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October 20, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-252

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Traitors brought down the whole Soviet Union. I suspect at least some Marxists were left just before the collapse.
Also, people would have more respect for you if you would stop threatening to kick their ass.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 20 2024 23:08 utc | 148
You’re confusing a strategic defeat with an ideological defeat, and I wasn’t threatening to physically assault anybody. What I was saying, though, is that the very worst opponent a post modern fake leftie could possibly face is a real Marxist, because we know exactly how they are perverting the ideas behind Socialism and we are able to call them out on it. I could write a whole series of lectures on it, if I didn’t consider myself too ideologically feeble for it.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 17:36 utc | 301

US envoy Hochstein is back in Lebanon with the explicit purpose of imposing UNSC1701 or, more to the point, imposing a peculiar interpretation of 1701 which enforces all limitation on Hezbollah and removes all obligation from Israel. This follows statements by US ambassador to Lebanon which anticipate the entire dismantling of Hezbollah both militarily and politically. The United States and Israel intend to revert Lebanon back to the 1980s with a sectarian Israel-friendly military dictatorship running the country. A “ceasefire”, or rather a temporary halt to Israel’s air strikes against Lebanese soft targets, is being offered in return.
IDF press releases claim Hezbollah has already been militarily defeated – all fighters dead, missile stocks depleted. Resistance press releases say otherwise and Israel media, even under censorship, says otherwise.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 21 2024 17:37 utc | 302

Al Manar live feed for prior 20 hours:
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20:06 Two Civilians Martyred in Israeli Aggression Targeting a Car at Al-Mazzeh, Damascus More..
19:39 Israeli media: Sirens sounded in Al-Manara, Galilee Panhandle
17:58 Iraq’s Islamic Resistance Launches New Attack in Support of Lebanon and Palestine More..
17:07 Hezbollah air defenses launch surface-to-air missiles at Israeli war jets carrying out mock raids over Zahrani area, forcing them to leave Lebanese airspace: statement
17:02 Islamic Resistance fires salvos of rockets at gatherings of Israeli occupation soldiers in Zarit and Shomera settlements: statements
16:22 Israeli strike on the southern town of Al-Kharayeb kills four people, injures four others: Al-Manar reporter
16:21 Al-Manar correspondent reports several Israeli strikes on several areas across Bekaa including Shaath, Drous, Tarayya, Shmistar and Boudai
16:04 Berri to Hochstein: No Changes to 1701, No Presidential Elections Under Fire More..
15:19 Israeli Killing Machine Continues on Day 29 of Aggression on Lebanon More..
14:41 Hezbollah fighters prevent Israeli soldiers from evacuating troops injured by previous attack near the Lebanese border town of Markaba
13:31 Israeli media: Casualties as rockets fired from Lebanon land in Ayelet HaShahar
12:56 Sirens sound in Nahariya, Acre, Haifa and Krayot: Israeli media
12:55 Israeli media reports Hezbollah ballistic missile was fired from Lebanon at northern ‘Israel’
12:12 Israeli media: Sirens sound in Ramot Naftali in Upper Galilee
12:11 Sirens sound in Misgav Am and Metula in Galilee Panhandle: Israeli media
11:54 Israeli media: Hezbollah is not on a downward trajectory and we observe its achievements
10:44 Hezbollah Downs Israeli Hermes 900, Repels Hostile Aircraft, Strikes Enemy Gatherings and Sites More..
09:58 Israeli artillery shells towns of Taybe and Khiam: Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon
09:52 Ziv Medical Center says received 15 Israeli soldiers who were evacuated from scene of the battles at Lebanon border
08:57 Israeli media: Rocket sirens sound in Galilee

Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:39 utc | 303

he idea of the October 7 attack was the worst miscalculation of the century, in addition to being a crime in its own right, which is too soon forgotten by Israel’s sworn enemies
Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 17:06 utc | 295

The 7 October Uprising was the most glorious expression of the human spirit in it’s right to be free ever seen since the Tet Offensive.

It will ring on through the centuries as an example of what can be accomplished through the strength of human will alone.

The attack itself was an unparalleled exercise in tactical brilliance, unmatched by anything ever attempted by Israel or it’s western lackeys.

It was a masterpiece.

Regarding its strategic outcomes, it seems to have rocked the entire Zionist Empire on to its heels – a position from which it is unlikely ever to recover.

There is only one inexorable outcome that can result from the 7 October Uprising – the destruction of the notion of a Jewish Zionist State run by European Zealots on Arab lands.

It’s all downhill from here for the colonizers and 7 October was the boot in the arse of Zionist Jewry that got the ball rolling.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 17:40 utc | 304

‘Flagrant Violation’ – Israel Demolishes UNIFIL Observation Tower in Southern Lebanon
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/flagrant-violation-israel-demolishes-unifil-observation-tower-in-southern-lebanon/

Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:46 utc | 305

‘Due to Urgent Need’ – In First, Israeli Army Outsources Repair of Tanks Damaged in Gaza
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/due-to-urgent-need-in-first-israeli-army-outsources-repair-of-tanks-damaged-in-gaza/
For the record:
Merkava Tally since 2.Oct 2023
236 destroyed
679 approx damaged

Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:49 utc | 306

“I think a full strength IDF armor division has 300 Merkavas. We’ll see how many the 91st loses over the next couple of days.
Barflies – anyone want to make a guess ?”
Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:14 utc | 299
So it sounds like they have about 1200 tanks or more up north. I last heard they had four divisions positioned.
My guess is 43 before they reconsider their options.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 17:49 utc | 307

But Hamas has confirmed he is dead. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/18/hamas-confirms-leader-yahya-sinwar-killed-in-combat-in-gaza-by-israeli-army
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:19 utc | 118
Would that be a good way to keep him safe?
Posted by: Greg | Oct 21 2024 2:29 utc | 169
Wouldn’t faking martyrdom be sacrilege?

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 17:50 utc | 308

‘Flagrant Violation’ – Israel Demolishes UNIFIL Observation Tower in Southern Lebanon
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/flagrant-violation-israel-demolishes-unifil-observation-tower-in-southern-lebanon/
Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:46 utc | 306
Rabid dogs that must be shot.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 17:53 utc | 309

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:09 utc | 258 “killed Sinwar “by accident”.”
Possible, but..
How many of his original inner circle are left? Mahmoud Hamdan was killed along with Sinwar. I haven’t seen the names of the other two that made up the four that were spotted. So for certain, two of Hamas’s top leaders in Gaza were out on the streets all but alone.
Maybe someone who ended up in his inner circle or inner circle adjacent after the original members were killed?
In the past, reading between the lines, it also looks like some Gaza residents have said things, either inadvertently or on purpose that led the IDF to one target or another.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 21 2024 18:04 utc | 310

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:09 utc | 112
Isreal is just a proxy of monopoly capital of the west. Death to the Anglo American empire is the correct solution.
Posted by: Badjoke | Oct 20 2024 23:21 utc | 153
I agree that the United States must be destroyed but I think it’s wrong to equate “monopoly Capital” with “Western.” We’re not dealing with Western monopoly Capital here but rather with global Capital.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 18:08 utc | 311

Has anyone any rational explanation for why the Lebanese Army seems to be in a coma?

Posted by: Arch Bungle – 296
In the 1960’s there was an Arab inside joke about the Lebanese army: What are the four mandatory items in every Lebanese soldiers kit? A comb, a tube of hair cream, a bottle of cologne, and a compact mirror.

