Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 2, 2024
Iran Attacked Israel Only After U.S. Rejected Its Moderate Stance

Yesterday a massive barrage of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel. It came after months of serious Iranian efforts (vid) to achieve better relations with the U.S. had failed. Israel had managed to sabotage those efforts to the detriment of its U.S. ally.

To understand what has happened – and, more importantly, why this attack was launched today – we need to look back.

On May 20 2024 then President of Iran, Ebrahim Raisi, died in a helicopter accident.

New elections were held in Iran and, to the astonishment of many, Masoud Pezeshkian, a moderate, won with a decent majority. Pezeshkian is a specialist in cardiac surgery with no experience in foreign policy. He had campaigned on reconnecting with the 'West', the lifting of sanctions on Iran and a generally more liberal policy.

On July 30:

Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was assassinated along with his personal bodyguard in the Iranian capital Tehran by an apparent Israeli attack. Haniyeh was killed in his accommodation in a military-run guesthouse after attending the inauguration ceremony for Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian.

The assassination of Haniyeh was a major offense against the sovereignty of the the Islamic Republic of Iran. It also was a personal offense against Masoud Pezeshkian's presidency.

The Supreme Leader of Iran Ayatollah Khomeini and the leadership of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC) wooed to retaliate for the strike. But the new president still argued to not retaliate but to seek accommodation through negotiations. He, at that time, still hoped that the U.S. would arrange for a ceasefire in Gaza and wanted to avoid that Iran would be blamed for a failure of those negotiations.

President Pezeshkian continued his moderate course. On September 23, during a his participation in the UN General Assembly in New York, he again put out feelers towards a new accommodation with the U.S. over Iran's nuclear program:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Monday emphasized his openness to a new international agreement over his country’s nuclear program — a subject that has fueled global tensions for years, risking potentially catastrophic warfare between Iran and the U.S.

Asked about restoring nuclear negotiations, Pezeshkian said through a translator: “I do hope we can … reach an agreement.”

He said Iran upheld its end of the nuclear deal unlike the U.S. — an assessment most outside experts share, though there are some long-standing concerns about Iranian compliance — and pointed to American diplomats saying time and again that a cease-fire deal in Gaza that can boost stability across the Middle East is just a week away.

Within Iran the moderated course was seen with suspicion:

The lack of trust specifically affects the calculus of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, he continued, in a tacit acknowledgment that the unelected Khamenei has the final say on Iran’s policies.

“His Eminence says, ’They say one thing, do another,” Pezeshkian said. The president promoted engagement with the outside world as he sought votes from Iranians, noting that easing sanctions could boost the economy amid popular unrest in the country, and in August, Khamenei gave him a cautious green light to bargain with the U.S. Another power center in the country — the elite Revolutionary Guard — is extremely leery of such talks.

Four days later Israeli air-strikes killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hizbullah and a major architect of the Iran led Axis of Resistance. Several other Hizbullah leaders as well as the deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), General Abbas Nilforoushan, were also killed in the strike.

Pezeshkian noted rather bitterly that the order by the Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahoo to kill Nasrallah had been given from New York:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the international community will not forget that the order for Israel’s terrorist act to assassinate Secretary General of the Lebanese Hezbollah resistance movement Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah was issued from New York.

In a message of condolences on Saturday, Pezeshkian said the United States cannot absolve itself of complicity with the Zionists in the terror attack against the Hezbollah chief.

The assassination of Nasrallah demonstrated that Pezeshkian's politics of moderation had failed.

After arriving back in Tehran Pezeshkian's tone had changed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the world should know that the blood of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah and his companions will continue to boil and turn into a bulwark against tyranny and oppression.

Addressing a cabinet session on Sunday, Pezeshkian said it is imperative for Tehran to give a “decisive” response to the criminal Israeli regime.

Iran's plans for retaliating against Israel required coordination with its allies. On Monday, September 30, Russia's Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin happened to be in Tehran for long planned talks about economic cooperation:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the implementation of critical projects between Iran and Russia will produce a huge capacity to counter cruel Western sanctions against the two countries.

in his remarks, the Iranian president warned that Israel is intensifying tensions with the direct support of the United States in order to prepare the ground for increasing the presence of the United States in the region.

This poses a “common threat to the interests of the regional countries and nations," he said.

The Russian premier expressed concern over the escalation of tensions in the region and said the US supports mounting conflicts in different parts of the world with the purpose of securing its own interests.

Therefore, he emphasized, independent countries like Iran and Russia, should accelerate cooperation to counter such measures.

Moscow was thereby likely informed of upcoming strikes against Israel. China was likewise assured and informed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the traditional friendship between the Iranian and Chinese nations has evolved into “deep, stable, and strategic” relations.

“I express my desire to work alongside Your Excellency to further develop comprehensive relations between Iran and China,” President Pezeshkian stated in his message to President Xi Jinping, written on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).

A few hours later, after Mishustin had left, Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps launched a volley of some 250 ballistic missiles towards Israel:

Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces:

Among our targets were Israel’s 3 main airbases, Mossad’s terror HQ, Radar sites, and gathering sites of armoured vehicles around the Gaza Strip, responsible for the genocide in Gaza.

Israel's 'Iron Dome' missile defense was unable to interdict a significant number of Iran's missiles.

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai – 17:06 UTC · Oct 1, 2024

Over 250 Iranian ballistic hit #Israel. Many buildings in Israel are damaged. The possibility of a regional war is growing. Israelis expected to retaliate and Iran will retaliate to the retaliation. …

Verified videos show dozens of impacts of Iranian missiles against targets in Israel. Several strikes hit near the Mossad headquarter in Tel Aviv. Allegedly a gas platform of the coast of Ashkelon was also hit. Video shows that it is engulfed in fire.

Other targets were likewise destroyed:

A massive Iranian ballistic missile strike on targets in Israel launched on October 1 has targeted Nevatim Air Base, among other key targets in the country. The facility hosts both of the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 fifth generation fighter squadrons, and was previously intended to host a third squadron of the fighters after they were delivered. Iranian media sources have reported that the facility was “completely destroyed” in the attack. Footage from Israel has confirmed the impact of dozens of ballistic missiles which Israel’s air defence network failed to shoot down, with targets impacted including the headquarters of the intelligence agency Mossad, located in Tel Aviv which was levelled by the attack.

Remarkably there are no reports of any civilian casualties.

Israel and Iran have now issued threats and counter-threats of further escalation.

But most importantly will be the stand the U.S. government is going to take.

Joining Israel an open war against Iran, which Netanyahoo has wanted to achieve for some time, would bog down the U.S. in another unwinnable war in the Middle East that would hurt its interests for years to come.

It would give time to China and Russia to expand their multilateral coalition to the further detriment of U.S. supremacy.

Comments

So, as Ritter concluded, both the Zionists and Outlaws need to think hard about a retaliatory strike, for Iran will surely strike again and much harder.
Posted by: karlof1 @ 393
I watch the same YTs as everyone else, Ritter and Escobar are triumphalists which is good in an existential war over the fate of humanity, but I doubt Iran/Hezbollah is as strong as they believe it is and that Zionists and Outlaws are as weak as they believe they are. Which means things will just get uglier and the ugliness will last a long time.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:03 utc | 401

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 17:35 utc | 284 “telemetry returns would provide the data” “Iran has its own ISR suite of satellites over the region”
The claim is that the Iranian missiles were broadcasting telemetry on their flight to Israel. Seems not too that stealthy.
You can google the list of satellites that Iran has launched to see the list of ISR satellites that make up the ‘suite’. And if you are really inclined you could plug their orbital data into various websites to figure out where they were yesterday at the time of the attack.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:04 utc | 402

Honzo@292 somehow thinks that the poverty of the masses would be a problem for US capitalists. It’s a political obstacle. Of course, US energy capitalists would export as much energy as possible…and put “their” own US customers on rationing. And they would justify it as patriotic sacrifice. (My personal opinion is the masses of people are far more patriotic than the higher classes but I’m no authority.) There is no economic crisis till the capitalists are losing money, however. Trumpers are proud to call for 200% tariffs, which will also hurt US consumers. Except for those who support Trump for other reasons and just ignore him when they wish. The military budget also hurts US consumers but the Duopoly gets away with that too.
I’ve forgotten who touts the Fortress America strategy as Trump’s capitalist genius, but an oil conflagration in the Gulf is Fortress America. The real obstacle to retrenchment of the US financial/monetary empire is that so many capitalists get their money that way, rather by energy (and food) sales. Or by manufactures, which are completely gone. (The relative weight in world economy of US manufacturing has indisputably decreased by that’s not the same of being gone.) US manufacturing is like the English aristocracy, they may not get the publicity but they are still around and by and large still rich and have a lot more discreet clout than is healthy for England. Sir Keir Starmer wouldn’t have accepted his knightood if the aristos didn’t still matter too.
As for the lack of political power of the Russian capitalists? Elvira nabiullina. Don’t exaggerate Putin’s “Bargain.”

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 2 2024 20:05 utc | 403

North Korea is quite friendly with Iran, so the US should be worried.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 20:05 utc | 404

I am not suggesting any correlation with the claimed analysis of the physics and maths of the flight paths of rockets and ballistic missiles – cos they are up in the air even stratosphere. It is not like driving a car with a mobile phone satnav..
We used to be big on Fireworks and Big Bangs in London like on November 5th And New Years Eve..We would go to the organised ones and then do our own (which were sometimes better)
So we set off this bog standard Chinese Firework from a Milk Bottle (in Forest Hill) It went straight up into the sky, went bang, made some pretty lights, and came back down again, almost in the same place – in the little hallway near our kitchen (we had left the back door open)
No harm caused to anyone..

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 20:05 utc | 405

Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 19:58 utc | 397
The amount of high grade Uranium Iran was producing made it clear they could at any time produce nukes. The enrichment level was too high for anything else used by Iran and in too larger quantities for medical or other research ect.
Both Russia and China were big on non proliferation but that ended when Trump reneged on the nuke deal. Nukes are absolutely critical to deter the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 20:07 utc | 406

“Your idea is laughable-a month or so ago Russia delivered S-400’s to Iran inter alia.”
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 10:15 utc | 42
“There is no evidence that is the case, it is just the claims of X and telegram click bait channels.”
Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 14:21 utc | 181
Would you like to wager on that supposition? I will give you 5-1 odds in favour of yourself
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 15:26 utc | 207
If there is evidence, then just post it instead of a nonsense wager reply…

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 20:07 utc | 407

“Your idea is laughable-a month or so ago Russia delivered S-400’s to Iran inter alia.”
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 10:15 utc | 42
“There is no evidence that is the case, it is just the claims of X and telegram click bait channels.”
Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 14:21 utc | 181
Would you like to wager on that supposition? I will give you 5-1 odds in favour of yourself
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 15:26 utc | 207
If there is evidence, then just post it instead of a nonsense wager reply…
I was going to add, and decided not to till a couple comments down, and more trolling so, the wager is you stop trolling.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 20:08 utc | 408

Some have forgotten about those Russian nuclear submarines patrolling both sides of the US, in the Atlantic and the Pacific. If I remember correctly they had been dispatched in 2022.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 20:08 utc | 409

“Nasrallah’s assassination has spread mistrust between Tehran and Hezbollah, and within Hezbollah, an Iranian official told Reuters. “The trust that held everything together has disappeared,” they said.
Khamenei, who has remained in a secure location inside Iran since Saturday, “no longer trusts anyone”, a source close to the Iranian establishment said.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/02/israel-iran-attacks-latest-updates-live-hezbollah-lebanon-beirut-strikes
I think this a very significant development if true, and might even cause both groups to not only doubt each other and Hamas, but precisely for this reason the official narrative of Oct 7, which the likes of Alexander Dugin, in Russia, have already strongly begun to question.

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 2 2024 20:10 utc | 410

Republicofscotland @ 397

If you hold to your statement above – then it doesn’t really matter what the X posts say about Iran having nukes.

Well, to me, but I don’t think the tweet was directed at me. It was directed to the sheeple of the golden fleece so they bleat in unison if/when Iran is massively attacked conventionally or otherwise. More likely it was probably just clickbait. I wouldn’t have known about it unless you posted on MoA, which is cool and why I hang here. MoA is a good filter for relevance.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:12 utc | 411

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 18:30 utc | 322
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What callousness? Unlike you I don’t openly cheer or Zionists and Nazis. It is pathetic when you cheer for evil and then try to passive-aggressively occupy the moral high ground. But, Gammas gonna Gamma.
My point, which will be difficult for you to understand as English is not your first language, is that the moment Iran wants to erase Israel, it will be erased. Native English speakers would have understood that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 20:12 utc | 412

I was going to add, and decided not to till a couple comments down, and more trolling so, the wager is you stop trolling.
Posted by: Rhymerez aka vargas aka rk aka gary aka nafotard#5836 | Oct 2 2024 20:08 utc | 407

Piss off back to your nafo petting zoo, troll

Posted by: 2TonCat | Oct 2 2024 20:14 utc | 413

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:59 utc | 399

To reach Iran, Zionist jest will need to be refueled.

Would that be complicated to pull off? Couldn’t they just park tankers above Jordan? Or occupied Syria?

Posted by: robin | Oct 2 2024 20:14 utc | 414

see video
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1841484463617827240
sarah @sahouraxo
“Unlike Israel which is carrying out a holocaust in Gaza, Iran struck Israel’s military targets. Because, unlike you, we actually care about human rights.”
—Iranian Professor Marandi teaching a lesson to a Sky News reporter
🔥🔥🔥

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 20:17 utc | 415

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:03 utc | 400
You are right, almost. I have been seeing these sucesive Middle East conflicts since I was a toddler and it is always the same plot and the same conclusion. Israel kicks some butt and then the US, NATO, or the UN, steps in, say enough and they all sit at a table, by “all” meaning the US, Russia, and some other world powers, usually excluding those who did the fighting and dying, and give some kind of conclusion to the whole thing. For now.
Point is, something we should all remember, no one in this world wants to have a nuclear war and the end of civilization for some land dispute in the Middle East about which 99% of mankind doesn’t even care.

Posted by: Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 20:20 utc | 416

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffF0bLQs0qY

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 20:20 utc | 417

LightYearsFromHome (410).
The X post has been around since at least Iran’s first attack on Israel (weeks ago) – that’s when I first saw it – I posted it in here back then – it may well just be propaganda – it may not – we won’t know for sure, if Iran has nukes or not – there’s no Mordechai Vanunu to whistleblow – yet.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 20:23 utc | 418

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 17:45 utc | 293 “Are you dead-sure positive that Russia is not feeding Iranian intel with satellite information”
That is certainly a better answer than the Iranian missiles broadcasting telemetry.
It is quite possible that is happening, but given the weather (cloud cover) at this point it is unlikely it has been done for all the missiles. Though over the next few days that is likely to be figured out for most of the missiles.
People in the West will be doing the same thing using commercial purchased imagery.
Of course, under the clouds at that airbase that I looked at, Israel might have the bulldozers running around cleaning things up and digging some holes to make it look like some missiles missed.
Put a line of holes over here so that Iran will correct the flight paths to move things too far the other way. 🙂 <- that's a joke.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:24 utc | 419

It makes you wonder how far Israeli behavior would have to go to actually get the US to take action or disobey Netanyahu.
Death squads? Nope, did that.
Gas chambers? Nothing
Palestinians forced to dig their own graves? Nada
Israel could recreate Auchwitz and the media would report it as Putin propaganda while the sheeple would bray that Israel has a right to defend itself. The only thing Netanyahu could do to make the US disobey or take action is to tell his NYC Zionist billionaire flying monkeys to stop bribing the Clintons and Lyndsey Graham or screw the MICs bottom line by inviting Putin and the Iranians over for dinner.
Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 17:27 utc | 280

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 2 2024 20:24 utc | 420

What the fuck are you talking about man…I asked for the model, not infantile bullshit.
Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 17:22 utc | 277
Clearly, you only want it so you can sniff the glue!
Now, with regard to concerns from some that the US had been given notice by Iran of the missile strike. If they did, I think it would be to make sure the US was awake and taking notice!
Have we now moved to the overt stage of “changes not seen in a hundred years”?

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 2 2024 20:24 utc | 421

Ludovic @ 409

Nasrallah’s assassination has spread mistrust between Tehran and Hezbollah, and within Hezbollah, an Iranian official told Reuters.

Same as saying, “an Iranian official told MI6”. I don’t see it. More psyops, the ol’, the savages are turning on each other, trick.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:25 utc | 422

The Spitfires and Hurricanes that got back to London Airport (then near Croydon ) close to where we live, were patched up, and refueled very quickly during The Battle of Britain 1940 – My Dad told me, and there was no shortage of teenage Pilots queuing up to shoot the Nazi’s down
More like a Pit Stop in a Racing Car – You Can Fly now..
might take a litlle bit longer with the current American junk
They should have kept the Harriers.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 20:25 utc | 423

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 20:08 utc | 408 “Some have forgotten about those Russian nuclear submarines patrolling both sides of the US, in the Atlantic and the Pacific. If I remember correctly they had been dispatched in 2022.”
I hope they have gotten some shore leave since then. 🙂
This is not new. The Soviets did that in the 1960’s and on.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:26 utc | 424

LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:03 utc | 400
US/Israel received a solid demonstration of Iranian capabilities. Any target in Israel can be hit, any US base in the region can be hit. The US is out in the open with zero defence capability. Israel is largely in the open with zero defence capability. Iran is deeply dug in.
I had originally thought iron dome was out of interceptors, but no drones were launched this time. It is more likely the sheer speed of the Iranian missiles was outside iron dome design specs so they did not launch.
Iran launched a range of missiles and very few if any were hit.
In the strike months ago one Iranian missile could be seen doing a little jink to avoid an interceptor and I saw one shot down.
The video I saw this time, all Iranian missiles appeared to be on a constant flight path or trajectory.
What was very noticeable was rocket engine burn approaching target.
General a turbine powered cruse missile will be powered for the entirety of its flight path, a ballistic missile has a short rocket burn to take it up to max speed then it follows a ballistic trajectory with slight correction.
Some of the Russian missiles, plus these Iranian missiles look to fire up the rocket engine again on approach to target. Perhaps two stage rockets.
The Kinzhal is described as semi ballistic, I assume due to the middle part of its flight at longer ranges being unpowered.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 20:27 utc | 425

That’s what UK did with V2s – reported the falls and damage in the centre as being NW of London, so that they were set by Germany to fall a bit more SE – and so missed the centre.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 2 2024 20:32 utc | 426

OldFart | Oct 2 2024 11:07 utc | 65
There is a very strong Anglo-American Supremicist theme running through most of the comments posted here.
Bullshit.
No, I’m wrong.
Complete and Utter bullshit.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Oct 2 2024 20:32 utc | 427

Any target in Israel can be hit, any US base in the region can be hit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 20:27 utc | 424

This is called proof by example.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 20:32 utc | 428

“Nasrallah’s assassination has spread mistrust between Tehran and Hezbollah, and within Hezbollah, an Iranian official told Reuters. “The trust that held everything together has disappeared,” they said.
Khamenei, who has remained in a secure location inside Iran since Saturday, “no longer trusts anyone”, a source close to the Iranian establishment said.”
Right on. And in a malevolent way it confirms what I wrote and what I think. These people can’t even trust each other, do you think for a moment that when the sh.. hits the fan they’ll trust Ivan coming to their rescue exposing himself to nuclear annihilation…? Just look how ineffective is Putin’s “strategic collaboration” with Erdogan and this guy isn’t even a fundamentalist, he is secular, more on the Westernnized side of Islam. He can’t trust the man on anything. Moscow had far closer ties with people like Nasser, Assad, etc, and yet not even for them it was ready to go toe to toe with the US.

Posted by: Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 20:33 utc | 429

Posted by: Ново З | