Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 5, 2024
The ‘Birth Pangs’ Of The New Middle East May Not Be The Ones The U.S. Has Wished For

Edward Luce for the FT:

How Netanyahu is ‘running rings’ around Biden (archived)
The US president had hoped to disentangle from the Middle East. But the turbulence in the region could influence the election and define his legacy

“Netanyahu knows how to play the Washington game better than most US politicians,” says Alon Pinkas, a former Israeli diplomat, now columnist for the Haaretz newspaper. “And he has been running rings around Biden.”

On countless occasions over the past year, Netanyahu has appeared to agree to one thing with Washington and done the opposite in practice. Whether it is wranglings over the terms of a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release, or the more recent attempt at a 21-day ceasefire with Hizbollah, each time Biden is left looking impotent. “The Biden administration seems to be saying, ‘We’re suffering from a bit of autumn damp,’ ” says Pinkas. “No, this isn’t seasonal damp, it’s Netanyahu urinating all over you.

This has been the general theme of a media campaign for a while. "Natanyahoo is steamrolling Biden and the poor guy can do nothing about it."

I do not buy it. One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel. Without constant supply renewal the Israeli Air Force would have to stop its bombing campaigns in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen within days if not within hours.

But instead of calling the Pentagon the whole Middle East team around Biden, Antony Blinken, Brett McGurk and IDF soldier Amos Hochstein, has been urging Israel to extend its campaign.

They are hoping, like the neoconservatives in 2006 during the Bush administration, for the 'birth pangs of a new Middle East', which will forever change the strategic situation on the ground.

Behind the scenes, Hochstein, McGurk and other top U.S. national security officials are describing Israel’s Lebanon operations as a history-defining moment — one that will reshape the Middle East for the better for years to come.

The thinking goes: Israel has obliterated Hezbollah’s top command structure in Lebanon, severely undercutting the group’s capabilities and weakened Iran, which used Hezbollah as a proxy and power projector.

The internal administration division seems to have dissipated somewhat in recent days, with top U.S. officials convening Monday at the White House with President Joe Biden to discuss the situation on the ground. Most agreed that the conflict, while fragile, could offer an opportunity to reduce Iran’s influence in Lebanon and the region.

The conclusion from this is that Netanyahoo is largely doing exactly what the Biden administration wants him to do.

The strategic situation may well change. But it is not going to be the way Biden and Netanyahoo may hope for.

Most of the 200 missiles Iran fired on Israel two days ago passed through the Israeli air defenses and hit their targets with good precision. Some expensive air planes got damaged but no one was hurt. A similar strike on Israeli energy facilities could easily disable the country for months of years to come. A strike on IDF barracks or Israeli population centers could easily cause mass casualties.

Shortly after the strike President Masoud Pezeshkian met with Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud in Doha, Qatar:

The Saudi minister voiced his country's determination to develop relations with Iran, Xinhua news agency reported.

"We seek to close the page of differences between the two countries forever and work towards the resolution of our issues and expansion of our relations like two friendly and brotherly states," he said.

He highlighted the "very sensitive and critical" situation in West Asia due to Israel's "aggressions" against Gaza and Lebanon and its attempts to expand the conflict in the region. He said Saudi Arabia trusted Iran's wisdom and discernment in managing the situation and contributing to the restoration of calm and peace in the region.

Yesterday the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, held Friday prayers in Tehran. Little remarked in western media was the fact that he sermon was largely voiced in Arabic and that the whole event was seen on Arabic live TV through AlJazeerah.

This already is a new Middle East in which the Gulf states are no longer hostile to Iran and which the religious schisms between Sunni and Shia has largely lost its power.

Who then is left of the former U.S. allies? On whom can it call for support in the region when it plans to attack Iran?

Has this whole U.S.-Israeli campaign really helped to "reduce Iran’s influence in Lebanon and the region"? Will continuing it ever do so?

My impression for one is that it has strengthened the front against Israel and the positions of Iran in and beyond the Middle East.

Comments

It’s hilarious that the US still has no hypersonic missile capability.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2024 16:28 utc | 7

And it is even much more hilarious that they cannot bring back to Earth 3 cosmonauts stuck inside the ISS. Where is the Saturn V spaceship?
ROTHFL
The lies are exploding on their faces.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2024 19:34 utc | 101

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:23 utc | 96

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 19:36 utc | 102

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:23 utc | 96

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 19:36 utc | 103

@ mark #96
As an american, I think caldre has the US nailed. This country was founded on genocide and ethnic cleansing and built with slavery and indentured servitude. The founders were not just patriarchal racists but also distrusted the majority and created a system deigned to keep the oligarchy in power.

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 19:38 utc | 104

malenkov | Oct 5 2024 18:50 utc | 85
CalDre asks a good question: “What has Israel ever done to benefit the US?

Looks like we have yet another non-American pontificating about the “indispensable nation”.
The number #1 benefit occupied Palestine provides to the homeland is ensuring a continuous flow of oil to both N America and Europe.
Now, I can expect to see all sorts of claims about how it would be better to rely on mutually beneficial trading relationships, but once again you don’t understand how the USA operates. (The culture, the psyche of a settler nation.)
We don’t do cooperation; rather, we’re into domination. I mean really, this entire conversation is a bit of a waste of time if you don’t understand that one simple fact.
Better if everyone watch the Hudson/Wolff interview Karlof1 keeps linking. They clearly explain what is happening today dates to strategic decisions made in the 70s, but in fact reach further back to at least the 30s, if not earlier.

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:38 utc | 105

And it is even much more hilarious that they cannot bring back to Earth 3 cosmonauts stuck inside the ISS. Where is the Saturn V spaceship?
Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2024 19:34 utc | 102
Well, they’d have to beg the Russians…😏

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:39 utc | 106

cause if the Iranian missiles are accurate (as they really are) all the US garrisons in the ME, with many thousands of soldiers and saylor are at risk if US help Occupied Palestine to attack Iran, as they have promised to do.
Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 19:27 utc | 98
That was established at Al Asad base when the Iranians put bullseye strikes on every target.
Iow, That bus left the station years ago.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 19:41 utc | 107

Sorry, my bad, “Enter” has different functions in different fields.
But anyway:
First they came for the Jews,
And I said nothing, for I was not Jewish,
Then they came for the Americans,
And I said nothing, for I was not American,
Then, after that,
Everyone got along just fine,
Trading profitably and equitably with each other…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 19:41 utc | 108

I don’t think Iran fired at the offshore gas platforms. They seemed pretty clear about what targets they went after. Did I miss it that they said they did?
Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 5 2024 19:28 utc | 99
They did not.
There was a sub hiding in a bunker deep under the oil rig using it as a “oil rig shield”. They had to eliminate the threat from the sub. The rig was collateral damage.

