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October 7, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-240

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

> In the year since, Israeli soldiers have posted thousands of videos and photos on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and YouTube.

These videos and photos form the foundation of the I-Unit’s new film, which investigates Israeli war crimes primarily through the medium of the evidence Israeli soldiers themselves have provided.

It is, according to Rodney Dixon, an international law expert featured in the film, “a treasure trove which you very seldom come across … something which I think prosecutors will be licking their lips at”. <

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Posted by b on October 7, 2024 at 13:05 UTC | Permalink
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ockham | Oct 7 2024 23:53 utc | 192
Perfidious Albion. Divide and conquer, divide and rule. Hindutva is now another extremist ideology, the hatred of Muslims and communists/Chinese baked in.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 0:37 utc | 201

Naama Levy was 19 years old when she was kidnapped into Gaza.
365 days ago.
She is still there.
Posted by: Thought Thinker | Oct 7 2024 18:17 utc | 73
For a moment I thought you were talking about the 6 year old Palestinian girl – Hind Rajab – crying for help, but getting shot up. My bad.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 0:40 utc | 202

“He is in good health and is carrying out his activities. Some ask us to issue a statement… there is no need for this,” he was quoted as saying by Iranian state media. ”
Almayadeen
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 0:00 utc | 195
I wouldn’t believe this until they show Qa’ani on t.v dancing a jig and reading a few pages of Dr. Suess’ “If I ran the circus”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 0:42 utc | 203

Israel killed “at least” 77 Palestinian people today in the Gaza Strip. We are not really sure exactly how many yet, because crews are still trying to get some out from under the rubble in various places. A number killed in the West Bank today, but I haven’t seen the updated number.
And in Lebanon, the IDF is bombing near the airport in Bierut. Matthew Miller (US State Dept spox) is asking Israel very VERY nicely to please not bomb the airport itself so that “Americans and citizens of other countries” – NOT Lebanese people, you know, but the more important, you know, WHITER type people – can get out before the real blood-letting starts.
It is to retch.
————
A spokesman for the US State Department called on Israel not to attack Lebanon’s main international airport in Beirut or the roads leading to it as countries across the world try to evacuate their citizens.
“We think it’s very important that not only the airport be open, but that the roads to the airport be open, so that American citizens who want to leave can get out, but also citizens of other countries,” Matthew Miller told reporters.
The call came as Israel continued its bombardment of the southern suburbs of Beirut, where the Rafic Hariri International Airport is located. Several of the attacks have hit areas near the facility in recent days.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/10/8/live-israel-kills-dozens-in-gaza-as-palestinians-mark-one-year-of-war
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Posted by: teri | Oct 8 2024 0:43 utc | 204

Posted by: Thought Thinker | Oct 7 2024 18:17 utc | 73
For a moment I thought you were talking about the 6 year old Palestinian girl
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 0:40 utc | 204
You’ll notice that Thought Thinker doesn’t really “think” per se.
It’s entire dialogue is a scripted repetition of very standard hasbara talking points
Try to engage beyond the first level of depth and there’s nothing there, just a gaping hole.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 0:47 utc | 205

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1843389082556301541
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️ #Israeli media:
After a year of war, the alarms were activated three times today in the center of the country due to the launching of rockets from #Gaza, #Lebanon, and #Yemen.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Here is the truth
Enemy media: “Tel Aviv” was bombed today from Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen, and the question is whether this is just the beginning.
Trump: Gaza Strip could be ‘better than Monaco’ after reconstruction
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1843365148813041987
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
I can’t believe what I’ve heard: The #US government “expects #Israel to strike #Hezbollah in a way that complies with international laws and MINIMISING civilians casualties”.
I have never heard of such hypocrisy. Since when does invading a country and striking its citizens fall under international law? Minimising civilian casualties like in #Gaza?

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 0:52 utc | 206

“… [Al Jazeera’s investigative unit (I-Unit)] expected to have to dedicate considerable resources to geolocation – the use of satellite maps and other sources to identify specific locations – and to the use of facial recognition software to scan the internet to identify the soldiers featured in the photos and videos. What it found, however, was that, for the most part, soldiers posted material in their own names on publicly accessible platforms and often gave details of when and where the incidents depicted took place …”

The so-called “most moral army in the world” allows its soldiers to carry mobile phones during combat missions to film their actions and conversations?
At the very least, soldiers should have been warned that using mobile devices during combat would potentially give away their locations during combat to the enemy, no matter how technologically advanced or not the enemy was.
It should be obvious just from the audiovisual evidence Al Jazeera collected that a highly dysfunctional and sociopathic environment exists within the IDF, that teaches and trains the soldiers (many of them teenagers) that they can bully, torture and kill certain groups of human beings and never have to answer for their actions.
So far IDF soldiers have been fortunate that most Palestinians had no way of being able to hold them to account for their crimes. Now the soldiers’ actions are coming back to bite them through their use of social media!
Ain’t karma a bitch?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 8 2024 0:57 utc | 207

US Zinonzis sending Prof. Asad Abukhalil death threats:
asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل
@asadabukhalil
To the American Zionist who sent me a death threat: look, you only have two weapons left: 1) you throw the accusation of antisemitism at anybody who defends Palestine. That won’t intimidate and in fact helps real antisemites because Zionists politicized the charge. 2) Violence is your only weapon. To paraphrase Hannah Arendt, if you only have violence, it means you really don’t have power.
https://x.com/asadabukhalil/status/1843451476150235474

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:05 utc | 208

Wyatt at DPA says that Iran made a nuclear weapons test. Some people have said it was an earthquake, but wave form doesn’t look like an earthquake, it looks like a nuclear test.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 7 2024 19:47 utc | 103
I reckon this suggestion is a fake, weakly sourced according to comments above. But completely improbable for a nuclear test. Semnan is less than 200 km from Tehran. You don’t test your nuclear weapon so close to millions of population.
But I can see why Israel would like to suggest it, so that it can get the US to launch its attack on Iran. October surprise, no doubt.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:06 utc | 209

@205 Arch
That as well.
Norwegian was asking about Galant, I read he was on Fox news (Galant, not Norwegian) but not sure if he was dancing or reciting.
Funny how all these figures keep disappearing and reappearing…or is it all to create a sense of importance and urgency ?
Trubinds paragliders were said to be IDF, but no-one seems sure on anything much anymore.
Quiet tonight so far, though Gaza and Lebanon were same as usual through the day. Feels like a pause for some reason – diplomatic, rest, regrouping, or for major strike, I don’t know.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 1:08 utc | 210

