate of NS?
Posted by: vargas | Oct 7 2024 16:49 utc | 53
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Why is the German populationpress so uninterested in the fate of NS?
Don’t confuse the people with the media. People in Germany who speak out are punished.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 7 2024 17:05 utc | 55
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 7 2024 16:58 utc | 55
And what will threats achieve? It is better to say that the response to every action will be a reaction calibrated at that specific moment and taking into account the situation as it is then. That is what reality is.
Threats can be abused by the other side to challenge you and bring you at disadvantage.
Posted by: alek_a | Oct 7 2024 17:08 utc | 56
“So lange Bier im Kühlschrank und Fussball in der Glotze, bewegt sich der deutsche Michel nicht.”
“As long as there’s beer in the fridge and football on the TV, the German Michel won’t move.”
Play the right music, and they will march right behind you.
I will not link to these, as some are illegal in Germany, but use a good search engine and look up Panzerlied and Horst-Wessel Lied. You will see what I mean
Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 7 2024 17:24 utc | 57
On who holds power, read “The Populist delusion” by Neema Parvini
Small organise groups will always rule the majority
He puts forward a good case
Look at all governments, there is an in group in every one. The most honest is the Chinese or Korean system.
Posted by: Wazdaka | Oct 7 2024 17:24 utc | 58
There is a saying which goes something like this:
“So lange Bier im Kühlschrank und Fussball in der Glotze, bewegt sich der deutsche Michel nicht.”
“As long as there’s beer in the fridge and football on the TV, the German Michel won’t move.”
Posted by: NoName | Oct 7 2024 16:54 utc | 54
Wasn’t it the Romans who said, panem et circenses?
Posted by: Phil R | Oct 7 2024 17:27 utc | 59
Some say it´s nothing because US already has the info they can get through reverse-engineering.
And we have the S-500/550 anyway.
Posted by: AG | Oct 7 2024 16:20 utc | 45
S-500/550 doesn’t supercede the S-300 or S-400 it specializes in an area of the sky and threats that the S-400 or S-300 doesn’t fully cover. These different models don’t supercede each other … the supplement each other. Because they are networked an S-350 is improved by an S-500 because it’s able to use the S-500’s radar data. The Russians are also constantly upgrading these weapons systems so that even 50 year old systems like Syria’s S-200 are still a threat today.
The Turkish S-400 won’t be the same weapon as a Russian S-400. It’ll be a downgraded model so if the Americans get hold of it it won’t be what the Russians are using.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 7 2024 17:30 utc | 60
Btw, go to RT and listen to Putin speaking in English without a Russian accent, thanks to Russian AI.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2024 13:26 utc | 4
Regardless of “AI,” do you have a direct link?
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 7 2024 17:31 utc | 61
The esteemed 🙄 American Zionist thinker, Andrew Breitbart, famously said that politics is downstream of culture.
100s of millions of dollars follow every move Taylor Swift makes.
While it is not your or my taste, she has enormous social power. There is no benefit in denying that or looking down our noses at it.
My point is that superficial people are the mortar at the foundation of the fascist state.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 16:39 utc | 51
I think he stole that from Gramsci, but to your point, Id say you’re grossly overestimating Taylor’s “social power” as the imperial propaganda wishes you to.
The larger issue is really that the ROW is too dismissive of its potentially strongest ally in the belly of the beast: the downtrodden American wage slaves.
You can’t really end US imperialism without the American working class. This dismissive attitude to the workers is closely related to the notorious race obsessions of the boomer generation. It originated as a key plank of the boomer anti Communism.
And it ain’t too far off of the misanthropy of empire trolls like MarkW or little Vargas.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 17:32 utc | 62
dp @15
Yes!! I read that article of Tom’s last night and I was floored to be honest. He laid everything out geopolitically, financially and socially. He connected all the fvckin dots for all to see and it did seem fantastical at first but I had to read long stretches of it over again and IF that’s a big IF….Luongo has nailed it, then we all need to follow this course of action to the letter. I have 50 acres of remote woodland up in Northern Ontario and I’m definitely going to take all my supplies and then some and hunker down up there for a few years to see what fleshes out of Tom Luongo’s amazing article.
