you would think the big collapse would be underway.
Posted by: Mbartv | Oct 6 2024 15:00 utc | 3
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Ignoring rumors from afar, how are things in your local community?

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2024 15:04 utc | 4

It does puzzle me that with all the reporting of Ukrainian weakness *** you would think the big collapse would be underway. ***
Posted by: Mbartv | Oct 6 2024 15:00 utc | 3
Power of a captured MSM to project a narrative and shape the political debate on display here.

Posted by: frithguild | Oct 6 2024 15:31 utc | 6

This is from a cold war Red Army field manual circa 1960 or so. I was looking for a reference on how they conducted encirclement battles when I came upon the “Four laws of War”
First Law: Be prepared. Prepare in peacetime for
the next war. Forces-in-being are the decisive factors.
The side with the most and best troops and equipment
at the start of war will win the war.
Second Law: The side which can best sustain a pro-
tracted war will win the war.
Third Law: The higher the political stakes of a war,
the longer and more violent it will be.
Fourth Law: War aims must be seen as just.
Modem war cannot be waged without public support.
You read these and look at what’s happening on the ground and it pretty much sums up the behavior of both sides.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 6 2024 15:39 utc | 8

Any Russian speakers care to translate this video please?
https://t.me/KvachkovV/2268

Posted by: Moonie | Oct 6 2024 15:57 utc | 10

It appears that we are ‘memory-holing’ Ukraine before the election. Even on MOA, the majority of interest is focused on the Israeli war. Ukraine has been accepted as ‘over.’ They lost, Putin won. Forget about all that. So what if a million or more Slavs died and huge cities and tiny villages were reduced to rubble. The remaining population will lack sufficient (or any?) electricity, heat, clean water, sanitary services, phone service(?), food, … during the rapidly approaching winter. Winter in Ukraine, even if relatively mild, will resemble winters in the northernmost parts of the US. You don’t even want to think about all that stuff.
Look. Over there. In the Middle East. Pretty fireworks lighting city skylines. It needs an 1812 Overture soundtrack. Big numbers of casualties. Our government is sending weapons to help the good people there, no? Look. The tracks of the missiles look like laser swords. This is a better battle scene than in Star Wars. And look at the pretty stars, twinkling in the background, and more missiles, while huge fires devour parts of the ancient city, that stretches across the horizon. What a spectacular show!
/cynicism

Posted by: Sam | Oct 6 2024 16:06 utc | 12

Posted by: Sam | Oct 6 2024 16:06 utc | 12
Whoops not Sam, Samu.

Posted by: Samu | Oct 6 2024 16:23 utc | 14

Posted by: Mbartv | Oct 6 2024 15:00 utc | 3
I recall back in early 2023 Gerasimov (either him or Shoigu) said they expected to reach their objectives by the end of 2024 barring unforseen support by NATO. I recall that they accounted for NATO support in their estimate. In other words not only Ukraine will be defeated but NATO will be out of arms to give them as well.
So obviously Russia has a plan and a timetable … they just don’t give us many details for obvious reasons.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 6 2024 16:55 utc | 16

@Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 6 2024 15:48 utc | 9
>> The Ukrainian military has lost over 21,000 troops since its incursion in Russia’s borderline Kursk Region.

Posted by: AI | Oct 6 2024 17:01 utc | 18

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 14:57 utc | 2
As many of my comments show, I am a staunch critic of the Russian conduct of the war in Ukraine, but the economic news that is now increasingly coming in from Europe may put the whole strategy in a different light…It’s not just Germany ! France, Italy, Austria, Netherlands, Scandinavia…The whirlpool that is dragging Europe downwards is gaining momentum dramatically…At this rate of downturn, there will be no more EU in 2030 – there cannot be! If that was the strategy that the Lomonosov computers spewed out in the run-up to the war, then that would be great cinema, because then Aladin would have been outplayed

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 6 2024 17:07 utc | 20

And in Odessa:
https://sputnikglobe.com/20241006/russia-hits-port-in-odessa-region-during-unloading-of-european-munitions-1120443394.html

