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October 11, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-241

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …

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In honor & remembrance of long past practice of b & DeAnanders semi-regular submissions & a semi-formal practice of Art submissions/Music/Poetry/etc in OT, to briefly take us beyond the often overwhelming core content of the major threads … especially given current situ/ongoing events …
Celtic Melodies: Songs from the Heart of Ireland, Scotland & Wales
(Youtube 1h16m31s) Visualized.
Still Steel
Peace Salaam Shalom

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc | 1

@Outraged | Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc
Thanks for that. Much welcomed.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 14:05 utc | 2

Who runs Bartertown? I know that none of this is funny, but check out “Hymietown”, Eddie Murphy SNL. After Jesse Jackson called New York City Hymietown in 1984.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 11 2024 14:09 utc | 3

Thank you, Outraged. Here is my contribution. I saw him play once, in Washington, DC, my freshman year in college.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 14:42 utc | 4

I did some digging with respect to Kamala Harris, and it wasn’t just her first two jobs that her boyfriend Slick Willie gave to her whilst they were dating. Afterwards, in 1998 when he was Mayor of San Francisco she was hired as an Assistant DA in San Francisco. Hired by the elected SF DA who was a Democrat, over whom Willie Brown had a significant amount of political sway. Then in 2002 she was hired by the SF City Attorney who reported directly to Mayor Willie Brown. Then in 2003 getting elected as SF DA, while Brown was still Mayor and still incredibly influential within the Democratic Party.
So now she had an important elected position, and through Brown had made a huge number of contacts in the SF Democratic elite such as Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi. As DA she also worked with the new mayor, Getty family sock puppet Gavin Newsom. She was now fully sponsored by the Democratic Party royalty as an oligarch-compliant racialized woman. It was Barabra Boxer’s congressional seat that she took over in 2017, which due to the strange California electoral process had her running against another Democrat while being blessed by the whole Cali Dem royalty and the actual holder of the seat. More a selection than an election.
I cover this in my piece The Utter Incompetence of the US Courtier Class Exhibit 1: Kamala Harris, Subservience to the Oligarchy Seems to be Much Less Important Than Competence

Posted by: Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5

@Posted by: Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5
Of course “Much More Important” not “Much Less Important”

Posted by: Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:03 utc | 6

Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen

Viktor Orban: Everyone will agree with me and not with your Left wing lies
“>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-k737ZhP3Q

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7

Roger@1501
Thanks. Kamala’s Foote is the emblematura of political “made women”. Little wonder that so many have labeled her as a “Ho”. She has never been genuinely elected, just selected…as a prime example of one chosen by the Oligarchal class.
The VT site just took a big hit in my estimation, as their former chief, who goes by the cognomen of Johnny Punish just yesterday presented an essay which whored it up for Kamala’s Foote.
Guessing it takes one to know one. Hoping that the Punish hit was a one-off, as Veterans Today does present quite a lot of good takes.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 8

Personally I found Harris’ career as a prosecutor to be a permanent disqualifier, though that should be a recommendation for the “lock’em up crowd,” which is all MAGA and most Democrats. Who she slept with is not a disqualifier. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to enjoy sleeping around too but that just makes her close friends, no?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 9

Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7

I am confident that in the imminent future Ursula will face inescapable legal jeopardy. It will be amusing to watch her chameleon show of seeking a citizenship of convenience.
In which direction will Ursula run when the warrant for her arrest is issued?

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10

Personally I found Harris’ career as a prosecutor to be a permanent disqualifier
Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 9

Harris is a creep. “Spook” and “Dark” don’t qualify as adjectives to describe her. She has such a twisted past. Worse than Trump and then some, but somehow without personal agency. A ghost.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:53 utc | 11

@ Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7
thanks for that.. he really hits hard at 15 minutes in… was she given a chance to respond to him?? it is total bullshit what ursula von der leyen is doing with the commission… she is using it as a tool to try to blugeon hungary or any country that doesn’t fit into her war 24/7 war agenda towards russia.. this would explain why some see her working for the cia/nato, as opposed to the commission i suppose..

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 15:55 utc | 12

@ juliania | Oct 11 2024 14:42 utc | 4
Alas, no operable link ? 🙁
@ Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7
Profound. Gloves off. The rickety cobbled together ‘foundations’ are built on shifting sand. The false center will not hold. Thank you.
@ too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10
USofA, otherwise Australia/Canada/NZ/UK … or if still extant, Israhell ?

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 16:00 utc | 13

@ Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5
good article roger… much appreciated..

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 16:11 utc | 14

OT
I’ve been waiting for an open thread to drop this …
Some of them who tow the party line are libel to loose sight of the tactical strategy and viola, we achieve partial nucular acopalypse.

Posted by: jonku | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 15

@ Ludovic | Oct 11 2024 14:00 utc | 5
This is in reply to the cited post on the Palestine thread, but I am putting it here since it would be off topic there.
Yes, the US has long tried to tout its championing human rights in a world where, mainly because of exclusionary, murderous, and often genocidal nationalisms those rights are often ignored. And yes, it has at the same time hypocritically carried on vendettas against particular countries. But that is only the tip of the iceberg; there is also a bigger reason why the US in general lies when it claims to champion human rights, a flaw that it actually essential to its whole system.
That is this: The US oligarchical republic nominally works on a constitution and a long-established rule of law, with an electoral system and theoretical equal rights for all. Alongside this system, whose elected officials constitute what Ferdinand Lundberg called the “pubpols” in his 1968 book The Rich and the Superrich, there are the owners of superwealth, themselves formed into dynasties of inherited wealth over time, whom he calls the “finpols.” The capitalist system of ownership is the very antithesis of so-called “democracy,” a word touted about the US that should by no means be allowed to be applied or ever left uncontested. Corporate ownership of everything, which spread from industry to the farm and now even to private housing, turns everyone into slaves, except that in slavery the slaveholders had to pay, if a little, to keep the slaves alive, whereas in our current system they pay or try to pay nothing.
So, while US citizens and green-card holders nominally have rights before the law in court, in fact the corporate dictatorship can get rid of anyone by firing them, thereby depriving them of their livelihood, and this becomes more absolute as fewer and fewer are self-employed, and those that are still have to deal every day with the corporate system. In governance, it is dictatorial and wholly authoritarian, definitely not “democratic” in any respect. While a corporation does not have the right to summarily execute people, by depriving them of their livelihood and living, it comes close to the same thing. And sometimes it goes beyond the boundaries of the corporation itself by trying vengefully to prevent them from gaining any other living either, as we see effected by various enterprises headed by the screaming banshees of Zionism. Furthermore, with health care mostly tied to work, fired people are stripped of their medical care as well, so everyone lives in terror of that. Is this not really terrorism?
Furthermore, as opportunities for profit become less lucrative or disappear altogether, capitalists try to cut costs and maximize profits with all the more insistence. Their unsustainable bottom line is: “You pay us for everything, and you get nothing in return.” That is their ideal, a pure rentier existence where everyone works to support them but has to fend for themselves to survive. Where are there any human rights in that? They would privatize the public streets and sidewalks if they could. They are complete, murderous, genocidal parasites. Yet, if you asked them, they would say, “Oh, no, we’re just looking out for our families like you all are.”
The US should never be allowed to speak about human rights, nor “democracy” either.

