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October 20, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-250

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

Iran:

North Korea:

Ukraine:

Palestine:


Other issues:


Miscellaneous stuff:

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

“nobody will buy the bonds ”
Once again that came from the Eurozone. That can happen there, it is designed to happen there. As the big bully keeps control.
HERE:
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/05/the-eternal-return-of-technical-government-in-italy/
But impossible in America, Russia, UK, Japan , Australia, Canada et, etc, fully sovereign nation states. Treasury sets the price, not The Market.
https://new-wayland.com/blog/hm-treasury-sets-the-price/
Primary dealers must buy the bonds it is why they are primary dealers, they can be given the funds to buy the bonds or the central bank itself can buy the debt.
The monetary silencing propaganda convinces people everywhere is like the Eurozone. Just about all the myths stem from the Eurozone rules applied onto everyone else. Who don’t have those rules as unlike the Eurozone they are fully sovereign.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 21 2024 13:10 utc | 101

Larry Johnson ( https://sonar21.com/ ) shares his thoughts about the leaked doucments which point to an Israeli attack on Iran:
https://sonar21.com/more-fallout-from-leak-of-us-intelligence-on-israel-prep-for-iran-attack
https://sonar21.com/what-does-the-leak-of-top-secret-documents-have-to-do-with-israels-promise-to-attack-iran

Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2024 13:45 utc | 102

Tom,
This is absolutely Brilliant ! Fantastic. A picture what we already have.
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WywW_uy2bio&pp=ygUNZmFkaGVsIGthYm91Yg%3D%3D
A step by step guide of what BRICS is trying to fix. It is Brilliant and so accessible to the layman. Anybody can understand it.
Now read section 1.5 of the BRICS report. How wonderful it is at looking at each of those steps and what BRICS are going to do about each step.
Hope this helps to connect the dots.
🙂

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 21 2024 14:02 utc | 103

Welcome, Moldova. You are one of us now – you know how to count votes. Wink, wink.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 21 2024 14:08 utc | 104

I respect your support for Trump as a better alternative for various reasons. However, I find it difficult to believe that he can truly “fix relations.”
Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 21 2024 6:06 utc | 90
Trump already “fixed relations” with Russia. When Trump was in office he started the policy of shipping lethal weapons to Ukraine for the stated purpose of killing Russians in the Donbas. Trump did that on his own without the backing of Congress. Before Trump “fixed” things, it was illegal for US arms manufacturers to contribute to the efforts of the Ukrainian government to attack its own citizens. Trump crossed a red line that permanently fixed and turned what was an internal conflict into an international war.

Posted by: jinn | Oct 21 2024 14:08 utc | 105

I should have included this in my @100, sorry. From the X account of Canada’s branch of the Five Eyes, the Communications Security Establishment:
“If you’ve missed their first workshop, no need to worry.
@GetCyberSafe and @MediaSmarts are hosting a second one focused on Navigating Online Privacy and Security. Sign up today! ⬇️”
The 21st is the date for the second workshop, 2:30 EDT
https://x.com/cse_cst/status/1847342151107301723

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 21 2024 14:10 utc | 106

Tom,
When you get time and pour yourself a wee dram at the bar and sit back and listen to the step by step guide of what BRICS is trying to fix above.
STOP! and think about what has been happening in your own country lately. If any of those steps apply to your own country as It doesn’t just apply to the Global south.
Why the BRICS report is not just a brilliant way forward for the BRICS countries. It is a sales pitch to the rest of the world.
🙂

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 21 2024 14:20 utc | 107

@Sun Of Alabama | Oct 21 2024 12:28 utc . Nice work, well done, and thoroughly done. Tks for the effort.
So, I’ll make the effort to read, slowly, the docs, and absorb the concepts.
Another round of Qs will happen once I assimilate (partly) it.
I’m intrigued with your emphasis on balance sheets. This is probably where I’ll start, as it’s the part I’ve not read or understood yet.
I read the BRICS financial system plan, most of that made sense, ties out with your remarks. What I don’t understand yet is the accounting you refer to, and why that’s so important. I always figured “accounting’s been around a while, pretty straight-forward, what’s the big deal about it?”. We’ll see. More on that later .
Issuing debt in a country’s own currency – that makes sense, and I understand the “road to debt serfdom” that issuing debt denominated in a “not your currency” implies.
=== And to the rest of the Bar, some general comments re: BRICS ===
The other part about the BRICS plan – not just the payments part which gets a lot of attention, but the inter-BRICS-country investment part – that may end up being just as important. Why?
a. Looks like it’ll tend to take the current financial centers out of the loop. My reading of the Fin Plan docs indicates that cross-BRICS-country investment is simplified. Makes it easier for a country like Saudi or UAE (they have a lot of savings) to more-directly, more-simply, less-risk invest into countries that need (badly) investment (e.g. most of BRICS). Apparently, this can be done without having to obtain dollars, and denominate the loan in dollars. If you have to get dollars to make the loan/investment, that implies some interaction with the dollar bond markets, and that implies western money-center involvement (skim)
b. It appears to remove some of the currency (fluctuation) risk of those investments (tend to be longer-term) because of the currency basket mechanism between BRICS participants (which is not yet implemented, may take a while yet).
There are some pretty big implications of the “reduce investment friction” subject.
Consider UAE and Saudi (included in next round of BRICS members). They’ve got major savings in dollar-denominated assets, and want to invest into high-growth countries (BRICS). They currently have political and mechanism (legal, payments, currency) type obstacles standing in the way. I think that might be the major impetus for UAE and Saudi to “want in”. Those two countries also have to deal with the politics (arm-twisting) from the West re: moving assets from dollar markets into … non-dollar markets, e.g. BRICS.
I think that’s got to be a big issue for Saudi and UAE: how to gradually move from regime A (dollar) to regime B (BRICS). Tough politics.
And this “gradual tip-toe away from the dollar” act will become an issue (not sure how much of an issue) for the dollar, because there will gradually be less need to obtain and hold dollars. Harder (more costly) to place new debt issues for dollar-regime borrowers.
And of course, this increase in investment is _exactly_ what BRICS countries want and need so much. They’ve got the mat’ls, plenty of know-how, plenty labor (mostly), expanding income and hence domestic demand, etc, – and with reduced intra-BRICS payment friction … what seems next-most-important is investment and local mgmt talent (labor mobility and education systems) to install production and distribution facilities into the need-more-infrastructure countries.
As I look at the rest of the action (discussion, and sub-groups, working papers) around BRICS, I’m seeing a great deal of “tech transfer” efforts and legal systems (IP, contracts, etc.) harmonization. That bodes well, right? So BRICS isn’t just about money; it’s about moving the right resources to the right place for the maximum economic benefit of (their words) “all players”.
I think this sort of discussion around BRICS is really valuable. We’re hearing all the buzzwords, and reading all the hype and hi-falutin’ rhetoric, but what’s not getting discussed (enough and in a form that non-experts can assimilate) is the mechanics of smoothing out the obstacles for high-volume trade and investment. That’s what all these countries really want, and it’s why everyone that’s not in BRICS, who has any sort of political mobility … wants in.
This is where the action is.
I read yesterday some country-by-country stats on the BRICS (current and prospective) participants, on things like education level, inflation, workforce composition, savings, GDP by industry sector, growth rate (Putin took great pains to emphasize this in his remarks) etc. and it tells an eloquent story of “what each country really wants from BRICS” – the stats tell the motivational story. I’ll do an extract later today, and include links to the source mat’l, for the further edification of the Bar.
BRICS is a very interesting story about how economic integration among countries with free will can get done.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 21 2024 14:22 utc | 108

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 0:40 utc | 45 Typical Trumper BS. Refutations of the specially stupid or dishonest added in brackets.
“It is sad, your TDS. [I endorse Claudia de la Cruz, this has nothing to do with the imaginary TDS, it the real TDS: Trump Deification Syndrome. Probably with mad dog anti-Communism added?]
The reality is that it is the Democrat party that is pro-censorship, anti-free speech. [And Republicans are pushing censorship of school textbooks! Purging college campuses in defense of genocidal Zionism. Whitewashing Republicans doesn’t make a case for Trump.]
It is the Democrat party, endorsed by all the dinosaur neocon warmongers like the Cheneys, that is pro-war, anti-peace. [Trump is pro-Israel, this is shamefully dishonest.]
It is the Democrat party that is anti-democracy – literally couping their own standing President so that big donors could insert their favorite sock puppet, all in the cause of keeping that danger to Democracy, Trump, out of the White House again. [1/6 is what an attempted coup looks like, Harris was the replacement and took Harris’ place. If Trump dies tomorrow, it would be a “coup” to pick anyone other than Vance.]
It is the Democrat party that is engaged in all manner of lawfare, perversion of federal agencies, state level electioneering machinations, [If it weren’t for double standards, there are no standards at all? That’s BS. The Republican perversion of SCOTUS inventing presidential immunity is all that, even worse. The proposition that Trump should be immune to legal consequences is despicable.]
It is the Democrat party that is the home of the professional managerial class – which includes the bureaucrats abusing the federal system and federal power. [The PMC is not a thing, it’s a meaningless slur. The longstanding Republican campaign to lower taxes on the rich and cut services—including essential ones!—is abuse of the federal system too.]
It is the Democrat party that is even more in bed with the intel agencies, the military industrial complex, and all other manner of fuckery. Not being privy to the inner workings of the intel agencies and the MIC, unlike c1ue, I need some actual evidence. Historically, the CIA etc. have targeted their enemies, to undermine them. That suggests the Republicans are safely in bed, dutifully blowing the pimp, and the CIA et al. don’t trust the Democrats to offer their services as eagerly.]
It is so bad that the Teamsters have refused to endorse the Democrat party and the Culinary Union has said that Trump will win Nevada despite it being Harris’ strongest state among the swing states. [Yes, Sean O’Brien wouldn’t…but Teamster locals have. I have no idea when the Culinary Union won credentials for its political polling operation. Is there a real point here, or is it just some perverted worship of winners for being winners?]
Posted by: Featherless | Oct 21 2024 1:02 utc | 55 Yes, I do not put in explosions, car chases, sexy women suitable for low comprehension readers.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 21 2024 14:24 utc | 109

The Israel Defense Forces have bombed financial institutions used by Hezbollah.
With this precedent, which banks and institutions would be legal targets in the Ukraine war?