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 19:42 utc | 109

I’m typing this as F16s are making their first appearance of the day. There should be at least 1m people watching over the weekend, cheering and feeling a rush of patriotism as “our boys” demonstrate why we’re #1.
If you don’t get this, if you don’t understand this essential aspect of ‘Murica, then global events will appear as an undirected malignant force.

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:46 utc | 110

Absolutely agree with b that the media spin–even by some on alt-media–is wrong and misdirecting. As an antidote to that and more, as I did yesterday, I very strenuously suggest watching the latest Dialog Works podcast with Hudson and Wolff. The Zionists are an appendage of the Outlaw US Empire, the spear-tip of its Terrorist Foreign Legion, and was designed to be that.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 16:23 utc | 4
I’m still waiting for Hudson to even address the devastating critique of Johnstone. I have a feeling this will never happen. I guess he has a job to look after.

A reader suggests: “Some folks may find it emotionally and psychologically comforting to blame The Lobby and Israel for the evil of U.S. foreign policy, and somehow the good ol USA is an unwitting victim.”
Can’t we more accurately suggest: “Some folks may find it emotionally and psychologically comforting to blame the U.S. foreign policy for everything rather than risk the inevitable furious reactions to any mention of the Lobby and Israel?”

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 19:47 utc | 111

It’s starting to come apart …
“If you want to destroy my sweater (whoa, oh, oh)
Hold this thread as I walk away (as I walk away)
Watch me unravel, I’ll soon be naked
Lying on the floor (lying on the floor)
I’ve come undone”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 18:07 utc | 63
Weezer lyrics from Love. You’re always surprising me, old boy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 19:48 utc | 112

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:46 utc | 111
F-16s? F-35s not working properly then?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 19:48 utc | 113

finishing…
That dualist mentality of the US was ripe for usurping by a clever, albeit evil and sadistic, small group whose whole religion is based on seeing others as subhuman. They managed to infiltrate and control the government, law, media and mindset.
Back in 1948, there was an entire block of the government, specifically military and ‘intelligence’ community, completely opposed to 181. I can’t remember which general said it but how true it was: ‘what’s good for israel is bad for the US’.

Posted by: motroslug | Oct 5 2024 19:48 utc | 114

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 18:54 utc | 87
Would be safe to say that at the core us/isreal are the two sides of the zionist coin taking turns as the tail and the dog? Is that the idea? Again thanks for all you do.
It was originally you psycho and grieved, and your writings here that attracted me here. So thanks again. Peace good sir

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 5 2024 19:50 utc | 115

Markw @9 96

Thanks for confirming you’re not an American – you know nothing about this country, its history, its culture, its motivations nor desires.

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Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 19:50 utc | 116

Posted by: Naive | Oct 5 2024 19:34 utc | 102
Saturn V was never intended for the low orbit of ISS.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 5 2024 19:53 utc | 117

Like the jews before them, they are becoming completely Americanized. Their children and grandchildren will happily take over the reins of exceptionalism, including genociding anyone who gets in the way of full spectrum dominance.
Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 18:36 utc | 76
No they won’t.
The fuckery the empire gets up to is essentially an Anglo Zionist/ European phenomenon.
If the reigns ever pass to the Chinese or Indian émigrés the entire imperial enterprise will collapse because the essential cultural psychopathy will no longer exist.
As it is at the sunset of every empire …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 19:55 utc | 118

The hard reality is that the US political elite will go against the interests of US imperialism itself for Israel and Israelis. To this end, it’s totally ruined it’s own international reputation by supporting genocide. Now, it’s ready to waste more treasure and reputation on a losing war to defeat Iran, which will send oil prices and price inflation through the roof.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 16:35 utc | 13
This is absolutely correct.

Our questioning of that expression is directed primarily at pro-Palestinian friends, usually on the left who accept and spread the belief that Israel is a U.S. “strategic asset,” usually meaning it contributes to U.S. control of Middle East oil.
This assumption is often based on the notion that a capitalist power must act in its own economic interest, and thus could not be fooled by ideology or bribery into acting against its own interests.

https://consortiumnews.com/2024/03/12/the-debate-over-israel-as-us-aircraft-carrier/

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 19:56 utc | 119

Let’s see what happens, when Netanyahu shoots his catapult at Iran. 😏

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:57 utc | 120

Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 19:50 utc | 117
Excellent! Landlord, a drink at the bar for this poster!
Love the old-school ASCII art, though in some younger days it was put to rather more [ahem] earthy uses…
Could almost be the nose-on view of an F-35…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 19:57 utc | 121

LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 18:13 utc | 66

🇮🇷 #Iran destroyed the most expensive US radar 🇺🇲
🇮🇷This radar can detect very small birds measuring five centimeters at a distance of three thousand kilometers.
This radar was completely camouflaged, but it was detected by Iran’s intelligence

Did you look at the SECOND X file after the one you posted? Frankly even more exciting as it is the ICJ declaring that “israel” is illegal, and the land should be left to the Palestinian people. There is now an obligation of the UN and Nations that belong to it, to exclude “Israel”
https://x.com/samad_khaledi/status/1842624298407858518
Note; not seen anywheere else at the moment.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 5 2024 19:58 utc | 122

If the reigns ever pass to the Chinese or Indian émigrés the entire imperial enterprise will collapse because the essential cultural psychopathy will no longer exist.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 19:55 utc | 119
True!👌

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:59 utc | 123

Look
in English
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny
Heavily monitored and edited by the ‘Holy Inquisition’ (so that children do not connect the dots): the connection with Zionism does not appear
in others
Less watched over appears the historical truth: The doctrine of Manifest Destiny is chemically pure Zionism

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 20:00 utc | 124

This radar can detect very small birds measuring five centimeters at a distance of three thousand kilometers.
Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 5 2024 19:58 utc | 123
If it was actually operated in that mode it would be almost useless given the sheer volume of noise and false positives.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 20:03 utc | 125

🚨WW3 Alert: Iran just closed it’s airspace in anticipation of full blown war with Israel!
Something big is about to happen.

