Palestine Open Thread 2024-247
A relevant tweet:
Prof Francois Balloux @BallouxFrancois - 10:13 UTC · Oct 16, 2024Healthy adults might survive 30 days without food. Children can't, and they suffer irreversible physical and mental harm after days of starvation.
This 30 day delay is compounded by the fact that no food has reached northern Gaza in October, according to the UN.The Associated Press @AP · 20hBREAKING: The Biden administration warns Israel it must boost humanitarian aid into Gaza within 30 days or risk weapons funding. https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-blinken-austin..
News & views related to the war in Palestine ...
Posted by b on October 16, 2024 at 13:09 UTC | Permalink
next page »“ The Biden administration warns Israel it must boost humanitarian aid into Gaza within 30 days or risk weapons funding”
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Loath as I am to repeat myself:
All this means is that the Biden gang is giving the Zionazi entity 30 days to exterminate the Gaza Palestinians; failing that, it will send the Zionazis a Strongly Worded Letter.
Note that the 30-day period ends *after* the US elections.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 16 2024 13:38 utc | 2
The Biden regime has told Netanyahu that he has only thirty days left to kill everybody, so he had better gat a move on.
What is wrong with using words like “now” and “immediate”?
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 16 2024 13:39 utc | 3
It's amazing how many terminally naive leftists take "Biden's warning" at face value. The crocodile tears over Palestine are disgusting, and will contribute to a major cut of minority support for Biden/ Starmer types.
But the smuggling of food from Muslims and allied nations is why Palestine has survived, and why anyone with any integrity supports Hamas. Western "allies" of the BRICS are mostly useless, yet that won't matter as the Empire decays.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 16 2024 13:42 utc | 4
b and I must have been on the same wavelength. I have been thinking about this very headline:
“The Biden administration warns Israel it must boost humanitarian aid into Gaza within 30 days or risk weapons funding”
I was going to begin with, "How can you tell it is just before the November election (Nov 5, 2024)?"
Answer: look at the headlines.
Think about it. Some voters are reluctant to vote for the Genocidal Democratic (GD) party. The GD party is trying to mollify voters by
appearing to be humanitarians with respect to Gaza.
The GD party is giving Netanyahu 30 days. Think. In 30 days the election will be over and the GD party can then do whatever
the power elite wants. To hell with the voters, after the election they are redundant and can go pound sand.
Posted by: librul | Oct 16 2024 13:52 utc | 5
Larry Johnson suggests this is all a con-job to try to reclaim/appease Islamic votes for Kamala Harris ...
I agree.
The Zionists intend to annexe North Gaza to claim a 'win' - lower case 'w'
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 13:56 utc | 6
"Healthy adults might survive 30 days without food. Children can't, and they suffer irreversible physical and mental harm after days of starvation."
That's why mothers (and fathers that don't fight) will starve, and leave whatever they can get, to their children.
Doesn't mean it wont happen, only that people will try to avoid the impact on children as much as they can (and beyond the 30 days, twice as much is not too difficult with a minimum intake)
I also believe, particularly after the UNIFIL incident, that UN will try to force through even if it means asking volunteers to potentially martyr themselves to distribute food or to increase the outcry (and make no mistakes there will be volunteers).
May whatever deity you believe in protect them.
Posted by: Newbie | Oct 16 2024 13:56 utc | 7
Posted this on earlier thread - also relevant here:
@ b
Bringing this guy to your attention .... lovely turn of phrase ... and realist on The Resistance etc
Bullet Discipline Vs. Bullet Diarrhea
Neat use of the Ali-Foreman 'rope a dope' strategy ......
'The point of this strategy, short of dying, is tiring your opponent out. A people's army can reproduce people, but capitalist oppression must reproduce capital or collapse. Which gets expensive. Which becomes economically impossible. Which becomes environmentally impossible. The entire premise of America is that they have infinite money, infinite power, and infinite planet, but they don't. All empires must fall, all currencies become past, and all power runs out. Missile defenses made White Empire feel like a superpower, but now they're just a regular power, and waning fast. This last paroxysm of violence is in fact the end of what I call America's Long Retreat. America has invaded many places since World War II, and retreated from everyone. They have a 100% retreat record. The Americans will fuck you up, but then they will fuck off. It's just a matter of your fighters staying on the ropes, taking brutal, genocidal, blows to the body politic.'
[...] America is currently waging genocide in Palestine, proxy war against Russia, and trying to start shit with China. Meanwhile, it never had peace with North Korea, just an armistice. At some point, something's got to give. Realistically, they can only reload THAAD battery by unloading somewhere else. America is writing cheques its deindustrialized ass can't cash. It's arrogance on top of absurdity. Americans have treated missile defense like it gives them the power to be infinitely offensive, and it doesn't. They're throwing Rolexes at Casios, and the Casios are winning. As the Taliban said, you may have the watches, but we have the time. The Resistance has bullet discipline and the Empire has bullet diarrhea. Inshallah, in our lifetimes, the Resistance will win.
https://indi.ca/bullet-discipline-vs-bullet-diarrhea/
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 13:46 utc | 21
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 14:01 utc | 8
On the forthcoming U.S. “election”
Nobody; I repeat. Nobody, expects the U.S to have a free and scrupulously fair and legal election, the result of which is accepted universally by all the electorate.
The name of the game is “cheat” and the cheating by all and sundry will be epic.
“Western democratic values” will be on display to the population of the entire World, the only question is as to the exact nature of the post election chaos and insanity.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 16 2024 14:06 utc | 9
The answer to 1. It was an attack against Christian’s due to the UNIFIL troops not pulling back from the blue line of control. Pure and simple it was a war crime
Posted by: Boardindundee | Oct 16 2024 14:12 utc | 10
Aitou in northern Lebanon selected as a target by artificial intelligence?
Posted by: Gene Poole | Oct 16 2024 13:35 utc | 1
Ai-tou
Ai-tou
Ai.
As arbitrary as any other decision their 'a.i' makes ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2024 14:29 utc | 11
Irrelevant : the Yellow ribbon all Zionists wears ... it remembers me the AIDS awareness ribbon but for Zionism : mostly wore by the people at risk of catching Zionism or already sick with it.
Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 16 2024 15:00 utc | 12
Political Islam has fought for USUKIS since the breaking of Soviet power in Europe in Yugoslavia in the 80s. It's a long and miserable tale of duplicity, bigotry, rape , genocide and betrayal.
Political Islam regards the wealthy Gulf States as model, autocratic, Islamic tyrannical, and countries like Palestine as inadequately funded, inadequately theocratic, inadequately partnered, inadequately militant.
Political Islam despises Palestine as being ignorant both of Islam and of Politics.
Political Islam accepts Might is Right policies of the Neocons, and has long nestled under their wing, and served their purposes in West Asia , South Asia, East Asia, Africa and Europe.
I mention this because of the Christian consensus on MoA and the Arab popular consensus in West Asia, among Shi'a and Sunnis, in favour of Resistance against bullying by USUKIS. But our sympathy for the victims of genocide and arbitrary bombing by US bombing isn't shared by USUKIS'allies in the corrupt militias of that sect.
In fact, there is growing evidence of a shared ideology between US Zionism and Political Islam that Palestinian Islam deserves its fate, which is shared by the poodle politicians of Europe.
Otherwise, where is this famous jihadist entity hiding ? Still in pockets of Iran and Turkey? They said they would come through Iran to attack the Satanist genociders.
Nothing reported yet. Nothing going to be reported either until it's too late.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 16 2024 15:13 utc | 13
Gene Poole 1 - Yes, the IDF is using an AI program called "Lavender" to select targets in Gaza and Lebanon.
They input data on anyone with any connection to Hamas, PIJ or Hezbollah, and that could be as innocent as being employed as a Gaza civil servant. Lavender then selects the target - house, office, mosque, church, hospital, clinic, food warehouse and its then bombed.
This is in addition to drones and sniper teams that hunt down and kill anyone on the street in North Gaza, whether you are an average citizen or relief worker or medical professional....all killed on sight.
Tens of thousands of innocent Gaza and Lebanese citizens have been so selected and murdered including police officers, firefighters, nurses, doctors, pharmacists, garbage collectors, ambulance drivers, EMT's, records clerks, utility workers.......all murdered by the IDF.....
Clear and present war crimes....is the ICC cateloging these violations?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 16 2024 15:15 utc | 14
Tom Keatinge, from the Royal United Services Institute think tank, told the BBC that putting sanctions on Ben-Gvir and Smotrich would be a "significant move" aimed at sending a "major political message" to Israel. He also said there was "not a precedent" for the UK government sanctioning elements of an ally country. He added that there were "practical issues" as sanctions required "a lot of work" and that the Foreign Office's sanctions director was already "heavily overworked" due to issues related to Russia.
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Under Keith Starmer, UK "tries" to dial down the support of Israel and its rampages "just a bit". So while Prime minister and Foreign minister voice "full support", some officials (and Tom Keatinge is a His Majesty official) are encouraged to voice caution etc. or phrases that may be construed as opprobrium. Is it for internal consumption, as it is hard to see any other possible effect? About internal consumption, Starmer achieved lowest approval after 100 days in office among British prime minister since opinion polls started (that excludes Truss who did not last 100 days), so some best minds in the Kingdom work to improve it a bit.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 16 2024 15:15 utc | 15
Bastards.
Trial and Punishment to follow - Gallant having a meltdown in the knesset for being called a terrorist was hilarious- like a gangster boss threatening the other capos. They are fighting amongst themselves daily now. Bastards.
Biden Admin busy scrubbing burning people alive in tents from twatter with their MIC stooge Elon King of Mars and his rocket man diversion.
In 30 days - they’ll have lost to a crushing election defeat anyway.
I demand the Europeans nearby, the Arab countries and African countries along with China and Russia ensure a immediate delivery of aid.
A BerlIn airlift type.
Any Illegal Apartheid Entity or the imperialist wasters attempts to disrupt to be met with massive lethal force the moment they try.
River to the Sea.
Ps. Yo! Hasbarats. How does it feel to swelter in your shelter ziobabies?
Get the hell out at the first all-clear , probably best by road into Egypt now is how you’ll be able to get max luggage. Take your pets. Leave everything else.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 16 2024 15:15 utc | 16
Al Shifa Hospital: Annihilation & Resilience
"A year into the genocide in Gaza, survivors of the destruction of al-Shifa Hospital recount the tragedy."
ps - Since USrael is primarily supported and maintained through the active complicity of US presidents, and both leading candidates are rabid Zionists, no thinking, caring American should vote for either pro-genocide state candidate.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 16 2024 15:19 utc | 17
Not quite off topic...
About one hour ago, BBC interviewed the head of the Lebanese Armed Forces. I had trouble understanding him so some of my comment may be incorrect.
He was asked if the LAF will be joining the battle against the Jew-trash? He said it won't because the LAF, like the IOF, is funded by AmeriKKKa BUT the IOF is funded like a Superpower whereas the LAF are funded like a local Police Branch and lacks the weaponry to oppose Jewrael. He added that the LAF will be needed when the 'war' ends.
When BBC asked about Hezbollah, he didn't try to hide his admiration and seems to believe that Hezbollah and its regional allies will eventually beat the Jew-trash.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 16 2024 15:19 utc | 18
Israel has 30 days to implement the allowance of humanitarian aid into Gaza. So ... for the next 29 days israel will continue it's policy of genocide. On day 30, Biden is gone and either Trump or Harris will continue americas policy of aid to israel regardless.
This is just political theatre.
Posted by: rgl | Oct 16 2024 15:22 utc | 19
$17.9 B in US military aid to the IDF so they can massacre Muslims and Christians in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon, but no even one billion for humanitarian food, medical and shelter aid for the citizens under threat.
Seventeen time more genocide aid than humanitarian aid.........while Blinken-sky gives the IDF the softball pitch..........
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 16 2024 15:23 utc | 20
@11 Arch
Maybe they freshened up a spare room with lavender and installed a table and two dice.
Whatever, it's all business.
As they don't pretend to be intelligent, at least that cannot be used as an excuse. Like we need to be told no-one there is responsible.
A psy-op, the random squad .
Coming to a theater near anywhere at anytime.
"Don't call us, we'll message you instead"
Bingo at 666 this evening.
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 16 2024 15:23 utc | 21
Nobody; I repeat. Nobody, expects the U.S to have a free and scrupulously fair and legal election, the result of which is accepted universally by all the electorate.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Oct 16 2024 14:06 utc |
I would not that there are good chances for free and legal election, while "scrupulously fair" meaning is vague. Funding is quite murky (which is legal), ads insult the intelligence (which is painful for some votes), eligibility is manipulated, I do not know current complete list of nits that may be picked in November,
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 16 2024 15:29 utc | 22
Since USrael is primarily supported and maintained through the active complicity of US presidents, and both leading candidates are rabid Zionists, no thinking, caring American should vote for either pro-genocide state candidate.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 16 2024 15:19 utc | 17
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Hear, hear!
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 16 2024 15:33 utc | 23
So for the Biden admin it is just fine and dandy to provide bombs to murder innocent people, as long as they are well fed.
Words fail me. They seem to have lost their humanity.
Posted by: axw001 | Oct 16 2024 15:38 utc | 24
This is just political theatre.
Posted by: rgl | Oct 16 2024 15:22 utc | 19
Ramallah and Jewliet : a long tragedy in too many acts.
Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 16 2024 15:39 utc | 25
No one should be surprised by the IDF massacres in Gaza, the West Bank or in Lebanon, the IDF and its predecessors have been murdering innocent Palestinian Muslims and Christians and Druze since 1948, when they deliberately massacred villages in the Haifa area, in the Galilee Valley (Caperam) and in Judea, then after the massacres stated the villages had "left" and abandoned their farmland, pastures, orchards and vineyards.
So guess what....magically they became property of the "settlers", the exact same action going on today in the West Bank..........
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 16 2024 15:39 utc | 26
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 16 2024 13:38 utc | 2
Caitlin Johnstone had a whole article on the obvious election timing yesterday. It's pathetic how stupid the Biden Regime thinks people are.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2024 15:50 utc | 27
The odious US envoy to the United Nations - Thomas-Greenfield - has also used the passive tense:
"The Government of Israel has said that this is not their policy, that food and other essential supplies will not be cut off, and we will be watching to see that Israel's actions on the ground match this statement"
Is it not the case that "food and other essential supplies" have already been cut off since beginning of month?
Posted by: jayc | Oct 16 2024 15:52 utc | 28
So, after the election. That means he's lying.
If Trump wins like I expect, there will be chaos, he'll cut diplomatic staff like the last time and he'll be kissing Israeli ass for money.
If Harris wins, it's with AIPAC bucks so nothing will happen.
It's total dictator lies. They want that oil and gas no matter who they have to kill.
Posted by: Rabbit | Oct 16 2024 15:54 utc | 29
Israel has 30 days to implement the allowance of humanitarian aid into Gaza. So ... for the next 29 days israel will continue it's policy of genocide. On day 30, Biden is gone and either Trump or Harris will continue americas policy of aid to israel regardless.
This is just political theatre.
Posted by: rgl | Oct 16 2024 15:22 utc | 19
After 30 days America will give them another year to do it.
Posted by: Michael A | Oct 16 2024 15:58 utc | 30
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 16 2024 13:38 utc | 2
Caitlin Johnstone had a whole article on the obvious election timing yesterday. It's pathetic how stupid the Biden Regime thinks people are.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 16 2024 15:50 utc | 27
Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 16 2024 15:58 utc | 31
From Intelslava Z:
"Israeli troops destroyed an entire village in southern Lebanon."
Posted by: NoName | Oct 16 2024 16:07 utc | 32
In thirty days the election will be over and the Biden admin can retract the statement… they’re just sending another phony message meant to mislead the voters.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 16 2024 16:13 utc | 33
This is just whitewash in an attempt to win the votes of people of conscious. They will not follow through in the least
Posted by: A.z | Oct 16 2024 16:42 utc | 34
It’s Time for America to Get Real With Iran and Israel
Opinion by Thomas L. Friedman
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/15/opinion/iran-israel-war.html
Don't you love Tom. I do. Obfuscate like no other.
Don't let title fool you. Nothing to be said to the entity, just Iran. Send the head of the three letter agency to Iran to tell them: you are hated, exposed, infiltrated, and finally isolated. Oh, how could I forget, “You are N-A-K-E-D.”
Much applause for Thomas. Clap, clap, clap. There, Tom fixed it for everyone.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 16 2024 16:45 utc | 35
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/15/chris-hedges-extermination-works-at-first/
In the long term, this indiscriminate violence waged by Netanyahu and those driving Middle East policy in the White House creates adversaries that, sometimes a generation later, outdo in savagery — we call it terrorism.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 16 2024 16:52 utc | 36
Many people here think that Israel cant win because of violence andvterror it constantly creates.
But look at Natve Americans They lost and never returned. USSR also defeted the Nazies nit because ut was morally better but stronger.
Nothing can save Lebanon and Palestina. They have no support in Arab world.
And most impirtant, they are weaker then Israel.
Posted by: vargas | Oct 16 2024 17:11 utc | 37
Sadly, I suspect that the perpetrators of this disgrace will die old men in their beds (and not in a jail cell) because our so called 'leaders' are all bought and paid for. They love to talk; I've just watched the Useless Nations 'emergency meeting'. It's not an emergency for them of course, hot meals, warm beds, and a healthy paycheck. It's more of an emergency for the civilian, bedridden casualties, who are being burned alive within the supposedly protected confines of a hospital.
Talk is cheap, and our leaders are incapable of anything else. This could be stopped within ten minutes with one phone call, but our leaders are all compromised, no doubt by videos and audio recordings and if they didn't get caught in that trap, substantial amounts of money and 'get out of jail free' cards.
As Jack Nicholson famously said in Tim Burton's excellent 1989 movie, 'Batman', 'This town needs an enema', he could not have been more right. The halls of power attract the type of people that have no business being in them, and it could not be more obvious than it is in 2024.
These problems will not be confronted or solved by talking, I wish it were that easy. This type of 'person' can only be confronted by force, it is the only language that they understand, it is the only medium that serves to demonstrate very simply, that despite what has come before, that's enough and it will not continue.
As long as the collective population of this planet sits idly by while a small group of people (people who should know better considering their own past), continue to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences (and gloat about it), we will not move forward, and at at some point, if our 'leaders' don't act decisively, the levee will break and I suspect the oppressed will make what the oppressors are doing look like a Sunday school picnic.
Posted by: Bob Hopkins | Oct 16 2024 17:15 utc | 38
Someone needs to attempt to get samples of that chemical weapon that has been used on the Irish peacekeepers by Israel. I've been hearing about it for years.
Dialog works references it again.
https://www.youtube.com/live/FzxuGMg1Cos?si=RvCw1I8h71pYhln6
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 16 2024 17:20 utc | 39
In April and May 1916 the British Military Governor of Ireland ordered the executions by firing squad of the captured leadership of the Irish Rising/Revolution of April 24.
Sixteen leaders and combatant commanders were so executed, nearly the same number of Hezbollah leadership killed in the Beirut airstrikes by the IDF.
The end result of the executions of the Irish leaders was a tremendous increase in sympathy and support for the Irish Volunteers/IRB/IRA throughout Ireland. The end result was the fight for Irish freedom which lasted from 1916 until 1998.
The Israelis are deluding themselves by their own arrogance. They will neve, ever defeat an insurgent force that has the popular support of the people, whether that be in Gaza, the West Bank or Lebanon. We see from reports that vigorous resistance is continuing in Gaza and the West Bank, even after one year of IDF massacres. In Lebanon, the IDF has reported no progress, and is under heavy continuous fire.
The only lasting solution is for Israel to give back the lands stolen from 1948 to present and allow for a two state solution, which of course will never occur.........the endless war of IDF conquest will continue until clearer heads prevail......lets see now the Irish War continued for 82 years, only 6 years to go.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 16 2024 17:22 utc | 40
Al manar live feed ;
….13:59 Al-Quds and Al-Qassam Brigades announce joint operation in which resistance fighters ambushed three Israeli Merkavas, employing Shawaz shells and anti-armor shells in Jabalia Camp’s Al-Qassassib Neighborhoo……
Comment - the Shawaz is a type of limpet mine. High likelihood the 3 MBTs were “destroyed”. However, TBD based on Thursday SITREP or better combat footage.
Merkava Tally
227 „destroyed“ with 3 more TBD
682 „damaged“ approx.,
Posted by: Exile | Oct 16 2024 17:24 utc | 41
It's amazing how many terminally naive leftists take "Biden's warning" at face value.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Oct 16 2024 13:42 utc |
There are no leftists that take anything Biden says at face value. Liberals? Sure.
Posted by: Gengar | Oct 16 2024 17:35 utc | 42
This isn't rubbish its Palestinian children - or what's left of them - never forget this piccy.
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGWUspo2WsAA500-.jpg
https://nitter.poast.org/KitKlarenberg
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 16 2024 17:47 utc | 43
@ gengar
Sadly, you are right. For millennia 'liberal' used to mean exactly what the dictionary defines it as: "Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded."
But since the clintonazis took over the dems, everyone uses that term when what they really mean is neo-liberal, which is really nothing more than a usurpation of the neocon oligarchy ideas.
True leftists and progressives loathe both sides of that face of evil.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 16 2024 17:48 utc | 44
Don't mention the Security Council, is from now on my motto (adapted much-loved British comedy series Fawlty Towers phrase - don't mention the war).
The only thing they (SC) do is tell us that the situation in Gaza is "harrowing" and that "it must stop".
So don't mention the Security Council.
The culmination of "the garden's" efforts to stop the one-year long orgy of killing in Palestine is - the exclusion of Israel from a naval show in France! Bravo "garden"!
What a farce (an empty or patently ridiculous act, proceeding, or situation; Merriam-Webster.com)
Posted by: JB | Oct 16 2024 17:55 utc | 45
Voting Jill Stein myself. And to those who say that we third party voters "cost" Harris or Trump the election, I say, NO. They cost themselves the election. Neither is worth voting for. Uncouth, stupid, cruel old man and an inane weak sister, neither of whom has the minimum intellectual ability needed to be the mayor of Bumfuck, Arkansas and neither of whom has any concern for a single human not possessing multiple millions of dollars.
What the general population in this country fails to grasp is that we are the general population in the sense that prisoners refer to the “general population”, or “gen pop”. We are cannon fodder and essential workers - they need soldiers and they need someone to pick the grapes and take out the trash - but they really hate spending money on the miserable lower classes in the gen pop. They really don’t need as many of us as there are.
The culling of the herd will eventually come home to the US. I say it started some time ago; perhaps with Vietnam, when they sent our young men to ’toughen up’ while they dumped Agent Orange on both the Vietnamese and on US boys alike. Then they refused to clean up the wreckage left in Vietnam and refused, until just a couple of years ago, to pay for cancer treatments for the Americans who got dosed with that shit.
Once they really get going, the gen pop of the US will be treated like the people in Gaza.
If a sizable portion of the people in multiple countries don’t stand up to this, the non-humans in charge will dispense with the actual human beings. I kind of think this is fundamentally a good versus evil thing, an actual spiritual warfare thing, humans with souls against the demons and imps of hell, but I won’t get into that.
Or maybe I’m just getting old and cranky.
Posted by: teri | Oct 16 2024 17:56 utc | 46
The Germans never met a genocide they didn't like - such as WWII, Namibia and now Gaza.
https://nitter.poast.org/GlobeEyeNews/status/1846141925247930763#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 16 2024 17:58 utc | 47
The culmination of "the garden's" efforts to stop the one-year long orgy of killing in Palestine is - the exclusion of Israel from a naval show in France! Bravo "garden"!
What a farce (an empty or patently ridiculous act, proceeding, or situation; Merriam-Webster.com)
Posted by: JB | Oct 16 2024 17:55 utc | 45
The Garden is dependent on the existence of the Jungle.
For the Garden to exist it is necessary that a Jungle be maintained outside its walls.
Without the Jungle, it is the Garden which transforms into a Jungle.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2024 17:59 utc | 48
If a sizable portion of the people in multiple countries don’t stand up to this, the non-humans in charge will dispense with the actual human beings
This is precisely where 'Elon Musk' and his AI humanoids fit in.
No more need to house feed and pay actual human beings....🤔
Posted by: RP | Oct 16 2024 18:01 utc | 49
Healthy adults might survive 30 days without food. Children can't, and they suffer irreversible physical and mental harm after days of starvation. This 30 day delay is compounded by the fact that no food has reached northern Gaza in October, according to the UN.The Associated Press @AP · 20h
BREAKING: The Biden administration warns Israel it must boost humanitarian aid into Gaza within 30 days or risk weapons funding.
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Cynicism on steroids.
Biden is just flirting with Net.
One reads that Biden is pissed off at Harris anyway.
He could issue this fake ultimatum for NOW, and really make a statement.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 16 2024 18:04 utc | 50
But look at Natve Americans They lost and never returned. USSR also defeted the Nazies nit because ut was morally better but stronger.
Nothing can save Lebanon and Palestina. They have no support in Arab world.
And most impirtant, they are weaker then Israel.
Posted by: vargas | Oct 16 2024 17:11 utc | 37
Wonderful. Now explain how:
1. The Vietnamese defeated the Americans
2. The Yemeni defeated the West and it's Saudi Proxies
3. The Afghans defeated the American coalition
4. The Chinese PLA volunteers defeated the entire U.N 'Police' coalition headed by McArthur.
5. The Cubans defeated the US backed colonial forces.
6. Iran expunged US and British forces and remained impenetrable to this day.
Also explain why, if the Palestinians and Lebanese are so weak, why they're still fighting the Anglo Zionist 80+ years later?
Your simple, LEGO-like model of the world does not capture reality. It distorts it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 16 2024 18:09 utc | 51
Forget about the Americans and their promises. Just blowing smoke.
However, Egyptians are neck deep in this atrocity. they can easily defy the Israelis and open their gates for supplies. Yet, they are just sitting there watching this genocide like a movie.
Same goes for that pygmy king to the east.
Opening up the Philadelphia corridor should be delegated to the Houthis. They would get it done in one week.
Posted by: Alpi | Oct 16 2024 18:20 utc | 52
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Just made that point to a German friend. Thats the third genocide Germany has been involved in in three separate continents.
Posted by: Cavery | Oct 16 2024 18:40 utc | 53
It seems the Biden administration gave Israel 30 days more of genocide blank check, which conveniently goes beyond the election deadline...
Posted by: Saracen's Head | Oct 16 2024 18:48 utc | 54
Why aren't there hundreds of thousands of starved and thirsted bodies piling up in Gaza? Why is there no cannibalism? The answer must be that somehow the Gaza Palestinians are finding food and water. I suspect Hamas has stored tons of non-perishable food in the tunnels and is doling it out to the people a little at a time.
Posted by: Chas | Oct 16 2024 18:54 utc | 55
@ Giyane | Oct 16 2024 15:13 utc | 13
Political Islam is an oxymoron, because never the twain shall meet. The book to read on this is Wael Hallaq's The Impossible State, in which he discusses why a so-called "Islamic" state is not possible. Hallaq, by the way is a Palestinian Protestant Christian, not a Muslim at all, who is a professor at Columbia University.
An "Islamic" state is not possible because, whenever a combination of religion and state is attempted, the result is caesaropapism, in which the state eats the religion and the religion never eats the state. And the state is always an idol which replaces whatever the religion is supposed to worship or be concerned with. The showcase example of this, of course, is Zionism, where an idolatrous statism has replaced Judaism, a shell of which is left only for cosmetic, decorative purposes, but without any possibility of spirituality on its own, because it is an ideology that is entirely materialist. Attempts to create an "Islamic" state, such as those of Da`ish or of Hizb al-Tahrir al-Islami (The Islamic Liberation Party), the latter founded by a Palestinian but today prominent in Uzbekistan and Indonesia, are forms of "Islamic" Zionism, idolatrous state-building projects in which the "Islamic" elements are just decorative window dressing, completely void of any real content apart from nationalism, or nation-statism.
"Religion" is often misapprehended in the modern world because of western self-congratulatory dichotomies such as: science good; religion bad, or secularism good, religion bad. But what exactly is the religion that is being described by such arguments, because religion is always difficult to define. If we define nationalism as a religion, then the criminality of modern states can be fitted into such a category, otherwise not.
Posted by: Cabe | Oct 16 2024 18:59 utc | 56
"In 30 days the election will be over and the GD party can then do whatever
the power elite wants. To hell with the voters, after the election they are redundant and can go pound sand.
Posted by: librul | Oct 16 2024 13:52 utc | 5
Lol, You write as tho sElections matter. Only to the GD pols fighting for 1st cut at the graft.
They don't to the Bosses. Either candidate will do as told or else. Trump had his warning shot. Now he favors not just razing Gaza, but attacking Iran. Ukr is lost.
The voters are relevant only to the extent that they provide the post-selection chaos & violence needed...for what? Lockd...Martial Law? House Arrest? Rationing? CBDs? All of the above?
Posted by: Mary | Oct 16 2024 19:00 utc | 57
On day 30, Biden is gone and either Trump or Harris will continue americas policy of aid to israel regardless.
This is just political theatre.
Posted by: rgl | Oct 16 2024 15:22 utc | 19
Biden is already gone. He isn't officially go e until Jan 20. The sElection is irrelevant. Everything Biden says is just for show, to keep the D followers "hope "
Posted by: Mary | Oct 16 2024 19:07 utc | 58
EI Podcast: Day 376 of Gaza's Al Aqsa Flood
https://x.com/intifada/status/1846581893187391913
"Breaking news and analysis.'Disgusting crimes and fierce resistance.'
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 16 2024 19:10 utc | 59
b,
Point of order.
This is not a war. It is a genocide.
An American and British genocide of brown people (one of many).
It is important to identify things accurately.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 16 2024 19:10 utc | 60
In the coming Iranian retaliation after the child-murderers expected attack, IMHO they should:
a) Synchronize with Hezb + PMF + Yemen a simultaneous very large barrage of missiles, rockets and drones simultaneously raining down on Occupied Palestine to overwhelm and deplete the AD systems and maximize effectivity by the "swarms" effect.
b) Hezb should make a ground counteroffensive to the child-murderers inside Lebanon, because probably almost all the IAF would be trying to shot-down cruise missiles and drones, and the ground troops will be much less protected. The psychological effect of this kind of attacks will be devastating for the child-murderers with the habit of only snipe children in the head and harass and bomb unarmed civilians.
All of this will show to some millions Zionists that Occupied Palestine is not and will never be a safe place to live if it is not a safe place to live also for the Palestinians, so the best thing they should do is to leave immediately before them or some loved ones of them be hurt. This is especially true for engineers and high tech professionals in high demand in many many places in the world where they can live a prosperous and safe life for them and their families.
Posted by: Dave | Oct 16 2024 19:46 utc | 61
@ dave
The best option would be to not waste explosives. They could use a couple hundred or thousand 'dummy' rockets/drones first to deplete the AD then send the live barrage by the tens of thousands. Or even better, load those 'dummy' projectiles with white phosphorus so when the iron little hat blows them up, they create a nice warm shower for the zionazis.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 16 2024 19:53 utc | 62
Clear and present war crimes....is the ICC cateloging these violations?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 16 2024 15:15 utc | 14
What's becoming increasingly clear to me is the need for all of us to document what crimes we come across in social media, and download a copy before it is deleted.
By maintaining several copies, efforts to erase such evidence can be countered.
Later a searchable database can be created and maintained to help those seeking to prosecute the criminals with their own social media postings.
Apparently an IDF soldier is already being prosecuted while on vacation in Morocco for actions he himself documented on social media.
The fear is that others will learn and delete their posts.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 16 2024 19:55 utc | 63
Kimberley: Censorship, War Propaganda & Fascism
https://www.blackagendareport.com/censorship-war-propaganda-and-fascism
"The giant elephant in the room is Palestine and now Lebanon and the bipartisan determination to support the Zionist project after nearly 200,000 people have been killed..."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 16 2024 19:57 utc | 64
Cabe 56
Thanks for your reply. Islamic State is an entirely political group that has been islanded as a sect by its creators USUKIS.
But there are many self-appointed mullahs, funded by politics all over the world to keep the masses in line and quiet. Spying and compromat are their methodologies for silencing freedom of religious thought.
These techniques are forbidden in Islam and Western liberal politics, so only bad Muslims/ Christians/Jews scrape the bottom of the barrel and Satanistan uses AI to locate its illegal targets. That's the extreme. The normal viciousness of political Islam is just continuous gaslighting for decades.
All prophets were gaslighted to expand their trust in God through patience. The Palestinians must be saints to face the level of hate they currently face. God bless them. They will inherit the earth.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 16 2024 20:12 utc | 65
Ramzy Baroud just posted this eulogy for his sister, Dr. Soma Baroud:
“Soma’s little finger is worth more than a thousand men,” my father would often repeat, to remind us, ultimately five boys, that our sister will always be the main heroine in the family’s story. Now that she is a martyr, that legacy has been secured for eternity.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/16/no-more-texts-from-my-sister/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Oct 16 2024 20:16 utc | 66
create a nice warm shower for the zionazis.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 16 2024 19:53 utc | 62
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Is someone usurping motorslug's name?
Posted by: Gene Poole | Oct 16 2024 20:16 utc | 67
However, Egyptians are neck deep in this atrocity. they can easily defy the Israelis and open their gates for supplies. Yet, they are just sitting there watching this genocide like a movie.
Same goes for that pygmy king to the east.
Opening up the Philadelphia corridor should be delegated to the Houthis. They would get it done in one week.
Posted by: Alpi | Oct 16 2024 18:20 utc | 52
Why is Egypt against Palestinians?
Even the masses, even the Arab street.
Posted by: vargas | Oct 16 2024 20:20 utc | 68
@ gene
Nope
@ vargas
No, the street are behind the Palestinians. It is the government who is, like the PA, doing the bidding of the zionazis. el-Sisi was installed by US/UK because they were deathly afraid of the re-birth of Nasser which was embodied by Mulsim Brotherhood/Morsi and democratically elected before the coup.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 16 2024 20:30 utc | 69
@ David G Horsman | Oct 16 2024 17:20 utc | 39
It was NOT used on Irish UNIFIL forces. IDF did try to intimidate Irish by parking tanks next to its post in Anqurra.
Think they were Indonesian but open to correction.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 20:37 utc | 70
⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱❌🇮🇷 - an Image of a "THAAD" Battery System spotted somewhere in the Negev Desert, Israel.https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/11135
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 16 2024 20:37 utc | 71
Why is Egypt against Palestinians?
Even the masses, even the Arab street.
Posted by: vargas | Oct 16 2024 20:20 utc | 68
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It isn't the people of Egypt; it is the US imposed dictator Abd el-Fattah el-Sisi, who came to power in 2014 after overthrowing the elected Egyptian President election of Mohamed Morsi in June 2013. The election of Morsi, who was supported by the Muslim Brotherhood, offended Netanyahu in Israel because Hamas is an off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) and the two organization were, and still are, close.
The US, Israel, and el-Sisi (with President Obama's blessing) organized a color revolution in Egypt and the leadership of the MB were either murdered or locked away for long prison terms, on trumped up charges.
Sisi is probably shitting in his pants, but what else can he do but sit and watch? After all, he is an instrument of the Empire and the people never forget.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 16 2024 20:53 utc | 72
Political Islam is an oxymoron, because never the twain shall meet. The book to read on this is Wael Hallaq's The Impossible State, in which he discusses why a so-called "Islamic" state is not possible. Hallaq, by the way is a Palestinian Protestant Christian, not a Muslim at all, who is a professor at Columbia University.
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"Religion" is often misapprehended in the modern world because of western self-congratulatory dichotomies such as: science good; religion bad, or secularism good, religion bad. But what exactly is the religion that is being described by such arguments, because religion is always difficult to define. If we define nationalism as a religion, then the criminality of modern states can be fitted into such a category, otherwise not.
Posted by: Cabe | Oct 16 2024 18:59 utc | 56
Tell it to the Ayatollah
Posted by: Mary | Oct 16 2024 20:54 utc | 73
22:35 Israeli media: Golani brigade soldiers have encountered a hard incident on border with Lebanon
23:12 Israeli media: Number of Israeli soldiers killed tonight on northern border with Lebanon rose to 5
https://english.almanar.com.lb/
Daoud smites the Golani.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 20:55 utc | 74
The GD party is giving Netanyahu 30 days. Think. In 30 days the election will be over and the GD party can then do whatever
the power elite wants. To hell with the voters, after the election they are redundant and can go pound sand.
Posted by: librul | Oct 16 2024 13:52 utc | 5
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This is true for every liberal democratic election in the world: The voters just provide a democratic facade that hides the true dictatorial essence of modern liberal democracy.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 16 2024 21:05 utc | 75
Tell it to the Ayatollah
Posted by: Mary | Oct 16 2024 20:54 utc | 73
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Thank you, Mary. Your comment was precise and to the point.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 16 2024 21:08 utc | 76
47, yes 47, meetings of The UN Security Council on Gaza in the past year ....
FAILURE - BIG TIME FAILURE - Further comment unnecessary.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 21:09 utc | 77
as hospitals have so very little if any supplies after any initial treatment for possible survivors...must be a very high percentage of non survivors after i itial triage. Many need followup opwrations too...let alone especially for the children rehabilitation and emotional support if that is remotely possible .
Isr. must be laughing....they bear no costs for letting -having Palestinians survive as it is the aid from outside sources that costs those well wishers countries peoples organisations etc that Isr. itself should be bearing and be charged for.
Posted by: Jo | Oct 16 2024 21:20 utc | 78
Posted by: vargas | Oct 16 2024 20:20 utc | 68
Why is Egypt against Palestinians?
Even the masses, even the Arab street.
<=b/c/e Egyptian oil and gas people are in on the deal to steal the oil and gas in the Levant reserve and deliver it by pipeline see the map by the IGI Poseidon Greece Energy Ministry
https://safety4sea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/eastmed-e1577975674886.png -this map does not show how important the oil and gas field 12 miles off shore from Gaza is to the western energy company intention to cut Russia out the EU gas and oil market and to replace the supply with the gas from the Levant Field. the really good map they had back in February seems to be missing.. but the Feb. map showed a connection from the Levant gas field into this distribution system and from Levant backward into Israel.
I believe it is the pipeline and the Levant gas field that caused the dispersal of the people in Gaza.
I have a copy of the February but it is a pdf and cannot be linked. I posted a link to it way back.
It would be interesting to have a list of investors in that Levant discovery well and the pipeline that goes to Cyprus, Greece, via Poseidon lines to Italy and via the Turkish Stream pipeline and to points north to Europe..
Who are the investors, the producers, the bankers, the oil contractors, and other benefactors of this gas field. I believe it is this gas field and this pipeline that accounts for the sanctions against Russia, the NATO war in Ukraine and the dispersal of the people from Gaza.
Posted by: snake | Oct 16 2024 22:13 utc | 79
The US, Israel, and el-Sisi (with President Obama's blessing) organized a color revolution in Egypt and the leadership of the MB were either murdered or locked away for long prison terms, on trumped up charges.
Sisi is probably shitting in his pants, but what else can he do but sit and watch? After all, he is an instrument of the Empire and the people never forget.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 16 2024 20:53 utc | 72
Iirc there was a violent military dispersal of a protest AGAINST this "color revolution"
Wikipedia:
Morsi refused to accept his removal from office, and many supporters vowed to reinstate him. They originally intended their sit-ins to celebrate Morsi's first anniversary, but they quickly became opposed to the new authorities. Their sit-ins were dispersed on 14 August that year by security forces, leading to at least 904 civilian deaths and 8 police officers killed.
- "2011 Egyptian revolution "
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 16 2024 22:41 utc | 80
@Exile
Are you counting Merkava kaput tanks in Lebanon?
01:23 Islamic Resistance fighters target an Israeli Merkava tank in Labbouneh Height with a guided missile, burning it and killing or injuring all the soldiers on board: statement
https://english.almanar.com.lb/cat/news
Anyone: How many tanks do the Zionists have?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 22:46 utc | 81
snake 79
You are so right. I'll stick my neck out here and make a prediction for the Kurdish Election on the 18th. The Mossad- backed Barzani Party in power, which supplies Kurdish oil to UK without metering to Genel in London, run Tory wanker Zawahiri will win. The highly unpopular Islamists will increase their seats and the Extremely popular party run by son of Kurdish hero Mam Jalal , will lose.
Iff I'm wrong , so be it. But as I see it, nothing happens in this region without USUK oil interests and power.
The idea that Kurdish oil, which is estimated as similar in quantity to Libyan oil reserves, should go towards the Kurdish people is as ridiculous as Scottish oil going to Scotland. 1707 says No. BTW I learnt today that Alex Salmond has died.
God bless him. Craig Murray recent post.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 16 2024 22:52 utc | 82
Useful on the decades long spat between the Irish and IDF in South Lebanon ...
IDF in ‘Outrageous Threat’ to Irish UN Troops in Lebanon
An Irish-Israeli diplomatic crisis has been defused after Israel withdrew its invasion force from firing positions metres from a U.N. post in south Lebanon staffed by Irish peacekeepers.
Irish President Michael D. Higgins had called Israeli demands for U.N. peacekeepers to abandon their posts as its invading army crossed deeper into Lebanese sovereign territory “an outrageous threat.”
[...] Satellite images published by Irish state broadcaster RTE showed two dozen Israeli Defense Force (IDF) military vehicles, including tanks, located just 60 metres from the boundary of U.N. outpost 6-52 last Saturday as it exchanged fire with Shia resistance group Hezbollah.
[...] Since Monday 30 Irish soldiers stationed at UNP6-52, approximately 1km from the Lebanese town of Maroun El-Ras, had been bunkered down and isolated from their 300-odd comrades at Camp Shamrock, which lies West of Bint Jbeil and 7km from the border with Israel.
Israel’s actions prompted accusations from Hezbollah, Lebanese media, and Irish Defence Minister Micheál Martin who said the IDF was using the Irish troops as cover, or human shields, as it extended its invasion. When asked by a journalist if Irish peacekeepers were being used as such, Martin said, “they’re certainly availing of the cover that that presents.”
[...] The U.N. had been communicating with the Israeli permanent mission to the U.N. in New York over the ongoing situation. On Tuesday U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres announced the Israeli forces had moved away from the Irish position after high-level talks.
A force of over 347 Irish soldiers is stationed in Lebanon, 332 of whom are attached to the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) and stationed at Camp Shamrock (UNP 2-45), where RTE reported constant Israel drone activity above the camp last week.
They help make up a force of 10,000 UNIFIL international peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, which patrol the so-called Blue Line, a demarcation negotiated before Israel was forced from the country in 2006 following its invasion in 1982. More than 30,000 Irish troops have served in UNIFIL since its establishment in 1978.
[...] The Israeli embassy in Dublin said Higgins’ interpretation of IDF requests to evacuate as “threats” were “unfounded and inflammatory,” as the requests for some troops to move were “for their own protection and safety.”
Tensions between Higgins and the Israeli embassy have been building for several months. Last month, Higgins accused the embassy of spying on him, intercepting and leaking a congratulatory letter sent to the newly-elected president of Iran Masoud Pezeshkian.
Israel’s diplomatic relationship with Ireland has been strained for some time. As a former colony of England, support for Palestine among the general population has been high, with its politicians among the most vocal in criticising Israel’s genocidal onslaught in Gaza.
[...] The U.N. has historically found it useful to involve Irish troops in peacekeeping missions to sensitive areas like Lebanon and the Congo, partly due to their country’s historic policy of neutrality and history of colonialism, offering a fig leaf to populations they embed with.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/10/idf-in-outrageous-threat-to-irish-un-troops-in-lebanon/
[...]
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 23:03 utc | 83
How Zionists kill and maim you -- the engineering backstory of the exploding pagers:
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/HEZBOLLAH-PAGERS/mopawkkwjpa/
Israel is our misfortune.
Posted by: Jim H | Oct 16 2024 23:08 utc | 84
@ Mary | Oct 16 2024 20:54 utc | 73
@ Ed | Oct 16 2024 21:08 utc | 76
But see, that is exactly the point. Iran can call itself the "Islamic Republic" (as do Pakistan and Mauritania) in order to trade on the piety of the people to try to legitimate itself, but that doesn't make it "Islamic" in any objective sense, if anything worldly can be "Islamic" anyway. It is true that Khumayni rode to power on a wave of revolutionary legitimacy in 1979, but once ensconced in office, that legitimacy began to drain away, because politics never can be the ground of truth, sincerity, good will, etc., and will ever be the ground of lying, backstabbing, and murderous criminality (although of course politicians can still be better or worse; that is, they are not all equal). So the spirituality of the religion began to seek refuge in other places, while the state appropriated the religion for profane purposes, as all states do to some extent, even the US when its politicians attempt to engage in religious pieties. This is why Islam is especially weak in Iran today, because of the alienation of the public from clerical rule. That does not mean that they want liberalism or to be under the American boot, of course, but they are not very happy with the caesaropapism that has established itself there. And if that continues, eventually the clerical state rulers will lose all religious credibility and find their erstwhile followers have migrated to a different religion or sect or practice.
Throughout Muslim history, the religious scholars mostly tried to avoid association with the state, because they knew it was poison. That was the big innovation of the Iranian revolution, and, unfortunately, it could avoid being mixed up with nationalism and nationalist statist idolatry. I remember how, during the Iranian revolution, I would see excited Iranians staring at the political map of Iran and sighing over it. This is the mark of nationalism.
Sorry that this is sort of off topic. To bring it back to that, one will note that the same all applies to the Palestinians too. However, because of their being persecuted en masse, they are more united in their political resistance and also do not see their leadership as religious so much as political. And indeed their leaders are laypeople, not clerics.
Posted by: Cabe | Oct 16 2024 23:10 utc | 85
Tom Pfotzer @ 14:07: "Musk's Starship just finished another flight. Nothing short of magic."
Amazing. You actually believe that shit?
You never heard of the rotation of the earth?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
The atmosphere does not provide a solid connection to the rotating sphere, i.e., the Earth, so the rocket actually moves west many kilometers as it rises vertically (vertically in a rotating frame). Or, if you like, the Earth moves east away from the rocket.
Thus the booster in the deception moves many kilometers westward in its 6 minute outward flight.
But the deception just has the booster fall directly down to the "chop-sticks". There is absolutely no adjustment made to regain the launching pad that is now a long way to the east. Nothing.
And that's only one of the problems.
You have to be amazingly stupid to believe that you can sell this deception.
Just too many physically impossible aspects to the deception.
Posted by: LIES | Oct 16 2024 23:15 utc | 86
Peter AU1, Hopee all is well with you. Post a short note to let us know.
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 0:03 utc | 87
Lowkey
@Lowkey0nline
"Is this the baby shredding section?"
Representatives of Israel's largest arms company Elbit Systems are confronted at an arms fair in Washington.
https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1846635572875432028
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 0:04 utc | 88
Evil is part of their DNA.
The Saviour
@stairwayto3dom
Israeli forces CRUSH a civilian to DEATH for FUN!
WTF?!! 🤬
https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1846396901177844157
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 0:05 utc | 89
SBS News
@SBSNews
Foreign Minister Penny Wong walked off stage a total of ten times as she was repeatedly heckled by pro-Palestinian activists during a speech in Tasmania. She used her address to launch the government’s humanitarian policy.
Watch the full video here: https://youtu.be/xZfng1aaPvM
https://x.com/SBSNews/status/1846430992069784015
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 0:07 utc | 90
Mohamad Safa
@mhdksafa
Israel has broken SIXTY TWO United Nations Resolutions with absolutely no consequences.
Iraq broke two and got invaded and destroyed by the United States for 8 years.
https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1846385176114282701
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 0:08 utc | 91
Who are the investors, the producers, the bankers, the oil contractors, and other benefactors of this gas field. I believe it is this gas field and this pipeline that accounts for the sanctions against Russia, the NATO war in Ukraine and the dispersal of the people from Gaza.
Posted by: snake | Oct 16 2024 22:13 utc | 79
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I would love to see such a list.
And dots can be connected quite easily to the Nord Stream sabotage.
Part of the plan to control the European gas market.
Which had been going on long before the Maidan.
The EU used Ukraine as its cat's paw to create trouble for Russia and its European clients by disrupting their MO of long-term, stable contracts at very advantageous prices for Europe.
Which also allowed Russia to do long-term planning on maintenance and construction of pipelines.
Now the EU has sort of screwed itself---certainly Germany---more or less at the behest of and to the advantage of the USA/Israel and their financial backers.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 17 2024 0:26 utc | 92
BTW I learnt today that Alex Salmond has died.
God bless him. Craig Murray recent post.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 16 2024 22:52 utc | 82
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RIP.
No doubt his demise was hastened by the stressful crap that was thrown at him in Scotland.
God bless Craig Murray for standing up for justice.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 17 2024 0:28 utc | 93
[...] The U.N. has historically found it useful to involve Irish troops in peacekeeping missions to sensitive areas like Lebanon and the Congo, partly due to their country’s historic policy of neutrality and history of colonialism, offering a fig leaf to populations they embed with.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/10/10/idf-in-outrageous-threat-to-irish-un-troops-in-lebanon/
[...]
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 23:03 utc | 83
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There may well be no love lost between the Irish UN troops and the IDF, in light of the role played by Black and Tans to "discipline" Palestinians in their own land right after their having been trained to carry out the same function against the Irish "rebels" in their own land.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 17 2024 0:33 utc | 94
Maybe the Israelis should be starved for 30 days, and their desalination facilities disabled, put the shoe on the other foot.
Posted by: Featherless | Oct 17 2024 0:42 utc | 95
"Think they were Indonesian but open to correction."
Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 16 2024 20:37 utc | 70
You are right Don, thank you. I heard that today and was coming here to ask.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 17 2024 1:04 utc | 96
ZH has a posting up I haven't seen reported and the title is
Israel Hurriedly Sends 50 Aid Trucks Into Gaza After Scathing US Letter
the quote
Israel is trying to show its powerful backer Washington that it is taking urgent action over the spiraling humanitarian crisis in Gaza.On Tuesday the Biden administration submitted a letter to the Israel government warning that the US could withdraw key aspects of US military aid to Israel if it doesn't reign in the devastating humanitarian situation in Gaza. As we noted, like with prior such 'warnings' (this isn't the first), the message seems more timed for the November election
Israel on Wednesday has announced that fifty trucks loaded with supplies have entered northern Gaza—much of which was supplied by Jordan.
A statement from the Israeli Defense Ministry agency overseeing the supplies said that "50 trucks carrying humanitarian aid — including food, water, medical supplies and shelter equipment provided by Jordan — were transferred today to northern Gaza through the Allenby Bridge Crossing and the Erez West Crossing as part of our commitment to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza."
Israel said that "will continue to facilitate and ease the entry of humanitarian aid to Gaza." The Israeli military has stood accused of blocking aid, including trucks with American-supplied support.
"Blinken and Austin raise alarm in the letter that the amount of aid entering Gaza has dropped by 50 percent compared to assurances provided in March and April," The Hill among others has noted.
Political kabuki at humans expense.....barbarism
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 17 2024 1:11 utc | 97
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1846608421145002097
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
The #US has warned #Israel that it has only 30 days to continue massacring Palestinians in #Gaza or it will consider an arms embargo unless Israel allows humanitarian aid into the Strip. If Israel allows humanitarian access, it can continue killing Palestinians.
The US categorically refuses to see Palestinians killed on empty stomachs.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 17 2024 1:30 utc | 98
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 17 2024 1:11 utc | 97
30 days??
It has more to do with trying to secure the Muslim/Arab vote than any altruisticreasons.
Posted by: Menz | Oct 17 2024 1:35 utc | 99
Re: “Political kabuki at humans expense.....barbarism”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 17 2024 1:11 utc | 97
Possibly cover for the Northern starvation campaign. In addition, UNSC today was blistering regarding aide and UNIFIL. Particularly the account that no aide for No. Gaza the entire month of October.
US looked pathetic as usual in there. The letter worthless, but guessing something else more threatening, perhaps rumor of embargoes or siege breaking. I found it odd that Russia sent 30 tons to Gaza today. I knew they sent some to Lebanon, with others last week. But also knew it had been months sent Russia sent to Gaza, cause what for? None gets thru, Israel just takes it and uses or steals it, but after the live burning & The “Generals Plan” for No. Gaza, something tells me, they’d had it. Anyways, not sure what Israel panic was about, but something today spooked them “a little”… very little…
https://tass.com/society/1856757
MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
16 OCT, 02:35
Russian Emergencies Ministry’s plane delivers 30 tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza — agency
The batch included food, tents and sleeping bags
MOSCOW, October 16. /TASS/. An Il-76 plane of the Russian Emergencies Ministry has delivered the 31st batch of humanitarian aid to the residents of Gaza, the ministry’s press service told TASS.
"A Russian Emergencies Ministry’s Il-76 aircraft delivered the 31st batch of humanitarian aid for the civilians of the Gaza Strip. The Russian rescue workers handed over approximately 30 tons of humanitarian supplies to the Egyptian Red Crescent Society," the ministry said.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 17 2024 1:38 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
A question: Was the town of Aitou in northern Lebanon selected as a target by artificial intelligence? If not, how was it selected and what is the strategy behind such a selection?
Posted by: Gene Poole | Oct 16 2024 13:35 utc | 1