Quds News Network
@QudsNen
Israeli occupation soldiers steal a luxury vehicle during a raid into Qalandia refugee camp, north of occupied Jerusalem.
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1843191125378519297

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:08 utc | 211

ADAM
@AdameMedia
No toddler gets shot by mistake by a sniper.
If you haven’t seen this interview, you should.👇
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1843208223995904471

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:09 utc | 212

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 8 2024 0:12 utc | 199
Re: 10km depth…
Earthquakes are mapped using the WGS84 geoid. It provides a zero point for all satellite, GPS, earthquakes, etc.
10km is a depth given when there are not enough seismic stations nearby to provide an exact measurement.
You’ll even see ones at -2km on USGS Earthquakes (usually quarry blasts).
I considrr this story of a nuclear test to be total bunkum, especially in light of the fact that Khomeini issued a fatwah against their development and use as being un-islamic. Until that changes, I call bullshit and clickbait on this whole fairytale.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 8 2024 1:10 utc | 213

Current Report
@Currentreport1
⚡️BREAKING:
Iranian parliament is reportedly drafting a bill to create an official military alliance between all parties of the resistance axis which includes Iran, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Hezbollah, and Hamas.
The bill mentions the creation of a joint operation room and a unified military infrastructure, as well as joint military exercises and an obligation to send military and humanitarian aid in case of any act of aggression by the US or Israel against any one of the parties —Tasnim.
https://x.com/Currentreport1/status/1843333297071657033

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:10 utc | 214

Suppressed News.
@SuppressedNws
·
12h
⚡️BREAKING: A Palestinian prisoner with a broken leg tried to walk, while Israeli soldiers continue to attack him and other prisoners in the prison. They also brought in a film crew to record the incidents for the Israeli public on the anniversary of October 7.
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1843272629098320296

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:12 utc | 215

Arch
please stop feeding the trolls

Posted by: ld | Oct 8 2024 1:14 utc | 216

Pelham
@Resist_05
·
20h
Palestinian elder Hajj Zaid Abu Halil attempted to stop IDF soldiers from firing on youth that were peacefully protesting
Later in the afternoon the IDF broke into his home in Dora and beat him to death
Dora is in the occupied West Bank..🇵🇸💔
https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1843147906683203589

Posted by: Menz | Oct 8 2024 1:15 utc | 217

Its a MAD, MAD, MAD world…and has been for quite a while
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 7 2024 21:43 utc | 141
ph, at least since 1963. Grin.
That’s when the cooky movie by the same title came out. I remember it well. Johnathan Winters, and Buddy Hackett specially.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 1:16 utc | 218

Yes! That’s the same graphic as DPA showed. I can’t prove it’s legit, but if it is- that’s a test.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 7 2024 22:51 utc | 160
Google Lens led the comparison chart on the left to here:
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/EMPIRICAL-OBSERVATIONS-OF-EARTHQUAKE-EXPLOSION-P-S-Walter-Matzel/3b7591f0a4a30e98098b91357eaaf42ad29334ff
The chart on the right didn’t come up on a search, nor did any other individual nuke charts that I could see. Only non-matching quakes. ..Too bad the Cradle didn’t source it.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 8 2024 1:23 utc | 219

On the other hand India has a long history of earlier Muslim conquests. The history/severity of those is still argued…in short whether the British emphasised existing differences or not, there had been centuries of previous Muslim vs local conflict also.
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 0:35 utc | 202
Classic Islamophobia. That’s the British imperial version of history. It wasn’t “Muslim vs local conflict”. The Muslim conquests, although expressed as military conquests, were in fact a liberation from the suffocating effects of the caste system. that’s why so many converted (and really large proportion did convert). Many would convert because it was the only way you could get out of the caste you were born into. Get out of the imposition of suttee on the wives. Ever wondered why it was that India never became the major world power its position indicated? The strangling effects of the caste system is the answer. I won’t go on, because it’s OT.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:24 utc | 220

Look at the most human of humans! What heros EVER stood up, in a tiny strip of land, to the inhuman brutality of the most genocidal machine, of imperialism and zionism? They are going strong and fearless, hasta la victoria siempre! Look with pride at the noblest of humans!

Posted by: SlowDL | Oct 8 2024 1:25 utc | 221

@211 laguerre
My thought also, so it is funny to see it picked up so readily:
The western narative since whenever has been of “stoping Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon”.
It has been used as the main reason to actually isolate, embargo, and attack Iran.
Similar to Iraqi WMD.
Then attached to that reasoning is that Iran is painted as hostile to “Israel”, funded resistance, is closer to Russia and is a possible threat to gulf states.
Although “Israel” cannot attack because of an earthquake, the mood of imminence and inevitability of nuclear capability is being widely circulated in the US currently, and that creates an illusion of an acceptable backdrop to any “Israeli” strike on related Iranian facilities.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 1:26 utc | 222

@222 laguerre
As I mentioned, it is argued.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 1:30 utc | 223

seems like Daniel Hagari should seek a new job
Remarkable Sitrep by Intel Slava 🇮🇱🇮🇷 (Telegram channel – snippet format)
17:02 Information has been received indicating that the Israeli response against Iran will occur “soon”, a US security official tells Israel’s Channel 13
19:35 A ballistic missile was launched from Yemen into Israel, the Times of Israel reports, citing the IDF.
The Israeli army said the rocket was successfully intercepted by Israeli air defenses.
19:50 The IDF is currently carrying out powerful strikes on targets in southern Lebanon.
20:37 The Houthis said they attacked Tel Aviv with two ballistic missiles and also attacked the port city of Eilat with drones. Israel said it shot down the missiles.
02:32 It is likely that Israel’s first retaliation against Iran will focus on military bases, and perhaps some intelligence or leadership sites, officials say – NYT

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 8 2024 1:30 utc | 224

from Hadi Nasrallah, from Mount Galilee
https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1839362423310123318
Hadi @HadiNasrallah
Today Israel killed my cousin in Beirut. A beautiful and remarkable soul that will never be forgotten 🕊️ They will not break us
https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1843224422779621867
Hadi @HadiNasrallah
A year ago today, Israel killed its own people and burned them alive with tanks and apache helicopters
https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1843374875651850534
Remember when Israel tried to pass a picture of an overcooked roast beef as one of the “40 beheaded babies” lmfaooo
https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1843281579877233001
⚠️ @SuppressedNws was locked out of his account for speaking up against Israel and supporting the resistance. Zionist accounts can mass report, dox, send death threats and even advocate for genocide without any restrictions but God forbid someone roots for a native resistance.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 1:40 utc | 225