Aussie Cossack with air traffic graphic

🇺🇸🇮🇱⚔️🇮🇷 Unconfirmed reports: The Tehran Metro has stopped its service – no reason provided.
The underground subway can then be used as shelter.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:03 utc | 126

Stop with the toxic antisemitism.
Zionists include Jews and non Jews.
Many Jews are not zionists.
All you’re doing is helping Israel.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:04 utc | 127

Posted by: ld | Oct 5 2024 18:52 utc | 86
My previous comment about antisemitism was aimed at ld.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:05 utc | 128

@ jab
Palestinians and arabs are semites too so how is anything posted here antisemitic?

Posted by: motroslug | Oct 5 2024 20:05 utc | 129

Many Jews are not zionists.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:04 utc | 128
First define “Jew,” then define “many.”

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:06 utc | 130

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:04 utc | 128
But the IDF is being antisemitic by attacking and killing the Palestinian Semites.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 20:07 utc | 131

Note; not seen anywheere else at the moment.
Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 5 2024 19:58 utc | 123
#########
I did see that. I am trying to be careful that what I post is verified.
If true, it continues this string of very bad days the Zionist occupation is experiencing.
I haven’t seen it mentioned here today but Macron is under a lot of domestic pressure from Jean-Luc Mélenchon to stop supporting Israel, leading Macron to announce that he was suspending arms deliveries, and one Israeli (Energy?) minister started threatening him, and Bibi claimed “We can win this without the French” (paraphrasing).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:07 utc | 132

My previous comment about antisemitism was aimed at ld.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:05 utc | 129
Understand. His post stinks of Nazi perversion of factual events.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:09 utc | 133

The Meteorological Organization and Seismology – one of the formations of the Ministry of Transport – announced on Saturday a recording of an earthquake on the Iraqi-Iranian border.
“Seismic observatories recorded an earthquake on the Iraqi-Iranian border. The earthquake is 22 km from the Iraqi border, and 40 km from Halabcha district, Sulaymaniyah Governorate,” said the media office of the Organization in a statement – received by the Iraqi News Agency – INA.
 
The statement added that “the earthquake was felt by the ones living near it,” calling on “citizens to stay away from rumors, false news and adhere to seismic instructions.”
https://ina.iq/eng/35329-mot-an-earthquake-on-the-iraqi-iranian-border.html

Nuclear test?

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 5 2024 20:09 utc | 134

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 20:04 utc | 128
#########
Please don’t mention antisemitism. You clearly do not understand what a Semite is.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:10 utc | 135

In other words you know that whenever someone actually uses the term “Judeo-Bolshevism” that fucker is too long gone to reason with.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:10 utc | 136

That was established at Al Asad base when the Iranians put bullseye strikes on every target.
Iow, That bus left the station years ago.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 19:41 utc | 108
Indeed
Al Udeid is even closer, and at closer distance the CEP diminish accodingly, there are even closer bases from Iran, and in the case of Irak and Syrian bases the axis of resistante only need to use barrages after barrages of heavy rockets, helped by thousands of IRGC “volunteers” embedded with them ready for this from many years ago. probably they will overrun some of them quickly and take POW.
If the puppet government of Irak try to stop the attacks on the US bases, it will be disbanded like the Baath party, and many of he leaders and generals shot as traitors.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 20:11 utc | 137

Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 20:03 utc | 126
I wondered what they use it for. They don’t strike me as bird lovers. Maybe the new missiles chirp as they burp into the sky?
Don’t forget to look at the ICJ officals reading their statement. Comrehensive put down of Zionist ambitions, as Israel is now declared “Illegal”. By the way thanks for the 193 of last thread. Saved.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 5 2024 20:13 utc | 138

If the reigns ever pass to the Chinese or Indian émigrés the entire imperial enterprise will collapse because the essential cultural psychopathy will no longer exist.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 19:55 utc | 119
True!👌
Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:59 utc | 124
By that time the empire will be a shadow of its former economic, military and social power. Confounding variable! Besides, it’s failing for reasons other than European culture. Read Baud. The Protestants left long, long ago.
Western civilization has its good and bad points. Anyone who casts it as a total abortion is just ignorant, blind with anger or just racist themselves.
I suspect AB and Love are boomers. The most racially obsessed generation since the 30s.
That said, I agree with them both on almost everything. Nonetheless, on the race issue and philosophical issues like materialism, we are separated by a river of blood.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 20:14 utc | 139

An interesting discussion. But I’m with our host on this one: there is little tail wagging dog and mostly dog wagging tail here.
The question CalDre asks “What has Israel ever done to benefit the US” is an interesting one. The main issue I have with it is it assumes “benefiting the US” as in the people who live in the US is actually of concern to the rulers of the US. Unfortunately, as has been repeatedly shown, what the people want and their needs and general welfare is a very distant and unimportant concern to the rulers … witness the current situation in Carolina and Tennessee for a crushing example.
So, what does motivate our rulers (the servants of the owner class) every day? Profits for their owners … care and feeding of the owner class. Since WW2, the most important industries have been financial, mining and energy, and weapons. Chaos and war and convenient painted enemies are necessary for the transfer of middle and lower class taxes to upper class income.
As long as Jooz and Israel are convenient and useful for the prime purpose outlined above, they will be used, supported, and encouraged. If they become inconvenient and counter profitable, there will all of a sudden he stories about apartheid, racism, genocide, etc. in the media.

Posted by: Caliman | Oct 5 2024 20:15 utc | 140

Please don’t mention antisemitism. You clearly do not understand what a Semite is.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:10 utc | 136
Meanwhile you have such a clear head that you can’t possibly fathom how anyone but Evil Whitey can be a colonialist. How was it now, again? Japan? By the way, the only reason I didn’t mention Arab colonialism in Europe is that I consider the Arabs to be “white,” but that is the onus of the problem here. People using non-precise terms to define the world. No, “White Colonialism” never existed because it was never, ever a function of the perpetrating countries being White.
Now run. Again.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:18 utc | 141

“Israel is a U.S. “strategic asset””

This is a Yiddish joke
Palestinians would be a hundred thousand times better partners for the empire
The American taxpayer who pays for the bullets and bombs and sends his children to kill and die in the Ziocon wars … is a strategic asset for the Zionist, whether they live in the bloody biblical theme park, whether they live in California, Chicago, Miami or New YorK