Posted by: Jaqueson | Oct 21 2024 18:08 utc | 312

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:09 utc | 258
It was exactly what you say – it was not accidental – meeting Sinwar on the street.. The lie was put out straight away, to deflect from the truth. How they got the info where he was, is still matter of speculation, it is possible or likely that they extracted it through torture.
It keep me awake at night to think of the ways the Israelis inflict pain, to torture and kill others who stand in their way. Of their perfidy. The Heart of Darkness comes to mind “O Horror”.

Posted by: fanto | Oct 21 2024 18:10 utc | 313

Actually I think I may be wrong here so strike that. It’s clear that the United States is the Imperialist superpower. The current conflict stems from the US against other Capitalist centers such as Russia and China.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 18:12 utc | 314

Isreal is just a proxy of monopoly capital of the west. Death to the Anglo American empire is the correct solution.
Posted by: Badjoke | Oct 20 2024 23:21 utc | 153
Anyway if we are discussing this then I have to go back to the two excellent articles by Diana Johnstone.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/03/06/the-myth-of-israel-as-us-aircraft-carrier-in-middle-east/
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/03/12/the-debate-over-israel-as-us-aircraft-carrier/

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 18:21 utc | 315

Hm, long time, no posts ? 😉
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 21 2024 16:03 utc | 285

I do recall my last posts were around three to four years ago during the first months of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict; though then I decided to keep my thoughts to myself and read the posts here for a while, then left as I had other things on my mind.
Though now the Israeli madness has caught my attention for many reasons and I remembered this site existed. It’s difficult to acquire information, let alone know to trust anything that I read, but the occasional discussion/banter I spot helps somewhat. Even between Israeli posters.
Still, I don’t foresee myself posting much – before, the situation didn’t seem to be leading in a ‘certain direction’, but now given which party is backed by who, and what they all do, I’ve got to wonder whether my worries are not justified.
This is about as much as I could say without going off-topic – once more, for the time being I wonder about what will become of the warzone after the election, given the Israelis need a scapegoat to hide behind.
Putting the rabid dog down by force may incur severe repercussions, and so is letting it be as it’ll only grow more mad. But a decision has to be made, eventually.

Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 18:32 utc | 316

313 – The Lebanese army was probably the weakest of the Arab state armies in the 1948 war, it was almost non-existent when US Marines (one of them the future actor Hervey Keitel) landed in the country, and it pretty much disintegrated along religious lines in the 1975-6 civil war. Never much of a force.

Posted by: Waldorf | Oct 21 2024 18:35 utc | 317

1,200 IDF “Tanks” on Lebanese Border ?
Suspect that includes all manner of armored vehicles. Main Battle Tanks ( Merkavas ) are likely under 600 units assembled for invasion. TBD
My wild guess is the IDF loses 1/3 of its MBTs attempting a big arrow invasion

Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 18:49 utc | 318

Zero Hedge article:
Seven Israelis Accused Of Giving Info To Iran On Targeted IDF Bases

Posted by: Carl | Oct 21 2024 18:50 utc | 319

Oh and by the way, @Ed, I could have respected you if you didn’t tell me I wasn’t a Marxist, I wasn’t a worker and I was a CIA troll.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 18:53 utc | 320

Gaza/Lebanon War Day 380/34 Sitrep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYYiJsSMd4
“Israeli Air Force vs Lebanon Credit Union…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 19:04 utc | 321

“The loyal son of the land, Youssef Abu Rabie, ascended this afternoon, faithful to his positions and ideas. He planted the barren land and revived the barren soul. He plowed, sowed, watered, bore fruit and prospered. When the time of testing came, he dyed the fertile land that never ages with his blood.
Peace be upon you, the beautiful Youssef, the one with the kohl-lined eyes, the beautiful heart and smile. You will remain in our hearts a tender flower that never withers.”
Journalist Youssef Fares
https://t.me/youseffares19/55550

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 21 2024 19:07 utc | 322

Oh and by the way, @Ed, I could have respected you if you didn’t tell me I wasn’t a Marxist, I wasn’t a worker and I was a CIA troll.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 18:53 utc | 321
But you are one of the unfortunate who think consuming alcohol is some kind of desirable activity.

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 19:22 utc | 323

UN says urgent request to allow access to Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza to help rescue people trapped under the rubble has been denied by Israel for the fourth consecutive day. A separate request to deliver food, water and fuel was also denied by Israel
https://x.com/elizondogabriel/status/1848403818511208550?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1848403818511208550%7Ctwgr%5E6017512346a63afc74f96f8fb8639b6e30c1494f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2Fliveblog%2F2024%2F10%2F21%2Flive-israel-destroying-north-gaza-through-death-and-displacement-un-says
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Six men have been killed by Israeli forces as they tried to get drinking water in northern Gaza’s Jabalia refugee camp, the main focus of a 17-day ground invasion that’s killed at least 460 people and cut off food, water and medicine.
Four other Palestinians, including two women, were killed in a strike on an area sheltering displaced people in Jabalia, the Health Ministry’s emergency service said. Another three people died in an attack on a school-turned-shelter in Beit Hanoon, a northeastern city near the boundary with Israel.
Dr Hossam Abu Safiyya, director of the nearby Kamal Adwan Hospital, said it’s overwhelmed with wounded people and patients.
Aj live-blog
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Hamas claims killing and wounding of Israeli soldiers in Jabalia
The armed wing of Hamas says its fighters ambushed four Israeli vehicles loaded with explosives in the Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza.
A tank, an armoured personnel carrier, and two D9 bulldozers were in the convoy, which was hit by Yassin-105 rockets and a Shawaz explosive device, a post on Telegram said.
The military equipment was blown up, killing and wounding an unidentified number of soldiers.
Israel has been carrying out a large-scale ground incursion in the area, destroying residential buildings and conducting mass arrests. Both Israel’s army and Palestinian armed groups report heavy fighting.
-AJ live-blog
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Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 19:23 utc | 324

Who Said Americans Have No Dark Sense of Humor?
https://x.com/marwanbishara/status/1848335311559893053
“Secretary of State Antony J [‘I come as a Jew’] Blinken is expected to depart on Monday in a regional effort to bring calm to the region’. Hilarious.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 19:24 utc | 325