Read it folks you will be surprised!!
Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 7 2024 17:42 utc | 63
Putin doesn’t need an AI to speak perfect English without an accent. He speaks perfect English, you clever people, I was able to see that for myself in Dresden in 1988.
When he speaks German, you can hear an accent, but German is also a difficult language… and I am German.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 17:42 utc | 64
But apart from that, cities are being built in the east up to the Arctic Circle, in which 50% of the apartments are empty…why is that (if the west of the country becomes uninhabitable, for example?)
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Do not underestimate the size of the country or Putin’s foresight!
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 14:05 utc | 10
Enjoyable posts, thank you. I would also like to add one thing – People live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Since 1947. Making an area permanently uninhabitable, especially a large area, is far from as simple as some people seem to think. Now, yes, Little Boy and Fat Man weren’t huge atomic bombs, but while modern nuclear weapons are regularly a hell of a lot more powerful, they are also fusion based, and those are a lot cleaner.
Oh and by the way, unless someone gets some wrong ideas, this is not me saying that nuclear weapons aren’t incredibly dangerous or that the result of widespread use would be anything short of catastrophic.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 7 2024 17:47 utc | 65
It is impossible for anyone to speak without an accent!
And it is impossible for Putin (or anyone else) to speak any foreign language without a Russian accent, unless it has been taught to him by a native speaker during his childhood.
Speaking without your mother tongue accent is only possible in a language that is another mother tongue to you.
And that is a fact.
Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 7 2024 17:50 utc | 66
@17
“The Normie American comments on that Newsweek article is why America won’t improve until it worsens.”
Many “commentators” on Newsweek articles are probably AI bots, programmed to spew anti-Russian sentiment and pro-Ukraine/NATO rhetoric. I’ve often hung out there (when feeling bored and cantankerous) and I simply cannot believe that I’m dealing with actual humans in those comments sections.
Concerning media outlets using AI bots to push an ideological message, Newsweek’s the worst of the worst. I encourage people here to sample Newsweek’s forums on Russia-Ukraine articles. You’ll see what I’m talking about concerning the bots.
Posted by: GW | Oct 7 2024 17:51 utc | 67
This dismissive attitude to the workers is closely related to the notorious race obsessions of the boomer generation. It originated as a key plank of the boomer anti Communism. And it ain’t too far off of the misanthropy of empire trolls like MarkW or little Vargas.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 17:32 utc | 64
You can say that again. It’s a point that needs to be made often and with vigor. It should be patently obvious to everyone, but no political power can exist without being grounded in an actual base of power. Who would care if the beggars and thieves went on strike? Nevertheless, most Anarchists never got that memo.
We don’t have the working class we wish we have. We have the working class that actually exists. We have to deal with it.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 7 2024 18:01 utc | 68
Posted by: GW | Oct 7 2024 17:51 utc | 70
Its also a very cheap tool by Ukrainian information warfare to do their job. AI bots on social networks are a big issue.
Posted by: alek_a | Oct 7 2024 18:06 utc | 69
Son of a Alabama @36
Your whole comment made me sick to my fvcking stomach. You and your hero Hudson of course are looking at the “problem of debt” from a govt. and rich person’s perspective which doesn’t mean anything to us regular folks. Hudson goes on and on about other countries’ governments and other countries rich people but didn’t say ONE fvcking word about the devastation of main street, the middle class here and all the poor people in those fvcking countries!! A$$hole, nobody gives a flying fvck about the rich! We will see the purchasing power of our currency in our pockets drop insanely until we are carrying paper promises in a fvcking wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread you smarmy dumbass!! STFU!
Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 7 2024 18:13 utc | 70
Posted by: AG | Oct 7 2024 16:20 utc | 45
“Some say it´s nothing because US already has the info they can get through reverse-engineering.”
Well, strangely enough, the US hasn’t had much success with that either. It’s all very well having a diagram, but you also need metallurgical knowledge, industrial capacity, highly educated technicians, the sense to stop trying to ‘improve’ what is already good enough, and a results based attitude rather than a ‘stocks and shares’ based attitude. US education and industry have fallen off a cliff in the last 30 or so years, and ‘profits’ rule now. Not that the latter were ever missing, but all the enabling factors have gone. Boeing is a good example (airliners and ground to space), but the ‘Littoral Combat Ships’, the ‘Zumwalt’ destroyers, Abrams tank and the F-35 are significant others.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 7 2024 18:17 utc | 71
ossi @ 66
Putin doesn’t need an AI to speak perfect English without an accent… When he speaks German, you can hear an accent…
I’ll see you three-language-Putin and raise you a Biden that speaks in surreal mumbles plus a Harris that speaks like an aphasic plus a Trump that speaks weird crap about eating cats and dogs.
Actually, thanks for resolving that, I always wondered if Putin knew English and how well, turns out you can just google it and there’s several vids of him speaking, but I keep forgetting there’s an internet even when I’m on it, must be a generational thing.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 7 2024 18:22 utc | 72
Tichy @68
There is documentation, interviews and video proof on the ground from learned analysts that state H and N were actually attacked by a vacuum bomb kinda like what Russia has been dropping in Ukraine. There is one helluva shockwave that flattens a lot of infrastructure in it’s wake. Where was the intense gamma rays that destroy dna. Researchers found very little of that in those cities…
Posted by: bisfugged | Oct 7 2024 18:26 utc | 73
“I met him personally several times in 1985 and 1986…”
Fun fact that every Ossi – especially those who come from that former beautiful baroque town up the river – met Putin in the 80’s one way or another.
Posted by: Bart Schuster | Oct 7 2024 18:28 utc | 74
LightYearsFromHome | Oct 7 2024 16:18 utc | 43
“the USA could break Israel in half if it comes to it just like it did Japan and Germany”
Theoretically, yes, except that Jewish people are hugely over-represented in the American ruling elite and would be very much against it. It would be like trying to abolish serfdom in medieval England despite the fact that the people in power all owned serfs.
Serfdom only (slowly) vanished after the Black Death, which killed maybe a third of the population and suddenly made labour a very precious and sought-after resource.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 7 2024 18:31 utc | 75
When he speaks German, you can hear an accent, but German is also a difficult language… and I am German.
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 17:42 utc | 66
Ja, so ist das: Putin hat nicht Deutsch gelernt, weil er die Deutschen gehaßt hat, und seine Ex war ja auch Deutschlehrerin. Die strategisch ausbaubare Sympathie Puntins für die deutsche Bevölkerung haben deutsche Regierungen auf Druck der USA in die Scheiße gehauen. Und was passiert denn jetzt ? Die Asiaten haben euch eure Webereien, eure Fotoindustrie und eure Unterhaltunsindustrie genommen – Widerstand gab es nicht. Vor zwanzig Jahren waren pharmazeutische Wirkstoffe aus Indien schon halb so teuer wie aus Deutschland. Und jetzt wird eure Automobilindustrie geschlachtet. Ihr hättet Partner im Osten gebraucht, die im Westen waren noch nie eure Freunde. Aber seit 45 seid ihr die Lutscher der Amerikaner und wollt auch gar nichts anderes mehr sein. Ja dann, Bonne Chance…
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 7 2024 18:36 utc | 76
You can’t really end US imperialism without the American working class. This dismissive attitude to the workers is closely related to the notorious race obsessions of the boomer generation. It originated as a key plank of the boomer anti Communism.
And it ain’t too far off of the misanthropy of empire trolls like MarkW or little Vargas.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 7 2024 17:32 utc | 64
###########
I am not trying to end the US Empire. It will end on its own when its time has come and gone.