Suresh 164 – American KC135’s and Uk KC130’s aerial tankers on standby in Israel for two reasons:
– One, to refuel the IDF strike group fighter bombers for their return flight after the attack on Iran.
– Two, to refuel other IDF non strike aircraft to keep them airborne and out of harms was during the expected Iranian counterstrike to follow the IDF strike (the IDF strike expected in the next forty eight hours)
The big problem with number one is that Syria, Jordan, Iraq, SA and Kuwait have denied overflight privileges to US/UK and IDF aircraft during any and all hostilies in Iran. If the tankers can not overfly these countries then they will be useless in support of the attack, and the IDF attack will fail.
Lets see if these Arab states have the nuts continue to deny overflights…..I have my grave doubts.
Another round for all the barflies….stay tuned.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 8 2024 1:42 utc | 226

Zionism antedates Nazism. Hitler is known to have been a voracious reader. I wonder what influence Herzl and other Zionists may have had on Hitler.
Posted by: Lysias | Oct 7 2024 21:14 utc | 134
Lysias, he was indeed a voracious reader since his boyhood. You may be interested to know that his boyhood hero was the famous German novelist, Karl May, who wrote popular American Westerns in which the Red Man tribes featured prominently and in a highly favorable light. Hitler disseminated about 10,000 copies of one of May’s Westerns throughout the German military in the late 30s and early 40s. The Third Reich elite were a highly philosophical bunch that centered their sometimes strange ideas on the concept of Aryanism. The sanskrit word arya means “nobility” (of character). Aryanism to them was a racialist philosophy, as opposed to being genetically race-based as Allied/Zionist propaganda continues to falsely insist. Aryanism subscribed to the belief that a certain subset of humans — a race of humans, in the old-fashioned sense of the word — had retained in intrinsic nobility of mind where others had apparently lost it. I think it’s safe to say that we can all relate to that idea.
The Third Reich considered the Red Man of north America as honorary aryans. Honorary as opposed to formal because the Reich elite acknowledged that they had no direct experience of them. It’s also worth noting that the Reich had the only genetically racially diverse military in WW2. One can find old photos online of SS battalions with numerous black men, for example.
Just stating some historical but little known facts here. Not trying to trigger anybody. For more information on Third Reich political philosophy, Alfred Rosenburg was the godfather, so looking up his writings could be a good start.
I don’t imagine that Herzl had any positive influence on him. On the contrary.

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 1:42 utc | 227

I suppose it’s because he’s Singaporean and they have this Israel-worship thing going, along with an underlying fear of anything Islamic on account of being surrounded by Muslims. My theory anyway.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 0:32 utc | 201
Bang on Arch. Military was remodeled by the Israelis in the late 70s. Still a lot of Israelis are seconded to the Singapore Armed Forces, especially in the Intelligence branch. Heaps of “retired” types keep giving seminars of certain operations regarding specific branches to this day.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 8 2024 1:48 utc | 228

I reckon this suggestion is a fake, weakly sourced according to comments above. But completely improbable for a nuclear test. Semnan is less than 200 km from Tehran. You don’t test your nuclear weapon so close to millions of population.
But I can see why Israel would like to suggest it, so that it can get the US to launch its attack on Iran. October surprise, no doubt.
Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:06 utc | 211
The well-worn Nevada underground nuclear test site is 75 miles from Las Vegas.

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 1:50 utc | 229

@211 laguerre
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 1:30 utc | 225
Yes, I did think of the WMD Iraq angle… basically I think if Israel nukes Iran it’s all over for them anyway (they probably have assurances in this regard), so why would they do a test now?
Far more credible to use something like this as an excuse to bomb their nuclear sites, which in some ways is like nuking them without nuking them…

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 1:56 utc | 230

The well-worn Nevada underground nuclear test site is 75 miles from Las Vegas.
Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 1:50 utc | 231
Las Vegas is not actually a big city.

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:58 utc | 231

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 7 2024 23:57 utc | 194
Thank you. Learn something every day.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 1:59 utc | 232

Far more credible to use something like this as an excuse to bomb their nuclear sites,…
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 1:56 utc | 232
That seems very likely.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 2:01 utc | 233

Basically, though, this is all just weeds, in the context.
The comment JAB was responding to referred to Catholics purely as a metaphor or analogy to make a point about the alienation of US taxpayer dollars to fund the Jewish state. JAB took it literally, in order, it seemed to try to justify this use of a huge stream of US taxpayer dollars.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 8 2024 0:04 utc | 198
Look, you can misread me if you want. But you can’t possibly believe that I support the Israeli state if you’ve read a single comment from me.
Self-righteousness is a powerful drug.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 2:02 utc | 234

I published The Cradle link about the Iran seismic event because I give them some credibility.
Given the meager crumbs us public are fed, it doesn’t sound totally impossible.
The thought I had a while back was that, like Belarus, Iran had agreed to have nukes out-stationed in their country. If that is true, then this might have been a test/training run of the system for those in Iran working with the Russians….and a message to the God Of Mammon bully that Iran is locked and loaded under the Russia nuke umbrella.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 2:02 utc | 235

reante | Oct 8 2024 1:42 utc | 229
The noble savage thing does not fit well with Mien Kampf, nor the thing about nobleness of character stuff. Nazism was very race based. In Mien Kampf, Hitler described the French as having diluted or contaminated their bloodlines with that of the indigenous peoples from its colonies (mixed marriages ect).