Posted by: Cabe | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 16

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc | 1
Unmitigated schmaltz. Pass the sick-bag.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 11 2024 16:36 utc | 17

@ Outraged | Oct 11 2024 16:00 utc | 13

@ juliania | Oct 11 2024 14:42 utc | 4
Alas, no operable link ? 🙁

Possibly Juliania was responding to your earlier link to Ella F. and Louis A.
Thanks for that btw, it led to some other nice cuts too. I caught ’em both in Portland
Or., Louis mid 60s and Ella mid 70s (with Joe Pass).
Anytime Louis is mentioned I think of this which I have posted before but always fun:
What a Wonderful World hand-puppetry

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18

Sorry, Outraged at Oct 11 2024 16:00 utc | 13. I enjoyed your musical offering at Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc | 1 this morning very much.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 16:46 utc | 19

Here, with apologies to all, is my ‘offering’ intended above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCeebWgjrrU

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 16:51 utc | 20

@ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18
what a work of art! that is amazing!!
@ juliania – segovia is pretty good too!
@ outraged..
i think i got celticed out going to nova scotia…

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 17:41 utc | 21

@ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18
You’ve gifted that once before. Extra-ordinary. Cheers
@ juliania | Oct 11 2024 16:51 utc | 20
Remarkable, passionate. No sorry accepted. 😉 Peace

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 17:47 utc | 22

At the risk of repeating myself ad nauseum…. we are in the midst of a Global Jewish civil war, whether it be tail or head, it’s all hound from hell. Similar to the left wing or right wing, they both belong to the same bird of prey. Ashkenazi vs Mizrahi…. they both believe that they alone are special and chosen. It ultimately will result in Humanity vs Judaism.
BTW, the plan-n-scam was brought to you by a very special cult….

President of Israel and GPF Co-Founder and Chairman Present the 2022 “Jewish Nobel” Prize to Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla
Dr. Albert Bourla was announced as the 9th Genesis Prize Laureate in January 2022. The award recognizes his leadership in delivering a vaccine against COVID-19, which saved millions of lives during the pandemic. The Genesis Prize also celebrates the boldness of his vision and willingness to assume risks, which enabled delivery of the vaccine in record time.

https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.genesisprize.org%2Fpress-center%2F2022-06-29-president-of-israel-presents-the-2022-jewish-nobel-prize-to-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-in-jerusalem%23%3A%7E%3Atext%3DAlbert%2520Bourla%2520was%2520announced%2520as%2Cof%2520lives%2520during%2520the%2520pandemic.%3ARqtUBj_vTyc_mMIg9lTXipp0Ywo&cuid=7424178

Posted by: majoab | Oct 11 2024 17:52 utc | 23

@Outraged, #1; @waynorinnorway, #18:
Thank you both for these two wonderful links!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 17:54 utc | 24

If we’re going to get all folky, folks, you can’t beat this with a stick:
Фольклорный ансамбль Тува в Красноярске

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25

To continue my apology – I haven’t returned here in a bit, since I began to study the passage in the OT on which Netanyahu has based his rampage in Gaza and Lebanon. The verses he uses from the first Book of Samuel are only a partial rendering of what is meaningfully happening, as, earlier in the text, the people of Israel have decided for themselves that they want to be ‘like other nations’ and have a king over them. Which, in spite of Samuel’s strong warning against this decision, they wilfully insist upon doing. (The passage in question is 1 Samuel 8: 7-20.) My understanding of the later passage Netanyahu relies on is that it is a lesson about what not to do, what results because the kingship of God has been wrongfully delegated to Saul. Saul does wrong, yes, but not because he is not acting as God would act, but because kingship has just been taken from God and given to man. The lesson is that decisions over who is to live and who is to die are not man’s decisions (because he can make the wrong ones), even if kingship itself is left to be decided by the people. You want to be kings? Here is what happens then. It’s on you.
Netanyahu and his political confraternity have completely misunderstood the message of this passage in their own Scripture. Contrast the judgment of Solomon in the case of the two women claiming one child. Solomon’s decision is a human one – he does not kill the child. He suggests that solution – and in doing so reveals who the real mother of the child is, solving the problem without bloodshed. That will perhaps be how Israel’s problem is to be solved – who really belongs in the land of Palestine? Not the murderers and destroyers; those who love it, all of it and all of its people. Give it to them.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:00 utc | 26

Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7
Victor Orban was all in, in the war with Russia. Listen to the whole speech at the EU. His plan for victory to bring Serbia into the EU and his plan for the Baltic states. Expanding the Eurozone further.
Straight from the Danube Institute think tank strategy.
He then saw Russia was going to win and he started speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Was worried about losing cheap energy rather than trying to steal it via regime change in Russia.
His peace plan ( again if you Listen to the whole speech ) is once again straight out of the Danube Institute think tank. Which is run by London.
Freeze the conflict and change the strategy as this strategy is not working.
HERE
The original plan.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/02/21/defusing-ukraine/
Orban’s plan now Russia is winning. He wants a freeze to create the Bucharest eleven defence plan. Desperately needs Serbia in board.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2023/03/20/what-will-ukraine-mean-for-security-alliances/
The Bucharest eleven on NATO’s eastern flank: Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia, Finland, Sweden.
To create a “European Commonwealth” that would unite the countries of Scandinavia, the Baltics, and Eastern Europe that wanted to take a stronger position than Core Europe has on Ukrainian policy.
Poland’s “Three Seas Initiative” that brought together Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and (more recently) Ukraine.
Their propaganda machine.
USAID’s newly launched work to help support democracy in Central Europe, including by bolstering civil society and helping independent media build new audiences” (USAID official statement). What this might mean in practice was hinted in Power’s article in Foreign Affairs in which she revealed, inter alia, that USAID and the rest of G-7 plan to spend $600 billion in public and private investment to support democracy, oppose autocracy, assist new democratic forces (women, worker organizations, youth, etc.), finance independent media, and fight disinformation.
Russian victory:
The combined population of such a conglomeration would be roughly 220 million people. By contrast, the combined population of the member states of the Three Seas Initiative, the broadest regional bloc proposed in Central and Eastern Europe, is, without Ukraine, only 110 million, a half of the population of a potential greater Russian grouping.
Russian failure :
Russia would be reduced to the Union State of Russia and Belarus. The two countries have a combined population of 154 million. On the side of the Three Seas Initiative, if we add Ukraine to it as well, its population also amounts to about 154 million people. With a two-to-one population ratio in the case of a Russian victory, as opposed to a one-to-one ratio in the case of a Ukrainian victory, the geopolitical picture is pretty clear.
Orban was all in. Don’t kid yourself otherwise

