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October 05, 2024

The 'Birth Pangs' Of The New Middle East May Not Be The Ones The U.S. Has Wished For

Edward Luce for the FT:

How Netanyahu is ‘running rings’ around Biden (archived)
The US president had hoped to disentangle from the Middle East. But the turbulence in the region could influence the election and define his legacy

“Netanyahu knows how to play the Washington game better than most US politicians,” says Alon Pinkas, a former Israeli diplomat, now columnist for the Haaretz newspaper. “And he has been running rings around Biden.”
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On countless occasions over the past year, Netanyahu has appeared to agree to one thing with Washington and done the opposite in practice. Whether it is wranglings over the terms of a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release, or the more recent attempt at a 21-day ceasefire with Hizbollah, each time Biden is left looking impotent. “The Biden administration seems to be saying, ‘We’re suffering from a bit of autumn damp,’ ” says Pinkas. “No, this isn’t seasonal damp, it’s Netanyahu urinating all over you.

This has been the general theme of a media campaign for a while. "Natanyahoo is steamrolling Biden and the poor guy can do nothing about it."

I do not buy it. One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel. Without constant supply renewal the Israeli Air Force would have to stop its bombing campaigns in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen within days if not within hours.

But instead of calling the Pentagon the whole Middle East team around Biden, Antony Blinken, Brett McGurk and IDF soldier Amos Hochstein, has been urging Israel to extend its campaign.

They are hoping, like the neoconservatives in 2006 during the Bush administration, for the 'birth pangs of a new Middle East', which will forever change the strategic situation on the ground.

Behind the scenes, Hochstein, McGurk and other top U.S. national security officials are describing Israel’s Lebanon operations as a history-defining moment — one that will reshape the Middle East for the better for years to come.

The thinking goes: Israel has obliterated Hezbollah’s top command structure in Lebanon, severely undercutting the group’s capabilities and weakened Iran, which used Hezbollah as a proxy and power projector.

The internal administration division seems to have dissipated somewhat in recent days, with top U.S. officials convening Monday at the White House with President Joe Biden to discuss the situation on the ground. Most agreed that the conflict, while fragile, could offer an opportunity to reduce Iran’s influence in Lebanon and the region.

The conclusion from this is that Netanyahoo is largely doing exactly what the Biden administration wants him to do.

The strategic situation may well change. But it is not going to be the way Biden and Netanyahoo may hope for.

Most of the 200 missiles Iran fired on Israel two days ago passed through the Israeli air defenses and hit their targets with good precision. Some expensive air planes got damaged but no one was hurt. A similar strike on Israeli energy facilities could easily disable the country for months of years to come. A strike on IDF barracks or Israeli population centers could easily cause mass casualties.

Shortly after the strike President Masoud Pezeshkian met with Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud in Doha, Qatar:

The Saudi minister voiced his country's determination to develop relations with Iran, Xinhua news agency reported.

"We seek to close the page of differences between the two countries forever and work towards the resolution of our issues and expansion of our relations like two friendly and brotherly states," he said.

He highlighted the "very sensitive and critical" situation in West Asia due to Israel's "aggressions" against Gaza and Lebanon and its attempts to expand the conflict in the region. He said Saudi Arabia trusted Iran's wisdom and discernment in managing the situation and contributing to the restoration of calm and peace in the region.

Yesterday the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, held Friday prayers in Tehran. Little remarked in western media was the fact that he sermon was largely voiced in Arabic and that the whole event was seen on Arabic live TV through AlJazeerah.

This already is a new Middle East in which the Gulf states are no longer hostile to Iran and which the religious schisms between Sunni and Shia has largely lost its power.

Who then is left of the former U.S. allies? On whom can it call for support in the region when it plans to attack Iran?

Has this whole U.S.-Israeli campaign really helped to "reduce Iran’s influence in Lebanon and the region"? Will continuing it ever do so?

My impression for one is that it has strengthened the front against Israel and the positions of Iran in and beyond the Middle East.

Posted by b on October 5, 2024 at 16:11 UTC | Permalink

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So the marionettes holding up the demented cadaver are in charge of running the genocide.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 5 2024 16:18 utc | 1

CENTCOM general Michael Kurilla is visiting Israel again to coordinate the attack on Iran. Hard to put together a statement how not in opposition to US policies they are.

(just first link that came up with the story it's wherever you like to reference).
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/by11r48rrr

Before anyone gets into the which one is controlling which, it's a global cabal controlling both and just about everything else.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 5 2024 16:19 utc | 2

*** weakened Iran, which used Hezbollah as a proxy and power projector.***

Will this work as well as "weakening" Russia?

Posted by: frithguild | Oct 5 2024 16:20 utc | 3

Absolutely agree with b that the media spin--even by some on alt-media--is wrong and misdirecting. As an antidote to that and more, as I did yesterday, I very strenuously suggest watching the latest Dialog Works podcast with Hudson and Wolff. The Zionists are an appendage of the Outlaw US Empire, the spear-tip of its Terrorist Foreign Legion, and was designed to be that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 16:23 utc | 4

The Anglo-Americans have always used division to weaken their enemies.

Shia and Sunni are not compatible but the Ummah would be unstoppable with both onside.

It makes me wonder what Erdogan thinks of this. He fancies himself as the Sunni leader in the world.

Many Sunni leaders have used the differences with the Shia as a convenient excuse to fulfill America's desires.

As the Shia continue to be brave and challenge evil, lay Muslims all over the world see it, while they see the weakness and fecklessness of states like Jordan and the Emirates.

There is no greater motivation than existential motivation, and there is no greater source of charisma than moral courage.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 16:24 utc | 5

I wonder how much of the rapprochement towards Iran is pragmatically driven by the thought: “We’d better get onside with the guys with the hypersonics, because all those shiny military toys we bought from the US are looking like expensive ornamnents”?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 16:24 utc | 6

It's hilarious that the US still has no hypersonic missile capability.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2024 16:28 utc | 7

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 5 2024 16:24 utc | 6

The swing began back in the Syrian war when Russia moved into Syria. At that time, all roads led to Moscow.
Now, most are heading towards the multi-polar world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 16:29 utc | 8

At the same time Al Jazeere show the terror acts of IDF, Iran use strict restriction. The absence of civil casualties of Iran's missil strikes is what hurts the most to Netanuahu's regime.

Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2024 16:32 utc | 9

In support of
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Before anyone gets into the which one is controlling which, it's a global cabal controlling both and just about everything else.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 5 2024 16:19 utc | 2
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I call it the God Of Mammon cult because finance is the unspoken jackboot of our form of social organization.

I agree with b's ending words
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My impression for one is that it has strengthened the front against Israel and the positions of Iran in and beyond the Middle East.
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I am reminded of an ancient phrase

"Amicus meus, inimicus inimici mei" ("my friend, the enemy of my enemy")


The shit show continues until we all agree it doesn't.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 5 2024 16:32 utc | 10

karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 16:23 utc | 4

Not 4 in till people are already thinking too small on the control. Which dog is wagging which tail does not matter if people are not looking for and at who is running the pound.

Who's telling the dog to go fetch? Not a "deep state" in any of the countries, that is a misdirection.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 5 2024 16:32 utc | 11

> he sermon was largely voiced in Arabic and that the whole event was seen on Arabic live TV through AlJazeerah.

My impression was that Khamenei's simulcast would have an Elvis Aloha from Hawaii impact for its target audience. Huge and precedent setting.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 5 2024 16:33 utc | 12

"One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel."