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 6 2024 17:14 utc | 22

Edit:
Lomonossov

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 6 2024 17:18 utc | 24

“WEST”
Mar 24
British racism even against the whites and Westerners of Europe.
“WEST”
Ever wondered what word “the west” really means? Or even what “white” means for the anglosaxons? It is not Mediterranean civilisation of greece, Italy,spain or even France. it is not north western european civilisation of germany or scandinavia. In fact all these countries have been spied upon by the nations who call and self designate themselves “the west” -a nation otherwise known as 5 Eyes !- A combination of england, usa,canada ,new zealand and australia- disparate nations geographically and not even european but esssentially anglosaxon race nations. A race based concept really.West is euphemism for anglos- it does not include any of other white european nations not even the msot westerly european nation of Ireland! The word “west” is a fraud to distract from real actors behind the scene-the 5 eyes. http://rt.com/news/china-nsa-e… April 21, 2011
“Those with a sense of irony may recall that Benjamin Franklin, one of the leading figures of the Enlightenment, warned that the newly liberated colonies should be wary of allowing Germans to immigrate, because they were too swarthy; Swedes as well. Into the twentieth century, ludicrous myths of Anglo-Saxon purity were common in the U.S., including among presidents and other leading figures.” Hence comes the myth of white-where white is a code word for English and English scumbag’s derived anglosaxon race who incidentally are much more swarthy than the Irish and Germans who were declared non-whites in usa according to their vocabulary. In other words anglosaxons though in minority have been able to get hold of power only by myth of white which is to pit one against another while they really mean it for the benefit of not all white races but anglosaxon race only.
Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic union with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat – if the new union was to be a success, Britain must be kept out because according to the German diplomat it was “the continent’s ancient enemy”. Today several nations, especially Russia, would agree with that assessment. With 66,000 of its nationals on the run from justice, and a large number of them having found asylum in Britain, Russia is the most affected by Britain’s policies.
Mar 24
nato and usa”.
As early as in 1949 the first NATO Secretary General, british Lord Ismay, candidly admitted that NATO’s true goal was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”
USA does not need NATO it was created by one nation and for the benefit of one nation only to create havoc in Europe on strength of American arms but crookedness of someone else-
you hear that from the horse’s mouth of the people who created NATO and are still controlling it to wage wars on the nations it does not like -which is all of the world except evil 5.spies.
There is a confusion among many that USA uses
Nato exert her influence in Europe. In fact USA does not need nato . But that entity
is needed by a third rate country which after second world war found herself
without real power so nato was created by that country to keep Germans down and
Russians out using American arms and American
money..
Since early 90s that same country manoeuvred to keep Nato alive and
install her stooges in European commission like british spy barrasso and English witch catherine
ashton and many more inside European bureaucracy to make Europe follow one and only one policy
to be dictated by that same country.
Name of the evil country? Of course it is england.
Russia-know thy enemy !
===================
We lie, we cheat and we steal” (Mike Pompeo, former US Secretary of State and CIA director). This is the foundation of Perfidious Albion and the current USA establishment IF they are unable to compete with honor, dignity and fairness. Whatever is said about Russia today are simply lies because they LOST. It is the same for China. “Western polling” has confirmed the Chinese population have a 95% approval rating of the CPC and Xi Jinping. Western educated mouthpieces cannot grasp what is explained by this old Martin Jacques quote:
“The importance of maintaining the unity of China as a civilisation, as a state, as a civilisation-state, is the most important political imperative for Chinese politicians We [the West] believe the government’s reach should be restrained. The Chinese have a completely different view, they view [government] as the head of the family. This represents a profoundly different relationship between the state and society that we find in the West.” According to Jacques, following and believing in the state is, for the Chinese, “an expression and embodiment of Chinese civilization.”
Russians see Putin in the same way….

