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October 31, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-263

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Probably accurate to stop referring to it as a war in Palestine and start calling it the Zionist Entity’s war or genocide ON Palestine.
🙁

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 13:20 utc | 1

Islamic Resistance in Iraq Targets Israeli Sites in Drone Strikes
https://english.manartv.com.lb/2251933

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 14:20 utc | 2

The UN secretary general, António Guterres has warned Israel could carry out the “ethnic cleansing” of Gaza if the international community does not make a determined stand to prevent it.
Guterres made his appeal at a time of mounting civilian casualties from the Israeli bombardment of northern Gaza. A strike on Tuesday in Beit Lahiya district killed at least 93 people, in what the UN said was just one of at least seven “mass casualty incidents” across Gaza in the past week.
At the same time, aid deliveries to Gaza are reported to have fallen to their lowest level since the start of the war, leading to growing allegations that Israel’s true intention is to drive the remaining Palestinian population out of at least part of Gaza.
The UN secretary general, speaking on the sidelines of the COP16 biodiversity conference in Colombia, suggested that the “ethnic cleansing” of Gaza had been prevented until now by its people’s refusal to succumb to the intense pressure to flee their homes and by Arab resolve not to accept mass population transfers.
“The intention might be for the Palestinians to leave Gaza, for others to occupy it,” Guterres told the Guardian. “But there has been – and I pay tribute to the courage and the resilience of the Palestinian people and to the determination of the Arab world – [an effort] to avoid the ethnic cleansing becoming a reality.
“We will do everything possible to help them remain there and to avoid ethnic cleansing that might occur if there is not strong determination from the international community,” he added.
Not an habit to post from MSM but..
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/30/antonio-guterres-warns-israel-could-carry-out-ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 31 2024 14:25 utc | 3

Haredi Settlers Protest against Enlisting in Israeli Army: “We Would Rather Die”

(excerpt)….The dispute over the ultra-Orthodox community serving in the military is one of the most contentious in the Zionist entity…,
The issue has grown in urgency as the occupation military suffers from a lack of troops and pressure on reservists increases over the past year of war.
A group of Israeli army reservists recently sent on Wednesday a letter to Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi criticizing the continued failure to draft members of the ultra-Orthodox community, a move that they said would have helped reduce the large number of days they have been required to serve since the start of the war in Gaza over a year ago.
The letter accused the Israeli military of having “failed” its reserve soldiers who are frustrated and burnt-out after multiple stints in Gaza, on the northern border, and now in southern Lebanon amid the ongoing ground offensive there.
Earlier on Saturday (October 28), Israeli army radio reported that less than four percent of the 3,000 Haredi (ultra-Orthodox) Israelis who received recruitment orders since July to join the military have done so…..

https://english.manartv.com.lb/2252065

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 14:26 utc | 4

Anyone who still believes that the U$$A is NOT under the total control by the Talmudist Bank$ters, whether economically; governmentally or media-matters…is in serious need of a brain transplant. When both major parties bow to the same false gods of highest finance…federal (s)elections are meaningless.
When pure evil rules from the top-down…it is high time for even the dimmest of wits to come to their senses…or to surrender their rights as living, breathing, somewhat conscious human beings.
It is not even possible to contemplate the levels of bribery and blackmail involved when the majority of Congress and the $enate cheer and clap their hands like so many trained-seals in favor of a genocidal maniac who is fast becoming more of a threat to elementary humanity than Adolf Hitler, Mao and Genghis Khan combined.
Sheer insanity currently rules in the Collective Wa$te.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 31 2024 14:52 utc | 5

It appears now that Consortium News is back. I would wager it was a zionazi attack from occupied Palestine as the US/UK could do other things to harass them.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/30/winning-a-battle-over-control-of-our-site/
“Consortium News has defeated an attack on America’s oldest independent news site. For now.
After being completely taken over for nearly 72 hours, CN was able to wrest back control of our site from the attackers and resume our ability to publish again.
Our victory was just one battle in an escalating war against a free press, however, which has included recent arrests, interrogations and home raids against journalists both in Britain and the U.S.
Now that we are back online we are focusing on trying to uncover who did this to us. Unfortunately we think we know why. Someone was so upset with what we write and say that they committed a crime to try to stop us.
We thank all of our readers and viewers for their patience while we were taken over and for their continued support.”

Posted by: motorslug | Oct 31 2024 15:02 utc | 6

It’s worth remembering that Guterres was the first hi-profile Westerner to point out that “October 7th didn’t happen in a vaccuum”- something the Jewed-up Western MSM has chosen to ‘forget’.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 31 2024 15:04 utc | 7

ZH was shut down for a few weeks over a decade ago. When they came back online, their entire editorial slant changed from independent media to slavishly regimist media. Me thinks someone got threatened bigtime.
Fortunately the readership didn’t change so the comments section of ZH provides plenty of healthy insights on the regimist articles 😋😋😋

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 15:27 utc | 8

Has it occured to anyone else that quite possibly Nutandyahoo and posse are really a satanic AI experiment that got loose from a basement U.S. defense department laboratory?

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Oct 31 2024 15:29 utc | 9

From Kevin Tillman. We remember the service of his brother Patrick Daniel Tillman Jr., slain in Afghanistan 20 years ago.

While serving, I didn’t think our foreign policy could get much worse or more obscene than the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), “Mushroom Clouds in New York City”, or “Greeted as liberators” stunts -– lies that drove the Iraq war. But by the end of my enlistment, I realized a few things. The first is how casually this country uses the goodwill, courage, sacrifice, and lives of American service members for belligerent U.S. interests. I still carry resentment and disgust towards our leaders’ “Forever Wars,” and my stomach drops when well intentioned people say, “Thank you for your Service.”
Although, I think for today’s service members, it’s worse. They are being ordered to support an overt genocide in Gaza, expanding into the West Bank, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, and Iran; the areas and countries fighting to protect the Palestinians from genocide. I cringe thinking about how current service members will feel when they are thanked for their service to this genocide. As if it doesn’t matter what their service is being used for. What impact it has. Or even if it is legal or moral.

https://scheerpost.com/2024/10/31/haunted-by-our-genocide-from-half-a-world-away/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 31 2024 15:34 utc | 10

Consortium News still doesn’t have full control over their domain.
https://consortiumnews.com
Still resolves to fake architect site.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 11

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 13:20 utc | 1
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We’re not there yet but it is a war on humanity. The Zionists have long dreamed of enslaving everyone else in the world to serve them.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 15:48 utc | 12

I was reading on Twitter this morning that some Israeli officials are asking Bibi to pre-emptively attack Iran before Iran can get their revenge.
Can you smell the fear and desperation of the “Chosen”?
If I am in the IRGC, I have Israel exactly where I want them.
I wonder if the Americans could get prepared to lend support for a pre-emptive attack on short notice.
I know that Germany has withdrawn it’s naval support from that theater now.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 15:51 utc | 13

WRT GEJ@10. No.
Satanic perhaps, but definitely not artificial:
Benji Notajew was around before I had a computer.
My first recollect of him (I was about 8) was my
(great) Uncle Jack being *really* upset about him
coming up to Montreal, either during expo’67 or
the year after: “That man IS an NAZI!” got agreements
and nods all around from folks eating at the Main
(across and down from Schwartz’s) and not just at my grans’
kitchen table.