As I was saying yesterday, the entire US political elite are ideologically hardcore Zionists. That's been proven over again in the last year. Israel has ideologically captured the US government. So, yeah, the US could shut Israel down in a minute, but who would expect a bunch of Zionists to do that?

The hard reality is that the US political elite will go against the interests of US imperialism itself for Israel and Israelis. To this end, it's totally ruined it's own international reputation by supporting genocide. Now, it's ready to waste more treasure and reputation on a losing war to defeat Iran, which will send oil prices and price inflation through the roof.

There is nothing the ruling class of the US won't sacrifice for Israel. That's the commitment of every Zionist: Israel Uber alles.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 16:35 utc | 13

Israel and Ukraine have things in common. The official narrative is that we are winning. The surge in emigration shows otherwise.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 5 2024 16:37 utc | 14

It's hilarious that the US still has no hypersonic missile capability.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2024 16:28 utc | 7

Simple, those are cost-effective weapons systems with huge deterrence offerings.
That's the last thing the MIC wants is to lose future earnings. Like big pharma only coming up with treatments, never cures.

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 16:38 utc | 15

Gil D:

"The Friday prayer sermon delivered yesterday by Iran’s Supreme Leader Seyyed Ali Hosseini Khameneh in a central square of Teheran which drew an audience of hundreds of thousands chanting ‘death to Israel’."


Makes an atheist want to scream "Allah Akbar!"

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 16:39 utc | 16

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 16:39 utc | 17

Inshallah.

Teardrop Explodes - Like Leila Khaled Said

Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 5 2024 16:49 utc | 17

Now that Nasrallah's successor, Hashem Safieddine, has been killed in another Israeli airstrike yesterday, along with several more Iranian aides and other Hezbollah commanders, will Iran strike Israel again? (but with "crushing" force this time, as recently promised)?

Or will Iran hold off again and try a few more of their useless diplomatic negotiations, allowing Israel to continue assassinating Hezbollah, Iranian, and Hamas officials non-stop?

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Oct 5 2024 16:54 utc | 18

We should all remember China's enormous role in West Asian politics over the last 18 months.

Russia got Syria back into the Arab league fold, and China has moved mountains when it comes to unimaginably intense religious differences.

For the Saudis to lower their guard against the Iranians, they would need to feel confident that the Shia won't use their military against KSA later. They have already had a conflict involving Yemen. I wonder if that confidence in security originates from China or Russia.

Either way, America continues to hemorrhage satraps and divisions in no small part due to BRICS.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 16:55 utc | 19

Khamenei's speech/sermon was emphatic about the importance of unity of the Muslim umma. Hence so much of it was in Arabic.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 5 2024 16:57 utc | 20

Then it was the Arab Spring. That really should've led to a new Middle East.

Posted by: Inka | Oct 5 2024 16:37 utc | 15

Arab spring was stymied in Egypt by the Israelis, who complained the elected Mohd Morsi was not pro-Israeli. The Egyptian Army overthrew him with American connivance, thousands of protesters died, and Sisi took the traditional role of military dictator. Bahrain and Saudi also used force against domestic dissent.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 5 2024 16:59 utc | 21

The usual suspects post all sorts of moronic stuff about Putin vis a vis NATO/Ukraine, meanwhile, Vladimir Vladimirovich is re-organizing the world around and inside of the American supposed "spheres of influence".

The kinetic battle isn't the one that wins a war. It is the economic and diplomatic fronts that eventually force conclusions.

Russia is playing the diplomatic and economic game brilliantly. It's less sexy because there are no explosions or dead bodies but it is there to be seen for anyone willing to look.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 16:59 utc | 22

"Absolutely agree with b that the media spin--even by some on alt-media--is wrong and misdirecting. As an antidote to that and more, as I did yesterday, I very strenuously suggest watching the latest Dialog Works podcast with Hudson and Wolff. The Zionists are an appendage of the Outlaw US Empire, the spear-tip of its Terrorist Foreign Legion, and was designed to be that."

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 16:23 utc | 4

100% agree.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 5 2024 17:00 utc | 23

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 5 2024 16:19 utc | 2

The genociding empire’s plan is to open up another front against an enemy that has technological and numerical superiority?

How is that going to turn out any better than their proxy war fiasco in the former Ukraine?

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 5 2024 17:01 utc | 24

Has the new leader of Hezbollah also been assassinated?

https://www.rt.com/news/605294-nasrallah-successor-killed-strike/

"Hashem Safieddine, along with several Iranian aides and other Hezbollah commanders, was eliminated in a strike on Beirut, Al Arabiya claims"

"...was assassinated after an attack on the southern part of the city, along with several unnamed Iranian aides and Hezbollah commanders. Safieddine was reportedly hiding in a deep bomb shelter.

Echoing the claim, an unnamed Lebanese official cited by Reuters and Sky News Arabia said that the chances of anyone surviving in the targeted area are “almost zero.” "

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 5 2024 17:02 utc | 25

"There is nothing the ruling class of the US won't sacrifice for Israel. That's the commitment of every Zionist: Israel Uber alles.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 5 2024 16:35 utc | 13

Don't be fooled; the PTB want you to believe that malarkey but the truth is Israel is just another Empire proxy army as Hudson and Wolff, inter alia, have intelligently articulated.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 5 2024 17:04 utc | 26

@ mark 19

Iran has already said the time of patience has ended. If zionazis retaliate, they will not hesitate to strike harder and concentrate on infrastructure, oil and power generation instead of limiting to strictly military targets.


Off topic here but nice to see:
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/10/05/734589/Venezuela-Yvan-Gil-world-front-Israeli-terrorism

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 17:04 utc | 27

Nasrallah said the same for years - that the USA directed everything and liked to have the world think it was Israel

Posted by: douglass truth | Oct 5 2024 17:05 utc | 28

Bahrain police suppressing demonstration for Palestine

https://youtube.com/shorts/wk64CB2ebD0?si=KnV_iP9cnQkhPBdS

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 5 2024 17:06 utc | 29

It's hilarious that the US still has no hypersonic missile capability.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2024 16:28 utc | 7
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This may be because the raw materials are at least lacking in large quantities, e.g. titanium. Which, by the way, is currently slowing down F35 production.
But not only in the USA, but also in Germany, the production of tanks depends on the LACK of raw materials.
BUT since the Russians are known to be stupid and backward, their space program is just hot air...their newest satellite interests every secret service in the world...and their own Starlink is currently in the test phase...END OF SARCASM.

Posted by: ossi | Oct 5 2024 17:06 utc | 30

There is also the chance that if the Pentagon cuts of Israel's supply of munitions, 'terrorist' attacks could start happening stateside, small nuclear type ones. I definitely wouldn't think that mossad could possibly stoop to such blackmail, but sure, you never know do you?

Posted by: Ogre | Oct 5 2024 17:11 utc | 31

A thought experiment.

Similar to my comments on Ukraine, can anyone imagine a scenario where Israel qua Israel exists as an American fort in the Middle East 4 years from now?

Where all Palestinians have been slaughtered, where Israel now extends up to the Litani River?

Is there some weapon or policy that America and its allies could put together to reinforce and sanctify Israel as a bonafide country with global acceptance?

Every day that Israel can't move back to the North, is another day they bleed out economically.

