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October 3, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-235
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Ukraine just launched 2 missiles at the Kursk power plant. Seem to have fallen short. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 3 2024 14:49 utc | 1
https://tass.com/economy/1851723 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 3 2024 15:12 utc | 2
https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2024/10/3/7477878/ (via Translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 3 2024 15:23 utc | 3 Larsbo: Kannen Sie Bitte übersetzen Seine wortenwerk aus Englisch. Meine Deutsch Verständnis nich zo klar ist. Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 3 2024 15:25 utc | 4 Head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service Naryshkin visited Baku on October 2-3 and met with Aliyev Posted by: guest | Oct 3 2024 15:32 utc | 5 How the fine
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 3 2024 15:36 utc | 6 I’m not totally convinced, Pepe is trigger happy when it comes to getting news out, you would think that even in ClownWorld military planning would be done by the military, but if ClownWorld had limits it would be no fun, and what is ClownWorld without fun?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 3 2024 15:41 utc | 7 Недалеко от Курской АЭС средства РЭБ подавили беспилотник. В результате падения повреждены хозяйственные постройки не связанные с станцией. Posted by: guest | Oct 3 2024 15:52 utc | 8
https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12531595@egNews#txt Posted by: Lantern Dude | Oct 3 2024 16:08 utc | 9 03.10.2024 (12:40) Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 3 2024 16:16 utc | 10 UGLEDAR LIBERATED Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 3 2024 16:17 utc | 11 Moscow human rights activists will send a letter to the UN… Posted by: Call it what u will | Oct 3 2024 16:17 utc | 12 03.10.2024 (13:45) Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 3 2024 16:17 utc | 13
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/125111 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 3 2024 16:37 utc | 14 Not current events but interesting information and a useful channel.
Posted by: anon2020 | Oct 3 2024 16:42 utc | 15 Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 3 2024 16:17 utc | 12 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 3 2024 16:57 utc | 16 Norwegian@1637 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 3 2024 17:22 utc | 17 @ Norwegian, §15: Posted by: John Marks | Oct 3 2024 17:35 utc | 18 @ Norwegian | Oct 3 2024 16:37 utc | 15 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 3 2024 17:48 utc | 19 @ aristodemos | Oct 3 2024 15:25 utc | 5 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 3 2024 17:51 utc | 20 “the torture of a captured Russian fighter, are trying to persuade his mother Valentina Ivanchenko, ” Posted by: kupkee | Oct 3 2024 17:54 utc | 21 John Marks | Oct 3 2024 17:35 utc | 19 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 3 2024 17:55 utc | 22 Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 3 2024 15:12 utc | 3 Posted by: Preki | Oct 3 2024 17:59 utc | 23 An important milestone for the RF. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 3 2024 18:20 utc | 24 Nato too jittery – to defend Ukrainian airspace. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 3 2024 18:24 utc | 25
They did indeed. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 18:55 utc | 26 Seems, time has come for our man in Ukraine, one Mr. Z to be scripaled by his best friendos from MI6. At least that’s what Pool #3 is insinuating:
Posted by: Boo | Oct 3 2024 18:57 utc | 27 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 3 2024 18:24 utc | 26 Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 3 2024 19:01 utc | 28
It’s highly doubtful that the new “Ukrainian” missiles are actually produced at Yuzhmash. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 19:03 utc | 29 Haven’t watched it yet but saw a YT title with Mercouris that Putin ignored Scholz call, few days back he let Netanyahu’s call ring and ring. Putin’s feeling cocky. Finally doing what I thought Russia should have done from day one, go dark, dark and scary. Guess they felt they needed to win some good sentiments, hearts and minds, in the RoW first. They must feel they gained that now and have the wind to their backs in Ukraine. Not picking up the phone is a good power play at this point in time. Soon all the bastards will have trembling hands. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 3 2024 19:06 utc | 30