Posted by: Fubar El Haq | Oct 31 2024 16:01 utc | 14

Consortium News still doesn’t have full control over their domain.
https://consortiumnews.com
Still resolves to fake architect site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 12
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It looked OK to me just now.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 16:02 utc | 15

Posted by: TomQ| 12
That domain’s nameservers are set, way upstream. if that resolves to some architect’s site, it’s on your end.
Use nslookup to figure out why you’re not hitting it. That’s ULTRA suspicious.

Posted by: NJH | Oct 31 2024 16:05 utc | 16

Still resolves to fake architect site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 12
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It looked OK to me just now.
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Clear your browser cache.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 31 2024 16:12 utc | 17

Although, I think for today’s service members, it’s worse. They are being ordered to support an overt genocide in Gaza, expanding into the West Bank, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, and Iran; the areas and countries fighting to protect the Palestinians from genocide. I cringe thinking about how current service members will feel when they are thanked for their service to this genocide. As if it doesn’t matter what their service is being used for. What impact it has. Or even if it is legal or moral.
https://scheerpost.com/2024/10/31/haunted-by-our-genocide-from-half-a-world-away/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 31 2024 15:34 utc | 10
Great addition. Thanks, Aleph. He speaks for millions of working class westerners, many of whom are soldiers. A historically conscious individual would recall too the critical role played by the Soviet of Russian Soldiers in ending WW1.
The American working class is awakening from the post WW2 order.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2024 16:24 utc | 18

Consortium News still doesn’t have full control over their domain.
https://consortiumnews.com
Still resolves to fake architect site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 12
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It looked OK to me just now.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 16:02 utc | 15
I can assure you that it is working fine, and if you had noticed in the open thread I even linked some articles I had missed.
Getting back to the topic, I’ll post the whole article but the point is “The Israeli army has failed to intercept many rockets with the Iron Dome not working in these areas. About 30 projectiles were launched by Hezbollah today.”
Civilian deaths in northern Israel as Hezbollah rockets get through
Mohamed Vall
Mohamed Vall
Reporting from Amman, Jordan
Al Jazeera is reporting from Jordan because it has been banned from Israel and the occupied West Bank.
It’s a high death toll among civilians today. The Israeli media are reporting there’s been six or seven people killed in rocket attacks in northern Israel, including foreign workers in the city of Metula and one woman in Haifa Bay.
The Israeli army has failed to intercept many rockets with the Iron Dome not working in these areas. About 30 projectiles were launched by Hezbollah today.
Meetings are ongoing in West Jerusalem between Prime Minister Netanyahu and two US envoys, Amos Hochstein and Brett McGurk. Netanyahu told them the problem is not signing a ceasefire agreement – the problem is the implementation of the deal.
Netanyahu is basically asking for a mandate for Israel to be able to continue to strike Lebanon even after the sides have signed a truce.

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 31 2024 16:26 utc | 19

When they came back online, their entire editorial slant changed from independent media to slavishly regimist media.
Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 15:27 utc | 8

Avoid purity spirals, which is common on the left. It hurts the anti-war movement. ZH is not slavish regimist media.
Then again, maybe you are of the left.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 31 2024 16:37 utc | 20

Unfortunately planned obsolescence is a primary driver of Capital Accumulation.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 31 2024 15:15 utc | 14
And that makes all the bloviating about global warming and plans to “green” the economy just so much bullshit. It is and has been quite obvious that if you are concerned about ecological issues, the first thing you must do is eliminate as much waste as possible. Less stuff, not more, is where you start. Conservation and stewardship, not exploitation and waste, and no billionaires.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 31 2024 16:46 utc | 21

“We’re not there yet but it is a war on humanity. The Zionists have long dreamed of enslaving everyone else in the world to serve them.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 15:48 utc | 12
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Perhaps, at least here on MoA, readers will come to acknowledge that Spain’s expulsion of the ‘chosen’ in 1492 was necessary for the peace and survival of that nation. Isabella was a saintly queen -kind,charitable,virtuous- but also fiercely patriotic, courageous and truly concerned for the welfare of her people.

Posted by: hispanidad | Oct 31 2024 17:10 utc | 22

Still resolves to fake architect site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 12
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It looked OK to me just now.
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Clear your browser cache.
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 31 2024 16:12 utc | 17
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Tom, I was having the same problem but clearing the browser cache worked for me.
Thanks MorePain!

Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 31 2024 17:26 utc | 23

Posted by: hispanidad | Oct 31 2024 17:10 utc | 22
You mean Isabella’s actions are viewed otherwise? I guess it’s much like some of the things I have heard spoken about Catherine the Great regarding the Pale of Settlement which came into effect under her rule. Perhaps there’s something to be said for monarchies. Easy for me to say. I’ve never lived under one. The oligarchs that rule this joint like to lurk behind the curtains.
I guess all of this should go to the open thread, though.

Posted by: lex talionis | Oct 31 2024 17:30 utc | 24

@Aleph_Null
Thank you for posting Kevin Tillman’s article, I’ve forwarded it on to my circle. Some days I just cry, this looks like it’s going to be one of those.
Peace, much love and respect to the bar

Posted by: Bella | Oct 31 2024 17:31 utc | 25

@KMRIA
thank you for the round a couple days ago.
I made my way through college as a bartender, we listen, comment little, keep the glasses full and the ashtrays emptied.
@ Outraged
thank you for posting Piano Man
Much love and respect to the bar

Posted by: Bella | Oct 31 2024 17:38 utc | 26

Interesting that Spain expelled the Jews in 1492, the same year that a Spaniard ‘discovered’ the ‘new world’
🤔

Posted by: RP | Oct 31 2024 17:52 utc | 27

1492 – Was a big year for Spain…….the Muslims were defeated and expelled and the Jews were just expelled………..and Columbus began his exploration of the “New World” previously discovered by St. Brendan the Navigator eight hundred years before………..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 31 2024 18:10 utc | 28

I promised myself not to post late at night, I do work manual jobs, and am tired at night.Clumsy swollen fingers.
However, I think you might enjoy this docu, I am watching again now…Bitter lake.
All about stealing…Middle east explained since recently, since western hyenas came…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pn2z7zp1V0
Thank you b.