As with Ukraine, printing money is easy. Machinery, technology, equipment, and manpower cannot be printed. There are finite resources for America to bring to bear beyond numbers on a computer.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 17:11 utc | 32

Lev Davidovich | Oct 5 2024 17:01 utc | 25

When the plan is to keep the world in chaos, it is doing quite well.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 5 2024 17:11 utc | 33

So the Centcom Commander is now in occupied Palestine?

Can the US really be serious about participating in an attack on Iran being planned by a psychopathic mass murderer like Bibi and his crazed War Cabinet?

If this is the case then RF AAD units in Iran........will very soon face off against Naval aircraft from the USS Abraham Lincoln strike group (now increasily moving far away from the Persian Gulf to remove themselves from the danger of missile strikes). This strike group has been effectively crippled by the loss of its fleet oiler the USNS Big Horn, which provides aviation fuel to the carrier, and bunker fuel to the escorting destroyers, cruisers and frigates.

Thus expect cruise missile strikes only from the US..........LOL

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 5 2024 17:12 utc | 34

Re: Groupthink ?

It’s remarkable to watch unfold in slow motion. The Likudniks must be getting bogus SITREPs from the IDF. No one in staff meetings is allowed to bring up bad news.

Yet - it’s abundantly clear the IDF is getting crushed .

Like, Arch summarized in post 193 in the prior thread; the reality is vastly different than what the Likudniks imagine.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 17:14 utc | 35


The kinetic battle isn't the one that wins a war. It is the economic and diplomatic fronts that eventually force conclusions.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 16:59 utc | 23

Many nations throughout history from Carthage to Germany would disagree with you.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 5 2024 17:15 utc | 36

America does what the pro-Israel lobby tells them to do.

Posted by: D J G | Oct 5 2024 17:16 utc | 37

@ ogre #32

Haha, that was great sarcasm seeing as how it was mossad that did 9/11.

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 17:16 utc | 38

Nasrallah said the same for years - that the USA directed everything and liked to have the world think it was Israel

Posted by: douglass truth | Oct 5 2024 17:05 utc | 29

I'm not sure if it even matters since the same group of dual passport holders run both countries.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 5 2024 17:19 utc | 39

“Netanyahu knows how to play the Washington game better than most US politicians,” says Alon Pinkas, a former Israeli diplomat, now columnist for the Haaretz newspaper. “And he has been running rings around Biden.”

He can, as Biden is dead man walking. On the other hand, who owns the US? The Jews!

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 17:20 utc | 40


Re: must see 1 minute video

The Lebanese movement Hezbollah published a video with the following caption:

"The mountains may move, but you shall not waver. Clench your teeth firmly, offer your skulls to Allah, plant your feet firmly on the ground, cast your gaze to the furthest reaches of the enemy and lower your eyes. And know that victory comes from Allah, Glory be to Him."

https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1842582575195316605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1842582575195316605%7Ctwgr%5E113afcbfa4b80e63c3e8ab50f2cbc1b1d4860069%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestinechronicle.com%2F121514-2%2F

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 17:25 utc | 41

“This has been the general theme of a media campaign for a while. "Natanyahoo is steamrolling Biden and the poor guy can do nothing about it."
I do not buy it. One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel.
“ ~b

b, this presupposes that there are people in key position in the empire that can say no to the entity. Where are they? Paying lip service to peace and providing bombs is the empire's go-to now.
Professors Doctrow, Hudson, and Wolf have come out saying that the US is in the driver seat. I think this is complete utter BS, as the total control of politicians and media attests.
The dampness is the urination in the wind blowing back. The birth pangs – without the empire -- indeed.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 5 2024 17:29 utc | 42

I'm not sure if it even matters since the same group of dual passport holders run both countries.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 5 2024 17:19 utc | 40

You get it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 17:30 utc | 43

It's encouraging to read B's analysis and see so many of the commenters get it. I'm sure Harris' handlers would like to have us believe that bad old Netanyahu has gone rogue, he's refusing to do a deal to get the hostages back, oh please don't throw me in that briar patch, Bibi!

But it's been the neocons all along who can't stop meddling, using Israel as the "tip of the spear" as another commenter put it, in the ME to achieve their nefarious goals. The Centcom guy over there making war plans is just the obvious manifestation of the dirty game that has been going on for years.

And don't think Trump will make things better, he's talking about egging on Bibi to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. As if that would end well.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 5 2024 17:30 utc | 44

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 17:25 utc | 42

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Thanks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 17:31 utc | 45

Some "experts" claim that the Iranian ballistics missiles launched to Occupied Palestine in 1 october, had an error (CEP) of around 2,5 Km, so they are worthless to attack important targets except cities with wide area; so, as usual, the "military experts" of the west say they are designed for a terrorist use, and really not as military weapons to hit precise targets. So they are wothless for a war...

In this tweet can be seen the attack of two ballistics missiles on 1 october when everybody can see how both missiles impact, with pinpoin accuracy, and off-shore platform near Tel Aviv:

https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1842610511491523023

The same happened when they attack a compound near Erbil in Irak's Kurdistan on 15 january this year, when a serie of very accurate missile strikes reduce the houses of the compound to rubble, killing all the occupiers:

https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1747006227182170249

The western "experts" and their mountains of lies

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:33 utc | 46

The swing began back in the Syrian war when Russia moved into Syria. At that time, all roads led to Moscow.
Now, most are heading towards the multi-polar world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 5 2024 16:29 utc | 8

Yes. Without the loyalty and power of Russia, Syria would just be another failed nation exemplifying the trickery/deceit of the twin evil sisters. Who's in charge? Depends on what day it is.
Putin's courage in providing a safe home for Edward Snowden was one of the most memorable acts of decency imaginable. D.C. was enraged by this, and still is today.
U.S. 10 Year Note pushing hard at 4%, even though the U.S. Fed is pushing interest rates down (at least their public posture) tells you money is scared. Part of D.C. desperation. So many holes in the dike.

Posted by: kupkee | Oct 5 2024 17:36 utc | 47

It's hilarious that the US still has no hypersonic missile capability.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 5 2024 16:28 utc | 7
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So, they say! Never underestimate the US capabilities when it comes to waging war. By the way, is that really you Tom? Haven't heard much from you in a while.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 5 2024 17:39 utc | 48

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/09/26/grayzone-iranian-pres-pezeshkian-un-general-assembly/

During a meeting with US media on the UNGA sidelines, Max Blumenthal asked Masoud Pezeshkian about the Biden administration’s accusation this his government was funding pro-Palestine protest in the US, while the newly inaugurated Iranian president campaigned to prevent regional war.

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 17:39 utc | 49

Some "experts" claim that the Iranian ballistics missiles launched to Occupied Palestine in 1 october, had an error (CEP) of around 2,5 Km, so they are worthless to attack important targets

...

The western "experts" and their mountains of lies

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:33 utc | 47

I was shocked to hear even Postol peddling this nonsense.

The man is obviously past his sell-by date.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 17:40 utc | 50

Trump has a different idea:
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Israel should carry out a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities to avenge Tehran’s recent missile attack on the Jewish state, US Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has argued.

[…] Speaking at a campaign event in North Carolina on Friday, Trump, known for his hawkish stance on Iran, disagreed with US President Joe Biden, who had earlier refused to support an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

“They asked him, what do you think about Iran, would you hit Iran? And he goes, ‘As long as they don’t hit the nuclear stuff.’ That’s the thing you want to hit, right? I mean, it’s the biggest risk we have, nuclear weapons,” he said.