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 2:07 utc | 236

Ok boomer 😀

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 2:08 utc | 237

Beg your pardon ok boomer was directed at laguerta 233

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 2:09 utc | 238

That would be laguerre sorry gang

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 2:10 utc | 239

fyi,
https://x.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1843318219404186024
The Grayzone @TheGrayzoneNews
Atrocity Inc: How Israel Sells The Destruction Of Gaza
Watch @MaxBlumenthal’s new documentary takedown of the media deceptions and hoaxes Israel pushed to manufacture consent for its genocidal assault on Gaza
In collaboration w/ @propandco & @sutjhally

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 2:12 utc | 240

Speaking of tests…… somewhere out in Utah on some US base there was a rather large underground explosion last week that registered as an earthquake. They passed it off as destroying old ordinance, great excuse. Dots…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 8 2024 2:16 utc | 241

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:24 utc | 222
The Muslim conquests, although expressed as military conquests, were in fact a liberation from the suffocating effects of the caste system.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 2:23 utc | 242

macron is piteous. I assume he was mightily slapped down by billionaire french/Nato zionists, netanyahu and other genocidal European and USA maniacs, and israeli propaganda bots/reporters etc etc
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1842824754853794095
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand
Absolutely pathetic.
Yesterday Macron said he’d consider an arms embargo on Israel, and he was immediately scolded by Netanyahu in the form of a public and very insulting declaration.
And he immediately caved, France just confirmed 👇 they’d keep sending weapons to Israel.
Why would Macron make this declaration at all if he won’t even stick with it for 24 hours? It’s like a humiliation fetish at this stage…

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 2:25 utc | 243

Back to the Start – Resistance Roundup – Day 367

……Israeli authorities knew that the resistance fronts in Palestine, Lebanon, and Yemen, were preparing to escalate their attacks on Israel today, to mark the first-year-anniversary of October 7.
Indeed, attacks came from all fronts, including Yemen, Lebanon and elsewhere.
But what the Israeli military might have not been prepared for was the shelling of Tel Aviv by Al-Qassam Brigades with a barrage of rockets.
The rockets originated from southern Gaza, particularly Khan Yunis, an area that the Israeli army has stormed many times, almost demolishing the whole city.
Al-Qassam’s rockets, known as M90, must have demolished any hope among the Israeli military echelons that their war of extermination in Gaza has brought to an end the firing of rockets from the besieged Strip.
A whole year of war has not altered the equation governing the relationship between Gaza and Israel. To the contrary, the war front has expanded to reach other parties.
Below are the latest statements by the two main Resistance forces in Gaza, and the Lebanese Resistance Movement ……

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/back-to-the-start-resistance-roundup-day-367/
Comment – southern front; escalation apparent with hapless IDF conscripts and weekend warriors getting ambushed lured into booby trapped houses. 3 Merkavas damaged videos eastern front radio silence
Northern Fromt : IDF fighters continue to be thrown against the underground fortress in a senseless slaughter by the Likud.
Merkava destroyed tally unchanged at 223 .
Plus 3 damaged/ disabled to ~663
Pray for peace

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 2:36 utc | 244

You can pull up the earthquake on USGS’s website, pick a tracking station and see the not nuclear test waveforms.
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=22.75592,34.98047&extent=46.80006,79.32129&range=search&timeZone=utc&search=%7B%22name%22:%22Search%20Results%22,%22params%22:%7B%22starttime%22:%222024-10-01%2000:00:00%22,%22endtime%22:%222024-10-08%2023:59:59%22,%22maxlatitude%22:41.588,%22minlatitude%22:23.661,%22maxlongitude%22:65.004,%22minlongitude%22:42.768,%22minmagnitude%22:2.5,%22orderby%22:%22time%22%7D%7D

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 8 2024 2:36 utc | 245

I am aware that the first people sent to the camps were the commies. Then came the jews, the homosexuals, the gypsies, and an assortment of “lesser” people.
I am not aware that catholics as such were sent to the camps. That’s the only thing I was taking issue with.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 7 2024 23:43 utc | 185
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No.
You do not know your history.
The “lesser” people—German citizens considered to be lebensunwuerdiges Leben—were not sent to concentration camps. They were sent to special centers or even mainstream hospitals to be euthanize mainly by medical means. However, some of them were the first test victims of gassing and cremation.
It has been estimated that between 150,000 and 250,000 Germans were murdered under the T4 program.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 8 2024 2:37 utc | 246

note: A 19 year old Israeli, male or female, is most likely a IDF conscript. Therefore a POW combatant

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 2:39 utc | 247

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 2:23 utc | 244
#######
There is no such thing as Sharia law.
Sharia means law. Sharia law would be law law.
The Sharia is from God. It’s not like Western man-made laws. It is clear and unchanging with little room for interpretation.
The 10 Commandments were Sharia.
Of course, inflexible objective laws are very unpopular with neoliberals and people that want to promote sodomy and usury.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 8 2024 2:41 utc | 248

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 8 2024 2:41 utc | 250
Thanks for the clarification, but I was being sarcastic, should have put ‘Sharia Law’ in quotes… not interested in a theological discussion with you, or about Sharia or Sodom (or even usury).
But I do get a lot of good information from your posts.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 2:45 utc | 249

But you can’t possibly believe that I support the Israeli state if you’ve read a single comment from me.
Self-righteousness is a powerful drug.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 2:02 utc | 236
=====
Re “But you can’t possibly believe that I support the Israeli state if you’ve read a single comment from me.”
I didn’t say that nor did I say that I believed that.
I commented on a single comment of yours, what YOU wrote.
Stick to the topic.
Re “Self-righteousness is a powerful drug.”
You got that right!
Good night.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 8 2024 2:45 utc | 250

@237 psycho
Not your fault, but this is all becoming a real world psycho thriller – who is lying or whether sanity beats ideology…just how long can a façade be kept and how will they react once it is lost.
@245 michael
Ha, yesterday I almost taunted laguerre on this when he said “Macron is serious” – not because I misunderstood his point of view but because the phrase “Macron is serious” just sounded so comical (no offence meant laguerre) , but it seems it wasn’t necessary to make the effort after all. Anyway, laguerre might not actually be french, but comiserations if you are, laguerre – I guess Micron changed his mind on who would be the winner.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 8 2024 2:47 utc | 251

A Closer Look at Daily Tactics of Tough Battle: Hezbollah Soldiers Eager to Fight ‘Israel’ without Restrictions
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2189035
Comment – review of how the methodical clearing of the 50km zone has led to the IDD being blind as a bat when trying to attack the underground fortress since all the soy equipment is gone. Any IDF in Galilee spend most of their time in huddling in shelters unable to move around their bases

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 2:49 utc | 252

History is being re-written as we speak.
“Riding a wave of wins, Israel’s ruling coalition may be in no mood to compromise. “
Above from an MSNBC article about how the warring parties have an off ramp – implementing 1701.
I’ll eat my shoe when that happens.
So much winning though. Like Nutty said: we are winning and we will win. So why compromise at all, with all that winning?
Why is it never ever thought of that the first and last solution to bringing the war to an end is to stop the genocide? All guns will go silent then, and only then.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 2:52 utc | 253

10km is a depth given when there are not enough seismic stations nearby to provide an exact measurement.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 8 2024 1:10 utc | 215
Good point!