Don’t call me a misanthrope, I might fall in love with you.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 18:38 utc | 77
79
Exactly
There has been no American ruling class since 1963/67 and clearly in the light of day since 1991/97
Bear in mind that in 1917 London promised to give Palestine to a bunch of Ukrainian and Polish fanatics if they managed to get the Americans into the war on London’s behalf
And in 1947 they bought Truman with a million dollars
And let us remember the very famous aviator whose public image was destroyed for speaking the truth in public. And that was then.
Since 1963/67 it is completely ridiculous to think that there is an American political power.
The coalition forged (1963/67) …
(1) Imperial party
(2) Zionist party
(3) Corporatocratic party
… has reached (1997-) a high degree of interpenetration because currently almost the same characters are active in the three parties at the same time
and on top of that the coalition has been joined (2000-) by the fourth power:
(4) The Colossal Media Bubble
Posted by: Simon | Oct 7 2024 18:44 utc | 78
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 7 2024 16:03 utc | 36
Congratulations captain obvious for figuring out that people love an echo chamber. No one wants to hear a debate, they want afirmation. Myself included.
I’m curious … how many years of life on this planet did it take for you to come to this conclusion?
Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 7 2024 18:51 utc | 79
1967
– Sir, I see the American flag
– Never mind, follow orders
Why did they kill the American sailors
Well, for a number of reasons if you like; but all those who discuss the incident forget the main reason: – to make clear who is the ‘top dog’
In the year 70 the legions of Titus and Vespasian, Legio V Macedon, Legio X Fretensis, Legio X V Apollinarus, destroy the Temple
In the year 1967 the balls of the Romans American hang in a display case in a museum of the bloody Biblical Asylum
“incident”, Wiki calls it
Posted by: Simon | Oct 7 2024 19:01 utc | 80
“incident”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
LOL
Colossal historical fact: since 1963/67 the Americans are mere spectators, and the reins of an imperial Beast, and last version of the Roman Empire, are held by the grandchildren of a medieval ethnic group forged by the rabbis and the Church of Rome: the Polish-Lithuanian Yiddish people.
Posted by: Simon | Oct 7 2024 19:07 utc | 81
“About England and its role as Europe’s hyena and the fact that it mercilessly exploits the weakness of the USA.”
Posted by: ossi | Oct 7 2024 13:24 utc | 3
You are getting close.
Yes, the British monarch does exploit the weakness of the USA but they, in turn, are controlled by the City of London Anglo/Zionists bankers and have been since 1694 when Holland King William III and Mary (Queen Mary was the daughter of James II whom was deposed)took a loan of 1.2 MM pounds from the Nobility and Jewish bankers to create the Bank of England and modern paper money (China did it in the 13th century that failed within a century); in 1757 when Sir Robert Clive defeated a part of India he pillaged imaginable sums of gold , pearls, silver, silk , precious gems and repatriated these monies to the bank of England after taking a sizable commission himself.
Since then the City of London has controlled western finances (with attempts by Napoleon and others to take away the economic Hegemony, but were not successful)-it is a supra national organization with no attachment to Sovereign identity whatsoever-only for profit, power and social control.
And they are still in control.
“Why is the German population so uninterested in the fate of NS?”
Posted by: vargas | Oct 7 2024 16:49 utc | 53
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“Why is the German populationpress so uninterested in the fate of NS?
Don’t confuse the people with the media. People in Germany who speak out are punished.”
Posted by: too scents | Oct 7 2024 17:05 utc | 57
too scents you are 100% right on!
“About 300,000 Russian Orcs have been euthanized already…USA/NATO are laughing…heheheh”
Posted by: End Vladolph Pitler | Oct 7 2024 14:36 utc | 12
Young Vladoplph Pitler-I assume he is young because he is so misguided-he won the:
Most Retarded Post of the Day (TM)
Congrats!