“When they asked him that question, the answer should have been, hit the nuclear first, and worry about the rest later,” Trump added. […]

https://www.rt.com/news/605286-trump-israel-should-strike-iran-nuclear/
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Israel feels invincible:

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Israeli media is reporting that the country's military is gearing up for large-scale attacks on Iran, Lebanon and Gaza.
The army is reportedly preparing for a "significant and difficult" assault on Iran in response to Tehran's ballistic missile attack on Israel earlier this week.

The military also warned that is planning to expand its assault on Lebanon. In Gaza, it is reportedly preparing for “intense manoeuvres”, especially around the Netzarim Corridor.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-military-preparing-major-attacks-iran-lebanon-gaza-reports?nid=398706&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=533026
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And right now in Gaza:
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What is happening in the northern Gaza Strip is terrifying and frightening, reminding us of the first days of the war:
belts of fire, artillery shelling, and gunfire from helicopters.

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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A violent explosion was heard in the northern Gaza Strip, coinciding with the ongoing artillery shelling.

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Oct 5 2024 17:41 utc | 51

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 17:30 utc | 44

Ditto. It's hilarious to read all these rationalizations and excuses presenting Israel as subordinate to US when even cursory reading of Phil Giraldi's ouvre at Unz exposes the complete capture of the the 3 branches (+ media/entertainment/academia/TT complex) of US gov. by the small hats.

Posted by: Boo | Oct 5 2024 17:42 utc | 52

and was designed to be that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 5 2024 16:23 utc | 4

So is that saying the outlaw empire runs israel, if so please help understanding what the overepresentation of the zionist POV/Ajenda in all facets of western civilization is for. Thanks for all u do.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 5 2024 17:48 utc | 53

One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel.
Yes, a slave can always rebel against his master. But soon enough Congress would pass a law mandating the President resume such deliveries. In any event, the Biden regime is completely controlled by ZioNazi Jews, which dominate the entire cabinet, with all important positions aside Secretary of Defense held by one of them.

canuck @27

the truth is Israel is just another Empire proxy army as Hudson and Wolff, inter alia, have intelligently articulated.
Nonsense. Was the British cabinet during the 1800s dominated by Indians? Biden's cabinet top positions are 80% ZioNazi Jews - incl. of course that arch-ZioNazi Blinken. The US has absolutely no interest in ethnic cleansing or genocide in Palestine, and the loyalty of Arabs could be bought much more cheaply than by supporting ZioNazi terrorism, genocide, colonial-settling, ethnic cleansing and other crimes against humanity.

It's always the Jew worshipers who come up with this nonsense. Stand the truth on its head. Jews, no doubt, are the victims in all of this. Tired old trope. Yawn.

Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 17:50 utc | 54

Israel is carried away by fanatism, self assurance because of the daddy USA comforting it's leaders and the conviction that this opportunity to emasculate its strongest enemy, iran, is the last one.
If Israel fails this tine its fate will be sealed. It will disintegrate gradually from inside and the USA won't be able to help that

Posted by: Virgile | Oct 5 2024 17:51 utc | 55

Andrei Martyanov summed it up pretty well: “There is a lot what is going on in the world today that is directly related to the upcoming Kazan BRICS summit and those anxiously anticipated historic steps which will be taken there.” That applies especially to Iran.

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Oct 5 2024 17:52 utc | 56

Posted by: teri | Oct 5 2024 17:41 utc | 52

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No way! I was told that Trump was not a neocon and not for war.

What an infantile view of the Middle East to think that someone can attack Iran without fighting Russia as well.

I have to laugh when he tells audiences that the Iranians organized his assassination attempts.

I didn't think he could debase himself any further, but he always finds another level to sink to.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 17:54 utc | 57

Posted by: GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN | Oct 5 2024 17:52 utc | 57

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What I have been thinking for a week. The West is flailing as it struggles to increase the tempo for a meeting whose details I am quite sure they are poorly informed about.

The Russians, Indians, and Chinese are pretty good at OpSec.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 17:57 utc | 58

Great post. I think the points of disagreement here are interesting and worth pursuing. I believe both that Net-an-yahoo is pulling a lot of strings along with his Jewish oligarch supporters around the world, but I don't believe that the Zionists are running the FP establishment they are just in accord with the overall project which we should all understand before we make further comment is complete domination of the Earth and space (if possible). This Washington Empire is resembling the Empire in Star Wars more and more as time goes on--it has stepped over the line it was hugging for many years and has, particularly with this administration, stepped into the area of pure evil as much as that is possible. It's not quite there because like pure good, pure evil is impossible for humans but they can try and the FP establishment is trying. I repeat their goal is to conquer through force and not persuasion the entire f**king globe--remember that! Israel is helping that's all because Jewish oligarchs (around the world not just the USA) like the idea.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 5 2024 17:58 utc | 59

So, they say! Never underestimate the US capabilities when it comes to waging war. By the way, is that really you Tom? Haven't heard much from you in a while.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 5 2024 17:39 utc | 49

Counterpoint. Bragging is an American compulsion. Advertising/inventing narratives of WonderWeapons proliferates Media and the Internet. A Manhattan Project is nearly impossible within a divided nation and the eyes-in-the sky. The Chinese probably know as much as or more than the Russians about "secret" U.S. programs.
Certainly China knows about F35 parts. Perhaps one of the reasons for such a poor choice of plane and the failure of so many parts. Harbor Freight top quality. (Sick laughter backtrack)
In the Demented Party's collective minds, a sieve (at the right price) brings in untold individual riches. And with an owned Justice Department punishment goes out to American enemies, rarely foreign.

Posted by: kupkee | Oct 5 2024 18:01 utc | 60

Many posters have probably seen this, but it's too good to not read:
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/02/flipping-the-script-on-israels-killing-of-nasrallah/

Western journalists claim to report the news objectively and fairly. If they really did, this is what coverage of Netanyahu’s assassination might look like…
Headline: Benjamin Netanyahu reported dead after massive strike on Tel Aviv

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 18:07 utc | 61

⚡The Iraqi parliament decides to issue a proposal to impose sanctions on Jordan and stop supplying it with oil, accusing Jordan of supporting and protecting the Zionist occupation.

It's starting to come apart ...

"If you want to destroy my sweater (whoa, oh, oh)
Hold this thread as I walk away (as I walk away)
Watch me unravel, I'll soon be naked
Lying on the floor (lying on the floor)
I've come undone"

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 18:07 utc | 62

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:33 utc | 47

https://www.youtube.com/live/nGVTgmF3flE?si=alDziEi9FfAg4m2v

For an American "expert" from MIT I would argue that Postol is a bit less on propaganda and a bit more realistic...But still he is involved in the American MIC ...

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 5 2024 18:08 utc | 63

Since the IL is retching up escalation with "future" attacks in Iran, where are UN or EU vassals to try "de-escalate" the situation like they try every time Israel is committing a war-crime? Disgusting as usual.

Posted by: JamesBond | Oct 5 2024 18:13 utc | 64

🇮🇷 #Iran destroyed the most expensive US radar 🇺🇲

🇮🇷This radar can detect very small birds measuring five centimeters at a distance of three thousand kilometers.
This radar was completely camouflaged, but it was detected by Iran's intelligence

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 5 2024 18:13 utc | 65

Ignatius appeared on Washington Week last night and verified the American war lords view the elimination of Hezbollah's leadership is an opportunity to regain Lebanon as an imperial outpost for the US/West. The belief is Israel and the Lebanese Armed Forces, with US arms and training, can resume repression of Lebanese Shiites, after being empowered by Hezbollah.