The target of the strikes was the association al-Qard al-Hassan. The IDF says the organization “directly funds Hezbollah’s terror activities, including the purchase of weapons and payments to operatives in Hezbollah’s military wing.”

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 21 2024 14:39 utc | 110

Colonel Cassad says that a Russian and a North Korean flag were hoisted on a captured landfill in Tsukurino.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Oct 21 2024 14:42 utc | 111

A fresh short 8 minute video about CDU Bundeskanzler Merz and Sahra Wagenknecht.
Wagenknecht lässt Politbombe platzen! ==> https://youtu.be/LFMu85DT2TQ
Brittle Germany shatters into splinters.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2024 15:05 utc | 112

I’m in far. Northern California. I don’t have much recorded. Madside has an old album and there’s probably some new stuff out there. They did an interview on Sirius awhile back.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 21 2024 15:25 utc | 113

Posted by: jinn | Oct 21 2024 14:08 utc | 106 Correct. Amusingly enough, Trump recently in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, boasted of threatening to level Moscow and crashing domes onto Putin’s head! (The article is pay walled, a foreign report is here:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/were-friends-but-trump-recalls-warning-putin-over-ukraine-invasion-ill-hit-you-in-middle-of-moscow/articleshow/114424036.cms)
Personally I would add that if Trump wished to pursue leverage over Ukraine he wouldn’t have permitted Mike Johnson, Republican Speaker, to fund the war against Russia. I remember the time when Trumpers were eager to confirm that Trump had in fact pursued a number of policies tough on Russia. It was the most committed Democratic Party hacks (and their cultish devotees like the crew at Lawyers, Guns and Money blog) who were vainly trying to criticize Trump from the right (!) as a pro-Russian traitor. I suppose these people thought it was merely the same kind of right-wing politics as the equally lunatic Ben Ghazi/Clinton Ca$h insinuations of treason. But that was then and Trumpers change their excuses more often than their underwear. (Yes, that’s a joke.) So now it is a badge of pride to claim Trump really is respectful of Putin and Russia and therefore well situated to magically solve the war, just as he ended wars everywhere. (Which he didn’t, though he did apparently increase the number of drone strikes and expand covert ops in north Africa.) The WSJ interview will not change anything, except to be cited as confirmation of Trump’s divine genius.
Also, for the slow: You can’t vote against someone. Claudia de la Cruz for President! You want to send a real message, vote Communist!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 21 2024 16:04 utc | 114

Guest from franconia ( Oct 21 2024 14:42 utc | 112 ) wrote:

Colonel Cassad says that a Russian and a North Korean flag were hoisted on a captured landfill in Tsukurino.

Lovely sense of humor, troll grade S+++ 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 21 2024 16:14 utc | 115

@ William Manchester | All
Dearest Willie …
See: Here.
October 18, 2024, Warrior With A Just Cause Dies As Such.
Oct 21 2024 14:49 utc | 531

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 21 2024 16:35 utc | 116

I’ve seen Berlin, Bucharest and Beijing as if I were there.
In the morning and evening, with my nose in the TV, it’s even truer.
I was part of every battle, glued to the screen.
In Soweto, China and Lebanon.
I don’t regret throwing stones on the edge of Gaza.
Some clerics, in the name of their faith, issued me with a fatwa.
I saw war, victory was at the end of their guns.
I saw the blood on my skin, I saw the fury and the screams
And I prayed, I prayed to all those who sacrificed themselves.
I saw death laughing and picking up those who remained…
And I saw… May a hundred thousand flowers open forever, I’ve already given.
The red flags stopped flying, I burned them.
A man this morning threw himself under a train.
Abandoned like a dog, misery and hunger.
The worst is to be feared tomorrow
I don’t mind
Clinging to my bluish window,
I looked for the truth.
I saw the war, victory was at the end of their guns.
I saw the blood on my skin, I saw the fury and the screams
And I prayed, I prayed to all those who sacrificed.
I saw death laughing and picking up those who remained…
And I saw…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe8mocHKHnM

Posted by: Corto | Oct 21 2024 18:26 utc | 117

@William Manchester #90
The best way to fix relations with Russia is to turf out all of the neocons buried like cancer in the Federal government – state department, CIA, FBI, etc etc.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 18:40 utc | 118

@Sun Of Alabama #101
MMT is hopelessly tainted by its inability to separate economic theory with liberal PMC ideology.
I have mentioned before, that I have asked a number of prominent MMT’ers, specifically including Mosler, to advise on when is “too much” money printing, a problem?
And of course, they won’t say there is any such possibility when we are all living in the reality of said threshold having been exceeded.
So at the end of the day, the MMT’ers like Mosler and Kelton are just convenient excuses for Democrat overspending.
These types are different than say, Dr. Michael Hudson. Hudson started with the same liberal blinders but has contact with reality, and so has gravitated away from many (but not all) of the liberal/PMC ideological blinders. But then again, Dr. Michael Hudson has specific prescriptions for how printed money should be used: for improving national prerogatives like cheap utilities, education, health care for its citizens as opposed to blowing wads of cash on failures like democracy promotion and renewable energy.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 18:46 utc | 119

@steven t johnson #110
I don’t deify Trump. He is precisely what his PMC detractors say he is: a crass man.
But so what? I DGAF about that.
As for whichever fringe nobody you support – good for you. As long as you are very clear that your vote for said nobodies will accomplish absolutely nothing.
Whatever you want to say about Trump – he has energized huge swathes of the American population to vote. This is not something you can say about any of these losers ranging from the Greens to the Libertarians to the various Judas Goats like Cornell West.
Bernie and Obama did energize some certain segments only to then make it even worse by their respective later betrayals/failures.
As for the rest: if you cannot understand the facts right in front of your eyes, it is not my job to fix your blinders.
Go on spending all day making useless comments all over the internet while the world changes around you.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 18:51 utc | 120

Moar centralized powers in this thread

Europe markets watchdog bids to become EU’s version of SEC
Verena Ross calls for more centralised powers in response to appetite for stronger capital markets and investment in bloc

The EU’s financial markets watchdog wants expanded powers to oversee major stock exchanges and other critical parts of the bloc’s financial infrastructure, as it bids to become a European version of the US Securities and Exchange Commission.
Verena Ross, chair of the European Securities and Markets Authority, said “there is clearly a political appetite” in the newly appointed European Commission to centralise more EU financial market supervision as part of a renewed push to revive the region’s struggling capital markets.
continues ==> https://www.ft.com/content/6e491e13-b8e4-4a9d-b43c-ba543608dd51

Expanded powers. Who watches the Watchmen?
The European trading bloc has metastasized into a golem.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2024 18:56 utc | 121

He is precisely what his PMC detractors say he is: a crass man.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 18:51 utc | 121

Schadenfreude awaits Trump’s appointment with fate.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2024 19:00 utc | 122

Schadenfreude awaits Trump’s appointment with fate.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 21 2024 19:00 utc | 123
My schadenfreude awaits Trump’s win or Kamamala’s win or an indecisive result! But I’m not a USian.

