Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 1, 2024
Israel – Invading Lebanon To Prolong And Expand Its Supremacists War

Is it a trap?

That is the question the Zionists should ask themselves. To me the answer seems to be 'Yes!'

The Zionist entity is invading Lebanon – again. All earlier such invasions have ended in failure. Zionist troops had to retreat under fire. The current invasion is unlikely to see a better fate.

The Izzies, and their U.S. sponsors, are delirious over their perceived success in killing a number of Hizbullah officials including its leader, Sayed Hassan Nasrallah.

Don't they understand that Hizbullah has explicitly been built in ways that allow it to sustain such losses? All the murdered officials have already been replaced. If these new ones get killed their replacements are ready.

Before last week the war between the resistance was restricted to an (unequal) exchange of missiles. Israel fired many more than the resistance but not to more effect. The nature of that slow walking war of attrition will now change.

An Israeli ground invasion is exactly what Hizbullah has prepared for. It has readied its ambush sites. Its weapons and the people need to launch them are down in their well prepared bunkers.

The invading forces will be subjected to all kind of surprises. The ground troops are expected to proceed only after heavy preparatory bombing. But the mountainous grounds will allow the defenders to survive the bombing and to attack when and where they are least suspected. I do expect heavy military casualties but mostly on the attacker's  side.

This war will likely go on for several months. It could easily extend into a years long and much larger conflict.

The Biden administrations is in full support of the invasion. It may even have urged Netanyahoo to proceed with it:

Senior White House figures privately told Israel that the U.S. would support its decision to ramp up military pressure against Hezbollah — even as the Biden administration publicly urged the Israeli government in recent weeks to curtail its strikes, according to American and Israeli officials.

Presidential adviser Amos Hochstein and Brett McGurk, the White House coordinator for the Middle East, told top Israeli officials in recent weeks that the U.S. agreed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s broad strategy to shift Israel’s military focus to the north against Hezbollah in order to convince the group to engage in diplomatic talks to end the conflict, the officials told POLITICO.

The Pentagon though is not convinced that this operation will be a success. It fears that, at some point, the U.S. forces will be sent in to rescue the Izzies from a severe defeat.

The Netanyahoo government will try its best to expand the war into Syria or, even further, into an all out war on Iran. It will need the full military support from the U.S. to do so. Its political maneuvering towards the U.S. will thus be done with the intent to further drag it into the war.

Without the full support of the U.S. Israel will fail to become the regional superpower it is striving to be.

With full U.S. support their might be a chance, a small one though, for Israel to win this round.

When the European crusaders tried to colonialize the Levant they built some 37 large castles to hold to their gains. Some 150 years later the crusaders had left. The castles though still exist. They are a reminder that those lands are not easy to take and – moreover – to keep.

Comments

I find it curious that Reuters has the following headline posting title
Israel military says Iran missile attack over, citizens can leave shelters
You would think they would not say such if they hadn’t been told it was so……
Assessment and then?
Civilization war is our process that remakes the form of social organization sausage based on changes to human understanding of our potential as a species…do we continue to live according to patriarchal barbaristic Might-Makes-Right rules or can we agree to manage our differences in a positive way and share the bounty of our spaceship Earth?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 1 2024 18:50 utc | 301

Iranian media claim that Iran’s missile attack destroyed more than 20 Israeli F-35s
Posted by: Siddhartha | Oct 1 2024 18:40 utc | 288
I sincerely hope that’s true.

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 1 2024 18:50 utc | 302

Maximum coping engaged.

According to Hebrew Media, “Israel” has successfully intercepted all recent missile attacks with an innovative new system they’re calling “Iron Ground”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 18:51 utc | 303

From live feed:
ISRAEL HAYOM: Ben Gvir orders the immediate deployment of 13,000 volunteers in emergency rooms.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 1 2024 18:51 utc | 304

Intel Slava Z
🇮🇱🇮🇷⚡️IDF announces it will respond to Iranian missile attack tonight, and the result will be “seen by the entire Middle East”
10.5Kviews
14:41
Nuke?

Posted by: Mary | Oct 1 2024 18:52 utc | 305

https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1841182299792294075
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Where was all that great Israeli “intelligence” we’ve been hearing about? Where was the “sophisticated” missile defense?
If the genocidal Zionist regime strikes back, Iran will pound the regime into submission.
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/32668
🚀🏴‍☠️ Lebanese Journalist Khalil Nasrallah:
It is understood from the statement of the head of the National Security and Foreign Policy Committee in the Iranian parliament that the Iranians have left the account open. He said, “The Revolutionary Guard fulfilled its promises, and this is the first wave.”
By saying, “If the entity makes a miscalculation in its response, our reply will be stronger and more destructive,” it means that Tehran has prepared for a second wave if the Israelis carry out any attack in response to the current one.
@ResistanceTrench

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 18:53 utc | 306

Posted by: Mary | Oct 1 2024 18:52 utc | 307
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The nuke threat is a scare tactic IMO. Use of a nuke would be the end of Israel forever.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 18:53 utc | 307