The West's aggression against Palestinians, Iran, and the rest of the put upon Shiites throughout West Asia is creating a response that is uniting Shiites and delegitimizing rule of the Arab despots and nationalists who have become dependent on US power for their personal hegemony and Sunni dominance of Islam. Eric Walberg's article posted at Dissident Voice provides a good description of the 'Shia Cresent' and how it is creating a historical force upending a century of Muslim dominance by the West. I especially enjoyed the responses by Shiite leaders to the admonitions of Sunni vassals and Western elites.

Zia advised Khomeini not to tangle with a superpower. Khomeini retorted he would never do such a thing and in fact always relied in the superpower.
The Iraqi Shia proved that it is possible to work with the US and not compromise. Sistani refused to meet with US officials: Mr Bremer, you are American I am Iranian. Leave it up to the Iraqis to devise their constitution. He challenged US plans to hand power to Allawi, Chalabi. Insisted on one-person, one-vote. When the US refused, he called for large demos over five consecutive days until the US relented.


https://dissidentvoice.org/2024/10/inconvenient-truths-the-shia-salah-al-din-and-10-7/

Posted by: Keme | Oct 5 2024 18:14 utc | 66

DD is reporting Nutty yahoo is to give a speech outlining his casus beli with Iran. Little preview below:

"There are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew."

Posted by: Boo | Oct 5 2024 18:23 utc | 67

@ Good observation! This is precisely why I answer the question of “which controls which?” with both. The power relationship is in fact dialectical: The USA powers up the Zio entity as its regional proxy; the Zio state then turns around and uses some of that power (in the form of espionage, $, threats, etc.) to keep the USA in line, which in turn throws more support to the Zio entity…et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 18:24 utc | 68

Al Mansar live feed reports

Hezbollah reiterates it does not have anything called “senior sources”: Official stances are voiced in statements issued by the Media Relations Department

Comment -Gebociders must be planting false stories ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 5 2024 18:26 utc | 69

Surely the televised live Zionist genocide - in which they've committed terrible atrocities - on not just men, but women and children as well, will have helped unite the region against Israel - for those Arabic countries that are opposed to Iran - must surely now that their country could be next.

I suppose Sunni and Shia need to bury their proverbial axes - and if not unite, at least be seen to stand together for the sake of the region.

Exploiting their religious differences, has been up until now very profitable and successful - religion - is, afterall, the great divider.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 5 2024 18:27 utc | 70

Never underestimate the US capabilities when it comes to waging war.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 5 2024 17:39 utc | 49

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That would make the F-35 arguably the costliest maskirovka in human history.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 18:31 utc | 71

malenkov @69

The USA powers up the Zio entity as its regional proxy
What has Israel ever done to benefit the US? Instead, the US has always done the wet work of the ZioNazis - destroying Iraq, Syria, and Libya being just a few recent examples.

The White House is loaded with Jews. So is Congress and the US courts - in all cases VASTLY and UTTERLY disproportionate to Jewish membership in society writ large. Nobody is allowed on the ballot that opposes Jew supremacist/chauvinist policies. They control virtually all of the US MSM and social media. Not to mention corporations and finance.

And in Israel, where are all the non-Jews controlling .... anything?

It's difficult for some people to grasp that a tiny country can control a much bigger, more powerful one. But it's not a country (Israel) doing the controlling, but a tribe (Jews), which is far bigger and firmly entrenched in the US. Compare it to Jordan, where a Hashemite monarchy controls a country of "others". You don't have to invade and conquer a country with soldiers - you can do it by seizing the levers of power in other ways, such as "by deception".

Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 18:31 utc | 72

I think it's very important for Barflies to re-examine our assumptions and perspectives on "Zionism".

May I start by quoting Snake, who posted the following in the most recent Ukraine thread:

I believe Zionism has produced a trans-national, nation state transparent, well distributed global empire. Its empire seems to be based on an ideology that promises those who pledge their allegiance and who participate when called upon, wealth and materialist pleasures...an often it seems to deliver these goodies..?

In many places evidence appears to suggest the ideology causes its adherents to control many, many governments.. many, many corporations large and small.. many, many religions and many, many institutions.. its membership seems to cross all religions, all races, all nationalities, languages, churches and their religions, most political doctrines, and nearly all competing ideologies. Its not really a purpose behind the ideology more an objective consequence of the ideology which focuses on sucking everyone and everything into its dominance.

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Snake: you provided some excellent insights into the thematic constants across all the Zionist player-types.

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Riffing off your post, it occurs to me that Zionism has become a global political party. There are:

a. Spoils to be divvied up
b. A social order (Mainly Zionist-Jews at the top, or Non-Jews-who've-Taken-The-Oath) (e.g. Trump, Biden, etc.)
c. A loyalty "oath"
d. A dogma (we are chosen, shining city on a hill, the only civilized people on the planet, etc.)
e. A mythos. The Mossad, David and Goliath (and the Start of David), the Invincible Iron Dome, The Maestro (Greenspan @ Fed), etc.
f. An ethic: "do to or be done to". "Escalate first and most". "Never give the mark* an even break"
g. Strong enforcement of the loyalty oath. That's the role of AIPAC and ADL here in the U.S.


It's a crass, gang-land type political party. It makes no pretense of "doing good for others". It "does good" for its members, and has a clear, highly-developed antipathy for non-members.

Those "ethics" I mentioned - and we're seeing them on full display in Israel - those ethics are a toxic brew, and if you layer on the Chosen-ness (any behavior is justified because we're God's Chosen, all other people are cattle), well, you're going to see a horror-show ... and indeed we are.

And, as Snake pointed out in his post, this "political party" spans nations and cultures and time.

I think that you've put your finger on it, Snake. Good insights.

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Maybe you'll ask: "what additional value does it offer to characterize Zionism as a political party?".

A: Because now you know what you're dealing with. How to destroy a political party? Take away the gravy train; take away the spoils to be distributed.

What are Russia and China and by extension BRICS doing to defeat the U.S.?

Take away the spoils. The Dollar. The Russian resources. African resources. S.American resources.

What else is happening? Myth-busting. Invincible Israel ... isn't. That myth got punctured a few days ago.

And what else is happening? "do to or be done to" is about to be reversed. Iran has escalation dominance now (I assert) and Israel can't "do to". Iran said "we're not going to be restrained any longer".

But that doesn't mean Israel/Zionism won't try.

One thing we know is that the Dogma is very, very powerful; Zionists have drunk a lot of KoolAid, and I for one don't think they can make the psychological turn. They're feeling pretty Chosen.

But now everyone's got all their money on the table, the cards have been dealt, and in the next week or so we're going to see either Israel (and by extension the rest of the Zionist Party) broken, or all-but-Zionism broken.

I ask all barflies: define Zionism.

What is it, how did it get so powerful in so many places, and what are its weaknesses?

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* "mark" is U.S. slang for the innocent, naive person who's about to get cheated

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 5 2024 18:32 utc | 73

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:33 utc | 47

In traditional warfare, defense has the advantage, and to win the attacker has to outnumber the defense.
But in a missile war, the advantage is for the attacker - the defense has to fire two missiles at an incoming missile to have a reasonable chance to down it.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 5 2024 18:35 utc | 74

CalDre | Oct 5 2024 17:50 utc | 55

The US has absolutely no interest in ethnic cleansing or genocide in Palestine

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It doesn't sound like you are an American. Perhaps you should review Patton's speech about Americans only love a winner. It's the culture, the very essence of being an American, that drives policy.

