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October 29, 2024

Palestine Open Thread 2024-260

What is left to say about this?

UNRWA is, since 1949, mandated by the United Nations. Banning it is a breach of customary international law.

There is no evidence that any of the strikes in Gaza and Lebanon hit any militant. From what is known all killed and wounded were civilians.

What is left to say about this? How am I supposed to express my outrage?

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- reprinting my last comment in the old Palestine thread

Per the linked article, "According to Russian military sources, it can jam communication systems with a range from 5,000 to 8,000 km. On August 3, 2024, it was announced that Iran installed several Russian long-range electronic warfare systems, including the Murmansk-BN, in strategic locations across the country."
Posted by: Outrage Beyond | Oct 29 2024 4:07 utc | 264

I was into that in a previous Palestine thread when Indian punchline published the claim about Murmansk-BN deployment in Iran.
I was the first one here to tell you that Russia never gave those SU35 and S400 to Iran while everyone were insisting the opposite, now you come and tell me they have deployed a game-changer toy (allegedly) just like that in a country which is world champion in reverse-engineering of military toys?

Ask yourself the simple question, why should the Temporary Zionist regime send fighters in direction Iran if they knew (like you) that there are Murmansk-BN equipment on the ground confronting their fighters?

My 2 cents, they thought backbone of Iran AD is S300 and designed a operation far too complex for S300 to handle and then they got a Mohammad-Ali-Kelly punch in the face by Mr. Bavar373. This confirms that Iran's best card in a battle against the Temporary Zionist regime is the obvious "Superiority Complex" among Zionists.

Come with some better fairy tale, my friend.

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 29 2024 9:19 utc | 287

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 29 2024 10:04 utc | 1

I'm sure I speak for many MoA barflies and lurkers in saying that I sympathise with B's outrage and frustration at the actions of a psychopathic state - actions that can stop if the West didn't supply Israel with weapons in the first place.

We can probably take some comfort in knowing that everything Israel does and plans to do serve in the long run to hasten its demise. Indeed, there seems to be a sense that time is already running out for Israel, and everything it has done over the past 76 years is now speeding up and going into hyperdrive. Its economy is collapsing, investment is drying up, sane people are leaving the country, and the politicians in charge are either religious whacko fanatics or cynical and corrupt, or both.

It would be an irony and a cosmic joke if Israel were to be destroyed by its own intersection of Zionism and fundamentalist Talmudic Judaism, and the burdens these place on the state.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 29 2024 10:05 utc | 2

I have no words this time.

I leave it all in the hands of the Universal Consciousness.


Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 29 2024 10:10 utc | 3

Look like the IDF has had enough of Lebanon. No success but high losses. Time to slink out.

IDF: Military goals in Lebanon have been achieved, gov't can promote diplomatic resolution - JPost
Most of the terrorist infrastructure and ordnance near the Lebanon-Israel border have been destroyed, the IDF reported.

I doubt that Netanyahoo and the lunatics will agree with that ...

Posted by: b | Oct 29 2024 10:10 utc | 4

US, UK, Cyprus(UK), Germany, Italy, Greece ... skip the deceptive text, go straight to the Video-clip, do not pass GO.

Succinct, concise, collated data over last ~386 days ...

Significance, conclusions to be drawn ... obvious, since 8Oct23. The non-stop airlift 24/7/365 that enables the Zionist genocide/War Crimes.

Al-Jazeera investigation Brightcove 1m06s

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 29 2024 10:16 utc | 5

we are all without words
I can't eat, I can't sleep, I can't enjoy anything in my daily life knowing that children in gaza and lebanon are depraved from their basic rights.
The monsters will pay for this.

Posted by: Animal | Oct 29 2024 10:42 utc | 6

And don’t forget that Metanyahu “punked” the notion of even a two day ceasefire, telling hidebound stooges like Blinken and Al-Sisi to go pound sand until after the election.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 29 2024 10:43 utc | 7

They (Israel) can do whatever they want because they know they own the American politicians of BOTH parties. In fact, I think Donald Trump getting elected would be the worst possible outcome for the Middle East.

Posted by: bored | Oct 29 2024 10:55 utc | 8

Refinnejenna | Oct 29 2024 10:05 utc | 2

Maybe they'll "self destruct."

Posted by: KingCobra | Oct 29 2024 10:57 utc | 9

I have no words this time.

I leave it all in the hands of the Universal Consciousness.


Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 29 2024 10:10 utc | 3

Two thumbs up.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 29 2024 11:05 utc | 10

Crucifixion of Gaza


1.. To put to death by nailing or binding the wrists or hands and feet to a cross.
2. to destroy the strength, vitality, or functioning of
3. to treat cruelly : TORMENT

Posted by: south | Oct 29 2024 11:14 utc | 11

Yesterday I was in Greek Orthodox Church, washing up after my sister's wedding. Talking with a Cypriot he commented that Greek Cypriots know what genocide is and that from what is reported on the News, Palestine Lebanon didn't look like a genocide. Azerbaijan, even the recent one by Boris Johnson was a genocide.

Nobody calls the Ukraine war a genocide because neither the Azov nor Russia are fighting for a moral or religious cause. It's a proxy fight between NATO and Russia about the proximity of Nukes to Moscow.

If you call this genocide in Palestine a Crusade, in which the primary conflict is between the religions of US, UK and Israel, you get shouted down. Of course every war is about land because it is fought on land, but in order to be able to deal with war, you have to face up to what is driving it in order to be able to find a resolution to the conflict.

So my answer to our long- suffering history is that the Israelis are multi ethnic and the Palestinians and Lebanese are multi ethic. Until one braces oneself for the truth that they are fighting a proxy war between Christianity and Islam nobody will find a solution.

We live in a PC world where religious hatred is suppressed. To a Muslim the theology of God, Jesus and the Angel Gabriel, the Trinity , is total blasphemy at the very epicentre of our religion.

To a Christian or Jew , God is mostly impotent and uninterested in what humans do. This is reflected in the way they report the News. If you cover up what you do, who's going to know?

Cover up and the Arabic word Kufr, disbelief, curiously, mean the same thing, DENIAL. So, b., the affront to our sensibilities is not the offence, but the denial of thexsignificance of the offence.

I have no way of describing the significance of the offence of the offen e of genocide except the Mosaic commandment Not to Kill, or even Envy your neighbour, amd the equivalent in the Qur'an . The Qur'an tells the believers to kill the deniers of the holy commandments Not to Kill.

Once one starts taking killing as unimportant, as the Western world is now treating this genocide, one is opening the doors to World War.

That might be the intention, mowing the world grass, which would not be a Christian Crusade, but rather a Globalists ' War against the rest of Humanity, an Externmination of Humanity because if competition for resources.

Pure Evil.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2024 11:15 utc | 12

Arch Bungle | Oct 29 2024 10:10 utc | 3

I leave it all in the hands of the Universal Consciousness

In flux with endless plasma, blasted by solar winds in a sky full of suns, astrophysical forces contorting all limits, white dwarfs, black holes, ghost lights pulsing,

the universe will provide.