The zionists will, of course, claim all of their high value assets were evacuated from Nevatim Air Base before it got pasted, but what percentage of the F-35s would be ready to scramble, do you think?
The zionists have been using their F-35s lately, and they take days of rehab between flights to be ready to go again. I’ll bet most were likely caught on the ground. The Iranian claim of 20 F-35s destroyed might not be an exaggeration.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 1 2024 18:55 utc | 308

IRGC: The operation was carried out after a period of restraint in the face of the violation of Iran’s sovereignty with the killing of Martyr Haniyeh and in accordance with its right to self-defense, as well as the escalation of Israeli crimes with American support in killing Palestinian and Lebanese people and the martyrdom of Sayyed Nasrallah and Brigadier General Nilforoushan.

International law (self-defense) as expected.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 18:55 utc | 309

USA saying now they were in lockstep with Israel and no Israeli killed….
So claiming on such a “assessment”to de-escalate an or possible IDF response????? That Iran attack ineffective and defeated???.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 1 2024 18:56 utc | 310

Honzo | Oct 1 2024 18:48 utc | 300–
Fanatics usually become their own worst enemy and the best ally of their opponent. As I wrote elsewhere, it’s all or nothing for the Zionists just as it is for the rest of the mobsters.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 1 2024 18:57 utc | 311

I notice that Iran did choose an appropriate time for its retaliation.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 1 2024 18:57 utc | 312

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 1 2024 17:30 utc | 205
Posted by: Arata | Oct 1 2024 18:34 utc | 277
Between 180 and 200 are the numbers I’ve seen. The claim is that about 1/2 were shot down.
Given that Iran can do this about 5 more times it is likely that Israel prioritized what they fired at to preserve interceptor stocks for the next round.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 1 2024 18:58 utc | 313

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 1 2024 18:55 utc | 310
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I claim zero knowledge about air power but recent articles written by Marat Khairullin have wised me up to the fact that air power is measured in how many sorties per day, per week, etc an airforce can conduct.
Wrecking runways and airports will hinder Israel’s ability to project air power because they won’t be able to comfortably launch, land, and service to “keep their birds in the air”.
Similar to how a spoiled deck on an aircraft carrier neuters its force projection capability.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 314

Iranian media claim that Iran’s missile attack destroyed more than 20 Israeli F-35s
Posted by: Siddhartha | Oct 1 2024 18:40 utc | 288
The loss of those airplanes will reduce the level of air support Israel can give its invasion force on the Lebanon border. Thus, the invasion may turn out to be short lived. If the Radwan brigade can catch the jews in the precarious situation of not knowing whether to launch their attack or retreat the invasion force may be in big trouble tomorrow.

Posted by: Chas | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 315

Posted by: Mary | Oct 1 2024 18:52 utc | 307
This isn’t over. Netanyahu has to escalate, it’s in his blood.
Let’s hope we all wake up tomorrow morning. And not to the sound of nukes.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 316

Iranian media claim that Iran’s missile attack destroyed more than 20 Israeli F-35s
Cite?

Posted by: JackG | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 317

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 1 2024 18:32 utc | 271 “However, with only 12 minutes flying time the response cannot have enough time to allow reloading of Iron Dome launchers.”
Iron Dome has nothing to do with defending from this attack.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 1 2024 19:00 utc | 318

RE: Posted by: Honzo | Oct 1 2024 18:48 utc | 300
Agree, but Nutty isn’t the problem. Colonialism is the problem, manifested in varying ways, in Israel it’s Zionism.
That’s going to take a few years to defeat. And like Nazism, you’ll have your little cultist somewhere in the background.
The next step will be a forced 2 State solution. Forced.
That will mean more border tit for tats, but will also mean, less Zionism Jews coming, and many more going back to Europe/US. Eventually, one state.
The U.S. hopes to control both States, but I’m pretty certain they’ll go bankrupt before its fruition.
In any case, this war is not “ending” anytime soon, although there may be an agreed break-in-the-battle scenario.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 1 2024 19:01 utc | 319

My guess is Iran has a nuclear backstop. I’ve said it before, the 30ys of demonizing Iran was to prepare the Golden Billion just in case Iran had to be nuked, “it’s so awful, but they had it coming”. Iran spent the last 30ys building a reliable, accurate, robust, vast conventional missile system, clever because they built the missiles before the nukes, the opposite of N.Korea, if they had done it like N.Korea they probably wouldn’t be here now.
Problem is if they use that conventional force en masses, over and over for weeks, in a way that really hurts Israel, physically or its pride, puts its warmongering gangster leadership in a bind, then they’ll get nuked. And, worryingly not so far out of accordance with the atrocity exhibition the Empire is calculatedly unleashing, one horror at a time. So it gets out of hand, when have the neocons ever troubled themselves over that?
Ergo Iran’s conventional missile system is either just bluster, and a waste of time, it can’t do any real harm to Israel that Israel can’t repair or rebuild from, it’s a pop gun suicide machine, or, only way to make the conventional missile system viable is if Iran has a nuclear backstop, which is why, Allah wishes aside, I think they have nuclear warheads.
If not, they will likely get nuked, best do it at the start of WW3 than the end, that way after all the horror that comes no one will even remember the horror at the beginning. A retired Israeli general or Mossad guy said that, not me, stated it like he was revealing something not speculating.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 1 2024 19:01 utc | 320