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:03 utc | 27

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10
Many of old German/Prussian State lost their; ‘von’ nomenclature-all but the ‘die hard Nazis’!

Posted by: canuck | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 28

The main question that has been racking my brain is:
“Why are all the West’s political class completely insane?”
They seem to be totally deluded, crazy, incompetent, and unable to make any kind of rational decision, even in the face of onrushing catastrophe.
I can only think of a handful who are not like this: Jeremy Corbyn, Victor Orban, and Tulsi Gabbard, from different parts of the political spectrum…obviously there are a few more but the entire class is crazy.
For example, it took 150 years for Germany to industrialise, and it only took two to wreck it. The treasonous culprits are German politicians.
They cannot all be:
a. Psychopaths (though plenty are)
b. Compromised by the Deep State and malleable
c. Slaves of zionism
d. Totally in thrall to their donors
Can they?
Quite a few internet posters are trying to understand this, including Roger (above) and Karloff1. It just baffles me that they could ALL be so stupid, and self-destructive.
For example, in February 2022, I knew that Russia would win in Ukraine and sanctions wouldn’t work, before B put up an excellent article explaining how they would be useless.
What I didn’t imagine that NATO weapons would be so completely inadequate and the West would gleefully send them to be destroyed, demilitarising itself. It should have been clear to the stupidest person in the aftermath of the Summer 2023 offensive, seeing the graveyards of burnt “wunderwaffen” that Ukraine couldn’t win, but the West still continues, even after the military debacle of ‘Kursk II: the sequel: more burning Panzers’.
Yet there is still pushing for war by VdL and other dunderheads.
Aside, there was an internet rumour recently that Keir Starmer had a big, dark secret. I joked that he was a secret deep-cover agent of SPECTRE (the James Bond villains) tasked with destroying Britain from the inside. But he might as well be…he’s completely out of his depth as PM.
The late Andrew Lobaczewski’s Political Ponerology (the study of political evil) has found new interest:
https://ponerology.substack.com/

Political Ponerology is the underground classic book by Polish psychologist Andrew M. Lobaczewski. This is the first substack to be devoted exclusively to elucidating and expanding on its content, written by the editor of the new revised, expanded edition.
Political ponerology is the scientific study of political evil. Along the way, we will cover: psychopathy and other personality disorders, mass hysteria, other psychological phenomena, secular cycles, ideology, propaganda, totalitarianism, and more.

I can’t understand why the lot of them would destroy their own countries and societies. The childish behaviour is beyond belief.

Posted by: JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29

@ malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25
Roots of the Flat Tire Shuffle.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 18:11 utc | 30

@JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29
Thank you for this post. I have asked myself the exact same question and I don’t know the answer…

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 18:14 utc | 31

This is Orban’s thinking. This is how he views the world.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2024/10/nato-for-realists/
Short game failed so he will continue with the long term plan. Just listen to his whole speech at the EU.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:20 utc | 32

Just listen to his whole speech at the EU.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:20 utc | 32

Will Orban’s speech change the course of the Danube?
Watersheds are natural political boundaries and the Danube flows into the Black Sea.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 18:25 utc | 33

“Orban was all in. Don’t kid yourself otherwise”
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:03 utc | 27
That’s irrelevant; what is relevant is that Orban finally came to his senses why not the rest of the EU ‘puppypack’

Posted by: canuck | Oct 11 2024 18:32 utc | 34

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18
Loved that, thank you, waynorinorway.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:35 utc | 35

@malenkov, #25:
Thanks for this one too 🙂

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 18:43 utc | 36

Mozambicans go to the polls soon to elect an new president – Mozambique has huge gas reserves in the North of the country – and the people of the country like all African countries – want these resources to go to helping the people of the country – which they should, however Western proxy fighter groups, such as ISIS – are on the rampage in the North of the country – to try and keep the region in a state of chaos, and ultimately, to allow foreign energy firms to exploit what isn’t theirs.
Lets hope whoever the people of Mozambique elect – can drive these Western backed proxy fighters out of the country, once and for all.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:43 utc | 37

India is to build two-nuclear submarines – and it will buy 31 weaponised MQ-9B Predator drones, from the US for $4 billion dollars – all this is with one eye on China, to try and counter it in the region if needs be.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:48 utc | 38

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:03 utc | 27
Better check your math or data.
If the block without Ukraine has 110 millions, the block with Ukraine will never reach 154 millions, meaning 44 millions of Ukraine residents.
Same goes for the other hypothesis.
And, no, it’s not about the number of people.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:02 utc | 39

@ malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25
Like it. Brings to mind Mongolias modern folk music revival groups, deep guttural booming bass.
@ JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29
Um. Kompromat, in person, digital, or framed. Consequence of overwhelming, full spectrum propaganda indoctrination, on full blast from birth to death. Sign-up to Empire Wurlitzer show, or subsist, insecurely, at risk, on the fringe. Lack critical thinking, logical, rational reasoning, assessment, analysis abilities, especially as a result of Edu system deliberately ‘dumbing down’ designated ‘Work Units’ last 3 decades. 3rd generation Nazi/Auxiliaries, former extinct outer court offspring/beneficiaries re former royal/prince/king/emperor/warlord families/dictators/etc. Conditioned by societies that wholesomely embrace a sanitized, civilized framework of/or forget, their genocidal, slaving, rapine, conquering colonizing past & spoils/priviledges, & it’s evermore masked/sophisticated iterations since post WWII, especially ’50s/’60s onwards. Base Avarice. No knowledge, insight, interest, concern for or relevance of history/humanity. Living in the moment, overwhelmed, trying to get by, imposed short & shallow memory recall as consequence of limited time & multiple stressors/exhaustion, overwhelmed by tech unreality/demands. Hedonistic & indifferent. Atomized/shattered communities, due sophisticated, multi-spectrum all encompassing overt & covert internally sustained imposed ever enhanced divide & rule, internally divisive. Arch-opportunists & sociopaths …
FIIK o_O