Posted by: john | Oct 29 2024 11:28 utc | 13

Fabio Carisso's reminder about the double play being part of the empires ongoing genocide

https://www.gospanews.net/en/2024/10/28/intel-drops-the-huge-iranian-geopolitical-mistake-on-alliance-with-hamas-terrorists-led-by-cia-mossad/

"INTEL DROPS: Huge Iranian Geopolitical Error on Alliance with HAMAS’ Terrorists stealthily led by CIA-Mossad"
By Fabio G. C. Carisio - October 28, 2024

The anglosaxons contributing to the debate on altmedia dont put enough emphasis on the US/UK as the enablers for all this evil and instead are actually supporting it by NOT exposing the ridiculous fraud in seing Israel as a separate actor.

Instead of saying 'we'and our upper classes are the culprits.
'We' because we dont like to bring to people's attention that Israel and all who are in symbiosis with it in the US are continuing our longterm consistent project of expanding the empire and using genocide as our typical mode of operation.
The grassroots are an important instrument in the imperial toolbox to uphold the false beliefs that the empire is hiding behind.
The upper classes, realising the west cannot compete without dramatic changes, stick together to support the imperial elimination of wordwide resistance.
The dramatic changes would not be all bad for the elites but they do fear internal opposition more than they fear the west's inefficient economy.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 29 2024 11:29 utc | 14

South Africa today submitting 4500 page document of genocidal proof to ICJ tofay might give some hope.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 29 2024 11:53 utc | 15

Forgive....then Let go....Chuckle!

Posted by: Love on Line | Oct 29 2024 11:54 utc | 16

It would be an irony and a cosmic joke if Israel were to be destroyed by its own intersection of Zionism and fundamentalist Talmudic Judaism, and the burdens these place on the state.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 29 2024 10:05 utc | 2

I am not sure how far they are from realizing, but for the past few decades they've crippled every other country which acted as the host for the "scribe & Pharisee" duo, and these days they are desperate for help from these same nations...
It also occurs to me they're not immune to their own propaganda - if evil, darkness, was competent, it'd be over already.


Maybe they'll "self destruct."
Posted by: KingCobra | Oct 29 2024 10:57 utc | 9

With an innate need for control over their "inferiors", and yet an innate inability to do anything that doesn't end up in dragging their hosts down with them, I wonder how that "self destruction" will look like?

Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 29 2024 11:56 utc | 17

In the article that B links to, the 96 Palestinians killed were murdered over the weekend. Then I read about this: this morning - Tuesday - (would have been in the middle of the night/very early a.m. in the Middle East), the Israelis killed 93 Palestinians in one housing unit in the Belt Lahia Project in northern Gaza Strip. Multiple sources reporting.

Two short telegram posts on it:

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 11:57 utc | 18

#12 "neither the Azov nor Russia are fighting for a moral or religious cause. It's a proxy fight between NATO and Russia about the proximity of Nukes to Moscow."

Ukraine's biolabs funded by USSA, Inc appear to have been part of an attempt at worldwide genocide. The COVID fraud meets all the criteria of a genocide.

Posted by: Matt | Oct 29 2024 12:00 utc | 19

Should probably read: "Israeli forces kill AT LEAST 98 Palestinians in UNDER 48 hrs" but whatever.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 29 2024 12:03 utc | 20

A my # 18: That was weird. Doesn't like the links? Let me try again. BTW, if you click on the links, you may have to scroll up or down to see the exact post I quote. These guys keep posting new items as the day goes on.
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The Abu Nasr family hosted dozens of residents who had fled to the Beit Lahia project to escape the occupation’s raids. The occupation bombed it while they were sleeping, and dozens of them were martyred.

Pictures from the horrific massacre that took place this morning. Up until now, residents have counted 93 martyrs in the Abu Nasr family massacre in the Beit Lahia project, north of Gaza.

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?after=79799&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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the house contained 300 people, 100 were rescued and the rest are under the rubble.

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 12:07 utc | 21

Matt 19

By the same people. Exactly so.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2024 12:12 utc | 22

What is left to say? Well Izzyhell just pledged to assassinate President Assad of Syria. The word lawlessness doesn't even come close. What more to say? The appalling behavior of these lunatic mad dog psychopaths guarantees that the world sees them as what they are: Murderous thieving thugs. I know some of you will tisk tisk, but for me, if Tel Aviv was to be glassed over I would feel the world a better place. Unfortunately, the ones that are fleeing will no doubt get to stealing in their new locale ASAP. Does that sound racist? Yes, I do discriminate against people who think it's fun to do double taps on babies.

Yes, Matt - the covid fraud does seem to be part of a greater genocidal plan. In fact, a stated goal of the Club of Rome is the reduction of world population from seven billion to one billion. "Culling" is the technical term. The only solution that I can see is that each individual must stop funding the genocide. Don't shop at Wommit. Azone. Gargle. Pay cash. Get out of debt. Don't feed the usury monster. Don't buy GMO frankenfood because it's "cheaper." How many of the peeps will venture out of the sheep pen? This of course is from the Murika, Perfidious Albion, EU side. I wonder how the rest of the world feels... Anyone?

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 29 2024 12:16 utc | 23

This nightmare has long passed the expressive ability of any language.

There are no words in any language for what the Zionists are doing, and for the inaction of the world, except the Resistance Front.

But right now Gaza, especially its northern part, need immediate, urgent assistance, Solidarity and Courage.

If I was a doctor, I would call on my willing colleagues to go with me to Gaza in defiance of everything Israel is doing and stands for; a long line of international medics entering Gaza challenging Israel to attack this chain of solidarity

If I was a member of any of the international and national food providing entities I would call on my willing colleaguesto go to Gaza with food in our hands and challenge Israel to attack this life saving human chain

If I was an official of a state of the world majority, I would call on officials of all states of the majority to go to Gaza and challenge Israel to attack the long column of representatives of the majority of world states

If I was a soldier that understands that what Israel is doing is contrary to soldiering, I would call on my fellow soldiers from all other states who are willing to go to Gaza unarmed and challenge Israel to attack

There are SO many things that can be done to force the Israeli freak to either kill everyone coming into Gaza with help, or back down.

As for ALL the states with their militaries, weapons stockpiles, and all expensive apparatuses they possess - they are worthy only of disgust and contempt because they do not understand that this is the time when defending the unarmed Palestinians, and with that humanity as such, is a fundamental human imperative that necessitates and justifies action.

Posted by: JB | Oct 29 2024 12:25 utc | 24

They (Israel) can do whatever they want because they know they own the American politicians of BOTH parties. In fact, I think Donald Trump getting elected would be the worst possible outcome for the Middle East.

Posted by: bored | Oct 29 2024 10:55 utc | 8

I don't think the result of the US election will have too much influence of the outcome in occupied Palestine, although it might affect the rate at which things progress. Israel does whatever it wants while it can, but eventually it will not be able to continue, either through economic or geopolitical factors. How much of the Palestinian community remains at that time is a matter for speculation - some indiginous populations in the past were actually completely wiped out. But I have a feeling that Palestine will emerge proudly from its predicament, while Israel and its enablers suffer the shame of their conduct. Look at how the conduct of Great Britain over the past centuries is now coming back to haunt it, with the Commonwealth of Nations, that used to be a club of vassals, now demands reparations. Maybe Britain will have to leave the British Commonwealth? One day, Israel will have to accomodate its neighbours, and every tiny morsel of resistance today, brings that day closer.