israel has been bombed, the USA has been warned
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10476
Middle East Spectator
— ❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱/🇺🇳 Iran’s Permanent Mission to the United Nations:
‘Should the Zionist regime dare to respond or commit further acts of malevolence, a subsequent and crushing response will ensue. Regional states and the Zionists’ supporters are advised to part ways with the regime.’
@Middle_East_Spectator
english (dot) almayadeen (dot) net/news/politics/iranian-response-has-begun–sirens-sounded-all-over–israel
….The Iraqi Resistance’s coordination committee released a statement after Iran’s response, warning US forces that if they were to intervene in a strike on Iran, or if “Israel” were to use Iraqi airspace to execute any strikes against Iran, then all US bases and interests in Iraq and the region would become legitimate targets…..
…Earlier reports said the targets of the Iranian attacks would include military airbases as well as intelligence headquarters in northern Tel Aviv.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:01 utc | 321

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 316
Losing air bases in Israel severely hampers any air support that can be provided over Lebanon.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 1 2024 19:02 utc | 322

**VIDEO** 🇮🇱🇮🇷🇱🇧 Beirut celebrates the Iranian attack

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:03 utc | 323

National Security Advisor
Sullivan:
Iran’s attack on Israel appears ineffective.


**VIDEO** 🇮🇷 Party in Tehran. Glory to the Resistance.
—-

It has been reported that Israeli Defense Minister Galant has not been reachable for 1 hour.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:06 utc | 324

The second reason for an full blown war (against Iran) is the attempt to destroy BRICS common money system, what is THE real threat to US Dallar hegemoney. They MUST hinder that development at all costs.. . .
Posted by: ableman | Oct 1 2024 15:28 utc | 117
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Back in January 2003, Immanuel Wallerstein posited that the “real” reason for the US intent to sideline Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with WMD but was driven by Saddam’s plan (partially carried out) to open an oil exchange in Iraq denominated in euros, not dollars.
I think I read that one of the invaders’ first actions was to shut down this exchange. I may have used wrong jargon, but a Google search gives this:
“What precipitated US president George Bush’s single-minded drive to conquer Baghdad is not so much a sudden realisation that Saddam is a nasty guy who has gassed his people, but it was Iraq’s November 6 2000 switch to the euro as the currency for its oil transactions.”

Posted by: Jane | Oct 1 2024 19:07 utc | 325

Some videos and information all from @DD Geopolitics (you don’t need Telegram to watch the clips) and sorry if already posted, I didn’t check all the links:
multiple incoming missiles: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124802?single
multiple incoming missiles (filmed from farther distance): https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124831
single incoming missile: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124817?single
another single incoming missile: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124818?single
DD Geopolitics: “Iranian TV: The Revolutionary Guards targeted the Nevatim Air Base, the Hatzerim Base, and the Tel Nof Base in the occupied territories.”
I personally don’t know if that was a wise choice from Iran. But one thing for me is clear, that every poster on MOA who said that Iran hasn’t the possibilities or is too weak looks a bit stupid now.

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:07 utc | 326

RE: “We have ***targeted**the heart of the occupied territories in response to the assassination of martyrs Haniyeh, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, and Nilforooshian.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 18:47 utc | 297
Okay fine Iran… glad you targeted, how about a detailed report of what you “hit”… that would be more useful information atm.
In any case, at least they got rid of millions of $$ of AD missiles, so, yea! That’s helpful.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 1 2024 19:07 utc | 327

The question is will it be the oil fields, nuclear facilities or both. Stay tuned.
Oh and so far Iran managed to kill a gazan and a jordanian.

Posted by: crimson | Oct 1 2024 19:09 utc | 328

LoveDonbas (284).
I’m pretty sure Mossad’s HQ in a residential area of Tel Aviv – was struck by a Qadar 1 missile on Sept 25th.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/09/25/733930/Lebanon-resistance-movement-Hezbollah-Israeli-spy-agency-Mossad-pager-explosions-#:~:text=Hezbollah%20announced%20in%20a%20statement%20on%20Wednesday%20that%20it%20has

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 1 2024 19:09 utc | 329

Posted by: JackG | Oct 1 2024 18:59 utc | 319
Go Telegram. Or you’re waiting for Israel to tell you.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/109887?single

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:09 utc | 330

@ 300 honzo
good post. thanks.. i agree with trubind1 general viewpoint, but i am sure you do too..
@ 314 bemildred..
yes indeed! i would call that good timing..