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 20:57 utc | 123

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2024 18:51 utc | 121 “…your vote for said nobodies will accomplish absolutely nothing.” The failed mind that wrote this couldn’t read what I said about sending a real message. As for blinders, this clown hasn’t noticed that Trump was president for four years and he basically accomplished a tax cut that favored the (really) rich…and nothing else.
Also this: “Go on spending all day making useless comments all over the internet while the world changes around you.” Translation: c1ue thinks Trump will get bloody deporting millions of people and target “liberals” (the inadvertent identification let slip @120.) Fascists are convinced prisons and killing are heroism far superior to talk.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 21 2024 21:49 utc | 124

A quick scroll on a couple of threads and I see the Jake ‘Koori’ Dog entity is back in full swing with multiple names….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 21 2024 23:38 utc | 125

You raise excellent points and questions regarding Moldova.
I see this happening across the entire west since 2020.
Pragmatic governance by people for people is now about serving an ideological technocratic blob.
That blob has weaponized everything to serve its interests – media, academia, medicine, money and even food. Sadly, i have come to realize that the entire western edifice is captured by this blob and nothing short of mass non-compliance will change it.
Thanks for a thoughtful post.
Posted by: simon crow | Oct 21 2024 11:43 utc | 97

Thank you for your positive comments. I agree with you Simon. a ‘blob’ is a good description – elsewhere someone called it ‘the imperial core’ — which I quite like. But blob works in a nice disparaging way.
The Moldova EU Referendum count has had a major shift when moving from 86% counted to 97%. it was –

The referendum, held alongside a contentious presidential election, saw 54.55% of voters opposing the measure, while 45.45% supported it, according to preliminary results with over 86% of ballots counted.

Update: late night on Sunday 20th local time

Moldovans are almost evenly split on whether to pursue closer ties with the bloc, according to the results of a referendum
Although preliminary results initially showed the ‘no’ vote leading by ten points, the margin gradually shrunk as more ballots were counted overnight. With more than 97% of the ballots counted, 50.14% voted against the proposal, with 49.86% in favor, according to the official tally cited by the news website NOI.md.
The high-stakes presidential election is marred by accusations of rigging and voter manipulation from the government and the opposition alike. The opposition Victory alliance accused the authorities of allowing irregularities, ranging from organized busing of voters to polling stations to allegations of voter intimidation. Chisinau, meanwhile, has accused Russia of attempting to influence the election and has shut down several TV channels that are critical of the government.

Please Note — I cannot be sure my maths is correct, but the shift in the vote when counting increased by 11% to 97% looks like 9 out of 10 of those extra votes must have been YES to the referendum. That seems extremely unlikely and therefore not credible. Unless my Maths is wrong?

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 22 2024 0:48 utc | 126

why??

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 22 2024 0:50 utc | 127

You raise excellent points and questions regarding Moldova.
I see this happening across the entire west since 2020.
Pragmatic governance by people for people is now about serving an ideological technocratic blob.
That blob has weaponized everything to serve its interests – media, academia, medicine, money and even food. Sadly, i have come to realize that the entire western edifice is captured by this blob and nothing short of mass non-compliance will change it.
Thanks for a thoughtful post.
Posted by: simon crow | Oct 21 2024 11:43 utc | 97

Thank you for your positive comments. I agree with you Simon. a ‘blob’ is a good description – elsewhere someone called it ‘the imperial core’ — which I quite like. But blob works in a nice disparaging way.
The Moldova EU Referendum count has had a major shift when moving from 86% counted to 97%. it was –

The referendum, held alongside a contentious presidential election, saw 54.55% of voters opposing the measure, while 45.45% supported it, according to preliminary results with over 86% of ballots counted.

Update: late night on Sunday 20th local time

Moldovans are almost evenly split on whether to pursue closer ties with the bloc, according to the results of a referendum
Although preliminary results initially showed the ‘no’ vote leading by ten points, the margin gradually shrunk as more ballots were counted overnight. With more than 97% of the ballots counted, 50.14% voted against the proposal, with 49.86% in favor, according to the official tally cited by the news website NOI.md.
The high-stakes presidential election is marred by accusations of rigging and voter manipulation from the government and the opposition alike. The opposition Victory alliance accused the authorities of allowing irregularities, ranging from organized busing of voters to polling stations to allegations of voter intimidation. Chisinau, meanwhile, has accused Russia of attempting to influence the election and has shut down several TV channels that are critical of the government.

Please Note — I cannot be sure my maths is correct, but the shift in the vote when counting increased by 11% to 97% looks like 9 out of 10 of those extra votes must have been YES to the referendum. That seems extremely unlikely and therefore not credible. Unless my Maths is wrong?

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 22 2024 0:51 utc | 128

@ William Manchester | Oct 22 2024 0:51 utc | 128
b wrote a full article on moldova today… maybe you’d like to read it and comment on it??

Posted by: james | Oct 22 2024 0:54 utc | 129

Another update – Moldova narrowly votes to secure path toward EU membership after …
10 hours ago … Electoral data shows that Moldovans have voted by a razor-thin majority in favor of securing the country’s path toward European Union …
CHISINAU, Moldova (AP) — Moldovans voted by a razor-thin majority in favor of securing the country’s path toward European Union membership, electoral data showed Monday, after the pro-Western president accused foreign interference and “criminal groups” of trying to undermine the vote in the former Soviet republic.
The “No” vote appeared to be ahead until the last few thousand votes were counted from the large diaspora of Moldova, whose authorities have accused Russia of trying to destabilize the country.
With 99.41% of votes counted in the EU referendum held Sunday, the “Yes” vote stood at 50.39% and the “No” vote at 49.61%, according to the Central Electoral Commission.
A loss would have been a political disaster for the pro-Western government, which strongly supported the pro-EU campaign.
https://apnews.com/article/moldova-elections-eu-referendum-russia-325cb2c13beb1d76565a6e2aadef971a
This is extremely suspect to me – but what is needed is ‘proof’ Will this lead to another Maidan type public protests in Moldova but by anti-EU voters?

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 22 2024 1:01 utc | 130

@steven t johnson #125
Idiot TDS like you are the ones who cannot seem to understand that mass illegal immigration hurts the working class and helps the ruling class.
The core of historical anti-immigrant sentiment has always been these groups.
That’s why Trump is winning: the union members, the blue collar workers, the self employed business people – they understand full well what the negative impact of dozens of millions of illegal immigrants, aided and abetted by a Democrat administration, means for their future.
And yes, if enforcing the actual laws on the books means deporting millions, so be it.
If you don’t like the laws on the books, change them but this Democrat bullshit of just not doing their literal fiduciary duty of enforcing the laws they don’t like is unacceptable.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 22 2024 1:05 utc | 131

While I understand that a sovereign country cannot go bankrupt there is the effect of losing faith in the institution that cannot be ignored….from Wall Street On Parade
Jerome Powell’s Fed Notches an Historic Record of $204 Billion in Cumulative Operating Losses – Losing Over $1 Billion a Week for More than Two Years
If an alternative to the global private system of finance is created that has any hint of value associated money, IMO, there will be a rush by many nations to move money to that platform.
Until then it looks like it will be small integrations of nations cash flows without the required Reserve Currency tithe.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 22 2024 2:56 utc | 132

Posted by: suzan | Oct 21 2024 4:26 utc | 87
“…A core principle of buddhism is that well being is dependent upon (or interdependent with or co-originates with) working for the benefit of others — this holds across the various schools.”
This is similar to the saying upon which Jesus has said, in each of three Christian gospels that the entirety of Jewish law depends. The second part of the saying, or edict, is “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.” Each of the three gives a different setting, Luke’s being the most expansive of the three. Yet John, who is called in Orthodoxy “the Theologian”, doesn’t repeat what the other three have said. Or does he?
One needs to examine these descriptive verses, in which men have come to stone a woman taken in adultery: John Ch 8:1-11. Twice, Jesus writes something (we are not told what) in the sand.
For Luke, the question has become ‘Who, then, is my neighbor?’ The answer is found in the story of the good Samaritan. John takes it a step further: ‘Who, then, am I?’
“Let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.”
Thanks, suzan, for expressing this core principle common to both faiths. It is not only what one does that affects the wellbeing of others; it is what one does not do.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 22 2024 4:36 utc | 133

Posted by: Featherless | Oct 20 2024 23:37 utc | 36
I am also sorry for your loss, Featherless.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 22 2024 4:54 utc | 134

The kiwi who wanna be chickenhawk
NZ navy ship joined a fon sojourn thru TW straits, later sank off Somoa.
Now a tourist attraction….and laughing stock !

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 4:55 utc | 135

The paper of record finally got the courage to report on BRICS. Or perhaps they were passed a note by the Atlantic Council about what to say?
https://www.nytimes.com/search?query=brics

Posted by: too scents | Oct 22 2024 6:08 utc | 136

The Wall Street Journal can’t find the BRICS summit.
https://www.wsj.com/search?query=brics

Posted by: too scents | Oct 22 2024 6:23 utc | 137

The Financial Times doesn’t think BRICS is too interesting.
https://www.ft.com/search?q=brics&sort=date&isFirstView=true

Posted by: too scents | Oct 22 2024 6:26 utc | 138

10 year Treasury rises to 4.2%
(De-dollarization brings peace)

Posted by: Exile | Oct 22 2024 7:35 utc | 139

Re: De-Dollarizatin brings Peace
Rough figures:
Interest Payments as Percent of Federal Tax Revenues
5% 2021
18% 2023
30-35% 2025
?????? 2027

Posted by: Exile | Oct 22 2024 8:02 utc | 140

Further to my @100, @107 There was another important event that took place at 2:30 EDT on Oct 21st. It was a press conference at the UN by the World Wide Fund for Nature (World Wildlife Fund) about the United Nations Biodiversity Conference 2024 (COP16)
Description (cut & paste from UNTV):
“COP16 will be the first Biodiversity Conference of the Parties (COP) since the adoption of the Kunming-Montreal Global Biodiversity Framework at COP15 in December 2022 in Montreal, Canada. Parties to the Convention are expected to show the alignment of their National Biodiversity Strategies and Action Plans with the Framework.
This conference encompasses the sixteenth meeting of the Conference of the Parties to the Convention on Biological Diversity (COP16), the eleventh meeting of the Conference of the Parties to the Cartagena Protocol on Biosafety, and the fifth meeting of the Conference of the Parties to the Nagoya Protocol on Access to Genetic Resources and the Fair and Equitable Sharing of Benefits. A high-level ministerial segment will also be part of the event.”
Okay. A WWF member from Columbia spoke… among others. The thing is the WWF tracked some animal species over fifty years and recorded a 73 percent decrease in biodiversity – of which 95 percent happened in Latin America. So they plan to change it. It is extraordinary how among the elite merchant class, nothing has changed since Hudson Bay Company, the East India Company.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 22 2024 10:26 utc | 141

whadayaknow !