Posted by: Decorum | Oct 29 2024 12:26 utc | 25

Everything they do is breach of customary international law.

Which shows there's no law without enforcement and that international law is politics in a horse hair wig.

After they have broken it once then it just becomes a statistic.

Not one sanction against them. Which is to be expected from the West. However, Turkey, the arabs, other Muslims, should hold their heads in shame.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 29 2024 12:31 utc | 26

I don't think there is any chance for the residents of Gaza. Israel will drive them out and vacate Gaza. What's wrong with the resistance? or is the information in the media all wrong? According to sources, Iran has also been hit hard in missile production and apparently Israel and Iran don't want a big war either. has the Arab world come to terms with the fate of Gaza and Lebanon?

Posted by: Ronny | Oct 29 2024 12:38 utc | 27

Does anybody know if China or Russia has put any sanctions on Israel ?

If not, why not ?

They really do need to start this ball rolling. Maybe, if they start others will follow ? They can't simply sit around and talk about it as this slaughter continues.

They all Queued up to sanction Russia. Yet, just look at their actions as they are faced with this genocide. Shame is written large over all the Muslim world.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 29 2024 12:47 utc | 28

Elites listen. a sapient planet is asleep. Elastine lean.

spine in splint. silent plains.

Spleen split. pints spilt.

I paint a list

sent ten planes

leap eels

a pet's pleas
a pa's pleas

a neat snipe

slain in pens

steal plaits

spite is a sin

an inept easel

paint a lens

anil a tape

a silent pliant senate

a salient pain

Palestine

Posted by: south | Oct 29 2024 13:01 utc | 29

Elites listen. a sapient planet is asleep. Elastine lean.

spine in splint. silent plains.

Spleen split. pints spilt.

Ia paint a list

sent ten planes

leap eels

a pet's pleas
a pa's pleas

a neat snipe

slain in pens

steal plaits

spite is a sin

an inept easel

paint a lens

anil a tape

a silent pliant senate

a salient pain

Palestine

Posted by: south | Oct 29 2024 13:02 utc | 30

Unexpected anger exposes a possible link to how Israel knew where Hezbollah high level officials were? Apparently the Lebanon high command sees comments by Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, speaker of the Iranian parliament, published in Le Figaro, about UN Resolution 1701 AWA Hezbollah's presence in Lebanon as “interference” in Lebanon’s sovereign internal affairs?

Question: is the political structure in Lebanon jealous, truly concerned or are Israeli Trojans in control? Wonder if Iran will decide it needs to invade Lebanon in order to protect Iran's interest? IMO, this has the potential to get very interesting.

both Al Jazeera and Al-Arabiya say Hassan Nasrallah's replacement as Deputy Secretary-General will be Sheikh Naim Qassem. Interesting in light of the above, because it was Qassem who recently was looking to negotiate a ceasefire with Israel.


Posted by: Ronny | Oct 29 2024 12:38 utc | 27 askes
"..has the Arab world come to terms with the fate of Gaza and Lebanon?.." <= I say from the above it is beginning to look that way.. Gotta remember Russia and Iran are oil and gas producing and exporting states and China is there biggest customer.


Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 29 2024 11:29 utc | 14 says:
"We (Americans) don't like to bring to people's attention that Israel and all who are in symbiosis with it in the US are continuing our long term consistent project of expanding the empire and using genocide as our typical mode of operation."
<<= I believe the religious differences [while real to those involved ] were strategically created and are maintained to keep the players in the area divided and therefore conquered. The goal that justified creating and supporting "ISRAEL" lay beneath its surface. Sovereign nation states have rights and powers not easily accessible by imperialistic reach [invasion, occupation and absentee management]. The goal was and is IMO, to obtain, maintain and monopolize the oil and gas beneath the old Ottoman Empire. It is better in appearance if done via a state with jurisdiction over a territory vs the problems associated with trying to do the same thing via imperialist reach (colonization].

A sovereign state to manage, operate, distribute the profits from the oil and gas beneath the surface eliminates the look of being a conquering imperial empire extracting middle east wealth. But WWI delivered control and ownership of the oil and gas beneath the Ottoman empire to western capitalist and WWII removed Germany from access to that Oil and Gas. IMO, the destruction of Nord Steam II, the SMO in Ukraine, blocking Russian oil and gas from reach European markets (sanctions) and the recent dispersion of Palestinians from Gaza are all part of
the preparations needed to replace Russian oil and gas supplies with western oil and gas supplies.
IMO, there is no other reason for the facts outlined by Mearsheimer and Walt in their book The Israel Lobby and U. S. Foreign Policy.

Once again it is important to remember the armed and dangerous nation state governments are not the cause.. the private wealth manipulates them from behind.. Who is looking hard at that private wealth.. these people are not loyal to any nation state or people.. they are the greedy few..It is the greedy few that control the presidents, queens and kings and the members of parliaments and legislatures world wide this is happening.. So governments are tools in the hands of the greedy few. and the nation state system is a prison..


Posted by: bored | Oct 29 2024 10:55 utc | 8 says:
"They (Israel) can do whatever they want because they know they own the American politicians of BOTH parties."
<== yes like most governments the EZ are in control. IMO, Israel is expected to gain and keep monopoly control over all the gas and oil beneath the Ottoman Empire. They have a mandate given to them by private money interest to do whatever it takes to control drilling rights, production rights, distribution priorities, and profits to be made from anything connected to gas and oil.


Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 29 2024 12:47 utc | 28 asks: "[has] China or Russia has put any sanctions on Israel ?".. in light of what has happened since 2009 that is a $64 billion dollar question.. ??? and continuing to ask it, may in fact bring about enforceable international law..

Posted by: snake | Oct 29 2024 13:13 utc | 31

There is A LOT to say.

Not so OT...

but now .. is there a non-totalitarian side?
https://www.politico.eu/article/microsoft-slams-google-shadow-campaign-lobbying-wars-open-cloud-coalition-cispe/

Posted by: Tom | Oct 29 2024 13:13 utc | 32

'Well Izzyhell just pledged to assassinate President Assad of Syria'

@ Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 29 2024 12:16 utc | 23

I'm glad you brought that up because it's so hard to keep track of all the destruction and death that Israel is inflicting on other places. The West wants to slide over the fact that Israel has been bombing Syria and supporting extremist groups aimed at al Assad's government since 2011, as has the US.

There's an article in The Cradle this morning that is a kind of rebuttal to Israel's threat to Assad:

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/27454

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 13:13 utc | 33

Monday (October 28) is the deadline for South Africa to submit a detailed memorial against Israel to the ICJ, lawyers and diplomats told Al Jazeera. Its legal submission aims to definitively establish that Israel’s military actions in Gaza amount to genocide.

Despite new evidence emerging daily, senior South African officials instructed the legal team to stick to what they had already collected to meet the approaching deadline.

The legal team is however confident that the hundreds of pages of evidence are more than enough to sustain their case.

“The problem we have is that we have too much evidence,” Ambassador Vusimuzi Madonsela, South Africa’s representative to The Hague, explained to Al Jazeera.