Posted by: stranger | Oct 31 2024 18:12 utc | 29

🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 General Salami, head of IRGC, to the Zionists: You are a rootless tree. You don’t even have a place to run. This time you made a mistake and you will taste the answer. We will give an unimaginable answer to Israel

Posted by: dp | Oct 31 2024 18:12 utc | 30

100 Israeli Officers, Soldiers Killed So Far in Ongoing South Lebanon Battle:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2252362
Comment – these figures do not include the IDF KIA/WIA from the strikes against targets in Galillee etc.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 18:24 utc | 31

The fourteenth statement stressed that the Islamic Resistance targeted, at 5:00 PM on Wednesday, October 30, 2024, a “Merkava” tank and a military vehicle of the “Israeli” enemy in Wata Al-Khiam area with two guided missiles, resulting in their ignition and causing casualties among their crews

Opps overlooked this one – revised tally for Wednesday
Merkava Tally as of Wednesday
night local time
251 destroyed (added 3 plus 1 )
689 approx. damaged (added 1)

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 18:29 utc | 32

Grrrrr – this is correct
Merkava Tally as of Wednesday
night local time
252 destroyed (added 3 plus 1 )
689 approx. damaged (added 1)

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 18:31 utc | 33

The presumed “ceasefire” deal regarding Lebanon is in many ways a redux of the Gazan ceasefire deal the Biden admin rushed through the UNSC back in June, portraying it as an Israeli initiative. There was no deal back in June, and there is no deal over Lebanon either. The Biden admin is trying to create reality and failing. The idea is to install a comprador regime in Lebanon to facilitate the dismantling of Hezbollah. While there are willing partners to this scheme, they are a minority and have no active base to work with either politically or within the Lebanese armed forces. That the Americans have been so overt with their intentions demonstrates that this leadership group, situated in the State Department, is incapable of processing the point of view of their opponents or seeing things from all sides.
The biggest miscalculation – on the level of the assumption that the Russian state would collapse under the 2022 sanctions – was the belief that the dismantling of Hamas would be secured in a matter of weeks a year ago. The subsequent failure to use the significant leverage available to rein in Israel’s ongoing homicidal spree reflects the degree the regional policies converge. The underestimation of the Resistance’s resilience may well force the new US administration to face an immediate crisis decision to insert US combat troops, which is clearly something they are not prepared for.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 31 2024 18:34 utc | 34

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 31 2024 15:34 utc | 10
Friendly reminder. Just following orders is not a defense or considered to be mitigating evidence for the crime of genocide. If you are a US serviceman who is ordered to participate your only option is to refuse or be liable for said crime.
I personally will be seeking capital punishment for every one of you.

Posted by: Badjoke | Oct 31 2024 18:47 utc | 35

28.
Were the Jews expelled because the Muslims had been their benefactors or did they allow religious toleration which the Christians ended? Scottish Vikings were the first to find vineland. The Irish monks were limited in the distance the curraghs could travel.

Posted by: Cavery | Oct 31 2024 18:53 utc | 36

Posted by: hispanidad | Oct 31 2024 17:10 utc | 22
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Let’s not forget that Isabella was a colonialist. Yes, she opposed slavery but on the grounds that people could be converted to Catholicism. The same Catholicism which spawned the tortures of the Inquisition.
Her opposition to slavery didn’t prevent the Spanish from looting wealth in the Americas from their indigenous owners.
Religious choice must never be coerced. I will accept that she was a product of her time, but she still was a cultural chauvinist and an aggressive conqueror.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 18:59 utc | 37

Cavery,
You obviously aren’t a sailor.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 19:00 utc | 38

Shared responsibility.
The Americans have supplied 70% of the total cost of the ongoing Genocide. Without this financial input, Netanyhu and others would not be able to murder small children, torture and “execute” health workers, doctors journalist, and bomb thousands of civilian with impunity. This horrible situation would have come to an end long ago.
The financiers also should be hauled into a criminel court to face charges.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 31 2024 19:15 utc | 39

From DD Geopolitics:
“Only 4 Zionist brigades are left in Lebanon out of a maximum of 13. Purple areas indicate the maximum of IOF advances, while blue is the areas they are operating out of now. The rest have been withdrawn from the country after suffering heavy causalities. The Zionists claim they have accomplished all their objectives, yet rockets still rain down on the north.”
Source: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/128513
Wasn’t there talk of the IDF (also known as the IOF) advancing as far as the Litani River? The advance seems to have stalled somewhat… 😉

Posted by: NoName | Oct 31 2024 19:23 utc | 40

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 31 2024 19:15 utc | 39
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Can we abandon the pretense that America has a significant distance from Israel?
This is an American genocide. Blaming AIPAC’s control of Congress isn’t the Executive branch. The Executive keeps protecting Israel in the Security Council and runs PR interference for mass murder against the Palestinians, the Syrians, and now the Lebanese.
This has been going on for decades. It’s not just Biden. It is every single US government since JFK was shot.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 19:39 utc | 41

U.S. ambassador to Lebanon promotes ‘internal uprising’ to assist Israel: Report
https://mronline.org/2024/10/31/u-s-ambassador-to-lebanon-promotes-internal-uprising-to-assist-israel-report/
Ambassador to Lebanon, Lisa Johnson, is continuing her agenda to prepare Lebanon for a “post-Hezbollah era” by mobilizing “internal” forces against the Islamic resistance movement while it fights the Israeli Army.
In discussions with Lebanese politicians, Johnson reportedly said,
Israel cannot achieve everything through war; it’s time for you to do your part and launch an internal uprising under the banner of ‘Enough.’

Johnson is Lebanon’s Nuland. Another civil war will be waged in Lebanon. The Christians and Sunnis will attempt to do to the large Shiite population of Lebanon what Israel has done to Palestinians. With US subsidy.

Posted by: Keme | Oct 31 2024 19:44 utc | 42

Re: war crimes trials ?
The Yamashita Doctrine of Command Responsibility will come into play big time for people like Gen. Austin
Also the conviction of Hirota Kōki Is a key precedence for civilian leaders such as Blinken and Biden
Finally – Julius Streicher, the publisher, was also convicted of war crimes. Plenty of war mongering publishers in the U.S. and England to try for war crimes.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 19:52 utc | 43

LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 19:39 utc | 41
There are a lot of people who should be in criminal courts. I was thinking that the financial aspect should come higher up the list of those guilty.
Yes, it is an “American” genocide, but the scale of support (from the UK, Germany, etc) should also be brought under control, and as I see it, the overall cost of running two “wars” (Uke and Gaza) at the expense of the non-consulted citizens of the “paying” countries, has reached a level where “Governments” should be held directly accountable.
Hit them where it hurts, in their pockets.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 31 2024 19:53 utc | 44

The Christians and Sunnis will attempt to do to the large Shiite population of Lebanon what Israel has done to Palestinians.
Posted by: Keme | Oct 31 2024 19:44 utc | 42
It was complicated last time, and would be complicated this time as well.
Israel has been trying to reignite civil war in Lebanon, like it did when it destroyed the air fleet of Beirut International Airport, and then told the Lebanese “Reign in the PLO or we destroy you more!” that had a lot to do with the start of the civil war.
Since then, Israel was even more destructive, destroying Lebanons energy and water, but Lebanon did not fracture.
I had a non devout sunni friend, (American University graduate) there in 2006. He told me about the Israeli robo-calls telling everyone to evacuate, and the famous Nasrallah speech where Nasrallah told them to look to the sea and then hit the destroyer out there
That excited him greatly, and he became a fan of Nasrallah that day.
Anecdotes aside, a lot of the Lebanese civil war was about the census and government representation, and I think the sunni shiite divide there has healed greatly since.

Posted by: UWDude | Oct 31 2024 20:01 utc | 45

“Publisher of Israeli newspaper calls for sanctions against Israel”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmE0o4C9dE

Posted by: WMG | Oct 31 2024 20:03 utc | 46

“Former UK Foreign Minister Sir Alan Duncan Exposes Israel’s Influence on UK Politics”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vf0BMcpd3U

Posted by: WMG | Oct 31 2024 20:06 utc | 47

“”You are the real terrorists’: Belgian MP confronts Israeli ambassador”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMSK7gPigU

Posted by: WMG | Oct 31 2024 20:07 utc | 48

We’ve passed the 20,000 children murdered mark in Gaza.
https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1852051830983004174?t=O-vrZS3HrsQ-r4mPMLzpEA&s=19
However much you dislike the zionists it’s not enough.