Q: Who ran the GB/US empire from the very beginning? That's right, the infamous Anglo-Saxons. Now it's the jews turn - they are quite proud of their assimilation and have now simply taken the baton.

Q2: If the empire still exists in another generation or so, guess who will be the new leaders? Yep, the Chinese and Indians of Silicon valley.

Like the jews before them, they are becoming completely Americanized. Their children and grandchildren will happily take over the reins of exceptionalism, including genociding anyone who gets in the way of full spectrum dominance.

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 18:36 utc | 75

Great article! The war of George W. Busch was a first try at redrawing the map of east Asia, the Arab spring was a second one, with other means. This is the third try and let's pray that that the cabal doesn't succeed.

Posted by: Isa | Oct 5 2024 18:40 utc | 76

The absence of civil casualties of Iran's missile strikes is what hurts the most to Netanuahu's regime.

Posted by: António Ferrão | Oct 5 2024 16:32 utc | 9

One suspects that this at least partly accounts for why the west insists that Iran's attack the other day was a "failure". The stark contrast with civilian casualties in Lebanon and Occupied Palestine leaves little doubt that the IDF is deliberately killing noncombatants. The destroyed buildings and infrastructure are more-or-less collateral damage.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 5 2024 18:41 utc | 77

I can't remember who it was that posted a link to the documentary of Al Jazeera's investigation into Israeli soldiers' war crimes in Gaza, but thank you very much. Most of the footage is from the IDF soldiers' own videos that they posted on social media to brag about what they have done and are still doing.

The footge that shows the destruction in Gaza is beyond belief. Usually, you might see a photo with one building that has been bombed - to see the immensity of the destruction that is shown by wider camera coverage is....I can't actually think of a word for it. It makes you gasp. I don't know how this area could ever posibly be rebuilt.

Then, too, things you never thought of; mothers telling the children, "Look straight ahead, do not look down at the ground. Keep moving, only look straight ahead," as they are forced to move to another new place. They tell the children this because there are so many dead bodies lying in the road and they don't want the children to see them.

The video is a bit over an hour. It is well done and should be widely viewed. (It should be mandatory viewing for anyone in the US or Israel who supports this shit. They should have to watch it over and over until they get it. If they somehow still never see the grotesqueness of Israel's position, then they should be sent to live on their own island some place where they can fight with each other over scraps of food and never mingle with normal humans again.)

"Investigating war crimes in Gaza I Al Jazeera Investigations"

https://youtu.be/kPE6vbKix6A?si=uFkjTgZrsC5VQUej

Posted by: teri | Oct 5 2024 18:42 utc | 78

US zio elites and would rather burn down the planet the planet than let their hegemony decline.

And most non jewish in the US govt are jesus freaks who want the rapture.

Posted by: cafe con leche8 | Oct 5 2024 18:43 utc | 79

Markw @76

Perhaps you should review Patton's speech about Americans only love a winner.
When was Ukraine a winner?
It's the culture, the very essence of being an American, that drives policy.
Americans are widely against war and Empire. Virtually every election the "peace" candidate wins. But all we get is more woar. Courtesy of the ZioNazis that control the whole rigged system.
Q: Who ran the GB/US empire from the very beginning? That's right, the infamous Anglo-Saxons.
Not true, the Anglo-Saxons at some point partnered with the Jews and it seems rather clear at this point that the Jews have the upper hand in that relationship. That is why US and Europe are being invaded and destroyed by "wokeness" (with Jews obviously in the forefront of those policies) while Israel is expanding and ethnic cleansing.

One small organized group will always dominate a much larger disorganized group.

Now it's the jews turn - they are quite proud of their assimilation and have now simply taken the baton.
Assimilation? Surely you jest. They are in general Jew first, and not by a small margin. So it has been throughout history. Sure they lose some small percent of their population to actual assimilation every generation, as has happened through history, but yet > 2,000 years after the Diaspora, there still is a extremist supremacist, ultra-chauvinistic tribe.
Q2: If the empire still exists in another generation or so, guess who will be the new leaders? Yep, the Chinese and Indians of Silicon valley.
Over the Jews' dead bodies.

Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 18:45 utc | 80

Very good points b. At last West-Asia is creating local cohesion to face the new colonialists.
On a light note there was yesterday a funny show of confusion on the topic "Who is in control? Washington or Tel-Aviv."
On the Intel roundtable with Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern on Judge Napolitano, both said emphatically that Israel was telling Washington what to do.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpyBKhmWA8&t=7s&pp=2AEHkAIB

On Nima's show," Dialogue works" Michael Hudson explained in detail how Washington manipulates proxies like Israel, Ukraine and other regimes to seed chaos and help the US control neighbor countries. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDz1PdMWao

I resolve the apparent contradiction by first introducing rwo different contexts. One is the view of the medias where Israel looks in charge. Second is the view of the ethos (neo-liberals, Wolfowitz, Bolton, etc) who coordinate the multiple elements of US foreign policy like one conducts an orchestra. Hudson explains in the Nima interview that he met those peoples and he worked with some of them in 1973 at the Hudson institute. So, from his perspective Hudson concludes that Washington is the one behind the hatred the Israeli have of their Arab neighbors.

I conclude that Washington shaped the battlefield and provided the weapons and the financing for the Israelis to fall in the trap of hate and violence and become the US proxies while acting under the belief that they are defending their own rights and that they are the ones in control.

Posted by: Richard L | Oct 5 2024 18:45 utc | 81

Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 5 2024 18:41 utc | 78

Hitting mostly military targets preempted the PR from Israel as being the victim.

Take a look at the cep discussion in the west pretending that Iran missiles has such a low cep that can be used only as terrorist weapons. 😎

Posted by: Mario | Oct 5 2024 18:48 utc | 82

A power bloc within the US state did, or so it appeared, stop active deployment of long-range missiles in Ukraine, against the wishes of the State Department fanatics. There have been indications that a power bloc, perhaps associated with the Pentagon, is against a large-scale attack on Iran, and for good reason centred on a likely result diminishing - not strengthening - US position moving forward.

The fall-back plan, if one exists based on a realist understanding that the US and allies are not capable of fulfilling the Neo-con concepts of “new” Mid-East, would be to engineer the collapse of Netanyahu’s government, blame everything on them and freeze the current situation with a ceasefire. In US, persons such as Blinken and McGurk have already been ID’ed as potential scapegoats to be blamed during a realignment of strategic position. This would be based on a realization either a) primacy of Middle East not as vital as once believed b) the costs of alienating most of the rest of the world too steep

Posted by: jayc | Oct 5 2024 18:48 utc | 83

CalDre asks a good question: “What has Israel ever done to benefit the US?

My answer: Israel has created lots of enemies that protect themselves with…American armaments.

Even better when the enemies aren’t neighboring states, but their peoples. The tens of billions of dollars’ worth of armaments the USA has given such toady states as Egypt and Jordan aren’t for use against “Israel”, after all, but against their own repressed and outraged populaces.

Arming both sides of a conflict seems to be an American specialty.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 18:50 utc | 84

forgive the lengthly comment
It is a from the UNZ Review comment thread and is an article unto itself
I post it in full as there is no way to link it

"Astute comment WingsofaDove…
The Jews have been and still are the power behind the throne. But actually running things involves more than strategy and tactics. Execution, if not thoroughly parsed before considerations of strategy are elaborated, much time and material and treasure is destined to be wasted. Strategy must never be a fixed target. Objectives cannot be realized without a thorough examination of capabilities.