Zane Dangor, the director-general of South Africa’s Department of International Relations and Cooperation, said: “The legal team will always say we need more time, there’s more facts coming. But we have to say you have to stop now. You [have] got to focus on what you have.”

more than 500-page South African legal submission aims to expose a pattern of mass casualties in Gaza, where almost 43,000 Palestinians have been killed since October 2023, which South African officials argue exceeds any proportional military response to Hamas’s attacks on October 7 last year.

It’s a textbook case of genocide,” Dangor said, adding that the “intent is clear”.

“Genocidal acts without intent can be crimes against humanity. But here, the intent is just front and centre.

“You are seeing statements from leaders, but also ordinary Israelis saying ‘kill all Gazans, even the babies’,” he said.
sels from South Africa, an international law professor, a British barrister, and numerous junior counsel and researchers.

Close to 100 people have been working on different parts of the case for the last nine months, insiders detailed.

While top government officials provided oversight, teams worked separately in drafting the document, which has been marked “Top Secret” until it is filed before the court.

Rt news is discussing it today.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 29 2024 13:14 utc | 34

I have no words this time.

I leave it all in the hands of the Universal Consciousness.


Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 29 2024 10:10 utc | 3

Two thumbs up.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 29 2024 11:05 utc | 10

Amen, brothers, amen.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 29 2024 13:16 utc | 35

RE: -B-
“What is left to say about this?*** How am I supposed to express my outrage?”

News & views related to the war in Palestine…

Posted by b on October 29, 2024 at 9:39 UTC | Permalink

***
You have. You do express your outrage.
You have provided a platform for us to express our own outrage, of which, we are ever grateful for.
No matter how ill, fatigued, down-trodden your own burdens have been, you have expressed your outrage, long suffering & provided opportunity of a voice for all who wish for expression.

Yes, you use a keyboard instead of a pitchfork. I , too, long for the old ways of surrounding the castle with pitchforks, casting out the King and his minions..but, alas, those days became these endless long suffering ones.

Your expression of outrage via this blog, will make a dent in the days to come, we may not see it’s essence in the airwaves, but it melds into that collective consciousness that Arch spoke about, and will manifest in the physical realm inevitably.

On a lighter note, keeping my pitchfork sharpened by the door, you never know when an opportunity will present itself!

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 29 2024 13:26 utc | 36

How many people are in Gaza now and how do they obtain food?

Posted by: vargas | Oct 29 2024 13:28 utc | 37

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 29 2024 11:15 utc | 12

If you want to know which countries leaders are supporting the genocide, pull up their national newspaper and see if there is a word about it in the headlines. You will find nothing from the Greeks, Germans, Swiss, China ambiguous misleading headlines from Jordan, scant coverage from UAE, Saudis, or Egypt. Remarkably, you will find coverage in French, British and the U.S. news. Turkey it is front page news all the time, everyday as it is in Iran of course.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 29 2024 13:29 utc | 38

Death toll from Israeli attack in Beit Lahiya rises to 109

Medical sources have told Al Jazeera that 115 people have been killed by Israeli attacks in Gaza since dawn.
The number includes 109 killed in the air strike on a residential building in Beit Lahiya that was hosting about 200 people.

-al jazeera live-blog.

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I seriously don't understand how members of the US congress and senate can stand themselves, supporting this abomination. What is wrong with them? Can money really buy someone's soul and morality so completely?

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 13:33 utc | 39

There is a lot of Isreali's that have been harmed and murdered to, war is ugly. With all the money US has sent to Ukraine we could have rescued the innocent Palestinians in Gaza and set them up in a refugee camp.

Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 29 2024 13:34 utc | 40

It's hard to watch as something we thought we'd left behind in the history books came back in a new form.

Genocide.

It's been instructive to watch how the West's credibility went completely down the toilet, as they do nothing, and in fact aid and abet genocide by the empire's vicious little pet.

Then there are the gutless weasels like Erdogan, Al-Sisi, and other Arab 'leaders' who have sold out their religion for the idolatry of money.

There really aren't words, anything I can muster is just cheap outrage.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 29 2024 13:40 utc | 41

[email protected]'s far more Palestinians that have died than Squatters over the past seventy years. Had all the money that was spent on the Ukraine been redirected to Occupied Palestine millions of Squatters could have been repatriated to their home countries.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 13:45 utc | 42

I found this interview with an Israeli Soldier today:

Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are Right to Resist"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkxJd88xkBU

An important thing to note is that this interview was conducted 7 years ago, and even back then, Israel was carrying out its genocidal policies. October 7 was not the cause but rather a light that brought Israel's behaviour to the attention of much of the world's population.

Posted by: Autumn | Oct 29 2024 13:47 utc | 43

RE: “With all the money US has sent to Ukraine we could have rescued the innocent Palestinians in Gaza and set them up in a refugee camp.”

Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 29 2024 13:34 utc | 40

Without the money, Palestinians found their way to making refugee camps, only to be subsequently bombed and set on fire, and the refugees murdered.

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 29 2024 13:49 utc | 44

[email protected] seriously are not paying attention. Been to Epstein Island or to one of Diddy's White Parties? They are all the on the take, compromised or extorted. Wrap your head around that. Each and every one. No big secret.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 13:49 utc | 45

Harris tells American voters (or nonvoters) against the Palestinian genocide to get over it. If they want groceries & abortions vote for her. The genocide will go on.

https://x.com/TheGreeneBJ/status/1849448814509203464

Posted by: Mary | Oct 29 2024 13:52 utc | 46

#23 re. Club of Rome

CoR aren't the only ones who want to drastically reduce world population. Some want 500M.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-georgia-guidestones/

Posted by: Matt | Oct 29 2024 13:54 utc | 47

RE: “How many people are in Gaza now and how do they obtain food?”

Posted by: vargas | Oct 29 2024 13:28 utc | 37

Do some research and answer your own lamé questions.

There is also a report issued by UN Special Rapporteur with exact areas & percentages of those starving or facing starvation that you want to visit.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 29 2024 13:56 utc | 48

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 13:33 utc | 39

In addition to our friend Sean the Leprechaun's excellent observation, keep in mind that on the Republican side of the aisle, there is hidebound ideological support for Israel as an idol above even the Constitution that they swore to uphold.

This is a betrayal of the worst sort - the kind that the founding fathers warned about. Any Congressman who puts a foreign country above their own ought to be impeached, recalled, or better yet simply arrested for treason.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 29 2024 13:59 utc | 49

The crisis in Gaza is not a proxy war between Christianity and Islam. The neighboring Muslim governments of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia are permitting the people of Gaza to be slaughtered.

Posted by: Kansas | Oct 29 2024 14:03 utc | 50

Thanks for the post and sentiment b.

A land without people. That says it all, no extra words needed.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 29 2024 14:08 utc | 51

I think we ought to be past "outrage" at this point. It is what it is and we need to move on and accept this is reality for us. History demands something new--and that "new" has to be an increase in the level of consciousness and that can start with connecting with one's own spiritual center but also need include a willingness to accept things as they are which is, for those of us who live in the West (the Empire), that the authorities are gangsters at best who want to advance to being the "Empire" of the Star Wars saga. We are well past being a "liberal" society in the Empire. Liberalism, leftism, democracy, and all the rest of it is dying or dead and Europeans are, in large part, guilty of being even more imperialist than the Washington regime and Germans are the worst of the countries involved. Because they could have put brakes on all this if they had wanted to--the other countries of Europe had and have no agency.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Oct 29 2024 14:14 utc | 52

Milions of Gaza citizens starving to death....in real time.....and the reaction of the MSM is....oh well !!