Re: “Has anyone any rational explanation for why the Lebanese Army seems to be in a coma?”
Posted by: Arch Bungle – 296
Nothing rational, and maybe not even helpful, but it’s difficult to know who is even funding the “army”. Lebanon thru various machinations has been militarily hamstrung. No Air Force to speak of or Navy. Syria, Lebanon & Libya were French plunders in the colonial divide, and France slowly got squeezed out, but still seems to have some influence, and the US and France have power struggles there as well.
From what I’ve gathered, at least since 2006, there’s been an unwritten rule between Hezbollah & the “army” to stay out of southern Lebanon, much of it having to do with 1701.
The real deal of 1701 was Israel withdraw all occupiers from Sheeba Farms/So. Lebanon, Hezbollah would leave South, Army would take control.
Some years ago the land leases of Sheeba Farms expired, and Israel was trying to get them renewed, and Lebanon said no. But Israelis currently squat and stayed anyways, so Hezbollah stayed, and the army stayed away.
I also understand there are a lot of Hezbollah or Southern Lebanese in the official army. So, the official state army is quite infiltrated with Hezbollah (very wise move).
So far, “Berri” is sticking to his guns regarding the “demands” of Israel.
I do think if when the raids expand further North, more of their “military” power will show. But, they’re like Egypt these days, a glorified police force that gets paid to not protect anyone. But with a divided council, no official “President”, I’m not even sure who would have the power to actually authorize the army to strike, defend or how the “orders” for the army are even processed? I suppose Berri, but guessing his “powers” according to constitution are limited.
Example in same article of vying US/France influence & differences, subtle, but there:
“The United States, the international community, and the people in the region need to know that this time around the ceasefire will hold and that there is not going to be another round of conflict in the coming months or years, he said.
French President Emmanuel Macron, in a phone call with Netanyahu on Monday, requested that Israel protect civilians and infrastructure in Lebanon, and bring about a ceasefire as soon as possible. He also denounced the attacks on UNIFIL bases, and expressed his desire to allow the forces to fulfill their role in southern Lebanon.”
Then Arab League:
Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit said on Monday in Beirut that the league’s priority was to achieve an immediate ceasefire in Lebanon, and he called for Israel’s prompt withdrawal from any Lebanese territories it has occupied or entered.
Lebanon’s Berri made an interesting statement after rejecting US Amos Hochstein threats:
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/10/us-envoy-hochstein-says-1701-not-enough-end-israel-war-lebanon
“Berri stressed that while there is consensus on the resolution among Lebanese parties, he refuses any amendments to it. “I have a plan to save Lebanon,” he said, without revealing more details.”
Other highlights:
In similar comments to Al-Arabiya on Sunday, Mikati also affirmed his country’s commitment to Resolution 1701, which he said can achieve “long-term stability” on the border.
“Hezbollah agreed to implement Resolution 1701, and what is **also required is to stop the *Israeli aggression and the *ongoing violations **since the issuance of the resolution, by land, sea and air,” he added.”
There are not going to willy nilly agree to anything outside the UNSC passed and lawful 1701 (didn’t say right, just said lawful). When Israel leaves Sheeba and So Lebanon, Hezbollah will leave.
Israel never will except by force. So…
Anyways, obviously the army isn’t getting any orders. But they may have to run down and help the UNIFIL folks get to a hospital.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 21 2024 19:25 utc | 326

But you are one of the unfortunate who think consuming alcohol is some kind of desirable activity.
Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 19:22 utc | 324
Non sequitur. You are not allowed to judge me for what I choose as medication.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:29 utc | 327

An RAF Typhoon from Akrotiri just “went dark” near the Syrian border, flying in Turkish airspace ENE of Iskenderun. As chance would have it, a KC2 tanker is flying just north or the Syrian border, heading east.
That’s just gone dark as well.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zz338#37a58d2d

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 21 2024 19:41 utc | 328

It must be bad, media has gone total blackout mode. Already pretending it didn’t happen while it is happening.
I feel like all I can do is wish peace for their souls. This. Is. So. Fucked.

Posted by: Rae | Oct 21 2024 19:42 utc | 329

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unifil-vows-stay-lebanon-despite-several-deliberate-israeli-attacks-2024-10-18/
Reuters showing which side they’re on. Meaning, the side of the Jewish cocksuckers.
“The U.N. peacekeeping mission in Lebanon said on Friday it had come under several “deliberate” attacks by Israeli forces in recent days ”
Note the quotation marks. Absolute fucking bastards.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:47 utc | 330

It is very difficult to ascertain Israel’s actual war front status owing to the exceptional levels of military censorship, to say nothing of the outright murder of journalists in Gaza, Lebanon, West Bank and even in Israel itself. Also, a paucity of information on outbound emigration of both people and money, real time financial status and most important state of armaments. Some pundits predict that Israel is rapidly moving to an irremediable situation (with others indicating they are already there). US/UK are essentially bankrupt – US sends billions in aide (not one THAAD but two!) which is not sustainable for a country which now spends one trillion in debt interest alone. With accession of BRICS’ emphasis on use of local, non dollar currencies and replacement of the SWIFT system, dedollarization will accelerate at high speeds. Count on serious blow back from the “deplorables” when hyperinflation ensues, unemployment spirals to double digits and public services such as public safety, health care and education erode to exceptional levels of non service. When the big hegemon and the little hegemon are destroying themselves at break neck speed, none of the Axis of Resistance are going to give both hegemons what they most need – World War III which distracts from the horrific war crimes being committed in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria; gives opportunity for financial “reset” under the guise of war time economy and pivots to austerity for all. Finally, under a war time footing, civil liberties can be suspended, never to return. Quoting many wise heads – “Be careful what you wish for.”
Posted by: abierno | Oct 21 2024 14:55 utc | 273
Re Arch Bungle @274; Given the very large divide between the Pentagon and the White House, my bet would be on some very deeply buried back channeling between Pentagon, and various high ranking military players in the Axis of Resistance. The Pentagon has repeatedly announced US weaponry,militia status, and other aspects of war readiness have been significantly eroded by political directives: Massive armaments to Ukraine and Israel, woke/vaccine policies resulted in significant attrition of much needed officers, very real issues with leadership policy. Putin, Xi, Kamenei are all aghast at Netanyahu’s butchery, but also aware that Israel is more and more hollowed out. When all countries have high levels of satellite surveillance, little occurs in secrecy except to the public. All major players know the UN is toothless, leaving only back channeling as a means of managing an ever increasingly explosive situation. Blinken/Hochstein/Sullivan are unwilling and unable to exercise any restraint on Netanyahu. They also are beholden to unseen players. They couch their commentary as “protecting US assets in West Asia.” Pentagon knows that those assets will erode sooner or later, owing to some of the worst foreign policy decisions in the history of the US. Again, US is in an obvious interregnum. This is recognized by all senior players in the game. All of this is just speculation but Putin learned considerably in managing Russia’s issues in Chechnya, Georgia. Note the Russian, Iranian and Chinese restraint in addressing the provocations of the hegemon et. al. Given the exceptional levels of weaponry developed by Russia, they have exercised relatively high levels of restraint in both the Kursk incursion and as regards war efforts in the Ukraine. The majority of the Axis of Resistance have deep respect for civilian lives (remember Gerasimov’s efforts against his own soldiers who committed civilian atrocities in Chechnya) which may explain some part of their restraint.
Posted by: abierno | Oct 21 2024 16:30 utc | 292
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I think your words are worth repeating as I think they are a realistic assessment and a positive representation of the viewpoint of Russia, Iran and China and some others. I think Putin et al have a very deep abhorrence for the killing of the innocent and know it can not be stopped by going down the same extemination path.

