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October 20, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-252
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Interested to know where you acquired ESP and mind-reading skills … Posted by: Menz | Oct 21 2024 6:39 utc | 201 it’s called terrorism: Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 6:47 utc | 202 Australia is dismantling academic freedom in defense of Zionism> Posted by: Menz | Oct 21 2024 6:50 utc | 203 Expat Vibes Posted by: Menz | Oct 21 2024 6:53 utc | 205 c freedom that predates October 7, which seeks to silence critical discussions about Israel and to label any academic activity, including teaching and scholarship, that criticizes Israel as antisemitic and therefore illegitimate, and illegal. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 6:55 utc | 206 Re: Stolen House Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 6:56 utc | 207 Posted by: Passerby | Oct 21 2024 6:19 utc | 200 Posted by: BD | Oct 21 2024 7:06 utc | 208 The men, women and children of the Gaza that are being buried are seeds that will grow into stronger palestinian warriors: Posted by: Menz | Oct 21 2024 7:11 utc | 209 By the way Moonie here’s another vid where Hamas drones penetrated the armour of a Merkava and took out its engines. Posted by: Autumn | Oct 21 2024 7:14 utc | 210 The leaked documents also clearly show hierarchy: Posted by: passerby | Oct 21 2024 7:16 utc | 211 Re: Cyprus Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 7:26 utc | 212 https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1779258392088859031 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 7:28 utc | 213 Re: Merkavas ? Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 7:31 utc | 214 Compelling 1:45 minute video projecting the world commemoration of the 16th anniversary of the Gaza Genocide. At the end Young Children ask their grandparents “what did you do to stop this ?” Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 7:40 utc | 215 “So you are suggesting, Oct7th was at least ignored by israeli gov, it not worst. To play victim and go straight to gaza extermination.” Posted by: necromancer | Oct 21 2024 8:13 utc | 216 Larry Johnson re leaked documents: “Whoever leaked these documents clearly had at least one objective in mind — stopping Israel’s preparation for an attack on Iran. Who done it? I don’t know.” “I didn’t steal America from the natives. I didn’t sell any slaves. None of the people living in America did.” Posted by: Michael A | Oct 21 2024 8:34 utc | 218 Giant Turd BBC ‘journalist’ Douglas Murray at his stinkiest worst – remember him hanging around morgues last year helping to construct ‘40 dead burnt babies’? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 21 2024 8:40 utc | 219 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 20 2024 22:52 utc | 139 Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 8:46 utc | 220 Posted by: Michael A | Oct 21 2024 8:34 utc | 219
This is the burden placed on the shoulders of the kids – now, whether they grow to support genocide or grow to be left in a confused “‘sorry'” state is a separate matter. Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 9:25 utc | 221 “Indeed and I studied this for a long time. I know for a fact that it look them between 5-10 years to make that bomb. Ritter’s a fucking shithead…..I don’t know what to say. I can’t help if I’m smart and educated and you all are stupid and ignorant. Not my fault.” Compelling 1:45 minute video projecting the world commemoration of the 16th anniversary of the Gaza Genocide. At the end Young Children ask their grandparents “what did you do to stop this ?” Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 21 2024 9:23 utc | 230
So Israel and the IDF are a kind of parasites that desperately need all kinds of hosts for them to act as if they’re accomplishing anything – when it’s either another party doing it for them, or it’s, bluntly put, bullshit they fall for themselves while poisoning the well with it everywhere else. Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 9:54 utc | 224 I already elaborated my reasoning above. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 10:00 utc | 225 Oh, no, I’ll allow myself one more post for the time being and then rest – it’s as if “Outraged” underwent mitosis and the other cell called itself “Robert Lindsay”. Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 10:03 utc | 226 all the leadership which is part of the US-centralized Empire, essentially the entire Western world, is on-board with the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza/Palestine, and now southern Lebanon/Beirut, and the mainstream media, the Narrative Matrix, is also largely complicit Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 10:07 utc | 227 Because he’s an alarmist spammy clickbait blog-whoring narcissistic fool who’s been wrong forever now? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 10:08 utc | 228 It will take them 3-10 years to turn that screw. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 10:12 utc | 229
Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 21 2024 9:26 utc | 232 Posted by: Arctaroll | Oct 21 2024 10:13 utc | 230 “Oh, no, I’ll allow myself one more post for the time being and then rest – it’s as if “Outraged” underwent mitosis and the other cell called itself “Robert Lindsay”.” There’s more odd socks on this blog than in my sock drawer. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 11:19 utc | 232 To those ridiculing WMD expert Scott Ritter’s prediction of readiness of an Iranian nuclear bomb, it’s worth remembering that in 1993, Netanyahu claimed that Iran would be ready by 1999. Posted by: Decorum | Oct 21 2024 11:42 utc | 233 Robert Lindsay@849 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2024 11:44 utc | 234 Battlehymn of the Republic Posted by: ld | Oct 21 2024 12:03 utc | 235 Destroying the civilian banking system in Lebanon is a war crime under the Geneva Protocols…….but who is counting, this must be the 500th war crime committed by the IDF since October 7th…………hopefully the ICC is cataloging all these outrages in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon……………. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 21 2024 12:11 utc | 237 Ritter, Iran and Nuclear Weapons Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 21 2024 12:11 utc | 238 Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 21 2024 12:11 utc | 250 “Destroying the civilian banking system in Lebanon is a war crime under the Geneva Protocols” Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 21 2024 12:15 utc | 239 Kamhoe Harris is a brought and paid for Soros devotee, fully committed in every single way to the agenda of her mentor. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 21 2024 12:20 utc | 240 Posted by: canuck | Oct 21 2024 9:39 utc | 235 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 21 2024 12:22 utc | 241 Media propaganda not to affect Iran’s nuclear doctrine Posted by: JB | Oct 21 2024 12:27 utc | 242 Sorry about going nuclear yesterday. Too much booze :-/ Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 12:31 utc | 243 I don’t know exactly what Ritter’s words where, but his predictions aren’t that good or the Ukraine war would have been long over. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 12:47 utc | 244 Also, there is a Fatwa by the Leader of the Islamic Revolution which bans any possession and use of weapons of mass destruction. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 12:53 utc | 245 “During the conference, workshops are being given on how to build settlements without government permission.” Government officials, including Smotrich, are going to attend and give advice to illegal settlers on how to break the law. Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 12:58 utc | 246 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 10:07 utc | 240 Posted by: JB | Oct 21 2024 13:06 utc | 247 Intriguing indeed. https://voxday.net/2024/10/21/an-intriguing-escalation/ Posted by: UnknownAlabamian | Oct 21 2024 13:17 utc | 248
No, you’re not educated. You’re pathologically aggressive, and the fact that you’re not the only one here in no way excuses you. Posted by: Leuk | Oct 21 2024 13:29 utc | 249 Some forces have an interest in raising the bar for any speech so high that no speech is permissible or deemed adequate. Only for others of course and not applicable to themselves. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 21 2024 13:29 utc | 250 Russian ‘Restraint’ Towards Assassination of Arab Leaders Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 13:37 utc | 251 @ Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 12:47 utc | 257 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 21 2024 13:49 utc | 252 I’ll never understand, for the life of me, why people expect predictions from Ritter, or anyone else. Posted by: Autumn | Oct 21 2024 13:59 utc | 253 Stop making sense! You’ll piss off the bar clientele. 😉😁 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 13:59 utc | 254 Well said JB ( Oct 21 2024 13:06 utc | 260 ). Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 21 2024 14:02 utc | 255
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And what was “this misguided belief”?
Posted by: librul | Oct 21 2024 14:04 utc | 256 I’m suspicious of the israeli claim to have killed Sinwar “by accident”. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:09 utc | 257 I agree with JB @ #260. The people are for Palestinians but ‘leaders’ are for USrael. We must compel the change we seek. Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 14:14 utc | 258 Posted by: librul | Oct 21 2024 14:04 utc | 268 Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 14:16 utc | 259 Jabalia, northern Gaza notes from today. In response to all of the below, the US has decided to send yet another $5.2 billion to the Israeli nazis. Sorry for the length, but this is unrelenting. Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 14:16 utc | 260 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:09 utc | 269 Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 14:18 utc | 261 A problem is that a lot of people like Ritter who work in the media space tend to use clickbait titles and exaggerated claims
If your critical thinking faculties are engaged, as they always should be, then you’ll be able to see directly through the marketing required to push a message through the morass of modern social media and directly to the essence of the message. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:22 utc | 262 I’m wondering if the ?fact? that he had some money with them was related to a meeting of some sort? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:29 utc | 263 Open Minded Thinker frequently runs random war footage in the background of the news. It can also have the occasional clickbait title; something I find extremely irritating. Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 14:32 utc | 264 The wonderful workers at the Greek port of Piraeus did the right thing and blocked a container full of ammo destined for Haifa/Israel. Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 21 2024 14:40 utc | 265 Open Minded Thinker frequently runs random war footage in the background of the news. It can also have the occasional clickbait title; something I find extremely irritating. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:41 utc | 266 Exile @726 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2024 14:42 utc | 267 “This is why I made it clear at the United Nations that civilian sites could lose their protected status if terrorists abuse this status.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 14:45 utc | 268 Id@2023 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2024 14:46 utc | 269 Oh, too bad. Posted by: teri | Oct 21 2024 14:52 utc | 270 Hindustan times at the two minute mark. Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 14:53 utc | 271 It is very difficult to ascertain Israel’s actual war front status owing to the exceptional levels of military censorship, to say nothing of the outright murder of journalists in Gaza, Lebanon, West Bank and even in Israel itself. Also, a paucity of information on outbound emigration of both people and money, real time financial status and most important state of armaments. Some pundits predict that Israel is rapidly moving to an irremediable situation (with others indicating they are already there). US/UK are essentially bankrupt – US sends billions in aide (not one THAAD but two!) which is not sustainable for a country which now spends one trillion in debt interest alone. With accession of BRICS’ emphasis on use of local, non dollar currencies and replacement of the SWIFT system, dedollarization will accelerate at high speeds. Count on serious blow back from the “deplorables” when hyperinflation ensues, unemployment spirals to double digits and public services such as public safety, health care and education erode to exceptional levels of non service. When the big hegemon and the little hegemon are destroying themselves at break neck speed, none of the Axis of Resistance are going to give both hegemons what they most need – World War III which distracts from the horrific war crimes being committed in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria; gives opportunity for financial “reset” under the guise of war time economy and pivots to austerity for all. Finally, under a war time footing, civil liberties can be suspended, never to return. Quoting many wise heads – “Be careful what you wish for.” Posted by: abierno | Oct 21 2024 14:55 utc | 272 World War III which distracts from the horrific war crimes being committed in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria; gives opportunity for financial “reset” under the guise of war time economy and pivots to austerity for all. Finally, under a war time footing, civil liberties can be suspended, never to return. Quoting many wise heads – “Be careful what you wish for.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 15:13 utc | 273 What brilliant logic! So any country could genocide you right now with a carpet bombing of nuclear bombs, as long as they ask someone on their death bed to press the button. “N-none of the people living did it” Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 15:25 utc | 274 High-ranking Israeli Officers Killed in Jabalia Ambush Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 21 2024 15:26 utc | 275 Some positive action taken by Australia – Europe must follow suit. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2024 15:29 utc | 276 Russia is doing something much more damaging to the USUKIS Satanists than threatening them. Ignoring them , when Smotrich is desperately looking for attention. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 15:35 utc | 277 @Giyane 278 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 15:39 utc | 278 Public money – used to shut down free speech. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 21 2024 15:50 utc | 279 https://x.com/Palestine001_/status/1847590812441260301 Posted by: Jane | Oct 21 2024 15:59 utc | 280 They are, however, not responsible for the murder of Jesus Christ two thousand years ago. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 15:59 utc | 281 Some positive action taken by Australia – Europe must follow suit. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 15:59 utc | 282 Especially since today’s Jews have no connection to the Jews of Jesus Christ’s era whatsoever. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:00 utc | 283 @ Menz | Oct 21 2024 6:50 utc | 204 Incidentally, this “sins of the father” mentality is especially prevalent in Japan, and it is truly sick. Whole families will be ostracized from society if any of their children commit a crime. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:04 utc | 285 @ Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:40 utc | 103 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:07 utc | 286 There is nothing more important and urgent in the world today than stopping the Zionists’ destruction of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, and the onslaught on Lebanon. That will define the future, not the BRICS and their summit. Posted by: Jane | Oct 21 2024 16:12 utc | 287 Re: Lawfare Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 16:12 utc | 288 https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1848310554726711394 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 16:13 utc | 289 The ground invasion of #Lebanon has began: Israeli tanks of the division 91 has entered Aita Al Shaab. This is when the real battle will start, bringing the Israeli invaders to a closer vicinity to the resistance. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:20 utc | 290 Re Arch Bungle @274; Given the very large divide between the Pentagon and the White House, my bet would be on some very deeply buried back channeling between Pentagon, and various high ranking military players in the Axis of Resistance. The Pentagon has repeatedly announced US weaponry,militia status, and other aspects of war readiness have been significantly eroded by political directives: Massive armaments to Ukraine and Israel, woke/vaccine policies resulted in significant attrition of much needed officers, very real issues with leadership policy. Putin, Xi, Kamenei are all aghast at Netanyahu’s butchery, but also aware that Israel is more and more hollowed out. When all countries have high levels of satellite surveillance, little occurs in secrecy except to the public. All major players know the UN is toothless, leaving only back channeling as a means of managing an ever increasingly explosive situation. Blinken/Hochstein/Sullivan are unwilling and unable to exercise any restraint on Netanyahu. They also are beholden to unseen players. They couch their commentary as “protecting US assets in West Asia.” Pentagon knows that those assets will erode sooner or later, owing to some of the worst foreign policy decisions in the history of the US. Again, US is in an obvious interregnum. This is recognized by all senior players in the game. All of this is just speculation but Putin learned considerably in managing Russia’s issues in Chechnya, Georgia. Note the Russian, Iranian and Chinese restraint in addressing the provocations of the hegemon et. al. Given the exceptional levels of weaponry developed by Russia, they have exercised relatively high levels of restraint in both the Kursk incursion and as regards war efforts in the Ukraine. The majority of the Axis of Resistance have deep respect for civilian lives (remember Gerasimov’s efforts against his own soldiers who committed civilian atrocities in Chechnya) which may explain some part of their restraint. Posted by: abierno | Oct 21 2024 16:30 utc | 291 This is similar to the 1,000 social media genociders who have been indentfied by name. There will eventually warrants issued for their arrest and trial. Assets seized etc etc Posted by: Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:34 utc | 292 @ Tichy | Oct 21 2024 16:07 utc | 287 That said, the idea of the October 7 attack was the worst miscalculation of the century, in addition to being a crime in its own right, which is too soon forgotten by Israel’s sworn enemies. Unless Iran could be doing so unthinkable as sending their Arab brothers to the meatfrinder, overpromising and underdelivering. And that said, all this ersatz jingoism about an Iranian nuke is playing into the hands of Iran’s enemies, regardless of whether it is true or not. As for Ritter, he has been open about his financial woes, which does not make him a trustworthy source, let alone give him access to any classified info. He does an admirable job speculating but that’s just it: speculation. The bottomline is a lesson for all: using Gaza’s plight to vent one’s own frustrations with and alienation from one’s own political machinery is going to end up badly, justified though they might be. Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 17:06 utc | 294 Has anyone any rational explanation for why the Lebanese Army seems to be in a coma? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 17:07 utc | 295 First and most urgent question. Will Iran react? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 17:08 utc | 296 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFOTBAiTHZA&t=310s Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 21 2024 17:13 utc | 297 Re: Invasion of Lebanon has stated ? Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 17:14 utc | 298 Is it their plan to just lie prone while their own people are butchered before their eyes? Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 17:14 utc | 299 That said, the idea of the October 7 attack was the worst miscalculation of the century, in addition to being a crime in its own right, which is too soon forgotten by Israel’s sworn enemies Posted by: Dave | Oct 21 2024 17:22 utc | 300 |
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