Posted by: Spanish Pipedream | Oct 31 2024 20:10 utc | 49

“Publisher of Israeli newspaper calls for sanctions against Israel”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmE0o4C9dE
Posted by: WMG | Oct 31 2024 20:03 utc | 46
Thanks for the link, WMG!
Amos Schocken, publisher of Haaretz and head of the Haaretz Group. Kudos to this man!

Posted by: NoName | Oct 31 2024 20:14 utc | 50

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 18:59 utc | 37
Dear LoveDonbass,
What you say about Queen Isabella, the Inquisition, the slaughter of the Aborigines and other matters relating to the Spanish Empire is what is known as the Black Legend.
Thanks to Spain we are still Catholic and the vast majority of us have Spanish and aboriginal blood.

Posted by: Roberto | Oct 31 2024 20:15 utc | 51

@ 1 Tom
war (n.)
late Old English wyrre, werre “large-scale military conflict,” from Old North French werre “war” (Old French guerre “difficulty, dispute; hostility; fight, combat, war;” Modern French guerre), from Frankish *werra, from Proto-Germanic *werz-a- (source also of Old Saxon werran, Old High German werran, German verwirren “to confuse, perplex”), said in Watkins to be from PIE *wers- (1) “to confuse, mix up,” suggesting the original sense was “bring into confusion.”
Etymonline
@14 FUBAR
Maybe his profile was later found inhabitable by AI ? That leaves us to wonder where he actually is, maybe he is being kept in a jar on a shelf. However, as AI had taken him over then presumably he would logically have to have taken over a computer, probably someone is unwittingly carrying him around as a chip, or maybe he inhabits a media server. At least, I keep seeing his face pop up every now and again on my screen without asking.
@22 hispanidad
Only for Spain to sell itself to EU five hundred years later, with the unchosen seeming to have become the chosen again.
“In July 2024, Spain exported €147M and imported €83.3M from Israel, resulting in a positive trade balance of €63.4M. Between July 2023 and July 2024 the exports of Spain have decreased by €-48M (-24.6%) from €195M to €147M, while imports increased by €5.86M (7.57%) from €77.4M to €83.3M.” OECD
I.e. still running @ 2 bn yr export to “Israel”
Or
” “The Spanish government maintains its commitment not to sell or buy arms to the Israeli state since the outbreak of the armed conflict in the territory of Gaza,” a statement issued by the Interior Ministry reads.
The Interior Ministry’s reaction comes after partners of Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez (PSOE) asked the progressive executive to shed light on a contract to purchase ammunition for the Guardia Civil after the case was revealed by Cadena SER.
The controversial contract was awarded on 21 October by Madrid to Guardian Homeland Security SA for more than 15 million 9 x 19-millimetre Parabellum-NATO bullets. ” Recent
¿ Que no sabian ?
¿ La Guardia no registra sus compras ?
Existe ellos que dicen :
– ¿HDP Sanchez aun a vuestro, perdon al servicio de “EU” y “Israel” ?
– Que España esta ya abierto a “Israelies” (entre muchos) a travez de EU.
– ¿ El Rey aun ausente, haciendo “puente entre pasado y futuro” ?
– Que los politicos son todos vendidos, como de derecha como de izquierda tradicional.
– Que mejor una dictadura (y obviamente no de VOX) que estos Nazis.
– Corruptos hasta el fondo.
Etc. etc. etc.
Pues te dejo en paz con lo que usted prefiere creer, igualmente la paz tiene un valor a que no se puede dar numero.
Repeating the set of local Palestine links….
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 31 2024 20:16 utc | 52

Probably accurate to stop referring to it as a war in Palestine and start calling it the Zionist Entity’s war or genocide ON Palestine.
🙁
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 13:20 utc | 1
Check out that hustler Bernie’s article on Guardian today. He explains why you should vote for Kamala despite her support for Israel’s “war”.
Nobody has done more to ruin the reputation of Socialism since Stalin. The guy is the worst enemy of the working class in the US today.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2024 20:18 utc | 53

The western diplomatic offensive on Lebanon fails
https://thecradle.co/articles/the-western-diplomatic-offensive-on-lebanon-fails
Security analyst Abdullah Qamh tells The Cradle that Israel’s calls to ‘liberate’ Lebanon from Hezbollah and elect a president aim to sideline Amal Party leader and Parliamentary Speaker Nabih Berri, a longtime Hezbollah ally who has overnight become the most powerful authority in the country. In response to Hochstein’s demands, Berri firmly rejected the so-called ‘1701+,’ which involves amending the UN resolution to favor Israeli terms. He also dismissed any discussion of a presidential election while Lebanon remains under assault.
Israel opposes Berri’s mediation role and prefers to secure a ceasefire with a compliant president, bypassing Hezbollah’s allies. Qamh sums up Hochstein’s mission as essentially an attempt to press the Lebanese state into exerting pressure on Hezbollah.
He points out that Berri’s insistence on keeping Resolution 1701 unchanged was met by Israeli attacks targeting Amal Movement strongholds, from Beirut’s Jnah area to the southern cities of Nabatieh and Tyre. According to Qahm, “Hochstein’s mediation is over, as Berri described the American envoy’s visit as a ‘last chance.’”

Hochtuastein’s hope of utilizing the Lebanese Forces Party like the Azov Brigade to domestically oppose Hezbollah appears to be disappointed. Nevertheless, any Lebanese who are not aligned with US/Israeli servitude risks assassination.

Posted by: Keme | Oct 31 2024 20:20 utc | 54

1492 – Was a big year for Spain…….the Muslims were defeated and expelled and the Jews were just expelled………..and Columbus began his exploration of the “New World” previously discovered by St. Brendan the Navigator eight hundred years before………..
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 31 2024 18:10 utc | 28
They “discovered” a land where people were already living! Don’t be so fucking eurocentric!

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 31 2024 20:23 utc | 55

There are a lot of people who should be in criminal courts. I was thinking that the financial aspect should come higher up the list of those guilty.
Yes, it is an “American” genocide, but the scale of support (from the UK, Germany, etc) should also be brought under control, and as I see it, the overall cost of running two “wars” (Uke and Gaza) at the expense of the non-consulted citizens of the “paying” countries, has reached a level where “Governments” should be held directly accountable.
Hit them where it hurts, in their pockets.
Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 31 2024 19:53 utc | 44
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Money doesn’t hurt. Confiscation of all property and death penalties hurt. Historical infamy should be a bare minimum expectation. Ostracism of family names such that 2 generations from now, the descendants of those Israelis who are being exposed on social media as participating in the genocide from posting themselves committing war crimes to social media.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 20:24 utc | 56

Reports about missile launcher movements in Iran, allegedly US bases in West Asia are on alert. Looks like count down has started.