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 19:50 utc | 331

Israeli settlers are ready to move to Gaza “now”, they said today. Hmmm. Really? Do they realize that there are tens of thousands of dead bodies there? Asbestos and concrete dust filling the air? Unexploded ordinance ready to explode on the unwary?
Well, no matter. I guess Jews are immune to that stuff. Anyway, they held a meeting right outside the Gaza wall, where they could hear the IDF bombing and killing Palestinians as counselors instructed settlers on how to get some land in Gaza that was soon to be emptied of the “Gaza Arabs”, who will be expelled to other countries.
[…] “Weiss’s [a leader of a settler group] comments were echoed by Ben Gvir, who later told the crowd: ‘We are the owners of the land’. Ben Gvir also called for Palestinians in Gaza to ‘voluntarily’ transfer to other countries.”
[…] “Middle East Eye asked Golan what Israel’s plans were for the two million people still living in Gaza. Golan refused to answer the question. Tally Gotliv, a Likud MP, told MEE: ‘We need to occupy the complete land of Israel. There are no innocent people in Gaza. Everybody who has refused to leave the north is a collaborator.’ ” […]
It’s hard to describe the entitlement and scorn towards Palestinians that oozes from these people as you read the article. I won’t quote any more from it, but if you want to know how the common Israeli feels, you ought to read it.
link: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/settler-leader-daniella-weiss-says-palestinians-will-disappear-gaza
Also, there are Israeli settler groups advertising land and homes in Lebanon to Israeli settlers. Apparently God has also granted Lebanon to the Israelis, and they are ready to claim that country immediately, as well. I have not seen the brochures yet, although I might suggest that the real estate agents offering these homes to settlers could honestly use the phrase, “Available for a steal!”
Lebanon article here: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-settler-group-advertises-new-properties-southern-lebanon

Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 19:51 utc | 332

An RAF Typhoon from Akrotiri just “went dark” near the Syrian border, flying in Turkish airspace ENE of Iskenderun. As chance would have it, a KC2 tanker is flying just north or the Syrian border, heading east.
That’s just gone dark as well.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/zz338#37a58d2d
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 21 2024 19:41 utc | 329
What does this mean? I am not knowledgable.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:54 utc | 333

I think Putin et al have a very deep abhorrence for the killing of the innocent and know it can not be stopped by going down the same extemination path.
Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 19:50 utc | 332
Virtue-signaling-on-behalf-of? Good one, New Three.
The revolution isn’t a tea party.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:56 utc | 334

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:54 utc | 334
In the link you posted, instead of ‘going dark’, it looks like the tanker landed.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 21 2024 20:13 utc | 335

Planes have transponders which signal their location and identity, which means you can see them on apps like Flightradar24.com
Military planes in action or who just don’t want to be seen turn off the transponders and “go dark” i.e. you can’t see them Flightradar24. So it may be that RAF Typhoon was up to no good in Syria, and the tanker was there for it to refuel.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 21 2024 20:15 utc | 336

https://www.unz.com/runz/the-total-madness-of-the-state-of-israel/
<< Although those bloodthirsty statements by Smotrich and Sharon were generally directed towards the Muslims and Christians of the Middle East, Europeans have also certainly been the intended targets of such destruction, especially of the nuclear kind. For example, during the Second Intifada of the early 2000s, widespread suicide-bombings by Palestinian militants seeking freedom for their Occupied West Bank placed Israeli society under severe stress, and Prof. Martin van Creveld, one of the country’s most respected military historians, declared that if Israel were on the brink of falling, it would destroy all of Europe’s cities as an act of purely spiteful vengeance: "We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under." This doctrine under which a collapsing Israel would use its nuclear arsenal to destroy most of the world is called “the Samson Option,” and was widely publicized in a 1991 bestseller of that title by renowned investigative journalist Seymour Hersh. But although that book received a great deal of attention both at the time it was published and in the decades since then, when I read it a few years ago I discovered that one of its most surprising elements had never been discussed in any of the various reviews and summaries I had read in the media. Like most observers, I had always assumed that Israel had developed its nuclear arsenal as a trump card that it could play against the neighboring Arab states if the latter ever seemed on the verge of gaining the upper hand in conventional military terms. Indeed, during the severe military setbacks of the 1973 war, Israel did exactly that, and its threatened nuclear annihilation of Cairo and Damascus helped coerce the Nixon Administration into providing the unprecedented flow of military equipment that allowed Tel Aviv to turn the tide of battle and emerge victorious. But Hersh’s book devoted nearly twenty pages to the remarkable fact that during the 1980s the primary target of Israel’s nuclear and thermonuclear arsenal was actually the Soviet Union. He explained that the Israelis surreptitiously gained access to the American reconnaissance information that allowed them to effectively target Moscow, Leningrad, and the other most important Soviet cities for annihilation. This nuclear strike capability was intended to powerfully deter the USSR from providing too much support to its Arab allies that were Israel’s immediate adversaries. During those years, the Soviets were at the peak of their military power, possessing the world’s biggest nuclear arsenal, and given that Israel is so small geographically I found it quite shocking that it would have developed a serious battle plan to attack and destroy the largest country in the world. Furthermore, according to Hersh the Israelis were also making great efforts to develop miniaturized nuclear weapons that could be packed into an ordinary suitcase, which Mossad could then easily smuggle into the USSR or any other country deemed potentially hostile, with no possible means of defense against such an unobtrusive method of delivery. Over the years, many agitated commenters across the Internet have often claimed that Israeli embassies all around the world probably contain nuclear weapons that could be detonated in a crisis, thereby destroying the capital cities of every major country, and I’d always dismissed such notions as unreasonable paranoia. But after rereading portions of Hersh’s 1991 book and considering the recent exploding pager attacks, I’m now not so sure about that. These sorts of extremely bold or extremely foolish attitudes still seem to persist among current Israeli leaders. Enraged last year by what he regarded as insufficient Russian support after the Hamas attack, a top Israeli political figure went on RT to declare that after Israel destroyed Hamas, it would then target Russia for severe retaliation, an astonishing threat to make against the country possessing the world’s largest nuclear arsenal. >>

Posted by: burak | Oct 21 2024 20:15 utc | 337

Yahya Sinwar in his own words –
The late Hamas chief’s statements indicate a sophisticated leader, contradicting the superficial and villainous image presented by western media – an article by professor of Middle Eastern Studies, Northwestern University Qatar, author of two books on Hamas, Khaled Hroub, in MEE:
One key moment that largely escaped the attention of even those who closely study Hamas was a press conference Sinwar held on 26 May 2021, a few days after the 11-day “Sword of Jerusalem” confrontation with Israel that erupted on 10 May.
In an hour and 43 minutes, Sinwar responded to all sorts of questions, allowing for an in-depth journey into his political and military mind.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-war-yahya-sinwar-greeting-people-free-world-his-own-words

Posted by: JB | Oct 21 2024 20:18 utc | 338

teri 325 – The scale of Israeli atrocities against defenseless, harmless, starving Palestinian civilians reminds of shades of the Bataan death march…….go for water get bayoneted, beg for food get shot…..the level of evil displayed by IDF forces in the field in shooting and killing civilians dying of thirst is pathological…………..is the ICC paying attention……..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 21 2024 20:28 utc | 339

302 Tichy. “Post-Modernism: the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism” by Fredrick Jameson. The title says it.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 21 2024 20:37 utc | 340

Decided not to post earlier on Hezballah being ‘accused’ of having infrastructure (banking) under a hospital in Beirut, as I thought they would not strike there. Now they struck somewhere off the entrance to a hospital, presumably the one mentioned previously :
Graphic
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/78520
Something Baerbock said.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 21 2024 20:48 utc | 341

Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 17:22 utc | 301
Yes, the miscalculation of the century. On the part of Iran and its puppets. Or are you saying Iran has no puppets?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 21:16 utc | 342

it would then target Russia for severe retaliation, an astonishing threat to make against the country possessing the world’s largest nuclear arsenal.
>>
Posted by: burak | Oct 21 2024 20:15 utc | 338
Yeah! after 20 min of a nuclear zionist attack against Russia, some dozens of MIRV with half of megaton each will convert Occupied Palestine in a glass radiative desert; sorry for the Palestines, but Russia will not allow a second strike against them. Try to use Iron Dome against this….
Of course you can be a sadic proto-suicidal maniac when you want, but be very careful with the Bear.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 21:18 utc | 343

burak 338
Thank you for your timely reminder of the Samson Option. Hasbara scaremongering is a bit tedious after the recent Satanistan assault on 8 million Palestinians by bunker busting bombs and starvation.
Could you remind us of this teeth- chattering terror threat later please?
Yes, yes , you are vile, evil, mad psychopaths doing unspeakable things to your kind neighbours.
Or are you another manifestation of Professor Robert Lindsay’s psychodrivel?
Today I’m going to shoot 100 school children if somebody doesn’t pay attention to my obsessive ramblings.
Fuckin weirdos do my head in.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 21:30 utc | 344

The Israelis are.starting an invasion of Lebanon in the middle of the night? Does darkness give the attackers any advantage?