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 19:09 utc | 331

From the Ayatollah

בעזרת השם, מכות חזית ההתקוממות יהפכו חזקות וכואבות יותר על הגוף השחוק והנרקב של המשטר הציוני.
Translation from Hebrew:
With God’s help, the blows of the uprising front will become stronger and more painful on the worn and rotting body of the Zionist regime.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:10 utc | 332

Re: 20 F35s destroyed on the ground ?
Unlikely since all IDF “should” be stored in Hardened Hangers.
Any barfly know if IDF airbases have harden hangers ?

Posted by: Exile | Oct 1 2024 19:11 utc | 333

Watching some ‘interesting’ reporting from Al Jazeera.
They seem keen to be pushing the line that Israel has intercepted a large number of missiles. Say what? They keep showing the same video where at best 50% were hit, but still fall and blow up, while the rest blow up massive craters in the ground unchallenged. Meanwhile Twitter and Telegram have dozens of videos proving there are dozens if not hundreds of missiles hitting the target, and f#ck all interceptions.
Jake Sullivan just said ‘zero deaths’ and also promoted the same bs of magical phantom Iron Dome interceptions. My eyes do not lie bro, whatevs.
One wonders, is it a deliberate narrative to try and deescalate, as well as Qatar’s propaganda channel’s own butt hurted concern shining through, since they use the same useless Western Air Defense systems at home?

Posted by: Rubiconned | Oct 1 2024 19:11 utc | 334

this is the best video I’ve seen of the Iranian missiles make their hits, multiple impacts:
https://x.com/PressTV/status/1841162562236285181
Press TV 🔻 @PressTV
Footage shows a barrage of Iranian missiles hitting occupied Israeli territories.
english (dot) almayadeen (dot) net/shortnews
Iranian state media: The Islamic Revolution Guard Corps used hypersonic Fattah missiles in the attack on ‘Israel’.
Iraqi resistance coordination committee warns against the Israeli occupation using Iraqi airspace to bomb Iranian territories.
IRGC: We have targeted heart of occupied territories in response to assassination of martyrs Haniyeh, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, and Nilforooshian.
Israeli media platform: Preliminary reports suggest first rocket landed in Tel Aviv, building struck in northern Tel Aviv.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:11 utc | 335

Not seeing much of the claimed interceptions on the various video clips circulating. Smoothie has just posted a couple of clips and, in the 2nd one particularly, the “arrivals” seem to be exploding at ground level.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 1 2024 19:12 utc | 336

Hope you guys got your nuclear bunkers well stock as Israel is going to end the Phantom Menace once and for all.

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:12 utc | 337

Remember that the goal of the lying, fraudulent, sack of shit zombie in the WH is to just make it until the election without a full scale WW3 breaking out.
So they’re going to lie, lie, lie to keep “muckets” from collapsing.
(They do not give a shit if they collapse on Nov. 6)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 1 2024 19:12 utc | 338

@ 327 jane
that was said at the time in 2003.. old news, but i think it is true too.. same deal with gaddafi in libya who threatened to do the same..

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 19:13 utc | 339

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 1 2024 19:01 utc | 322 “My guess is Iran has a nuclear backstop.”
I don’t follow what you mean. We are more sure that Israel has a nuclear backstop. And we Russia has a nuclear backstop.
Nuclear backstops don’t amount anything — until they do. But I assume the amount of damage would need to be pretty high for the nuclear backstop to be used. At least at this point. Once more countries have it the more likely things would get there sooner.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 1 2024 19:13 utc | 340

The question is will it be the oil fields, nuclear facilities or both. Stay tuned.
Oh and so far Iran managed to kill a gazan and a jordanian.
Posted by: crimson | Oct 1 2024 19:09 utc | 330


In Israel it is natural gas. If an offshore platform is burning, it will be Leviathan. And that is catastrophic damage. Huge producer and very important to the Israel economy. That’s serious escalation by Iran if true, and likely Blinken/Zients will order their American servants to retaliate.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 1 2024 19:14 utc | 341

Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon- all being genocided. And Lebanon, irrespective of IS/UK/US perspectives, is a sovreign country. Yesterday Israeli F 16’s and F35s attacked Damascus while attention was being paid to possible ground incursion into Lebanon. This is only one of many Israeli violations of the sovreignty of Syria, not the least of which was the bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus which killed several highly placed Iranian diplomats and military. If one presumes that Russia is following the escalation carefully (e.g. that meeting in the Kremlin yesterday), titrating the full measure of Netanyahu’s disinhibition, Iran’s missle attack may have been greenlighted in some way by Russia to prevent open Israeli/Russian conflict over Russian assets in Laktakia. Only a part of the equation in Iran’s decision, which had to be multifactorial. Actions from the Axis of Resistance are considered and probably coordinated. UNSC powers have essentially been gutted by US in their cover for Israel – with the usual unforseen consequences.