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 31 2024 20:26 utc | 57

#12, love donbass
“We are not there yet”?
We have been there ever since a bunch of lying shonky areseholes claimed “god” had told them some stuff and if they did it his followers would get to have all the good stuff.
The Talmudic nonsense, satanic to its very core, is all about the utter subjugation of the entirety of humanity to their will, desires, demands and depravity. I don’t know about you but in my book that is a declaration of war. Not recognising that is, as the Palestinians are experiencing first hand, existentially fraught. That they have been allowed to get away with it for so long without being removed permanently from existence is one of the mysteries of the universe.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 31 2024 20:30 utc | 58

Posted by: Spanish Pipedream | Oct 31 2024 20:10 utc | 49
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All of the reported death numbers for Gaza are deliberately reported lower than they are. There is no incentive for anyone to make it look as bad as it is, certainly not any media or institutional source.
When this is finished, don’t be surprised if a million-plus Palestinians were slaughtered by the Americans and their European vassals.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 20:30 utc | 59

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 31 2024 20:30 utc | 58
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We are not there yet in that most people are still sleepwalking, expecting someone, somewhere to put a stop to it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 20:35 utc | 60

Re #14,
A workmate in Sydney, whose family were Egyptian told me in the early 90s that if Netanyahu got into power in Israel he would start WW3. He was absolutely of the view the man was the most evil person on the planet. Julian was his name, he would have been in his late 20s, early 30s at the time

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 31 2024 20:35 utc | 61

In light of the fact that the world is aghast at the televised genocidal massacre and starvation o the Palestinian people in Gaza, and that Israel has ignored all UN Security Council resolutions for a ceasefire and for humanitarian relief with respect to the health and food issues, is it open did the UN General Assembly to pass a resolution calling for boycott, divestment and or sanctions for Israel’s refusal to comply with the Security Council resolutions?

Posted by: chet380 | Oct 31 2024 20:36 utc | 62

The IDF Kia count of 367 is just malarky……….they lost more soldiers than than on one day October 7th.
The Kia count is realistically estimated at 2,000 with another 6,000 injured. Hamas has been very effective in asymmetric warfare in a perfect area of insurgency, namely the urban ruins of Gaza City and Rafah.
Bobby trapped buildings, mines, snipers, ATGM’s, RPG’s, are taking a huge daily toll on the IDF invaders.
In Lebanon, as many of us suspected all along, the IDF is encountering a dug in defense in depth infrastructure from Hezbollah which makes it very difficult to take and secure any ground at all. Afterall the Hezbollah forces have been preparing for this event since 2006, plenty of time to build tunnels, pillboxes, tank traps, minefields, booby traps and sight in ATGM’s, which they have in abundance. The Hezbollah units possess hundreds, if not thousands of Kornet and Javalin (courtesy of the Taliban black arms supermarket store) ATGM’s.
Is it any wonder that the IDF is now withdrawing ground forces from Lebanon and concentrating instead on leveling blocks of apartment buildings in Beruit with airpower?
With over 250 Merkava’s destroyed and 600 damaged, the Kia toll for that alone is nearly 1,000.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 31 2024 20:41 utc | 63

Posted by: chet380 | Oct 31 2024 20:36 utc | 62
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Don’t overlook that America disregards the UN and abuses its position on the Security Council to protect its agent, Israel.
Israel only operates with impunity because the American government allows it to.
What can the UN do? Nothing. Thankfully, that will be the end of the US institution of the UN which it has lied to and used to justify massacres. It may take a couple of decades but the UN is done. All of the world can see how hypocritical and impotent it is.
I don’t know that a Chinese sense of justice and law will be better, but it is hard to imagine it being much worse than the “Rules-Based-Order” of which none of us know a single rule and is an arbitrary and propagandistic (USA! USA!) exercise of power for the sake of power.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 20:50 utc | 64

I personally will be seeking capital punishment for every one of you.
@Badjoke | Oct 31 2024 18:47 utc | 35

It goes without saying that being such an ass accomplishes nothing. Who the heck do you think you are? Pol Pot? The Cheeto Bandito?
Such ludicrous pomposity is better ignored, only the ignorance screams so poignantly from Bigshoe’s unfortunate post. A rubber-nosed clown cannot be expected to remember that Pat Tillman (Kevin Tillman’s famous older brother) already got the death penalty — courtesy of inexplicable “friendly fire.” Has this penetrated yet? He was executed by the United States, Bigshoe.
This is definitely the last time I’ll waste my time like this. You wind up in a “pissing contest with a skunk” (that’s how Chas Freeman explained Iran’s reticence).

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 31 2024 22:04 utc | 65

I don’t know that a Chinese sense of justice and law will be better, but it is hard to imagine it being much worse than the “Rules-Based-Order” of which none of us know a single rule and is an arbitrary and propagandistic (USA! USA!) exercise of power for the sake of power.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 20:50 utc | 64
Hard to tell if it is worse, but if you consider the Chinese treatment of Tibetans, Falun Gong practitioners, and Uyghurs, they don’t seem to have any problem violating human rights either.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66

However, I think you might enjoy this docu, I am watching again now…Bitter lake.
All about stealing…Middle east explained since recently, since western hyenas came…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pn2z7zp1V0
Thank you b.
Posted by: stranger | Oct 31 2024 18:12 utc | 29
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I couldn’t follow this. The narrator starts with the statement that we are all confused and don’t know why.
Then there started a string of film clips that looked interesting and at first looked promising. But the film jump from one thing to the next with little to no explanation and also to different time frames. Sudden mention of “the fighting.” What fighting?
I gave up.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 22:12 utc | 67

Re #14,
A workmate in Sydney, whose family were Egyptian told me in the early 90s that if Netanyahu got into power in Israel he would start WW3. He was absolutely of the view the man was the most evil person on the planet. Julian was his name, he would have been in his late 20s, early 30s at the time
Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 31 2024 20:35 utc | 61
You don’t have to look hard to find a photo of Netanyahu where he looks demonic. But he’s just one entity, his facilators need dealing with.

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 31 2024 22:14 utc | 68

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66
difference is, what China does is within their domain, (not to mention exaggerated, but ill skip that for now, and play your game)
what usa et al does is far outside of their domain.
And USA kills and cripples millions all over the world.
But these are not considered human rights violations because “war”.
USA overthrows governments, and lets their puppets do the “human rights violations” to all who oppose the puppet.
USA is logarithmically more nasty than China ever was when it comes to “human rights violations”.
So to answer how a Chinese run world order would look, nobody knows. But if they become super power like USA was,Id suspect it would look a lot like USA is. Evil, bloodthirsty, arrogant and paternalistic. That is just how the powerful always act.