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 8 2024 3:04 utc | 254

In response to
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Why is it never ever thought of that the first and last solution to bringing the war to an end is to stop the genocide? All guns will go silent then, and only then.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 2:52 utc | 255
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Because for the God Of Mammon cult, war is a feature, not a bug. You certainly don’t see Pope Frank or his acolytes defending human life against obvious genocide in Gaza do you? And why would that be?
Because Pope Frank is one of the leaders of the God Of Mammon cult behind the curtain, that’s why.
Humanity is fighting an existential battle against a segment of our species that has had 2K years to build and maintain patriarchal/monotheistic barbarism with Might-Makes-Right and global private finance behind a curtain of myth and ongoing propaganda to control the narrative.
The anti-humanistic form of social organization of the West is being challenged and will eventually be overwhelmed by example of the China/Russia axis.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:12 utc | 255

Because Pope Frank is one of the leaders of the God Of Mammon cult behind the curtain, that’s why.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:12 utc | 257
Thank you for your reply ph.
If you allow me to edit the above a little.
Because Pope Frank is one of the leaders of the God Of Mammon and child molester cult behind the curtain, that’s why.
The case of cardinal Bernard of Boston comes to mind.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Oct 8 2024 3:28 utc | 256

we already know all this. The tragedy is that around me there are 99.99% cowardly creatures that believe all the genocidal entity,s lies, and are unwilling to listen to the truth, it is too uncomfortable for their little worldview, which is going to be shaken pretty soon.
Posted by: stranger | Oct 7 2024 19:24 utc | 98
why/how is their worldview going to be shaken and how soon?

Posted by: finder | Oct 8 2024 3:30 utc | 257

Just had a look at a map of Iran fault lines. Both Earthquakes occurred on the Parchin fault line.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jean-Francois-Ritz/publication/258661895/figure/fig3/AS:649313214558216@1531819742729/a-Map-of-the-active-faults-in-Tehran-region-compiling-works-by-Berberian-et-al-1993.png
Rhymerez | Oct 8 2024 2:36 utc | 247 gave the link for the locations of the earthquakes. The ‘nuke’ quake is located at the north western end of the Parchin fault, the other toward the south eastern end.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 3:31 utc | 258

If we look at Post WWII, . . .
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 7 2024 20:45 utc | 125
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My comments on this subject referred to events pre-WW2.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 8 2024 3:31 utc | 259

I just read the latest Alastair Crooke piece at Strategic Culture and he ended with this

The West is in the throes of at least one, potentially two, crushing defeats at the moment – and so the question arises: Will lessons be learned? Can the right lessons be learned? Does the professional world order class even accept that there are lessons to be learned?

Good questions, eh?
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/10/07/perfidy-in-tehran/

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 3:41 utc | 260

To Honzo, Outraged and other (generally sane and informed) contributors.
I intend to engage in some wild speculation which might provide some plausible connections to the following aspects to the current situation regarding occupied Palestine (aka Israel) and Iran.
As to the situation I make the following points-
(1) The launch of near 200 ballistic missiles from Iran on Thursday last apparently penetrated the Arrow defensive missile shield, and caused serious damage to Israeli air bases, although the real extent of this has not been announced by Israel-no surprise here..
However, a significant number of missiles got through and either hit or exploded near their intended targets.
(2) Regardless of how much damage was incurred, the porosity of the ABM defence must have caused concern to any sane Israeli commander (I assume such persons exist) when considering the question “what if those missiles had been fitted with nuclear warheads?”
If at all sane they would have concluded that the current occupation of Palestine was tenuous at best.
(3) In the wake of this missile barrage Nutty predictably promised swift and large retribution on Iran. A week later we are all still waiting and I for one am intrigued why such an “unprovoked” assault on Israel’s sovereignty has not yet been answered with a devastating response.
Now for some speculation-
(1) The RF, China Iran and others realised a few years ago-and probably more urgently after the collective West precipitated the current Ukraine war in 2022 –that a very serious geopolitical situation was imminent and probably not avoidable. This has existential ramifications for RF, China, Iran North Korea, and indeed any nation not a member of the Western hegemony. Accordingly they have (informally?) implemented measures for collective defence which would (should) have included the use of nuclear explosives if necessary.
(2) It is not hard to see that the (first use) of such weapons would not be in Ukraine (Europe) but in an Izzy (with US/UK?) attack on Iran. I think that the RF (China?) may have covertly arranged for NK to provide a sufficient number of nuclear warheads to Iran.as a deterrent, or possibly an answer to this. I note here that there have very recently been extremely high level meetings between RF and NK as well as between RF and Iran, and apart from the usual boilerplate announcements, the real substance of these discussions (agreements) remain obscure. Note also that provision of NK missiles would probably not be necessary since Iran has its own proven systems. .
(3) For Israel to deliver a “devastating” blow against Iran without incurring very serious loss of aircraft etc, a nuclear attack would –from the Izzy POV – be quite logical. Nuclear attacks are not unprecedented(Hiroshima and Nagasaki) and significant destruction of Iranian military infrastructure would justify the (probable) loss of many F15’s and F35’s, and possibly nuclear missile equipped submarines.
(4) If the RF have conveyed such information to the US (through high level covert channels-diplomatic or otherwise), this might explain the delay in the Israeli response to the recent missile barrage. Someone is getting very worried and trying to reign the Nutter faction in.
(5) Honzo and others have drawn attention to a recent significant geological event a few hundred kilometres from Tehran and speculated that this could be a nuclear test. Others maintain that it was simply a moderate earthquake (common in Iran), and I do not want to take one side or the other. But if Iran already possesses nuclear weapons (courtesy of NK via the RF), then a test would not really be necessary, unless of course the nuclear explosion was real and intended to reinforce any messages previously sent to the wing nut faction(s).
I’m sure some commentators will accuse me of having a fevered imagination, and maybe they will be proved correct, but until that eventuates I reckon the points made above are plausible, and do explain a few things of current interest.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 8 2024 3:51 utc | 261

Following on #258
War is a great opportunity to grab some kids. Also a feature of forever war.