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 20:19 utc | 142

Re karlof1 #4
While I agree that Hudson puts forward a great argument for the proposition that Zionism is the tip of the US spear that argument is far less convincing when one has read Douglas Reed’s Controversey of Zion in which he lays out the machinations that lead to the imposition of Israel on the Palestinian people. Those machinations include the wholesale subversion of US presidential power. I note also that the wholesale murder of entire populations is very much a Talmudic thing, not a supposedly Christian thing. I note also that the internal divisions within the US driven by a polity that is in power at the whim of Zionist backers is not in the interests of either the US or the “tip of its spear”. History is related with examples of the Talmudist cult parasitised a powerful regime and over reaching its influence for its own ends. It never ends well and it won’t this time either. Two powerful nations who have chosen meritocratic leadership over corrupted democracy are making bloody certain of that.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 5 2024 20:27 utc | 143

History is replete…

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 5 2024 20:28 utc | 144

I propose a different hypothesis to the bar…
Sometimes this was hinted by b and by other bar guests:
There is a hidden group of powerful people that use both US and EU and other vassals and Israel as their puppets actors.
It does not matter IF US/Empire will collapse or if Israel will collapse. It does not matter if the whole world is damaged.
If they can not hold and perpetuate that power over everyone and everything then everything can be destroyed and they will rebuild it later.
They have a “small problem” now with Russia / China / Iran and a few other disobedience.
But they think they can solve it by “whatever it takes” for as long as it takes or by WW3 if needed.
The actions of US and other actors look irrational because they serve those hidden masters interests and NOT the interest of US or Israel.

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 20:31 utc | 145

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 20:31 utc | 146
The actions of US and other actors look irrational because they serve those hidden masters interests and NOT the interest of US or Israel.

That’s a very unsatisfying way to go about it: we don’t understand something we observe; so we resort to “hidden factor X”. If you want to sound more credulous then you should try to make your “hidden group of powerful people” as visible as possible.
Myself, I don’t believe there’s a secret mastermind pulling the strings. I belong in the camp that political actions can be explained by self-interest and power distribution, and I think that the concept of class is useful.

Posted by: Konami | Oct 5 2024 20:37 utc | 146

Just an idle musing: where are Israel‘s national gold reserves held? Do they even have any?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 20:38 utc | 147

I ask all barflies: define Zionism.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 5 2024 18:32 utc | 74
There is a very clear definition of Zionism that is easily found.
A belief in Palestine/Israel area as homeland of the Jews/Israelites/Hebrews….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 20:38 utc | 148

That’s a very unsatisfying way to go about it: we don’t understand something we observe; so we resort to “hidden factor X”. If you want to sound more credulous then you should try to make your “hidden group of powerful people” as visible as possible.
Posted by: Konami | Oct 5 2024 20:37 utc | 147
Sigh… global Capital? Not necessarily beholden to any single nation state.
Cheers, by the way. I know you’re one of the good guys.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:39 utc | 149

To clarify my opinion,
This hidden group of powerful people is NOT US/Israel/UK or the City of London, NOT the WEF / gates, Bezos / MUSK Trump or Biden or Netanyaho or any 3 letter agencies or UK.
They are older than the Persian Empire. Intelligent cold and dark they control everybody and every aspect of the “western world”. Not controlling Russia and China and Iran is not acceptable.

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 20:40 utc | 150

According to the Wikipedia entry for titanium, it is abundant all over the earth.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 5 2024 20:41 utc | 151

RE: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:03 utc | 127
“Something big is about to happen.”
Or something small. Maybe a “deal”. Israel does fly-swatted strikes, shouts victory, and USReal goes back to genocide, and US Regime change machinations in Lebanon.
I see nothing favorable right now for USReal to go hard core.
It seems to me, it’s Iran, like Russia, that has the escalatory dominance atm.
The stock market is closed, so some strike and over b4 Monday again.
It appears, things atm much more in Irans favor, but neither side really wholly ready for WW3 in Middle East. I could be wrong, maybe Syria, Iraq & Yemen are ready.
Maybe US has decided it cannot “regime change” (btw many are reporting US wants to “hold elections” right now during invasion… recent vid on Al Hezeera about it) without a severely “weakened” Iran that is unable to support Hezbollah in Lebanon, and it looks like a slaughter of the population is what they gave in store for “regime change”, get rid of as many brown people as possible, import as many Europeans as possible, Jews or not, and proceed like they did with Native Americans, simply slaughter all of them.
Don’t think they want an Iraqi repeat, or Syrian, this time, regime change with wholly ethnically cleansed both Nations states and fill with white settlers.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 20:44 utc | 152

Clearly america is ocupied terrortory.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 5 2024 20:47 utc | 153

“There is a very clear definition of Zionism that is easily found.
A belief in Palestine/Israel area as homeland of the Jews/Israelites/Hebrews”

WTF
This is propaganda for the unwary or a simple scam or a wordplay by hair growth sellers
To begin with, the Hebrews were Arab tribes, Yahweh is an Arab deity as we know from various sources, and the great Temple was not built by a rabbi from Ukraine or Lituania but by an Arab king, Herod “the Great”, son of “the Idumean” and a princess from Petra
And to finish, Zionism is the ideology that says that in “the land of Canaan” there must be a dominant people and a subjugated population, “the people of the land” (“am ha’eretz”)
And we can see in “our colonial project” from the first massacres (1936-, 1947-) until today its empirical confirmation

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 20:48 utc | 154

🇮🇱⚔🇮🇷Israel to strike Iran in next 48 hours, — Washington Post
US troops in the Middle East have been ordered to be on high alert and to immediately take cover if necessary.
– RVvoenkor

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:49 utc | 155

France has now announced a halt to “offensive” weapons transfers to Israel.
It is possible Israel was given a green light for the decapatation strike against Hezbollah, in hopes of a decisive shock and awe “win” but it has proved ineffective, particularly since the hyped ground invasion can’t get past the border.All Israel has managed since then is more air strikes against defenceless soft targets. Pathetic. Does the Pentagon cancel or vastly reduce the planned Iran strike? The Americans are not at all prepared at this time for the consequences of a large attack.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 5 2024 20:50 utc | 156

bog | Oct 5 2024 20:31 utc | 146
There is a powerful group or class that make the decisions in the west. Hardly hidden though. They will sit on the boards of major companies, those that have huge personal wealth, families with huge wealth. They are the decision makers.
Mostly in London and New York/US
At the moment, oil is the strategic target. Oil supplies, oil prices – Gaining a strategic position in oil is now the game for the US in this hybrid war.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 20:51 utc | 157

🇷🇺🇮🇷 Reports: Russia sends S-400 air defense systems to Iran, which is considered a killer of American F-35 fighters.