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 40

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:48 utc | 38
Are the same drones that houtis regularly take down in the ME?
I suppose not a big challenge for China.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 41

That’s irrelevant; what is relevant is that Orban finally came to his senses why not the rest of the EU ‘puppypack’
Posted by: canuck | Oct 11 2024 18:32 utc | 34
He hasn’t came to his senses at all. Listen to the whole speech.
1. Stick with the long term plan to defeat Russia.
2. All in , let’s try the short term plan to defeat Russia.
3. Ooops, let’s get a freeze and go back to the long term plan to defeat Russia.
He’s another Erdogan, if you stand next to him check your pockets.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42

JulianJ@29….So you think NATO gave all its kit, it’s best most precious pieces of equipment to Ukraine….if that were the case Russia would be at the Polish border already, they are not. Hmm, ponder that. They still control less than 20% of 404.
I’d suggest those doing victory laps on Russia’s behalf, maybe keep an eye over your shoulder….just sayin.
Cheers M
….what the US and NATO did do, they scoured the earth for every piece of kit useable or not to give to 404, but why, because it has tied the Russians down all along the LOCC …to the point where Russia parked most of its best kit, and switched to WW2 technology with a FABulous modern twist….
It sure will be a fun discussion should Russia settle for what it has now, because before the ink is dry, NATO with all its best kit (currently in Poland, Romania and the Baltics) will rush right up to the LOCC and plant an EU flag.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 11 2024 19:08 utc | 43

@ Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 41
From $60-120-180M (USD) a piece … Ansar Allah has shot down at least a dozen(IIRC)

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:08 utc | 44

Algeria flexes its muscles – against its former colonialist oppressor.
Algeria has barred French companies from competing for a wheat import contract and ordered participating firms not to supply grain produced in the country, Reuters has reported, citing trading sources. The North African nation is currently engaged in a diplomatic standoff with France.
Algeria has begun to buy its wheat from Russia.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45

Can there be socialism without finacializaton?
Can there be finacializaton without capitalism?
Can there be capitalism without industrialization?
Can there be industrialization without collectivism?
Can there be collectivism without communism?
How would an industrialist transform an agrarian blank sheet from Alpha to Omega?
Maybe by harnessing the struggle of the masses.
Step by step.
Iteration by iteration.
Making markets out of human struggle.
‘Hey comrade, you carry this bag for me,’

Posted by: LunarDegree33 | Oct 11 2024 19:15 utc | 46

With Gaza and Lebanon in mind – I’d say those Western proxy states fear reprisals from Iran – if the Zionists strike the Iranian energy sector.
“Several Arab states in the Persian Gulf have lobbied the US to restrain Israel from striking Iranian oil facilities, fearing that Tehran could take revenge by hitting their production and disrupting global markets.
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates have reportedly told Washington they will not allow Israeli jets to use their airspace for an attack.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:18 utc | 47

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 40
Tx, great stream.
Did you used to write for G. Carlin, lol.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 19:20 utc | 48

@ Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45
Algeria is very aware of its French colonizing occupation & the true nature of Empire. Ended bid to join BRICS+, but stayed in group’s Development Bank …
See: For example, the Battle for Algiers.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:22 utc | 49

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42
You raise some valid points.
I do agree with you that Orban is utilizing an ‘Erdogan approach’ to get to the middle where he can negotiate the best deal for his Sovereign country’ at the same time, it is, admittedly, a bit ‘whore like’; however, Orban is smart enough to know when the tide is turning and change his political direction-excuse the mixed metaphor.
Anyways, IMO, its a good mark for a leader whom works for the best possible deal for his Sovereign, especially when it is middling power like Hungary.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 11 2024 19:24 utc | 50

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 40
Tx, great stream.
Did you used to write for G. Carlin, lol.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 19:20 utc | 48
I agree -a bit Joycean, like ‘Ulysses’-well done.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 11 2024 19:29 utc | 51

@Outraged, #44:
Yeah! What brought down those MQ-9s probably costs only tens of thousands USD a piece.
What the Houtis did to US carrier earlier, and now to MQ-9s, shows given modern gadgets sandal-warriors can face down Zionists anytime, especially in domains familiar as well friendly to “freedom fighters”. Arabs are no intellectually inferior to jehovah’s chosen murderers. So, Israelis shooting at/killing Chinamen humanitarian workers sent to Beirut? All China needs to do is to use 1% of its manufacturing power to supply sandal-men (well, they may even supply boots too, so sandal-men won’t burn their feet on hot sands), and that enclave of Zionists hugging the banks of Jordan River and the sea has an existential issue on hand!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:31 utc | 52

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 11 2024 16:36 utc | 17
Unmitigated schmaltz. Pass the sick-bag.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:35 utc | 53

@Sun of Alabama, #42:
Orban isn’t going all in. Orban is only doing what a rational national leader would do in matters that deeply concern his/her constituency. If he doesn’t do what he did to de Leyen, he would have gone all in to surrender his mandate, as Scholz/macron/Stoltenberg et al have done over the past 3 years.
Asad went all in. So did the 4 new states of Donbass. For these, they still exist as sovereign states today. Had they caved in, they would have Gone all in to shame, as UK/Oz/Franco/Deutsche have shown us. History book will not be kind to most of Nordic and West Europe!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:41 utc | 54

@ Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:35 utc | 53
I prefer Ravi’s daughter Nora. This new artist is good too.
Bluesette by Toots Thielemans (arr. Roland Dyens) ==> https://youtu.be/-18btqJz2g8