Posted by: Matt | Oct 8 2024 3:59 utc | 262

Ever wondered why it was that India never became the major world power its position indicated? The strangling effects of the caste system is the answer. I won’t go on, because it’s OT.
Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:24 utc | 222
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Interesting.
I, too, question the negative interpretation of the influence of Islam on India.
According to William Dalrymple, in White Moguls (which centers on Hyderabad, in the Deccan), the links between India and Persia are ancient, and Islam in India more or less originated in Persia. Conversion to Islam to escape the strictures of the caste system makes a lot of sense. Dalrymple mentions caste in passing while telling other stories. The caste system per se is not his focus (not that I have noticed).
He has a new book out on India.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 8 2024 4:00 utc | 263

Scott Ritter on Judge Nap stated that the Iranian tremor source was 10 miles deep so not a nuclear blast.
I have no idea where he got that data from.

Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Oct 8 2024 4:02 utc | 264

I think Peter AU1 and others questioning the Iran seismic activity have good reasons and while the drums of war are loud, the fog is thick and us public want to make sense of the data coming our way, some events may need time and more information to clarify.
I find it hard to believe that logistics is holding up whatever empire has planned but believe instead it is some clear eyed empire generals banging on tables saying they don’t want to die from whatever weapons they understand the axis of resistance to have.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2024 4:05 utc | 265

@Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 8 2024 3:51 utc | 263
That is all very logical reasoning. Time is on the side of Russia, China and Iran so all they have to do is dissuade the West from starting an outright war – so giving Iran nuclear warheads makes absolute sense. Its the only reason that North Korea has not been flattened by the West.

Posted by: Roger | Oct 8 2024 4:06 utc | 266

Trump wished to use nukes on Iran but the Russians said nyet.
Iranian uranium enrichment in larger amounts than required for peaceful purpose I believe is real. One Iranian official said something about having a bomb, but to me, there is no indication Iran has built or is building a bomb.
Iran is under Russia’s nuclear umbrella, but Iran could be making sure it has materials on hand for if that is removed.
Bait to draw the US in? I leave it a bit open exactly where Iran is at with nukes, but this recent bullshit of Iran detonating a nuke on a fault line just 14 hours after an earthquake on that fault line is a bit far fetched.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 4:13 utc | 267

Jackson Hinkle interviews the Spokesman and Senior Political Officer of Ansaar Allah: https://x.com/legittargets/status/1843441146628059603?s=46&t=Bmxd6oMOVCgO8xfOez1NLQ
He takes the view that the U.S. and U..K. are the Dogs. I had hoped Jackson would have asked him, “Just how big are your balls?”

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 8 2024 4:17 utc | 268

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 4:13 utc | 269
Yes, umbrella rather than direct provision of warheads, which is unheard of… and the rest fits, testing at this time would be risky even if it was done in a more logical place. All speculation, but also explains the big pause in the Israeli response.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 4:29 utc | 269

Posted by: laguerre | Oct 8 2024 1:24 utc | 222
Along the same lines, I find it interesting that the preeminent rising powers of the 21st century are Russia and China, both formerly communist, which I think — in terms of rising literacy, education, social welfare, and health — provided a good foundation to build on.
India, on the other hand, had caste at the “religious” split.
Meanwhile, American mathematicians, physicists, and other rocket scientists are busy creating algorithms for Wall Street. What a waste.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 8 2024 4:30 utc | 270

I had hoped Jackson would have asked him, “Just how big are your balls?”
Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 8 2024 4:17 utc | 270
It should have been obvious by the size of the cart the man was pulling behind him …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 4:31 utc | 271

Yeah, Iran would never test nukes on a fault line. You don’t even have to cite a fatwa because Islam is a religion of peace.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 8 2024 4:36 utc | 272

Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 4:29 utc | 271
I suspect it was the recent Iranian strike on Israel that has made the US/Israel cautious. Also all out conventional war with Iran may not be in the US plans at the moment. My thought is they are trying to defang Iran’s allies first before initiating something major against Iran.
Part of that line of thought was an attack on Iran my be timed for after the election/inauguration.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 4:47 utc | 273

The noble savage thing does not fit well with Mien Kampf, nor the thing about nobleness of character stuff. Nazism was very race based. In Mien Kampf, Hitler described the French as having diluted or contaminated their bloodlines with that of the indigenous peoples from its colonies (mixed marriages ect).
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 2:07 utc | 238
Why not? Why the poor fit?
French bloodlines do get diluted when mixed with non-French bloodlines. That’s not a value statement it’s an objective statement. He was a militant nationalist so he viewed all consequences of imperialism as negative. He was a hardcore regionalist. Some shepherds are all about their purebreeds because those breeds are the most natural. Why mess with natural selection? The answer is always for profit. Why, as a jewish merchant banker in France, mess with natural selection in order to chase profits by forcibly uprooting imperial slaves from foreign lands and bringing them back to France to crossbreed with gentile French but absolutely not with fellow Jews? For profit and supremacy. Hitler saw the Peoplefarm for what it is. Which is why he was always captivated with the Red Man. And why he tried to keep the Germans from suffering our fate.

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 4:48 utc | 274

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 8 2024 4:47 utc | 275
My thought is they are trying to defang Iran’s allies first before initiating something major against Iran.
Part of that line of thought was an attack on Iran my be timed for after the election/inauguration.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 4:54 utc | 275

1) Iran is not clever enough to dupe anyone and 2) MoA is too clever to be duped by anyone. Just ask anyone in this echo chamber.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 8 2024 4:56 utc | 276

meanwhile back at the ranch
“….The US is the biggest supplier of fuel and weapons to Israel. Its policy was unchanged by the ICJ ruling, according to the White House…..The US and Russia supplied Israel with the most processed oil products in recent months….”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/20/israel-war-gaza-fuel-war-crimes-warning
Countries fueling Israel’s Gaza war may be complicit in war crimes, experts warn
This article is more than 1 month old
Exclusive: research tracks dozens of oil and fuel shipments that could have aided Israel’s war on Gaza
Israeli tanks, jets and bulldozers bombarding Gaza and razing homes in the occupied West Bank are being fueled by a growing number of countries signed up to the genocide and Geneva conventions, new research suggests, which legal experts warn could make them complicit in serious crimes against the Palestinian people…..
….Overall, almost 80% of the jet fuel, diesel and other refined petroleum products supplied to Israel by the US over the past nine months was shipped after the January ruling, according to the new research commissioned by the non-profit Oil Change International and shared exclusively with the Guardian….
….It suggests a handful of countries – Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Gabon, Nigeria, Brazil and most recently the Republic of the Congo and Italy – have supplied 4.1m tons of crude oil to Israel, with almost half shipped since the ICJ ruling. An estimated two-thirds of crude came from investor-owned and private oil companies, according to the research, which is refined by Israel for domestic, industrial and military use…..
….In response to the new findings, UN and other international law experts called for an energy embargo to prevent further human rights violations against the Palestinian people – and an investigation into any oil and fuels shipped to Israel that have been used to aid acts of alleged genocide and other serious international crimes.
…..“After the 26 January ICJ ruling, states cannot claim they did not know what they were risking to partake in,” said Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territory, adding that under international law, states have obligations to prevent genocide and respect and ensure respect for the Geneva conventions……
….“The case for the US’s complicity in genocide is very strong,” said Dr Shahd Hammouri, lecturer in international law at the University of Kent and the author of Shipments of Death. “It’s providing material support, without which the genocide and other illegalities are not possible. The question of complicity for the other countries will rely on assessment of how substantial their material support has been.”…..
….“The clock started after the ICJ ruling, but there was already a general obligation for states under the Geneva convention to respect, enforce and ensure enforcement of international humanitarian law, which is clearly not happening,” added Albanese…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 4:58 utc | 277