Seaspan Corp pens six large container ship newbuildings in RMB deal

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 13:47 utc | 142

IMF Lowers Global Growth Forecast, Warns of Increasing Risks
. Fund sees wars, protectionism posing threats to expansion
. Euro-area outlook reduced on manufacturing in Germany, Italy

The International Monetary Fund lowered its global growth forecast for next year and warned of accelerating risks from wars to trade protectionism, even as it credited central banks for taming inflation without sending nations into recession.
Global output will expand 3.2%, 0.1 percentage point slower than a July estimate, the IMF said in an update of its World Economic Outlook released on Tuesday. It left the projection for this year unchanged at 3.2%. Inflation will slow to 4.3% next year from 5.8% in 2024.
continues ==> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-22/imf-lowers-global-growth-forecast-warns-of-increasing-risks

The source documentation for the Bloomberg report is here ==> https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2024/10/22/world-economic-outlook-october-2024
Chapter 3 of the report is expecially noteworthy. It addresses selling the IMF plan.


Chapter 3: Understanding the Social Acceptability of Structural Reforms

Structural reforms are urgently needed as the world grapples with low growth, demographic shifts, and challenges related to the green and technological transitions. However, reform efforts have waned in recent years amid rising public resistance. Chapter 3 delves into the social acceptability of structural reforms, exploring the drivers of public attitudes and the effectiveness of various strategies to increase support. It finds that resistance often stems from perceptions, misinformation, and trust deficits rather than economic self-interest.

“perceptions, misinformation, and trust deficits” ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory

Posted by: too scents | Oct 22 2024 15:21 utc | 143

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 22 2024 1:05 utc | 132 Let me repeat myself: Vote for Claudia de la Cruz! To send a real message, vote Communist! Calling this TDS is lying. As for the barely secret enthusiasm for the murders required in deporting millions of immigrants (which will include deporting legal immigrants by the way, if this fascist program comes to life,) the claim that small business owners have the same interest as union members? Farmers underpaying immigrants legal and illegal don’t have an interest in paying higher wages is more dishonesty. I have seen hints that “urban” people (we can guess who that means) will be exported from the dens of iniquity called cities to labor for low wages and bad working conditions. At this point, I’m not sure c1ue wouldn’t find that a wonderful final solution.
c1ue, like all enemies of the workers, stands for the systematically anti-labor Republican Party. (No, the Democratic Party is not systematically pro-labor, that’s why the minimal efforts by some Democratic Party factions are so carefully calibrated to make the least difference possible, just enough to improve the image without seriously inconveniencing the big rich.) Being an enemy, c1ue is for dividing the working class. Instead of advocating unionizing immigrant farm workers, of declaring “The union card is the green card!” c1ue wants to attack workers while hypocritically claiming it helps “workers” and small business owners, fighting the bourgeoisie’s class war in the name of patriotic unity. This is the modern day version of pitting craft unions, skilled workers, against industrial unions, which organize unskilled workers. It’s pro-business, nothing else. Labor politics is worker solidarity. Idiotic acronyms like TDS are a nearly infallible sign of a political swindler.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 22 2024 15:24 utc | 144

Here is the perfect juxtaposition:
Kamala Harris says her first job was working McDonald’s
But McDonald’s has no records of it.
Did it actually happen or is Kamala lying?
Here is Trump actually working at McDonald’s

driver in car (East Asian): You made it possible for ordinary people meet you
Trump: You aren’t ordinary. You are not ordinary.

A Trump campaign stunt? Absolutely.
Does it show Trump walks the walk? Absolutely.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 22 2024 15:37 utc | 145

=== Long Post Warning. Skip if BRICS is not of interest ====
Why Join BRICS?
A country joins BRICS because it needs help. It needs others do what it can’t do for itself.
Countries, like people, have different circumstances and different capabilities.
Trade enables countries to give something they have in order to get something they don’t have.
Trade happens when what you give is less valauable than what you get.
There are always barriers to trade, including things like transport cost, language, culture, currency, politics, and simple competency to perform the basic work of trading. It’s complex.
What does BRICS actually DO?
At its core, BRICS is about making trade easier, faster, less risky. BRICS makes trade more profitable for everyone involved.
So the BRICS regime consists of a set of tools that the members use to facilitate trade. In another memo, I’ll talk about those tools. This message is about “what each country brings to the table (has to give) and what that country wants that it doesn’t have (enough of).
What types of things can be traded?
raw materials, like minerals, energy, and agricultural products (wood, grain, meat)
technology. Technology can take the form of know-how, software, or tools and equipment that embody technology, like machine tools, steel mills, and port facilities.
manufactured goods. These are raw materials which are transformed into a higher value product via the application of technology.
capital. Savings in one country can be invested in production equipment or infrastructure in another country
labor. Some countries have a shortage, some a surplus of skilled workers
What Are the Trade-Related Characteristics of BRICS members
Now it’s time to look at the profile of a few of the BRICS members, or prospective members as case studies. Let’s pick China, Iran, and Ethiopia as countries on a continuum from most-developed to least-developed from a trading perspective.
Generally speaking, the more-developed economies are looking for raw materials, or more labor, or markets for their goods. They have technology (China, Russia) and possibly large stocks of raw materials like energy (Russia) or food (Russia and Brazil) or even capital (China) to offer.
The countries with less-balanced economies have a different trading profile. What they need, generally, is to build infrastructure and productive capacity to meet internal needs, and to have something to offer their trading partners. They often have a raw materials stock, cheaper labor, or a desirable geo-political or geo-economic location to offer their trading partners.
Case Studies: Ethiopia, China, Iran
Let’s review the trading situation of Ethiopia, China and Iran.
Ethiopia
107 million people, area 1,150,000 sq kilometers, pop density 93 people per sq. kilometer. 19 percent unemployment. 24 births per 1000 people, annually. GDP $164 billion.
Ethiopia’s main industrial production is iron ore, coal (begins 2023), petroleum and natural gas. Ethiopia makes almost enough energy to meet its internal needs. The inflation rate is 32% annually. Ethiopia didn’t report standard of living, transport infrastructure, or educational attainment statistics; guess why.
Ethiopia is located just inside the Horn of Africa, right near the mouth of the Red Sea – right across from Yemen. Ethiopia is land-locked, and has two small highways that connect the country to the rest of the world. Ethiopia has huge potash reserves, and no railways. Ethiopia has about 3.5% unemployment. Ethiopia’s current industrial policy focuses on steel, cement, food, textiles, and horticulture.
China
For brevity, I’ll summarize: China has technology, lots of people, a skilled workforce, plenty of manufacturing capability, a good transport network, and lots of capital. What China needs is raw materials, energy, and markets for their production. In 2020, of a population of 1.4 billion, China graduated 3.57 million STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) students, or 2.5% of their population. China graduated 12 million college students last year. 17% of China’s 17-24 year-old cohort are unemployed.
Iran
Iran has a skilled workforce, petroleum and gas deposits, coal, iron, aluminum, chromium, copper, zinc and manganese deposits (and several other industrial-use metals), along with petrochem, cement, metals smelting and fabrication, manufacturing, and textiles production. It has a limited internal transport network of roads and railways. It has much of what it needs to operate an advanced manufacturing economy.
What Iran lacks is production capacity, capital, and markets for its products. In 2020, of a population of 85 million, Iran graduated 211 thousand Science, Technology and Engineering (STEM) students, or 0.02 percent of their population. 20% of the government budget, and 5% of GDP is spent on education. Education is free, or almost-free at all levels. Unemployment is stable at around 9%.
For comparison, the U.S. population in 2020 was 331 million, and in 2020 we graduated 820 thousand STEM students, or 0.02 percent of our population. Same _percentage_ as Iran.
Let’s Trade!
China needs materials and markets, offers manufactures, technology, capital, and possibly labor.
Iran needs capital, machinery and industrial process equipment, and transport infrastructure. It offers materials, manufacturing, I.T. and engineering talent, and markets for its raw material and value-added products.
Ethiopia needs capital, industrial production equipment, education (tech transfer), and transport infrastructure.
Ethiopia offers offers iron and steel (some, for local or regional use), some light manufactures (textiles, leather goods). Ethiopia needs export-oriented production to pay for all the imports it needs.
Iran and Ethiopia need what China has. China needs markets to sell their goods into, so that’s a good fit. Iran has raw materials China needs, Ethiopia less so. What Ethiopia most needs from China is the development of mineral resources within Ethiopia, or value-add production equipment from China to produce products (like steel re-bar or structural steel) for use in the horn of Africa.
How Does BRICS Help?
BRICS helps by providing tools, shared knowledge, and building relationships among the players in these trading economies. In my next article – which I may, in fact, actually write – we’ll talk about how the BRICS project makes this trade happen better.
More Info Available
For more statistical information, see the BRICS Joint Statistical Publication.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 22 2024 16:11 utc | 146