Hundreds of Gaza citizens murdered every single day in IDF airstrikes or tank fire........most in their own homes or in refugee tent cities....and the reaction of Western governments is.....oh well !!

The IDF is targeting every single Gaza civil servant for annihilation, and has reduced on civil infrastructure including sources of clean water.......no reaction from the WPO and NYT and Guardian..........

Hospital patients attacked and murdered, hospitals without medical supplies, doctors and nurses arrested and tortured by the IDF (if not murdered outright)....and the reaction of Presidents and Prime Ministers is...oh well.....

We are watching in real time a massive genocide, much like Rwanda, and world is silent. Gaza makes the Warsaw ghetto uprising look like a walk in park................

Is the ICC watching and recording...........

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 29 2024 14:14 utc | 53

vargas - 37 - UN sources estimate that at least 500 truck loads of food supply is needed every single day to kept Gaza civilians from starvation.......and remember the IDF has knocked out the clean water supply and has murdered civilian water technicians too.

As of last week less than 100 trucks per day were being allowed in by the IDF, and it has now banned the UN from importing any supplies what so ever in to Gaza. Dozens of trucks of medical supplies are needed daily to treat the tens of thousands of wounded and maimed civilians.......practically none is reaching hospitals under attack in Northern Gaza.........pure unadulterated war crimes.

The end result is slow, steady inexorable starvation of the civilian population by the demented war cabinet.........

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 29 2024 14:21 utc | 54

where are my striped pajamas

My crime is that of living
on my ancestral home
bestowed to men that hate me
by some king upon a throne

I sit here on the rubble
deep beneath my family lies
even though I know they're gone
I still hear my daughter's cries

To them we are not human.
to them we do not bleed
so they feel entitled
their hatred serves their greed

They came to steal our land
the country of our birth
they burned our fields and left us
this little patch of earth.

Even this they can't abide
so finally... it's genocide
you watched this one on tv
still it seems you do not see

Eighty years and counting
how long must we endure
with your apathy and money
our ending is assured

Where is my museum?
selective holocaust
ther've been so many Mai Lais
since humanity was lost

Posted by: ld | Oct 29 2024 14:27 utc | 55

The crisis in Gaza is not a proxy war between Christianity and Islam. The neighboring Muslim governments of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia are permitting the people of Gaza to be slaughtered.

Posted by: Kansas | Oct 29 2024 14:03 utc | 50

Pedal your propaganda elsewhere. The Saudi, Jordanian and Egyptian dictators were installed my Western powers against the interests of their people. They are agents of the West, not servants of their people. These traitors don’t support Palestine because they are more concerned about a popular uprising overthrowing their illigitimacy than they are about Palastinuans The people of those countries do not support this war, but their corrupted leaders do. To throw Syria and Iraq into that mix undermines your credibility further.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 29 2024 14:28 utc | 56

Yes, the situation is unacceptable to truly free-thinking individuals, but they (we?) are in the minority.

It is not unacceptable to our own governments and Parliaments and both rational and irrational reasons are involved.
It is not unacceptable to large numbers of our compatriots.
It is not unacceptable to the majority of non-aligned States and Governments.
It is not even unacceptable enough to the majority of Islamic States and Governments, although it may be to their populations.

You could say that in the "West", there is democratic mandate for genocide. But, let’s be honest, writing to a blog will not make much difference.

Self-interest rightly understood, means that it is considered safer to watch from a distance than to attempt intervention. This applies to individuals, groups and nations and it is a feature of the human psyche. When humans are not humanitarian, what we call civilization collapses. We are seeing just such a collapse in 2024. The last three hundred years has seen repeated waves of industrialized genocide, followed by ructions of guilt, followed by another round of genocide in a generation or so, and so on. This will probably not be the last, and maybe the last one will eventually get us all. Human nature includes the capabilities of incredible cruelty and the ability to improve efficiency each time. The ultimate outcome is obvious. Should it be delayed?

Posted by: Decorum | Oct 29 2024 14:36 utc | 57

Anyone who didn't watch the delusional mofo stumpin' for Trumpelstilkin in NY yesterday ought to take a look at what a genocidal maniac looks like in person....and he addresses a room full of 10s of thousands of like-minded genocidal maniacs. And someone here there and elsewhere think those fuckers are going to stop the killing.....they are stark raving mad.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 14:44 utc | 58

I think we all have reached this point of no words. It is absolutely clear that Israel and Zionists around the world are doing their best to erase an entire ethnic group. Not quietly, but right in your face. Not with any discretion, but laughing all the way on social media.

Many of us being raised in the west, have been told since we were very little that Israel, Zionism and really the entire Jewish people were somehow the most sensitive and most opposed to acts of wanton genocide like this.

I know everyone here likes to act cool and say oh, they knew the truth about Israel long ago, but really, I don't think anyone expected this year long and counting atrocity.

There is a sense of shock and deception one feels in watching Israel today that is breathtaking. Many at this point have no more words.

The time for action has come but there is no historic actor willing and able to stop the Zionists from gleefully murdering tens of thousands of women and children.

When all the words have been spoken to identify the problem and it's solution, the desire for action comes. And that desire, too long delayed, can make a stone of the heart.

"Force not only conquers, it convinces"

The challenge now is to remain vigilant, keep documenting and discussing every aspect of Israel's genocide. Never forgive, never forget. Don't let their impunity destroy your will to stop them. Don't let it convince you to quit on those thousands of human children that Israel humiliates and then murders every day.

Israel is a rabid dog. Don't be tempted to shut your private gate and ignore it.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 14:45 utc | 59

RE: “With all the money US has sent to Ukraine we could have rescued the innocent Palestinians in Gaza and set them up in a refugee camp.”

Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 29 2024 13:34 utc | 40

If a refugee camp is the best that a Palestinian can aspire to after three generation in them, then he/she is right to fight to the death.

Posted by: Decorum | Oct 29 2024 14:47 utc | 60

Quote: "What is left to say about this? How am I supposed to express my outrage?"

Outrage at whom:

Those committing genocide?
Those supplying materiel to commit genocide ($17 billion US military supplies in less than 1 year since October 7, 2023)
Western mainstream media?
Erdogan who supplies oil, food, steel and cement?
Arab monarchs who support the genocide?
Politicians that condone genocide?

Posted by: Fadi | Oct 29 2024 14:47 utc | 61

The West is no longer Christian, let alone Catholic. There are no Crusaders. The crisis in Gaza is not a proxy war between Christianity and Islam.