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 8 2024 3:51 utc | 263
Those are reasonable speculations. It seems to me that if Iran, by whatever means, has nuclear warheads, that they would want to make it known to the US, but not to the general public. Publicly declaring that they have nukes paints the US into a corner that they can’t get out of without humiliation. This is counter-productive when the aim of Iran and the rest of the resistance is to prevent uncontrolled escalation from breaking out, and allowing the economic/diplomatic/cultural/political domains to continue to erode US hegemony. Giving the US an out is wise. Of course, there is no out for Nutty personally, and this is a serious problem for the US, given Nutty’s resources. Arranging perceptions so that the US can play the adult in the room is to everyone’s benefit, but that doesn’t mean that the Biden Regime will accept the gesture.
I have no ‘belief’ regarding Iranian nukes, or borrowed DPRK nukes, etc. The nuke test narrative does not seem to play into Izzie hands though, because the west as a whole cannot harm Iranian capabilities so badly that Iran cannot close the straight of Hormuz and keep it closed, destroy all the oil infrastructure on the other side of the Persian gulf, and wipe out all US military installations in the region- while at the same time leveling Israel, all by conventional means. The absolute futility of attacking Iran is not a consequence of them having nukes, it’s the stupidest possible thing that an international banker could choose to do even with no Iranian nukes.

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 8 2024 5:00 utc | 278

reante 276
If you think French bloodlines are polluted by intermarriage, your place is with Blinken and Trump. But as you are probably an ignorant yank, you could get in a time machine and go back to Apartheid South Africa for perfect comfort.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 8 2024 5:02 utc | 279

Posted by: Jonathan W | Oct 8 2024 4:56 utc | 278
1) Iran is not clever enough to dupe anyone and 2) MoA is too clever to be duped by anyone. Just ask anyone in this echo chamber.
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Yeah, I think it’s futile to shout in this echo chamber — you should leave before you get trapped like me. Sooner the better.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 5:10 utc | 280

The IDF announced number of Hezbollah fighters killed thus far (since the attempted ground invasion) appears to be completely baseless.
Other than “the IDF told me so”, there doesn’t seem to be any logic or reasonable basis for this kind of count.
Does the IDF do body counts?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 5:12 utc | 281

Posted by: Jane | Oct 7 2024 23:28 utc | 175
I am saying that revolution in the social/historical context is the supplanting of one class by another. This does not happen when fascists take over a bourgeois liberal state- they are agents of precisely the same ruling class that the bourgeois liberal state served. The French Revolution and the American Revolution both led to bourgeois activists supplanting the previous feudal regimes ruled by aristocrats. Of course, the American Revolution did not destroy the British feudal structure, it simply supplanted it in the colonies, but it nevertheless installed a new class in power, with a system of governance designed to keep it there. In Russia there was a bourgeois revolution that overthrew the Tsar, and right on its heels, a revolution that empowered the proletariat and the peasantry. In all of these, the key element is the supplanting of one class by another.
A ‘counter revolution,’ to address that issue, restores the previous ruling class to power.

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 8 2024 5:15 utc | 282

Honzo 280
Although in many ways this war is over because genocide weakens Israel, as well as getting zapped, the political fuel of warmongering is unstoppable, now that the reputation of USUKIS is finished.
Only in the US daylight hours could we hear comments on this blog praising Hitler’s Nazi Germany for trying to create a colonial empire.
It’s like they come here because they think this is a forum for Nazism.
I know it’s a Bar and the purpose ofa bar is intoxification. But if intoxification with what’s happening in Ukraine and West Asia, and the glorification of war by right-wing veterans of USUKIS , is the purpose of this blog, I must be in the wrong place.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 8 2024 5:24 utc | 283

Reante: France is a confluence of ethnicities from Celt, Roman, German, Basque, Jew, Syrian, etc. There has been no so-called “purity” there since the time of the Romans. Moreover it was for centuries an empire: so-called ethnic “purity” and empire don’t mix, no pun intended. Don’t you know that Rome itself brought to Europe millions of slaves from the throughout Asia, North Africa, as well as most parts of Europe?
As for Jews, both Ashkenazi and Sephardim, they are the very definition of mixed race (what the Spanish would call “mestizos”), there’s nothing purely Semitic about them. Rather they are an admixture of the semitic, the Mediterranean, the Slavic, the Germanic, the Iberian, the Roman, the Berber, etc. Indeed, why do think Jewish intellectuals have experienced so much existential angst over the centuries, if not because of the insecurities they felt as Asiatic métis in Europe? Classic example being Kafka. But evidently you troll or are just woefully uninformed in regards to just about everything you’ve discussed.

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 8 2024 5:25 utc | 284

@Ornot | Oct 8 2024 1:08 utc | 212

Norwegian was asking about Galant, I read he was on Fox news (Galant, not Norwegian) but not sure if he was dancing or reciting.
Funny how all these figures keep disappearing and reappearing…or is it all to create a sense of importance and urgency ?