Posted by: abierno | Oct 1 2024 19:15 utc | 342

Yes they cope hard.
I don’t know if this specific cope is real. Found it on DD Geopolitics (you don’t need Telegram to open it): https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124827
DD Geopolitics makes already a bit of fun of that coping (maybe too soon for that?):
video of a (clearly) incoming missile and explosion filmed from inside a car:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124834

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 343

From the Yemeni President Al-Mashat

♦️ Urgent | President Al-Mashat blesses the response of the Islamic Republic of Iran with dozens of ballistic missiles that destroyed important Zionist military and security targets in the heart of the occupied territories
President Al-Mashat: This operation is legitimate for self-defense and to discipline the criminal entity
We stand with the Islamic Republic in its response to the Israeli enemy, and we affirm that it has the full right to defend itself.
We warn the Americans against playing with fire, as the crimes of the Israeli enemy must not pass without response and punishment.
We are ready to deter the American if he decides to commit any foolishness.
We will not let the Americans and Israelis isolate any of our nation’s sons.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 344

That’s a close one. Bet the driver shitted in his pants.
https://t.me/SEPAHCYBERY/100548

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 345

crimson is a hasbara shit artist, just so you know..

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 346

Unfortunately, Israel is now targeting what they can hit easiest: Gaza.
The Gaza Strip is being hit hard. Schools, tents, the last standing homes, and a group of Palestinians who were walking in a “threatening manner” near the Nezarim corridor (Israel built this road to cut Gaza into two, dividing the north from the south.)
Any cars that move are being bombed.
Somewhere near a million Palestinians stuck in one small section in south Gaza. No escape.
It is not a group of giant bombings, but one at a time, Israel is hitting everything still alive in the Strip and re-bombing apartments and houses that have already been turned into rubble. It looks like Israel is punishing the Palestinians because they can’t get back at Iran right this moment.

Posted by: teri | Oct 1 2024 19:17 utc | 347

The Ummah is stirring.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:19 utc | 348

Hope you guys got your nuclear bunkers well stock as Israel is going to end the Phantom Menace once and for all.
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:12 utc | 339
I personally think that Iran did this not without some discussions with the Russians and/or Chinese. So Israel must be very careful if they really want to use nukes… you know Russia has them too.

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:20 utc | 349

Max B. is correct
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1841183125482959231
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Iran targets key Israeli genocide base, the moral equivalent of striking the railways to Auschwitz
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1841167359802781717
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️🚨 Missile rain on the Nevatim Airbase

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:21 utc | 350

I was attempting to understand the data of the type of bunkerbuster that was used to attack Nasrallah
There was one article about it
https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/army-news-2024/analysis-which-bunker-buster-bomb-did-israel-use-to-eliminate-hezbollah-leader-nasrallah-in-beirut
“The operation employed F-15I Ra’am fighter jets that took off from Hatzerim Airbase, each carrying six GBU-31(V)3/B bunker-buster bombs. Approximately 80 tons of explosives were used, including 85 of these bombs designed to penetrate reinforced structures. The targeted bunker, located about 18 meters underground, was heavily fortified, and the operation followed months of planning based on intelligence confirming Nasrallah’s location.”
Further details in the article makes it possible to calculate the total tonnage of explosives in those 85 bombs. Total 20.4 tons Tritonal (80% TNT 20% Al powder:That mixtuer is 2.15 times more powerful than TNT)
But the article I just quoted states 80 ton explosives.
And there was no explanation of the difference of 60tons.
I mailed a question to them so lets see if they can clarify this
The video I saw showed a single missile in steep descent.
Immediately after it hit a large cloud of smoke rose.
According to the article the speed is between
MACH 0.6 and 1.2
From that one may deduce the kinetic energy of the 85 warheads each weighing 874kg
But I find it to be equivalent to less than 1 ton of such explosives. Thus kinetic energy could not explain the missing 60 tons
The video also showed other forms of bombardments hitting other spots. But this article gives the impression of handling the case of that hardened bunker 18m under ground
They say 80 tons of explosives INCLUDING the 85 bombs each with 240kg of explosives
But ‘including’ gives me the impression that there were other types also.
Was the missing 60 ton the explosive power of the single missile I saw on the video?
If that was the case it must have been a nuke.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 1 2024 19:22 utc | 351

This is Proof that Iron Dome successfully intercepted 100% of all the Iranian V2 German rockets.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124831

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:23 utc | 352

Israel continually plays the victim card and it is anything but.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 1 2024 18:00 utc | 249
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I wish every rocket/missile/drone what have you were accompanied by sky writing:
“GET THE EFF OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.”

Posted by: Jane | Oct 1 2024 19:23 utc | 353

This is Proof that Iron Dome successfully intercepted 100% of all the Iranian V2 German rockets.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/124831
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:23 utc | 354
Yes, nearly all got interceptet by the ground. What also is striking that the alarm went off AFTER the first missiles hit the ground.

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:29 utc | 354

@michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:01 utc | 323

…Earlier reports said the targets of the Iranian attacks would include military airbases as well as intelligence headquarters in northern Tel Aviv.

It is claimed Nevatim air base is destroyed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 1 2024 19:30 utc | 355

@ 354 surferket
check the response to you on that thread.. you have it backwards…. that’s the only thing that is backward..