Posted by: Kansas | Oct 29 2024 14:50 utc | 62

Many on this blog rail against Egypt, SA, Jordan et. al for inaction. No West Asian country has forgotten Iraq and Libya. The assassination of Haniyeh was not only to derail any negotiation for a ceasefire but also as a warning to other leaders in West Asia (and elsewhere) that the deadly hand of IS/US/UK can reach far and wide, with no impunity or adherence to the so-called rules of war. However, one can speculate that there is considerable action on the part of the Axis of Resistance occurring behind the scenes with Iran, Russia and China. BRICS and BRICS partnerships are only a piece of the picture. Furthermore, the war of attrition that Nasrallah conceptualized as the only way to contain Israel is having its predictable consequences: Not only are there staggering outflows of capital, but thousands of small business have bankrupted. Tech companies are screaming that free flow of travel is sorely impeded and ghastly expensive since only El Al is flying between Ben Gurion and US/EU which are crucial markets. Tourism is dead for the foreseeable future. The war of attrition is bringing very effective de facto sanctions without the Axis of Resistance raising a hand. Also, Netanyahu's political base is fast eroding with the exception of the extremist settler population, to whom he is promising free waterfront condos in Gaza to keep their allegiance. All in all - a murderous house of cards, attempting to stand in what are soon to be gale force winds.

Posted by: abierno | Oct 29 2024 14:53 utc | 63

re: #39 Posted by teri:

"I seriously don't understand how members of the US congress and senate can stand themselves supporting this abomination. What is wrong with them? Can money really buy someone's soul and morality so completely?"

Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_H3qShRn0

"America is Israel's whore."

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 29 2024 14:57 utc | 64

Posted by: john | Oct 29 2024 11:28 utc | 13

Amen.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 29 2024 15:00 utc | 65

sean the leprechaun @ 45

You are on the right track, not there yet. Yes, some are compromised, extorted, blackmailed and bribed. Most simply enjoy it. The reson to go to a Diddy party or to Epstein island is to rape and kill children. And enjoy it. These people are sadists. They are not pursuing malign policies out of stupidity or inadvertence. They are not merely greedy and willing to walk over you and I to get what they want.
They are sadists. They enjoy causing pain. Genocide is an even bigger thrill than killing a child with sex play. This is how they have fun.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 29 2024 15:04 utc | 66

Thanks for the posting b

You wrote
"
What is left to say about this? How am I supposed to express my outrage?
"

You do it every moment by providing this platform for others to express their outrage in textual white noise against the God Of Mammon cult that rules our world.

Hi Pope Frank and King Chuck!

I consider you two to be titular leaders of the God Of Mammon cult.

Pope Frank is a Jesuit which is like electing the head of the CIA to be US president. Pope Frank is over the largest religious organization in the world that we know nothing about its finances other than it has had a bank supporting usury since the 1300s. Maybe Pope Frank can tell us the role of the Catholic Church in instantiating and maintaining the Jesus control myth over these past centuries instead of supporting all of the worlds nations in equal development.

King Chuck is just the current inherited leader of the UK jackboot commonwealth who gets his marching orders from The City.

These are the folks that we need surrender from to continue with our process of remaking our form of social organization sausage and end this genocide.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 29 2024 15:09 utc | 67

Posted by: Fadi | Oct 29 2024 14:47 utc | 61

We should stop using Turkey’s legitimate economic interests as a scapegoat; there is massive unemployment and currency devaluation there. Turkey is not supplying weapons and not blocking international efforts to stop Israel like, the Saudis, UAE, Egypt and Jordan, which are hardly ever condemn, relative to the amount of support they directly provide Israel and the U.S.. I challenge you to name one political leader in the Sunni world that has made more of an effort to bring international condemnation to the genocide. I am not suggesting there isn’t legitimate criticisms to be made about Turkeys policies in Palestine, but relative to 90% of the Arab and Western countries, they have been saints on this issue.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 29 2024 15:09 utc | 68

Went back to rewatch the Vance Speech For Genocide.....said to the wife as we caught the Dima red eye "wanna hear a crazy person stump for more death", I did catch the second time around though that Judge Nap called him, Vance, a mad man, guess the Judge must be polite PC BS is everywhere.

I was shocked to learn that Palestinians teach their children from age two to want to kill Americans (ass hole doesn't even know which part of the Americas he's from). Those were this Mad Man's exact words.

How anyone can come here to MOA and plug this party or that in the USA and then look themselves in the mirror....oy, fucking, vey!!!!!

And US citizens that come here or plug gobb shite on other blogs, y'all should hang your heads in fucking shame......go watch that vid. Infuckingsanity!!!!

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 15:20 utc | 69

israel is a rogue nation at this point... the fact the usa-uk support them unconditionally also says a lot... we are essentially in a rogue world at this point..

Posted by: james | Oct 29 2024 15:20 utc | 70

@ sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 15:20 utc | 69

canucks and europeans ain't much different sean... such as it is... we are all in this together..

Posted by: james | Oct 29 2024 15:22 utc | 71

b, imho that speech deserves to be highlighted and discussed in and of itself......then spread far, very far and wide.

The one upside, a bit of a phew moment, from the audience reaction, while a few here and there applauded, the majority were a bit.....hmm, squirmy.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 15:26 utc | 72

I'm glad you brought that up because it's so hard to keep track of all the destruction and death that Israel is inflicting on other places. The West wants to slide over the fact that Israel has been bombing Syria and supporting extremist groups aimed at al Assad's government since 2011, as has the US.

There's an article in The Cradle this morning that is a kind of rebuttal to Israel's threat to Assad:

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/27454

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 13:13 utc | 33

I was in Aleppo in 2009. near my hotel was an old, old Catholic Church . A young priest led me around the smallish but elegant church-it was financed/built by Theodosius the Great in 390 AD.

The Priest proudly asserted that mass had been celebrated there for 84,000 consecutive Sundays.

In 2013 I saw on a CNN report where the church had been bombed as was no more.

All the tumult in 1,600 odd years and it was the ugly Americans, through their puppet ISIS whom burnt down, the old, beautiful church.

Bastards!!

Posted by: canuck | Oct 29 2024 15:26 utc | 73

King Chuck is just the current inherited leader of the UK jackboot commonwealth who gets his marching orders from The City.

These are the folks that we need surrender from to continue with our process of remaking our form of social organization sausage and end this genocide.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 29 2024 15:09 utc | 67

You hit the nail right on its proverbial head!

Posted by: canuck | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 74


https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1848007903783059730
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs

In Gaza, the collective shame of the century continues unabated and unstopped, in defiance of every norm of international law and morale. The Palestinians, exhausted by relentless attacks on their bodies and souls are abandoned to their tormentors. Shocking images of summary executions, mass forced displacements, and other egregious abuses strike us, leaving us stunned and bewildered, unable to comprehend that what is happening in Gaza is truly real.

What a disgraceful testament to our global failure to protect basic human rights. The United Nations, once a believed beacon of hope and a force for peace, are crumbling under the weight of this shame - and the pressure of the inaction or complicity of its most powerful member states.


https://x.com/pchrgaza/status/1847963308202025067
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights - PCHR @pchrgaza

🚨Live-streamed ethnic cleansing: Israeli occupation forces are forcing residents of northern #Gaza Strip to leave their homes and shelters and is carrying out mass arrests of Palestinian civilians.

♦️We have been for weeks warning of Israel’s Generals’ Plan, which is being currently executed for the 16th consecutive day. The plan is aimed at emptying northern Gaza Strip by imposing a strict siege and exterminating and starving the population to force them to leave southwards


Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 75

sean the orangeman:

The carnage was escalated on the watch of your “team”, you foul dembot. Trump probably won’t try to stop the genocide, but it will still be worth it to see your slimey little TDS-damaged heads explode when he wins.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 76

Posted by: james | Oct 29 2024 15:20 utc | 70

#########

Germany is also a big supporter, although I feel silly mentioning the vassals as though they have any agency.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 29 2024 15:30 utc | 77

@ lovedonbass 77 - yes, unfortunately that is true too... i can't figure out the germans.. it is worse then trying to figure out sean!

Posted by: james | Oct 29 2024 15:38 utc | 78

With all the money US has sent to Ukraine we could have rescued the innocent Palestinians in Gaza and set them up in a refugee camp.

Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 29 2024 13:34 utc | 40

The Palestinians were already living in a refugee camp -- that's what Gaza is. Although, with increasing restrictions imposed by the Israelis, it had become a concentration camp or open-air prison. It is surrounded by walls, fences, barbed wire, and armed watchtowers. No one goes in or out without permission of the Israelis. The Palestinian action on October 7th was an organized break-out from that prison. And the reason that Hamas organized that break-out was to disrupt a pending agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia that would have politically isolated the Palestinians, probably forever. Now, however, although tens of thousands of innocents are being slaughtered by the Israelis, the situation of the Palestinians is finally being broadcast to the world. And there is no way for Israel to hide it.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 29 2024 15:44 utc | 79

RE: Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 14:45 utc | 59

All very well stated. Thx.
Onward we go…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 29 2024 15:45 utc | 80

meanwhile back at the genocide ranch


https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1851009045697634446
sarah @sahouraxo

BREAKING:
Israel has just committed a barbaric massacre in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley.

At least 60 innocents murdered, and many more are still trapped under the rubble.

This is an American-funded, American-aided genocide.


https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1851255316316397647
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi

So far, 93 Palestinians bodies have been recovered, and 40 bodies are still missing after the Israeli massacre in Beit Lahiya last night.

The Western media is silent.
#GazaHolocaust


https://x.com/araghchi/status/1851258726789116226
Seyed Abbas Araghchi @araghchi

Mr. @JosepBorrellF:

I like to believe you when you say life and human dignity should be protected. The issue is that your fellow Europeans unashamedly support genocide in Gaza and carnage in Lebanon.

How about "an EU measure" to end the killing of more than 50k Palestinians in Gaza? How about "an EU measure" to allow 1.5m refugees in Lebanon to return to their homes? How about "an EU measure" to support the families of those killed by Jamshid Sharmahd? If not, Europe only stands for hypocrisy.


Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 29 2024 15:46 utc | 81

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 76

#############

Partisan politics? You can do better.

Newsflash, America is the most immoral and violent country on the planet, and no one is a close second.

Both American parties own decades of genocide in West Asia. Palestine, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen, Libya, among many others.

Trump is an unrepentant and committed Zionist.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 29 2024 15:48 utc | 82

Further to my comment @49, if the Republicans are the hidebound ideological stooges of Zionism, then the Democrats are their cousins. Only Rashida Tlaib has done anything to voice opposition to the policy of the US Government in sending bombs, arms, and money in support of the genocidal Netanyahu regime.

Sanders, AOC ... crickets chirping. Either one of them could introduce a bill barring any further lethal aid to Israel, but they won't. That makes them just as bad as the Rethuglicans, as Sean might call them.

In fact, you can make an argument that the Dems are worse, because at least the GOP numbskulls actually believe they're own ideological swill. The Progressive wing of the Dems knows better, but still does nothing. That's cowardice on top of moral bankruptcy.

... and don't even start with the Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosis who hold the real power, they're just as corrupt and venal as "Bibi's bitch" McConnell and Lindsay "Kill 'em all" Graham.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 29 2024 15:51 utc | 83

"Israel is a rabid dog. Don't be tempted to shut your private gate and ignore it."
@Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 14:45 utc | 59

Of course Israel is like that. But the anglosaxons meant it to be!
Because that stooge's impossible behaviour is the guarantor for them to have to remain closely tied to the only actor who wants them to be like that.
So while I usually agree with the denouncement's about Israel, that does in no way relieve the anglosaxons for being the creators AND UPHOLDERS of the whole arrangement. Thus to observe the stooge's behaviour and to correctly report it doesn't mean we ought to accept the narratives being spawned by the otherwise humane grassroots since they are covering for the responsible upper classes. Thus the whole anglosaxon culture needs to be reminded of their responsibility, and we ought not to let them off the hook by pretending that Israel is an independent operator.
Further the City is a utility that is precious to those upper classes.
It furnishes them with their income and influence.
The City's staff is not free to have this access to have economic influence unless they do what is expected in the imperial setting. To enable the oligarchy to dominate the world.
I understand that the grassroots here are used to not having to answer to that kind of critique but I think it would be an improvement if they began to consider it.
And being a citizen in one of the russophobic countries in the EU, I dont see us in a very positive light either. I am rather ashamed of Swedens behaviour.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 29 2024 16:02 utc | 84

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 76

#############

Partisan politics? You can do better.

Newsflash, America is the most immoral and violent country on the planet, and no one is a close second.

Both American parties own decades of genocide in West Asia. Palestine, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen, Libya, among many others.

Trump is an unrepentant and committed Zionist.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 29 2024 15:48 utc | 82

Granted, but just look at that nasty leprechaun's deranged misanthropy. He screams at the slaves for the crimes of the master. He really is a piece of shit.

Fuck you, Sean you fake Irish faggot! The vast majority of the population is opposed to Imperialist war. It will never hang it's head in shame as you and our blood soaked ruling class so desperately wish!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 16:04 utc | 85

Might be useful:

https://embassy-finder.com/israel_embassies

Posted by: Matt | Oct 29 2024 16:06 utc | 86

And US citizens that come here or plug gobb shite on other blogs, y'all should hang your heads in fucking shame......go watch that vid. Infuckingsanity!!!!

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 15:20 utc | 69

In the name of every wage slave that opposes the genocide and Imperialism in the US: fuck yourself, you ruling class cuck! Go kiss mastas ass, you traitor.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 16:06 utc | 87

It is long past time for the criminal Zionist entity to be internationally isolated. This needs to be more than just the kind of tut-tuting and finger waving that is now going on. Those folks don´t give a shit whether anybody likes them or not. Ambasadors need to be withdrawn, embassies closed, membership in the UN terminated, all commerce and trade stopped. Not as good as bombing Tel Aviv and hunting down Netenyaoo and his cronies like dogs, but it will do. It comes down to a question of ¨Well, what are you going to do about it?¨ So far, nothing.

Posted by: c | Oct 29 2024 16:16 utc | 88

[email protected], I take it you are one of those US citizens. You come here whining at me when US citizens are more responsible for the mess, yeah pass your fake dollars.

Cheers M

....I grew up under colonialism. You ought to try it. I moved to another Colonial country, controlled by the same Colonialists. You ought to try it. Lucky for me, the Colonialists in this country where busy segregating the natives unlucky for them. You dont know me

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 16:19 utc | 89

"Fuck you, Sean you fake Irish faggot! The vast majority of the population is opposed to Imperialist war. It will never hang it's head in shame as you and our blood soaked ruling class so desperately wish!"