Posted by: UWDude | Oct 31 2024 22:22 utc | 69

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66
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How much of what you know about Chinese internal politics is from Western propaganda?
I ask because I have done a lot of research into the Uyghurs in the last year. These narratives seem to me to be an excuse for the US to sanction areas of high industrial output. It’s not like the American government loves Muslims or anything.
Many Uyghurs live comfortably and happily in China, seemingly able to practice their religion freely.
Falun Gong seems like yet another Western attempt to create a divisive movement inside of China, traditional Chinese philosophy combined with new-age meditation like something from yet another bad L Ron Hubbard novel.
We all know that the 14th Dalai Lama was working (supposedly, “unintentionally”) for the CIA (the 20-year Tibetan Program) from his admission.
Whatever China is actually doing, it is nothing like what America is doing to the Palestinians and Lebanese, or how it starved 100,000 Iraqi children to death.
Again, I don’t claim to be an expert on Chinese social values but can it really be as bad as what the West has done and is doing?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 22:38 utc | 70

https://asawinstanley.substack.com/p/did-british-police-raid-me-for-this/
Asa Winstanley of the Electronic Intifada on the UK “counter terror” police raid on his home and electronics. New Labour is positively infested with zealous pro-Israel genocidal sociopath Zionists.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 22:41 utc | 71

An old short of Nasrallah speaking about Jesus Christ, that will really make you pause to think if you’re a believer.
1:33 video link courtesy of Lebanese Christian War Correspondent Ghadi Francis.
Tragically, most American Christian Zionists don’t care about Christ’s example at all.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 22:44 utc | 72

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66
Falun Gong is a CIA/NED-financed anti-government cult. As laid out here:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/anti-china-cult-gets-us-government-money-runs-large-pro-trump-ad-campaign-.html
Here:
https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/175159.pdf
And here:
https://www.pdcnet.org/collection/show?id=jrv_2020_0008_0003_0298_0307&file_type=pdf
The Uighurs were never systematically persecuted. The ‘usual suspects’ (again, CIA and NED) were behind radicalizing a number of them in bordering regions and a few committed heinous terrorist attack per the standard CIA MO. All of the myths repeated ad nauseum in the “west” are based on one shady “researcher” and his “work.”
https://patrieoulamort.medium.com/the-uighur-genocide-myth-8d2151349db7
And…wait for it….Falung Gong.
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/ny-times-uighur-china-genocide-falun-gong/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 22:49 utc | 73

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 31 2024 22:38 utc | 70
The GrayZone has done a ton of investigative journalism on the myth of the “Uighur Genocide” and Falun Gong.
Literally everything we’ve been told here in the “west” stems from 2 groups: The US intelligence services and bought & paid for groups like Falun Gong and Uighur troublemakers motivated by $$$ and prestige.
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/30/reports-china-organ-harvesting-cult-falun-gong/
https://thegrayzone.com/?s=uighur

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 22:56 utc | 74

And from Slick Willie we get words like this

After evoking the attacks of October 7, 2023, Clinton suggested that no number of Palestinian deaths could ever be enough “…excuse me, I’m not keeping score that way. It isn’t how many we’ve had to kill…Hamas will force you to kill civilians if you want to defend yourself.”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 31 2024 22:57 utc | 75

Interesting that Spain expelled the Jews in 1492, the same year that a Spaniard ‘discovered’ the ‘new world’
🤔
Posted by: RP | Oct 31 2024 17:52 utc | 27
Jews were given the opportunity to convert to Catholicism, and many did. Loyola was a converted Spanish Jew and he went on to form the Jesuits, in fact many of that sect were originally Jewish. Some opine that these converted Jews simply went on to destroy the Catholics from within, The Jesuits have an interesting history as no doubt many here would know.

Posted by: Organic | Oct 31 2024 22:58 utc | 76

Hard to tell if it is worse, but if you consider the Chinese treatment of Tibetans, Falun Gong practitioners, and Uyghurs, they don’t seem to have any problem violating human rights either.
Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66
Call me when the Chinese are on record for putting an entire nation in a concentration camp and murdering, starving and terrorising them on a daily basis for more than half a century.
Now that you’ve seen what a genocide looks like in Gaza and Lebanon you can compare China’s behaviour.
There has never been such a thing in Tibet, Xinjiang or Taiwan.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 31 2024 23:06 utc | 77

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 31 2024 22:09 utc | 66
Posted by: Arch Bungle | October 31, 2024 at 23:06
By the way, snowleopard, if you’re finding it hard to tell which is worse you have something seriously broken inside mentally and spiritually.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 31 2024 23:09 utc | 78

“Check out that hustler Bernie’s article on Guardian today. He explains why you should vote for Kamala despite her support for Israel’s “war”.
Nobody has done more to ruin the reputation of Socialism since Stalin. The guy is the worst enemy of the working class in the US today.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 31 2024 20:18 utc | 53
Well said. If the left had a Judas his name would be Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 31 2024 23:16 utc | 79

Perhaps, at least here on MoA, readers will come to acknowledge that Spain’s expulsion of the ‘chosen’ in 1492 was necessary for the peace and survival of that nation. Isabella was a saintly queen -kind,charitable,virtuous- but also fiercely patriotic, courageous and truly concerned for the welfare of her people.
Posted by: hispanidad | Oct 31 2024 17:10 utc | 22
You are correct, Hispanidad. It was absolutely necessary, no matter what the beguiled historians, whose minds and whole thought processes are immersed in the myths and lies of the Black Legend, may have put to print. Unfortunately, most people (especially in the Anglo-Saxon west) to this day subscribe to this nonsense, including many on this hallowed portal.
Back in her day it was a time of monarchy and like Catherine the Great of Russia Isabella was a superb Christian woman and leader. She ended over 700 hundred years of Islamic occupation, and expelled the ‘chosen’ in 1492, due to their infiltration and corruption of Spanish society and the Church. As already stated it was necessary.
A good back published in the 1930s about Queen Isaballa can be found here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Isabella-Spain-William-Thomas-Walsh-ebook/dp/B01JHP4H0C/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3FJIXOT97PQPW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WmMlyTsOr5aSV41zID46EJIWg3uDkgcxhlNJgRbQq__GjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.MPB_KAaSjHio_vWX5gB08WNYMR0_e3z8WLEUBcBbVws&dib_tag=se&nsdOptOutParam=true&s=books&sprefix=isabella+of+spain+the+last+crusader%2Cstripbooks%2C94
It is well worth a read to Catholic and non-Catholic alike.
Sorry for being Off Topic, B, but I think the expulsion of the crypto Jews from Spain in 1492 by Isabella and Ferdinand could be relevant to a possible scenario that could unfold in the near future after the coming defeat of the genocidal Zionist entity.
The ‘chosen’ who were expelled from Spain were heavily involved, and in many instances financed it, the so called Reformation across many northern European contries, England, Scotland, France, Netherlands, Switzerland, and of course Germany. It tore western Europe apart and it has never recovered to this day. Hundreds of thousands died in internecine wars for decades afterwards.
When the inevitable happens, that is when most zionist diehards and headcases leave the land that they stole, they will come to the USA, UK, and the EU.
Be prepared for the anarchy and predation that will ensue when they land in your neighbourhood.

Posted by: Vercingetorix | Oct 31 2024 23:20 utc | 80

Dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s. Patiently addressing all the diplomatic niceties… before smacking the crap out of you-know-whom? Lurking elsewhere, I noticed karloff1 asking whether Iran might choose USA’s election day for their next aerial production. Nice thought, that. I can dream, can’t I?