Delusional nonsense. Mercouris is a grifter who is in the business of hyping up every little insignificant thing that happens in order to keep people listening and thus the YT ad revenue going strong. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 19:13 utc | 31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcUU7yBxlqk Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 3 2024 19:16 utc | 32 posted by: Preki | Oct 3 2024 17:59 utc | 24 Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 3 2024 19:18 utc | 33 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 18:55 utc | 27 Posted by: Milites | Oct 3 2024 19:31 utc | 34 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 19:13 utc | 32 Posted by: Boo | Oct 3 2024 19:31 utc | 35 Apparently, there was a monumental historical meeting in Budapest called BEST – The Budapest Energy and Security Talks – where the future split of Russia was discussed 😁… Lots of delusional idiots in the West… (Text can be translated in Russian) Posted by: Boo | Oct 3 2024 19:40 utc | 36 Dima says, during the next meeting in Ramstein, Ukraine will get green light to use long range missiles deeply into Russia. Posted by: vargas | Oct 3 2024 19:50 utc | 37 Posted by: 1917 | Oct 3 2024 19:13 utc | 32 Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 3 2024 19:56 utc | 38 The pseudo pro-Russian escalation bros and doomers are dooming and crying for escalation. Nothing new in the West. Posted by: Roland | Oct 3 2024 20:02 utc | 40 Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 3 2024 19:56 utc | 39 Posted by: Boo | Oct 3 2024 20:06 utc | 41 Posted by: Boo | Oct 3 2024 19:40 utc | 37 Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 3 2024 20:10 utc | 42 RUAF has cut the road between Kurakhove and Kurakhovivka, by controlling the eastern shore of Kurakhovivka water reservoir. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 3 2024 20:13 utc | 43
The fact that former ambassadors to Russia plan invasions to the point of risking a nuclear war shows that Russia should be shutting down the US Embassy in Russia and also kicking out all US diplomats/spies/warmongers. Posted by: MiniMO | Oct 3 2024 20:21 utc | 44 AFU forces are heavily bombed and in trouble in the Sudzha-Malaya Loknya – Martynovka triangle. Also in the north, around Koronevo. Obuhovka-Veseloye contested. Posted by: unimperator | Oct 3 2024 20:22 utc | 45 Close ally of Dutch PM Mark Rutte was forced to resign in 2018 for lying about Putin. Zijlstra falsely claimed he heard Putin in 2006 say he wanted to “create a “Great Russia” that would include Belarus, Ukraine, the Baltic countries and possibly Kazakhstan.” PM Rutte defended his ally saying “the content of the story is “not up for discussion.”” Posted by: susan mullen | Oct 3 2024 20:25 utc | 46 I remember when Artemovsk was liberated that they found civilians there and I was amazed, I’m even more amazed now. If Artemovsk looked figuratively like the surface of the moon Ugledar looks literally like the surface of the moon, it’s reduced to grey dust, the only color you see anywhere is a Russian flag or red banner on top of a building. I feel sad for these old people, but actually they are made of sterner stuff than me, these are some tough old ladies: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 3 2024 20:32 utc | 47 Propagandists are back to putting no effort at all. The cycle of nature continues. Posted by: boneless | Oct 3 2024 20:46 utc | 48 This is far and away the best channel documenting the SMO, though it’s in Italian. I think this title is universal and in no need of translation: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 3 2024 20:49 utc | 49
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/30089 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 3 2024 20:50 utc | 50 So why did Washington send Javelins, Himars, ATACMs, Abrams tanks, F16s etc. etc. ? Posted by: frithguild | Oct 3 2024 21:03 utc | 51 @ frithguild | Oct 3 2024 21:03 utc | 52 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 3 2024 21:09 utc | 52