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 19:45 utc | 55

To JulianJ and Norwegian. I have been asking myself the same question. There seems to be some higher level of lunacy going on. I apologize for not giving links, but I will give sources. Recently, after announcing that the First Amendment gets in the way of “governing,” Kerry made the insane announcement at a WEF meeting, according to him the behest of Biden, that he had decided that methane is killing the world, and that the only way to stop it is to reduce agriculture by 60% worldwide. Amazingly, thirteen countries have “signed on” for this insanity. Questions: Who exactly signed. Who authorized them to sign. How was this forced and how will it be enforced. Did anyone ask the farmers? Landowners? Citizens? Sources: articles posted in Global Research. Comment: on the face of this, Kerry et al are planning another genocide. Just like in Gaza. Withholding food, water and medical help is genocide. Another word is murder.
And. Hurricane Helene. It is now over a week out. The city of Asheville has no water. All water mains were washed away. An estimated 750,000 people are still without electricity. Bribem sent 1000 generators to 404 and hundreds of transformers. There are a few generators and NO transformers for NC. And, the Baxter plant which makes 65% of the IV
solution for the entire country was inundated. No power. Roads out etc. They are trying to restart, but rationing of IV solution for the Entire country is in effect. There are still unidentified bodies in Asheville, Spruce Pine and many of the little outback towns. Roads are still out. FEMA is MIA. Local citizens are going in on foot and on mules on search and rescue missions. Known dead: over 240 people. Estimated death toll due to lack of water, food, medicine and exposure: as high as 25,000. sources: Zero Hedge and Catherine Austin Fitts Solari Report.
Thinking. This is more than “merely” the deaths of lots of people. i40 is one of the main east-west routes in murika. It’s essentially closed. The bridge in Baltimore, on of the main north-south routes in murika is still out. The grid is in horrible shape. Most medicines are imported, or from China of from such stellar scoundrels as Teva, the Izzy company recently indited for price fixing… speaking of killers, Izzyhell has been targeting UN troops AGAIN… nothing happens. Lots of speechifying then more killing… So who wants murika to fail? Why is there so much money for wars of conquest and nothing for the homeland? The living breathing people of the home land?
It’s easy to get caught up in the gory day to day…but stepping back there seems to be a larger inflection point, a geoengineering scheme of the WEF on behalf of the rottensheilds, rottenfellahs et al…
As an antidote I offer Cesaria Evora and a purple iris from my garden, neither of which Bill Gates could create ion his most powerful diabolical test-tube. No links. Apologies. Best wishes. From a person who lost friends in the mountains of NC.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:41 utc | 54
He was all in until he realised he was getting pumped by Russia. The penny suddenly dropped he lost his cheap energy.
Listen to his speech he still talks of a victory to Ukraine. How it can be achieved. Not my words – his exact words.
He is back to his long term strategy of defeating Russia. Since the Blitzkrieg strategy didn’t work.
His deep concern of his constituency was the voters would turn against him when he supported the war. So he now plays both sides of the fence.
With the election results in France and Germany. Macron and Sholz will end up sounding like Orban soon enough. They are just a bunch of grifters that hate Russia. Don’t let them fool you.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:56 utc | 57

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 19:45 utc | 55
Just listening, Lovely! Norah’s got a fine voice.
I kind of like it all, even this:
https://youtu.be/DmL12NRE4hQ?si=ib8mOrOwneOuwo4r
From Russia with Love. Me emigrate now LOL.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:58 utc | 58

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42
The same countries which attacked the URSS in 1941 are waging war on Russia now, with one exception: Hungary.

Posted by: Passerby | Oct 11 2024 20:11 utc | 59

@Sun, #57:
European pols don’t fool me :-). I agree with you them being a bunch of grifters who hate Russia on a subconscious level.
The sunset of UK has been obvious since the late 60’s (when sterling took the 25% depreciation). The sunset of Europe has become noticeable since 2014 (Maidan), and became a crying-out-loud shame since the bursting of Nordstream II.
Hallelujah!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 20:11 utc | 60

Posted by: Luis | Oct 11 2024 20:16 utc | 62
It always gives me goosebumps. Pablo is really playing in the moment.

Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 11 2024 20:24 utc | 61

@ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 19:20 utc | 48
Most welcome. Who be dis George fella you mention ? Oops. 😉
Overlooked, exploitation & manipulation of extant religions, as well as manufactured, artificial & synthetic faux religions & cult/cult like pseudo religions, and their extremely vulnerable devotees/exploited victim/cattle. Internally parasitic subornation of the host entity, especially via targeted strategic assassination programs to rapid propel & advance medium term prepped deep cover covert operatives into key &/or leadership roles to suborn and control the unaware entity/org, membership, corrupt & misdirect their basic beliefs and launch them, misdirected, against Empires enemies, whilst falsely claiming through the narrative foghorn Empires is committed it’s crimes & wars in order to defeat their own manufactured/supported/controlled enemies. Retain and rally an defeated remnants, re-org, reinvigorate, wind-em-up, and set loose again as required. Blame the ills of the world/self justify Empire, on their own manufactured faux threat proxies. Enables & facilities further MICC theft/funding, graft, profit uber alles to 1%, 0.1%, additional deluded committed ‘legitimate’ Empire recruits to oppose/destroy faux controlled enemy & supports falsity of being the good guy in the white hats, in defense of BS, Freedom/Democracy, R2P & no F*rking cheese eating surrender monkey French Fries. Would you like some Freedom Fries with that ?
See: Moonies, Mormons, Falung Gong, MEK, GLADIO, Stay behind Cells, Drug Cartels, Mafia orgs, PMCs, uncounted roaring ever present ever referenced/quoted faux/suborned Stinktanks/foundations/NGOs/Credible(?) academic/military/political/societal talking heads, Warporn tittilation/armaments propaganda online entities, One-eyed Empire “Kill ’em All”/”Commit war crimes in virtual environments”, trained-conditioned to suppress basic human instinct/reluctance not to shoot straight or kill another human being” game developers/producers/designers/stormtrooper recruiters, ISIS(including all faux derivatives), suborned Chechens, subverted repurposed/redirected resistance group cells, etc, etc, Who never ever attack Empire or Vassals other than for Propaganda narrative sustainment purposes/conveniently timed distractions, and are never targeted by Israhell, in fact get free medical care & pensions when they cross into Occupied Territories …
Signal lost … stream ends
@ Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:31 utc | 52
Just like RF objective, demilitarization, of Empire, Empires corrupt endemic/systemic/entrenched ‘profit over all’, warporn junk production/sales is only able to be manufactured in dribs & drabs at exorbitant cost. IE $2-6M USD to take down a $20K drone, a $50K missile, a $100K-200K ballistic missile, and ya gotta fire two per incoming to obtain the possibility of high probability of interception in defense of multi-billion (useless)Patriot battery, Theater AD/BM radar system, aging rusting DDG/Carrier (goes boom/glug glug).
Defender must, must, always succeed, or ? Hence, self imposed restraint, to protect ever diminishing irreplaceable high value assets, self nullification of force projection, psychological accentuated reluctance to risk committement due to Operational/Strategic/career consequences, including Propaganda narrative sustainment collapse re superpower myth. Defeated without firing many a shot … fewer fatalities …
Not a viable medium, even short term, proposition/strategy/contestation. Almost 3 years since SMO, one year since liberation war for Occupied Territories … and counting.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 20:25 utc | 62