Thanks for noticing. One can never be sure, but now it seems more likely than not that Galant is still available to commit more crimes.
As for the successor to Hassan Nasrallah, Hashem Safieddine, there is no real confirmation. I believe it is possible he is still alive, but Hezbollah may have chosen to say nothing. And if he is dead it would still be wise to not confirm anything.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 8 2024 5:29 utc | 285

fucking Mike Pence, see the third/fourth link, Mick Wallace’s response to Pence below.
https://x.com/OgbeniDemola/status/1843233822118470141
Ademọ́lá. @OgbeniDemola
Those who colonized the whole world are trying to convince us that resistance to colonialism is terrorism.
https://x.com/TimesOF_Lebanon/status/1843153733653578062
Lebanon Times 🇱🇧 @TimesOF_Lebanon
Pakistanis came out on the streets to show solidarity with their’s Palestinians brothers.
https://x.com/wallacemick/status/1843164534900687127
Mick Wallace @wallacemick
America stands with Israeli Genocide…
https://x.com/Mike_Pence/status/1843005650579689516
Mike Pence @Mike_Pence
America Stands With Israel🇺🇸🇮🇱

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 5:31 utc | 286

@Jon_in_AU | Oct 8 2024 1:10 utc | 215
I agree with this view.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 8 2024 5:32 utc | 287

If you think French bloodlines are polluted by intermarriage, your place is with Blinken and Trump. But as you are probably an ignorant yank, you could get in a time machine and go back to Apartheid South Africa for perfect comfort.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 8 2024 5:02 utc | 281
I didn’t say polluted I said diluted. And I also said it wasn’t a value statement.
I’m not asking you to juggle but just two hold two opposing ideas at the same.

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 5:41 utc | 288

Re: Body Counts
A IDF commander of a drone group attacking Gaza was interviewed a while back ( I think he commanded the 200th brigade or battalion )
He was quoted as saying his units would shoot to clear a street. Those that didn’t run away would then be killed. He was quoted as saying his unit killed 6,000 people that way. Every one a terrorist
Suspect this is consistent throughout the IDF.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 5:46 utc | 289

Do you mean the Arabs who rejected a peace deal that would have led to a Palestinian state in 2000?
Cognitive Dissonance you display.
Posted by: Thought Thinker | Oct 7 2024 19:34 utc | 100
The Palestinians have rightly rejected the Bantustan that your apartheid entity tried to impose on them with the help of your North American sugar daddy.
Speaking of apartheid entities, what happened to that other racist ethnocracy with whom your lot were previously so closely allied, your partners in crime so to speak?
Mind you, in today’s world, the barbarism of your 19th century excrescence makes the white colonial regimes of Southern Africa, your former allies, look positively civilised.

Posted by: Lengai | Oct 8 2024 6:49 utc | 290

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 8 2024 5:25 utc | 286
I’m generally aware of all that. Like I said, Hitler viewed all consequences of imperialism as negative – past imperialism and future imperialism.
Do you see any positive consequences of imperialism? Are there any benefits of imperialism that outweigh what was lost? If not then you and Hitler agree on that point.

Posted by: reante | Oct 8 2024 6:56 utc | 291

fyi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6odzCtLPb4
Iran Warns Israel BIGGER Strike Coming, Hezbollah OVERWHELMS IDF Invasion w/ Prof. Mohammad Marandi
with Danny Haiphong
Prof. Mohammad Marandi (https://x.com/s_m_marandi) returns to assess not only Iran’s massive response to Israel but also the upcoming counter response from the IDF in the context of the exploding regional war in the Middle East as the US/Israel inflame a regional war spinning out of control.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 8 2024 7:19 utc | 292

John Elmer review of last week’s Iraqi and Yemeni anti-genocide operations. He counts 4 strikes on military targets per day over a 7 day period just from the Iraqis. (10 minutes)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1-8GE3E1am4&pp=ygUTZWxlY3Ryb25pYyBpbnRpZmFkYQ%3D%3D
Elmer reviews the Southern and Northern Fronts in follow up videos

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 7:19 utc | 293

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 1:56 utc | 232
Allegedly Iran nuclear sites are buried deep in granite.
Very difficult target.
Pil rigs are possibly easier but there is risk of wrecking havoc on the energy markets.
Given the tracking record of Israel it will be some kind of terroristic attack trying to hit more civilians as possible pretending to have targeted some high politic/military guy.
My2cents

Posted by: Mario | Oct 8 2024 7:29 utc | 294

Posted by: Dharma | Oct 8 2024 7:40 utc | 297

Revelation 18
1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
2 With a mighty voice he shouted: “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil [1] spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5 for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.
6 Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. Mix her a double portion from her own cup.
7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, `I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.’
8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
9 “When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her.
10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry: “`Woe! Woe, O great city, O Babylon, city of power! In one hour your doom has come!’
11 “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more —
12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble;
13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and bodies and souls of men.
14 “They will say, `The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your riches and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’
15 The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn
16 and cry out: “`Woe! Woe, O great city, dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet, and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’ “Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off.
18 When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, `Was there ever a city like this great city?’
19 They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out: “`Woe! Woe, O great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour she has been brought to ruin!
20 Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.'”
21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said: “With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.
22 The music of harpists and musicians, flute players and trumpeters, will never be heard in you again. No workman of any trade will ever be found in you again. The sound of a millstone will never be heard in you again.
23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world’s great men. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth.”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 8 2024 8:06 utc | 295

If you are going to drop 80 2000lb of these bunker bombs to kill Nasrallah and then try the same to kill the next guy. I’m not surprised there is seismic activity in that area of the world known for earthquakes. Not to mention how many other bombs have been dropped in a year.
There’s always earthquakes in Israel, Iran, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Israel is playing with fire. They are due a big earthquake. Everybody would say it is a sign from god.
I remember reading somewhere when Russia was planning their nuclear response during the cold war, they targeted the fault line on America’s West Coast and Yellowstone national Park.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they all know each other’s in the Middle East.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 8 2024 8:09 utc | 296

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-prays-for-release-of-oct-7-hostages-at-ohel-chabad-lubavitch-in-new-york/
Non Yiddish speakers can assume that ‘Matzeiva’ translates as ‘chances of winning the election’.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 8 2024 8:19 utc | 297

https://x.com/Maraki378/status/1843378445344223679?t=UXygdZFnbnDODB_B4Q9Tag&s=19
Michaelj72 227 it was a puppy rescue photo they altered
If you tell enough lies you become israel

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 8 2024 8:20 utc | 298

Map of the Main Seismic Sources of Israel
https://eq.gsi.gov.il/en/hazards/faults.php
500 hypersonic’s should do it. Iran doesn’t need a nuclear bomb. Of course might trigger some blow back in their own countries.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Iran already has these fault lines targeted.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 8 2024 8:21 utc | 299

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 8 2024 8:19 utc | 300
According to Hussain Makke, these bombs being dropped in Lebanon are specifically targeting Shia areas. To kill them and force them out. To try and away the next election result.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 8 2024 8:30 utc | 300

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