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 19:30 utc | 356

RE: Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:21 utc | 352
Thx for info Mike.
If you come across any information of what was “hit” and damage done, I’d appreciate a post.
If Al Manar & Palestine Chronicles can list and show videos of exact locations, exact damage & and exact casualties, then Iran with all its satellites & on the ground spies ought to be able to do better than these “targeted blah blah airbase” garbage they’re pumping out.
From what I can see, Iran relieved internal/external pressure.
Hopefully, Iranian media will release some details, currently the West states that they hit nothing and their are no casualties anywhere… so the usual…
I’m guessing they did hit one or 2 sites, be nice to know, from Iran, exactly what they hit.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 1 2024 19:30 utc | 357

@336 Rubiconned
90+% of messaging from the West is bullshit. Always have to check alternative sources.
Hundreds of Americans including Generals have died in Ukraine but all West does is report their deaths as military accidents or died suddenly at home.

Posted by: Thurl | Oct 1 2024 19:31 utc | 358

Trubind1 @ 294

I don’t think the rest is determined or “fated”, regardless of some machinations of the Superpowers. Just my opinion. It’s too far reaching atm to see where all this chaos “lands” humanity.

I’m actually optimistic in the long run, and well aware of best laid plans, and the fallacy of over baked ambitions of ignorant, pompous, bloviating, supremacist a-holes. Perfect example was the UK financing Mussolini and Hitler into power hoping fascism would destroy communism in Europe and destroy the Russian Federation, and when both were at their most exhausted, over extended Germany was to be easily finished off by the UK, France and USA, one fell swoop, two birds with one stone.
Bold one-dimensional supremacist plan, the outcome of which was their worst nightmare, the USSR, a communist super state that spanned from Western Europe to Central Asia and the Arctic to the Caucuses, and Russia forever as a global superpower.
My worry isn’t the outcome it’s the interim, last time it was 50 million dead, thousands of cities and towns destroyed, millions of lives ruined, my family’s town looked like Ugledar does now at the end in 1945. Like a dumb ass I moved there. What’s the odds lighting strikes twice? This time it’ll be 100s of millions dead. If I had the money I’d be in India or Latin America, places smart enough to stay far away from the crazy shit of the diablos blancos.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 1 2024 19:33 utc | 359

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 1 2024 19:22 utc | 353
A bit of loose wording mixing total bomb weight with that of the explosive filler in all likelyhood.

Posted by: Satepestage | Oct 1 2024 19:33 utc | 360

@ trubind1.
iran doesn’t run a 24/7 propaganda campaign like israel/usa.. don’t expect to find out the details easily, if at all.

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 19:33 utc | 361

On hardened hangers, hypersonics will penetrate them, which is one reason why they are used to attack airbases. As for Iranian BDA, I rather doubt they’ll share any. And again, the aim was to destroy facilities, equipment and ammo, not people, except at Mossad HQ if it was indeed targeted.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 1 2024 19:37 utc | 362

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 345 –
The videos are taken at 14:53 – that is afternoon. One video has blue skies and the other has night skies? There is something not right with those videos – maybe I don’t understand the time feature?

Posted by: Ivan M. | Oct 1 2024 19:39 utc | 363

Regardless of all this “air” nonsense, in the end, the ground forces if the resistance will prevail.
The IOF will be driven permanently to their hidey holes over the next 2-3 months, unless they scream Uncle early and declare their “limited” ground operation a success and go home.
Personally if I were Hezbollah/Syria, I’d just invade Sheeba, Galilee and Golan… then reoccupy and then maybe look agreeable to international community & have a made-up “truce”.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 1 2024 19:40 utc | 364

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:16 utc | 345 –
The videos are taken at 14:53 – that is afternoon. One video has blue skies and the other has night skies? There is something not right with those videos – maybe I don’t understand the time feature?

Posted by: Ivan M. | Oct 1 2024 19:40 utc | 365

Could this be how the Zionists knew where Nasrallah was.
“There is a breaking story from Saudi news channel Al Hadath claiming that an unidentified man, traveling from Iran to Lebanon, met with Nasrallah shortly before the leader’s death for the express purpose of shaking his hand. The handshake was purportedly intended to transfer a trackable substance onto Nasrallah’s palm.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/nasrallah-death-israel-next-move-invasion-lebanon/288374/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 1 2024 19:42 utc | 366

The videos are taken at 14:53 – that is afternoon. One video has blue skies and the other has night skies? There is something not right with those videos – maybe I don’t understand the time feature?
Posted by: Ivan M. | Oct 1 2024 19:39 utc | 365
I wonder where you did see a video with blue sky? And I also didn’t see the timestamp you mentioned.
Maybe you could help me and refer to the exact video you are talking to?