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 21 2024 21:33 utc | 345

I think Putin et al have a very deep abhorrence for the killing of the innocent and know it can not be stopped by going down the same extemination path.
Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 19:50 utc | 332
Virtue-signaling-on-behalf-of? Good one, New Three.
The revolution isn’t a tea party.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 19:56 utc | 335
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A revolution is 360 degrees, (Baer)back to where you started.
https://www.elsewhere.co.nz/fromthevaults/9981/the-beatles-revolution-take-20-10-minutes-long-1968/

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 21 2024 21:35 utc | 346

Yes, the miscalculation of the century. On the part of Iran and its puppets. Or are you saying Iran has no puppets?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 21:16 utc | 343
The child-murderers that you defend, have made bigger miscalculations and have the biggest puppet in the world, and that is their biggest problem, hybris, and you will see what that bring to them in the future.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 21:40 utc | 347

Posted by: burak | Oct 21 2024 20:15 utc | 338
Ergo, the “west” did Russia a favour by isolating it from the system that could collapse, even without nukes. But then again, is Israel going to attack Europe, which would mean the US would go down with it…which would mean Israel would go down as well? Seems like bluster to me. Not that it isn’t bad, the bluster. But come to think of it, there was this mysterious event with Nordstream not so long ago, so who knows? Was that linked to Israel, even if indirectly, to send Europe a message that you better toe the line with whatever the US is up to or else? Still, that was part of a chain of events that redounded to isolating Russia from a possible shock.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 21:40 utc | 348

Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 21:40 utc | 348
Yes, I got your point the first time. But Iran has puppets and has miscalculated. So why not blame Iran for a change, just to get the full picture?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 21:44 utc | 349

I have not been able to follow this thread, so excuse me if this is a duplicate:

🇮🇷 ⚡️ 🇮🇱 Al Jazeera News Alert
Israeli plans for retaliation against Iran are in final stage of approval. Iran is on high alert
“Israel has several options, including nuclear and oil facilities and Iranian military and governmental targets”
– Israeli Channel 14

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/34357

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 21 2024 21:44 utc | 350

316 Tichy. Regarding Diana Johnstone article in Consortium New which you referenced:
Her article seems to come down to that the policies of the Wolfowitz gang of neocons now running US foreign policy are in the interest of that clique and not of the United States. Defining the interests of the US as that of the American citizens, the neocon doctrine of world dominance was never in the interest of the majority of US citizens whether or not they were aware of this.
So with all its wordiness, I can’t see that her article is saying anything new
Except that I didn’t know that Israel as a “US aircraft carrier” was started by a military person who meant this literally. I always understood the aircraft carrier as a metaphor — the Israeli state a US military asset. She talks about the fact there are no actual military bases in Israel. But the entire country must be a military base as it receives billions of $ of US money. A very long article saying little imo

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 21 2024 21:46 utc | 351

@ Tobias Cole | Oct 21 2024 20:28 utc | 340
These people belong in one of Dante’s circles of hell. One thing I don’t get, and it occurred to me when I was posting the links at my comment at #333, is why do the Israelis feel they need all this property? There are only a bit over 8 million Israelis living in Israel and they don’t exactly have millions more wanting to move in. How do they think they will populate all this land they are stealing? They are killing everyone they can in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon right now, and bombing and threatening other countries as well. But unless they think the 8 million Israelis each get thousands of acres, what would they do with it? And how would they protect it?
God knows, they don’t have a very compelling outreach program that might attract other – actual – humans to live with them.

Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 21:46 utc | 352

Hey all…first post here from a longtime lurker. This whole thing in the Holy Land might be getting a bit worrisome to some of the more frequent commenters here. Seems like after the Sinwar killing that many of the Hamas fighters are just giving up. Surrendering? What’s up with that? I thought this war was going to be Israel’s demise?

Posted by: MikeMikeTango | Oct 21 2024 21:46 utc | 353

Jonathan W 343
They don’t like it up ’em, Mr Mannering.
So long as the blame for the genocide rested firmly on the Jews, MoA was a friendly place , united by a common enemy.
But now that the US is in the cross-hairs as the main driver of this genocide, thousands of diversionary narratives are presented.
It was not a mistake to provoke the illegal occupiers of Palestine because the whole world is now seeing their and their US sponsors’ callous inhumanity which was hidden before, except to Palestinians.
We never knew that the US would self-combust in a fit of rage if anybody blamed them for supplying the weapons.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 21:49 utc | 354

israel is a total criminal enterprise, a mafia-terrorist nation-state,
that must be sanctioned, isolated, and then abolished by the International Community
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1848397147130974635
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Picture of the first Israeli tanks in Adyseh on the Lebanese border. Soon, they will be met by the resistance, as any invader should be.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1848424022507229402
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel talks about “tunnels under al-Sahel hospital” in #Beirut. Is it preparing to repeat the #Gaza scenario by destroying hospitals under different lies and excuses?
Israel talks about “Hezbollah damaging the Lebanese economy” when Israel has destroyed dozens of villages in southern Lebanon, the Bekaa Valley and over +100 buildings in the suburbs of Beirut—an authentical Criminal mind and narrative
https://x.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1848456479335952502
Philip Proudfoot 🇱🇧🇵🇸 @PhilipProudfoot
How are we all supposed to just sit and pretend it’s normal and fine that Israel bombed every hospital in Gaza and is now moving on to bomb hospitals in Lebanon?
I feel insane. How is the world allowing this war on medics? How can we watch this happen again? How?

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 21:50 utc | 355

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 21 2024 16:03 utc | 285
@ Barrel Brown | Oct 21 2024 12:22 utc | 242
Incorrect. RL is(was) Unique, long term, below the radar, since 2019. Jake Blanchard is one of SeanAU/Debbie(X)/Complicated/ personas.
Cheers
OK. Thank you Outraged. You are probably correct about RL, and I will defer to your greater experience and knowledge here.
Regards-

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 21 2024 21:53 utc | 356

Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 15:59 utc | 282
*** They are, however, not responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ two thousand years ago.
Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 15:25 utc | 275
Especially since today’s Jews have no connection to the Jews of Jesus Christ’s era whatsoever.***
Genetically, most do not …. but that doesn’t alter the fact that they totally endorse, follow and implement the theology of the Jewish sect which insisted upon inflicting the aforementioned murder.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 21 2024 21:57 utc | 357

Seven Israelis Accused Of Giving Info To Iran On Targeted IDF Bases
Posted by: Carl | Oct 21 2024 18:50 utc | 320
This is probably more an attempt to intimidate the Haredi and other antiwar groups into silence over their opposition to Netanyahu, the war and conscription.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 21 2024 21:58 utc | 358

Jonathan W 350
Iran has not miscalculated. The US has miscalculated that Russia will not protect its ally, Iran , when it has not protected its friend Palestine.
We’ll have change Russian Roulette to American Roulette, a suicidal gambling pastime of Armageddon Chicken.
Whatever blows yer skirts up. I do genuinely believe that a billionaire’s life must be intensely boring.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 21:59 utc | 359