Posted by: Sam | Oct 6 2024 17:28 utc | 26

Regarding the slow rate of Ukrainian collapse, a lot of things are like that.
The Titanic sustained fatal damage in what? 10 seconds? Maybe 30 seconds? But if you expected it to sink beneath the waves 60 seconds thereafter, you’d be quite wrong. (The sinking was nonetheless inevitable from the start.)
I think Russia is trying to minimize its casualties, along with those of civilians on both sides. And also to teach a lengthy lesson to the West, which is that even with an extended time period to plan and react in multiple cycles, they cannot win such wars.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 6 2024 17:35 utc | 28

Some supply contracts for very critical raw materials, which the Russian Federation is dutifully fulfilling despite the sanctions, are expiring at the end of the year…Who should manage the new contracts on the part of the EU and the individual states??? Hard to imagine what that could even look like…

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 6 2024 17:49 utc | 30

Why would the RF want to crush the Kursk pocket now?
Its to their great advantage not crush the pocket, because allowing the pocket to exist is kind of like a black hole, it keeps attracting regiment s of infantry and battalions of armor to be utterly destroyed in an RF fire cauldron.
Over 21K UAF KIA’s, 40K WIA’s, 1,200 units of armor turning into junkyard scrap…….it does not get much better than that……..destroying in detail an entire UAF army.
Very smart thinking here……….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 6 2024 17:51 utc | 32

Russia’s objectives as stated from the start of the military operation are to de-militerise and denazify Ukraine and make it a neutral state.
With this in mind, gaining territory seems more a consequence than a goal. Having said that though, if a negotiated settlement is not possible, and as it seems that is the case, Russia may be inclined to create a neutral zone itself.

Posted by: Jacob | Oct 6 2024 18:05 utc | 34

Russia’s objectives as stated from the start of the military operation are to de-militerise and denazify Ukraine and make it a neutral state.
With this in mind, gaining territory seems more a consequence than a goal. Having said that though, if a negotiated settlement is not possible, and as it seems that is the case, Russia may be inclined to create a neutral zone itself.
Posted by: Jacob | Oct 6 2024 18:05 utc | 34
Russia will have to de-militarize the whole NATO + countries since they all fully support Ukraine with stuff.
How do you make a country that hates you “neutral”?
You can write it into the constitution but they will find a way to re-arm and attack you again later.
Russia would have to take all of Ukraine (and this will be very hard or not even desired or possible) and then “de-program” the minds of generations of propagandized people.
Chechen style but much much harder to do.

Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 18:27 utc | 36

All those folks “bigging up” NATO capabilities don’t understand quite how broken the NATO supply chains are. A small but ongoing example is a shortage of camouflage paint for the British Army, stemming from production difficulties in the German chemical industry, in turn related to the steep rise in energy costs.
Another factor that received next-to-no attention in the bar is the recent widespread and severe flooding across Central Europe, washing out rail and road transport links in Austria, Czechia and Poland among others. Not easy to move rail-borne tanks and armoured vehicles by rail replacement bus services, along roads already congested and suffering their own diversions because of flood breaches.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 18:21 utc | 35
Well, and still they get re supply of tanks and IFV and other military stuff.
Ukraine is loosing a LOT of tanks and armor and artillery but somehow they always get more.
I guess that the “civilians” in EU / NATO will be left to die or suffer from whatever problems exist but NATO / US military will find a way to move all those tanks across RU to Ukraine.
Besides ISR satellites and starlink does not suffer from “floods”.
And BTW Russia is NOT going to let the civilians from Ukraine without energy or infrastructure this winter behind the front lines. They will not starve and will not freeze. They will have sanitation, hospitals and clean water to drink.
This is NOT the Russian way of war to attack civilians.

Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 18:37 utc | 38

Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 18:37 utc | 38

Well, and still they get re supply of tanks and IFV and other military stuff.
Ukraine is loosing a LOT of tanks and armor and artillery but somehow they always get more.

Are the replacements on a one-to-one basis? If not, then attrition is inevitable.

Besides ISR satellites and starlink does not suffer from “floods”.

Neither are they transport corridors. It‘s all very well having the intel/reconnaissance, having the kit to act upon it is entirely a different matter.

And BTW Russia is NOT going to let the civilians from Ukraine without energy or infrastructure this winter behind the front lines. They will not starve and will not freeze. They will have sanitation, hospitals and clean water to drink.