Posted by: Luis | Oct 11 2024 20:16 utc | 62
Muy triste.
To me it says that the madness will stop only when there is a change of heart. This cannot be the physical heart.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 20:26 utc | 63

@Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56
Thank you for your reply and attempt to explain the insanity. Although it may be 100% correct for all I know, your story is US centric. The phenomenon is much bigger, and can not be explained just by decisions in the US. Clearly there is mass delusion going on in large parts of the western world and even beyond to some degree.
That said, all your points are probably valid.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 20:29 utc | 64

Frank Newman (former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury)
” Why There Will ALWAYS Be Demand For US Treasury Bonds ”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEhE-WJFQA
Or as Michael Hudson describes it .
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/09/debunking-u-s-bankruptcy-myths/
Check mate.
What is really worrying is 99.9% of Moon Of Alabama readers were wrong about this. Not just wrong but living in a fantasy world. An alternate universe.
a) You can blame the education system who should take Children on school trips to the central bank and the treasury. In the same way they take them on other educational trips to museums and zoo’s and nature parks. To teach children how the monetary system really works.
b) But then their games would be exposed and they could no longer keep it in the dark. Their fiscal conservative, sound money socialism, fixed exchange rate propaganda would no longer fool the public.
It is amazing to me that people still believe we have an informed electorate.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 20:33 utc | 65

@ Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56
@ Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 20:29 utc | 66
Just-in-time supply chains are good for maximizing profits at the expense of precarity.
Two of USA’s biggest IV suppliers have been impacted by the recent hurricanes.
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5149344/hurricane-season-iv-fluid-supply-shortage

Flooding from Hurricane Helene in late September shut down one of the largest suppliers of IV fluids in the U.S, a factory in Marion, N.C., about 35 miles outside of Asheville. Owned by Baxter International, the plant made products like saline, sterile water for injection and other fluids that are crucial to the health care system.

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-milton-iv-fluid-supplies-381caf525b556166e7e82fee5826f92c

A Florida factory that makes IV fluids critical to hospitals nationwide will restart Friday morning after shutting down while Hurricane Milton tore through the state.

The consolidation of Capital into a small circle of powerful elites should not be a mystery to anyone.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 20:47 utc | 66

The alternative to Orban is, unfortunately, full idiocracy. There is not a single person with average intelligence among the opposition. The insanity spouted by them is painful.

Posted by: Trebitsch | Oct 11 2024 20:51 utc | 67

Pasquale Grasso – ‘Round Midnight ==> https://youtu.be/o-0VEFfa4SQ

Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 20:57 utc | 68

jonku | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 15

Some of them who tow the party line are libel to loose sight of the tactical strategy and viola, we achieve partial nucular acopalypse.

Sweetie, babes, if you need to go, go, but you really don’t need to do it in public, mmmkay ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:13 utc | 69

@67 SoA
Re: student-loan forgiveness.
Isn’t that more or less the government saying to its people: “We will decide who the lottery winners will be”?
If the idea is to grow resentment among the population, than that kind of loan forgiveness would do the trick.
And it is not because I say this that I do not desire loan forgiveness, only that it must be fair across the board. You can see the privilege bestowed to the college-bound class of people because we know that these are the affluent-background group to begin with.
And it confirms what working-class people think of Marxism/socialism that it favors the managerial-class and not the entrepreneur-class. That there is an academic-industrial complex just as much as there is a medical or military one That it is a ponzi-scheme.
And who would suffer the most with such a forgiveness? Why, those that don’t go to college, of course! Not only do they not see a dime from any such forgiveness program, but their taxes/inflation will no doubt be increased because the money that does not flow to the debt-service will instead flow to purchasing goods and that would mean more money chasing fewer items.
The only way this shit is fixed is collapse. And that is the one thing I am banking on.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 11 2024 21:16 utc | 70

steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 9
“Who she slept with is not a disqualifier.”
In my mind, who you sleep with speaks of your sense of judgement, so it can be very well be a disqualifier.

too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10
All us yearning millions need is just one single arrest warrant to make this woman come down from her power high, but it never comes. Even as in terms of lawfare, it should be a rather simple exercise considering her actions. Throwing away money without any mandate for a country that legally doesn’t concern us (Ukraine)? Randomly stopping the flow of money (Poland, Hungary)? Procuring medications worth billions as a lay-person on the phone (the clot-shots)? She couldn’t possibly have adhered to proscribed procedures down to the last detail, in all of these instances. But sadly, with this fine example of a StrongWoman™ everyone seems to have gone into permissive lordosis.

majoab | Oct 11 2024 17:52 utc | 23
Jesus Christus, that award is downright disgusting. What a circle jerk! I had no idea Bourla was Jewish. I guess the million-dollar question now is: did they all get the saline in the Holy Land, given their fragile demographics? Otherwise, a Darwin Award might be more appropriate.

canuck | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 28
“Many of old German/Prussian State lost their; ‘von’ nomenclature-all but the ‘die hard Nazis’!”
Nah, they may have lost their privileges, but they never lost their titles. Instead, the “von” simply became an integral part of their regular common (“bürgerlich”) name. So the children of Ulrich Graf von Brockdorff-Rantzau would no longer be counts, but would still inherit the name “von Brockdorff-Rantzau”. Even the socialist GDR didn’t change that, see Karl-Eduard von Schnitzler.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 11 2024 21:18 utc | 71

With Hungary rotating presidency of the Council of the European Union and after listening to Orban’s speech.
I predict we are going to see a major effort at Bringing Serbia into the Western fold and change its geopolitics.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 21:29 utc | 72

JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29

The main question that has been racking my brain is:
“Why are all the West’s political class completely insane?”
They seem to be totally deluded, crazy, incompetent, and unable to make any kind of rational decision, even in the face of onrushing catastrophe….
I can’t understand why the lot of them would destroy their own countries and societies. The childish behaviour is beyond belief.