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 29 2024 16:04 utc | 85

Ahenobarbus you are too talented, sophisticated to let your emotions rule your well honed reason and descend into profane name calling..

Combat 'Sean', sure- but kindly please do it in a civilized fashion.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 29 2024 16:20 utc | 90

"Trump probably won’t try to stop the genocide,"

Trump us bought & paid for by Zionest Adelson. If he gets us out if Ukr, he'll triple down on the slaughter of the Palestinian people.

"but it will still be worth it to see your slimey little TDS-damaged heads explode when he wins.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 29 2024 15:28 utc | 76"

If by "wins" you mean is "Chosen" then, sure he'll win.

His biggest advantage over Harris is that the dems are more likely to riot when they lose than GOP.

Why? Recently chatted with a local store owner. He just got a letter from insurance coming letting him know his home won"t be covered in a civil war.

Multiply that threat by millions of homeowners at ground zero who stand to become street people.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 29 2024 16:22 utc | 91

How many people are in Gaza now and how do they obtain food?

Posted by: vargas | Oct 29 2024 13:28 utc | 37

1. God/Allah only knows.

2. Tunnels. Russia has quietly sent humanitarian aid.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 29 2024 16:25 utc | 92

Genocide as Colonial Erasure (w/ Francesca Albanese) | The Chris Hedges Report

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aOfDPD9mxv4

Francesca Albanese is United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, Francesca Albanese, discuss her new report for the UN with Chris Hedges.

It includes Domicide, Urbacide, Scholasticide, medicide, cultural genocide and ecoside.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 29 2024 16:26 utc | 93

The Zionist state that's committing genocide IS above International Law - how else could it get away with what its getting away with - its backed by the likes of the US, UK Germany etc - oh the UN and ICJ, might talk a good game but that's it.

As I've said on a few occasions the only way the Zionists genocide will be stopped is by force.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 29 2024 16:27 utc | 94

TEHRAN, Oct. 22 (MNA) – A sharp rise in Israeli settlers' migration to Cyprus has sparked concerns, with many seeking to purchase properties, home and land, as settlers are leaving occupied territories en masse amid fallout of Israeli war in Gaza

I hope they stay there...

Posted by: Virgile | Oct 29 2024 16:28 utc | 95

Crooke said on Napolitano, yesterday, that the Iran attack failed due to a "an unexpected radar".
My own reaction on Saturday, upon hearing the reports that "only" 4 Iranian soldiers were killed, is that this is a nothin

gburger. So much a nothingburger that I thought maybe this initial attack was a spotlighting attack - a feint to get Iran to turn on its radars so they could be identified for a follow-on strike.

But it has been many days now and nothing; that combined with Crooke's commentary reinforces my "nothingburger" view.

Equally, it is quite clear that Hezbollah is anything but pacified - they are still firing double digit to low triple digit rocket attacks on Israel every day.

And then there's Gaza - not pacified, not depopulated (yet). The savagery grows, somehow.

The million dollar question is: what will Israel do now?
The clock is literally ticking on the Israel economy.
The IDF has to be at the point where it has overcommitted.

If Iran really has radars, Russian or otherwise, that can detect stealth F35 attackers - then only the US can have any chance of neutralizing Iranian air defense.
A US direct attack on Iran would mean open war and a Persian Gulf shutdown for sure since it would be American surface and submarine launched Tomahawks, in waves of hundreds, that would be needed to do the job.

Is even addled Biden that idiotic/insane?

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 29 2024 16:32 utc | 96

@87....I get the frustration, I'm not a US citizens btw, but I get it. Went out to the west coast to visit a friend, dyed in the wool Canuck. I'm scrambling eggs he's in the living room laughing his ass off at the night befores Colbert show. I haven't watched tv since Trumps last kick at the can. Leprechaunitous got the better of me and I went in to watch and share the laughs, at Trump's expense, looked at my friend, forget what I said, but he replied that he doesn't have time to check to "news" so he gets his daily news round up from......and this is so cringe worthy part.....Colbert. OMFG!! I mentioned Colbert was a comedy entertainment show.....he said to me "chastisement taken" OMFG.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 16:38 utc | 97

What is left to say about this? How am I supposed to express my outrage?
The UN created and legitimized Israel, which is now attacking its creator. The world needs to hand back Palestine to its people. The Zionists must leave.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 29 2024 16:42 utc | 98


https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1850977598291239348
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber

South Africa has filed its memorial (main case +evidence) in the genocide case against Israel in the ICJ, setting out the detailed case in 750 pages, with 4,000 pages of Annexes. Another historic milestone in the struggle to end Israeli impunity.


https://dirco.gov.za/south-africa-delivers-evidence-of-israel-genocide-to-icj/
South Africa delivers evidence of Israel genocide to ICJ

South Africa has filed its Memorial to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) today, 28 October 2024, in its case on the Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa vs. Israel).

In accordance with the Rules of Court, the Memorial may not be made public. The filing of this memorial takes place at a time when Israel is intensifying the killing of civilians in Gaza and now seems intent to follow a similar path of destruction in Lebanon. The action taken by South Africa since December 2023, culminating in the filing of this Memorial has generated overwhelming national and international interest.

The Memorial – the name for the document recording the main case of South Africa against Israel – contains evidence which shows how the government of Israel has violated the genocide convention by promoting the destruction of Palestinians living in Gaza, physically killing them with an assortment of destructive weapons, depriving them access to humanitarian assistance, causing conditions of life which are aimed at their physical destruction and ignoring and defying several provisional measures of the International Court of Justice, and using starvation as a weapon of war and to further Israel’s aims to depopulate Gaza through mass death and forced displacement of Palestinians.

The evidence will show that undergirding Israel’s genocidal acts is the special intent to commit genocide, a failure by Israel to prevent incitement to genocide, to prevent genocide itself and its failure to punish those inciting and committing acts of genocide.

The evidence is detailed in over 750 pages of text, supported by exhibits and annexes of over 4 000 pages. South Africa’s Memorial is a reminder to the global community to remember the people of Palestine, to stand in solidarity with them and to stop the catastrophe. The devastation and suffering have been possible only because despite the ICJ and numerous UN bodies’ actions and interventions, Israel has failed to comply with its international obligations....

....Israel has been granted unprecedented impunity to breach international law and norms for as long as the UN Charter has been in existence. Israel’s continued shredding of international law has imperilled the institutions of global governance that were established to hold all states accountable....

....The international community cannot stand idly by while innocent civilians – including women, children, hospital workers, humanitarian aid workers and journalists, are killed for simply being. That is a world we cannot accept.

South Africa’s case at the International Court of Justice is a comprehensive presentation of the overwhelming evidence of genocide in Gaza.


Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 29 2024 16:42 utc | 99

'Been to Epstein Island or to one of Diddy's White Parties?'
sean the leprechaun | Oct 29 2024 13:49 utc | 45

Well, no, no, can't say that I have. No wonder I don't know nothin'.

Posted by: teri | Oct 29 2024 16:47 utc | 100

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