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October 31, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-263

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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farm ecologist | 97
Perhaps something was deleted more than just cookies?

Posted by: NJH | Nov 1 2024 1:59 utc | 101

However, I think you might enjoy this docu, I am watching again now…Bitter lake.
All about stealing…Middle east explained since recently, since western hyenas came…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pn2z7zp1V0
Thank you b.
Posted by: stranger | Oct 31 2024 18:12 utc | 29
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I couldn’t follow this. The narrator starts with the statement that we are all confused and don’t know why.
Then there started a string of film clips that looked interesting and at first looked promising. But the film jump from one thing to the next with little to no explanation and also to different time frames. Sudden mention of “the fighting.” What fighting?
I gave up.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 22:12 utc | 67

You’re not wrong … (although it seems to be blocked in the UK) … Its been several years since I last watched it and you’re right (if my memory serves me) it does seem to jump around at first and it can be a little difficult to get into it but it does settle down and takes you on a journey through the history of Saudi Arabia. From the period when they were just a sand kingdom, to the discovery of oil to the US involvement and the creation of the US based cartel which would dominate the oil market and the use of the military might of the US as a defence of Saudi interests in exchange for the US having first dibs. Also explores the US supported export of Wahabistic philosophy as a counter to encroaching communist ideology.
Its a rewarding if you stick with it. Another interesting item is “The Secret of the Seven Sisters” (4 episodes) also on YT. There is a little overlap but both together offer a good primer (IMHO) of some of the events leading to today’s world.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 1 2024 2:00 utc | 102

Zero Hedge headline today:

China Weaponizes Supply Chain, Sends America’s Largest Drone Maker Into Crisis
Tyler Durden’s Photo
by Tyler Durden
Friday, Nov 01, 2024 – 07:20 AM
America’s largest drone company and supplier of unmanned aircraft to the Ukrainian Armed Forces has been thrown into a supply chain crisis after Beijing imposed sanctions, barring it from sourcing drone parts from Chinese suppliers, according to a new Financial Times report. This is another wake-up call for American companies heavily reliant on China, highlighting the urgent need to ‘friend-shore’ or ‘reshore’ critical supply chains away from the world’s second-largest economy.
Sources familiar with the situation told FT that Beijing imposed sanctions on Skydio to prevent it from sourcing battery components from Chinese firms.

Not a word about ‘Israel’s’ weaponisation of the supply chain with exploding mobiles ffs, but yeah, let’s bleat on about China, shall we?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 2:25 utc | 103

I tell you, folks. These people are out to kill us in every way possible.
And the evidence is all around you!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 1:54 utc | 100
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People who feed their infants “baby powder” are already on a downward evolutionary trajectory.

Posted by: Jane | Nov 1 2024 2:36 utc | 104

People who feed their infants “baby powder” are already on a downward evolutionary trajectory.
Posted by: Jane | Nov 1 2024 2:36 utc | 104
Come on now, Jane.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 3:08 utc | 105

Baby powder asbestos:Arch, Jane.
The asbestos contaminant is in powders made from talc, which is a mineral that is mined. Many, but not all, sources of talc naturally contain a tiny percent of asbestos which was ignored by US regulators for decades. Think about how one uses these body powders—thoroughly aerosolizing them so one easily inhales some. Contaminated talc powders used as a post shower product, especially by women, became the subject of much litigation a couple of decades ago. These suits, both from people who actually got an asbestos related disease and from people who merely were long-term users of the product, successfully sued Johnson and Johnson, the major US manufacturer. Johnson and Johnson supposedly reformed its manufacturing by 1)only utilizing talc sources tested and validated as asbestos-free, and, 2) producing an alternative powder made from corn starch—if you use the latter, you have no worries. Arch is probably old enough like me to remember high school gym shower rooms that had a low platform you were supposed to jump on to release an anti-athlete’s foot powder that probably contained talc. I am not aware of a new round of litigation concerning baby powders, but perhaps the manufacturers couldn’t find enough sources of asbestos-free talc. I think I would have heard of children getting asbestos disease from powder use as infants—so I suspect these are speculative suits with competing lab results with the litigants either detecting or not detecting asbestos in product sourced from supposed asbestos-free mines.

Posted by: mjh | Nov 1 2024 3:10 utc | 106

They “discovered” a land where people were already living! Don’t be so fucking eurocentric!
Posted by: Ново З | Oct 31 2024 20:23 utc | 55

What could anyone possibly have against Eurocentrism?
It’s everywhere in our culture, in the air we breathe, maybe even in mothers’ milk. Perhaps you can think of it as analogous to microplastics, polychlorinated biphenyls, or 3M’s forever chemicals.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 1 2024 3:17 utc | 107

Dear LoveDonbass,
What you say about Queen Isabella, the Inquisition, the slaughter of the Aborigines and other matters relating to the Spanish Empire is what is known as the Black Legend.
Thanks to Spain we are still Catholic and the vast majority of us have Spanish and aboriginal blood.
Posted by: Roberto | Oct 31 2024 20:15 utc | 51
This is about Palestine, but your “argument” forces me to say something. I am Peruvian. We don’t need the black legend to tell things as they are. The arrival of the Europeans was the worst thing that could have happened to us. We had a civilization, our religion, our language and our customs. All of that was destroyed because of your ilk. After the revolt of Tupac Amaru, the Spanish forbade us to speak our own language, wear our traditional clothes and practice our religion. Big deal the Catholic Church, an organization of hypocrites and perverts. Nothing the Spanish imposed we needed.

Posted by: Jaime | Nov 1 2024 3:56 utc | 108

Posted by: Jaime | Nov 1 2024 3:56 utc | 108
Fuck Catholics, Protestants, Zionists and all of them.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2024 4:37 utc | 109

Al Manar last 24 or so hours:
2024-10-31
22:21 Islamic Resistance targeted a gathering of “Israeli” forces in Al-Metula settlement with a missile barrage: statement
22:16 Sayyed Houthi: Hezbollah Resilience Shocked Israeli Enemy More..
17:05 100 Israeli Officers, Soldiers Killed So Far in Ongoing South Lebanon Battle: Hezbollah Attacks Continue More..
16:16 Islamic Resistance fighters bombarded the Krayot area north of Haifa with a large missile barrage: statement
15:02 Islamic Resistance fighters target Israeli gathering at Yiftah settlement with a barrage of rockets: Hezbollah statement
14:47 Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon: Israeli warplanes engage in clashes taking place in Khiam as they cover the withdrawal of Israeli infantry force that infiltrated into the area near the town’s detention center
13:48 Israeli occupation army says some 30 rockets fired in latest barrage of rockets at Karmiel
13:47 5 Israelis killed, one seriously wounded in direct Hezbollah rocket strike near Metula: Israeli media
13:34 Islamic Resistance fighters target Israeli gatherings south of Khiam with barrages of rockets for two times: statements
12:35 Israeli media: Rockets fired from Lebanon towards Karmiel
12:30 Lebanese Health Ministry: 173 paramedics martyred, 277 others injured since the start of the Israeli aggression
11:16 Sirens sound north of Golan over suspected drone infiltration
11:15 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters pound Israeli gatherings south east of Khiam with salvos of rockets for the fourth time today: statement
11:05 Lebanese Army soldier martyred as an Israeli drones strikes its motorbike in Al-Amriyeh south of Tyre
10:10 Islamic Resistance in Iraq Targets Israeli Sites in Drone Strikes More..
10:03 Israeli Kan broadcaster: The army deploys soldiers at observation points along the border with Lebanon to monitor drones
09:51 Martyr as an Israeli drone strikes a motorbike on Qaraoun road in Western Bekaa
09:44 Israeli strike on a house in Boudai, west of Baalbeck: NNA
09:41 National News Agency: Clashes continue in Khiam as explosions rock Kfar Kila
09:20 Israeli media: Sirens sound in Nahariya and its surroundings amid fears of drone infiltrations
00:03 Islamic Resistance bombards Kiryat Shmona settlement with a missile barrage: statement
2024-10-30
23:14 Islamic Resistance strikes IOF gatherings in Kiryat Shmona with a missile barrage: statement
23:07 Islamic Resistance targets IOF gatherings in Liman and Gesher Haziv settlements with missile barrages: statement
20:21 Islamic Resistance strikes an IOF gathering in Wata Khiam (southeastern the town) with a missile barrage: statement

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 4:39 utc | 110

Islamic Resistance Operations Room: Fronts Are Being Securely Supplied with Fighters, Weapons
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2252527
Comment – overview of operations since Likud attack beginning on 17.Sept. Claim of 42 Merkavas destroyed

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 4:43 utc | 111

‘Qualitative Rockets, Attack Drones’ – Resistance Roundup – Day 391
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/qualitative-rockets-attack-drones-resistance-roundup-day-391/
Comment – Northern Front; Lebanese appear to be increasing quantity and quality of actions. Southern Front – another Merkava destroyed by land mines ( Return to Sender) couple of firefights. Mention of IDF “troop carriers” which may mean thin skinned vehicles . TBD
Merkava Tally as of Thursday
night local time
253 destroyed (added 1)
689 approx. damaged (unchanged)

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 4:51 utc | 112

Analysis of IDF’s own reported KIA/WIA since 2.Oct 2023:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-forces-lebanon-and-gaza-suffer-deadliest-month-2024

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 4:55 utc | 113

did the UN General Assembly to pass a resolution calling for boycott, divestment and or sanctions for Israel’s refusal to comply with the Security Council resolutions?
Posted by: chet380

UNGA on 18.Sept 2024 overwhelmingly passed a resolution :
1) Defining the Likud Gov’t as a Apartheid State
2) Demanding Exvacuation of all occupied territories
3) payment of reparations
Full Text
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/ltd/n24/266/48/pdf/n2426648.pdf

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 5:16 utc | 114

This is about Palestine, but your “argument” forces me to say something. I am Peruvian….. Big deal the Catholic Church, an organization of hypocrites and perverts. Nothing the Spanish imposed we needed.
Posted by: Jaime | Nov 1 2024 3:56 utc | 108

Thank you for this perspective. It is relevant to the discussion on Palestine precisely because Zionism, with all its racism, brutality and criminality, is an outgrowth and continuation of European imperialism and colonialism, previous manifestations of which you have so accurately described.