True enough for citizens in those areas Russia controls; can’t say the same for the population still living under the corrupt Kiev junta.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 18:49 utc | 40

I think Russia is trying to minimize its casualties, along with those of civilians on both sides.
Posted by: Boris Badenov | Oct 6 2024 17:35 utc | 28

Ah, yes, the “minimizing casualties” canard again.
Sure minimizing casualties is the objective here. Which is best achieved through frontal assaults against the most fortified sections of the front (instead of flanking the Donbass through Sumy and Kharkov) while not doing absolutely anything to isolate the battlefield and allowing the enemy completely uninterrupted supply of everything.
If the objective was minimizing casualties, the war would have been over a long time ago. Russia could have recovered the whole of Ukraine with 10,000 casualties and in three to six months had the political leadership taken certain obvious to everyone organizational and military-technical steps that still have not been taken to this day.
Why was that not done?
Because the interests of the following groups:
1) Russian oligarchs
2) Ukrainian oligarchs
3) Western oligarchs (yes, those too)
Are more dear to the Kremlin’s heart than the life and limbs of regular Russian grunts. And those interests would be severely threatened by the organization and military-technical measures that must be taken. So the slog continues, indefinitely…

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 18:55 utc | 42

And BTW Russia is NOT going to let the civilians from Ukraine without energy or infrastructure this winter behind the front lines. They will not starve and will not freeze. They will have sanitation, hospitals and clean water to drink.
This is NOT the Russian way of war to attack civilians.
Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 18:37 utc | 38

Well, yeah, but then what was the point of spending more than a billion dollars on destroying power plants (that you will then have to spend further billions on rebuilding) if there was never any real intention of pushing the grid over the edge, which would be the only thing that would make a difference with respect to the conduct of the war. As it is, thousands of cruise missiles were spent on hitting such targets with absolutely no effect on the war aside from the attrition of Ukrainian air defense.
But the latter could have been done just as well by hitting other targets.
They could have been sending one missile at every border crossing with Poland Romania every 3-4 days instead, and it would have depleted air defense all the same while taking out those roads for a few days each time and thus actually disrupting the flow of weapons at least a bit. Of course those targets should have received tactical nukes to solve the problem decisively and semi-permanently, and to also send a clear message, but assuming nukes are off-limits, then the next best thing was to hit them regularly conventionally. This would have been a much better use of those missiles that hitting the grid but not taking it out and destroying your own former and future infrastructure.
NATO isn’t even using its own missiles to destroy legacy Soviet infrastructure that will presumably one day be in Russian hands again, the Kremlin is doing it for them instead. How f****d up is that…

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:03 utc | 44

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 18:55 utc | 43
Ah, the Daily Telegraph intern is back, LARP-ing as someone with a unique level of insight and understanding that is way beyond us mere mortals.
The God-Like Genius Of Shadowbanned has descended from on high this Sunday evening, delivering a solemn sermon (with none of the levity and bon-mots of @DunGroanin!).
***NEWSFLASH***
You’re backing the losing side, pal; get used to it.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 19:05 utc | 46

Sam | Oct 6 2024 16:06 utc | 12
I don’t think people are abandoning these threads for Palestine threads, but not so much is happening on “our” fronts atm compared with the big new moves (like Israel v Iran) happening in that theatre.
To some extent these two fronts will impact on each other, in that Iran may not have so much to give to Russia right now, while Russia is (I think) giving Iran air defences that would doubtless be useful on the Ukraine front. OTOH if the US is throwing hardware at Israel, hopefully that’s less for Ukraine.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2024 19:07 utc | 48

” Russia’s objectives as stated from the start of the military operation are to de-militerise and denazify Ukraine and make it a neutral state.
Posted by: Jacob | Oct 6 2024 18:05 utc | 34 ”
In your opinion what realistic steps does Russia need to take to achieve the above goals?

Posted by: Moonie | Oct 6 2024 19:08 utc | 50

And a litle something for the Kernel Comedian, who has also graced us with an appearance from on high:

It turned out interesting. “Unikums” from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine loaded secret documents and maps into bots Chat GPT so that the neural network will tell them how to defeat Russia. Dozens of secret documents have been leaked to the public.

https://voenhronika.ru/

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 19:12 utc | 52

Some very stupid people still think that nothing changed in the relationships between Russia and the west.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2024 19:13 utc | 54

Imagine an alternate universe where the Russian Federation was in a non-nuclear armed conflict with NATO forces, and you were the head of American and all NATO forces. Suppose then that the RF landed tens of thousands of infantry along with artillery, armored vehicles, and everything else, into a remote part of Alaska, capturing small settlements and overrunning local forces.
Would you transfer what was needed to wipe them out from the front lines in Europe, or would you methodically take apart the invaders with missiles and drones? Needless to say, the logistic demands of transferring forces from Europe to a remote part of Alaska would be considerable.
Please indulge me as I use this post as an opportunity to again share a link to a SF alternate history novel from the 1950s. A great read imo, though as you might expect in a novel written by an American veteran of WWII about a war between the USA and Russia/China, Russia is the bad guy, lol.
The author is C.M. Kornbluth, a writer who died quite young, in his prime, but whose career was fascinating.
https://en.m.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_This_August
Links to read the novel here: https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20110709

Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 6 2024 19:22 utc | 56

That “1917” person reminds me of someone who used to be a plague in here.
That feeling of having to chew on a wet woollen mitten.
Unbearable.

Posted by: Avtonom | Oct 6 2024 19:27 utc | 58

The objective of the SMO and the end of hostilities (from a russian perspective) is quite simple: when the Russian forces have secured the borders of Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaparozhia and Kherson, the job will be deemed as done.
At this point Pres Putin will announce an end to the SMO in its present state. It will then become a defensive operation on the borders of the new Russia and the new Ukraine.
How the west handles this is up to them. But the proverbial ball will be firmly in their court.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 6 2024 19:28 utc | 60

На международном уровне такие разумные государства как Китай, Индия или даже Венгрия, одобрят это. И это будет самым эффективным оружием против украинского режима и западных военных подстрекателей. Ведь одно они точно не переживут – конец войны и последующий вопрос, зачем всё это было нужно.
Posted by: RationalPeacekeeper | Oct 6 2024 18:51 utc | 41
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May I suggest you turn on the translator prior to posting. That saves every single bar fly the effort, assuming that what you are posting has some relevance.
I’ll wait.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 6 2024 19:34 utc | 62

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 6 2024 19:34 utc | 63
I already ran it through a translator, safe to say you aren’t missing anything; it’s doom porn straight out of the shadowbanned/1917/Ed4/Julian/Moonie troll cubicles.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 19:40 utc | 64

” You could make up your own translation and then tell the bar what it believes. No need for the drama of pretend integrity.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2024 17:01 utc | 17 ”
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Why so mean ? I dont speak Russia and would like to have whats purported to be in the video verified. Be nice.
Posted by: Moonie | Oct 6 2024 19:13 utc | 54
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Why be so naive? For real. There are translators on the Web. The helping hand is at the end of your arm, my Greek mother-in-law used to say. Go, Moonie, go!