@147,
A very good document and a very nice analysis as well. I like the analysis related to the strengths and weaknesses of those 3 mentioned BRICS members. There is indeed a good balance between resource based nations/emerging economies (like Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran) and theologically developed nations or with a lot of capital such as China, Russia, UAE.
India, Brazil are also future major powers into their own fields/regions.
Maybe choosing future candidates should be based on the principle of adding a more developed nation that is strongly developed on service industry or high tech (such as Malaysia) and a country that can offer the raw materials (with it’s lithium reserves) and get the technology in return (as an example Bolivia).

Posted by: JamesBond | Oct 22 2024 16:57 utc | 147

Kiwis pivot to FUKUSA, while limeys wanna reset with China, !

Britain seeking new ‘starting point’ in China relationship after Lammy visit

LOL !

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 17:37 utc | 148

*HUawei, 5G, HS2, Hinkley betrayal,
*FUKUSA accused China of
Wuflu..
*FUKUS charged Beijing with Uighurs, HK, Tibet genocide at UN
*Five liars accused China of intensive election meddling and malicious cyber warfare
After all the above, they say …

Lets start all over again and talk some biz

Just like that, !

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 18:05 utc | 149

Tom,
A very well thought out analysis. Well done sir. Bravo!
However, a couple of points.
HERE:
https://new-wayland.com/blog/anatomy-of-an-fx-transaction/
This needs to be included in your analysis. What does it tell you ? Importers pay with the currency they have and exporters receive the currency they want. Banks are in the middle and sort all of that out.
So you don’t need to produce anything to get the imports you need. Money buys the imports you need.
In any national economy there is the pile of stuff you can make yourself, then there is the stuff you can get from somewhere else which makes your pile bigger (imports), and after that there is the amount of stuff you have to give to somewhere else which makes your pile smaller (exports).
Not everyone can run a trade surplus that’s why the gold standard fails. You need countries to run trade deficits. The UK runs a trade deficit.
In reality the trade is balanced. The export product people miss is ‘Sterling savings’. Otherwise the exchange rate would have moved to eliminate the physical deficit.
UK Imports are paid for with Sterling promises. Hence why we have a trade deficit in a floating exchange rate environment. we have very little to give in return as Thatcher destroyed our manufacturing.
That means those exporting to the UK they have no better alternative. There is no untapped demand elsewhere they are exporting there already. Unless, mars opens for business.
So rather than get anything worthwhile in return they accept sterling promises.
I’m not saying exporting isn’t required, but it should not be the focus – as it is a real cost in real resources terms. The focus should be on smoothing the path of imports, and the exports will necessarily follow from that or foreign exporters won’t be able to sell their stuff here.
The obsession should be with imports and then providing as little as possible in exports to ensure they turn up. Imports are what improve a nations standard of living.
Domestic first and foremost. Imports second with ‘structural autarky’, ie diversity of supply across BRICS focussed on discretionary items with supply sufficient to withstand a failure of one supplier. Exports very much at the back of the queue.
If you spend time making a car, in return for mere electronic imprints on a computer, you have used up finite labour hours that could have been used, alternatively, to produce something for consumption domestically.
Producing for domestic consumption, and imports are what improve the standard of living for UK residents. Not pass through. Not ‘export led growth’.
The needs of the country are not the needs of the exporter. That’s why we left the EU, which favoured UK exporters over UK workers.
You win in international trade by exporting as little as possible and importing as much as possible. It’s the physical exchange that represents the terms of trade and the standard of living increase, not accumulating coins from other nations.
There is a section of society that believes that everything should be sacrificed on the altar of ‘international trade’. Once you realise that exports are a physical loss to the country and imports are a physical benefit that increase our standard of living then you can switch that belief around.
As a major net importer we receive items in return for mere blips on a central bank spreadsheet. That’s not a bad thing. That’s a demonstration that those exporting to us haven’t got anywhere else to send their stuff that offers a more material return.
That’s not to say we go mad, just that we can look at things from a different point of view. International issues aren’t quite the straitjacket many believe.
Real terms of trade is what counts.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 22 2024 18:09 utc | 150

Advice to Xi,
Beware of pale faced bearing gift !
Once bitten, …..

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 18:10 utc | 151

Sub of Alabama = Derek Henry 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Exile | Oct 22 2024 18:14 utc | 152

Tom,
This is excellent ! Will help with your analysis further down the road. How BRICS are trying to improve things.
HERE:
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=40433
Ensures when BRICS is discussed, nobody traps themselves inside fixed exchange rate thinking. Avoids that minefield. The mainstream view live in that minefield.
Michael Hudson and Steve Keen do it sometimes when they talk of “balance of payments” they trap themselves into fixed exchange rate thinking. That no longer applies.
Hope this helps.
Really looking forward to your next instalment. As your first instalment was very good.
🙂

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 22 2024 18:23 utc | 153

thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2024 18:30 utc | 154

@Sun and James Bond: Thanks for excellent feedback. It’ll get that stuff factored into subsequent pieces.
I am glad to see people are thinking seriously about this subject. Why? Because a) it’s an instance of actual _solutions that change things_ in fundamental, nearly universal ways, and b) because it shows that we Westerners ain’t quite dead (intellectually and emotionally) … yet.
I said “yet”. Give us a few more years of cultural decline and …

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 22 2024 18:42 utc | 155

Kazan space:
Pepe Escobar v Alexander Dugin | BRICS expansion, de-dollarization, Russia BRICS SUMMIT 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HuppfsjYFw [59 mins]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 20:09 utc | 156

@Tom Pfotzer | Oct 22 2024 16:11 utc | 147
Thanks Tom. Timely and v. useful.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 20:18 utc | 157

A Pro-Censorship NGO Allegedly Collaborates with White House to Target Elon Musk’s X Platform
The Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), a UK-based nonprofit tied to the Labour Party, has reportedly set its sights on dismantling Elon Musk’s X (formerly Twitter) with support from top Democrats in Washington. According to internal documents leaked by a whistleblower, the organization is working to coordinate advertiser boycotts and regulatory action to achieve its goal.
The leaked files, distributed by journalists Matt Taibbi and Paul Thacker, reveal that the CCDH listed “Kill Musk’s Twitter” as its top annual priority in several staff planners. Their strategy focuses on targeting advertising revenue, influencing EU and UK regulatory bodies, and pushing for legislative change in the US through a proposed bill known as STAR—an acronym for ‘Safety, Transparency, Accountability, and Responsibility.’ If enacted, STAR would establish an independent digital regulator in the US to impose penalties for what it deems harmful content.
Coordination with US Lawmakers and White House Officials
To advance its agenda, the CCDH reached out to Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota) in May and organized a private conference in Washington, D.C., in June. Whistleblowers claimed this event was attended by a senior White House advisor, staff from Representative Adam Schiff’s (D-California) office, officials from the US State Department, and the vice president of Media Matters for America, a Democrat-aligned watchdog group.
Musk has responded strongly to these developments, declaring “war” on the CCDH. Earlier this year, Musk sued Media Matters for allegedly fabricating claims that advertisements on X were placed next to pro-Nazi content, accusing the group of attempting to “destroy X Corp” by driving advertisers away.
History of CCDH and Its Political Connections
The CCDH, founded by Morgan McSweeney, former chief of staff to UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, has a history of launching advertiser boycotts against political opponents, particularly on the left. McSweeney also played a key role in Starmer’s rise to leadership within the Labour Party. The organization’s CEO, Imran Ahmed, has led multiple campaigns aimed at curbing what the CCDH views as harmful or disinformation content, targeting figures like Musk and platforms like Substack.
The CCDH’s alignment with the Democratic Party isn’t limited to regulatory advocacy. Labour Together, a think tank closely linked with Starmer’s party and formerly directed by McSweeney, has been advising US Vice President Kamala Harris’ election campaign, with over 100 Labour activists reportedly campaigning for Harris in the US.
Legal and Ethical Boundaries for Nonprofits
Despite its aggressive stance, internal CCDH communications indicate that the organization is aware of the legal risks associated with its lobbying activities. In an internal memo, staff were cautioned to “understand our limitations” as a nonprofit, which must avoid crossing the line between advocacy and lobbying, yet the directive to “inch towards our goal of regulatory action” was still emphasized.
In response to the revelations, Musk took to X on Tuesday, calling the CCDH “a criminal organization” and issuing a direct declaration: “This is war.”