I saw 4 units mentioned in the last 24 hours. Maybe more, maybe less.
Regardless, pro-Israel people are very proud of their ability to bomb with impunity. It would be a real wakeup call if Israel lost a few planes in an attack on Iran.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:52 utc | 158

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 20:31 utc | 146
The actions of US and other actors look irrational because they serve those hidden masters interests and NOT the interest of US or Israel.
That’s a very unsatisfying way to go about it: we don’t understand something we observe; so we resort to “hidden factor X”. If you want to sound more credulous then you should try to make your “hidden group of powerful people” as visible as possible.
Myself, I don’t believe there’s a secret mastermind pulling the strings. I belong in the camp that political actions can be explained by self-interest and power distribution, and I think that the concept of class is useful.
Posted by: Konami | Oct 5 2024 20:37 utc | 147
Well they are hidden because this way you can not defeat them since you do not know who they are. Even if they “loose” you can not hunt them down and they will not pay the price of defeat.
The concept of class is useful indeed but, it is only one of many/few things that they “dislike”.
There are other thinks they dislike like rising of other powerful state actors in the world.
They fear nothing however and they have huge experience, intelligence and a powerful culture also hidden from general population.
It makes sense that a group of powerful people will self organize to propagate this power over time. Esp if they has a lot of time to do it.
They own all politics in western world but not in Russia and China

Posted by: bog | Oct 5 2024 20:52 utc | 159

Lysias | Oct 5 2024 20:41 utc | 152
Virtually everything is. The only limiting factor is extraction costs. Extraction cost vs demand.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 20:53 utc | 160

“my naivete was believing in the law. When push comes to shove, laws are just pieces of paper, and they can be reinterpreted for political expediency.”

Posted by: hightrekker | Oct 5 2024 20:53 utc | 161

Bibi on Macron halting offensive weapons deliveries, “What a disgrace. Israel will win, with or without their support.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:56 utc | 162

Is the State of Israel preparing its population as a burnt sacrifice offered whole to God – holokauston? What would be the meaning of such an act?
Christians know that by crucifixion sacrificial religion has been exposed, it has been made null and void, powerless – it is not God who needs or wants such sacrifice, God’s people do not make such sacrifices.
So a state, offering nothing but death to itself and its neighbours, stands not with God.

Posted by: js | Oct 5 2024 20:57 utc | 163

Reportedly Bibi to Macron,
“Israel will win with or without you – your shame will resonate long after Israel’s victory.”
I am a big believer that the more shrill people become, the more desperate they are.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:58 utc | 164

Bibi on Macron halting offensive weapons deliveries, “What a disgrace. Israel will win, with or without their support.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:56 utc | 164
The bastard needs to boil to death in shit.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 20:59 utc | 165

“Russia sends S-400 air defense systems to Iran”

I’ll believe it when i see it
(I’m fed up with cheap Russian propaganda)

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 21:00 utc | 166

(I’m fed up with cheap Russian propaganda)
Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 21:00 utc | 168
############
Who are you and why should Dmitry Medvedev care?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 21:04 utc | 167

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 19:38 utc | 105
As a US citizen who’s english relatives came over in the 1600’s and German side around 1850 (prior to the civil war) through New Orleans, you are ignorant of history. Were we perfect? No! But don’t cherry pick your facts. We beat the Party of Venice / City of London’s prime entity, the East India Company. They have hated us every since. They have taken over DC. Yes! But if you ain’t willing to fight, just shut up. I have been fighting them since the late 60’s. What is your rewsume?

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Oct 5 2024 21:04 utc | 168

Once again today there were about 25 of us supporting Palestine in front of the local courthouse. The Ukraine supporters (half dozen) were back at the other end of the block after being gone for a couple of weeks. And today we had an Occupied Palestine supporter telling us to remember 10/7/2023 like that was when history began.
I will report that the positive support from those going by was significantly increased over past weeks….maybe 10% increase.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 5 2024 21:07 utc | 169

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 20:10 utc | 136
I was reacting to one particular anti-semitic rant from lb about jews, jews, jews, jews.
Of course I know what a semite is. Don’t be an ass.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 21:09 utc | 170

The Turks know which side the future is buttered.
The worst thing is a lot of us saw it coming and were treated like crazy people at best for talking about it. Putin Bot. Anti-Semite, Communist.
So Apple loves that child labor cobalt it buys from China. Normalized every time someone buys an Iphone.
Pepe says Chinese are moral people. How old is he?
You get 7 years for protesting in Russia. The Church used as a whip just like under the Czars.
Educated people who should know better posing with icons of oppression.
They’re robots. Automatronic suicide.
Anybody notice our standard of living?

Posted by: Rabbit. That one. | Oct 5 2024 21:10 utc | 171

“Who are you”

An old yehudi fed up with lies, tired of scammers, they have been lying to me since i was 5 years old, it has cost me a lot of time and money to get out of my cave, as if now i have to go back to the mental kindergarten and believe in the cyber volunteers from Moscow, come on man

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 21:11 utc | 172

Yemen was bombed by the British and Americans today..Putin did not prevent any of that.i have been saying that for last 25 years Putin has refused to help allies and potential allies-all to please anglos.he rebuffed Chaven of Venezuela’s offer to have Russian base in Venezuela in fact Russians made fun of caves on that. He refused s300 to Iran in order to get WTO access .shamelessly he said that he did not give s300 to Iran as he did not want to upset israelie advantage in middle east!+;
With such treacherous ally like Russia, no wonder Russia is left

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:11 utc | 173

Of course I know what a semite is. Don’t be an ass.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 21:09 utc | 172
He can’t help it. Don’t worry, though. If you humiliate him enough he will start avoiding you like the plague.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 21:12 utc | 174

I’ll believe it when i see it

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 21:12 utc | 175

According to the Wikipedia entry for titanium, it is abundant all over the earth. Posted by: Lysias | Oct 5 2024 20:41 utc | 152
It is but its the Russians who seem to be in the lead in turning it into castings in particular. Both Boeing and Airbus are major buyers in Russia. At one stage Boeing had an estimated 1000 employees in Moscow. The center section of a Tu-160 is probably the largest and most complex casting yet and Russia has just recreated that process, having let it fade away post Cold War.