Once BRICS defangs the City of London, what will all of the Western-centric conspiracy theorists base their analysis upon?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 19:34 utc | 86
Wondering what the barflies think of Tom Loungo’s perspective :https://tomluongo.me/2024/10/03/the-roots-of-the-uk-implosion-and-why-war-is-inevitable/
Posted by: dp | Oct 7 2024 14:47 utc | 15
MoA’s new adopted motto?
“What I know is that I’m smart enough to realize that I don’t know enough about the things I think I know to have any opinion about that which I truly have no clue about.” – Tom Luongo’s Obligatory Bio
https://tomluongo.me/about/
Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 7 2024 19:48 utc | 87
@LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 19:34 utc
We’ll think of something. It’s what we do.
🙂
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 7 2024 19:50 utc | 88
Thought experiment.
What is the BRICS equivalent to the City of London?
What is the ancient and nefarious center of power in China, India, or Russia?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 20:05 utc | 89
Looked into how long it takes to set up an S400 system, topical since Russia has recently sent some to Iran. According to a Quora post should be good to go. Corrections welcome. And, does anyone know how many Iran now has?
https://bit.ly/3zONuyi
Unloading and Assembly:
– The S-400 system consists of multiple vehicles, including radar, command posts, and launchers. Unloading and assembling these can take between 1 to 4 hours, depending on the number of systems and personnel available.
System Calibration and Testing:
– After setup, the system must be calibrated and tested, which can take an additional 1 to 3 hours.
Posted by: dadooronron | Oct 7 2024 20:30 utc | 90
Russia Su-27 Scared F-16 Pilot Half To Death By Harshly Intercepting His Fighter Over The Baltic Sea
Some of you may recall a similar situation near Alaska recently with an SU-35, IIRC.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 20:43 utc | 91
Don’t confuse the people with the media. People in Germany who speak out are punished.”
Das stimmt so ja nicht. Als Rentner darf man in Deutschland schon seine Meinung äußern ohne damit rechnen zu müssen, seinen Job zu verlieren.
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Oct 7 2024 20:44 utc | 92
International reserves down 8.1% to USD 38.9 billion in September
As of October 1, 2024, Ukraine’s international reserves, according to preliminary data, amounted to $ 38,898. 6 million.
This is stated in the message of the NBU, according to Ukrainian News.
This dynamic is due to the NBU’s currency interventions to cover the structural currency deficit in the market and smooth exchange rate fluctuations, as well as the country’s debt payments in foreign currency.
These transactions were partially offset by proceeds from the placement of foreign currency domestic government loan bonds (foreign currency government bonds) and one of the smallest volumes of international aid received in September since the beginning of the year, after significant volumes in August.
This once again demonstrated the inherent irregularity of receiving aid from international partners this year.
In general, a number of factors determined the dynamics of international reserves in September 2024.
First, transactions of the National Bank in the foreign exchange market of Ukraine.
In accordance with the balance sheet data, the National Bank sold $ 3,213.8 million in the foreign exchange market and repurchased $ 0.6 million in reserves.
Consequently, the NBU’s net currency sales in September amounted to $ 3,213. 2 million.
Secondly, it is the receipt for the benefit of the government and payments for servicing and paying off the state debt.
The Government’s foreign currency accounts with the National Bank received $ 674.7 million.
Out of this amount:
– $603.6 million – from the placement of foreign currency government bonds;
– $60.0 million-from the World Bank;
– $11.1 million-from the Council of Europe Development Bank.
$ 552.4 million was paid for servicing and repayment of government debt in foreign currency – servicing and repayment of foreign currency government bonds;
– $52.1 million-servicing and repayment of debt to the World Bank;
– $44.0 million – payment to other international creditors.
In addition, Ukraine paid $ 729.8 million to the International Monetary Fund.
Third, revaluation of financial instruments (due to changes in market value and exchange rates).
In September, due to revaluation, the value of financial instruments increased by $ 381.8 million.