Strategy informs tactics. Tactics are informed by capabilities. Capabilities require a realistic assessment of ones treasure, of ones material, of ones time and not least … who will execute the strategy?

What too will be the ultimate cost of a thorough commitment; this is the question that must be asked before moving a single soldier. What do we hope to achieve? This must be the first question. Various diagramming schemes have evolved to map the inputs — all of which are intend to calculate the value of the whole.

Without a thoroughly realistic assessment of success why begin the action. Politicians are opportunists. These are the people whom assume readiness, fire away — mouths and guns blazing, and aim at the wrong targets. They usually have no idea about capability. Most of the time their objectives are pipe dreams.

Obviously Jews have an objective though. Perhaps they have achieved some of their objectives. They are no longer the power behind the throne. They have been exposed. They are though, sitting not on a throne, but rather on a whoopee cushion! The entire world is seeing them for what they are — now, in real time. My dad called them operators — people with an ulterior motive!

This time is different. Jews are still deploying the old scapegoat i.e. blaming the goat for destroying the peace. This time it is obvious the Jews are raising the goats and clearly they are Jews’ tying them to the stake.

And they are not the first people to discover that they have gotten way ahead of themselves. Among other things this includes failing to understand not everyone’s objectives are the same as theirs. Their objectives naturally employ what they think is a winning strategy. But most certainly the Jews are discovering their strategies stink.

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Yes the Jews chose to emerge as the dominant force in America. They planned it. Their tactics though, of destroying America while elevating themselves is backfiring. They objectively failed to consider that much of their success relied on the almost unlimited power of at least two of their strategies. Control over the money supply and thus control over U.S. policy — which they bought and to this day, buy.

Jews effectively control the tax regime and Wall Street! This has led to the financializing of the entire economy of the United States. The U.S. economy is a classic Ponzi scheme. Jews seem oblivious to the fact the citizens of United States cannot afford to aid the Jews’ to realize their objectives. Using America citizens, the Goyim — their treasure, their time, their materials, their children — while undermining their moral conscience is no longer proving to be a durable strategy.

It looks to me as though the Jews do not understand compromise or diplomacy. These two are strategies. But they seem not to understand abrogating treaties they themselves promulgated is undiplomatic. Lying while conniving already how to undermine and abrogate the agreements they sign includes an army of lawyers writing the small print. Their voracious appetites are never sated.

The evidence no such thing as conscience! What evidence of conscience, compromise, or diplomacy is there among Jews’ anywhere — Netanyahu is the classic bull at a gate. He is impatient, hasty, thoughtless, while ignoring everything in his way.

Working behind the scenes for the past five Centuries in America was a patient strategy. Their tactics include: financial dominance by selective lending and foreclosure, the promulgation of inflation and deflation, Ponzi scheming, antagonizing manufactured enemies, contract padding, the promulgation of endless wars and foreign adventures, monopolization of productive assets, selective assassination, bribery, blackmailing etc. — all done on an industrial scale and the list does not include the offshoring of manufacturing and jobs, and the debasement of education and health.

Imagining there is enough treasure, time, material and people willing to fight and capable of fighting for the Jews’ Globalist dominance objectives which are clearly against the Goyim’s best interests is folly.

Clearly when Jews’ say ‘we’, they intend it to have the Goyim imagine they are included in the ‘we’ which the Jews’ deploy when they are encouraging the Goyim to fight for America.

Americans have been presented with a Hobson’s choice in the coming election. Both candidates are positioning themselves to support Israel. Harris claims under her administration Jews will continue to enjoy American protection. Trump claims he will deploy America’s young men to fight Iran.

Why are Americans being propagandized to believe either candidate is other than a puppet of the people with the “real power at the top.”

Did the Jews’ not understand the power of the Internet was not control but instead exposure. It appears the people in the Middle East figured that out. Millions of people around the world witnessed the Mubarak regime being overthrown in Egypt in real time. Before the Internet and cell phone technologies I imagine Mubarak would never have been overthrown. Tyrannies hate the spotlight.

The West is experiencing the spotlight. Its dominant elites hate that. Much of the agonies of the past Century and especially their causes have been successfully covered up. People were not watching the events unfold in real time. They experienced the agonies in real time. But they were covered up. Plenty of useful idiots aided the coverups.

For instance. The Bolsheviks were Jews. They promulgated the Russian Revolution. Indeed Jewish bankers refused to loan the Tzar money necessary to continue the economic growth Russia was successfully pursuing. But the Jewish bankers had no problem underwriting the two revolutions there to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. And what followed was a nightmare of frightful genocide of the majority ethnic Christian population. This was successfully covered up! How many people reading this post have any idea of what the Jews promulgated in Russia. It has been covered up. Today the world would have at least witnessed this evil! Would they have done anything about it?

Only savages absent a conscience could have thought to plan and execute such an evil and then cover it up. Jews are at it again in Ukraine today. Jews got their Balfour Resolution in return for the Jews in America advertising to the gullible citizens of America that the war in Germany was a fight for democracy and freedom. It was for exactly the opposite. The Jews wanted Palestine for a homeland, which once the ink was dry on the Balfour letter to Rothschild, the extermination of the Palestinians — Jews, Christian’s and Moslems — could commence!

There is nothing which occurred in the 20th Century which was not promulgated by Jews’ for Jews’ which was not concealed by a skein of lies, deception, and heinous propaganda few truly understood. Many that did understand were simply disappeared, murdered, assassinated, or banished.

But today the proof is in front of our eyes! What is lacking is paradoxically the collective realization in the West that we are captive of something in which we are imbedded. It appears that the strategy in Gaza is an abnegation of the Jewish convention. They are sacrificing themselves and the world is witness to the terror of the situation. Israel is surrounded! But the Arabs and Persians are refusing to fight on the Jews’ terms of engagement. The resistance is patient, measured and intentionally consistent with the right to defend themselves. Obviously the Jews are the aggressors. The same thing is playing out in Ukraine. The Jews there are sending Ukrainians to fight the Russians. Hundreds of thousands of white Christian men are dying for a false premise. Putin has no intention of making a war of expansion. He is simply and carefully restraining his defense. Something like a good chess player.

The Jews are shaking in frustration. There is nothing in their experience fighting in the spotlight. But there they are! They are doing their utmost to extend their murderous and perfidious regime throughout the world. The world has their number. Today the Jews are alone. They are hated. They are mistrusted. They killed their host country — the U.S. — where they dominate. But they are increasingly isolated. One can almost see them quivering in impotent rage. The world is watching."

by
werpor

Posted by: ld | Oct 5 2024 18:52 utc | 85

Tannenhouser | Oct 5 2024 17:48 utc | 54--

The key IMO is to understand just how long US policy in West Asia has been ongoing and why, which was explained very well by Hudson in his talk with Wolff that I suggest be seen by the world. Most revealing is the fact that the Neocons were initially within the D-party back when there were some differences between the two. Recall that all nationalist movements from Korea onwards were seen as Communist, a propaganda notion that was aided by Soviet aide to those movements and nations seeking independence from Colonialism. The Zionists were seen as actors who could be the US proxy within West Asia. The other major point made by Hudson is the inability of the Outlaw US Empire to wage major wars because of public backlash. So, after Vietnam there were none until 911 provided the basis for the Cheney/Wolfowitz/Clinton batch of Neocons to attempt to overcome the "Vietnam Syndrome" by using NATO initially then the "coalition of the willing" that didn't last very long. The interest pursued was control of oil despite OPEC. Today, Iraq's oil revenues aren't its own but 100% controlled by the Empire. Why the deliberate policy of negating the Two State Solution? To keep the Zionists in control. Note that Zionists within the USG have existed for decades and were then supplanted/augmented by the Evangelicals who are just as rabid as the Zionists. Ater Iraq and the new terrorists cultivated there, the willing abandoned the coalition except for its NATO core, which the Empire controls. Terror proxies became primary policy tools since the US Military had changed into a garrison army, not a strike army, and perpetual war was what the MIC wanted, and one of its biggest money makers is the ongoing conflict in Palestine that's powered by US weapons, ammo, money, and political shielding. The Ukraine project is similar in its nature but aimed at Russia and its goal has existed since WW1.