It’s not just Israel that is exposed as a criminal enrerprise. So is the US.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 21 2024 21:59 utc | 360

these are not idle words by Iran, either
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/34354
🇺🇳🇺🇸 Iran’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Amir Saeed Iravani, in a letter to the UN Security Council: Biden’s statement about his knowledge of the timing of the Israeli attack on Iran are worrying.
The US will bear full responsibility for its role in inciting and facilitating any Israeli aggression against Iran
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/34358
Resistance Trench
⚡🇺🇸🇮🇱 We all know that the UN is a useless organization that cannot even protect its own troops. Here, Iran’s Permanent Representative warns America that in any possible Israeli attack on Iran, America will be considered a partner in this attack (because Biden in Germany officially approved the attack on Iran) and American bases in the region will attacked same like Israeli targets in the occupied territories.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11299
Middle East Spectator
— ❗️🇮🇱 NEW: The communications systems at Haifa port have been hacked, broadcasting messages in Arabic warning of an upcoming missile attack on the port – Kann
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1848400910654845044
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel says workers at #Haifa port have received a message on their mobile phones that the port will be bombed and everyone should evacuate.
Reliable or not, it shows the ability to intercept and disrupt the Israeli communications system. If accurate, this is a big deal.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 22:08 utc | 361

It was not a mistake to provoke the illegal occupiers of Palestine because the whole world is now seeing their and their US sponsors’ callous inhumanity which was hidden before, except to Palestinians.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 21:49 utc | 355
That lesson comes at a price. If that was not a miscalculation then it was factored in by your heroes, Iran and Hamas and the rest of it. But if you want an eye-opener, just look at the pictures from the Middle East, then tell me whose demise it looks like. Now, only with a fair bit of “meaning-making” does it look like Israel’s demise. Nor does it look like Israel’s demise is going to happen soon. Maybe you see it but I don’t.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 22:10 utc | 362

Canadians’ Demand For Change Could Work To Israel’s Benefit
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/canadians-demand-for-change-could-work-to-israels-benefit
“As Poilievre and his Conservative Opposition continue to rise across the country on domestic issues, they have not stumbled in their support for Israel’s right to security in this ongoing war and the threat that Iran continues to pose to the region and the world.
He should be recognized as the most unconditional supporter of Israel that Canada has seen since former Prime Minister Stephen Harper,* and I would argue right now in the world.”
*Hey Jude! (2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUh5RpvvtFo
Canada’s PM Harper serenades Bibi at Jerusalem dinner.
Is political leadership in both US and Canada to be determined by which accomplice can suck Zionist genocide state cock better? Don’t vote for either.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 22:16 utc | 363

I am scandalised and deeply pained as a human being at the total abandonment of the Palestinians in the north of Gaza and in general by the world, with few exceptions.
I am particularly scandalised ond horrified with the BRICS states, who do not find it their main, most important and urgent DUTY as human beings and state representatives, to protect people, civilians, being relentlessly killed, starved and pushed out of their homes and land, every single day, 24 hours a day.

There is nothing more important and urgent in the world today than stopping the Zionists’ destruction of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, and the onslaught on Lebanon. That will define the future, not the BRICS and their summit.
Posted by: JB | Oct 21 2024 13:06 utc | 248

I support most part of your comment and the valid question you raise about the moral standards of Brics leaders, but I am afraid you are getting too emotional.
I see Russia and China as imperialist powers but if they offer me a chance to hit the hegemony of Western Banking System, I take the offer without fuss or quibble.

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 21 2024 22:22 utc | 364

– Here are the israeli plans for Gaza:
https://archive.vn/rCgnX

Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2024 22:54 utc | 366

I’m having a hard time following things. The Main Stream Media keeps on telling the world that Israel is winning the war. Yet many of the alternative commenters (like Scott Ritter) go as far as to say that this war will be Israel’s demise. I think many of the commenters here agree with the latter sentiment. But then I see how the Israelis are running all over Gaza, barely opposed. They killed off practically the entire Hamas hierarchy, and did the same to the Hezbollah hierarchy. Now we have reports of Hamas fighters simply surrendering in small groups. What’s giving here? Looks like the Israelis are moving forward to the big win!

Posted by: MikeMikeTango | Oct 21 2024 23:09 utc | 367

Is political leadership in both US and Canada to be determined by which accomplice can suck Zionist genocide state cock better? Don’t vote for either.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 22:16 utc | 364
They have made sure that all voting options favor themselves. Even not voting will have little effect.
The only action left to those who want change is to vote in the few races that have true progressives or anti-Zionists as candidates, for at least they can use their office to bring attention to what the Zionists rather not see the light of day, like Corbyn, Bernie, Ilhan, Tlaib, Khanna etc are doing,
and to exercise ones right not to finance their grip on the economy. Boycotts, and focusing on supporting small, local businesses instead of national and multinational corporations will weaken them financially.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 21 2024 23:18 utc | 368

to teri, exile, miachael72: thanks for posting facts. I just read in zero hedge that the Izzyhelliess have bombed Beirut again including massive strikes near hospitals. The images of the Gaza refugee families burned alive in their tents are etched in my brain. Izzyhell is a rabid dog pack or a bunch of sharks in a feeding frenzy….blood blood and more blood. Sadists. There aren’t enough words.. Rabid dogs are put down.
To Jane and others. Well some south American countries have pulled their ambassadors and ordered Izzyhell embassy “people” to leave their countries. I will say Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela for sure. I think there are others. These countries also refuse to trade with Izzyhell. If more of the BRICs would do this it might have an effect eventually. Bribem’s plan to gift $20billion from the seized Russian assets to Ukraine is being noticed. But, as has been noted, too many countries play both sides against the middle..Turkey. Brazil…
Can’t write more. Cheers

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 21 2024 23:18 utc | 369

“Hezbollah has been decapitated and Hamas fighters surrendering.” Yeah, and you think that the resistance crumbles just like that? Is that because you think they are so stupid they don’t know how to operate without a figurehead? Be serious MikeMikeTango. I think you’re a troll, go away.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | Oct 21 2024 23:18 utc | 370

Nobody cared about the official loss, supposedly in exercises, of a growler crew from the Eisenhower?
“The jet that went down belonged to Electronic Attack Squadron 130, or VAQ-130, based out of Whidbey Island.
The squadron, also known as the “Zappers,” had returned from a combat deployment with the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower where they saw major action against the Houthi rebels in Yemen.”
So good news for the US on the link below and just karma in exercises or something went slightly different from propag… news?
https://www.twz.com/air/ea-18g-growler-scored-its-first-air-to-air-kill

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 21 2024 23:19 utc | 371

Marc Miller @ Press Conference 10/17/24 talking about Yahya Sinwar:
“…Sin was a brutal terrorist that didn’t just terrorize the Israeli people, but that ruled Gaza with an iron fist before October 7th that brutalized Palestinians in Gaza, that tortured Palestinians in Gaza, and then unleashed a conflict that has been responsible for the death of more than 40,000 Palestinians.
So, I would hope that anyone that’s considering thinking of him in any favorable light at all will look at the actual consequence of his life, and the decisions that he made that wreaked such havoc for the Palestinian people.”
—————————————————————————————————————————
My God! Marc Miller has described Netanyahu to a T.
A. Before and after October 7th., Netanyahu brutalized and tortured Palestinians in Gaza (and all over occupied Palestine).
B. Netanyahu unleashed a conflict that has been responsible for the death of more (many times more) than 40,000 Palestinians.
C. And Netanyahu’s decisions to deny the Palestinians their homeland has wreaked havoc on the Palestinian people and killed tens of thousands of Palestinian men, women, and children since the beginning of his career in 1988.
Yes Marc, you dance with the devil that brung you!