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:44 utc | 367

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Gazaplatform?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Gaza News Platform
‼️ A leading source in Hezbollah to Al Jazeera: 💛
✅ Most of the bases targeted in Israel were directly hit, especially the air bases.
✅ Most of the strike’s objectives were achieved according to the plan.
✅ Nevatim, Hatzarim, Tel Nof, Netzarim and Glilot bases were targeted.
✅ The size of the Israeli missile interception was weak.
✅ Heavy casualties among Israeli soldiers have been confirmed.
Yedioth Ahronoth:
Iran sent a message to the United States that it is not interested in expanding the war.
🔴 🔴 Urgent: Yedioth Ahronoth, citing a security source:
Israel will attack Iran intensively tonight in response to the launches.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 19:46 utc | 368

Does Tehran has nuclear shelters deep enough to survive 86 nukes in one spot?

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:49 utc | 369

New video from IntelslavaZ: https://t.me/intelslava/67560
Clearly missiles hitting the ground, what they hit, who knows… if there are still people who think all missiles got interceptet by Iron Dome, they are either idiots or trolls.

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:50 utc | 370

Does Tehran has nuclear shelters deep enough to survive 86 nukes in one spot?
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:49 utc | 371
I can’t answer you that question. But I believe, that Iran did this not without consulting Russia and/or China. Russia has nukes too. Does Israel have enought nuclear shelters?

Posted by: NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:53 utc | 371

Israeli commentator on UK channel4….the differences between ultranationalists v Netty and his Likud are perhaps disappearing so that they will become one …supportive of each other.
That will give surely more impetus and “theological” basis and reasoning to go all out especially says USA are fully supporting Israel.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 1 2024 19:54 utc | 372

NoName | Oct 1 2024 19:50 utc | 372–
“… they are either idiots or trolls.” Both.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 1 2024 19:54 utc | 373

Does Tehran has nuclear shelters deep enough to survive 86 nukes in one spot?
Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:49 utc | 371
If the child-murderers nuke any muslim city because they have bombed air bases, the settlers’ state will be nuked, and Occupied Palestine is a very small country, Pakistan will be more than glad to offer Iran a nuke for this.
Occupied Palestine is appraching, step by step, to their end with its own behaviour

Posted by: Dave | Oct 1 2024 19:54 utc | 374

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:23 utc | 354
***************
I suppose the video in 354 also support your statement?

Posted by: scc | Oct 1 2024 19:54 utc | 375

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:49 utc | 371
Granted israelians are on the mad side but who would use more than 1 nuke for one spot?

Posted by: Mario | Oct 1 2024 19:55 utc | 376

Post 352, not 354.

Posted by: scc | Oct 1 2024 19:56 utc | 377

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:49 utc | 371
Granted israelians are on the mad side but who would use more than 1 nuke for one spot?

Posted by: Mario | Oct 1 2024 19:56 utc | 378

It is claimed (no confirmations) that Israel lost 20 F35

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 1 2024 19:57 utc | 379

Mad Net jogging to keep fit. Proof Iranian V2 German leftovers were all intercepted.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/139312

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 19:58 utc | 380

15min video of all the hits compiled into one. Stop it with the nonsense nobody’s invincible
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841183543093051731

Posted by: Feck | Oct 1 2024 20:02 utc | 381

Close view of ballistic missiles strike into israel
https://www.itemfix.com/v?t=t352vw
No interceptions I can see

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 1 2024 20:04 utc | 382

I learned a lot from Alastair Crooke on the religious aspects in this discussion with Larry Johnson. He provides a perspective of the conflict that I had very poor understanding of.
https://api.bitchute.com/embed/q3Vrf5c-umY/
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 1 2024 16:22 utc | 141
Thank you, Norwegian! An hour very well spent. That was the very best of Alistair Crooke, and I apologize to him for misunderstanding many of his past messages. Thank you, Larry Johnson for this important interview.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 1 2024 20:06 utc | 383

american politicians are among the biggest scourages of the Earth; and of course I have to add its economic and military leadership as well
https://x.com/anyaparampil/status/1841181072484413670
Anya Parampil @anyaparampil
I’ve seen more US politicians tweeting prayers for Israel over the last hour than I have seen prayers for American people underwater for DAYS. Why do we put up with this occupied government?
Americans: WAKE UP.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 1 2024 20:11 utc | 384

Some months ago, especially during the Iranian and Hezbollah retaliation strikes, we would see many iron dome missiles launched in response to drones and unguided rockets.
That is not happening now so it can be assumed that like Ukraine was, Israel is now very low on interceptor stocks and manufacturing is very low numbers per year.
Patriot was around 5 or 600 per year, the be expanded to 750 or so per year by 2027.
Numbers are likely similar for production of Israeli interceptor missiles.
A big plus for the axis of resistance.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 1 2024 20:12 utc | 385

Regarding the Iranian missiles. The impact explosions seem small. The hit accuracy seems low. From a military effectiveness perspective, that’s a bad combination. The impacts look impressive, but I don’t know how much damage they did to their intended targets.
Here are a few thoughts off the top of my head. It takes a large missile to lift a large explosive payload the distance these are going. If the missile can’t lift a large warhead, you need excellent accuracy so the warhead within a close distance to the target.
Are the Iranian missiles use only inertial guidance, how good is it? Do the Iranians use inertial guidance with GPS updates enroute? If they do, how prone are they to GPS spoofing or jamming?
Finally, are the Iranians using older, and less capable missiles, keeping their more modern missiles with larger warheads and greater accuracy for future operations?