Clearly, Zionist philosophy and goals were understood early and adopted by a core within USG policy making circles. The hatred of Communists and nationalists was shared with the Zionists who also developed their own local hatred of all those preventing Greater Israel--even the many Jews globally who abhorred that idea. Megalomania and Pleonexia breed intense hatreds for those opposing them. But the realization that those hatreds were very difficult to inoculate into the polity led to what we now see--Team Biden can't come out and say they want all the Arabs in the Levant killed, although their actions say that's exactly what they want. The goal remains control of oil and the region's strategic transport corridors. Also, the funding/corruption process was initiated within the Outlaw US Empire long ago as the aid dollars sent to Zionists were recycled as planned into the US political process--there's a very good reason why AIPAC hasn't been deemed an agent of a foreign nation as that would cutoff the money recycling that corrupts the entire political process at the federal level--three full generations, 60+ years, this has occurred.

Yes, the USG could halt both conflicts in a day but it doesn't want that to happen--it wants them to continue as such happenings have become its life-blood. Monies sent to the MIC get recycled the same way as those provided to the Zionists--that's what makes government employees wealthy well beyond what their salaries and investments would otherwise. Hudson's testimony reveals just how long this has been ongoing, where it began and those who were behind it. Zinoviev called it American Nazism.

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Posted by: ld | Oct 5 2024 18:59 utc | 88

malenkov @85

Israel has created lots of enemies that protect themselves with…American armaments.
Israel's "enemies" don't get US armaments.
Even better when the enemies aren’t neighboring states, but their peoples. The tens of billions of dollars’ worth of armaments the USA has given such toady states as Egypt and Jordan aren’t for use against “Israel”, after all, but against their own repressed and outraged populaces.
Exactly - so that the governments can continue to serve the ZioNazis without being overthrown.
Arming both sides of a conflict seems to be an American specialty.
It is a ZioNazi specialty and, sadly, the US is tightly ruled by ZioNazis.

Posted by: CalDre | Oct 5 2024 19:01 utc | 89

@ CalDre | Oct 5 2024 19:01 utc | 90

Yup, the first “enemies” in my comment should’ve been in irony quotes.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 19:04 utc | 90

Arming both sides of a conflict seems to be an American specialty.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 5 2024 18:50 utc | 85

Good point malenkov, US has indeed mastered the art. However, the art was pioneered by.....jews. It was the Rothschilds and Warburgs who gained immense wealth funding wars at least back to WW1. Hmmmm, that was right after the Balfour/Herzl pact.
Imagine that.

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 5 2024 19:05 utc | 91

Have look at the garage-made drones with AI used in the war, which can decide by itself, who to attack quite precisely, and when. Use Google translate.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:06 utc | 92

Why Hezbollah would win in the end, the garage made missiles, drones, whatnot.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:09 utc | 93

When you make things in the backyard, they can hit better, just like how Houthis hitting the Axis of Evil.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 5 2024 19:10 utc | 94

CalDre | Oct 5 2024 18:45 utc | 81

Thanks for confirming you're not an American - you know nothing about this country, its history, its culture, its motivations nor desires.

And every new immigrant - legal or illegal - also wants to partake in the same system of exploitation and personal enrichment in order to economically advance themselves. That's why they fight tooth and nail to get into the game.

But because you're not an American, naturally you wouldn't understand any of this; that's why I suggest refraining from commenting on this particular aspect.

Posted by: Markw | Oct 5 2024 19:23 utc | 95

"I ask all barflies: define Zionism"

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Zionism is the ideology, the mental software (read the book of Joshua and the book of Deuteronomy) of an Aramaic ruling class of Persian era.

This Mental Software says: there is a dominant people, a "HerrenVolk", who must dominate and enslave "the people of the land", and if they resist they must be expelled or exterminated

This Mental Software was installed very easily in the Roman skulls, as is logical, they were the so-called Christians (400/600-)

so-called because original "Christians" (-300) were a movement of dissidents of the empire

And this Mental Software was installed (ca. 1900) in the skull of some of a medieval ethnicity forged by the rabbis: the Polish Ukrainian Yiddish people

And later (1967-) this Mental Software triumphed in the minds of the American grandchildren of the Ukrainian, Polish, Lithuanian, Byelorussian and Russian Yiddish people

And this delirious and bloody Mental Software is now (1991/97-) the official religion of this colossal and deadly empire, last version of the Roman empire

A German has said with admiration that "our colonial project" (Vladimir Jabotinsky) and its massacres and strong genocidal drive is the vanguard of ... the West

Exactly

Rome + Barbarians + Old Testament = Israel = The West Empire

Posted by: Simon | Oct 5 2024 19:24 utc | 96

I was shocked to hear even Postol peddling this nonsense.

The man is obviously past his sell-by date.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2024 17:40 utc | 51

Postol follow the "expertise" of people in the MIC, and tranmit their suppose "mathematical calculations" to the "public"without making any effort to cross-check the validity of the estimations, and at the end he became a speaker of the MIC, cause if the Iranian missiles are accurate (as they really are) all the US garrisons in the ME, with many thousands of soldiers and saylor are at risk if US help Occupied Palestine to attack Iran, as they have promised to do.

The problem for the MIC is that reality is stronger than all these lies and these negations will bring a desaster to the US military.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 19:27 utc | 97

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5 2024 17:33 utc | 47

Some other experts claim the CEP of the Iranian missiles was between 50 and 100 meters.

I don't think Iran fired at the offshore gas platforms. They seemed pretty clear about what targets they went after. Did I miss it that they said they did?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 5 2024 19:28 utc | 98

B I Think you forget the current us administration is also from the Obama administration. They've had a bone to pick with Hezbollah since they kicked the shit out of the FSA

Posted by: Feck | Oct 5 2024 19:33 utc | 99

My impression for one is that it has strengthened the front against Israel and the positions of Iran in and beyond the Middle East.

And it will continue to do so if they stand up for their brothers and sisters in the region.

The problem with the West is that it is run by chicken hawks. If they were real warriors they would have practiced the art of seppuku long ago based on their endless failure and ignorace. The sooner the better. This can not end soon enough.

I am surprised the Rothschild owned Financial Times would allow such an article. I watched an interview on Piers Morgans sham show where he allowed a guy to rip the Zionists to shreds. Morgan was almost speechless. It appeared to me the guy in the earpiece was telling Piers to shut up and let him talk.

The Zios may have overstayed their welcome. Turn the fucking lights out on them Iran.

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 5 2024 19:34 utc | 100

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