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 5 2024 21:12 utc | 176

Iran and Russia
Written in 2006.
 Russia Does NOT REALIZE THAT IF EVER IRAN IS ATTACKED AND DEFEATED BY USA THEN RUSSIA WILL LOSE ALL STATUS AND PRESTIGE OF EVEN THIRD RATE Power INT HE WORLD AND THEN NO COUNTRY WILL BE Willing TO BE ON SIDE OF Russia Because EVERYONE WANTS TO BE WITH A STRONG Country WHO CAN ORDER AND MANAGE THE AGENDA AS AMERICA IS TRYING TO DO AND THEN RUSSIA WILL BE =DESTROYED AS IS THE VERY INSTEDSION OF USA?
RUSSIA MUST NOT LET USA Score ANY MORE POINT ANYWHERE LET ALONE IN IRAN OTHERWISE RUSSIA IS FINISHED EVEN AS A COUNTRY .
 
 
=========================================================================
 
iran and russia.
 
If russia foolishly stop busher plant work or does not support iran a=verses the west then russia will be doomed as well because then resurgent west ,which has ben plotting against russia too,will have encircled and weakened russia.and russia will have no friend to look to when it is under pressure from the west.
therefore russia must support all the countries who have stood against angloamerican evil -only by this method russia and other countries can maintain their independence.
Written in 2006.

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:13 utc | 177

DEFINE ZIONISM? ARE YOU SERIOUS? It was and is a Party Of Venice/City of London construct.
The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917.
Immediately following Britain’s declaration of war on the Ottoman Empire in November 1914, it began to consider the future of Palestine. Within two months a memorandum was circulated to the War Cabinet by a Zionist member, Herbert Samuel, proposing the support of Zionist ambitions in order to enlist the support of Jews in the wider war. A committee was established in April 1915 by British Prime Minister H. H. Asquith to determine their policy towards the Ottoman Empire including Palestine. Asquith, who had favoured post-war reform of the Ottoman Empire, resigned in December 1916; his replacement David Lloyd George favoured partition of the Empire. The first negotiations between the British and the Zionists took place at a conference on 7 February 1917 that included Sir Mark Sykes and the Zionist leadership. Subsequent discussions led to Balfour’s request, on 19 June, that Rothschild and Chaim Weizmann submit a draft of a public declaration. Further drafts were discussed by the British Cabinet during September and October, with input from Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews but with no representation from the local population in Palestine.

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Oct 5 2024 21:13 utc | 178

At the local rally, the usual support chants for Palestine were extended to Libanon, Yemen, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
These times are more depressing than usual because there’s so little we can do on our own but I did notice some cracks in mainstream media coverage: Germany’s hard-line pro-Israel media did the usual stuff: “good Israel bombs, bad Iran rockets”, “defence/terrorism” and so on, and they displayed single cases of human tragedies from Gaza without any context. This seems to open up a little, probably because the horrible pictures are on everybody’s screens anyway. Of course, Germany is also the country where six police abusers hunt a boy with a Palestina flag (that’s verboten, as is “From the river to the sea”). The lesson from the last genocide is too 100% support the next one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPuBmHdzZw (one minute)

Posted by: Konami | Oct 5 2024 21:14 utc | 179

yisrael is under the impression they can obtain some form of media screen-based reprisal, loud booms, pretty explosions, cheering, more dancing israelis, and that so long as nothing overly strategic is impacted, that the iranian response will be to go along with the image game. I don’t see the resistance playing their western game at this point, they’ll be given one warning attack on their energy points and if yisrael dares respond further it’s the end of the occupiers’ government.
More like a c-section than a slow natural birth at this point. So far as earthquakes go there have been two decent ones in iran today, but seismic activity is up all over, huge solar storm impacting right now so that’s to be expected.. the increase of gamma waves during this storm should the reason to postpone any attack, as both guidance and detection, will likely be affected. iran and its allies undoubtedly know this and can adjust power-levels accordingly at least to some extent but i doubt yisrael has anyone truly thinking beyond press this button at this time and following instruction manuals/training. Definitely not an opportune time to rely on space-based signals for anything.. Not that the Lord would allow yisraeli success anyway. Both targeting as well as interception target acquisition will be degraded and suboptimal on both sides if they don’t wait, they may not even have stable radio comms this weekend.

Posted by: NJH | Oct 5 2024 21:14 utc | 180

Correction -last 15 years.

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:20 utc | 181

Of course I know what a semite is. Don’t be an ass.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 21:09 utc | 172
I have to ask you this question though, point blank. What do you mean when you say that “many Jews are not Zionists?” Define “Jews,” define “many,” and define “Zionism.”
100,000 Jews are many. 100,000 Jews aren’t a lot compared to sixteen million. The truth is the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews are fully on board with the genocide of the Palestinians, and most of them only whine about the IDF not killing more of them.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 21:23 utc | 182

Let’s be empirical on the question who rules who since a lot of you blindly believe that US rules Israel or that somehow it’s symbiotic, but the facts are heavily weighed towards the only supported state of the relationship, namely, US doing the bidding of it’s AIPAC/ADL/neocon/Zionist (all equivalent, since they are the same group of people) master!
To see this, head over to Phillip Giraldis postings on UNZ and read to your heart’s content. One of his most recent essays is entitled:
Israel Rules Washington
Political Parties compete in what they will do for the Jewish State
Some excerpts:

If there is anyone out there who seriously doubts that it is Israel that is in the driver’s seat when it comes to its relationship with the United States, last week’s filing of criminal charges directed against Hamas’s leadership should be a wake-up call. The seven-count criminal complaint was filed in a federal court in New York City on September 2nd…
To spread the good news of the new development, the malignant dwarf United States Attorney General Merrick Garland even emerged from his closet where he has been hiding since he traveled to Ukraine to threaten Russia in September 2023. He produced a video statement that revealed his thinking re the latest attempt to regulate the behavior of the rest of the world using American courts. Garland said, without presenting any evidence, that Hamas had been guilty of “financing and directing a decades-long campaign to murder American citizens and endanger the security of the United States… [while also seeking] to destroy the state of Israel and murder civilians in support of that aim.” Garland also described the October 7th attack on Israel by Hamas, in which 43 American-Israelis allegedly died, in graphic terms that have since been exposed as nearly all Israeli propaganda lies. He claimed, the group had “murdered entire families” as “the deadliest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
Friedman, who was a total yes-man for Israel while Ambassador, explains that Israel needs financial assistance “to assert and maintain its sovereignty over Judea and Samaria,” the biblical name for the illegally Israeli-occupied Palestinian West Bank. He suggests that the next Republican administration could redirect to Jerusalem $1 billion already budgeted and intended to provide aid to Palestinians. “The easiest bucket to tap into and reposition is that of the United States.” Friedman said the US should support the Israeli annexation “based first and foremost on biblical prophecies and values.” He added that he intends to discuss the proposal with Donald Trump.