Greed, narcissism, stupidity, narcissism, a bit more greed and let’s be honest good ol’ stupdity !
Oooh, I forgot, greed !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:40 utc | 73

Orban is forging an alliance with Vucic and Serbia……..excellent, they share common issues with NATO and the EU over supplies of natural gas and petroleum, and both are sympathetic to RF…in fact VV Putin and DJ Trump are the most popular political figures in Serbia…..
Serbia has withstood numerous violent attacks from NATO since 1995 including the planned destruction of the Serb Republic of Krajina and the slaughter of Serb civilians, and the confiscation of their farm lands and orchards and vineyards; and the false flag attack on the Serb Republic of Bosnia; and the false flag attack on Kosovo which triggered a 70 day NATO bombing campaign on Serb infrastructure, but resulted in the Serbs downing the first stealth aircraft in history, when the Serb 250th AA Regiment knocked down an F117 (the wreckage was later sold to RF).
EU and NATO deliberately surrounded Serbia with NATO members, and really want to induct the Islamic Republic of Kosovo, and Bosniakland too. They want to continue to repress Serbs in Mitrovica too…….
Orban and Vucic want to assure energy supplies to their countries………time to leave the EU, and tell NATO to shove it….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 21:42 utc | 74

Posts 29 and 31, I have observed only one possible explanation to all you cite: the brazen crazies act out of desperation to accelerate ANY required efforts to cover up the jab deathwave ongoing since mid’21, still rising at pace. Ed Dowd’s team has proven evidence to give weight to an ongoing mortality increase af orders of magnatude. Two family members died from days to two weeks after their jabs while I was overseas, so, yes, I watch that roach quietly crawling in the dark. As should we all.

Posted by: ERing46Z | Oct 11 2024 21:57 utc | 75

@27 Sun of Alabama
Thank you.

Posted by: Soviético | Oct 11 2024 22:15 utc | 76

I do not how many people are aware about the terrible ecological problems in Serbia. Together with quisling government, big corporations like Rio Tinto are starting to dig for lithium in Serbia in the areas full of underground water and destined for agriculture.
President of Serbia is aligned with the most evil people like Alex Soros, Jared Kushner and Benjamin Netanjahu. Serbia is providing 1/3 needs of Ukraine in artillery shells and also selling ammunition to Israel.

Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:16 utc | 77

Orban and Vucic want to assure energy supplies to their countries………time to leave the EU, and tell NATO to shove it….
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 21:42 utc | 81
Bullshit. Serbia is going to rely on expensive US energy.
Only fools in Kremlin do not understand that they are betrayed.
https://www.state.gov/united-states-and-serbia-sign-agreement-on-strategic-cooperation-in-energy/
United States and Serbia Sign Agreement on Strategic Cooperation in Energy
Today, Under Secretary for Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment Jose W. Fernandez and Serbian Foreign Minister Marko Đurić signed an agreement on U.S.-Serbia strategic cooperation in the field of energy in Serbia.

Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:19 utc | 78

Luis,
You changed my mood and my plans for the evening. It will be music and a little wine.
Grazie!
One right back at you…and I’m off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXC9tuumjiA

Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 11 2024 22:23 utc | 79

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:40 utc | 79
You forgot greed!

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 22:29 utc | 80

On the British nuclear weapons question the following is admitted in Ministry of Defence reports:
1) the Vanguard-class submarines are made in the UK – at the Barrow-in-Furness shipyard in Cumbria – many aspects of the design are based on US nuclear submarines. Additionally, many of the system’s components are bought from the US. The gas reservoirs of the warheads are produced in the US, and are filled with tritium there. The body shell, which contains the warhead, is purchased from the US; and the guidance system used by the Trident system is designed and made by Charles Stark Draper Laboratories, also in the US.
2) The trident missiles are leased from the US, and the submarines have to return regularly to the US base in King’s Bay, Georgia, for the maintenance and replacement of the missiles. The British government pays an annual contribution of £12 million towards the cost of this base.
3) The US and Britain signed the Mutual Defence Agreement (MDA) in 1958, a bilateral treaty on nuclear weapons cooperation under which both countries agreed to exchange classified information to develop their respective nuclear weapon systems. The relevant part of the MDA is reviewed and renewed every ten years, most recently in 2014 where the process took place with no parliamentary debate or scrutiny. The treaty permits ‘the transfer between the United States and the United Kingdom of classified information concerning atomic weapons; nuclear technology and controlled nuclear information; material and equipment for the development of defence plans; training of personnel; evaluation of potential enemy capability; development of delivery systems; and the research, development, and design of military reactors’. – What all of this means is that there is no part of the “British” nuclear weapons system that the US government doesn’t have some control over.
4) A defence select committee report from a decade ago concluded with the following – ‘the only way that Britain is ever likely to use Trident is to give legitimacy to a US nuclear attack by participating in it’.
It’s all a brutal rip off you see. A means of arms and tech firms making money and for the British ruling class to pretend that their military has any independent existence. It does not. Everything form the guns the army carry to the fighter jets of the airforce to the nuclear weapons comes from the US. The British ruling class are fine with this because US protection is the only way they get to continue as junior imperialist power but for the rest of us it means US capital asset stripping the country until there’s fuck all left.
“>https://t.me/armc1870/13117

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 22:52 utc | 81

Vargas – Vucic is making a huge mistake if he is believing anything coming out of DC…….they only desire a subservient Serbia………..the entire Nuland strategy was to isolate Serbia militarily and economically and deny Serbia a seaport on the Adriatic………….specifically at Split (former Krajina port city).
The US should never be trusted by any top Serb official, if they do, then they need to be removed from office and replaced pronto…….
Serbia sells ammo and MBT’s to anyone with the cash…………cash or gold on the barrel head……..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 22:53 utc | 82

@ sun of alabama and others…
here is a speech orban gave which was widely shared earlier this year… it doesn’t line up with what you are taking from his talk sun of a..
The most important speech of the decade?
Viktor Orbán on how the war has revealed the reality of the world today

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 22:55 utc | 83

@ vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:16 utc | 86
thanks for sharing your perspective… i can’t remember… do you actually live in serbia, or are you serbian??