Posted by: Lengai | Nov 1 2024 5:29 utc | 115

‘Dead in the Water’
https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1852085101112479787
“Reports of ‘significant progress’ towards a Lebanon ceasefire agreement are accurate.
The problem is, that this concerns significant progress in negotiations between the US and Israel, particularly the Israeli violations of Lebanese sovereignty Warshington is prepared to accept and support.
Dead in the water.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 1 2024 5:34 utc | 116

It’s possible Bibi plans to defer fully exterminating all Palestinians from Palestine until after defeating, if he can, their allies outside Palestine. For at least two reasons. First, global perceptions remain relatively more important while he wages a war with uncertain outcome. Second, so long as some Palestinians cling to life on the barest of aid, Palestine’s allies must consider how their military choices affect the very people they wish to save. Therefore, these dying Palestinians serve Bibi as human shields.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 1 2024 8:51 utc | 117

Starmer’s repressive state
Right now, ten activists are being held in UK prisons on remand for damaging weapons intended for use in Gaza. They are being shockingly mistreated, in an outright abuse of draconian counter-terrorism powers. As their family and friends, we’re asking you to sign and share this petition today.
Action against Israeli weapons in the UK
The Filton 10 are charged with taking direct action in August this year to disable weapons at a facility belonging to Israel’s largest arms manufacturer, Elbit Systems, in Bristol. The weapons included drones currently being used in Gaza, which mimic the sounds of children in distress in order to draw civilians out to help, in order to kill them. 
Six of the ten were arrested on site. Four were arrested in raids on their homes by counter-terrorism police – one of them at gunpoint.
Who is behind this chilling repression of activists? There is evidence of conversations between the Home Office, the CPS, the Israeli Embassy and Elbit Systems UK about stopping pro-Palestine activists which is deeply concerning.  
Treated like ‘terrorists’
Why are our loved ones being treated like terrorists? Six of them are aged 20 – 30. All have strong social consciences – many do voluntary work to help vulnerable people in their communities. They couldn’t bear to see the scale of the suffering of innocent people in Gaza, especially children, and strongly oppose the genocide that Elbit Systems is profiting from, and that the UK government is complicit in.
Yet, in a flagrant abuse of counter-terrorism powers, the ten were held incommunicado in solitary confinement and interrogated constantly for a week without charge.
Despite only subsequently being charged with non-terror offences (including aggravated burglary and criminal damage) they have been held in prison on pre-trial remand since then, and are still being subjected to greater restrictions upon their rights and freedoms than those faced by regular prisoners, on spurious counter-terrorism grounds. 
This has included being denied reading materials and the right to practice religion,  intrusive medical testing, and restrictions on association with other prisoners and communication with the outside world.
One of the ten has been designated an escape risk without due cause, so that they are subjected to additional ill-treatment, including being woken up every hour, all night, every night. This sleep deprivation is a clearly politically motivated form of psychological torture. 
https://subversivesuburbanite.wordpress.com/2024/10/19/is-my-daughter-a-terrorist-for-trying-to-stop-a-genocide/

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Nov 1 2024 9:11 utc | 118

As I predicted months ago, regardless of what happens to Hamas, regardless of the weakness of the P.A, resistance will emerge naturally from the very children of Palestine:
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZGq1qHJbGfA?si=zulvLjwP6PMhx24F
Palestinian armed youth groups beginning to form on the West Bank.
Let no man call this “terror”!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 9:18 utc | 119

It’s possible Bibi plans to defer fully exterminating all Palestinians from Palestine until after defeating, if he can, their allies outside Palestine.
Posted by: I forgot | Nov 1 2024 8:51 utc | 117
In which case we can breathe a sigh of belief because this will never happen.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 9:19 utc | 120

Hamas and Hezbollah need some of these in Gazza.
https://sonar21.com/us-provides-proof-that-north-korean-troops-are-on-the-ground-in-ukraine/
Russian armored car bomb they use on the front lines of the SMO. They would be very effective in Gazza and Lebanon.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Nov 1 2024 9:22 utc | 121

meanwhile back at the ranch
https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1851817049544175917
Richard Medhurst @richimedhurst
Gaza exposed the West’s moral standing, and the facade of human rights and free speech
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1852106469669237165
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
Footage from Al-Awda Hospital’s morgue…
Palestinian journalist Hani Abu Rezeq reports: Israeli attacks targeting families in Nuseirat and Deir Balah have claimed the lives of 21 Palestinian civilians, including children and women.
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/34925
ResistanceTrench
🇮🇱⚡🇵🇸 The few survivors of the Abu Nasr family from the aggression on the Beit Lahia:
The occupation destroyed the residential building days ago without prior warning
We buried 117 members of our family.
The targeted building housed 250 civilians and we walked surrounded by the dead bodies of our loved ones and relatives.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 1 2024 9:25 utc | 122

“I think I would have heard of children getting asbestos disease from powder use as infants—so I suspect these are speculative suits with competing lab results with the litigants either detecting or not detecting asbestos in product sourced from supposed asbestos-free mines.”
Posted by: mjh | Nov 1 2024 3:10 utc | 106
You are ill informed:
J&J denied the claim. Baby Powder was asbestos-free, it said. As the case proceeded, J&J was able to avoid handing over talc test results and other internal company records Hobson had requested to make the case against Baby Powder.
Coker had no choice but to drop her lawsuit, Hobson said. “When you are the plaintiff, you have the burden of proof,” he said. “We didn’t have it.”
That was in 1999. Two decades later, the material Coker and her lawyer sought is emerging as J&J has been compelled to share thousands of pages of company memos, internal reports and other confidential documents with lawyers for some of the 11,700 plaintiffs now claiming that the company’s talc caused their cancers — including thousands of women with ovarian cancer.
A Reuters examination of many of those documents, as well as deposition and trial testimony, shows that from at least 1971 to the early 2000s, the company’s raw talc and finished powders sometimes tested positive for small amounts of asbestos, and that company executives, mine managers, scientists, doctors and lawyers fretted over the problem and how to address it while failing to disclose it to regulators or the public.
The documents also depict successful efforts to influence U.S. regulators’ plans to limit asbestos in cosmetic talc products and scientific research on the health effects of talc.
A small portion of the documents have been produced at trial and cited in media reports. Many were shielded from public view by court orders that allowed J&J to turn over thousands of documents it designated as confidential. Much of their contents is reported here for the first time.” (1)
1. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 9:52 utc | 123

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 1:54 utc | 100
It is hard to mine pure talc-most talc deposits have asbestos with it.
No conspiracy just corporate ‘cheapness, and sloppiness now J and J will be paying the price-see my above post.

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 9:57 utc | 124

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 9:52 utc | 123
You’re confused. Baby powder vs. powdered milk, aka “formula”… Two different topics.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2024 11:34 utc | 125

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 9:52 utc | 123
I suppose the original intent of “baby powder” was misused before you replied. The OP clearly meant infant formula which is breast milk substitute. They may have wrongly called that “baby powder” (“giving” or “feeding”) but you are of course correct about actual talcum baby powder. And to add to your comment, I was aware of other lawsuits that didn’t involve babies at all with respect to such products containing asbestos.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2024 11:47 utc | 126

Egypt is accepting arms shipments for Israel:
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxBDmA7kGspVCmPt2v593Wj_PL73omevNl?si=QeSwXzHjiQXTnUDh
The Arabs are complicit in their own eradication.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 12:20 utc | 127

BINGO!
“Check out that hustler Bernie’s article on Guardian today. He explains why you should vote for Kamala despite her support for Israel’s “war”.
Nobody has done more to ruin the reputation of Socialism since Stalin. The guy is the worst enemy of the working class in the US today.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2024 20:18 utc | 53

Posted by: LindaJ | Nov 1 2024 12:43 utc | 128

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 9:52 utc | 123
You’re confused. Baby powder vs. powdered milk, aka “formula”… Two different topics.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 1 2024 11:34 utc | 125
Thanks for the clarification

