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October 20, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-252
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Posted by: Outraged | Oct 20 2024 20:32 utc | 100 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:36 utc | 101 @Outraged, how about you provide us with a list of the indigenous people we Swedes killed off? Where were they? When was it? Trust me, with the virtue signaling piss liberal state of Sweden, there would be no way I wouldn’t have heard of it before. Yet here I am and all I hear is crickets. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:40 utc | 103 If Israel uses nukes as the recently leaked documents suggest, then that will kick the Symington Amendment into force, and the US will have to stop all aid to Israel or be manifestly breaking its own law. Posted by: Lysias | Oct 20 2024 20:48 utc | 104 I suddenly realized that Bernard actually deleted a message I wrote where I simply quoted Karl Marx. That really is unacceptable. I’ll just post it again. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:49 utc | 105 Perhaps Bernard thought that posting that Marx quote would be treated as a breach of German law. Posted by: Lysias | Oct 20 2024 20:54 utc | 106 If Israel uses nukes as the recently leaked documents suggest, then that will kick the Symington Amendment into force, and the US will have to stop all aid to Israel or be manifestly breaking its own law. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:55 utc | 107 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 10 2024 18:34 utc | 433 “Do you believe other far more capable powers with focused ISR assets will permit launch after detecting pre-launch preparations? Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 20 2024 20:57 utc | 108 Ed 52 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 20 2024 21:00 utc | 109 @Lysias 104. The rules based order long ago stopped caring about both American law and international laws. Remember that it was Dubya who blantenly said the constitution is just a piece of paper Posted by: Ggersh | Oct 20 2024 21:03 utc | 110 Fabricio Carrisio in Gospa News suggests that Sinwar wasnt killed but saved and that a fake scene was arranged to make it look like he was dead. This was also probably true about Al Baghdady. Posted by: Jane | Oct 20 2024 21:08 utc | 111 So reante rubs salt in the wounds by pretending to be a redneck, while actually being well-informed Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:09 utc | 112 @ Lysias | Oct 20 2024 20:48 utc | 104 There are same reports that “Syrian President Assad has sent a message to Iran and Hezbollah that he does not want them to drag him into a war with Israel,” – BHOL. Posted by: Roberto | Oct 20 2024 21:14 utc | 114 to librul…I agree with Lysias. Even though you felt free to insult me a while back. You may have been in an evil mood that day as was the item from the north country. Canuck, dear, if you don’t care for librul’s posts, don’t read them. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 20 2024 21:14 utc | 115 in case not previously seen Posted by: Jo | Oct 20 2024 21:15 utc | 116 Tichy 107 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 20 2024 21:17 utc | 117 If Sinwar does turn up alive it could be a PR fiasco for the Zionists and the Yanks, on a number of levels. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:19 utc | 118 And here you go. Israel will escalate its war against Hezbollah, and you know why? For some it does not even seem to be clear what victory means. For some, every human life sacrificed in a losing war against the “enemy” is a “victory” which gives the “martyr” the reward of to basking in Allah’s glory and all that (I will not even bother to mention the virgins). Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 20 2024 21:26 utc | 119 ” Get a copy of Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma and see how they bow to the Kabbalah. Most are unwitting followers not knowing the true nature of the spirtual occult powers sought by those who run our governments. They lay the foundation for the inner circles of power. They are taught to follow orders or lose their positions. Posted by: Moonie | Oct 20 2024 21:26 utc | 120 I know the difference between karma and whiskey thanks. Whiskey gives you a headache. Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 20 2024 21:32 utc | 121 ” Hamas attacked an Israeli Merkava Mk.IV tank in the northern Gaza Strip using an unexploded American Mk82 bomb: Posted by: Moonie | Oct 20 2024 21:33 utc | 122 “@ canuck | Oct 20 2024 13:38 utc | 10 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:55 utc | 107 “If Israel uses nukes as the recently leaked documents suggest” Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 20 2024 21:42 utc | 124 thanks circumspect for your extra info much appreciated Posted by: south | Oct 20 2024 21:45 utc | 125 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 20 2024 19:54 utc | 89 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 20 2024 21:46 utc | 126 Here a link to visit the “Top Secret” documents, allegedly leaked on TG, allegedly connected to Zionist Apartheid retaliation against Iran. Posted by: Framarz | Oct 20 2024 21:46 utc | 127 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 20:55 utc | 107 “If Israel uses nukes as the recently leaked documents suggest” Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:48 utc | 128 I tell you, Netanyahu will be killed by Israeli Jews, not by Muslims. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 20 2024 21:51 utc | 129 I tell you, Netanyahu will be killed by Israeli Jews, not by Muslims. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 20 2024 21:51 utc | 130 Just like he incited his own extremist followers to murder his predecessor Rabin, the current descent of Israel into madness will lead another Zionist fanatic seeking power to agitate for their own even more extremist followers to make room at the top. Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:54 utc | 131 Interesting commentary on recent events in Cyprus : Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 20 2024 21:59 utc | 132 Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 20 2024 21:14 utc | 115 Israel is going to finish their genocide in Gaza. Posted by: vargas | Oct 20 2024 22:06 utc | 134 “It remains somewhat rare that a colonel (and brigade commander) would be involved in leading operations directly in the battle zone in Gaza. Col. Daqsa has been identified as one of the most senior officers to have been killed in over a year of Gaza operations.” Beirut 10 raids so far, those on Al-Qard Al-Hassan Foundation (Hezballah banking) stated as to damage trust. Posted by: Ornot | Oct 20 2024 22:32 utc | 136 ““Whiskey” will indeed cause headaches as it is a horrible Irish blended concoction. On the other hand a Speyside single malt whisky, with just a splash of water to release the notes of lavender, heather and violets, is something to be savoured, and will not give you a headache. This is true, but millions of Americans are still profiting from the proceeds of that early American colonial era. Posted by: Lengai | Oct 20 2024 22:47 utc | 138 @ SeanAU/Debbie/canuck… | Oct 20 2024 21:39 utc | 123 If we mandated that our leaders would have to lead his/her troops in battle , we would have much, much, less wars. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 20 2024 22:52 utc | 140 Further to the above: Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2024 22:53 utc | 141 @ 12. Posted by: Suresh | Oct 20 2024 22:55 utc | 142 Scott Ritter claims Iran can produce a nuclear war head in a matter of days if provoked by Israel, and of course they have an excellent delivery system already. I think, if you read between the lines, that Iran has ample nuclear weapons capability already in place and just like Israel they don’t want to say it out loud. They do however want the US and Israel to be aware of the consequences they may face following an attack on Iran. Posted by: jr | Oct 20 2024 22:59 utc | 143 michaelj72 | Oct 20 2024 17:03 utc Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 20 2024 23:04 utc | 144 AJ Inside Story: Is Israel Trying To Create Civil Strife in Lebanon? Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2024 23:04 utc | 145 “I’m getting reports that Haifa is unrecognizable now – all up in flames. Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 20 2024 23:06 utc | 146 According to a TC post, US intelligence leaked the docs about Israel’s plans for upcoming assault on Iran because the plan “freaked them (US) out,” when they saw the extent of the ordinance Israel is trotting out. US hasn’t got the stomach for outright war on a powerful adversary at this time as an MOA poster above said. Has Israhell copped to this reality? It may well get stuck in Lebanon. Like Ukraine, the proxy Israel will have to do the dying. And it really thought it could be Western imperialism’s cancer stem cell in West Asia. “Traitors to the people no matter how well-educated can’t survive a fight with a proper Marxist…,” Posted by: Ed | Oct 20 2024 23:08 utc | 148 canuck | Oct 20 2024 16:02 utc Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 20 2024 23:14 utc | 149 MOATS, Ep 388, with George Galloway Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 20 2024 23:16 utc | 150 Funny how certain posters want to see evidence of Merkava cooking off/displaced turrets as proof of damage but has anyone seen proof of survival from RPGs posted by the Entity? Posted by: Suresh | Oct 20 2024 23:17 utc | 151 “netanyahu and gallant are going to end up by getting much of israel destroyed, including a good bit of its industrial capacity, its oil and gas facilities, and most of its ports and airports; Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 20 2024 23:18 utc | 152 Posted by: Tichy | Oct 20 2024 21:09 utc | 112 Posted by: Badjoke | Oct 20 2024 23:21 utc | 153 I have this odd feeling that won’t go away. The reason Israel is delaying is that they are trying to organize a terrorist attack in Iran. Where that so it would be a decapitation strike. Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 20 2024 23:25 utc | 154 jr | Oct 20 2024 22:59 utc Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 20 2024 23:40 utc | 155 According to my sources the pager attack in Lebanon is also called Operation Penis Storm because it cut their balls off. Not so sure how it is going to work out with the virgins but this is just one of a series of military setbacks the terrorists of Hezbollah and Hamas and their supporters on MoA count as military victories. Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 20 2024 23:46 utc | 156 Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Oct 20 2024 23:40 utc | 155 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2024 23:47 utc | 157 Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 20 2024 23:25 utc | 154 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 20 2024 23:50 utc | 158 Ritter is a fucking idiot. It will take them 5-10 years to make a bomb…
Unlike Lindsay, Ritter can cite expert testimony. Ali-Akbar Salehi of the AEC is another funking idiot no doubt. To any clowns besides Lindsay who come here to portray nuclear escalation as ignorant doomerism, I have only one question: Are you absolutely sure about that — or only, say, 67% percent sure that we’re not about to blow up the world? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2024 0:34 utc | 159 Or did they die out of the Eisenhower ? Posted by: Newbie | Oct 21 2024 0:34 utc | 160 “They don’t even have a nuclear weapons research program for God’s sake. They had one in the Iran-Iraq War but they ended it on 1990 and got rid of all the material.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 21 2024 0:46 utc | 161 I have yet to hear a substantiative refutation.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/earthquake-or-nuclear-test-whats-behind-the-mysterious-tremors-in-iran-13823282.html Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2024 0:59 utc | 162 Today Alexander Mercouris started off saying that he had been wrong yesterday when he concluded that Israel would consider that the killing of Sinwar “evened things out” (Nutanyaho words) such that Israel would take that offramp to not retaliate on Iran. However, today Mercouris said he had to reverse himself. He sees Israel’s invasion and war on Lebanon as a repeat of the previous war; however, the geopolitical situation –the supremacy of the US superpower –was a circumstance then, which does not exist today. And even then Israel did not prevail. For it to undertake another invasion of Lebanon in which the world situation is less favorable to Israel’s success is the norm of behavior for the Western powers who “never learn from their mistakes.” RE: Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2024 0:59 utc | 163 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 21 2024 2:06 utc | 164 Where o where are the voices of the doctors organized in AMA (American MEdical Association). Posted by: fanto | Oct 21 2024 2:09 utc | 165 addendum to my previous comment – Posted by: fanto | Oct 21 2024 2:15 utc | 166 “Ritter is a fucking idiot. It will take them 5-10 years to make a bomb…….” Posted by: jr | Oct 21 2024 2:28 utc | 167 But Hamas has confirmed he is dead. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/18/hamas-confirms-leader-yahya-sinwar-killed-in-combat-in-gaza-by-israeli-army Posted by: Greg | Oct 21 2024 2:29 utc | 168 Jonathon W. @2346 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 21 2024 2:30 utc | 169 “Ritter is a fucking idiot. It will take them 5-10 years to make a bomb…….” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 2:53 utc | 170 Whoever thinks Iran can’t make a bomb in a week (already having the kit ready and waiting for assembly is a “fucking idiot” himself. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 21 2024 2:59 utc | 171 Whoever thinks peace depends on Iran getting a nuke is an idiot or some other death cultist. Whoever thinks Ritter has not been wrong on most everything has not been paying attention. What does that tell you about this bar where the bar is so low that even Aristodemos thinks he is being clever? And as the lead genocidsl ogre on this forum readily admits, “Ritter knows orders more about the subject than everyone on this forum”. Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 3:13 utc | 172 @ fanto | Oct 21 2024 2:15 utc | 167 Posted by: james | Oct 21 2024 3:35 utc | 173 Arch 171 & others, Posted by: PJB | Oct 21 2024 3:36 utc | 174 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 21 2024 0:34 utc | 160 et. al. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 21 2024 3:45 utc | 175 Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 3:13 utc | 173 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 3:45 utc | 176 https://x.com/LizzMurr56/status/1847754131349336311 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 3:50 utc | 177 I’d rather give Ritter some bandwidth than a random troll called ‘Jonathan W’ with absolutely ZERO insight to contribute. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 21 2024 3:52 utc | 178 A correction/amplification to my exposing the americanistani physicians – there are now recent voices of doctors: Posted by: fanto | Oct 21 2024 3:52 utc | 179 Jonathan W 173 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 3:57 utc | 180 Larry johnson: Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2024 3:58 utc | 181 @ WMG | Oct 21 2024 3:58 utc | 182 Posted by: james | Oct 21 2024 4:15 utc | 182 Just checking on the life forms here before they are gone as we are witnessing the evolutionary process picking up speed to a level that has probably not happened since the extinction of the dinosaurs. Most of the “analysis” here is based on pure wishful thinking compounded by rationalization and romantization of defeat. I guess that wouldn’t be so hard to watch if that “wish” were not a death wish motivated by some religious convictions, if not downright lies. Not only that, even some professing atheists are happy to join, which shows just how hard it is to be a consistent atheist. The lure of obfuscation is just too strong. Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 21 2024 4:18 utc | 183 ” Ah, your other socks, Moonie/Snowleopard/Abrogard, newest ‘William Manchester’ have suddenly re-appeared, freshly laundered. lol Posted by: Moonie | Oct 21 2024 4:21 utc | 184 US military wants no war with Iran, the end period. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 21 2024 4:23 utc | 185 https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1848032621907112387 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 21 2024 4:27 utc | 186 Whiskey and karma. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 21 2024 4:30 utc | 187 What else is there to know? Posted by: ERing46Z | Oct 21 2024 5:25 utc | 188 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 2:53 utc | 171
India is not a party and signatory to the NPT. I think Pakistan is not either. So, they can have the nuclear research and build up nuclear weapons, especially in today’s hostile geopolitical environment without breaking international obligations. For North Korea, didn’t they exit the treaty in the past? Israel is not a signatory to NPT either I think. For Iran, they still have not exited the NPT. Posted by: BD | Oct 21 2024 5:38 utc | 189 Questioner Suppressed – Questions Unanswered – by Canada’s Complicit Foreign Minister Melanie Joly Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 21 2024 5:38 utc | 190 If Wikipedia can be trusted with this NPT signatory information, India, Pakistan, North Korea, Israel are not in the list. Posted by: BD | Oct 21 2024 5:46 utc | 191 Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 20 2024 21:59 utc | 132 Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Oct 21 2024 5:47 utc | 192 The signature tell of a colonizer is that he holds the oppressed to a higher moral standard than the oppressor. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 21 2024 5:47 utc | 193 More Fallout From Leak of US Intelligence on Israel Prep for Iran Attack Posted by: Passerby | Oct 21 2024 5:48 utc | 194 Hamas attacked an Israeli Merkava Mk.IV tank in the northern Gaza Strip using an unexploded American Mk82 bomb: Posted by: Autumn | Oct 21 2024 5:51 utc | 195 Posted by: WMG | Oct 21 2024 3:58 utc | 182 Posted by: BD | Oct 21 2024 5:53 utc | 196 Killing a Colonel, and Then Some – Resistance Roundup – Day 380 Posted by: Exile | Oct 21 2024 6:00 utc | 197 Funny how certain posters want to see evidence of Merkava cooking off/displaced turrets as proof of damage but has anyone seen proof of survival from RPGs posted by the Entity? Posted by: Autumn | Oct 21 2024 6:08 utc | 198 Is Sonar21 site blocked? I never had problem accessing this site. Posted by: Passerby | Oct 21 2024 6:19 utc | 199 Gaza Under Attack_🇵🇸 Posted by: Menz | Oct 21 2024 6:36 utc | 200 |
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