So, there we go folks. There is only one political party in the United States and that is the party that takes direction from Israel. End of story for the Republic that we once upon a time lived in.

Posted by: Boo | Oct 5 2024 21:25 utc | 183

@werpore 86
Quote “Every war is an english war
Not at all ?
Every war is England’s war. It is English pirate race that plots all major wars including 1st and 2nd world wars. Iraq war, Syrian war and this Ukraine war.
They blame Jews and Russians to distract from themselves . Russia must annihilate English pirates for hurting Russia and the world . There is no other way it is Anglo-Saxon race war on the non Anglo world races.

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:25 utc | 184

RE:S400
Something to consider from March 2023:
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/iran-mod-why-no-need-s400s
“Iranian Defence Chief Explains Why His Country Doesn’t Needs Russian S-400 Missile Systems”
Middle East , Missile and Space
Military Watch Magazine Editorial Staff
March-7th-2023
Some highlights: (very long article-worth the read though)
“Ashtiani claimed that Iran was already self sufficient in the production of air defence equipment, highlighting in particular the advanced capabilities of the Bavar-373 system which is the country’s indigenous equivalent to the S-400. Iran currently fields a number of Russian and Soviet air defence assets, most notably the S-200 system acquired in the 1990s which it is the world’s largest operator of, and which it has extensively modernised including recently with mobile launch vehicles.
Tehran placed an order for the S-300PMU-1 system the following decade, a direct predecessor to the S-400, although deliveries were frozen under the Dmitry Medvedev administration. Following the return of Vladimir Putin to the presidency Iran was offered the S-400 to replace the S-300s that had been cancelled, since the older system was no longer in production, although Iran reportedly insisted on acquiring the older systems leading it to acquire a highly customised variant of the S-300PMU-2 – the S-400’s immediate predecessor. These S-300s had been built to meet Syrian orders, but had been frozen by Russia due to Israeli and Western pressure. S-300PMU-2s began deliveries to Iran in 2017 after being modified to meet the country’s requirements. “
Article goes into specifics of ranges, that Iran prefers ground based with compliment of S-35s:
In a Forbes:
“Iran took delivery of Yak-130 jet trainers from Russia in September, which seemingly suggested the Su-35s could soon follow. In November, Tehran announced that the Su-35 deal had been finalized.
If these preliminary Iranian media reports prove accurate, the timing of the Su-35’s arrival would demonstrate the present regional tensions do not dissuade Russia from fulfilling its contract. It would also underscore the deepened military ties the two countries have forged since 2022.“
Not likely Iran has any F-35s still.
I personally think China has supplied them with some form of aerial support.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 5 2024 21:25 utc | 185

Iran could choose by the timing of their October 1 operation. Would they launch that operation without recently acquired air defenses being operational?
Maybe, but my bet is the S-400s are ready to rock and roll.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2024 21:25 utc | 186

nato and usa”.
As early as in 1949 the first NATO Secretary General, british Lord Ismay, candidly admitted that NATO’s true goal was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”
USA does not need NATO it was created by one nation and for the benefit of one nation only to create havoc in Europe on strength of American arms but crookedness of someone else-
you hear that from the horse’s mouth of the people who created NATO and are still controlling it to wage wars on the nations it does not like -which is all of the world except evil 5.spies.
There is a confusion among many that USA uses
Nato exert her influence in Europe. In fact USA does not need nato . But that entity
is needed by a third rate country which after second world war found herself
without real power so nato was created by that country to keep Germans down and
Russians out using American arms and American
money..
Since early 90s that same country manoeuvred to keep Nato alive and
install her stooges in European commission like british spy barrasso and English witch catherine
ashton and many more inside European bureaucracy to make Europe follow one and only one policy
to be dictated by that same country.
Name of the evil country? Of course it is england.
Russia-know thy enemy !
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We lie, we cheat and we steal” (Mike Pompeo, former US Secretary of State and CIA director). This is the foundation of Perfidious Albion and the current USA establishment IF they are unable to compete with honor, dignity and fairness. Whatever is said about Russia today are simply lies because they LOST. It is the same for China. “Western polling” has confirmed the Chinese population have a 95% approval rating of the CPC and Xi Jinping.

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:26 utc | 187

I ask all barflies: define Zionism.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 5 2024 18:32 utc | 74
There is a very clear definition of Zionism that is easily found.
A belief in Palestine/Israel area as homeland of the Jews/Israelites/Hebrews….
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 20:38 utc | 149
It’s a bit more complicated…You have to read Herzl to understand Zionism…Strangely, as far as I know, some of his central statements (in some letters, for example) have still not been translated into English, Yiddish and Hebrew.. .

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 5 2024 21:30 utc | 188

If Russia had helped and armed yemen, Iran, Venezuela etc in time, the coward west would not have dared to come near Russian border.
By treachery against allies, Russia made sure that west did not have much difficulty in breaking shield of allies around Russia . Traitors inside Kremlin like foreign minister Lavrov and spokesman pesko are still at their post despite being useless and treacherous

Posted by: Sam | Oct 5 2024 21:30 utc | 189

Maybe, but my bet is the S-400s are ready to rock and roll.
Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 5 2024 21:25 utc | 189
Maybe, but we hoped for the same when it came to Syria.
I hope you’re right.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 5 2024 21:31 utc | 190

@ Simon | Oct 5 2024 20:00 utc | 125
Yes, Zionism contains Manifest Destiny as part of its doctrine, the Manifest Destiny to claim Palestine and some neighboring areas in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and maybe Egypt for the Zionist nation-state. This does exactly parallel the US doctrine of Manifest Destiny first articulated with the terminology in 1845 in the context of the desire to seize part or all of Mexico (they settled for part, as John C. Calhoun and others did not want to annex all those non-whites, so they took the emptier 40%). Manifest Destiny is also a common motif in all nationalisms, as these always remain bound to specific territorial claims, which often go beyond existing national boundaries and clash with other such claims of other nation-states. Clearly, Israel is a case in point.