The current volume of international reserves provides financing for 5.0 months of future imports.
https://ukranews.com/news/1039548-u-veresni-mizhnarodni-rezervi-skorotilis-na-8-1-do-38-9-mlrd
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 7 2024 20:46 utc | 93
First time I’ve seen Kaspersky mentioned in this context, I suppose it’s a product with genuinely civilian applications as well.
https://t.me/lihoradka_team/301
🪖🪖🎓🎓🎓Software for protection against UAVs
Kaspersky Antidrone software synchronizes the work of all anti-drone devices and displays unified analytics in real time in a single information space. The combination of algorithms based on neural networks and artificial intelligence provides high accuracy and speed in automatic mode. Soon the company will introduce a long-range complex for detecting enemy UAVs. The software allows you to actually create a friend-or-foe system. Kaspersky, it must be said, is great in this regard. Some time ago, the Armed Forces of Ukraine received the Ani-ZALA system, a complete analogue of the Israeli UAV interception module developed in JAFA 🪽🪽 #lihoradka #ours #dron
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 7 2024 20:51 utc | 95
(Apologies for the repost below, I assumed the previous thread was the active one.)
I get the sense that the Russian Federation is feeling flush with success and will continue fighting the regime in Kiev until their Constitution is amended or a new one is written and approved. All things being equal, the RF is likely to keep advancing until NATO sees that a humiliating collapse of Ukraine’s military, government, and society, is imminent, and they request a ceasefire and peace talks.
Zelenskyy is Tattaglia; Russia knows it has to defeat Barzini, so they’ll insist on NATO being part of any deal they sign on to. No more encroachment, no more sanctions.
The Godfather Part 1 – The Meeting
https://youtu.be/2D_zITtVJGA
Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 7 2024 20:59 utc | 96
Posted by: John Marks | Oct 7 2024 20:49 utc | 98
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Singapore is a great answer. A very mysterious city.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2024 21:00 utc | 97
@ Oliver Krug | Oct 7 2024 20:44 utc | 96
i do know how to use the translate feature on the computer, but it would be nice if you spoke in the same language most are using here.. i appreciate you sharing your perspective, but i don’t know how accurate it is.. from what i understand, speaking out against what the german gov’t is supporting here – ukraine and israel – can get one in a lot of trouble, or jail time.. perhaps certain words aren’t allowed?? that is what i have read about..
Posted by: james | Oct 7 2024 21:04 utc | 99
Please, no more spaz-faced arguments about how this or that won’t lead to overall victory for Ukraine (what would?) or how it’ll “only prolong the conflict” (which is the intended effect). Russian servicemen, civilians too, are going to end up having to defend themselves from this shit, not always successfully.
https://t.me/voenacher/72706
🇺🇦On October 2, the German company Donaustahl GmbH from Bavaria handed over its Maus fpv drones and ammunition to the Kraken fighters.
At least 4 months before that, they tested their fpv and AI-based software for target acquisition at the final leg of the flight, as well as two of their own ammunition in Ukraine. At the moment, the delivery of all of the above is underway.
On July 12, permission was received for the production and delivery of this type of weapons. The first recipient, as already mentioned, is Kraken.
Germany Greenlights A New Suicide Drone ‘MAUS’ For Ukraine
A new “loitering munition” called ‘MAUS’ has been approved for Ukraine’s frontlines. It is manufactured and exported by the German arms company Donaustahl. ‘Maus’ in German means ‘mouse,’ and although mice are quiet and timid, the new system is expected to create some noise to fight Russian aggression. What is ‘MAUS’, and what can it do?
“The Federal Ministry of Economics has granted Donaustahl GmbH – under strict conditions – the license to manufacture and export the Adaptive Loitering Munition Platform (ALMP) ‘MAUS’ as well as the quick-release and ignition systems for PG7 (S) warheads for Ukraine,” Donaustahl announced on X.
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Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 7 2024 21:12 utc | 100