Posted by: canuck | Nov 1 2024 12:57 utc | 129

Israel has no intention of ending its terror campaign. The US doesn’t care.
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Israel will ask US Congress to pressure South Africa to withdraw genocide case at ICJ: Israeli media
As reported by Israeli news website Walla, a classified Israeli Foreign Ministry document said that Israeli officials want members of the US Congress to warn South Africa that there will be serious consequences for continuing the case against Israel.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240831-is-israel-extending-its-war-on-gaza-to-the-west-bank/
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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has said that “Gaza must be reoccupied”.
“The Israeli army will remain in the Gaza Strip for many years to ensure security,” Smotrich said, in an interview with Israel’s Makor Rishon newspaper.
“The army will maintain operational security control in the long term in Gaza to achieve the objectives of the war and to prevent Hamas from recovering.
“In my estimation, a political settlement will be reached by the end of the year,” he added.
AJ live-blog
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The occupation army is still preventing the entry of any aid into the northern Gaza Strip.
The occupation is carrying out extensive bulldozing operations in Block 5 in Jabalia camp, north of the Gaza Strip.
The occupation committed a massacre against 5 families from the Al-Ghandour family in Jabalia camp
A member of the Al-Ghandour family spoke to me a short while ago, confirming that the Israeli occupation aircraft committed a massacre against his family and brothers in the Jabalia camp in northern Gaza yesterday, and until now no one has been able to reach the place where the four-story house was bombed, and there are more than 120 people inside the house, and there are also displaced families.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?after=56943&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Washington Post:
Nearly a quarter of buildings in 25 Lebanese municipalities near the Israeli border were damaged or destroyed
16 martyrs and more than 30 injuries as a result of the occupation bombing two houses in the new camp area north of Nuseirat in the central Gaza Strip
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Nov 1 2024 13:54 utc | 130

to Jaime and others regarding the destruction of civilizations. First, yes, the Inca were an amazing talented inventive society. It’s beyond a tragedy. It’s an outrage. Unfortunately it’s common. I spent time with the Navajo in Murika the Cruel. Navajo children were taken forcibly from their homes and forbidden to speak their own language. We see it also in ukraine, where speaking russian is not permitted. Izzyhell is using the same MO in palestine. Destroy the culture. Steal the land. There is a dismal sameness to these stories.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Nov 1 2024 14:03 utc | 131

Forget the stratagems, whether financial, military, or (a distant last) diplomatic. It’s a might makes right world and that’s an absolute paradigm and fairly easy to calculate. Second place means servility and the USA arrived there some time ago. They will strut and squawk like another Anglo runner-up now does, one of whose power realists, Thomas Babington Macaulay, swept away the facades and got it brutally right.
Might too often wins out and there’s already a new boss in town.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Nov 1 2024 14:04 utc | 132

This is too biblical. I think it’s time to do a numerology chart on Netanyahu.
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Mark of the beast:
According to the Bible, in the Book of Revelation, the “mark of the beast” is a symbol representing allegiance to an evil power, often interpreted as the Antichrist, where people will be forced to receive a mark on their hand or forehead in order to buy or sell goods, signifying their submission to this power; this mark is associated with the number 666 and is described as a sign of disobedience to God and rejection of Jesus’ faith. 
Article:
When Israel re-arrested Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank town of Dura, the detainees faced familiar treatment.
They were blindfolded, handcuffed, insulted and kept in inhumane conditions. More unusual was that each man had a number written on his forehead.
The Israeli army launched a massive arrest campaign in Dura, south of Hebron, on Thursday morning, targeting more than 20 former prisoners.
Among them were several prominent Hamas activists who Israel had previously detained after the outbreak of the war on Gaza and had released from prison a few months ago.
Osama Shaheen, who was released in August after 10 months of administrative detention, told Middle East Eye that soldiers brutally stormed his house, smashing his furniture.
They took him to a military vehicle, blindfolded and handcuffed him, and placed him with other detainees in the house of Nayef Rjoub, a former member of the Palestinian Authority’s parliament, the Palestinian Legislative Council.
“I was interrogated violently and beaten on various parts of my body, especially my head and chest,” Shaheen said. 
“The soldiers turned us from names into numbers, and every detainee had a number that they used to provoke him during his arrest and call him by number instead of name. To them, we are just numbers.”
Ayed Dudin, a paramedic who was released from Israeli prison in July, said soldiers had stormed his home too, wreaking havoc. However, Dudin was out, providing medical support to people wounded by the raid, so the Israelis took his son Mohammed instead.
“I received a phone call from an officer in the Israeli army and he asked me to surrender myself so that my son would be released. Although I went to do so, they didn’t release Mohammad and kept him detained with me,” Dudin told MEE.
Dudin said he was also subjected to beatings and abuse while detained in Rjoub’s house, which the soldiers provocatively raised an Israeli flag over.
He, too, had a number written on his forehead.
In the nearby village of Tabaqa, the Israelis turned another Palestinian home into a detention and interrogation centre, where residents endured similar treatment.
During the raid, which lasted 11 hours, soldiers also distributed leaflets and posters bearing threatening warnings not to attack the army or Israeli settlers.
New methods of intimidation
Arrest campaigns are near daily in the West Bank. 
While Israeli troops hunt specific targets, they often sweep up former prisoners at the same time, which Palestinians say is a way of intimidating them and exerting pressure on their communities.
When the troops storm West Bank towns and villages, life is completely shut down. Snipers are deployed on buildings while streets are flooded with soldiers and military vehicles that prevent the movement of local residents.
In Dura, all schools were suspended on Thursday due to the raid.
Imad Abu Hawash, an activist from the Palestine Centre for Human Rights (PCHR), told MEE that these raids are increasingly becoming longer, lasting for hours at a time and terrorising Palestinians in their homes, which are often ransacked.
According to the PCHR, most detainees are beaten during these campaigns, and the Israeli army is trying new steps to intimidate them.
“Usually, a Palestinian is arrested and transferred to a known interrogation centre where he is interrogated. But the Israeli soldiers have replaced that with these humiliating measures, and they say that they have the right to detain any person for six hours without reporting him as a detainee to the Israeli army,” Abu Hawash said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-brands-palestinian-detainees-numbers-their-foreheads
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Posted by: teri | Nov 1 2024 14:09 utc | 133

June Jordan wrote this, many years ago:
How many of my brothers and my sisters
will they kill
before I teach myself
retaliation?
Shall we pick a number?
South Africa for instance:
do we agree that more than ten thousand
in less than a year but that less than
five thousand slaughtered in more than six
months will
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH ME?
I must become a menace to my enemies.
https://poets.org/poem/i-must-become-menace-my-enemies

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2024 14:18 utc | 134

Yet another CEASEFIRE FAIL:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-pounds-lebanon-gaza-after-us-truce-push-2024-11-01/
I told you that Bibi is gonna ground and pounding right through the fall. He could care less about the pants-shitter over in AIPAC-land. Time’s up, asshole.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Nov 1 2024 14:50 utc | 135

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241030-un-briefing-in-us-congress-cancelled-after-rapporteur-labelled-anti-semitic/
UN briefing in US Congress cancelled after Rapporteur labelled ‘anti-Semitic’
A planned briefing to Congress by the UN’s Special Rapporteur on Palestine, Francesca Albanese, on Gaza was cancelled due to political pressure, according to organisers.
American author and human rights activist, Medea Benjamin, shared a video expressing frustration at Congress, with Albanese noting that her report highlighted Israel’s crimes against Gaza, questioning the US role in undermining 75 years of progress in international law.
In a video posted on X, Benjamin criticised Congress, citing allegations in Jewish Insider that labelled Albanese’s position as anti-Semitic, which reportedly led Democratic leadership to pressure for the cancellation….
….She added, “Now this is crazy. You can label anybody anti-Semitic who is faulting Israel for the slaughter that it’s doing but they’re not anti-Semitic. And Francesa Albanese is not anti-Semitic but, because of that article, the representative who was hosting us here got scared; he said he was getting calls from ‘higher ups’, which we assume is higher up in the Democratic Party that pressured him to cancel this briefing.”
https://x.com/medeabenjamin/status/1851343785889812987
Medea Benjamin @medeabenjamin
UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese was set to brief Congress today on her latest findings from Gaza. But in a last-minute twist, pressure from “higher-ups” led to the cancellation. The halls of Congress should echo with voices of truth and accountability, not fear and censorship.
Israel’s actions in Gaza deserve scrutiny under international law, and it’s unacceptable that those exposing these realities are silenced. Our gratitude goes out to the Congressional staffers who were ready to hear from the UN Special Rapporteur about Gaza.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 1 2024 16:14 utc | 136

Posted by: teri | Nov 1 2024 14:09 utc | 133
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Is there a point to all of this mumbo jumbo, other than the Israelis are arse holes and liars? Revelations? Really?

Posted by: Ed | Nov 1 2024 16:39 utc | 137

Come on now, Jane.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 3:08 utc | 105
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Meaning what, pray tell?

Posted by: Jane | Nov 1 2024 17:07 utc | 138

When Israel re-arrested Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank town of Dura, the detainees faced familiar treatment.
They were blindfolded, handcuffed, insulted and kept in inhumane conditions. More unusual was that each man had a number written on his forehead.
Posted by: teri | Nov 1 2024 14:09 utc | 133
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Teri, about the numbers on the foreheads of 20 (?) Palestinian prisoners. The Nazis tattooed numbers on the arms of hundreds of thousands of Jewish prisoners in concentration camps during WW2, to keep a record of family relations and the number of Jews disposed of.
I suspect that the Zionists are likewise numbering the 10,000, or so Palestinian hostages that these modern Nazis have locked up in Israeli prisoners. Apparently, the Zio’s decided to go back and assign numbers, and update records, for prisoners who got released before they were assigned numbers.
I doubt if Revelations had anything to do with the Nazis in WW2, are the Zio-Nazis today.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 1 2024 17:09 utc | 139

reply to 139
How do you say “Einsatzgruppen” in modern Hebrew, I wonder?

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 1 2024 17:19 utc | 140

Mark Sleboda, on Nima’s video on “Dialogue Works” raised an important point regarding Israel’s economy:
Currently, the large low cost Palestinian labour force Israel is used to exploiting is currently (mostly) frozen out of the economy.
‘Israel’ is basically strangling itself economically in multiple ways and not only the obvious ones.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 18:09 utc | 141

Al Manar live feed previous 20 hours
Lebanese health ministry issues latest toll of Zionist aggression: 2897 martyrs and 13150 injuries
20:01 Islamic Resistance strikes an IOF gathering in south of Khiam town with a barrage of precision missiles: statement
19:45 Speaker Berri: ‘Israel’ Rejected Lebanon’s Ceasefire Roadmap, Gaza Scenario “Possible” More..
17:12 Sirens sounded in Haifa for fear of drone infiltration: Israeli media
17:10 70 Thousand Israeli Soldiers Unable to Control Lebanon’s Border Villages: Hezbollah Historic Fight Makes More Feats More..
15:03 Islamic Resistance fighters fired barrage of rockets at Kiryat Shmona settlement: Hezbollah statement no. 4
15:01 Israeli warplanes create sonic booms over Beirut, Sidon and surrounding areas
14:49 Speaker Berri: ‘Israel’ wasted since September more than a real chance to achieve ceasefire deal, restore calm and return displaced on both sides of the border
14:43 Speaker Nabih Berri: We affirm Lebanon’s commitment to implementing UN Resolution 1701 as the only option to achieve security and stability in the region
14:30 Islamic Resistance fighters fire a barrage of rockets at Ma’alot-Tarshiha settlement with a salvo of rockets: Hezbollah statement no. 3
14:28 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters target Karmiel settlement with a barrage of rockets: statement no. 2
14:11 Israeli strikes renew on Baalbek and nearby towns: local media
14:00 Casualties as some 30 rockets fired from Lebanon at Karmiel, Ma’alot-Tarshiha and other nearby settlements: Israeli media
13:58 Mikati: ‘Israel’ Rejects Ceasefire, Evacuation Warnings Additional War Crime More..
13:58 Massacre in Beit Lahia: Devastating Airstrikes in Center of the Strip Leave Dozens Dead More..
13:38 Yemeni masses flock to Sab’een Square in Sanaa to voice solidarity with Gaza and Lebanon
12:54 Islamic Resistance fighters targeted at dawn on Friday an Israeli gathering in Khiam’s Al-Maslakh neighborhood with a massive barrage of rockets: Hezbollah statement
12:48 Day 40 of Israeli Aggression: Despite Wide Destruction, Lebanon “Won’t Abandon Palestine” More..
12:03 Ahronoth: 4,600 rockets and drones have been fired at ‘Israel’ in October
12:02 Yedioth Ahronoth: Israeli army’s failure in the ground offensive is due to difficulty in locating the hideouts of Hezbollah fighters
11:59 Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon: Confrontation axes at Khiam witness a decline in the intensity of Israeli movements as the infiltration into the border town has failed
11:38 Metula declared closed military zone following the killing of 5 Israelis in Hezbollah rocket attack on Thursday
11:03 Iraqi Resistance Attacks 6 Israeli Targets Across Occupied Territories More..
10:08 UN: 345,000 Palestinians face catastrophic hunger this winter as food aid falls
09:23 At least 11 people martyred and 14 others injured in Israeli airstrikes on Baalbek and the surrounding towns: National News Agency
09:22 Casualties in an Israeli drone strike on a residential apartment in Ain Al-Rimmeneh town between Qmatiyeh and Aley in Mount Lebanon
09:19 14 Israeli airstrikes target Beirut’s Dahiyeh overnight
09:18 Haaretz: Netanyahu exploiting assassination threat to avoid testifying in his corruption trial
09:15 Massive Israeli raids target the southern towns of Bint Jbeil, Shehabiyeh and Majadel
01:31 Islamic Resistance Operations Room: Fronts Are Being Securely Supplied with Fighters, Weapons More..
2024-10-31
22:21 Islamic Resistance targeted a gathering of “Israeli” forces in Al-Metula settlement with a missile barrage: statement
22:16 Sayyed Houthi: Hezbollah Resilience Shocked Israeli Enemy

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 18:51 utc | 142

A great under 2-minute long YT video on why the West does not understand the Islamic world or Russia and China.
*link*
The West sees power as the justification for wielding power. Everything and anything should be done to gain and hold power, regardless of morality or legality. Think Gollum and his obsession with the One Ring (the ring was a metaphor in LOTR for the corrupting effects of using power).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 1 2024 18:52 utc | 143

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 22:38 utc | 70
I am in no way making excuses for the empire, their focus is maintaining power, at almost any cost. Whatever China has done so far, it does not compare to what the empire has done. That said, their attitude is worrying.
I’m getting old. I only vaguely now remember the several books I read back in the day about China’s invasion and brutal takeover of Tibet, and their subsequent erasure of the religion and culture there. And yes, even assuming all accusations were true it still does not compare to what is happening in Gaza today.
Of course China is an adversary of the empire, so any internal opposition will be contacted by empire intel (with or without them knowing that) and supported by empire propaganda. So how much of what I hear relative to Falun Gong, for example (like, massive disappearances, organ donor concentration camps) is true? I don’t know. Supposedly though Falun Gong members in China at one time outnumbered Communist party members, but I’m told they do not exist there today.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 19:45 utc | 144

Two hundred fifty three IDF MBT Merkava destroyed and 689 heavily damaged.
That works out to approx 1000 tankers KIA from the MBT’s destroyed.
That works out to approx. 2800 tankers WIA from the MBT’s damaged.
Those casualty estimates are for IDF armored forces only.
IDF infantry losses are harder to estimate, but are substantial knowing the difficulty of fighting well armed insurgents in a Stalingrad type environment in Gaza. The insurgents hold all the cards, they know the terrain and have access to the extensive tunnel system too. In addition they are well armed with RPG’s and ATGM’s and 81mm mortars, light machine guns, sniper rifles, and AK74’s.
So the IDF stated of 723 KIA’s appears completely unreliable (surprise , surprise). Its more likes 2000 to 2500 KIA’s with 6,000 plus WIA’s………..
This is a massive casualty count and does even include the 700 IDF KIA’s on October 7th (many of whom were unarmed female army “observers” stationed in FOP’s near the Gaza borderline.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 1 2024 19:53 utc | 145

N.B. – those IDF armored vehicle casualty estimates only apply to MBT’s; hundreds more APC’s (many obsolete US M113’s), IFV’s, trucks, jeeps, Humvees (many incredibly still equipped with canvas side panels -wow – apparently the IDF never learned the painful lesson of US forces in Iraq, who early on in 2003 had the majority of Humvee not equipped with undercarriage and side armor resulting in massive losses) have also been destroyed or heavily damaged by ATGM and RPG fire………so my estimates may very well be a tad bit conservative at 2.5 K KIA’s and 6K WIA’s.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 1 2024 20:01 utc | 146

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 19:45 utc | 144
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Some of the stuff you posted is obviously wrong. Falun Gong is a relatively modern thing. It didn’t exist 150 years ago.
I presume you are an American. As difficult as it may be for you to come to peace with it, the Empire lies, as every Empire before it lied.
America’s stock in trade is bullshit and propaganda.
Embracing those facts will not make you happy. It may even cause you existential distress. Nonetheless, I’d rather you be disturbed than deceived. Our lives are too short to operate in delusion.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Nov 1 2024 20:02 utc | 147

@michaelj72 | Nov 1 2024 16:14 utc | 136
The US Congress is a cesspit of avaricious vipers feeding on the profits of the apocalyptic genocide of Palestinian generations.
Cicero would nuke it.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Nov 1 2024 20:02 utc | 148

“Of course, China is an adversary of the empire, so any internal opposition will be contacted by empire intel (with or without them knowing that) and supported by empire propaganda. So how much of what I hear relative to Falun Gong, for example (like, massive disappearances, and organ donor concentration camps) is true? I don’t know. Supposedly though Falun Gong members in China at one time outnumbered Communist party members, but I’m told they do not exist there today.”
Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 19:45 utc | 144
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Be careful what you read about China. The West is always looking for a sore to scratch when it comes to China and Russia (this was also true with former Soviet Union states as well). The Tiananmen Square Incident in 1989 was a CIA-NED operation:
“The Tiananmen Square protests began in April 1989 as genuine student protests to mourn the death of Hu Yaobang, a political reformer and former General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party. However, the protests were quickly leveraged by British and American intelligence and transformed into a prototypical ‘color revolution’ aimed at overthrowing the Chinese Communist government.
“The operation was supported by the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED); US radio station Voice of America; a local NGO for the “reform and opening of China” funded by US billionaire George Soros; and US color revolution expert Gene Sharp, who visited Beijing during the protests. Moreover, in early May 1989, former CIA officer James R. Lilley was appointed the US Ambassador to China.”
“In 1992 the Vancouver Sun revealed that the CIA had indeed supported the Tiananmen protests. Yet unlike the CIA-supported Romanian Revolution in December 1989, the Tiananmen Square protests ultimately failed. In response, a newspaper in British-controlled Hong Kong launched the bogus Tiananmen Square “massacre” story which was then amplified globally by the New York Times.”
Read more: https://swprs.org/tiananmen-square-massacre-deception/

Posted by: Ed | Nov 1 2024 20:10 utc | 149

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 19:45 utc | 144
China is sensitive to religious cults, since their bloodiest war ever, (Taiping Rebellion) was between a cult and the empire.
BTW, the rebellion by some estimates was the highest casualty war in history, ww ii included. It was massive and crude, (mostly hand weapons and bows mixed with firearms, and poor first aid).