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 6 2024 19:43 utc | 66

And BTW Russia is NOT going to let the civilians from Ukraine without energy or infrastructure this winter behind the front lines. They will not starve and will not freeze. They will have sanitation, hospitals and clean water to drink.
This is NOT the Russian way of war to attack civilians.
Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 18:37 utc | 38
Well, yeah, but then what was the point of spending more than a billion dollars on destroying power plants (that you will then have to spend further billions on rebuilding) if there was never any real intention of pushing the grid over the edge, which would be the only thing that would make a difference with respect to the conduct of the war. As it is, thousands of cruise missiles were spent on hitting such targets with absolutely no effect on the war aside from the attrition of Ukrainian air defense.
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Well, We will have to ask Russian military command about that purpose. I am sure it was well thought.
My opinion is that it was used to destroy only energy generation near the front line to make problems for repair factories for military equipment. It is rather complicated to run a metal works factory on diesel generators.
Then I suspect that the Russian cruise missiles and Iskanders are NOT that costly. Surely much cheaper than the US/NATO counterpart (if they exist at all) And they did not used 1000 of them for this purpose only, more like low hundreds of them
Then it will be a boost for the Russian economy to rebuild new Energy infrastructure in Ukraine… Mariupol style 😉
True there was never an intention to push the grid over the edge.
I do not expect to be a lot of air defense near energy generation plants in Ukraine.
Any missile launch at any target will have to be intercepted anyway.
any damage to the economy has an effect to the war even if not “over the edge”
Any war is also an economic and logistical issue.
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But the latter could have been done just as well by hitting other targets.
They could have been sending one missile at every border crossing with Poland Romania every 3-4 days instead, and it would have depleted air defense all the same while taking out those roads for a few days each time and thus actually disrupting the flow of weapons at least a bit. Of course those targets should have received tactical nukes to solve the problem decisively and semi-permanently, and to also send a clear message, but assuming nukes are off-limits, then the next best thing was to hit them regularly conventionally. This would have been a much better use of those missiles that hitting the grid but not taking it out and destroying your own former and future infrastructure.
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But Russia DOES hit near Romanian Danube ports in Odessa region quite often.
But my guess is that the hit ONLY when they have good intel about military transports. They can also follow them and hit them later and much closer to the front line with faster fly times.
Long range hits to Romania an Poland borders have a risk of a false flag and are relatively easier to defend against since longer distance allows NATO ISR to give better coordinates to Ukriane AD
I have noticed they use mostly cheap Geran 2 drones for this and also launch missiles from subs in Black Sea for a shorter fly path.
For Poland border no such shorter fly path exist since they do NOT launch from Belarus.
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NATO isn’t even using its own missiles to destroy legacy Soviet infrastructure that will presumably one day be in Russian hands again, the Kremlin is doing it for them instead. How f****d up is that…
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Well why would NATO destroy Ukraine more than it has already done with this war?
NATO still needs Ukraine to fight so why would they attack it in a direct way?
Russia might not want or not be capable to take all of Ukraine hence the infrastructure might remain for “neutral” Ukraine to use or be “rebuild” with good contracts…
Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:03 utc | 45

Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 19:46 utc | 68

Imagine an alternate universe where the Russian Federation was in a non-nuclear armed conflict with NATO forces, and you were the head of American and all NATO forces. Suppose then that the RF landed tens of thousands of infantry along with artillery, armored vehicles, and everything else, into a remote part of Alaska, capturing small settlements and overrunning local forces.
Would you transfer what was needed to wipe them out from the front lines in Europe, or would you methodically take apart the invaders with missiles and drones? Needless to say, the logistic demands of transferring forces from Europe to a remote part of Alaska would be considerable.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 6 2024 19:22 utc | 57

The analogy breaks up completely because Kursk is not remote Alaska, it is right in the Russian core region, and as conveniently close to logistics as possible. Also, right at the front line of an active war for a third year now.
Worse, Russia was supposed to be amassing forces for a Sumy offensive, but clearly that was a myth, because those forces were nowhere to be found when NATO just waltzed in unopposed…

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:48 utc | 70

Kinda funny how Russian elites live in Northern America and Western Europe. Wouldn’t Moscow and Saint Petersburg be comfortable for them ?

Posted by: Miserable Elf | Oct 6 2024 19:54 utc | 72

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:48 utc | 71
You should give upreading eejits like Rural Girlstalker and Riley Wigwamgamma…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 19:55 utc | 74

A reference to the February & October Revolutions, I suppose.
The implication are that Russia is doomed to suffer political implosion and civil war, due to “failures” in the SMO. Which in fact would be the only vague hope of Ukraine/NATO victory.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 6 2024 19:08 utc | 50

Best scenario right now is for the General Staff to take actual power and have Putin as a puppet to maintain appearances. The problem is there are powerful forces pushing in the other direction and it’s not clear they would be able to do it.
But Avakyants’ article last month was a very important moment — it was the first time someone still so close to the General Staff came out with a devastating critique of the SMO in public.
The next best scenario is a military coup but that is super risky. It will have to be properly done and with a bulletproof plan for immediate succession. Because the last time in 1991 when there was an attempt to throw the traitors out of the Kremlin it was not properly done and there was no clear plan for subsequent action, and the result was that the country fell apart. You can bet the West is salivating at the possibility of a repeat of that situation.
But at some point those risks will be outweighed by the negatives of staying on the current course, and someone will have to find the courage to act, because the alternatives will be certain end of Russia or rolling the dice on trying to save it with a coup.
So yeah, 1917 is highly relevant.
But right now it is a much worse situation because, first, you don’t have the well organized Bolsheviks that the military can place its bets on for reorganizing the country, and second, back then the West invaded, but the vastness of Russian geography did its thing and they didn’t get far. They have planes and missiles now though, it’s a very different world…
P.S. This is from last month, a soldier on the front lines:
https://x.com/mila__alien/status/1833208049936236840
He is far from alone in sharing these sentiments. Which are steadily growing inside Russia.

Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 20:05 utc | 76

I already ran it through a translator, safe to say you aren’t missing anything; it’s doom porn straight out of the shadowbanned/1917/Ed4/Julian/Moonie troll cubicles.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 19:40 utc | 65
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Thank you for your efforts, MGM (My Good Man), but that is not what I was aiming for.
I want the ‘ijuts’ to suffer. Embarrassing them seems to be of limited effect. You were interfering, bless you and all of your comments all the same.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Oct 6 2024 20:08 utc | 78

Honzo | Oct 6 2024 15:58 utc | 11
The many new names – part of the comedians new ‘victory’ plan?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-zelenskiy-present-victory-plan-ramstein-meeting-2024-10-05/
I guess plan b for the US/Nato is if you cant win a real war, use a bot army to win in social media. Bots are no doubt cheaper to produce and run than real weapons….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2024 20:10 utc | 80

1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:45 utc | 68
Sb, we’ve heard it all before, though I think six months ago Putin was a traitor if he didn’t nuke the border regions.
The longer this all goes on without WW3, the weaker the West gets, European manufacturing goes down the tubes, Far Eastern manufacturing prospers, Russia becomes more self reliant. As a European I find this sad, but it’s what every EU government bar Slovakia and Hungary seem to want.
The US also gets weaker, and this would be sad were US elites actually invested in the welfare of Americans. But they’re not.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 6 2024 20:16 utc | 82

it is right in the Russian core region, and as conveniently close to logistics as possible.
“logistics’ to what? Where they invaded is between nothing and nothing. Granted the P200 highway is a nice road but it basically terminates at Sudzha, which the Ukrainians hold so they’ve cut communications between a a town they hold and the rest of Russia.
Worse, Russia was supposed to be amassing forces for a Sumy offensive but clearly that was a myth, because those forces were nowhere to be found when NATO just waltzed in unopposed…
That’s what’s commonly called a “pin”. You station a force in Bryansk, or better yet bring in some inflatable tanks and create a little radio traffic, you leak you’re about to invade kharkov or Sumy and the Ukrainians have to keep a force in the region just in case it happens. that’s how you keep 10’s of thousands of troops out of a battle without losing a man.
Posted by: 1917 | Oct 6 2024 19:48 utc | 71

Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 6 2024 20:23 utc | 84

https://johnhelmer.net/the-war-came-to-pokrovsk/#more-90387

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 6 2024 20:25 utc | 86

I didn’t know that it was possible to post outright lies here without being banned.
Too bad.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2024 20:25 utc | 88

“The narrative from the West is that the French, Germans, and British expect to plan Ukraine’s future. Clueless. The future of Ukraine will 100% be decided by the Russians.”
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That is true, as true as the Kremlin has preferred to sacrifice thousands and thousands of Russians rather than disturb the masters of the West and their private hunting ground in the Levant
The Kremlin did nothing even when a Russian plane was shot down because of it. What is more, Vladimir Vladimirovich renewed the permit for the regular bombings in Syria
For the Kremlin, the life of a Russian is worth nothing compared to the sacred whims, manias and delusions of the masters of the West
If the Russian foreign minister were not a classist idiot but a lucid man, and if he were a true patriot, he would have said to Antony: – Look, Antony, if you disturb me in Ukraine, I will disturb you in “our (your) colonial project”
But it seemed more convenient to the Kremlin to sacrifice thousands and thousands of Russian serfs

Posted by: Simon | Oct 6 2024 20:33 utc | 90

As long as you can still print US$ and buy food and raw materials and pay workers to do work for you with them there is still “life” and resources available for the Empire.