Posted by: Ed | Oct 21 2024 23:20 utc | 372

CrazyTrain: no, I think you misunderstand. I’m just really confused. I always take the MMM’s representations with a grain of salt. But Israel is basically running all over Gaza, laying waste to everything, busting up all those massive tunnels; killing all the Hamas hierarchy. From a neutral perspective, it would seem that the Palestinians aren’t doing so well. Looks the same with the Hezbollah organization. I really don’t see anything that tells me that the Israeli’s are taking a beating or are in any jeopardy to loosing this war.

Posted by: MikeMikeTango | Oct 21 2024 23:27 utc | 373

@356 michaelj72
Our rulers want us to know how vicious they are, and to understand that we are incapable.
This method of domination has existed in various forms throughout history, that some are capable and willing to punish others not only as disuasion but as demonstration of superiority. Whether mankind is generally peaceful and law abiding or is trained to be by threat of force is a mute point here , because they have taken to hurting others solely as demonstration of superiority.
Obviously that affects a person, witnessing that, because most people have already accepted some kind of tolerance or justification of the use of punishment. That that has been extended to a level that throws the whole concept into question is very hard for anyone to reason out, given that a sense of justice by punishment does allow for premeditated harm to others. They have pushed that to limits that literally overpower a person’s ability to reason by using the already accepted channel just mentioned. It is uncharted territory, there are those that ‘connect up’ with it, and there are those that are repulsed . Those that are repulsed do not know more to do than turn away or voice their objection.
The decision makers make it as easy as possible for circumstance to be ignored by those not comfortable with, and because their objective is dominance they would also have society and the individual appear or feel silently complicit in some way. That is to say an individual must not only understand their disasociation from the actions but also actively contest their rulers , and hence the country they are such a part of, the one which they traditionaly rely on as representing a sense of justice.
This is too much for most people, and in truth it is only a fraction of all that occurs to them with regard.
As others post occasionally, it is more than they can stand and they are left feeling sick and helpless by it all.
Those who understand the presentation as purposeful, are doubly affected because they feel aware of there being highly manipulative and possibly psychopathic individuals coldly trying to take charge of society , nations or the world at any cost, not only with a disregard for Palestinians but for all who they come into contact with. They go out of their way to make that contact and to capture attention, to draw others in, to show what they are about.
So it’s not you, but it is important to be able to rationalise, distance, or calm extreme emotions because they will often cause dificulty for a person.
Alternatively a form of expression is necessary, talking to others, protesting out loud, music , sport etc.
That’s 2 Cents, ta very much

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 21 2024 23:31 utc | 374

This caught my attention:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-navy-aviators-found-dead-191554176.html
Two navy airmen dead … the “story “ is their plane crashes in a very remote area of mountainous terrain neat Mt. Washington … they just happened to have been back stateside after participating in operation prosperity retardian … yeah, that’s the ticket. How convenient that the crash site just happened to be in some of the most remote and inaccessible country in the US.
Not like there would be an witnesses other than grizzly bears. Just a real tragedy!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 22 2024 0:06 utc | 375

The 7 October Uprising was the most glorious expression of the human spirit in it’s right to be free ever seen since the Tet Offensive.
It will ring on through the centuries as an example of what can be accomplished through the strength of human will alone.. . .
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 17:40 utc | 305
===============
I just reread “Our Narrative: Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” a document issued by Hamas.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf
Highly recommended.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 22 2024 0:32 utc | 376

I really don’t see anything that tells me that the Israeli’s are taking a beating or are in any jeopardy to loosing this war.
Posted by: MikeMikeTango | Oct 21 2024 23:27 utc | 374

Let me help you see something.
– Iran managed to hit Tel Aviv with some 200 ballistic missiles, the best answer given by Zionist Apartheid regime to that operation is couple of “leaked documents” demonstrating their “power”
– Netanyahu who promised settlers living in occupied North Palestine, a return to their “homes”, do not dare get back to his “home” in Qeysariya.
– IOF who reported that they are done in Gaza and now turn focus on Lebanon, struggle to get back to Jebaliya for the 3rd time with remarkable casualties
– the legend of Apartheid Regime’s multi-layer defense system and Iron Dome is transformed to, Iron Roof, Iron Canteen and Blind Arrow
– 70% of settlers have left Haifa
– Precision Missiles and Roaming Drones are targeting Tel Aviv
– the birth of a true legend, Yahya Sinwar, by Zionist Media, has provided new blood to Axis of Resistance
hmmm … did I forget to mention the latest rumors?
A 40k multinational quick response force awaiting the order to march in and liberate Palestine.

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 22 2024 0:44 utc | 377

ttps://x.com/eyuplovely/status/1847774808194310541
Eyup Lovely @eyuplovely
Those little American piggies who cheered when Kamala Harris said I’m Speaking to that protestor asking about the holocaust she’s enabling. Sends a shiver down my spine. Most evil country on earth and they all think they’re somehow doing the moral thing. Hell will be crowded soon
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Gazaplatform?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Gaza News Platform
📍Channel 14:
The homes of senior Iranian officials have been added as potential targets for an Israeli attack.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/10/21/live-israel-destroying-north-gaza-through-death-and-displacement-un-says
US Muslim group urges probe into Israel’s use of human shields in Gaza
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling on the US Justice and State departments to investigate recent reports of Israel using Palestinians as human shields in the enclave….
“The State Department and the Department of Justice must investigate these credible charges of widespread and systematic human rights abuses by military forces that receive weapons paid for by American taxpayers and used against a civilian population,” CAIR’s executive director, Nihad Awad, said in a statement.
“These abuses, and the obvious and open ethnic cleansing of Gaza, violate our nation’s laws.”……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 22 2024 0:47 utc | 378

Been a rough day.
Several recent posts have helped.
Thanks for taking the time and making the effort.
Palestine, Soul of Humanity!

Posted by: simon crow | Oct 22 2024 1:01 utc | 379

CrazyTrain: no, I think you misunderstand.
Posted by: TangoMikeMike | Oct 21 2024 23:27 utc | 374
Nobody misunderstands, you’re a classic “concern troll” That’s so two years ago, try harder.

Posted by: jr | Oct 22 2024 1:06 utc | 380

Regardless of whether October 7 was a trap or not, Hamas walked right into it.
Don’t do that. A miscalculation.
All the splendid victories listed by Framarz sound like so much BS about some Mahdi-led rapid reaction force with 40000 men. It is going to be a long wait, unless you mean how Israel is going to resettle Gaza in the not so distant future.
Just look at what is happening now instead of listing some pinpricks which are inevitable in every conflict and empty promises. Even the Iranian missile strikes were reported to have killed one Palestinian, no-one else. In the fog of war do NOT fall for your own propaganda.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 1:07 utc | 381

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 22 2024 0:06 utc | 376
Yes , also found it bizarre and mentioned it @372 and back @61
Growlers, and prowlers before, always have to clear the way, gulf, Serbia , etc , one (or more) led the way

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 22 2024 1:09 utc | 382

@368
See US experience in Vietnam from 1965, won every engagement for 8 of 10 years until tossed ignominiously in 1975.
See Afghanistan 20 years to be tossed out with live coverage of people hanging to transport planes!
You need to expand your sources of reality.