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 1 2024 20:12 utc | 150

can a scorpion change its spots?

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 1 2024 20:12 utc | 151

whoa, this is the Palestine thread, and there is actually a newer China thread active..

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 1 2024 20:14 utc | 152

Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 19:45 utc | 144
Tibet; Most of the population of Tibet was made up of “serfs” (slaves) for the religious and elite classes. One thing that has disappeared is the abject poverty they lived in at that time. Although I tried to find a reasonable description of today’s Tibet via Google, all the sites mentioned seem to have been made by people who have never visited China!
Which is a major fault of western “Experts”, that so few have ever actually made a trip there.
A site for the pleasures of China today can be found at; https://x.com/RnaudBertrand. French analyst married to a Chinese lady. Who is at present making another trip around the country. (They eat very well) Second, non-political site “Shanghi Panda”. https://x.com/thinking_panda Very pro-Chinese and some of the visualizations about Chinese newly made infrastructure, plus other facts might lead you to change your mind.
Uighurs have also been misrepresented in westren Media. (One notable) propaganda photo showed Uighur drug addicts kneeling in a formation. The signs (in chinese) explained who they were, while for our MSM they were “political” prisoners.
This lack of real knowledge and understanding of China is a serious flaw in western thinking, and will be a serious handicap in the future.

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 1 2024 20:32 utc | 153

UWDude | Nov 1 2024 20:14 utc | 152
oops. will repost on rlevant thread (Although there is more to China than weapons)

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 1 2024 20:36 utc | 154

Tobias Cole,
Nice work !
Your estimate is a likely undercount.
My very rough guesstimate is between 20,000 and 50,000 KIA/WIA

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 20:56 utc | 155

imagine the incredible outcry and vitriol in the Western capitals and the mainstream propaganda system I mean the Great Free Press, if Hezbollah or Iran did this kind of mass murder of innocent people/children in say tel aviv or haifa in israel…
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/11/1/live-israeli-attacks-kill-95-in-gaza-6-medics-among-45-killed-in-lebanon
Fifty children killed in Israeli attack on northern Gaza
Two Israeli attacks on residential buildings in northern Gaza killed 84 Palestinians, including over 50 children, Gaza’s government media office says.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 1 2024 20:58 utc | 156

Canadian Zio Lobby Want ‘Bubble Zones’ for Protests
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1851819841218396179
“The Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs [aka the lobby] wants to confine opponents of Israel’s genocidal regime to ‘bubble-zones’.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, the greatest threat to civil liberties in Canada is the Israel lobby.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 1 2024 21:12 utc | 157

The Birth of Israel and the Death of Zionism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSD6s61grck
“Can Israel survive the current war in Gaza? Israeli historian Illan Pape believes it can’t.”
Trajectories of Resistance in the ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3QVVWWkD3o
“Gaza in context – a collaborative teach-in series, with Begum Burak and Nijmeh Ali.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 1 2024 21:21 utc | 158

15 Israeli forces killed, injured in northern Gaza as Qassam fighters target hideout (PressTV – TG)
Fighters with the armed wing of the Palestinian resistance movement Hamas have announced killing and wounding as many as 15 Israeli troops during a complex operation in the northern part of the Gaza Strip.
https://t.me/presstv/116539

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 1 2024 22:00 utc | 159

Won’t happen cuz UN so corrupted, but at least a door was opened:
https://tass.com/world/1865941
UN should suspend Israel’s membership for genocide in Gaza — expert
“It is time to consider suspending the credentials of Israel as a member state of the UN,” the organization’s website wrote, quoting the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territory. Albanese said the international community must recognize what is happening in Gaza as genocide and “understand the bigger design behind what’s happening in Palestine today.” It is not simply war crimes and crimes against humanity that the Palestinians are experiencing, she pointed out.
The UN rapporteur acknowledged suspending Israel’s credentials as a member state is a sensitive topic, explaining that all countries in the world have difficulties in respecting human rights. Nevertheless, no other country has maintained an unlawful occupation that violates decades of UN resolutions as Israel has, she said.
The report also notes that Tlaleng Mofokeng, the UN special rapporteur on the right to health, accused Israel and its allies of “knowingly and intentionally imposing famine and dehydration” on people in the Gaza Strip and warned that these practices would stunt an entire generation. “The Strip now is a wasteland of rubble and human remains,” she said, adding that the Israeli leadership’s promise last year to destroy Gaza has been fulfilled.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 1 2024 22:02 utc | 160

Iran, Russia to sign partnership agreement ‘in near future’: Lavrov

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has announced that his country will sign a strategic partnership agreement with Iran “in the near future.”
“The treaty is being prepared for signing in the near future,” Lavrov said at a Eurasian security summit in Belarus on Thursday.
“It will affirm both parties’ commitment to closer defense cooperation and collaboration for regional and global peace and security,” he added.
His remarks came as Russian President Vladimir Putin last month approved a proposal forwarded by the country’s foreign ministry for the signing of a strategic partnership agreement with Iran.
Last week, Putin invited Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian to visit Russia to ink a comprehensive cooperation agreement.

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/11/01/736392/Iran-Russia-sign-partnership-agreement-soon-Lavrov

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 1 2024 22:24 utc | 161

Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma, specialist and follower of Hebrew affairs
“Pentagon:
Deploying ballistic missile defense destroyers, fighters, tankers and long-range bombers to the Middle East
US equipment to begin arriving within months as aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln prepares to depart
We will deploy B-52 strategic bombers to the Middle East
12 B-52 bombers will be stationed in the region in the coming hours
Deployment of additional military assets in the Middle East builds on decision to deploy THAAD missile system in Israel
Deploying additional assets is part of our commitment to protect our citizens and forces, defend Israel, and de-escalate tensions”

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 1 2024 22:33 utc | 162

Erdogan’s dishonest statement on Palestine and Lavrov’s interview with Turkish daily Hurriyet are at the top of the non-Western news, Here’s my take, “Erdogan’s Two-Faced Ukraine Policy–Lavrov,” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/erdogans-two-faced-ukraine-policy

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 1 2024 22:45 utc | 163

I watched Bill Clinton give a stump speech for Harris in Michigan on 10/30/24. Old Bill said that, and I paraphrase, Hamas forced Israel (the IDF) to murder women, children, and old people, because Hamas chose to hide among the civilian population.
So, where does Bill Clinton (who dodged the draft by going to school at Oxford), think that Hamas should fight the IDF terrorist? Where in Gaza can one fight in a 5-mile x 20-mile open prison without there being civilians nearby? The answer is that they aren’t supposed to fight, they are supposed to surrender and be killed.
I have heard this excuse before, but it doesn’t hold water. Israel decided to build a wall around Gaza to imprison Gazans, so the blame belongs to Israel. Also, imprisoning a large portion (2.4 million) of a colonized population is, by itself, a crime against humanity, that the Palestinian people, and their designated leadership, have every right to violently resist. I think Bill knows that already; he is a lying sack of dog poop.
You can see it on today’s Judging Freedom with Larry and Ray @ about 26.39.

Posted by: Ed | Nov 1 2024 22:48 utc | 164

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 1 2024 20:32 utc | 153
It seems I’ve gotten an off topic on China going within this thread, that was not my intent, and I’ll not comment on it further.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Nov 1 2024 23:12 utc | 165

The fool’s errand of Amos Hochstein and other lethal follies in Lebanon…

Even ten days ago, Gallant was saying that Israel had moved from “the phase of defeating Hezbollah to the phase of destroying it.” But Gallant’s tone would shift in a matter of days.
What happened in the interim was that Hezbollah regrouped and redoubled its military efforts in repelling the Israeli onslaught. Instead of collapsing after the assassination of its entire top military echelon, rocket fire from Lebanon increased in intensity and destructive capacity, challenging Israeli claims that the majority of Hezbollah’s arsenal had been destroyed or disabled.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/11/israel-is-hitting-a-wall-in-lebanon-what-is-its-endgame/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2024 23:14 utc | 166

Ta-Nehisi Coates says ‘I don’t give a fuck’ about backlash for speaking on Palestine
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ta-nehisi-coates-does-not-care-backlash-speaking-palestine

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Nov 1 2024 23:17 utc | 167

@163 karlof
Appreciated Karlof. I could not underline the importance enough of resolving the policy stance regarding Palestine. Even for Russia to just wash its hands of “Israel”, would be better than to continue as is. That is easier said than done however, because historically Russia has (and does) recognise “Israel” , which is to say that it has somehow been part of facilitating its current form. This places Russia in a bind, because to disassociate from that would mean to recognise own errors. If it had done so the moment “Israel” started bombing civilians it would have had every excuse, but now it would look opportunistic. Furthermore, for Russia to derecognise a state ‘cannot’ be done due to atrocity caused by that state, just as lack of atrocity does not justify recognition.
Even more complex to understand is the normal order of sanctioning a state. There are a series of powerful and significant steps that can be implemented before derecognition, and many of those might well have stalled “Israeli” excesses. To name a few (and to be honest I don’t know if any have been taken) , expulsion of diplomatic staff and embassy, increasing visa requirements based on proof of non participation in genocide, restrictions on trade of all kinds, obligation of third party traders to provide certificate of non participation , rejection of currency or trading platforms, embargo. There are more. Any of these steps are not an infringement but , diplomatically speaking, are very decisive and imposing in nature even though based on neutrality. They leave no room for misunderstanding.
Clearly there is part of the equation I and others fail to understand, but how could anyone understand a form of permisivity towards genocide ?
So I also see Russia being dragged unwittingly into the mire of events, and it is not like Russia to be outsmarted this way.
I think it is possible that Russia knows that to directly challenge “Israel” in the mentioned ways would lead to an unpredictable backlash. That would be very hard to admit.
Equally it is possible that Russia has just hit “pause” and has decided that if “Israel” wants to go ‘beyond’ then it must deal with what the region serves it up. That still looks like complicity though.
For now at least I refuse to be so cynical of Russia as to portray its position as a lower propaganda form, say of allowing civilians to be murdered so as to build a case. That does not fit with how I understand its character. That would also include working to a globalist agenda of regional management of some kind.
It does really all come across as Russia being phased by events, or caught out, though.
That being so, a blunt and declared and effective reaction to obvious genocide would be expected all the same.
The ‘phased’ part mentioned however is in fact just that, incrementalism where each step is not enough to cause strong reaction based on comparison to the next previous – self defense, targeting militants, targeting militants with civilian colateral, increased civilian colateral, questionable if militants present, not questioning if militants present, clearing out civilians in case there are militants present:
Somewhere along that path Russia finds itself holding hands with a genocidal entity. That is what it will be seen as. To retreat is to admit making a mistake, but it is much more honourable than not doing so.
I wrote an essay just previously on how this (non reaction by nations) seems to me. Will post it later.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 0:54 utc | 168

First explanation I’ve come across as to why the armour in occupied Palestine don’t have infantry support …
DD Geopolitics

Hezbollah just released a new video showing off the work of their anti-tank teams in Lebanon.
It’s pretty typical for them, but they show off a few new types of weapons, namely ATGM launchers with 2-3 barrels. These are probably designed to counteract the IOF’s “Trophy” active defense system, which intercepts missiles with what is essentially a massive, radar guided shotgun. The primary weakness of this system is limited ammo and an inability to reload, so the 2 and 3 barrel launchers are designed to brute force their way through.
It is worth pointing out that “Trophy” has failed badly in Gaza for a variety of reasons. First and foremost, it cannot be used when operating with infantry because this automated system would kill them all. Even with a successful interception, the air is filled with shrapnel from both the missile and the Trophy system, and that shrapnel has to go somewhere. When the tanks are operating alongside infantry, the system must be turned off.
Secondly, it has a minimum operating distance of 50m. The Palestinian resistance in Gaza tends to operate from point blank range for precisely this reason. Ironically, the proliferation of Trophy means a lot of IOF tanks do not operate with the traditional infantry screen for safety reasons, meaning that resistance fighters can walk right up to the tanks. We have seen many cases of IOF Merkavas destroyed by satchel charges and RPG rockets at close range in resistance videos.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/128613?single
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/128614?single (Still image – Hezbollah ATGM)
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/128615?single (diagram of IOF Trophy – which also alludes to how the new Hezbollah ATGM can defeat it)

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Nov 2 2024 1:28 utc | 169

@ Ornot | Nov 2 2024 0:54 utc | 168 with the perceptions about nations reactions to the genocide we are watching….
I think the reactions you are seeing are because of MAD and the civilization war we are in.
We don’t know the red lines behind the scenes and I expect they are different than the ones the public sees to some extent…..the public does not see the ongoing MAD rhetoric and posturing that makes this current genocide unassailable by other nations…..is my assumption.
My $0.02

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 2 2024 1:29 utc | 170

The 2 days truce proposal was initially an Egyptian Algerian offer that could help the US have a break just before the elections for PR purposes. As usual the mad men governing isrhell showed just how much they cared by escalating. The proposal came in time to show that Erdo was just words and no acts. Eg army guys know exactly where the weakness of the MB is.
Now Eg comes back with the next step
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/1234/534513/Egypt/Foreign-Affairs/Hamas,-Fatah-delegations-head-to-Cairo-for-Gaza-go.aspx

Posted by: Tom | Nov 2 2024 1:32 utc | 171

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 0:54 utc | 168
Do a man a favor, and it becomes your job.
Would Russia be happy or dismayed if the west started a big war started with Iran or China?
Russia does not have the luxury of concerning itself with issues that do not directly affect it, as it is locked in an existential war.
Jewish oligarchs and trade with Israel must be kept as good as possible, (Israel condemns Russia, but barely sanctions them), just as every other citizen of Russia who is not directly aiding Ukraine. It’s a matter of priorities.
Russia still has not been able to end the conflict in Syria.
It would be akin to asking why doesn’t Hamas send troops to Syria to fight the FSA, and condemn the FSA. Hamas really does not need the ire of Turkey right now.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 2 2024 1:33 utc | 172

https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/58/1262/534511/War-on-Gaza/War-on-Gaza/Haaretz-publisher-denounced-for-describing-Palesti.aspx
A pro-peace Israeli addressing the warmongering plutocracy in London.

Posted by: Tom | Nov 2 2024 1:36 utc | 173

Posted by: Exile | Nov 1 2024 18:51 utc | 142
Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 2 2024 1:49 utc | 174

meanwhile back at the genocide ranch
https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1851894981172121858
Younis Tirawi | يونس @ytirawi
Israeli senior officer Lt. Col Eyal Shalit Sanir, a battalion commander in the Gaza Division
“…Gazans will be concentrated in a very defined area and live as refugees their whole lives without water or electricity until they decide, of their own accord, to emigrate….”
Full Post
“I hope that Jewish settlement will begin in most of the Gush Katif region and the former city of Gaza, that the Gazans will be concentrated in a very defined area and live as refugees their whole lives without water or electricity until they decide, of their own accord, to emigrate—preferably to Europe or Canada—and that in another 10 years, there will be a new 7/10 there”
https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1852353652570349715
Al Jazeera English @AJEnglish
PM Netanyahu has no intention of stopping the war on Lebanon since “in his mind, the number of casualties that his army is suffering is acceptable in comparison to what he’s achieving in Lebanon”, says political analyst Elijah Magnier.
🟥 Read analysis: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/11/1/live-israeli-attacks-kill-95-in-gaza-6-medics-among-45-killed-in-lebanon?update=3289583

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 2 2024 2:00 utc | 175

too late, too late
for the two-state solution
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1851995332722545094
Middle East Eye @MiddleEastEye
“A Palestinian state must be established, and the only to achieve this is to apply sanctions against Israel.”
Haaretz publisher called for sanctions against Israeli leaders who oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state, describing the policies as an “apartheid regime”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 2 2024 2:27 utc | 176

Some thoughts on Israeli lies:
1) I worked with an Israeli software company for over two years. 90% of what they said was a lie.
2) Israel’s PR spiel to the world is 100% lies.
Perhaps this is because when the zionists speak to others, truth doesn’t matter. To the Zionist, there is no significant other how must be honored or respected.
3) But on the third hand, this is not specific to Israel. Pretty much everything the US says is a lie too.
4. On the fourth hand, everyone could just be delusional and actually believe their lies.

Posted by: JAB | Nov 2 2024 2:35 utc | 177

Thanks Psycho.
Canuck if I remember posted a PCR essay where he voiced his frustration at Russia not taking a proactive stance on various fronts. Though I agree partially with that the view was from a US perspective and Russia does not play by the US script. I think I have a reply and links to that that I did not post, if I find that again I will post it here.
My position though, and that is in answer to UWDude also, is that neutrality is unassailable. Where a genocide is taking place to not facilitate in any way (trade, recognition etc.) is neutrality. I would not oblige Russia or any other to enter the fray, but only to disengage and therefore isolate. It is a question of principle and not of strategy, because we know that there are still countries willing to aid “Israel” that would permit it to continue with its manner.
However, to take a principled stance is also a benefit to any strategy that would wish to be effective by being understood by a wider population.
Such a position would not seem to directly infringe on any MAD doctrine.
Although I also understand that we might be on the brink of a major conflict of unknown result, and that any changes in stance would be hyper calculated, I cannot allow that as an excuse for lack of reaction. I explain my sentiment on this in a following post.
To me, at street level, it just seems like there is no will to act to isolate those commiting genocide.
What you are saying UWDude rings also, but it is like saying having to keep the quo when the quo is actually being broken. It is not a pretense that can last and those who do not forge a new position get ignored.
I just add in that previous unposted comment re. PCR here, then post what I said I would to Karlof, then sign out because it is late 🙂
[ The differences in overview on Russian position or achievement are partly that it is easier for us to look from a west-centric scale of importance based on invasion, whereas Russia might well be looking from a purely defensive position. That is to say “winning” is not the priority, but reclaiming, defending and holding is. That has to be carried out along vast fronts which are, from Iran westwards, potentially hostile and to whatever degree supportive of western influence, while at the same time maintaining domestic coherence.
Viewed this way, Russia is now having to tolerate and absorb various attempts against its own integrity. It knows the west will as easily attack it without a clear pretext, it does not need to provide that pretext though as that would be to gift western planners.
The contrary view (partly held by PCR) is along the lines that Putin or Russia have not been decisive or pro-active, have been caught off guard (or deceived), that Russia is playing catch up with western strategy due to not solidifying partnerships previously, or for not being transparent, commited or coherent on foreign policy.
As I both agree and disagree with various points mentioned, and as for anyone else I do not know if there are possible justifications or excuses for any perceived failings, I don’t have an overall opinion but will just remain critical of any obvious incoherence that affects Russian public presentation (hopefully taken constructively). Ultimately however the conflict in Ukraine was clearly primed and even initiated by the west.
As mentioned, PCR here has a focused criticism for Putin, and apart from the above I think PCR is emphasising his understanding of how western spin, strategy and attitude work. That is to say unrelentingly hostile and looking for any weakness, or what can be presented as weakness, to leverage. Where Russia’s organisation is described as lacking is as might be seen or presented from that approach of western hostility.
On the other hand Russia is just not going to act as the west might, it has its own meaning, balance and worldview. Western frustration over western direction is therefore not Russia’s to resolve in a western way.
Anyway, I just continue the theme here a little because it is stepping off point for a lot of thought and discussion. PCR is outspoken and direct , and not afraid of playing the part of antagonist to discussion.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/18/is-putin-the-chamberlain-of-our-time/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/20/is-russia-finally-acknowledging-reality/
]