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 22:57 utc | 84

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 11 2024 21:18 utc | 76 “In my mind, who you sleep with speaks of your sense of judgement, so it can be very well be a disqualifier.” For political office? I’m sorry, to my mind someone who checks IDs, or does background checks, or even documents sexual encounters is proving themselves to be so Machiavellian they are the ones lacking judgment. Calculating the anticipated political appearance of romantic partners betrays a careerism that is entirely disqualifying.
If you’re ticked off by mentioning Marjorie Taylor Greene, in my defense I was trying to find something good to say about her.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 23:00 utc | 85

Vargas – Vucic just attended a Zelenskyy fan boy conference in Dubronik of all places, arranged by NATO and the EU……you can now openly talk of betrayal……..
– He made two crucial errors in judgement which will more than likely cost him PM’s post (we can only hope).
– One he actually signed the conference proclamation requested by Zelenskyy harshly critical of RF (although his excuse is he amended it to be less critical…….a point that is highly questionable). In 1999 it was only the RF that attempted aid Serbian troops under fire in Kosovo, when they made their KFOR dash for Pristina airfield and captured it before UK forces arrived (VV Putin inspired the entire opeation by the way). Has Vucic forgotten that already? So in gratitude he stabs the RF in the back multiple times.
– He just attended the conference in the occupied city of Dubronik, a majority Serb city that was ethnically cleansed of Serbs by fascist Croatian troops. Has Vucic forgotten the slaughter of Serb civilians and the summary execution of Serb soldiers during the NATO inspired and financed Operation Storm in 1995?
Just this year the US and NATO and the EU attempted the staging of a color revolution in Belgrade (the Serb government was alerted to this planned event by RF GRU intell). Luckily the fake revolution was put down. Did Vucic forget that too….WTF.
Vucic needs immediate replacement, he has become the fan boy of NATO and the EU….its just unreal….get him out now!! Russia has always flown cover for Serbia, time to return the favor.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 23:28 utc | 86

I thought this was the trailer to Brokeback Mountain II. Cringiest political ad ever indeed, I know gay guys that would find this cringe-worthy. In Hollywood and Madison Ave. the current catch word is “go woke, go broke” or in this case “go woke, lose to Trump”:
Pro-Kamala Harris spot targeting ‘real men’ ripped as ‘cringiest political ad ever’
Hat tip to Pepe Escobar for linking this on his TG, I don’t check in on Kunstler’s site often enough, spot on as always:
https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/kamala-unwinding

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:32 utc | 87

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7
Explain to me in what way Ursula Von der Leyen is ‘left wing’. And that doesn’t mean some half-assed MAGA conflation of wokism with the left or ‘cultural marxism’ (a non-existent joke thing if ever there was).

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 23:40 utc | 88

vargas @ 86
In the antebellum USA south Vucic would be a house slave, to use the polite term, he knows the score and is aware of the injustice but he doesn’t want to trade place with the sad bastards picking cotton in the hot sun. All smiles and platitudes to the masters, all smile and platitudes to his fellow slaves. Can hardly blame him, must suck to be a pol that can’t win and has no way out, to his credit he didn’t just go full Zelensky.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:45 utc | 89

@ Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 23:40 utc | 102
yeah, that didn’t make sense to me either… but i think it might be her embracing lgbtq+ .. it certainly isn’t her war 24/7 ideology.
did you read the thomas fazi article b linked to twice, the past 2 weeks in the moa in review?? here it is again… it implies she is much more far right then anything else..
The EU as an existential threat to Europe
How von der Leyen’s über-hawkish European Commission hijacked the bloc’s military and security policy — and why this represents an existential threat to the continent

Posted by: james | Oct 12 2024 0:10 utc | 90

Posted by: james | Oct 12 2024 0:10 utc | 105
Thanks James: her wiki page alone points to deep connections to the US state dept and profound liberal capitalist conservatism. She is, put simply, the key Atlanticist. The Austrian corporal was more left wing than she is!

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 12 2024 0:26 utc | 91

If you Listen to Orban’s whole speech it only 27 mins long.
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXAn6bwkW8o&pp=ygUkT3JiYW4gZnVsbCBIdW5nYXJ5IHByZXNpZGVuY3kgc3BlZWNo
I don’t even think he is a nationalist he is a globalist. That’s what the right wing populists do they say one thing and do another. This meme going around that there is no left and right anymore but only nationalism v globalism is a fraud.
Left wing v right wing is as alive as it has ever been. Listen to the speech and make your own minds up. The part about his plans for Serbia and the Baltic states is 20 mins in under defence and security Europe. It is all pure globalism. Serbia is key to his plans.
There is absolutely nothing that isn’t globalism and all he proposes is to take sovereignty away from countries during the whole speech.
This right wing populist meme and what they are supposed to stand for is a sham. The whole speech exposes it.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 12 2024 0:31 utc | 92

@ LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:32 utc | 100
Not one of Kunstler’s best because he gets the cackling imbecile all wrong. Of COURSE she wants to be president — didn’t she run for president four years ago (and supposedly against the advice of Willie Brown)?
Of course nobody wanted her then, which underscores even more her delusional degree of ambition.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 0:31 utc | 93

Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18
Thank you for posting MSM tv, YouTube entertainment for morons. I bet you watch the Eurovision.
Any videos of kittens, puppies, celebrities?

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 0:35 utc | 94

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:00 utc | 26
So Netanyahu is irrational because he mis-interprets – according to your literal translation and exegesis – a supernatural revelation?
You seem pretty adamant in convincing MOA in the wisdom of God. When did God help anyone? Two-and-a-half thousand years and the same questions persist, yet no consensus of explanation. Enough of your fuckin’ Christian bullshit apologetics; it’s an insult to the intelligence and rationalism.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 0:57 utc | 95

When did God help anyone?
Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 0:57 utc | 110
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Hey now! God demanded the extermination of the native populations of Canaan. That’s at least moral support, isn’t it? And such fine moral guidance for Bibi and his gang.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 1:07 utc | 96

Patroklos @102: “Explain to me in what way Ursula Von der Leyen is ‘left wing’.”
I am curious about that too. Is she just IdPol on steroids or does she stand for any real left principles? Does anyone have clarification for me?
And while you are at it, how exactly is Orban “far right”? Is it mega microaggressions against people with mental disorders that I’m too insensitive to perceive, or does he actually send the death squads out against union organizers?
I am just trying to triangulate on what the whole left-right spectrum is supposed to represent these days.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 12 2024 1:08 utc | 97

@ William Gruff | Oct 12 2024 1:08 utc | 112
It does seem strange to describe a major CDU flunky as “left-wing.” Of course, the real left wing in Europe has largely vanished — although there are still vestiges of it there, unlike, say, in the USA.
Orbán and his party have been accused of authoritarian tendencies — a matter I can’t judge from deep reading or experience — but since he and his party still seem to adhere to “democratic” norms, “far right” would seem to be meaningful only within the spectrum of parties adhering to such norms. If one includes outright fascists, monarchists, and Nazis, of course, he ceases to be “far-right”.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 1:22 utc | 98

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45
I read that in RT. That’s a good FU to France. France and Germany seem united in their self-destruction.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 1:22 utc | 99

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 11 2024 21:16 utc | 75
Which sector of the working class thinks about Marxism? I know of none. But assuming such, why would the working class be concerned – as you imply – with the detriment to the entrepeneur?

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 1:54 utc | 100