Posted by: Cabe | Oct 5 2024 21:32 utc | 191

To add to my | Oct 5 2024 17:29 utc | 43
This has been bothering me since I posted. How could luminaries such as Professors M. Hudson, R. Wolff, and G. Doctrow be so wrong?
They have clarified their position that it is the empire that is in the driver seat.
Here is a challenge for the said sum – I hope they are reading this – : Please produce a list of key position personnel, or entities, in the empire, that could say NO to the entity.
We’ll know immediately that you are lying if you said: Genocide Joe – I am a zionist through and through, or A. Blinken – I came here as a Jew.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 5 2024 21:32 utc | 192

For example, it is repeatedly claimed that the English offered Madagascar to Herzl as a Jewish state and he refused…that is not correct, the opposite is true…At the beginning, the idea of ​​the Jewish state was not based on a specific territory bound!

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 5 2024 21:35 utc | 193

Israel is wreaking havoc in Lebanon. They are bombing indiscriminately. They might have killed Safiedin, Hezbollah’s new leader.
Now they are bellicosing about attacking Iran very soon. Iran and the rest of the axis should not wait to be reactive. They should take the fight to Israel and US outposts as the attack against them is set in motion and has been greenlighted. Attack with no mercy.
To b’s article, I tend to agree. This is all directed by US and their handlers in City of London and Basel. They will stop at nothing to ruin the party in Kazan first, by destroying Iran first.
Israel’s war, being part of a larger plan, is to a lesser degree about racism as it has morphed into geopolitical interest such as the gas and oil reserves in the Levant and creating a corridor from the gulf and Red Sea all the way to the Med. But it sounds nicer under the banner of Greater Israel, the Bible and all that BS. Serves two purpose.
In the meantime, China’s BRI has to be stopped at all cost, and along with it BRICS or any other aspirations of the global south.
Brace yourselves. This volcano is about to erupt.

Posted by: Alpi | Oct 5 2024 21:36 utc | 194

Posted by: JAB | Oct 5 2024 21:09 utc | 172
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The ADL invented the term antisemitic to shame people by calling them racist.
When you accuse someone of antisemitism for whatever reason, you’re playing the Zionists game the way they want you to.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 21:36 utc | 195

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 21:11 utc | 174
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You could take responsibility for yourself and not blame others for what you perceive to be shortcomings.
No one owes any of us anything.
Don’t like how the Russians operate. Ok. I doubt they care. They have bigger fish to fry than your dissatisfaction.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 21:38 utc | 196

I doubt that Jewrael will attack Iran this month. They’re having too much fun slaughtering Lebanese and Palestinian civilians with impunity.
Why risk provoking Iran so soon after having their utterly useless self-defence arrangements exposed for the whole to see?
It’s fun watching them pretend that they know what to do about it.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 5 2024 21:39 utc | 197

@ Simon | Oct 5 2024 20:19 utc | 143
Yes, Israel is not now and never has been a “strategic asset” for either of its great-power sponsors, the UK and then the US. The idea of it being of some use to the US in dominating the Middle East is ridiculous. It has always alienated all the native populations of the regime through its expansionism, threat, and meanness, and it is a problem, not an asset, for all the monarchs and dictators in the area who would like to serve the US and western capitalism as compradors. It has not been and cannot be used as a US base in the area, both because Israel itself does not want foreign troops on its soil anymore than any nation-state but mainly because that would further alienate the region’s populations by demonstrating that Israel is just a US project that is part of an evil-minded, permanent US aggression against them all.
Historically, the situation has worked for Israel and its sponsors because the local people were still too weak to make the costs too great for Israel to be worth it. Also, of course, the Zionist influence or control in the US is an absolutely crucial factor. Without it, Israel would have been toast long ago. So, as the costs go up (such as those admirably retailed by Arch Bungle in the previous thread), the Zionists have all the more to twist themselves into pretzels trying to show that Israel is still “worth it,” and the “strategic asset” lie is a big one. So the lying mainstream media continue to fool the commoners who don’t look into things carefully, but it all seems to be wearing thin, hence their attempt now to criminalize all anti-Zionist speech and analysis. October 7th really did it too them, and even if they were to kill every last Gazan, they still would never be able to get back to where they were before that.

Posted by: Cabe | Oct 5 2024 21:44 utc | 198

For those interested in the full address of Iran’s Supreme Leader to Lebanon, Palestine and the whole Islamic world. He spoke in Arabic:
https://iranpress.com/leader-urges-arab-nations-to-confront-the-zionist-regime-as-root-cause-of-conflicts
Excerpt:
It is our duty and the responsibility of all Muslims to repay our debt to the wounded, bloodied Lebanon. Hezbollah and the martyred Sayyid have taken steps in defense of Gaza and jihad for Al-Aqsa Mosque, delivering a blow to the usurping, cruel regime. They have provided a vital service to the entire region and the entire Muslim world.
The insistence of the US and its allies on ensuring the safety of the usurping regime serves as a cover for their lethal policy of changing the [Zionist] regime into a tool for seizing all the resources of this region and using it [that regime] in major global conflicts.
Their policy is to turn the [Zionist] regime into a gateway for exporting energy from the region to the Western world while facilitating the import of goods and technology from the West to the region. This [approach] ensures the survival of the usurping regime and increases the entire region’s dependency on it. The [Zionist] regime’s brutal, reckless behavior toward the [Resistance] fighters stems from its self-serving desire for such a situation.
This reality helps us to realize that every blow to the Zionist regime by any individual or group is not only a service to the entire region but to all of humanity.
Surely, this Zionist and American dream is a vain, unattainable delusion. The [Zionist] regime is like “an evil tree, uprooted from the ground,” which according to God’s true words, “lacks any stability” (Quran 14:26).
This malicious regime is rootless, fallacious, and unstable, and it has only managed to stand on its feet with difficulty with US support. And God willing, this too will not last for long.

Posted by: JB | Oct 5 2024 21:45 utc | 199

Perhaps the explanation for Netanyahu’s apparent transgressions of Biden’s dicta are explained by Michael Hudson’s revelations about Israel’s real utility in American strategic thinking. Have a listen to Nima speaking with Hudson and Richard Wolff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDz1PdMWao

Posted by: DRF | Oct 5 2024 21:45 utc | 200