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 2:45 utc | 178

They “discovered” a land where people were already living! Don’t be so fucking eurocentric!
Posted by: Ново З | Oct 31 2024 20:23 utc | 55
They weren’t people when they were discovered.
The early papal bulls “authorized colonial powers such as Spain and Portugal to seize lands and subjugate people in Africa and the “New World,” as long as people on the lands were not Christians”.
It wasn’t until 1537 that americans were understood as human:
“In Sublimis Deus (1537), Paul III declares the indigenous peoples of the Americas to be “truly men and that they are not only capable of understanding the Catholic Faith but, according to our information, they desire exceedingly to receive it”” Wiki
By that time the original views were already installed however, and non Christians were still considered unworthy, and locals inferior. Some early explorers were eaten apparently, which would not have helped.
Copy paste :
“What began as a religious decree in the 1400s then became the basis for a legal concept in the U.S., when the Doctrine of Discovery was invoked in an 1823 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that Indigenous people had only rights of “occupancy,” not ownership, over lands they had long lived on. The land, then, was open for the taking.”
Which reinforced a view Locke proposed that those who worked the land made it theirs.
Similar to Palestinian’s being “blown in by the wind” sort of thinking, except obviously this was Europeans blown in by the wind.
In short the philosophies behind claiming ownership go by “whatever works” to enable that, traditionally that would be conflict being acceptable also.
As we are now all enlightened, only self defense is allowed, hence the priority of victim status.
……..
Who actually owns what, i.e. blaming europe for judaic colonialism (as per a previous comment), is only a selective hypothesis. That is to say there were (and are) many many factors that come into play that decide the direction of a society, politi, religious authority, region, people etc. Though people will try to untangle responsibilities, usually they settle at some form of admission of participatory guilt to be found of their most despised grouping and settle at that as absolute “proof of origin” . That is not rational, is often hateful or unconstructive.
What I will say though is that for going on a year now, every day I have watched innocent men, women and children being slaughtered with western backing. It is not a question of “Baerbock’s news feed” or “the computer told me to” , the ground realities in Palestine have been published day after day for all to know. Nor is it a question of being fooled over western (or even global) intent, as most will give a benefit of doubt to those who say they would act, and who are able to act, to do so as opposed to showing themselves as liars, hypocrits, deceivers, misleaders, and so on. Well, I draw a line to all that now because all have basically proved themselves for what they are, as except by some convoluted theory that actually means nothing to the next innocent person killed, lack of de-supportive action cannot be called a counter strategy, but only complicity.
This is an international failing. It is an international failing because nations no longer act as nations, and therefore there is no inter-nation. As with sarscov2 , all but a few immersed themselves in the sump of global monotone. We see very few nations now that stand up and act with protest in any creditable manner. That is to say they no longer represent even the most basic of morals as far as civilians and innocents are concerned, and that my friends transfers to also towards their very own.
There are of course excuses, of influences, of repercussions. That is a globalist view, where any nation is so dependent on all others, or so concerned about knocking groupstatus and so facing retaliation, that they will not only watch as children are shredded before their eyes, but actually support that, whether blatantly or deceptively.
As for many others, I am utterly and completely disgusted by what I see of mankind through this lense, by what it portrays humans to be. This is not us, this is not people, is not the people of differing race and colour and religion that I love and care for.
Those who are behind these acts, bring nothing good to this world. As they celebrate their own abomination and thrill at their own cleverness, drunk on the blood of the children they have murdered, they are encircled and they know it, and they know their own fate and celebrate their own demise for lack of any higher sentiment whatsoever.
Few would care more but to grant them their own wish of own self spiteful anihilation. Even pity is not offered because it would not be understood.
One would ask for others to behave this way elsewhere, to leave those who have no interest in that direction at peace with themselves and each other, but the notion of human worth is so absent from their own dialect, being a mere concept to distort and abuse, that such a plea would go at best unheard.
I speak without hatred, but only with a great sense of sadness at what I must witness in this world.

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 2:53 utc | 179

In response to

I speak without hatred, but only with a great sense of sadness at what I must witness in this world.
Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 2:53 utc | 179

Agreed!
Our species is not showing well….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 2 2024 3:29 utc | 180

Posted by: Ornot | Nov 2 2024 2:45 utc | 178
I know how PCR thinks pretty well. He generally thinks how we all think, and surely I could find myself agreeing with him without introspection.
There was a certain haunt here who oft said Putin “did not lift a finger” all the time. He would often advocate Russia strike British companies, the Bilderberg Group or other such conglomerations of the ultra wealthy.
Fantasy is fun, but reality is what it is.
The actual intentions for such sentiments are not rooted in the best interests of Russia, (as this person always claimed his criticisms were for), but to exact justice upon those his own ire was focused on.
It could be argued that Russia would be better off just wiping out tel-aviv, and any analysis in my mind says “yeah”, but then things have to be thought through a bit more, like,
Q: Where was Hamas in 2012 when the west was making a play to steal Russia’s naval base?
A: helping the FSA et al.
Q: Where was Hafez Al Assad when Israel was in Beirut during the Lebanese civil war?
A: Killing PLO.
Q: Who was hosting “extraordinary renditions” on behalf of the USA in 2008, when the Iraqis were doing their best to resist puppetry of the west?
A: Assad, again.
I always found it funny when Reagan withdrew from Beirut after the Marine barracks bombing, giving the reason, “The middle east is too complicated”.
That’s serious normie wisdom, there. And its really a hornets nest you dont want to stick your nose in if you can avoid it.
Russia bleeds to save the world all the time. So much so that people think it should for every injustice all over, simply because it showed the will to fight back.
Israel gets lots of attention because it is a religious flashpoint… ..between Atheist and Christian, but its not the only injustice in the world, nor the worst. the worst right now is using zombie Ukraine against Russia. At least ten times more people have been killed and wounded. And Russian soldiers are still human lives being snuffed out in horrible ways, for doing the right thing.

Posted by: UWDude | Nov 2 2024 4:05 utc | 181

Despite IDF and Bibi and the War Cabinet bluster, the facts on the ground are that the IDF has been decisively defeated in southern Lebanon.
The very idea that the IDF will conquer and occupy Lebanon south of the Litani River is ludicrous. They are hardly occupying an territory now, and they experiencing heavy losses in infantry and armor. They are no closer to the Litani River that I am to the Elba………..
In Gaza, Hamas is continuing to attack IDF formations of armor and infantry at will. One year of devastating bombing of Gaza has yielded mass civilian death, wounded and missing and little else. Hamas is still an effective fighting force.
So what to do? The Israelis through blind blood lust have brought themselves a conundrum, 30 K tons of bombs dropped on Gaza have yielded really no military objectives, and in Lebanon is a complete stalemate.
Anyone really believe that all Hamas battalions are gone, well of course not.
Hamas is set up like the old PIRA, with small ASU”s of approx twelve soldiers, fairly independent from the main HQ. They do not operate in traditional company or battalion groups, as IDF propaganda alleges. Small quasi independent groups offer less opportunity for leaks and informers. They ASU groups pick targets of opportunity in the ruins of Gaza, and there are endless numbers of those. They receive their orders via courier, and operate against targets of opportunity. No cell phones means no tracking. Old school tactics for the tech age.
For the IDF, thus genocide is the only option…..LOL

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Nov 2 2024 4:40 utc | 182

A major attack on Israel has resulted in many injuries following a barrage of rocket strikes on major cities including Tel Aviv. The live updates indicate that Iran-backed Hezbollah might have launched the rockets into Israeli territory. The assault comes amid heightened tensions following the October 2023 Hamas attack, which had already set the stage for increased violence in the region. Israeli officials report that the recent rocket strikes have caused widespread panic and destruction, prompting emergency responses across affected areas. Watch the live broadcast for more updates.
— Hindustan Times