“Therefore, the Islamic Republic of Iran reserves the inherent right to legitimate defense in light of the recent Israeli attacks against some structure inside Iran to prevent further violations of its sovereignty and territorial integrity and repulse the regime from persisting in its crimes and brutalities, as Operations True Promise I and II proved,” the note read.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/505694/Iran-won-t-hesitate-to-defend-sovereignty-UN-mission

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 31 2024 23:24 utc | 81

https://x.com/amalsaad_lb/status/1851705728421216475
Amal Saad @amalsaad_lb
THREAD: Israel’s sweeping evacuation orders and strikes across Baalbek today are yet more evidence of its systematic targeting of Lebanon’s Shia community, reinforcing concerns of an intentional ethnic cleansing campaign. This is not confined to Baalbek; it’s part of a broader strategy that combines direct ethnic cleansing with ethnic cleansing by proxy, as Israel reportedly employs right-wing Christian groups and militias to enforce Shia expulsion—and repeated secondary displacement—on its behalf. 1/
https://x.com/amalsaad_lb/status/1851705730547495361
Israel’s actions go far beyond issuing evacuation orders or targeting overwhelmingly Shia areas in Lebanon, like the South and Beirut’s Dahyeh. Entire historic cities like Baalbek and Tyre have faced both evacuation orders and direct strikes, while entire villages along the border have been leveled through controlled demolitions to ensure they remain uninhabitable, preventing any chance of return—a core element of ethnic cleansing. Residential buildings housing displaced Shia communities across various regions of Lebanon are also under direct attack, underscoring the expansive and deliberate nature of this campaign. 2/
https://x.com/amalsaad_lb/status/1851705732724396535
The scale and specificity of these actions point to intentions that surpass both military objectives and targeted displacement, indicating a calculated effort to alter Lebanon’s demographic landscape permanently. For Lebanon’s Shia community, this war has become existential—they are the direct targets of Israel’s campaign, facing Netanyahu’s declared vision of a “New Middle East” in which they have no place. 3/
https://x.com/amalsaad_lb/status/1851705734834348379
In Gaza, Israel’s strategic objective is the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, with Hamas perceived as an impediment to this aim due to its role in defending the population. In Lebanon, Hizbullah’s signifcantly greater power and capabilities makes it harder to eliminate directly, so Israel is now focusing on uprooting its foundation—the Shia “resistance community” itself. After repeated unsuccessful attempts to weaken Hizbullah by decapitating its entire military and political leadership and maiming and blinding thousands of its cadres, Israel has shifted to dismantling the community that underpins its support. 4/…….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 31 2024 23:24 utc | 82

Now that you’ve seen what a genocide looks like in Gaza and Lebanon you can compare China’s behaviour.
There has never been such a thing in Tibet, Xinjiang or Taiwan.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 31 2024 23:06 utc | 77
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A macabre but valid point.
Gaza genocide: A benchmark for sadism, inhumanity, and shameless depravity.
Of course the Zionists’ treatment of the Palestinians provided a similar but less horrific benchmark since at least the 1930s.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 23:32 utc | 83

The first thing any country which is suffering a potential revolution should do is eject all US embassy and consular personnel. Whatever happened to learning from history?

Posted by: D J G | Oct 31 2024 23:38 utc | 84

First, the narrative is a path. Then, it quickly becomes a tunnel. Finally, a coffin.
First we grope for the obvious that allows us to move through the expected: the definitions, the dogmas. The predictable gives us time. The established gives us the invaluable opportunity to stop thinking, to make decisions.
Then, the rest ceases to exist, we no longer have access to alternatives.
We have run aground in a bubble of synchronous perception, perfectly designed to direct our smallest thoughts in any direction, and through them, our behaviors…and: our priceless validation, justification, total legitimization of Power.
Therefore, information not relevant to our assigned tasks stops reaching our communication channels, our screen, our neighborhood. Before we realize it, we no longer even have the right to comment on our daily life if it does not fit into the usual scheme.
And if!! What was going to happen!!
If we get used to listening to a story that speaks of us, to believing, to being part of, to being a thread of the plot that repeats exactly the same thing every day.
And the same is true: our predetermined story being told in every detail, as if we had already died. Consoling ourselves with the supposed possibilities of choice that we had, we will have, or we would have if we are still alive in the minute that follows this one.
In reality, our story is one, lived by millions every day, by nine billion fleeting automatons called human beings. Our story is the same as another, and another. And they left us no room for anything other than nonsense.
We exhaust our time in the relentless submission to the superficial, to the inconsequential, and in the voluntary surrender to some fable (religion, television, inflation, self-satisfaction) that allows us to explain the world we perceive.
Thus, we can give our voice, our time, our life to the random decision of the established power and play our role without assuming any responsibility. We are just instruments of an alien and annoying war.
We can separate ourselves from our participation and the effects of the massacre, and feel content just to stay alive until tomorrow. The system produces an infinite range of excuses and justifications for free. We need compassion.
We were accustomed to being human, gender, species, tribe, race, nation.
Corporation.
But it is a lie, we are not part of the human race. We are -each one- a person. The species does not vary due to the small accidental lag of our disappearance. Culture does not need us. Time will not stop.
That is the true narrative. Even if we do not assimilate it, we have no way of growing by contributing outwards. As individual beings, there is no way of coupling our vital force to a structure destined to produce objects, myths or prophets, without losing our vital force, our authentic purpose, along the way.
Without putting at risk our instinctive determination to be free.
How can it be that our total attention is directed towards other people, making every minute of our lives dependent on what they say, think or feel? How can it be that our energy is focused on institutions or factories? On religions? Ideology? Clothing brands?
The only path that will take us anywhere is inward, back to ourselves. It is giving total meaning to the second that passes through our environment (as do all other living beings on the planet).
Could we live or die tomorrow without regret? Without complaints to make? Could we wake up tomorrow without predetermined decisions? Without wrapping ourselves in expected behavior? Without financial or spiritual dues to pay?
No. Tomorrow either. Let us look in the mirror every day, to declare: “The system is me.”
https://textosandroides.blogspot.com/2024/06/narrativas.html

Posted by: Santi | Oct 31 2024 23:41 utc | 85

DON’T feed the trucking Trolls!
STAY on the Trucking Topic!!
GO to the Open Thread, that’s what it’s for!!!
half of this thread is a trucking WASTE of Time
I’ve wanted to say this from Trucking Time to Time, especially in the Palestine threads…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 31 2024 23:46 utc | 86

The ‘chosen’ who were expelled from Spain were heavily involved, and in many instances financed it, the so called Reformation across many northern European countries, England, Scotland, France, Netherlands, Switzerland, and of course Germany.. . .
Posted by: Vercingetorix | Oct 31 2024 23:20 utc | 80
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Can you provide any sources for the Jews’ financing of the Reformation?
I have seen evidence of the intertwining via marriage of important Converso and Dutch banking families and of many connections between Sephardic Jewish families and Amsterdam. But have not seen evidence of Jewish finances behind the Reformation or the Thirty Years’ War.
I am not a historian am just asking.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 31 2024 23:47 utc | 87

Fortunately the readership didn’t change so the comments section of ZH provides plenty of healthy insights on the regimist articles 😋😋😋
Posted by: Exile | Oct 31 2024 15:27 utc | 8
The readership didn’t change…much. But the new owners killed the comment section. I started on ZH on 2009 just as they moved from their blog, then GooTube clipped their wings.
Better than nothing, but if you want full throttle Israel butt-licking check out Kane or Gateway. “My Israel, right or wrong”. Vomit inducing.
The good news is no Foreign Mercenaries are going to arrive to assist in killing babies, although Joe Biden might be useful to sniff babies to death.