https://x.com/LogKa11/status/1841948865253068975 Posted by: unimperator | Oct 3 2024 21:16 utc | 53 https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/ Posted by: Milites | Oct 3 2024 22:04 utc | 54 Posted by: vargas | Oct 3 2024 19:50 utc | 38 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 3 2024 22:14 utc | 55 @Milites | Thu, 03 Oct 2024 22:04:00 GMT | 55
McFaul’s area of expertise is color revolutions, which is a pretext for invasion. He’s admitted as much, written books on the subject, and even his doctoral dissertation was on: “Southern African liberation and great power intervention: towards a theory of revolution in an international context.” Posted by: James M. | Oct 3 2024 22:27 utc | 56 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 3 2024 15:12 utc | 2 Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 3 2024 22:35 utc | 57 Report from the “Russian Terminators” at Ugledar front mocking the Germans Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 3 2024 22:36 utc | 58 Posted by: James M. | Oct 3 2024 22:27 utc | 57 Posted by: Milites | Oct 3 2024 22:49 utc | 59 I sense the end-game narrative is being crafted, and these public roll-outs are designed to test which ‘excuse for failure’ is the least damaging to those who planned this shambolic enterprise. Posted by: HERMIUS | Oct 3 2024 23:04 utc | 60 In German…But not bad. Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 3 2024 23:44 utc | 61 If this Medinsky story is true…I don’t know if Putin would survive that…Politically and physically. Posted by: Suresh | Oct 3 2024 23:59 utc | 62 Deep State Map came out of his funk and posted an update. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 3 2024 23:59 utc | 63 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQhbvcyEww Posted by: Tichy | Oct 4 2024 1:03 utc | 64 Below is a link to a Kucinich piece barflies might find worthy Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 4 2024 1:36 utc | 65 Kursk is quiet as a tomb. It’s a lot of sniping and droning hitting ukrainian forces, and they just keep dropping little pierces of territory. Russia seems content to kill every enemy soldier they can. In fact they prioritize it before territory. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Oct 4 2024 2:21 utc | 66 ‘A lawsuit has been filed against former NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in Belgium. Posted by: Jim H | Oct 4 2024 2:24 utc | 67 Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 3 2024 23:59 utc | 64 Posted by: Boo | Oct 4 2024 3:07 utc | 68 I was just reading this evening that Russia may create buffer republics in Karkov, Poltava, and perhaps one more because the Russians no longer feel that Ukrainian territory, even if there are ethnic Russians in it are compatible with the governance norms of the Russian state. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 4 2024 3:17 utc | 69 >Posted by: 1917 aka shadowbanned | Oct 3 2024 19:13 utc | 32 Posted by: anonposter | Oct 4 2024 4:15 utc | 70 @Milites | Thu, 03 Oct 2024 22:49:00 GMT | 60
Well of course, and they always double-down. Nah, our strategy isn’t flawed, we just need to push more of it. This is why McFaul, or McFoul as I like to call him, is wrong, and the blueprint led to disaster. They have their blind spots, and they can’t see past them.
Undoubtedly. It probably won’t even be close. Call it what you will, but don’t call it a Trump presidency. Oh, he and his supporters will cry foul, say the election was stolen by the evil Democrats. Because that’s the only way the great and wonderful Trump could ever lose at anything. Posted by: James M. | Oct 4 2024 4:52 utc | 71 Malenkov@1751 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 4 2024 4:54 utc | 72 German as Lingua Franca, that boat has sailed and will never return, although apparently one vote more was all it took in the US to settle on English rather than German as official language. One that I have memory holed with no reference. Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 4 2024 5:26 utc | 73 @g wiltek | Fri, 04 Oct 2024 05:26:00 GMT | 74 Posted by: James M. | Oct 4 2024 5:34 utc | 74 German as Lingua Franca, that boat has sailed and will never return, although apparently one vote more was all it took in the US to settle on English rather than German as official language. One that I have memory holed with no reference. Posted by: Moscow Exile | Oct 4 2024 5:46 utc | 75
Posted by: Down South | Oct 4 2024 6:25 utc | 76
Whether the Medinsky story is true or not, the overall Russian posture is quite clear, and it is not one of a country preparing to win the war.