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 2 2024 5:31 utc | 183

Sabotage of Ottawa Factory Producing Parts for Israel’s F-35 Warplanes (thread)
https://x.com/WBWCanada/status/1851991480077849084
“Earlier this week a group of people in Ottawa sabotaged Gastop’s factory in Ottawa, the only place in the world where engine sensors are produced for Lockheed’s F-35s – including the ones dropping 2,000 pound bombs on Gaza…”
Toronto – All Out Against USrael’s War and Genocide and Canada’s collaborationist politicians!
Saturday, Nov 2 – 1:00 PM, US Consulate, 360 University Avenue, Toronto

Posted by: John Gilberts | Nov 2 2024 5:46 utc | 184

As the Soldiers Ran Away – Resistance Roundup – Day 392
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/as-the-soldiers-ran-away-resistance-roundup-day-392/
Comment – worth reading the report. Videos etc.
Merkava Tally as of Friday
night local time
253 destroyed (unchanged)
689 approx. damaged (unchanged)

Posted by: Exile | Nov 2 2024 5:52 utc | 185

Arch,
Can you take over the Al-Manar live feed highlights ? I’ll continue with the daily Merkava tally.
Da’ wife has given me a very long ; Honey to do list, and I’m falling behind ….
Happy Wife
Happy Life

Posted by: Exile | Nov 2 2024 5:58 utc | 186

https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1852236818420269444
Patarames @Pataramesh
Launching 🇮🇱-strikes from Iraq?
That makes sense if Iran wants to use its lower cost ballistic missiles:
Qiam/Jahad
&
Dezful/Zolfaghar
But how get them to Iraq across the border without detection?
Watch my videos on the two missiles in the next tweets
https://x.com/ELINTNews/status/1852057374439133265
ELINT News @ELINTNews
#BREAKING: Iran preparing major retaliatory strike from Iraq within days, Israeli intel suggests
“The sources said Israeli intelligence suggests the attack is expected to be carried out from Iraq using a large number of drones and ballistic missiles.”
https://x.com/ELINTNews/status/1852064883531223058
“The sources indicated that the attack is expected to be carried out using hundreds of UAVs and ballistic missiles.”- Walla

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 2 2024 6:14 utc | 187

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 2 2024 5:31 utc | 183
Link please. Could not find it. Thanks.

Posted by: JAB | Nov 2 2024 6:23 utc | 188

Mariam Barghouti مريم البرغوثي
@MariamBarghouti
We are so heavily surveilled in the West Bank. From drones to at least five cameras at every junction, infiltration to our phones, to settlers controlling Palestinian movement.
Israeli soldiers are always stationed at the edges of every single village or town in the West Bank with guns and watchtowers. Every move is watched.
Soldiers often stop Palestinians at gunpoint and demand their phones, if a soldiers sees any pro-resistance content,- even if it’s an interview of Sinwar for example,- then soldiers will arrest them & take them to torture camps for up to 3-9 months.
Any Palestinian released from the detention camps is monitored in their every move. Any sign of challenging or mobilizing against the genocide the person is taken back and tortured again.
It’s truly like a big torture camp, and the prisons are our own homes.
https://x.com/MariamBarghouti/status/1852432005298041026

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:06 utc | 189

Jehad Abusalim جهاد أبو سليم
@JehadAbusalim
If Israel’s supporters in the West, who advocate for criminalizing speech that compares Israel to the Nazis, don’t want these comparisons, perhaps they should call up their Israeli friends and ask them to stop marking detainees by writing numbers on their foreheads.
https://x.com/JehadAbusalim/status/1852081864523079801

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:08 utc | 190

Nimrod Flaschenberg
@Nimrod_Flash
Israeli Minister of Justice has ordered to legislate a law saying Israelis who call for sanctions on Israel will be put in prison for up to 20 years. The craziness is intensifying in the run up to the US elections, when the world is not noticing.
https://x.com/Nimrod_Flash/status/1852029503045833002

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:09 utc | 191

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
Israel finally gave the World Health Organisation permission to deliver desperately needed medical supplies to Kamal Adwan hospital in the north of the Gaza strip.
5 days later Israel bombed the hospital in order to destroy the supplies.
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1851900496648286410

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:10 utc | 192

Naila Ayad🇵🇸
@Naila_Ayad
Our boycott has a power you don’t know.💪💪
https://x.com/Naila_Ayad/status/1851696320563847200

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:11 utc | 193

Abby Martin
@AbbyMartin
“Had international law been respected, the genocide would have been stopped by the security council after the first set of measures by the ICJ, before Rafah was invaded. But a small number of member states have enabled and nurtured Israel’s conduct, and their genocidal violence has only expanded. If left unpunished, it could encourage other states to carry out these acts.
Israel is not the only country to attack UN Rapporteurs. What’s striking in the case of Israel is there’s a cohort of states that echo and reverberate what Israel says and minions that produce fabrications with only one objective: to distract away from the genocide.”
UN Special Rapporteur for Occupied Palestine @FranceskAlbs
after the release of her new report “Genocide as Colonial Erasure” https://undocs.org/Home/Mobile?Fi
https://x.com/AbbyMartin/status/1851805188656333067

Posted by: Menz | Nov 2 2024 9:13 utc | 194

The question is not which institution or state does something for whom or for what reasons. The only thing that matters is who does it, for the right reasons, that is, who is willing, individually, as a person – and not as a critic, comfortable, spectator – to do things in their daily life, integrally, to contribute their grain of sand to the will of evolution of the human species as a whole…
It is extremely easy, and above all extremely hegemonic, to pretend institutional solutions while our daily life remains unchanged, because that is the basis of the system: that institutions act in the name of people. That a single person acts freely, daily, based on their principles, or that they aim for a planetary human fraternity, based on their small relationship with the world, is the only revolutionary thing today. Of course, it is easier to follow trends, make comparisons and evaluations, take sides for one or the other contender while eating chips and beer in front of the television or any other modern screen…
If the genocide were not live and direct, nobody would care, as happens every day all over the world. The adrenaline of seeing a real massacre is what is appreciated, even if it is disguised as indignation and blame….
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2015/03/destino-manifiesto.html

Posted by: Santi | Nov 2 2024 10:37 utc | 195

Since Iran, once again, did not get UN condemnation sought for in InSC after Israel’s last aggression, perhaps China & Russia thought this might stay Khamenei’s hand:
TASS:
MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
2 NOV, 03:42
SCO condemns Israeli strikes on Iran’s military sites — statement
“The organization also stressed that the SCO member states stand for the prompt adoption of effective measures to stabilize the situation in the region exclusively by political and diplomatic means
BEIJING, November 2. /TASS/. The member states of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization have strongly condemned the Israeli strikes on Iran’s military facilities.”
A bit obvious IMO.
Both Russia & China wanting Iran to allow itself humiliation, and the dismantling of both Hamas & Hezbollah to have some pretend PLO Palestinian State (maybe) in future.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 2 2024 10:44 utc | 196

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon#:~:text=Amid%20rising%20casualties%20from%20guerrilla,river%20on%203%20September%201983.&text=From%20February%20to%20April%201985,was%20to%20protect%20northern%20Israel.
I looked up the previous withdrawal from Lebanon to try to see what led up to it. What surprised me was how low IDF casualties were. It’s enough to make you wonder why they left at all. You would think that they would accept a couple hundred over many years as just the cost of doing business. I don’t know….
I would say that if Hezbollah could take some prisoners to show the cameras, that would hurt Netanyahu a lot politically. Protesters would gain mass enthusiasm if it appeared that Israel was simply generating more hostages.

Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 2 2024 11:48 utc | 197

karlof1 163
My encounters with a Greek Orthodox liturgy this week have convinced me that Orthodox Christianity is brazenly Trinitarian, while English Protestants sweep the issue under the carpet.
The Orthodox claim , constantly reiterated in the liturgy, that God , Jesus AS and Archagel Gabriel are ONE is horrendous and libellous blasphemy.
At the same time the Zionists brazenly claim that the purpose of all this savagery in Palestine is to force God’s hand . Well , that tells us how inscrutably pathetic they consider God to be.
Sorry to bore you with that, but it tells me as a Muslim that Judaeo-Chritianity, while absolutely opposed in political vision, UN values v. Ziofascism, is still completely united in terms of its utter disrespect for God and the teachings of His major prophets, Moses AS, the Messiah AS, and Muhammad SAW.
This means that Russia and USUKIS are united intellectually and therefore politically against Islam and individual Jewish and individual Christian thought outside the institutions of politically – charged theology.
Even Messrs Lavrov and Putin, Erdoğan and Biden are answerable to their respective deep states. Mr Lavrov’s public answers at a Press Conference might be opposite to his won private opinions. Hence the two-facedness you alluded to..

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 2 2024 11:51 utc | 198

Palestine’s Representative to the United Nations to Al Mayadeen:
A draft resolution is under discussion in the Security Council to impose a ceasefire on “Israel” under Chapter VII. The 10 non-permanent member states of the Security Council have agreed to the draft.
note language: “impose”. this will probably not make it to vote phase, US will surely veto.
Could set up General Assembly United For Peace resolution, which is the one action that could be effective.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 2 2024 11:55 utc | 199

To Gihane 198
Judeo-christanity, what is this, but a Christian illusion ?
From a Jewish point of view, in my inderstanding, nothing is worse than being Christian, and Jesus is a fake prophet; Bible is not a religious book, rather an historical reference, jet for claiming property of Palestine earth
Only some Christian (mostly protestant and evangelical) deceive themselves by referring to a judeo-christian civilisation

Posted by: Daniel | Nov 2 2024 12:18 utc | 200