Posted by: William Manchester | Oct 23 2024 0:51 utc | 159

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 20:09 utc | 157
Many thanks, Don Firineach! That was a wonderful discussion, bravo to all three! October is such a beautiful month, all around the world I think, so — begone wars, electioneering, even Halloween and Guy Fawkes preparations! Brics and multipolarity is so much more exciting, and to listen to both Alexander Dugin and Pepe Escobar in conversation such a privilege. I certainly recommend this discussion to all MoA folk.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 23 2024 1:12 utc | 160

@ William Manchester | Oct 23 2024 0:51 utc | 160
My dearest Willie, what is your ‘professional’ enlightened view as a devotee of history should Trump win the US election? Care to enlighten the Bar ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 23 2024 2:52 utc | 161

@ Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 20:09 utc | 157 with the New Rules link…thanks
I would rather read such but did watch it and agree it could be of value to those just starting to explore geopolitics. The perspective given by Pepe about the efforts and timeline for a new Reserve Currency was good but I think it will happen much sooner than the decades he talked about. Pepe did admit that the new finance plumbing pieces are coming together and I think that the demand for a new money along with the loss of faith in the existing fiat money will force the issue sooner than most think.
And I think forcing the issue before everyone is ready is part of the empire plan to maintain some piece of finance outside of sovereign control.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 23 2024 3:03 utc | 162

ZH has a Pepe Escobar posting up with the title
Escobar: Date With Destiny – BRICS Offers Hope In A Time Of War
the quote

In his speech at the BRICS Business Council last Friday and in a subsequent roundtable with heads of media groups of BRICS members, President Putin in fact summed up all the major dossiers. Here are the highlights.
On the role of the Shanghai-based NDB, the BRICS bank: Russia “will expand the capabilities of the NDB”; the bank should become the main investor in major technological and infrastructure projects for BRICS members and the wider Global South. That makes total sense, with the NDB financing infrastructure development and commercially involved with local, private companies. Incidentally, the next president of the NDB will be Russian; the top candidate is Aleksei Mozhin, who was previously at the IMF.
On creating a single digital infrastructure for BRICS: already on. Russia is working on “the use of digital currencies in investment processes in the interests of other developing economies.” That ties up with BRICS work on their own version of SWIFT for international financial transactions. And also ties up with BRICS Pay – a debit card whose first trial run happened during the Business Council last week, not dissimilar to AliPay in China, and soon to be rolled out across BRICS members.
A BRICS single currency:

“Not being considered yet, this issue is not ripe yet.”

De-dollarization, Putin stressed, is proceeding step by step:

“We’re taking individual steps, one after another. As regards finance, we did not drop the dollar. The dollar is the universal currency. But it wasn’t us – we were banned and barred from [using] it. And now 95% of all the external trade of Russia is denominated in national currencies. They did it themselves with their own hands. They thought we would collapse.”

The challenge for a unified BRICS currency: That “requires thorough economic integration (…) Apart from high level of integration among BRICS members, the introduction of a single BRICS currency would involve comparable monetary quality and volume (…) Otherwise, we will face even bigger issues than those that occurred in the EU.” Putin recalled that when the euro was introduced in the EU, their economies were neither comparable nor equal.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 23 2024 3:18 utc | 163

Re: new currency ?
40% backed by Gold been floated as part of the basket is most interesting.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 3:37 utc | 164

Re: if Trump wins ?
Not much changes, beaucoup theater but not much change …..excerpt there is the slim possibility that Trump, being experienced in post-bankruptcy life, would embark on restructing Federal Debt
Trump knows it’s better to restructure debt sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 3:42 utc | 165

Apache Chief BIg Foot

Beware of pale faced bearing ‘gift’

He should know.

New British foreign secretary seeks to push economic ties on first China visit

Well China wanted to push economic ties with UK.
The limey shot themselves in the foot following gringo diktat to BDS China, screwing the Chinese in the Huawei, HS2, Hinkley deals.
Now that British economy is tanking, they look for lifeline from……. Washington Beijing!
They all do,….the Milei, Meloni and a whole lot of others, coming back to China for salvation from the mess made in USA !
iT GEts better…
It never fails, these gardenists.
They go to Beijing with begging bowl in hand, while cracking a whip at their host. !

David Lammy to raise human rights issues and Beijing’s support for Russia on China trip

The hubris, the hubris !

Posted by: denk | Oct 23 2024 4:32 utc | 166

Meanwhile….
Australian indigenous senator to king Charles

Fuck you the genocidaire

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/22/australian-indigenous-senator-lidia-thorpe-king-charles-australia-visit

Posted by: denk | Oct 23 2024 5:13 utc | 167

thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Oct 23 2024 5:13 utc | 168

Re: new currency ?
40% backed by Gold been floated as part of the basket is most interesting.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 3:37 utc | 165
Read the report, there’s no new currency. No backing by gold.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/e1231f66
1. Cross-border payments – a fast, cheap, transparent and inclusive mechanism that is built around the principle of minimizing trade barriers and non-discriminatory access.
2. Cross-border investments – an increasingly seamless environment that allows for efficient and sustainable capital allocation that does not hinge on a single-currency
centric infrastructure.
3. Reserves – sovereign reserve system that is supported by diversification across currencies, commodities and alternatives; protected from any outside will.
4. Stabilization & Development – consisting of development mechanisms via Multilateral Development Banks (MDBs) that include the World Bank Group (WBG) and other regional
institutions that are supporting developing economies, and the Global Financial Safety Net (GFSN) such as the IMF, Regional Financing Arrangements (RFAs), central banks’
bilateral swap lines – to provide adequate financial support against economic shocks (crises).
5. Innovation (as the underlying principle) – implementation of fast, cost-effective and protected means of settlements that rely on innovative solutions such as central bank
digital currencies (CBDCs)
Nothing about a single currency backed by gold. Back to the report
We believe that the future model of the IMFS should revolve around the following principles that would carry equal levels of importance
1. Security – this includes technological and legal security, shielding its participants from unlawful loss of their capital and assets.
2. Independence –a solution that will perform based on mutual-reliance thus preventing any single party from establishing an overarching control.
3. Inclusion – non-discriminatory access and minimization of entry barriers; it ensures equal access to the IMFS facilities regardless of the advancement of the home economy
(EMDEs / AEs) and prevents the imposition of restrictions by external parties that are not part of the transaction.
4. Sustainability – the solution must be designed with a long-term view and remain adaptable to the changing economic environment (e.g., shifting balances of payment,new models of financing etc.), thus retaining its participants within the system andallowing it to achieve a network effect.
Again,Nothing about a single currency backed by gold. All of it is the complete opposite of a new currency backed by gold.
If gold is in the basket. All that means is gold will be or can be used as collateral for private sector loans. That’s all it is good for. What it is used for by every country today.
It doesn’t back anything or those who have more of it have an advantage over others. Which if you read the report is the complete opposite of what they are trying to achieve.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 23 2024 10:47 utc | 169

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 3:37 utc | 165
Most countries have gold in their baskets at central banks today. This is nothing new. The BOE holds gold in its basket of currencies.
Doesn’t mean the £ is backed by gold.
It is not interesting it is completely normal.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 23 2024 10:56 utc | 170

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 3:37 utc | 165
I suppose Exile, it all boils down to understanding and recognising what we already have. Only then will people recognise the changes being put forward by BRICS.
Hitching ideological dreams onto the back of something they have never understood. Due to the education system and the monetary silencing propaganda that has taken place. Is utterly pointless and confuses the issue further.
Which I suppose is what they have always done, for decades now, To hide how money really works.
Gold being in a basket of currencies is completely normal. It doesn’t mean gold is in the basket to back the currencies in the basket. That’s ideological drivel.
Yet, that’s how gold bugs sell their myths.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 23 2024 11:16 utc | 171

This might help Exile,
Private pension funds:
Private pension funds take your savings and
1. Invest in stocks
2. Invest in a range of countries savings certificates from gilts, US treasuries, Euro bonds, Japanese bonds , etc, etc.
3. Sometimes add a bit of gold. Other commodities.
That doesn’t mean the gold backs the basket of currencies and stocks in the basket.
Gold is there because when the financial advisor of the pension fund Sat you down and said between 1-5 how much risk do you want to take. 1 being low risk and 5 being high risk.
How long do you want to invest 3 years, 5 years, 10 years up to 30 years.
When you pick level 3 risk and say you want to invest for 10 years. The portfolio manager will create a basket to reflect those choices you made. Alter the basket for the full 10 years to reflect risk level 3.
Most people take more risk when they are younger. Less risk as they approach retirement age.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 23 2024 11:42 utc | 172

Sometimes I wish maybe that I didn’t ask, but I did, so. “Italian surfer dies after being impaled by swordfish in ‘freak accident’” reports Canada’s Global News.
Excerpt
“Manfrini was surfing in the waters of the Mentawai Islands Regency when she was impaled by the swordfish, the acting head of the Mentawai Islands’ Disaster Management Agency, Lahmudin Siregar, told local media.
Siregar said Manfrini was “unexpectedly” struck by the swordfish’s long, pointed bill while off the coast of Sumatra. He told the state news agency Antara that the impact caused a wound two inches (about five centimetres) deep.