Posted by: paddy | Oct 22 2024 1:14 utc | 383

See US experience in Vietnam from 1965, won every engagement for 8 of 10 years until tossed ignominiously in 1975.
Posted by: paddy | Oct 22 2024 1:14 utc | 384
As I understood it, all those engagements were won by calling in air support.
The Americans could never beat the Viet on the group in a fair fight.
It’s kind of like calling in big brother when the runt you picked on turns out to be a wildcat.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 1:52 utc | 384

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 1:52 utc | 385
^^^ Or at least, that’s what I got from the book “A Bright Shining Lie ” by Neil Sheehan.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 1:53 utc | 385

Even the Iranian missile strikes were reported to have killed one Palestinian, no-one else. In the fog of war do NOT fall for your own propaganda.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 1:07 utc | 382
We shouldn’t fall for our own propaganda, but you swallow the Israeli propaganda hook, line and sinker. Nice!

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 22 2024 1:57 utc | 386

Recommended:
Reading Resistance: First Draft Of A Book
I’ve been ‘editing’ a book of the words of Hamas, Hezbollah, Ansarallah, the Ayatollah, et Allah, et cetera. This is for my reference more than anything, as I keep having to find these speeches, interviews, and segments from various censored crevices of the Internet and physical books. So I thought I’d put them into one book. You’re (literally) free to have a look.
Here’s the 250ish page book as either a PDF or an EPUB.
https://indi.ca/reading-resistance-first-draft-of-a-book/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 1:59 utc | 387

Blowing up Israeli Explosives – Resistance Roundup – Day 381
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/blowing-up-israeli-explosives-resistance-roundup-day-381/#
Merkava Tally since 2.Oct 2023
237 destroyed (unchanged)
681 approx damage (unchanged)

Posted by: Exile | Oct 22 2024 2:12 utc | 388

@ Tichy
Exactly and my real name is Netanyahu and I am here to help. Anything else?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 2:20 utc | 389

📍Channel 14:
The homes of senior Iranian officials have been added as potential targets for an Israeli attack.
Wonder if there was a bit “less” to the alleged drone striking Netanyahoo’s residence.
Little damage, no Hezbollah claim, no panicked over-reaction, Netanyahu remaining at location for several hours, etc. And now used as a perfect excuse to erase another “red line” in the conduct of war-fighting in general, guaranteed to provoke an immediate harsh response.
SecDef Austin added his voice earlier today to idea that “decision” to attack Iran is solely Israel’s to make and “It is difficult to imagine the form and size of an Israeli strike on Iran”
Will they actually step aside and allow Israel to spiral events completely out of control coincident with the BRICS meeting?

Posted by: jayc | Oct 22 2024 2:28 utc | 390

Copium

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 2:32 utc | 391

Re: Haifa 70% evacuated
Confirmed or just rumor ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 22 2024 2:37 utc | 392

Here’s the 250ish page book as either a PDF or an EPUB.
https://indi.ca/reading-resistance-first-draft-of-a-book/
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 22 2024 1:59 utc | 388
This is brilliant work. Thanks for making it available.
I suspect it has the potential to become a reference for future resistance movements.
god knows there will be many of those to come …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 2:55 utc | 393

Copium
Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 2:32 utc | 392
Sounds like you’re doing most of the coping here, doomer.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 2:55 utc | 394

60,000 people were evacuated in Haifa which has a population of nearly 300,000. The reason was the blazing fire in the surrounding bush areas, which was suspected to have been started by arsonists. Russia and Turkey rushed to help. What didn’t they bomb the city as soon as they had the chance?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 3:07 utc | 395

Any chance someone could put a last button on the page to scroll straight to the newest comments?

Posted by: , | Oct 22 2024 3:19 utc | 396

I really don’t see anything that tells me that the Israeli’s are taking a beating or are in any jeopardy to loosing this war.
Posted by: MikeMikeTango | Oct 21 2024 23:27 utc | 374
So, the fact that Eilat port is a complete wreck and Haifa is in flames doesn’t particularly give you pause for thought?
This is fine.

Two questions for you, my one post wonder, and I’m sure you and your sock-muppets will never, ever get around to answering them:

1. Why is the ‘most powerful army in the middle east’ still playing whack-a-mole in Gaza getting it’s tanks and men BLOWN TO HELL on a DAILY basis ONE YEAR LATER?
2. Why is why is the ‘most powerful army in the middle east’, one year later unable to penetrate significantly into Southern Lebanon despite apparently having taken to “then entire senior leadership of Hezbollah”?

For extra credit:

3. Given the hundreds of casualties already sustained in southern Lebanon: When the IDF/IOF begins to move further towards the Litani, assuming their loss rate remains more or less the same, how much of the IDF will be left by the time they get to Beirut – ASSUMING THEY GET TO BEIRUT AT ALL?
4. Assuming they get to the Litani, and given that in Gaza the resistance fights in and among the occupation forces, and knowing that Hezbollah carries out the same tactics on a bigger scale, how much will be left of the IDF/IOF within a year of occupying South Lebanon?
5. Why has the army with the most interconnected and concentrated network of air defense in the world been totally incapable of stopping a missile swarm sent all the way from Persia? Moreover, why is that same army unable to stop drones and missiles from a poorly funded resistance movement, despite aid from the entire Western Empire?
6. Why is the IDF force-drafting ultra-orthodox Jews into the military if they aren’t taking heavy losses?
7. How has the Houthi blockade of the Red Sea, essentially stopping traffic to Israel via that route harmed israel? To what degree?
8. Has the closure of tens of thousands of izzraeli businesses had no impact on the sustainability of the occupation? To what degree?
9. Has the flight of hundreds of thousands of skilled specialists from Occupied Palestine impacted the occupation economy? To what degree?
10.What impact on the israeli occupation economy has the internal displacement of hundreds of thousands of izzraeli settlers had? Is this benefitting the occupation?

And when you’re done answering those I have another page of 20 for you and your doomer friends to level up on.
We’re all inclined to believe the big and strong will simply smash the weak and poor to the ground in a twinkle of an eye and that will be the end of the story.
And yet, why is that not happening in Palestine and Lebanon?
Why is it so difficult for the Anglo-American-Zionist Empire?
What’s the holdup? it should have been over by November 2023.

Something doesn’t add up here. Perhaps the Empire is a paper tiger?

Pay no heed to the man behind the curtain …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 3:24 utc | 397

Sounds like you’re doing most of the coping here, doomer.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 2:55 utc | 395
Sure, you can tell me I was wrong after the rapid reaction force of 40,000 men have come to liberate Palestine any day now.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 3:25 utc | 398

Alastair Crooke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6E3eywKk0
“Resistance escalates, Netanyahu degenerates.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 22 2024 3:26 utc | 399

Sure, you can tell me I was wrong after the rapid reaction force of 40,000 men have come to liberate Palestine any day now.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 22 2024 3:25 utc | 399
I can tell you you’re wrong now because your imperial army is still failing one year later against barefoot fighters with improvised weapons.
I’ll tell you you’re double wrong when your imperial army retreats back in collapse to Tel Aviv, less than six months from now – Just as they did when Nasrallah sent them scurrying out of Southern Lebanon more than 20 years ago.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 22 2024 3:30 utc | 400