Posted by: kupkee | Oct 31 2024 23:53 utc | 88

why are the West’s ‘democratic’ governments always tightening control over free speech,
especially when applied to israel committing its genocides and ethnic cleansings on several different fronts,
and killing 100s of thousands of innocent Palestinian and Lebanese people in the process
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1852110437468508278
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Why are western governments falling all over themselves to outlaw criticism of Israel? Is it because their position is so logically robust and truth-based and morally defensible?
https://x.com/wideofthepost/status/1851829076735975499
austerity is theft @wideofthepost
here’s the plan for “after the election”
https://x.com/stephen_neukam/status/1851422697172897869
Stephen Neukam @stephen_neukam
Scoop: Chuck Schumer recently promised Jewish leaders he will try to pass the Antisemitism Awareness Act THIS YEAR.
The bill gives the DoE more tools to enforce anti-discrimination rules.
Schumer said he plans to attach it to the NDAA. W/ @HansNichols

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 1 2024 0:10 utc | 89

Consortium News still doesn’t have full control over their domain.
https://consortiumnews.com
Still resolves to fake architect site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 31 2024 15:46 utc | 12
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Had the same problem until I cleared my cookies.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Nov 1 2024 0:15 utc | 90

Some opine that these converted Jews simply went on to destroy the Catholics from within, The Jesuits have an interesting history as no doubt many here would know.
Posted by: Organic | Oct 31 2024 22:58 utc | 76
One parasitic, evil entity destroying another evil, parasitic entity.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 0:57 utc | 91

Vercingetorix @ 80:
As Jane says @ 87, you need to demonstrate sources and evidence that show Jews having financed the Protestant Reformation across northern Europe.
During the Reformation, there were very few Jews living in England as the majority of them had been expelled from the country by the end of the 13th century. England did not have a substantial Jewish population until after the mid-1600s when Oliver Cromwell began inviting Jewish groups to settle in the country.
Most Jews who left Spain and Portugal after King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella issued the Alhambra Decree in 1492 went into the Ottoman Empire’s domains in northern Africa and the eastern Mediterranean region, and to Italy. The Netherlands began receiving Jews from Spain and Portugal after winning independence from Spain in the 1580s.
The main reason that the Catholic monarchs expelled Jews from Spain after the Reconquista was that historically Jews had been in service of the Muslim rulers of Granada and other Muslim states that had occupied the Iberian Peninsula for more than 500 years. The new Christian rulers of a united Spain were not sure of Jewish loyalty towards them. The Roman Catholic Church also stood to benefit from Jewish expulsion, in that Jewish civil servants forced to leave Spain could be replaced by people chosen by the Church (often one of its own).

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Nov 1 2024 1:01 utc | 92

farm ecologist | 90
Cookies can only redirect within a domain… dont take my word look it up. If you’re being redirected to a complete ‘nother site you have (not had) something more concerning than corrupt cookies goin on.

Posted by: NJH | Nov 1 2024 1:03 utc | 93

@michealj72
Thank you for all the excellent links, always, you do your due diligence for all of us.
As for the Axios article concerning Schumer? If they pass that bill, we can be guaranteed to be silenced.
I live very close to the border of Mexico, I’ve debated all year as to stay or go? Pretty certain that’ll make it pretty easy for me to go, anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism. Free Free Palestine!
Much love and respect to the bar

Posted by: Bella | Nov 1 2024 1:14 utc | 94

@michealj72
Thank you for all the excellent links, always, you do your due diligence for all of us.
As for the Axios article concerning Schumer? If they pass that bill, we can be guaranteed to be silenced.
I live very close to the border of Mexico, I’ve debated all year as to stay or go? Pretty certain that’ll make it pretty easy for me to go, anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism. Free Free Palestine!
Much love and respect to the bar

Posted by: Bella | Nov 1 2024 1:16 utc | 95

Update-Washington CIA Post:
Lebanon (non-existent) Ceasefire
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-hits-north-gaza-s-last-functioning-hospital-officials-say-u-s-envoys-visit-israel/ar-AA1tfbD8
Highlights:
1) Senior Biden administration officials met Thursday with Israel’s prime minister and defense minister in an effort to secure a cease-fire in Lebanon as Israel’s strikes on its northern neighbor continued.
2) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Biden officials that Israel’s priority was to “thwart any threat to its security from Lebanon, in a manner that will return our residents securely to their homes,”
Interesting 🤔
3) Lebanon’s prime minister, Najib Mikati, said in a televised interview Wednesday he had been skeptical that a cease-fire could be reached before the U.S. election, but that after speaking with Hochstein shortly before the interview, he believed that “maybe we can reach a cease-fire in the next few days.” **** He also said that Hezbollah had agreed to “separate the Lebanese front from Gaza,” referring to Hezbollah’s longtime condition***that the group would agree to a truce in Lebanon only after a cease-fire was reached in the Gaza Strip.
Mikati’s optimistic assessment contrasted with comments made by Hezbollah’s new leader, ***Naim Qassem, who said in a speech Wednesday that there was not yet a cease-fire proposal “that Israel agrees to and that is open for us to discuss.” 🤔??People familiar with the negotiations over the last few months, ?? speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter, said ***Hezbollah had agreed to a cease-fire —-before an Israeli strike killed its former leader, Hasan Nasrallah, in late September.
(So… some “people” said Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire that didn’t involve Gaza & Mikati decided ?…who knows what Mikati was doing…)
Sounds like Orc mischief to me…
Anyways…
4) A member of Hamas’s political bureau stated that the group had recently received multiple cease-fire proposals, all of which were rejected. The Hamas official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to speak publicly, said, “Hamas’s position is firm, the demands are clear, and none of the proposals include a final cease-fire or a complete withdrawal from the Gaza Strip
So, as expected, political theater before the Big Bang election…
And Iran to strike.
Or Israel.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Nov 1 2024 1:18 utc | 96

Cookies can only redirect within a domain… dont take my word look it up. If you’re being redirected to a complete ‘nother site you have (not had) something more concerning than corrupt cookies goin on.
Posted by: NJH | Nov 1 2024 1:03 utc | 93
I tried to access CN after it was hacked and it went to a page that had the same URL but it was obviously not their regular site. I continued to get the bogus page after they fixed the problem, but as soon as I cleared my cookies the problem went away, i.e., I am no longer being re-directed. I don’t know when I received the cookies, but perhaps it was before the hack occurred.
Should I be concerned?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Nov 1 2024 1:31 utc | 97

Reminder: One can buy almost anything from Alibaba, Aliexpress, Temu, etc at cheaper prices than elsewhere.

Posted by: I forgot | Nov 1 2024 1:37 utc | 98

In response to

Should I be concerned?
Posted by: farm ecologist | Nov 1 2024 1:31 utc | 97

The short answer is no but you may want to go to the link I am providing and learn the basics about cookies.
https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/definitions/cookies

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 1 2024 1:38 utc | 99

In my feed today pops up a story about baby powder in the USA being recalled because of contamination with asbestos.
How the hell does asbestos get into baby powder??
Baby powder of all things!
Asbestos!??
So I think to myself: this isn’t accidental.
This is deliberate.
I look up the owners of dynarex corporation and what do I find:
https://dynarex.com/leadership
A bunch of grinning small hats.
I tell you, folks. These people are out to kill us in every way possible.
And the evidence is all around you!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 1 2024 1:54 utc | 100