Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 16, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-247

A relevant tweet:

Prof Francois Balloux @BallouxFrancois – 10:13 UTC · Oct 16, 2024

Healthy adults might survive 30 days without food. Children can't, and they suffer irreversible physical and mental harm after days of starvation.
This 30 day delay is compounded by the fact that no food has reached northern Gaza in October, according to the UN.

The Associated Press @AP · 20h

BREAKING: The Biden administration warns Israel it must boost humanitarian aid into Gaza within 30 days or risk weapons funding. https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-blinken-austin..

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Re: Overland Route ?
A single container ship these days carries 4,000 containers. Try and find 4,000 trucks, 4,000 drivers, and fuel for same. Now think how trashed the little 2 land “highway” in the desert gets after 4,000 trucks bash it up.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 17 2024 18:31 utc | 201

Al manar live feed highlights from midnight until 2100 Palestine Time:
21:04 Islamic Resistance targets large IOF gatherings in Shtoula settlement with quality missiles, inflicting accurate hits: statement
21:03 Islamic Resistance targets large IOF gatherings in Kfar Giladi settlement with quality missiles, inflicting accurate hits: statement
20:45 Israeli occupation army acknowledges death of two soldiers affiliated with Igoz and Golani elite units on border with Lebanon
20:04 Ziv Medical Center in Occupied Safed: We have received 24 Israeli soldiers injured during the battles on border with Lebanon during the past 24 hours
17:44 Islamic Resistance targets an IOF gathering with a missile barrage: statement
16:52 Head of Yemen’s Ansarullah Movement Sayyed Abdul Malik Al-Houthi: Israeli enemy resorts to mass killings and assassinations when it fails in the battlefield
16:36 Hezbollah Fighters Turned the Tables on Netanyahu: MP
15:59 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters targeted a gathering of IOF soldiers for the 2nd time at the gate of the Misgav Am settlement with a rocket salvo:
15:42 Israeli occupation targets a school housing displaced in Jabalia, north of Gaza; dozens martyred and injured
15:25 Day 25 of Israeli Aggression on Lebanon: Zionist Enemy Intensifies Strikes to Mask Defeats
14:25 Hezbollah MP Fadlallah: Speaker Berri and PM Mikati are exerting efforts to reach a ceasefire, we are coordinating with Speaker Berri
14:23 Hezbollah MP Fadlallah: So far, the Israeli enemy hasn’t been able to control any border village and it’s adopting a policy of “film and run”
14:21 Hezbollah MP Fadlallah: Resistance fighters have turned the tables on Netanyahu
14:20 Hezbollah MP Hasan Fadlallah in a press conference: Netanyahu thought that by assassinating our leader and committing horrific massacres, he could impose a new Middle East
13:29 Islamic Resistance in Iraq announces drone strike targeting vital target in the occupied territories, the second operation on Thursday
13:15 Israeli warplanes strike Hanin, Beit Leef and Ramieh as artillery shells Al-Qawzah and Ramieh towns: Al-Manar correspondent in south Lebanon
13:14 Direct hits achieved as Islamic Resistance fighters shelled Israeli gathering between Kfar Kila and Adaisseh with artillery projectiles: Hezbollah statement no. 9
12:56 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters fire a salvo of rockets targeting Israeli gathering at Misgav Am gate with a salvo of rockets: statement no. 8
12:50 Islamic Resistance in Iraq Strikes Vital Targets in Occupied Palestine More..
12:33 Sirens sound in occupied Al-Ghajar over suspected drone infiltration: Israeli media
12:18 Sirens sound in Misgav Am, Margaliot in Galilee Panhandle: Hebrew media
12:17 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance target 2 Israeli Merkavas with guided missiles in Labbouneh Heights , casualties among tanks crew: statement no. 7
12:15 Islamic Resistance fighters fire a barrage of rockets targeting the Israeli settlement of Kfar Vradim: Hezbollah statement no. 6
12:13 Israeli aircraft strike Tamnine town on Lebanon’s Bekaa: Al-Manar correspondent
12:12 Haaretz: Some 50 rockets have been fired from Lebanon towards ‘Israel’ at midnight
11:00 Israeli artillery shells Al-Sabra neighborhood, south of Gaza City
10:58 Al-Manar correspondent: For the eighth time, the Islamic Resistance fighters foil Israeli attempt to advance towards Labbouneh, south of Naqoura
10:57 Al-Manar correspondent: Smoke rises as 2 Israeli Merkavas targeted in Labbouneh area
10:28 IRGC Chief Salami: Op. True Promise II was just a warning; we’ll respond painfully if ‘Israel’ attacks Iran
10:27 IRGC Chief Hossein Salami during funeral of martyred commander Abbas Nilforushan: Enemies won’t be able to achieve their goals by assassinating resistance leaders
10:14 Some 30 rockets fired from Lebanon at the Western Galilee: Israeli media
10:12 Israeli Enemy Stages Aggression on Syria’s Latakia More..
09:21 Islamic Resistance fire a salvo of rockets targeting an Israeli gathering in Barakhta Farm, in occupied Shebaa Farms: statement no. 5
09:17 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance target Israeli gathering in Shebaa Farms’ Sedana area with a barrage of rockets: statement
09:15 Israeli media: Rockets fired from Lebanon towards Haifa and Krayot
09:14 Sirens sound as rockets fired from Lebanon fall in Western Galilee: Israeli media
02:26 Hezbollah fighters strike a second Merkava tank in Labbouneh Height with a guided missile, burning it and killing or injuring all the soldiers on board: statement
02:10 Al-Manar Live Broadcast Shows Israeli Tanks Being Burnt by Hezbollah in Accordance with Sayyed Nasrallah’s Vow More..
01:23 Islamic Resistance fighters target an Israeli Merkava tank in Labbouneh Height with a guided missile, burning it and killing or injuring all the soldiers on board: statement
00:21 Israeli media: Sirens sounded in Kiryat Shmona and vicinity
00:15 Hezbollah Fighters Kill Five Israeli Soldiers in Fierce Border Clashes More..

Posted by: Exile | Oct 17 2024 18:39 utc | 202

Merkava tally
232 destroyed (plus 2)
More than 673 damaged
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2234267

Posted by: Exile | Oct 17 2024 18:41 utc | 203

If the below is the case – I see no legitimate reason why Iran cannot strike Israel again, and again – why wait until the Zionists – and their genocide enablers, such as the US, UK and Germany help them carry out a military strike on the country – for they’ll carry it out regardless.
Also with the Zionists genocide enablers – striking the capital city of Yemen with missiles – a war crime in itself if you ask me – I see no legitimate reason, why Yemeni forces shouldn’t launch a strike against Israel itself – as long as it has the weaponry to do so.
“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reportedly signed off on a list of targets that could be struck in response to Tehran’s missile strikes earlier this month.
On Thursday, an unnamed Israeli source reportedly told ABC News that Netanyahu had approved the set of targets. However, the source did not provide any specific details on the targets or whether they are strictly related to the Iranian military.
The ABC report also noted that no timeline had yet been decided for the retaliatory strikes.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 17 2024 18:50 utc | 204

Israel would do well to remember as regards deaths of Nasrallah, Haniyeh and now possibly Sinyar – that their common culture anticipates martyrdom, with the result that strategic planning always includes anticipation of the deaths of “leaders”. Thus not only are the non state actors decentralized but leadership training reaches down many layers to ensure continuity in the continuing operations. Israel would also do well to remember the recently formalized affiliation of state and non state actors as regards mutuality in mission and mutual, coordinated support toward Axis of Resistance operational goals. All of this diminishes the strategic impact of deaths such as Sinyar’s. Somehow information regarding this remarkable pact escaped mainstream news in US/UK/IS et al. but nonetheless it exists, presenting formidable coordination at among a variety of disparate players in the resistence.

Posted by: abierno | Oct 17 2024 18:56 utc | 205

@ 201 exile
E.g.
timesofisrael israel-logistics-startup-forges-overland-trade-route-to-bypass-houthi-red-sea-crisis/
ynetnews /article/r1pmwvhtn
https://www.fluentcargo.com/routes/united-arab-emirates/jordan
Although exactly how much traffic is possible I don’t know. Ynet details plans before all this started.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 17 2024 19:08 utc | 206

@ Scottindallas | Oct 17 2024 12:54 utc | 155
@ Trubind1 | Oct 17 2024 13:54 utc | 162
@ Greg Galloway | Oct 17 2024 13:55 utc | 163
This is fallback preparative narrative, contingency OpPlan activated. Sowing the field, preparing the ground.
Should Empire determine it is facing a potential direct loss/failure, due risk/benefit analysis, a threat to it’s ongoing existence/capacities/capabilities, it will abandon Israel as a matter of self preservation, as it did with The BanderaLands starting January ’24 (now enacted/imminent).
Just as they’ve done with every other expendable proxy, serially, as it ever was. Will abandon the field. Pivot, switch focus, continue …
Personally, suspect sufficient momentum commenced ~fortnight prior to 7 Oct Zionist remembrance/vigils/extreme unreality, in your face, and subsequently segueing to the unstoppable. The suppressive/oppressive/inhuman/LugenPresse narrative damn is creaking & getting ever closer to bursting. Plugging holes, is burning assets/resources/credibility/illusion of total control/dominance that cannot be recovered, becoming pointless/self defeating.
See: Killary Hinton, “We must regain Total Control of the Narrative & media, including social”. (Paraphrased, true intent)
IMV this is accelerating & building critical mass re individual populaces/nations, yet globally due ongoing momentum. The scale & scope of what’s necessary to suppress/silence/disempower/brutalize is fast approaching the impossible without removing the ‘mask’. Consequences of Empire vainly attempting such and failing ? Dissonance fracture … realization … awakening … exiting Plato’s Cave (Allegory).
See: Theatrically, V for Vendetta ?
Peace Salaam Shalom
@ Exile | Oct 17 2024 18:39 utc | 202
Highly valued updates/insights. Cheers. Prost

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 17 2024 19:35 utc | 207

Just as in Ireland with the executed 16 of 1916, Nasrallah, Haniyah and Sinyar will now become symbols of patriotic martyrdom…….
and a huge recruiting tool for a new generation of fighters………
In Ireland the executions led to a massive support upswing for the IRB/IRA, and so inevitably so too in Gaza and the West Bank and Lebanon……..
The Israeli can not kill their way out of the Palestinian issue………their trying hard, but there are tens of thousands of new recruits now in the system……..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 17 2024 20:20 utc | 208

@Jane | Oct 17 2024 0:33 utc | 94
British imperialism, Jane …
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 17 2024 4:48 utc | 118
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Thanks! I didn’t know that!! ((;-))
This dot connecting between the Brits’ deployment of the Black and Tans in Ireland and Palestine came up in a previous thread where a commenter linked to a Youtube video by an Irish fellow who presented the history of the B&Ts and and showed some vintage film footage of their activities harassing Palestinians.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 17 2024 20:21 utc | 209

Jane -209 – Yes, the Black and Tan thugs and the Brit assassination gang (the Cairo Gang) were stationed in Cairo, and their mission was to eliminate nationalist leaders in the ME.
The Cairo Gang were actually sent to Dublin from Cairo to eliminate the leaders of the Irish nationalist IRA movement.
Michael Collins’ “Twelve Apostles” squad from the Dublin Brigade was assigned to counter the threat of the Cairo Gang, and they did, killing them all on one Sunday morning.
In the end the nationalist insurgent movement is going to win, not easily or quickly but they will win…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 17 2024 20:34 utc | 210

Re: Comment No. 46
Sure, vote for Jill Stein. All that does is allows you to Virtue Signal
Ya gotta suck it up and choose the lesser of two evils
Guarantee ya, if Kackles & Tampon Timmy win, you’ll be in the Gulag next day. Maybe they’ll ask ask to walk down stairs into the Lubyanka basement. Don’t worry, you won’t feel a thing – their goons are good shots at close range

Posted by: OldFart | Oct 17 2024 20:36 utc | 211

Here is a video with background on the Black and Tans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvWoHnvImiY

Posted by: Jane | Oct 17 2024 20:42 utc | 212

Psychohistorian 97 – Exactly, 50 aid trucks per day is a drop in the bucket, especially when the starving Palestinian population requires at least 500 trucks per day of food supplies to just sustain the population (not to mention the needs of the hospitals and aid stations).
Notice that the IDF bombed a tent camp right next Al Shifa hospital again today, killing dozens of women and children…..the Israeli blood lust madness has no bounds…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 17 2024 20:43 utc | 213

Posted by: OldFart | Oct 17 2024 20:36 utc | 211
Well, at least the username is apt. The Gulag thing is especially hilarious, not only completely divorced from reality but also shows the internalized Russophobia/reflexive, unthinking anti-communist hysteria that is par for the course for Americans of a certain age.
We’ve already had a Trump presidency. Anyone paying attention knows that both parties are in lockstep in foreign policy. The blob is going to make the decisions and the Trump will carry them out just as Kamala will, and just as he did last time.

Posted by: Gengar | Oct 17 2024 20:46 utc | 214

RIP Yehya. Your dreams will be realised.
Exile might have already done this, current Merkava tally for Hezb’Allah in Lebanon is 17.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 17 2024 20:47 utc | 215

@Exile | Oct 17 2024 18:39 utc | 202
Yes. Al Manar a useful source. Ta for updates.
Like that “film and run” from Fadlallah- did think Daniel Haggari was looking a bit peaky recently – must be the heat – the poor dear!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 17 2024 21:00 utc | 216

Hamas has not reacted to Zionist claims that today they killed Yahya Sinwar in Gaza.
At the moment, it looks grim.
Biden and Harris are thrilled:
“I will be speaking soon with Prime Minister Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders to congratulate them, to discuss the pathway for bringing the hostages home to their families, and for ending this war once and for all,” Biden said.
Speaking on the sidelines of campaign events for her 2024 presidential campaign in Milwaukee, Harris reinforced the point.
“This moment gives us an opportunity to finally end the war in Gaza,” Harris said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-harris-say-hamas-leaders-death-can-help-end-gaza-war-2024-10-17/
If Sinwar was really killed, US/Israel do not understand that their problem will be bigger. Much bigger.

Posted by: JB | Oct 17 2024 21:07 utc | 217

@Jane | Oct 17 2024 20:21 utc | 209
Oh! I could tell you stories Jane.
Guerrilla warfare is how Ireland fought/fights Empire.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 17 2024 21:13 utc | 218

Hamas has not reacted to Zionist claims that today they killed Yahya Sinwar in Gaza.
At the moment, it looks grim. Biden and Harris are thrilled:
@# 217
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If it is true, then a mighty freedom fighter has died, but his legend will live on to haunt Zionist Israel for as long as it exists. History will look at Yahya Sinwar as it does Ho Chi Minh today: With respect.
On the other hand, history will view Benjamin Netanyahu, with the same disgust as the genocidal monster Adolf Hitler; they both sold their souls for power only to be dammed by the good people of the earth.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 17 2024 21:36 utc | 219

Just read that Clueless Harris is “celebrating”. the assassination of the Hamas leader… how low can they go? Of course no doubt P. Theil aka Palantir and the Lavender Lad, is celebrating too – but silently with his Vance, Musky, Trumpy minions.
Still amazing to read the mindless babbling about the alleged return of “hostages.” If Izzyhell really cared about “hostages” this would have been over long ago. Rabid racist thugs run amok.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 17 2024 21:40 utc | 220

Anyone who thinks that the death of Sinwar will end the Gaza war, and Lebanese War, and the West Bank War is completely delusional…….
And did not Joementia Biden and Kamyhoe Harris just say exactly that…………

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 17 2024 21:44 utc | 221

Hamas has not reacted to Zionist claims that today they killed Yahya Sinwar in Gaza.
At the moment, it looks grim.
Biden and Harris are thrilled:
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By the way JB @ 217, were there no comments for Trump about the death of Yahya Sinwar in Gaza. I am sure that he is also “thrilled” as well. That is the kind of assholes who run America, and always have.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 17 2024 21:45 utc | 222

After a frank assessment of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ unimpressive career up to now, absolutely stellar praise for his latest, from Hamid Dabashi:

His new book, The Message, is his deliverance from error, as it were, his version of al-Ghazali’s classic al-Munkidh min al-Dalal/Deliverance from Darkness, published nearly 1000 years ago.
Imagine that! A young African American writer publishes a book that reminds me, a Muslim, of the autobiographical masterpiece of a towering Muslim philosopher mystic. This should mean more to him than any Pulitzer or Booker.
But Coates’s visit to Palestine for just 10 days is reminiscent of another even closer Muslim to his home and habitat when Malcolm X visited Gaza in September 1964.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-ta-nehisi-coates-broke-free-zionism

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 17 2024 21:45 utc | 223

The westerners are reporting that Sinwar’s death is the beginning of the end for the resistance. It boggles the mind to think that they really believe that their opponents are going to captiulate all of a sudden. Or is this some kind of b.s. to get people in the west to feel good about something that is clearly not gonna end anytime soon? The dirtbag Netanhayu has said the war doesn’t end with Sinwar’s death. No body is stopping this bloodthirsty state from wiping away the Palestinians as part of their greater Israel project. I mean, WTF? BTW, the following is a nice summary primer for those still wondering aloud:
Greater Israel Project
In general, I’m sick of all of this b.s. lying and blatant denialism. Enough. Have people gone insane?

Posted by: CrazyTrain | Oct 17 2024 22:13 utc | 224

Ok, more along the same lines:
Killing will throw Hamas into disarray and give encouragement to Israeli military and political officials
The allegation that Hamas will somehow collapse from within is ridiculous. These guys are gonna continue to resist. Their successors are already known….or do these people know something we don’t?

Posted by: CrazyTrain | Oct 17 2024 22:17 utc | 225

As it is being reported, not confirmed by Hamas as far as I know:
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma, specialist and follower of Hebrew affairs
“The sequence of events leading up to Sinwar’s assassination:
Yesterday, Wednesday, at 10:00 a.m., a soldier in the 450th Battalion identified suspicious persons in the building and opened fire on them. At approximately 3:00 p.m., a drone entered the building and spotted three persons passing between the floors. Two persons who were later identified as Sinwar’s guards advanced, including his personal aide who was confirmed dead. They were shot at. Two others who were in the area fled to another floor. Sinwar fled to the second floor of a neighboring building. A shell and two hand grenades were fired at him. The drone spotted a wounded person wearing a cloak throwing a stick at the drone to bring it down. The soldiers fired a shell at him. The next day, the soldiers entered the area and identified Sinwar’s body. ”

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 17 2024 22:24 utc | 226

Al Manar:
Hezbollah Military Command Announces Moving to an Escalated Phase of Battle with Israeli Enemy
28 mins ago October 18, 2024
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2235642
It’s Friday morning. New day. Onward…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 17 2024 22:30 utc | 227

The westerners are reporting that Sinwar’s death is the beginning of the end for the resistance; disarray in Hamas…
“The westerners” don’t understand the concept or resistance despite historical and current reality.
“The westerners” were saying the same thing about Hezbollah, after it lost its leader and commanders. And Israel attacked Lebanon.
Hezbollah has this to convey today, excerpt:
Resistance Operations Room:
-Our fighters have detected the death of around 55 and the wounding of 500 Israeli occupation officers and soldiers.
-Our fighters have also recorded the destruction of 20 Merkava tanks, 4 military bulldozers, an armored vehicle, and an armored personnel carrier.
-Based on the directives of the Resistance leadership, we announce the transition to a new and escalatory phase in the confrontation with the enemy.
-New phase of the confrontation will be revealed through the developments and events of the coming days.
Until Hamas informs the public either way, Sinwar is not dead.
The Israeli’s have killed him a number of times before.
In any case, Sinwar will never die, just like Haniyeh, Nasrallah and General Soleimani.

Posted by: JB | Oct 17 2024 22:33 utc | 228

While Biden is saying ceasefire (yeah, right), Netanyahu is bombing the north and south of the Gaza Strip. As in, right now. Also he just warned more people in various areas in Lebanon, including Beirut, to evacuate because they are going to bomb there again.
He’s not going to quit and he openly said so today. He wants the US to help Israel with Iran. To me, it doesn’t make any sense for him to wait until after the election. He’s already got US arms and troops – has had US troops there since at least the building of the “aid pier” fiasco, and American mercenaries since the beginning. If he continues on the path he has clearly charted out, once he bombs Iran and kicks off that part, the US is going to stay the course with this whack-job until the last person on earth is dead, no matter which cretin the US elects. Does anyone really think either Harris or Trump would end an on-going war where the US is “defending” Israel? Not a chance.
Netanyahu knows he can get us tangled up in his mess and he really, really likes killing people. As, of course, so do the American neocons.
All the problems we humans need to be working on together, and we’ve got vicious scum leading most countries on earth.
“The best people on earth being slaughtered by the worst people on earth while the rest of the earth just watches.” – Low Key on Gaza.

Posted by: teri | Oct 17 2024 22:41 utc | 229

@ Exile:
1 hour ago, i.e.; 6:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time in US:
In a statement on Telegram, Hezbollah said that it killed around 55 Israeli soldiers amid the current fighting inside Lebanon.
The Lebanese movement added that it wounded a further 500 soldiers, and destroyed 20 Merkava tanks, four bulldozers. Hezbollah said it also downed two Hermes drones.
The Israeli military has not commented on the death toll claimed by Hezbollah.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/hezbollah-claims-it-killed-55-israeli-soldiers-destroyed-20-tanks?nid=402086&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=534856

Posted by: teri | Oct 17 2024 22:49 utc | 230

CrazyTrain 225
The Garbageian won’t get my 12p.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2024 22:56 utc | 231

Notice the use of the past tense in this. Egyptian sell-outs who have done nothing to help Palestinians at all. This is the highest seat of learning in the Sunni Islamic world? Sinwar might be dead, but I don’t think Hamas surrendered yet.
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Al-Azhar, the highest seat of learning in the Sunni Islamic world based out of Cairo, released a statement mourning the Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza.
“Al-Azhar affirms that the martyrs of the ‘Palestinian resistance’ were true resisters who terrified their enemy and instilled fear and terror in their hearts. They were not terrorists, as the enemy falsely and deceitfully tries to portray them,” the institution said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/al-azhar-issues-statement-mourning-palestinians-killed-gaza?nid=402086&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=534856
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Posted by: teri | Oct 17 2024 23:06 utc | 232

224. CrazyTrain. I also have questions. Could be off the rails, but what happened in recent 1/2 hour conversation between Biden and Nut? I just read somewhere (Israel Times?) or heard Nut say on BBC report that he considered it even between Israel & Iran. Could it possibly be a deal with Biden –Israel finishes off Gaza & Lebanon in exchange for no war with Iran? Dems will claim war escalation no longer a threat…
Awaiting news re: Sinwar. Pray he still lives and if not will mourn him.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 17 2024 23:15 utc | 233

teri 230
Inside every maniac is a terrified little boy who was brought up by a Professor of Nazism to be terrified of everything Palestinian.
Netanyahu is in a position of power in which he can now act out his brainwashed childhood traumas.
But the more he does that, the more he is trapped inside the mental prison of his father’s twisted anxieties, applying Nazism to the problem of Jewish insecurity.
My Muslim next door neighbour is the same. His dad brought him up to be terrified of the Gora, white man. Now he is doing the same to his young son . Whenever the boy hears a tiny noise from my side of the fence he starts screaming for his mum.
Netanyahu is fighting his own inner demons.
Biden is fighting his own childhood demons.
Trump and Harris would be described in the Godpels as Legion, they have so many inner demons rotating wildly inside their souls.
Very little force has so far been applied to these terrified people, who are desperately. Plac seeking love and attention. I’m not even sure that force would solve anything. They have been brought up by madmen. Pity them.
Catch them and place them in a secure asylum.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2024 23:25 utc | 234

233 cont. Demdums can’t really believe what camelhair just said about Sinwar– they are wildly machinating…

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 17 2024 23:27 utc | 235

Lavieja 235
More to the point, what kind of people put up these whirlwinds of demons as stooges of Political power. All of them, from Starmer to Charles 3, from slavetrader Cuntrilla to Joseph Stalin-Biden.
Mad people must obviously be easier to control than those with working , coherent , human instincts. On the £ 20 notes the artist has managed to make our king look kinda human. Starter Starmer looks absolutely petrified all the time.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 17 2024 23:40 utc | 236

Posted by: CrazyTrain | Oct 17 2024 22:17 utc | 225 “Their successors are already known…”
Who is the successor to Sinwar in Gaza that is already known?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 17 2024 23:44 utc | 237

I have a hard time understanding. How can peoples heart not break about Gaza? How can people not experience revulsion at the standing ovations?
The people who are upset at Gaza dont care at all about Ukraine. The silver spoon woke.
If your a boomer it doesnt matter. You are guilty by default. Putin trump all guilty by default. Kind of the whitey must pay crowd here. Gaza is bad because brown people are genocided. Putins whitey hordes dieing is just fine. Ukraine is boomers getting theres. Boomers kill brown people so Israel is boomers.
Then you got hillbillys like me. Most hillbillys are ok with Gaza. The viewpoint is the world is a big prison. Whites team with Latinos to have a fighting chance. Israel is a gang member and you stick by your gang. The Judao Christian team against the Muslim hordes. One big coyote hunt. Better them then us. You stick by your gang because the alternative is the worst of both worlds.
The hillbillys are largly ok with Ukraine. USA USA USA. You know those Russians… Always up to somthing. Like Boris and Natasha in bullwinkle. Christians dieing not cool Jesus wouldnt dig that so Ukraine isnt 100% cool like Palestine but… You know those Russians… The other team. You cant be concerned about the other team.
The way I see it is none of this is OK. It wouldnt be OK here and its not OK there. Where are peoples hearts? If you condone it there it will get around to here. Genocide is a attack on all humanity. It supersedes all other issues. It must not be condoned. South africa was condemed for nothing like this. Is it as bad as the goose steppers? Damn close IMO.
Pick your poison in the election. Pick your genocide. Ukraine or Palestine.
Thats what this fat old man thinks. I will vote Stein and try to keep my head down. IMO this place is gonna blow. Prison planet gang rules. And when it blows they will clamp down like a 100 ton press pushing a bearing sleeve.
Women and children are off limits. Is that really that hard to understand whatever your gang affiliation? Not OK is not OK. If you let this shit slide you are shit. You become shit. The world becomes shit.

Posted by: ItsgonnaBLOW | Oct 17 2024 23:44 utc | 238

236 Giyane. True — Starmer looks continually mindblown. How can he have any left?

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 17 2024 23:49 utc | 239

The Americans – President’s office, State Department, Pentagon – seem to be under the impression the receiver caught the Hail Mary pass, the batter down to the last strike hit in the winning run, the calvary came around the bend at the last moment… they have already declared the Gaza war over, that all contradictions have been resolved, all the world’s problems have been solved…
The projection of such a wish fulfillment is a bit too obvious, and with that reveal the fact the Americans – the Biden administration – had found themselves deep in an intractable situation is rather clear. They likely remain under the impression that Hamas will now surrender, that Gaza will now be run by the Palestine Authority, that UNSC 1701 will be implemented with a full Hezbollah retreat behind Litani River, a new Lebanese government friendly to US and Israel will be installed, and normalization with Gulf States and Saudis and Israel will be signed by the end of the year. That will be Blinken’s negotiating position when he arrives in region in a few days.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 17 2024 23:59 utc | 240

Here is Jake Sullivan on Sinwar, Iran, Ukraine, Germany, Russian frozen assets…
Bottom line: the US helped in the killing of Sinwar and other leaders; Sinwar was a major obstacle, now the hostages can be released and “a better day for Gaza” will come without Hamas
Excerpt:
Sullivan: ..very significant day in the Middle East, and that is that Yahya Sinwar has been taken off the battlefield. This is a murderous terrorist responsible for the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. He has a lot of blood on his hands — Israeli blood, American blood, Palestinian blood — and the world is better now that he’s gone.
President Biden has just put out a written statement sharing his thoughts and reactions to the death of Sinwar, and he looks forward to the opportunity soon, perhaps very shortly, to speak to Prime Minister Netanyahu to congratulate the IDF and the brave Israeli soldiers and security professionals who carried out the operation that killed Sinwar but also to talk about the way forward, because Sinwar was a massive obstacle to peace and the day after in Gaza. And now that that obstacle has been removed, President Biden looks forward to talking to Prime Minister Netanyahu about how we secure the return of the hostages, an end to the war, and a move to the day after in Gaza — a Gaza where Hamas is no longer in power or control.
So they’ll have the opportunity to have an initial conversation about that, but this truly is an opportunity we need to seize together to bring about a better day for the people of Gaza, the people of Israel, the people of the whole region. And the United States is committed to doing everything in our power to help contribute to that.
https://www.miragenews.com/press-gaggle-jean-pierre-sullivan-en-route-to-1339549/

Posted by: JB | Oct 18 2024 0:01 utc | 241

I did see a 1 min video showing the queues of trucks waiting to cross the Jordanian/Palestine border, this was before that former police officer/truck driver rammed one of the checkpoints.
I am surprised that more attacks are not taking place here.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 18 2024 0:08 utc | 242

TEL AVIV, October 18. /TASS/. Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz has confirmed that Israeli forces killed Yahya Sinwar, head of the political bureau of the Palestinian movement Hamas.
“Yahya Sinwar, responsible for the massacre and atrocities of October 7, was eliminated today by IDF (Israel Defense Forces) soldiers,” he said in a statement on the X social media platform.
According to Katz, “Sinwar’s elimination opens the door for the immediate release of the hostages and paves the way for the end of Hamas’ rule and a new reality in Gaza.” The top Israeli diplomat described Sinwar’s killing as “a major military and moral achievement for Israel and a victory for the entire free world against the axis of radical Islam led by Iran.”
“Israel now expects the backing and support of the free world,” Katz added.

Posted by: JB | Oct 18 2024 0:13 utc | 243

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 17 2024 23:44 utc | 237
Khaled Mashal is Yahya Sinwar’s likely successor, he is currently in Turkey.

Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 0:15 utc | 244

238 ItsgonnaBLOW. “…none of this is OK. It wouldnt be OK here and its not OK there. Where are peoples hearts? If you condone it there it will get around to here. Genocide is a attack on all humanity. It supersedes all other issues. It must not be condoned.”
DITTO!

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 18 2024 0:17 utc | 245

https://x.com/eyesonsouth1/status/1847039732737626352?s=46
“He’s going to say, ‘This is the victory photo and the end of the battle, we’ve assassinated Sinwar, now the battle is over.’ He wants a victory image? I am ready…..They can take the decision to assassinate me right now…I won’t bat an eye, be my guest.”
-Sinwar in 2021
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1847016808693256217?s=46
He is right that his death will be a victory photo. The Zionists Nazis are crowing about his death, but after a year of the media stating he was fat, dumb, and happy, living deep underground with hostage red slaves while getting rich off aid, the final images of Sinwar are of a hero fighting for his people. Having had his arm blown off by a tank round, he nevertheless repels two IOF soldiers who attempt to enter the building. In a final act of defiance, we see Sinwar, wearing his people’s keffiyah, hurl a piece of wood at the IOF drone. The cowards use more tank rounds to finish of this one-armed man their infantry are too scared to face.
It is indeed a victory photo, but not in the way the Zionists think.

Posted by: Gengar | Oct 18 2024 0:20 utc | 246

Dr Andreas Krieg
@andreas_krieg
“Decapitation rarely works with networked organizations such as #Hamas. Resistance will continue. More so, without a central hub of engagement who will mediators in Egypt and Qatar negotiate with to get hostages released?” #Sinwar
https://x.com/andreas_krieg/status/1846957898829910244

Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 0:21 utc | 247

War Intel
@warintel4u
I am 59 years old, and I would rather die by fighting than from Corona, a stroke, or a heart attack.
– Yahya Sinwar
https://x.com/warintel4u/status/1846923542622871612

Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 0:23 utc | 248

Posted by: Gengar | Oct 18 2024 0:20 utc | 246
“‘Red’ slaves” is an obvious typo in my previous post, given the Oct. 7 mass rape hoax I trust you can see what I meant.

Posted by: Gengar | Oct 18 2024 0:23 utc | 249

Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
INFORMATION: Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was found above ground, wearing a combat vest and with an AK by his side, alongside two bodyguards.
He was not hiding in a tunnel or among civilians; instead, he was with his fighters at the front line against the IDF.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1846911674248306891

Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 0:26 utc | 250

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
Daniel Levy: “Those who are suggesting that this will be a mission accomplished moment that will somehow lead us to a ceasefire havn’t been paying attention… Netanyahu isn’t at war with Sinwar or Hamas. Israel is at war with the Palestinian people”
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1846977960059781350

Posted by: Menz | Oct 18 2024 0:29 utc | 251

#202 re. ‘Ziv’ Medical Center
“The ‘Ziv’ Medical Center … was established in 1910, by Edmond Jamed de Rothschild”
https://www.nbn.org.il/medex-hospitals/ziv-medical-center/

Posted by: Matt Matt Bo Batt | Oct 18 2024 0:35 utc | 252

Hum. The mangled unidentifiable corpse, next to the identification cards and the IDF DNA confirmation, with entire EU/US doing a victory dance and proclaiming mission accomplished. Zero announcement in PressTV.ir and elsewhere, all sounds a bit Hollywood to me.
https://www.rt.com/news/605885-video-sinwar-hamas-death/
“A reporter with Israel’s Channel 12 posted photos of the items found on Sinwar’s body. Among them were mints, money, a lighter, a Kalashnikov rifle, and an employee ID for the The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA).”
Look at post of pics by Amit Segal, and of course, can’t miss an opportunity to throw an UNRWA card association in with a “master mind terrorist” in the mix.
I’ll do a think some more on all of it.
Sort of wondering if he wasn’t captured a while ago.
Anyways, no response so far from any resistance group or Iran’s PressTV.
Wonder if they’ll be one.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 18 2024 0:40 utc | 253

244 Menz: “Khaled Mashal is Yahya Sinwar’s likely successor, he is currently in Turkey.”
From Israel Times:
Khaled Mashal… encouraged Palestinians and supporters of the Palestinian cause to engage in “actual resistance against the Zionist entity.”
….The war with Israel in Gaza as well as the frequent IDF raids against Palestinian terror entities (Israel Times references Sky news) in the West Bank, could “only be addressed by open conflict,” Mashaal was quoted as having said. “They are fighting us with open conflict, and we are confronting them with open conflict.”
“The enemy has opened the conflict on all fronts, seeking us all, whether we fight or not,” he said, appearing to refer to the assassination of former Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran on July 31.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 18 2024 0:47 utc | 254

RE: Posted by: jayc | Oct 17 2024 23:59 utc | 240
Sounds like a plan…
A lot can happen in a few days though.
If Blinken wants that victory lap, be a good idea to arrive in next few hours.
Houthis have score to settle.
Egypt’s MB might not be happy about announcement of Sinwar.
Just a thought.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 18 2024 0:51 utc | 255

Trubind 153. One report said the UNRWA employee ID was under a different name, that of someone currently in Egypt, as I remember.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 18 2024 0:55 utc | 256

Al Manar has a posting up describing the works of Hezbollah in the past week and ends with

Based on the directives of the Resistance Command, the Operations Room of the Islamic Resistance announces a transition to a new and escalatory phase in the confrontation with the Israeli enemy, which will be reflected in the developments and events of the coming days.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 18 2024 1:06 utc | 257

Yahya Sinwar got a better end than most of us will see.
He died free, on his own terms and on his feet.
The rest of us are being slowly, willingly, euthanased away.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 1:12 utc | 258

I think the use of B-2 bombers against the Houthi is a trial run for an attack on Iran.
Nothing else could explain this colossal overkill.
Unless they’ve run out of f-16s …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 1:18 utc | 259

RE: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 1:18 utc | 259
Hard to say. Seems they would never make it that far with a Nation state that had an actual effective A/D system.
Guessing they used the B-2s for the exact purpose they stated. They “overkill” because they can. Because it feeds their supremest mindsets. But I agree, anything is possible with Iran.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 18 2024 1:32 utc | 260

231
Notice the use of the past tense in this. Egyptian sell-outs who have done nothing to help Palestinians at all. This is the highest seat of learning in the Sunni Islamic world? Sinwar might be dead, but I don’t think Hamas surrendered yet.
Posted by: teri | Oct 17 2024 23:06 utc | 232
Egyptians have made themselves dependent on food aid from the US even as the US funds Zionist violence against their fellow Arabs. The Egyptian military is reduced to defending Israel from their fellow Arabs using the intentionally minimal military aid the US gives them for that purpose only.
So much for Nasser’s Arab Nationalism.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 18 2024 2:04 utc | 261

I found it notable that in the released drone video claiming to be of Sinwar’s last minutes, he threw an object at the hovering drone and the drone videofeed tracked the object’s movement instead of remaining still. Anybody have any thoughts on that?

Posted by: reante | Oct 18 2024 2:11 utc | 262

The Radwan Has Entered the Building – Resistance Roundup – Day 377
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/the-radwan-has-entered-the-building-resistance-roundup-day-377/
Merkava Tally
234 Destroyed plus 4 (!)
More than 673 damaged

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 2:39 utc | 263

“The significance of showing Yahya al-Sinwar killed in a house, rather than hiding in a tunnel, while wearing his military fatigues and apparently engaged in the fight, cannot be overstated….”
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1846956616333381951
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
The significance of showing Yahya al-Sinwar killed in a house, rather than hiding in a tunnel, while wearing his military fatigues and apparently engaged in the fight, cannot be overstated. Such an image portrays al-Sinwar as a leader who remained on the battlefield until the end, not as someone who was merely hiding underground, as many would expect. It strengthens the narrative that he was committed to resisting Israeli occupation forces up close, reinforcing his status as a dedicated leader among his people.
For Israel, and particularly for Netanyahu, the leak of such an image by the military (angry with Netanyahu), especially when it bypassed the official chain of command, undermines any potential political or symbolic victory that his death might have brought. Instead of being portrayed as a fugitive hiding in fear, al-Sinwar’s image as a fighter in military attire could rally Hamas supporters and boost the morale of the resistance, complicating Israel’s narrative of victory.
Moreover, the unofficial leak by soldiers reveals cracks in the discipline and information control within the Israeli military, potentially embarrassing the Israeli political leadership by spoiling the intended messaging.
The perception of al-Sinwar as a martyr fighting to the last moment destroys the psychological impact Israel political leadership may have hoped to achieve through his elimination.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 2:41 utc | 264

Re: IDF KIA/WIA ?
The 55 KIA and 500 WIA reported by the Lebanese since 1.Oct seems a little conservative given that the IDF has been throwing unit after unit into attacking a fortress with nil success.
Do not forget that Al-Qassem is mauling the IDF in Gaza at same time. For example Last week, Al-Qassem destroyed an entire IDF company in thin skinned vehicles.
At the current run rate – the IDF will suffer close to 3,000 KIA/WIA in October.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 2:46 utc | 265

Reuters is getting the message as well
Hezbollah says it will escalate war with Israel after Hamas leader killed

Lebanon’s Hezbollah militant group said on Friday it was moving to a new and escalating phase in its war against Israel while Iran said “the spirit of resistance will be strengthened” after the killing of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

I expect Hezbollah will be joined in their escalation by Houthi’s and Syria and, and, and the Shia and Sunni might just come together to fight Occupied Palestine and its backers.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 18 2024 2:53 utc | 266

“….the Islamic Resistance Operations Room officially announces the transition to a new and escalating phase in the confrontation with the Israeli enemy…”
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1846771108759867757
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel’s home front is still supporting the killing in #Gaza and #Lebanon, despite being hit in recent days. A few hits can have a magical effect, but at the moment the majority of this far-right society supports war and crimes. @Netanyahu hopes hitting #Iran will make him more popular. We need to see two elements:
How strong will Iran’s response be?
How many hits will Hezbollah inflict on the invaders on the battlefield and on the home front with its rockets?
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11180
Middle East Spectator
— ❗️ 🇱🇧 Full statement by the Operations Room of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon:
….5. Enemy losses
The enemy’s losses, according to what the Islamic Resistance fighters monitored, amount to about 55 dead and more than 500 wounded from the officers and soldiers of the Israeli enemy army, in addition to the destruction of 20 Merkava tanks, the destruction of 4 military bulldozers, an armored vehicle and an armored personnel carrier, in addition to the downing of two ‘Hermes-450′ drones. This toll does not include the losses of the Israeli enemy in military bases and barracks along the border or inside occupied Palestine.
Transition towards escalation
Based on the directives of the resistance leadership, the Islamic Resistance Operations Room officially announces the transition to a new and escalating phase in the confrontation with the Israeli enemy, which will be discussed and witnessed in the events of the coming days.’

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 3:18 utc | 267

I did see a 1 min video showing the queues of trucks waiting to cross the Jordanian/Palestine border,
Posted by: Suresh | Oct 18 2024 0:08 utc | 242
We discussed that weeks ago. The terrain was not that of the border, and some of the loads were of building materials, not even in shipping containers, unlikely for such a highly valuable convoy. As exile says, one ship can hold 4000 containers. Need a lot of convoys, and lines of convoys will become obvious pretty soon to the local pop. A kalashnikov, which they all have, can easily shoot out the tyres. Israel wants you to believe it’s happening, as it would prove the Gulf states don’t care about Palestine. As ornot says they announced the plan in advance, and evidently that’s where it remained, a talking point, much like the plan to build a second Suez canal over the top of a mountain from Gaza to Eilat. That it’s an absurd project doesn’t matter, it’s just there to confuse you.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 18 2024 3:24 utc | 268

Re: Ship Traffic ?
As per AIS live tracker
Haifa – busy
Ashdod – very busy
Eilat – 1 sailboat other dead
Suez Canal Approached – busy as always
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:34.3/centery:30.9/zoom:6

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 3:32 utc | 269

The end of the Hamas leader seems a perhaps even more inexplicable redo of the end of Saddam Hussein. To wit, the moment Hussein perceives that the intent of the US is to utterly destroy Iraqi society he should have either surrendered or turned himself over to Hague to stand trial and argue his case or driven a tank over to the Iranian border and died a “martyr.” Ditto for Sinwar, the moment it becomes obvious the US and Israel will use Oct 7 to “twist” his original intent in planning said operation in order to justify the entire destruction of Gaza and its people he should have turned himself over to the Hague by way of the UN and argued his case and the true cause and intent behind Oct 7 or driven himself in the direction of the Israeli Gaza fence and become a “martyr” before the genocide started, potentially robbing Israel of its casus belli momentum. Instead we are confronted by an Orwellian situation where a freedom fighter’s miscalculation was so astounding that it resulted in the destruction of all he ostensibly sought to defend. This guy is certainly no Mao or Stalin, he didn’t stop the fascist colonizers, rather he gave them the casus belli gratis that the fascists were looking for and the fascists got their wish: they’ve destroyed not only the resistance, but half of what remained of Palestinian material society in Palestine!

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 18 2024 4:02 utc | 270

“If you are silent about your pain, they’ll kill you and say you enjoyed it.”- Zora Neale Hurston, 1891-1960. black american writer, anthropologist, folklorist and documentary filmmaker
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1846933800741187960
Lord Bebo @MyLordBebo
🇵🇸🇮🇱 “Does the world expect us to be well-behaved victims while we are getting killed?
For us to be slaughtered without making a noise?”
— Hamas Leader Yahya Sinwar

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 4:06 utc | 271

The cowards use more tank rounds to finish of this one-armed man their infantry are too scared to face.
@ Gengar | Oct 18 2024 0:20 utc | 246

The cowards will come to sorely regret having released footage of Sinwar’s last moments. As when they carved a pit in Dahiya with dozens of bunker-busters to kill Nasrallah, shards of fugitive narrative are blasted into collective consciousness, transforming the target from a mere enemy to an awesome legend.
Considering a great martyr, our traditional western consolation rest in peace feels terribly inappropriate. Yahya Sinwar’s work is only starting, now that he’s beyond us.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 18 2024 4:42 utc | 272

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 18 2024 4:42 utc | 271
Apparently it was totally an accident.
https://open.substack.com/pub/kenklippenstein/p/with-sinwar-dead-biden-reveals-us

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 18 2024 5:11 utc | 273

much like the plan to build a second Suez canal over the top of a mountain from Gaza to Eilat. That it’s an absurd project doesn’t matter, it’s just there to confuse you.
Posted by: laguerre | Oct 18 2024 3:24 utc | 267
Yup that whole canal deal was a bad joke. Just like the offshore gas play.

Posted by: reante | Oct 18 2024 5:20 utc | 274

Re: Merkava Tally
I need help from a Barfly that understands nuances of Arabic language. There are some ambiguities in the Lebanese reports that I believe are due to translation muddle. Please clarify…..
Al-Qassem uses the terms “destroyed” or “attacked” when describing strikes on Merkavas. I always treat “attacked” as damaged/disabled. Seems reasonable and accurate.
On the other hand – Hezbollah reports a Merkava strike as “burning” – see the ambiguity ? Typical report in English ;

23:13 Islamic Resistance targeted two Mekava tanks in Jal Al-Deir near Avivim settlement off the Lebanese town of Maroun Al-Ras with guided missiles, burning both of them and killing or injuring all the soldiers on board

Question – can someone go to the original Arabic and determine if “burning” means “destroyed” “cooking-off” or simply “damaged” ?
This would be a big help in making the Merkava tally more credible.
Thank you !

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 5:22 utc | 275

Was doing research re the details re the US B2 strikes on Ansar Allah, and came across this, a resonable summary of events with embedded links, worth reading:
US long-range B-2 stealth bombers target underground bunkers of Yemen’s Houthi rebels

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military unleashed B-2 stealth bombers to target underground bunkers used by Yemen’s Houthi rebels early Thursday, a major escalation in the American response to the rebels’ attacks on Mideast shipping lanes that appeared to be a warning to Iran as well.
While it wasn’t immediately clear how much damage the strikes caused, the attack appeared to be the first use of the B-2 in combat in years and the first time the flying wing targeted sites in Yemen.
In announcing the strikes against the Houthis, who have been attacking ships for months in the Red Sea corridor over the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin made a point to offer a warning likely heard in Tehran as well.
“This was a unique demonstration of the United States’ ability to target facilities that our adversaries seek to keep out of reach, no matter how deeply buried underground, hardened or fortified,” Austin said.
Iran, the Houthis’ main benefactor, has targeted Israel with ballistic missile attacks twice over the past year. The B-2 would be used in any American attack on hardened Iranian nuclear facilities like Natanz or Fordo given it is the only aircraft in service that can drop the GBU-57, known as the “Massive Ordnance Penetrator.”

The GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) is a precision-guided, 30,000-pound (14,000 kg) “bunker buster” bomb used by the United States Air Force.[2] It is substantially larger than the deepest-penetrating bunker busters previously available, the 5,000-pound (2,300 kg) GBU-28 and GBU-37. Due to its size (6 meters length and a weight of over 12 tonnes) it can only be carried by large bombers—for instance, the B-2 Spirit
The aircraft are based at Whiteman Air Base in Missouri and typically conduct long-range strikes from there, though some B-2s were in Australia in September.

Which led to just published in AU, by thier ABC, this:
(Australian) Northern Territory air base used as staging ground for US strike on Houthi weapon stores (RAAF base Tindall)

The Department of Defence has confirmed Australia provided support for the US strikes on underground bunkers used by Yemen’s Houthi rebels “through access and overflight for US aircraft in northern Australia”.
The US said its strikes were ordered by President Joe Biden to degrade the Houthi weapons stores and send a message to “our adversaries”, which includes Iran.
An Australian official said the support was “consistent with our long-standing alliance commitment and close cooperation, demonstrating the interoperability of our militaries”.

The newspaper reported on Friday that the B-2 is the only warplane that can carry the largest class of specially built bombs that can punch through soil, rock or concrete before detonating.
It is not known whether the bombs, known as GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators or MOPs, were used in the mission.

Significance:
(1) Israel does not have the aerial practical capability/capacity to drop GBU-28/37 MOPs (2300Kg/5000Kg), nor prototype, not yet certified in US Service, GBU-57A/Bs MOPs(14,000Kg) in practice re(2), especially in sequenced precision drops, total 84,000Kg.
(2) It is known that a timed precise sequence of ~16-18 alternating probable GBU-10(MK84 PavewayII blast effect(972Kg)) bombs, & at least GBU-37 MOPs, though quite likely, prototype GBU-57A/Bs, ~85,000Kg worth, were used to to Nasrallah & leadership in Sth Beirut suburbs (Haddiyeh(?). Followed by a duplicate further decapitation strike days later re Hezbollah.
(3) This requires strategic bombers which Israel does posses. US does, both the bombers & unique ordnance & capability, as demonstrated re Yemen/Ansar Allah. OS B@ spec is lowball 18,144Kg, therefore 4, possibly 5 B2 in a flight to execute the ops, plus stealth CAP escorts.
(4) Therefore the Hezbollah decapitation strikes in Beirut, and mass non-combatant causalities were a direct result of US direct belligerence alongside Israel.
(5) As per the AP article, one or all three strikes were prepped & launched from RAAF Tindal Australia, most likely for OpSec, plausible-deniability purposes, re US direct involvement & the Stealth B2s.
(6) Therefore, AU is no longer an indirect belligerent, re Pine Gap(ISR & drone Targeting), but re the B2s, a direct belligerent.
(7) US & AU exposed as direct belligerents in War Crimes, Illegal acts of undeclared aggressive war, war crimes, and co-participants in support of Israels ‘greater Israel’ Genocide campaign.
(8) Zero doubt that AU is now little more than non-sovereign puppet vassal, a US suborned Military base/bastion as for Diego Garcia or, occupied Germany …
Couped Whitlam(’75)(PM), remorseful Fraser(PM), & aggrieved conscripted Viet vet/politician Fisher(?) would be turning in their graves …

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 5:28 utc | 276

Israel is past tense as is the NATO (NAZI) funded Ukraine.

Posted by: financial matters | Oct 18 2024 5:45 utc | 277

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 5:28 utc | 275
Well, settler states gotta band together. Just sayn.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 18 2024 5:47 utc | 278

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 18 2024 4:02 utc | 269
Oh, I don’t know about that.
Seems like the Palestinians had the choice to die slowly and invisibly; or quickly and visibly with possibly a chance of winning.
I’m glad they chose the latter.
Blaming Hamas is a mug’s game.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 18 2024 5:49 utc | 279

The leaders of the Palestinian resistance are teaching the oppressed within the oppressor nations the value of going down swinging. The story of Sinwar’s final moments is nothing short of heroic. That’s a real man, far more of a man than the people who had to use every artifice of technique they could scrounge up to defeat him.

Posted by: fnord | Oct 18 2024 5:54 utc | 280

Biden congratulates IDF on the killing of Sinwar?
And brings total disgrace to his family. Unless his ancestors favored the black n tans over the Mayo Flying Column.

Posted by: necromancer | Oct 18 2024 6:03 utc | 281

@ Outraged | Oct 18 2024 5:28 utc | 275
D’Oh! Corrections:
(1) especially in timed sequenced precision drops, total 85,000Kg.
(2) were used to assassinate Nasrallah & leadership
(3) This requires strategic bombers which Israel does NOT posses …
OS B2 spec is lowball 18,144Kg, therefore 4, possibly 5 B2 in a flight required to execute the ops, plus, necessity of, stealth CAP escorts.
(4) and mass non-combatant resultant causalities were a direct consequence of US direct belligerence alongside/in support of Israel.
@ JAB | Oct 18 2024 5:47 utc | 277
Genocides, re colonialism/creation, are the primary ties that bind the core of Empire, the 5-Eyes, together, as One. Above all other Empire vassals. As per, the Lesser Rings of Power (Tolkien).

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 6:05 utc | 282

I would be interested to see how the B2 bomber would fare against a country which possessed air defense.

Posted by: necromancer | Oct 18 2024 6:05 utc | 283

Caitlan J. has it right, israel is a monster which has been loosed upon the Middle East,
and no killing of any leadership of the axis of Resistance will stop it/the USA, or slow them down from committing ethnic cleansing, massive war crimes and heinous crimes against humanity;
much of which is indeed being recorded and archived for future war crimes tribunals
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1847033679119577534
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Sinwar’s death will have no meaningful bearing on how Hamas or Israel conduct themselves, so it’s funny to see Israel supporters puffing their chests like this was some kind of achievement.
Israel is going to keep bombing hospitals, shooting kids in the head, intentionally starving civilians, and working to steal Palestinian land just like it was doing yesterday, and Palestinians are going to keep resisting this just like they were doing yesterday.
Nothing about anything has changed. If Israel were actually killing all these people with the goal of destroying Hamas then Sinwar’s death might be significant, but Israel’s goal is not destroying Hamas.
Israel’s goal is the ethnic cleansing and annexation of Gaza. This is public knowledge at this point, and is not seriously debatable. The only victory Israel’s supporters can claim to have secured here is one of revenge, which is just empty ego fluff that only feels real to highly egocentric people

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 6:25 utc | 284

The way that USUKIS has weaponised mobiles and pagers is a crime against Humanity.
Humans are social animals.
Sinwar has been unable to communicate for many months and maybe needed to surface and look around.
I hope Netanyahu and the scions of USUKIS military institutions spend many years in solitary confinement, to learn to regret weaponising mobiles. It is the moral equivalent of just advancing an unarmed population against an army of machine guns.
It is what it is. Technology works both ways.
There are no longer any checks and balances to corporate murder. What’s the answer to this massive social problem?
This is just a stepping stone away from mass murder of nuclear war. Is it time to eliminate technology? Or is it time to say that technology MUST never again be placed in the hands of Capitalist, unaccountable corporations.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 18 2024 6:49 utc | 285

The way that USUKIS has weaponised mobiles and pagers is a crime against Humanity.
Humans are social animals.
Sinwar has been unable to communicate for many months and maybe needed to surface and look around.
I hope Netanyahu and the scions of USUKIS military institutions spend many years in solitary confinement, to learn to regret weaponising mobiles. It is the moral equivalent of just advancing an unarmed population against an army of machine guns.
It is what it is. Technology works both ways.
There are no longer any checks and balances to corporate murder. What’s the answer to this massive social problem?
This is just a stepping stone away from mass murder of nuclear war. Is it time to eliminate technology? Or is it time to say that technology MUST never again be placed in the hands of Capitalist, unaccountable corporations.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 18 2024 6:49 utc | 286

Was doing research re the details re the US B2 strikes on Ansar Allah….
RE: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 5:28 utc | 275
now listen carefully :):) – there are well over 2-3 dozen US bases and outposts scattered throughout the Middle East. I know that most of them are near total sitting ducks, with little effective air defense, in the case of a major war in the Middle East OR in case the Houthis want to some day take revenge on the US for the use of these highly vaunted B-2 bombers, and for all the many other war crimes perpetrated upon the poor people of Yemen by the Western powers.
the Houthis could well give Lloyd Austin OR the israelis, “a unique demonstration of the Houthis’ ability to target facilities”. I would imagine that there are already many USA bases in the Houthi bank of targets. And that after 10 years of Western-supported attacks, the USA and the UK don’t frighten them in the least.
Not to mention that many of those USA bases sit aside Saudi, Gatari and UAE oil production facilities/refineries etc. Loud mouth and super-aggressive Lloyd Austin is an idiot and war criminal of the highest degree. The US is always playing with fire, and then whines like a child when it gets burned.
We can now await the Houthi retaliation/s both for the recent israeli strike against them, and for this new B-2 strike by the USA.
https://apnews.com/article/us-airstrikes-yemen-houthi-rebels-israel-hamas-war-99721f7f952d66d6da27e24dc3c189c3
US long-range B-2 stealth bombers target underground bunkers of Yemen’s Houthi rebels
“…..U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin made a point to offer a warning likely heard in Tehran as well.
“This was a unique demonstration of the United States’ ability to target facilities that our adversaries seek to keep out of reach, no matter how deeply buried underground, hardened or fortified,” Austin said….”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 7:46 utc | 287

AND
https://southfront.press/u-s-b-2-stealth-bombers-attack-houthi-targets-in-yemen-videos/
U.S. B-2 Stealth Bombers Attack Houthi Targets In Yemen (Videos)
….The U.S. and the UK have carried out hundreds of strikes against Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen since January. Israel also launched two waves of strikes against civilian infrastructure in al-Hodeidah in July and September. However, the aerial campaign failed to deter the Houthis or degrade their capabilities.
The employment of B-2 bombers in the latest wave of U.S. strikes on Yemen was likely meant as a message to Iran which is currently bracing for an Israeli strike in retaliation to the October 1 missile attack…..
AND
there’s part of the Houthi leader’s speech here, but I can’t understand Arabic
https://t.me/gazaalanpa/7531
GAZA NOW IN ENGLISH
Spokesman for the Yemeni Armed Forces: Our next response to the Zionist aggression on Gaza is unimaginable 🇵🇸🔻🇾🇪

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 7:47 utc | 288

Yup that whole canal deal was a bad joke. Just like the offshore gas play.
Posted by: reante | Oct 18 2024 5:20 utc | 274
Hasbarists don’t bother whether their comments make sense or not.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 18 2024 8:08 utc | 289

@ michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 7:46 utc | 287 AND michaelj72 | Oct 18 2024 7:47 utc | 288

now listen carefully :):)

Did, didn’t ‘hear’ nothin’. Though read yer posts, didn’t learn anything new, either. :):)
Peace Salaam Shalom

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 18 2024 8:10 utc | 290

Re USA outposts.
Perhaps we should remember that the staff officer class and political elites from the parasite class do not care about their own troops. They will sacrifice vulnerable forward bases without a second thought.
The elites only care about getting their snouts in the trough via re-election.
Therefore their only vulnerability is inflation affected by oil price.
Anything else just masturbation.

Posted by: necromancer | Oct 18 2024 8:35 utc | 291

Hezbollah says it will escalate war with Israel after Hamas leader killed
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 18 2024 2:53 utc | 266
Nasrallah’s first promise at the very beginning of this war was that Hezbollah would not allow the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza to be destroyed.
It could be that the death of Sinwar (as yet unconfirmed) has brought them closer to that threshold.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 8:36 utc | 292

OldFart writes:
“Sure, vote for Jill Stein. All that does is allows you to Virtue Signal”
— absolutely right. So what? Doing it anyway.
“Ya gotta suck it up and choose the lesser of two evils”
— speak for yourself.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 18 2024 8:53 utc | 293

There is a new bad twist, if true, between Lebanon and Iran based on an interview the Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf gave to the French Le Figaro.
From Middle East Eye:
Lebanon’s Prime Minister Najib Mikati said he was “surprised” by a statement made by Iran’s parliament speaker, which said that Tehran was ready to negotiate the implementation of UN Security Council Resolution 1701 with France in order to achieve a ceasefire in Lebanon.
Mikati said the Iranian statement “is a blatant interference in Lebanese affairs and an attempt to establish an unacceptable guardianship over Lebanon”.
It is unclear what Ghalbaf actually said, from the way it has been carried by other media.
Can someone who can read the interview in Le Figaro (behind pay wall) tell us what the man actually said.
If he did say what is claimed, that is unexpected and contrary to all Iran has been saying, and the Lebanese PM reaction is justified.
Very damaging, if true.
https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/guerre-au-liban-l-iran-pret-a-negocier-avec-la-france-pour-un-cessez-le-feu-20241017

Posted by: JB | Oct 18 2024 9:06 utc | 294

Very damaging, if true.
https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/guerre-au-liban-l-iran-pret-a-negocier-avec-la-france-pour-un-cessez-le-feu-20241017
Posted by: JB | Oct 18 2024 9:06 utc | 295
Damaging how, exactly? The country is a dumpster fire and Qalabaf and his buddies are all slow boiling frogs in the Zionist pot.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 18 2024 9:31 utc | 295

272 Aleph_Null. “Yahya Sinwar’s work is only starting, now that he’s beyond us.”
I will keep this.

Posted by: Lavieja | Oct 18 2024 10:09 utc | 296

Posted by: Exile | Oct 18 2024 5:22 utc | 275
Thank you very much for your updates on resistance.It is very appreciated.
I found this with arabic text included.
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2234267
The term in arabic is ‘ihtaraqa’, derivative from the verb root ‘haraqa’ ( to burn ).
Ihtaraqa means to burn down, to be destroyed by fire…Like in ‘ihtaraket el khaima’ , the tent was burnt down, destroyed in fire….

Posted by: stranger | Oct 18 2024 11:42 utc | 297

sorry, ‘ihtaraqet, hard q, ‘ihtaraqet el dabbaba’ ( the tank was destroyed by fire ).

Posted by: stranger | Oct 18 2024 11:47 utc | 298

Ya gotta suck it up and choose the lesser of two evils
Guarantee ya, if Kackles & Tampon Timmy win, you’ll be in the Gulag next day. Maybe they’ll ask ask to walk down stairs into the Lubyanka basement. Don’t worry, you won’t feel a thing – their goons are good shots at close range
Posted by: OldFart | Oct 17 2024 20:36 utc | 211
I cannot vote for someone who supports Israel in obliterating the Palestinians to grab a bit of land and some oil rights. I won’t vote for any more wars period. I cannot and will not ignore my own moral sense that way. It would make me as transactional and inhuman as they are. That means I either vote Stein or I don’t vote.
I don’t have to “suck it up”. I don’t have to play that game. That is how we lose our integrity. Harris may put me in jail for supporting Palestine. And that stupid fucker Trump said he’d force Palestinian supporters out of the country.
They can come and get my handicapped ass for my first amendment rights and my right to vote my conscience. That’ll make for some interesting publicity. How can you cede to these misanthropes already? They are just BEGINNING the war against the US people.
I hope you aren’t one of my neighbors. Sounds like you’d sell out your own family to stay straight with the powers-that-be.

Posted by: teri | Oct 18 2024 12:42 utc | 299

@295
Middle eastern eye also claimed qaasi was under house arrest. It’s textbook fake news mate

Posted by: Meh | Oct 18 2024 13:57 utc | 300