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October 11, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-241
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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In honor & remembrance of long past practice of b & DeAnanders semi-regular submissions & a semi-formal practice of Art submissions/Music/Poetry/etc in OT, to briefly take us beyond the often overwhelming core content of the major threads … especially given current situ/ongoing events … @Outraged | Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 11 2024 14:05 utc | 2 Who runs Bartertown? I know that none of this is funny, but check out “Hymietown”, Eddie Murphy SNL. After Jesse Jackson called New York City Hymietown in 1984. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Oct 11 2024 14:09 utc | 3 Thank you, Outraged. Here is my contribution. I saw him play once, in Washington, DC, my freshman year in college. Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 14:42 utc | 4 I did some digging with respect to Kamala Harris, and it wasn’t just her first two jobs that her boyfriend Slick Willie gave to her whilst they were dating. Afterwards, in 1998 when he was Mayor of San Francisco she was hired as an Assistant DA in San Francisco. Hired by the elected SF DA who was a Democrat, over whom Willie Brown had a significant amount of political sway. Then in 2002 she was hired by the SF City Attorney who reported directly to Mayor Willie Brown. Then in 2003 getting elected as SF DA, while Brown was still Mayor and still incredibly influential within the Democratic Party. @Posted by: Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5 Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7 Roger@1501 Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 8 Personally I found Harris’ career as a prosecutor to be a permanent disqualifier, though that should be a recommendation for the “lock’em up crowd,” which is all MAGA and most Democrats. Who she slept with is not a disqualifier. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to enjoy sleeping around too but that just makes her close friends, no? Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 9 Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10 Personally I found Harris’ career as a prosecutor to be a permanent disqualifier Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:53 utc | 11 @ Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7 Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 15:55 utc | 12 @ juliania | Oct 11 2024 14:42 utc | 4 @ Roger | Oct 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5 Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 16:11 utc | 14 OT Posted by: jonku | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 15 @ Ludovic | Oct 11 2024 14:00 utc | 5 Posted by: Cabe | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 16 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc | 1 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 11 2024 16:36 utc | 17 @ Outraged | Oct 11 2024 16:00 utc | 13
Possibly Juliania was responding to your earlier link to Ella F. and Louis A. Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18 Sorry, Outraged at Oct 11 2024 16:00 utc | 13. I enjoyed your musical offering at Oct 11 2024 13:53 utc | 1 this morning very much. Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 16:46 utc | 19 Here, with apologies to all, is my ‘offering’ intended above: Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 16:51 utc | 20 @ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18 Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 17:41 utc | 21 @ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18 At the risk of repeating myself ad nauseum…. we are in the midst of a Global Jewish civil war, whether it be tail or head, it’s all hound from hell. Similar to the left wing or right wing, they both belong to the same bird of prey. Ashkenazi vs Mizrahi…. they both believe that they alone are special and chosen. It ultimately will result in Humanity vs Judaism.
Posted by: majoab | Oct 11 2024 17:52 utc | 23 @Outraged, #1; @waynorinnorway, #18: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 17:54 utc | 24 If we’re going to get all folky, folks, you can’t beat this with a stick: Posted by: malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25 To continue my apology – I haven’t returned here in a bit, since I began to study the passage in the OT on which Netanyahu has based his rampage in Gaza and Lebanon. The verses he uses from the first Book of Samuel are only a partial rendering of what is meaningfully happening, as, earlier in the text, the people of Israel have decided for themselves that they want to be ‘like other nations’ and have a king over them. Which, in spite of Samuel’s strong warning against this decision, they wilfully insist upon doing. (The passage in question is 1 Samuel 8: 7-20.) My understanding of the later passage Netanyahu relies on is that it is a lesson about what not to do, what results because the kingship of God has been wrongfully delegated to Saul. Saul does wrong, yes, but not because he is not acting as God would act, but because kingship has just been taken from God and given to man. The lesson is that decisions over who is to live and who is to die are not man’s decisions (because he can make the wrong ones), even if kingship itself is left to be decided by the people. You want to be kings? Here is what happens then. It’s on you. Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:00 utc | 26 Viktor Orban destroys Ursula von der Leyen Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:03 utc | 27 Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 15:45 utc | 10 The main question that has been racking my brain is:
I can’t understand why the lot of them would destroy their own countries and societies. The childish behaviour is beyond belief. Posted by: JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29 @ malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25 Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 18:11 utc | 30 @JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 18:14 utc | 31 This is Orban’s thinking. This is how he views the world. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:20 utc | 32 Just listen to his whole speech at the EU. Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 18:25 utc | 33 “Orban was all in. Don’t kid yourself otherwise” Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18 Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:35 utc | 35 Mozambicans go to the polls soon to elect an new president – Mozambique has huge gas reserves in the North of the country – and the people of the country like all African countries – want these resources to go to helping the people of the country – which they should, however Western proxy fighter groups, such as ISIS – are on the rampage in the North of the country – to try and keep the region in a state of chaos, and ultimately, to allow foreign energy firms to exploit what isn’t theirs. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:43 utc | 37 India is to build two-nuclear submarines – and it will buy 31 weaponised MQ-9B Predator drones, from the US for $4 billion dollars – all this is with one eye on China, to try and counter it in the region if needs be. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:48 utc | 38 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 18:03 utc | 27 Posted by: Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:02 utc | 39 @ malenkov | Oct 11 2024 17:55 utc | 25 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 18:48 utc | 38 Posted by: Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 41 That’s irrelevant; what is relevant is that Orban finally came to his senses why not the rest of the EU ‘puppypack’ Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42 JulianJ@29….So you think NATO gave all its kit, it’s best most precious pieces of equipment to Ukraine….if that were the case Russia would be at the Polish border already, they are not. Hmm, ponder that. They still control less than 20% of 404. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 11 2024 19:08 utc | 43 @ Mario | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 41 Algeria flexes its muscles – against its former colonialist oppressor. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45 Can there be socialism without finacializaton? Posted by: LunarDegree33 | Oct 11 2024 19:15 utc | 46 With Gaza and Lebanon in mind – I’d say those Western proxy states fear reprisals from Iran – if the Zionists strike the Iranian energy sector. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:18 utc | 47 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 40 Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 19:20 utc | 48 @ Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42 Posted by: Outraged | Oct 11 2024 19:03 utc | 40 @Outraged, #44: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:31 utc | 52 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 11 2024 16:36 utc | 17 Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:35 utc | 53 @Sun of Alabama, #42: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:41 utc | 54 @ Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:35 utc | 53 Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 19:45 utc | 55 To JulianJ and Norwegian. I have been asking myself the same question. There seems to be some higher level of lunacy going on. I apologize for not giving links, but I will give sources. Recently, after announcing that the First Amendment gets in the way of “governing,” Kerry made the insane announcement at a WEF meeting, according to him the behest of Biden, that he had decided that methane is killing the world, and that the only way to stop it is to reduce agriculture by 60% worldwide. Amazingly, thirteen countries have “signed on” for this insanity. Questions: Who exactly signed. Who authorized them to sign. How was this forced and how will it be enforced. Did anyone ask the farmers? Landowners? Citizens? Sources: articles posted in Global Research. Comment: on the face of this, Kerry et al are planning another genocide. Just like in Gaza. Withholding food, water and medical help is genocide. Another word is murder. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56 Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 19:41 utc | 54 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:56 utc | 57 Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 19:45 utc | 55 Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 19:58 utc | 58 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 19:04 utc | 42 Posted by: Passerby | Oct 11 2024 20:11 utc | 59 @Sun, #57: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 11 2024 20:11 utc | 60 Posted by: Luis | Oct 11 2024 20:16 utc | 62 Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 11 2024 20:24 utc | 61 @ waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 19:20 utc | 48 Posted by: Luis | Oct 11 2024 20:16 utc | 62 Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 20:26 utc | 63 @Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 20:29 utc | 64 Frank Newman (former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury) Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 20:33 utc | 65 @ Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 11 2024 19:48 utc | 56
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The consolidation of Capital into a small circle of powerful elites should not be a mystery to anyone. Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 20:47 utc | 66 The alternative to Orban is, unfortunately, full idiocracy. There is not a single person with average intelligence among the opposition. The insanity spouted by them is painful. Posted by: Trebitsch | Oct 11 2024 20:51 utc | 67 Pasquale Grasso – ‘Round Midnight ==> https://youtu.be/o-0VEFfa4SQ Posted by: too scents | Oct 11 2024 20:57 utc | 68 jonku | Oct 11 2024 16:23 utc | 15
Sweetie, babes, if you need to go, go, but you really don’t need to do it in public, mmmkay ? Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:13 utc | 69 @67 SoA Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 11 2024 21:16 utc | 70 steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 15:44 utc | 9 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 11 2024 21:18 utc | 71 With Hungary rotating presidency of the Council of the European Union and after listening to Orban’s speech. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 11 2024 21:29 utc | 72 JulianJ | Oct 11 2024 18:10 utc | 29
Greed, narcissism, stupidity, narcissism, a bit more greed and let’s be honest good ol’ stupdity ! Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:40 utc | 73 Orban is forging an alliance with Vucic and Serbia……..excellent, they share common issues with NATO and the EU over supplies of natural gas and petroleum, and both are sympathetic to RF…in fact VV Putin and DJ Trump are the most popular political figures in Serbia….. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 21:42 utc | 74 Posts 29 and 31, I have observed only one possible explanation to all you cite: the brazen crazies act out of desperation to accelerate ANY required efforts to cover up the jab deathwave ongoing since mid’21, still rising at pace. Ed Dowd’s team has proven evidence to give weight to an ongoing mortality increase af orders of magnatude. Two family members died from days to two weeks after their jabs while I was overseas, so, yes, I watch that roach quietly crawling in the dark. As should we all. Posted by: ERing46Z | Oct 11 2024 21:57 utc | 75 I do not how many people are aware about the terrible ecological problems in Serbia. Together with quisling government, big corporations like Rio Tinto are starting to dig for lithium in Serbia in the areas full of underground water and destined for agriculture. Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:16 utc | 77 Orban and Vucic want to assure energy supplies to their countries………time to leave the EU, and tell NATO to shove it…. Posted by: vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:19 utc | 78 Luis, Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 11 2024 22:23 utc | 79 Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Oct 11 2024 21:40 utc | 79 Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 22:29 utc | 80
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 22:52 utc | 81 Vargas – Vucic is making a huge mistake if he is believing anything coming out of DC…….they only desire a subservient Serbia………..the entire Nuland strategy was to isolate Serbia militarily and economically and deny Serbia a seaport on the Adriatic………….specifically at Split (former Krajina port city). Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 22:53 utc | 82 @ sun of alabama and others… Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 22:55 utc | 83 @ vargas | Oct 11 2024 22:16 utc | 86 Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 22:57 utc | 84 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 11 2024 21:18 utc | 76 “In my mind, who you sleep with speaks of your sense of judgement, so it can be very well be a disqualifier.” For political office? I’m sorry, to my mind someone who checks IDs, or does background checks, or even documents sexual encounters is proving themselves to be so Machiavellian they are the ones lacking judgment. Calculating the anticipated political appearance of romantic partners betrays a careerism that is entirely disqualifying. Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 11 2024 23:00 utc | 85 Vargas – Vucic just attended a Zelenskyy fan boy conference in Dubronik of all places, arranged by NATO and the EU……you can now openly talk of betrayal…….. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 11 2024 23:28 utc | 86 I thought this was the trailer to Brokeback Mountain II. Cringiest political ad ever indeed, I know gay guys that would find this cringe-worthy. In Hollywood and Madison Ave. the current catch word is “go woke, go broke” or in this case “go woke, lose to Trump”: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:32 utc | 87 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 11 2024 15:08 utc | 7 Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 23:40 utc | 88 vargas @ 86 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:45 utc | 89 @ Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 23:40 utc | 102 Posted by: james | Oct 12 2024 0:10 utc | 90 Posted by: james | Oct 12 2024 0:10 utc | 105 Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 12 2024 0:26 utc | 91 If you Listen to Orban’s whole speech it only 27 mins long. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 12 2024 0:31 utc | 92 @ LightYearsFromHome | Oct 11 2024 23:32 utc | 100 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 0:31 utc | 93 Posted by: waynorinorway | Oct 11 2024 16:40 utc | 18 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 0:35 utc | 94 Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 18:00 utc | 26 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 0:57 utc | 95 When did God help anyone? Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 1:07 utc | 96 Patroklos @102: “Explain to me in what way Ursula Von der Leyen is ‘left wing’.” Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 12 2024 1:08 utc | 97 @ William Gruff | Oct 12 2024 1:08 utc | 112 Posted by: malenkov | Oct 12 2024 1:22 utc | 98 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 11 2024 19:14 utc | 45 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 1:22 utc | 99 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 11 2024 21:16 utc | 75 Posted by: horseguards | Oct 12 2024 1:54 utc | 100 |
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