Posted by: Nobody Special | Oct 1 2024 20:14 utc | 386

What we see now is what happens when the UN fails to do its job, on multiple occasions.
The UN is broken, time to disregard it and get on with the job of removing the israelies from Palistian. No talks needed.
I bet their will be a rush to leave israel in the comeing days. Rats leaveing a sinking ship.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 1 2024 20:14 utc | 387

Honzo @ 300

The Zionazis have followed the same path as the Ukronazis, deliberately wrecking any possibility of living at peace with their neighbors, and the destruction of the Zionist Entity is pretty solidly baked in now. Whether the rest of the region or the rest of the world gets scrapped too is what remains to be seen.

Feature not a bug, hence the purging over the last 25ys of all reasonable, informed, experienced people throughout the western media, academia, culture, political class, diplomatic core. The neocons wanted to guarantee there could be no retrograde, read: pragmatic, peace oriented, respected, force that can stop the juggernaut to take out Iran, Russia and China. The fallacy people make observing what is now happening is that unlike the cold war period, The Empire is not striving to maintain the status quo, but to destroy it. The fucked up thing is that so much of global productive industrial capitalism, Nike, Apple, McDonalds, etc etc is going along with the MIC and its suicidal dead end. I keep waiting for a giant part of capitalism to push back, maybe it’s all bankrupt, it may not want WW3 like the MIC, but it needs it.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 1 2024 20:15 utc | 388

It has been reported that Israeli Defense Minister Galant has not been reachable for 1 hour.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 1 2024 19:06 utc | 326

Not sure Bibi will be too upset. Nonetheless, if true, quite a hit.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Oct 1 2024 20:15 utc | 389

I don’t know why but current events reminds me a Cypress Hill tune : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I826gxc8TvI

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Oct 1 2024 20:23 utc | 390

Feature not a bug, hence the purging over the last 25ys of all reasonable, informed, experienced people throughout the western media, academia, culture, political class, diplomatic core. The neocons wanted to guarantee there could be no retrograde, read: pragmatic, peace oriented, respected, force that can stop the juggernaut to take out Iran, Russia and China. The fallacy people make observing what is now happening is that unlike the cold war period, The Empire is not striving to maintain the status quo, but to destroy it. The fucked up thing is that so much of global productive industrial capitalism, Nike, Apple, McDonalds, etc etc is going along with the MIC and its suicidal dead end. I keep waiting for a giant part of capitalism to push back, maybe it’s all bankrupt, it may not want WW3 like the MIC, but it needs it.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 1 2024 20:15 utc | 390
I agree, they’ve put themselves on Death Ground, as Sun Tzu would say. The problem is that they can’t win, by any means, but they can take everyone else with them when they go down. Global capitalism is certainly in crisis, perhaps the final crisis even without nuclear war, but nuclear war won’t help. Even if the main perps of this criminality survive in their New Zealand luxury bunkers, the society that creates their wealth and power will not. Is Zuck going to grow his own potatoes? Is Elon going to build his own robots from, literally, the ground up? These people are existentially dependent on that which they are on the verge of destroying, more so than Amazonian forest dwellers or even Idaho ranchers. If anyone survives, it will be people like that.

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 1 2024 20:25 utc | 391

Five IDF air bases are reportedly put out of action. It would be more amazing than not if there were no torched F-35 or F-16 among them.
Another video, of a potentially hypersonic impact.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1841210620315656192

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 1 2024 20:25 utc | 392

I have a question. If civilians in southern Lebanon have no place to go and no resources, is there a safe area they should head to? Are there refugee camps? Where exactly?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 1 2024 20:25 utc | 393

Posted by: Feck | Oct 1 2024 20:02 utc | 383
Those are videos of Israeli fireworks done in reverse celebrating the Liberation of Lebanon from animals.

Posted by: Surferket | Oct 1 2024 20:28 utc | 394

Now that thr false yisrael and its defense minister are no more, how long before the shills go away? Estimates?

Posted by: NJH | Oct 1 2024 20:30 utc | 395

@ surferket
why do you persist? if you are trying to look like an idiot – success!

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 20:32 utc | 396

🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Iran’s Revolutionary Guards: 90% of missiles hit their targets.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/32700
Based on videos we have seen, this does sound believable to me.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 1 2024 20:34 utc | 397

Most of the video showing a spat of arrivals with 45° are fake. It is an Iron dome recording played backward.

Posted by: speptic | Oct 1 2024 20:35 utc | 398

Posted by: james | Oct 1 2024 20:32 utc | 398
Sarcasm…. and very good sarcasm at that.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 1 2024 20:35 utc | 399

I don’t know why but current events reminds me a Cypress Hill tune : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I826gxc8TvI
Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Oct 1 2024 20:23 utc | 392
I really hate that group. This one seems more appropriate:
https://youtu.be/JozVSkZWEbw?feature=shared

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 1 2024 20:36 utc | 400