Posted by: bog | Oct 6 2024 20:25 utc | 88
Which works, until the countries with the resources and raw materials say “No, we no longer accept your dollars/pounds/euros. If you wish to buy from us you have three choices: pay us in our currency; pay us in gold/silver bullion; or go without.”
When the enforcement of the dollar/pound/euro complex is provided by a Carrier Battle Group in every ocean and a plethora of military bases, it works, until ultra-fast and ultra-accurate long-range missiles are acquired by the resource-holding nations.
Then what?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 6 2024 20:40 utc | 92

Iskander destroys container ship with Ukrainian Armed Forces ammunition in Odessa region
Russian Defense Ministry shows footage of attack on weapons ship near Odessa. Russian military personnel eliminated a container ship with ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the port of Yuzhny in Odessa Oblast using the Iskander-M missile system. The corresponding footage was published by the Russian Defense Ministry on October 6.
“The Iskander-M missile system of the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile strike on the unloading site of a container ship with ammunition in the Yuzhny port in the village of Noviye Belyary in the Odessa region,” the department said in a statement.
It is noted that the strike was carried out during unloading, which is why the footage shows the detonation of ammunition that was delivered from Europe.
Earlier that day, it was reported that drone operators from the Sever group destroyed combat drones of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kharkiv region.
iz.ru/1770303/2024-10-06/vs-rf-unichtozhili-iskanderom-sudno-s-boepripasami-vsu-v-portu-odesskoi-oblasti

Posted by: guest | Oct 6 2024 20:47 utc | 94

“was there ever any doubt about Ukraine’s fate? Israelis are moving en mass to Ukraine”
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WTF
These pictures are from an annual pilgrimage, held every year, to the grave of a rabbi
The Polish-Ukrainian Yiddish people forged by the rabbis (over time and with the help of the Church of Rome) come from Poland-Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus

Posted by: Simon | Oct 6 2024 21:00 utc | 96

@1917 68
You are so right.
Putin is a poser coward with no connection with reality .while his Anglo enemies say “all options are on the table, Putin says all vague retribution but nothing concrete on the table.his red lines are a joke
No guts. Russia chickening out.
Lavrov and Putin putting pressure on Assad in order to please Americans.president Putin says that in Syria mission accomplished!
http://tass.com/defense/895323
22/8/2016
No mission is NOT complete. Russia like in february 2016, is fleeing again just because americans objected to russian using Hamadan air field while russia had no guts to tell americans not to use Syrian air space uninvited. That is the difference-russia has no mental guts.

Posted by: Sam | Oct 6 2024 21:24 utc | 98

@1917 68
Quote “Best scenario right now is for the General Staff to take actual power and have Putin as a puppet to maintain appearances. ”
Coup is speciality of staunch anti electoral democracy of Anglo-Saxon 5 evil eyes.
Russia certainly is NOT winning. Russia is a joke now, aways retreating. British bombs Russia with impunity and instead of killing English plotters, Russia bombs Odessa where most of population is Russian!
Russia prefers to kill slavs than the English pirate race which need to be annihilated for sake of human race.
Russia instead of waving proper war, allows herself to be distracted by grain deal – just to please Anglos. Putin is an unfit person for Presidency. Since 2013 when he should have asserted and armed Syria, he has been actively engaged in pleasing the Anglos evil 5 eyes.
The Western elites don’t really care if Ukraine ‘wins,’ they only want to bleed Russia. If Ukraine is left a shattered husk, the western elites will simply move on to other fronts to attack Russia. Maybe blockading Kalingrad, maybe more ‘color revolutions’ in the ‘Stans, etc.etc. Ukraine may be just the opening act in a much longer war.
Think about this. Both in Malvinas war of 1982 and in gulf war of 1991, British first and Americans later on, imposed 200 miles embargo no ship and no fly zone just like that so much so that even Russian foreign minister was prohibited to negotiate with Iraq for peaceful resolution by no fly zone.
Russia has had no guts to impose no fly zone even in Black Sea which Russia has a right to do especially after her prime costly assets like Moscow, or gas pipe line of kerch bridge were bombed by English cowards who jump only because england is a concubine of USA

Posted by: Sam | Oct 6 2024 21:30 utc | 100