If you actually knew enough about the history and current state of Russia, it would not have taken you too many videos and articles by Doctorow to understand that he doesn’t have any inside sources, he doesn’t know anything about military-technical issues, geostrategic considerations often evade him too, and, worst of all, the simple concept that countries are run in the interests of their elites, not in the interests of the country as a whole, is clearly completely beyond his capacity to comprehend. Thus an informative and reliable source he really isn’t. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 6:28 utc | 77
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21088 Posted by: Down South | Oct 4 2024 6:29 utc | 78 Posted by: James M. | Oct 4 2024 5:34 utc | 75 Posted by: Modern Stoic | Oct 4 2024 6:34 utc | 79 So yeah, Minsk-3/Istanbul-2 is what Russian elites want. Not Operation Bagration V.2. Never mind that the West has an Operation Barbarossa V.2 and then a Generalplan Ost V.2 in mind… Posted by: Suresh | Oct 4 2024 6:34 utc | 80
Should have been done on Day 1. Also, all NATO country embassies in Kiev should have been destroyed with missiles and then any Western representatives on the territory mercilessly hunted down with kinetic strikes. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 6:37 utc | 81 >> The above disagrees with you. On the Federal level, yes the US has no official language but if you can’t speak English you can’t become a citizen of the US so your objection is more semantics than substance. Posted by: ivanislav | Oct 4 2024 6:38 utc | 82
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/18190 Posted by: Down South | Oct 4 2024 6:38 utc | 83
Posted by: too scents | Oct 4 2024 6:44 utc | 84
This is false. The first thing that you do in a war is decapitate the leadership of the adversary if it is doable. The Israelis did this with Nasrallah which from a military POV is the right thing to do. Posted by: Modern Stoic | Oct 4 2024 6:44 utc | 85 @Modern Stoic | Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:34:00 GMT | 80 Posted by: James M. | Oct 4 2024 6:54 utc | 86 @too scents | Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:44:00 GMT | 85
Yeah, sure they will. There’s no such thing as NATO military specialists, so which member states’ militaries will they be drawn from? Posted by: James M. | Oct 4 2024 6:56 utc | 87 This is false. The first thing that you do in a war is decapitate the leadership of the adversary if it is doable. The Israelis did this with Nasrallah which from a military POV is the right thing to do. Posted by: jpc | Oct 4 2024 7:06 utc | 88 Posted by: too scents | Oct 4 2024 6:44 utc | 85 Posted by: Urban Fox | Oct 4 2024 7:07 utc | 89 @ 1917 Posted by: boneless | Oct 4 2024 7:18 utc | 90
Yes, they do — Zelensky is a representative of various Ukrainian oligarchic factions and the Kremlin plans to make a deal with those through the Russian oligarchs to kick the can down the road. Which will preserve “normalcy” in Russia for a few more years, but will also allow Ukraine to be further Banderized and for NATO to better prepare for the next war (Russia currently has certain technological advatnages, but that window will close soon). Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 7:37 utc | 91 With Zelenskyy, Russia gets a politician who sees troops as the wheels that carry the Ukrainian army to positions that trigger massive windfalls of cash coming into Kiev. If he’d been replaced with a General who’d decided to play the long game, and dug in while coordinating with NATO for them to take a decade to produce massive amounts of artillery, shells, missiles, and air defenses, that would present a challenge for the Russian Federation. It would have been an extra painful grind leveling the defenses of the AFU as they stayed entrenched with all their equipment tucked away when not in use. Posted by: Babel-17 | Oct 4 2024 7:37 utc | 92 Third year of the war, and the AFU can still do this:
Scartch that, the AFU cannot “still” do this, because in fact it had no such capability in 2022. Now it does. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 7:51 utc | 93 More remarkable Putinism successes — Storm Shadows on central Russia in a few minutes:
1) We have been hearing how all the Su-24s have been destroyed for how long now? Well, clearly they weren’t. Because, of course, they are not in Ukraine and nobody had the balls to do what had to be done. Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 7:58 utc | 94 No info on those aleggedly su25 in Ukraine and Russian channels. Posted by: Mario | Oct 4 2024 8:02 utc | 95 https://t.me/treugolniklpr/62385
Posted by: 1917 | Oct 4 2024 8:26 utc | 96 Posted by: boneless | Oct 4 2024 7:18 utc | 91; re@ 1917 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 4 2024 8:32 utc | 97
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21096
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/21097 Posted by: Down South | Oct 4 2024 8:37 utc | 98 Hi Shadow. Posted by: puppet | Oct 4 2024 8:54 utc | 99 Hi Shadow. Posted by: puppet | Oct 4 2024 8:56 utc | 100 |
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