Manfrini was a co-founder of the U.K.-based company Awave, a travel agency centred around surfing.”
I read this and I say — impaled, yes — swordfish, no, although maybe “swordfish” (‘swordfish’?) which I thought in moments, previously in Canadian media was an oblique reference to the Arab world
To the Daily Mail: ‘Houses of horror’ sex abuse care home chiefs ‘hid behind global Islamic business network’ before 400 children were rescued
Excerpt
“The group ran more than 100 care homes in the Muslim-majority Southeast Asian nation where children as young as one year old were housed.
‘They basically exploit religious belief, and this is not unusual. A lot of cults operate like this… It’s a form of social engineering,’ Munira Mustafa, executive director of security consultancy Chasseur Group in the capital Kuala Lumpur, told AFP.”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 23 2024 12:04 utc | 173

P & I
US is spending $28 billion on Sinophobic propaganda to colonise your brain
By Eugene Doyle
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Thirty million people have downloaded just one of Professor John Mearsheimer’s lectures – “Why Ukraine is the West’s fault”; he is undoubtedly one of the world’s top geopolitical thinkers and public intellectuals

Disagree
Mearsheimer is a white supremacist like fucker carlson.

Ukraine is the wrong war.
We should be up against the chicom…with the Russians, just like the good ole days.’

https://tinyurl.com/mpawr496

I want to hear more Chinese commentators, Russian commentators, Yemeni, Turkish, Malaysian, Indonesian, Georgian, Libyan, Nigerien, you name it. Their opinions matter.

P & I once had a kickass forum.
I posted there for a while.
The forum was shut down not long later, my guess is intervention from the Usual Suspects.
The discussions were prolly getting too incendiary for the ptb

We virtually never get to hear extended interviews with any of the West’s strategic competitors or victims, and our populations are so mentally enslaved it doesn’t come across to them as distinctly weird.

There has been an invasion of tourists from the garden into China, taking advantage of the 14 days visa free offer.
Many confessed their abject fear for the impending adventure…fully expecting to be harassed, interrogated , roughened up by hostile chicom, even thrown into jail by the CPC gestapo at the slightest excuse. !!!
Poor dear !
how does it feel to be kept in the dark and fed bullshit all day long, in the land of free mushroom ?
[PIlger RIP, somebody should do an autopsy on JP]

why, for example, infrastructure in the American homeland is falling apart but the military industrial complex has unlimited funds to blow other people’s infrastructure apart

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But all that foreign interventions are done in the name of gringo, for their own good, donchaknow ?

US President Joe Biden is going to take a decision that he thinks is in the best interest of the United States, the White House has said, after China warned of “resolute measures” if the Tibet policy bill is signed into law.
The US Congress passed this month a legislation, the Resolve Tibet Act, calling for a peaceful resolution of the dispute over the status and governance of Tibet. It also calls on Beijing to resume dialogue with the Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama.
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“The President is going to do what he thinks is best on behalf of the American people, that’s what I can tell you,” White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters at her daily news conference on Tuesday when asked about China’s warning.

Posted by: denk | Oct 23 2024 14:05 utc | 174

@Sun who said:

Importers pay with the currency they have and exporters receive the currency they want. Banks are in the middle and sort all of that out.
So you don’t need to produce anything to get the imports you need. Money buys the imports you need.

Sun: I’m not yet on-board with your assertion that an importing country doesn’t have to export anything in order to trade. Let’s use the example of Ethiopia, whose currency is the birr.
Suppose Ethiopia wants to buy Chinese railroad locomotives. A whole bunch of them, a few $billion worth, over a period of a decade. Let’s use your example, and some commercial or central bank is in the middle of the deal, and accumulates – over a period of years – a whole bunch of birrs. Every new loco delivered, bunch of new birrs.
Where can you spend birrs? Only in Ethiopia. What’s China going to buy with all its birrs? Iron? China has iron. Food? Not economical to ship food all that way, and Ethiopia isn’t the most efficient producer of food China can buy from (e.g. Russia, right next door).
So, unless Ethiopia comes up with some export that’s sensible for China to buy, why would China be incentivized to sell locos to Ethiopia?
Yes, China could use the birrs to buy Ethiopian real estate, or buy the electrical power distribution franchise, or a bauxite mine… but that’s pretty much the model the West uses now, right? Sell your national assets to pay off your debts.
I’m clearly missing something, I think, because you’re pretty smart, and you’ve thought about this a lot. Please explain it to me in simple terms, so I can get this important concept you’re trying to put across.
And thanks again for all your insights and efforts.
By the way, would you consider writing part of the “BRICS tools to make trade easier” piece that needs to be written? I’m seeing a lot of that material in a post you made up-thread. There is a world of material to be written on this BRICS phenomenon, and I’d really welcome your involvement.
Other writers are welcome, too. Got interest? Let’s talk about what needs to be written, and who wants to do what. Overlap is fine, differing viewpoints just as good. Dialog works.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 23 2024 15:05 utc | 175

BRICS 2024 Kazan Declaration: http://static.kremlin.ru/media/events/files/en/RosOySvLzGaJtmx2wYFv0lN4NSPZploG.pdf (33 pages)

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 23 2024 16:14 utc | 176

Reminder :
SunofAlabama is Derek Henry et.al.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 18:38 utc | 177

@Exile | Oct 23 2024 18:38 utc, re: Derek Henry.
Exile, that name “Derek Henry” means nothing to me; can you spell out the significance of your remark?
At the moment, I’m seeing Sun as a fairly well-informed, reasonable sort of person that’s trying to share his knowledge.
Please steer me straight if you’ve got facts to the contrary.
Thanks.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 23 2024 19:46 utc | 178

A great article covering the cost spiral of the utterly captured and corrupt US Defence Department contracting, purchasing and monitoring processes. Run for the profit benefit of a handful of large contractors. Resulting in less and less weapons for more and more money:
Welcome to the defense death spiral: At the current spending rate, in another generation we will have a lot of rich contractors and no aircraft or Naval fleets to speak of

Posted by: Roger | Oct 23 2024 20:21 utc | 179

Significant.
Humpty Dumpty or showing true colours? Follow the money. Or compromat.
‘🇸🇦🇺🇸 Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is currently holding a meeting with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, while notably absent from the BRICS Summit in Russia.
🔴@DDGeopolitics ‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 23 2024 20:37 utc | 180

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 23 2024 10:56 utc | 171
Well, it‘s a long time since the £ sterling has been gold-based, sterling silver (.992) is behind the promissory note for 10lbs that I have in my wallet, that the Chief Cashier appends his/her/its signature to, promising “to pay the bearer on demand the sum of”… 10 lbs of sterling silver of course! Should I try to redeem this promise one day?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 23 2024 20:38 utc | 181

Re: milking the DoD
25 years ago the company I worked for was “asked” to bid on a contract to supply the USN a specific machine. Private Customers would pay around $2 million. We didn’t want to win the contract, so we bid $8 million. We won the contract.
Eventual cost to Taxpayer after changes, upgrades, etc., etc. $20 million

Posted by: Exile | Oct 23 2024 20:49 utc | 182

Heh, I’ve just checked, and one of the 10lbs promissory notes in my wallet has the fizzog of King Wingnut The 1st printed on it; he doesn’t look very happy…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 23 2024 21:04 utc | 183

Roger@180….the only reason it’s spiraling is they currently are civilian contracts and even many contractors in the commercial side of business are having cost overrun issues along with supply and demand issues.
Easy peasy fix. Declare war. All those contractors will be forced to eat any short term profits and supply everything the Government wants at cost. Just as they always do.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 23 2024 21:55 utc | 184

Bit of a larf, so many people hung up on money they don’t even own. Gubmint put ya’ll on the street in the blink of an eye should the need arise……the question for the day after…..are you a serf, or a slave? Wee bits of paper, to the government, they can devalue, set value, erase, any time the choose.
Livin’ the dream……
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 23 2024 22:04 utc | 185

In many ways, the mentality of “cheerleaders” for sports teams or national teams at events like the Olympics mirrors the kind of blind loyalty and tribalism we see in extreme online rhetoric. Just as sports fans can become fiercely attached to their teams, regardless of the reality of their performance or actions, some online commentators take a similar approach in their social and political stances. This “cheerleading” mentality doesn’t allow for objectivity—it becomes less about facts and more about emotional loyalty to one side, with little room for balanced analysis or self-reflection.
In its extreme, this mindset can resemble bigoted social norms or even racism, where the value of an opinion, action, or person is judged solely by which “team” they’re on. Just as a sports fan might dismiss all evidence of their team’s flaws, those engaging in one-sided online arguments often reject any facts or nuanced discussion that might contradict their views. This polarizing approach sidesteps reasoned debate and objective analysis in favor of uncritical support for their chosen “side.” It’s not about understanding complex issues but rather defending a position, no matter the evidence to the contrary, creating a space where balanced discussion is nearly impossible.

Posted by: Walt Hui | Oct 24 2024 1:49 utc | 186

This analogy perfectly captures the frustrating reality of expecting rational, clean debate in the chaos of online forums. It’s like stepping into a public swimming pool and hoping none of the kids are going to pee in it—optimistic, but highly unlikely. That’s what we’re up against when we expect meaningful, fact-based discussions without the usual “trolling” or knee-jerk reactions. Hope only gets you so far! LOL.

Posted by: Walt Hui | Oct 24 2024 1:53 utc | 187

Posted by: Roger | Oct 23 2024 20:21 utc | 180
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P & I
US arms dealers witness ‘record profits’ from Israel’s year-long genocide in Gaza, war on Lebanon
By The Cradle News Desk

Must be lucky coincidence !
Just an unexpected ‘byproduct’ of the war the US was dragged kicking and screaming into !

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2024 3:34 utc | 188

MOATS, Ep 389 with George Galloway
https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1849147638807204027
“Building BRICS 2024.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 24 2024 5:01 utc | 189

Kazan Declaration download ==> static.kremlin.ru/media/events/files/en/RosOySvLzGaJtmx2wYFv0lN4NSPZploG.pdf

Posted by: too scents | Oct 24 2024 5:28 utc | 190

fixed URL ==> http://static.kremlin.ru/media/events/files/en/RosOySvLzGaJtmx2wYFv0lN4NSPZploG.pdf

Posted by: too scents | Oct 24 2024 5:29 utc | 191

@ Complicated | Oct 24 2024 4:00 utc | 191 and others about the finance aspects of BRICS+2024
I am not reading about the replacement for SWIFT, am I/we?
The BRICS Cross-Border Payments Initiative (BCBPI) seems to be a country to country interfacing of banking systems to facilitate enabling settlements in local currencies which maybe separate from BRICS Clear……[NOT-clear to me]
The BRICS Clear initiative is the feasibility of establishment of an independent cross-border settlement and depositary infrastructure….a replacement for the BIS
The New Development Bank (NDB) will remain neutered until it can exist based on a new Reserve Currency.
I am not seeing earth shaking news here and don’t see these announcements as roiling the dollar hegemony….yet.
Lots of work yet to do for the BRICS folks to replace the God Of Mammon cult of global private finance architecture and then establish the new money for the NDB to re-launch with……movement to a value based money from private fiat/global debt will be VERY messy.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2024 5:49 utc | 192

Lots of work yet to do for the BRICS folks to replace the God Of Mammon
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2024 5:49 utc | 195

Yeah. The Kazan Declaration was more concerned with growth than it was with conservation.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 24 2024 6:07 utc | 193

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2024 5:49 utc | 195
A complicated business. They are choosing to move slowly because they have no other choice in my opinion.
Meanwhile their systems for creating more bureaucracy keeps growing. Any settlements systems will require another major new BRICS bureaucracy and 24/7 operations. It all costs money to set up which must come from the member states in some form. Could it be they are already confronted with the problems involved in ‘herding cats’?

Posted by: Michael | Oct 24 2024 6:14 utc | 194

JUST IN: BRICS officially adds 13 new nations to the alliance as partner countries (not full members).
🇩🇿 Algeria
🇧🇾 Belarus
🇧🇴 Bolivia
🇨🇺 Cuba
🇮🇩 Indonesia
🇰🇿 Kazakhstan
🇲🇾 Malaysia
🇳🇬 Nigeria
🇹🇭 Thailand
🇹🇷 Turkey
🇺🇬 Uganda
🇺🇿 Uzbekistan
🇻🇳 Vietnam

Posted by: Michael | Oct 24 2024 8:49 utc | 195

BRICS Expands: Adds New “Partner” Countries
Furthermore, Thirteen countries are holding consultations on obtaining the status of a BRICS partner state, Kremlin Aide Yury Ushakov said to Tass Russian state media. Yury Ushakov noted, “because it will be necessary to discuss with them how ready they are for full-fledged or any other BRICS membership.”
According to Ushakov, the issue of obtaining the status of a partner country is “a subject of consultations between delegations, it will be considered by the leaders” of the BRICS states, TASS also reported.
In addition, it is important to differentiate between BRICS members and BRICS partners. Unlike a BRICS partner, official members possess voting rights in bloc affairs; full participation in summits and meetings; and complete commitment and representation of the bloc. BRICS partners are only allowed selective engagement and participation in BRICS affairs; as well as remaining participants in other international initiatives without full commitment to BRICS. However, all of the new BRICS partners do have potential to become full members in the future.
However, they are just not being inducted right away for certain reasons only known to the bloc.

Posted by: Michael | Oct 24 2024 8:52 utc | 196

It’s the end of the thread, I can post something like this I figure. I think these two stories are related —
Halifax Walmart worker was found dead inside bakery oven, police confirm
https://globalnews.ca/news/10824009/maritime-sikhs-society-halifax-walmart-workplace-death/
From the Daily Mail: Spirit Airlines passengers freak out after noticing unwanted traveler onboard flight from Dallas to Los Angeles
Spoiler – It was a rodent. They chew wires apparently.
I was actually consulting with the Mail for a possible link to this investigative report from CTV News, W5:
Heists, arson and a baseball bat brawl: the violent side of clothing donation bins
It’s four part investigation into the seedy underbelly of the lucrative clothing donation bin industry, with allegations the industry is rife with organized crime activity.
Clothing donation bins, for real!

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 24 2024 10:26 utc | 197

@psychohistorian | Oct 24 2024 5:49 utc
Paychohistorian – great comments, some of which need clarification or rebuttal, follows below sorta point-by-point. Cheers.
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PH: I am not reading about the replacement for SWIFT, am I/we?
Tom: Apparently that is in-progress. See Distributed Cross Border Messaging System (DCMS). Looks like a well-designed major increment over SWIFT. I’ll discuss this in more detail in next week’s Open Thread.
PH: The BRICS Cross-Border Payments Initiative (BCBPI) seems to be a country to country interfacing of banking systems to facilitate enabling settlements in local currencies which maybe separate from BRICS Clear……[NOT-clear to me]
PH: The BRICS Clear initiative is the feasibility of establishment of an independent cross-border settlement and depositary infrastructure….a replacement for the BIS
Tom: My first read of it is that CLEAR is about the characterization/classification of financial instruments, and the easing of origination and trade (e.g. the “making of markets”) in financial instruments not denominated in dollars or other dominant currencies. Most of the world’s financial flows in and out of countries is in the form of financial instruments, rather than trade transactions. I’ll look into this, and report on it later.
PH: The New Development Bank (NDB) will remain neutered until it can exist based on a new Reserve Currency.
Tom: Why “neutered”? NDB raises capital in “hard” and “soft or local” currencies. It’s got a great credit rating, resulting in a low cost of capital. It invests via “hard” currencies and in local currencies (since it can raise local-currency capital in the locales it invests in). NDB is a customer-centric, sophisticated, distributed with branches in member countries bank that invests strategically in hi-impact sectors and only in the in the member-countries. Apparently, it’s getting pretty good at it, too. It’s got good balance sheet, lotsa loans, happy customers, good credit rating, can raise capital in a lot of (fairly sophisticated) ways. It’s a good show. I’ll report on this more later. For now, see NDB’s strategy statement.
PH: I am not seeing earth shaking news here and don’t see these announcements as roiling the dollar hegemony….yet.
Tom: I see earth-shaking news. Right programs, right people, enough funding and commitment to build some (more) successes, fairly well-defined sequence of components to build (e.g. project architecture), right technical capacity. Nothing like it has ever been done – even at _this_ early point in its devel cycle.
PH: Lots of work yet to do for the BRICS folks to replace the God Of Mammon cult of global private finance architecture and then establish the new money for the NDB to re-launch with……movement to a value based money from private fiat/global debt will be VERY messy.
Tom: BRICS is sorting out that mess admirably well. The wars are all about preventing this from happening, and its happening anyway even in the teeth of intensive war and the most distracting, divisive, coercive &(*!#-storm the West can deliver. Freakin’ phenomenal.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 24 2024 14:45 utc | 198

I know, we’ve moved on to a new thread, but I just wanted to post a quick follow-up to my @ 200, about the Daily Mail’s report on the unwanted traveller on the flight from Dallas to LA ( which was a wire-chewing rodent)
Check this one out, with the photo: “Mel Gibson’s brutal take on Kamala Harris’ intelligence as rarely-seen Braveheart star spotted in Los Angeles”
Keeping it Commonwealth, I presume?!? Who is this, I wonder…
Excerpt
“The Braveheart star emphasized that he does not discriminate and believes he shouldn’t be judged for the reprehensible comments he made while under the influence.
It was also noted in the police report that at one point Mel noticed a female officer, and shouted at her: ‘What do you think you’re looking at, sugar t*ts?’
In his apology letter to the Anti-Defamation League, he wrote: ‘There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of Anti-Semitic remark.
‘I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was arrested on a DUI charge.’”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Oct 25 2024 10:28 utc | 199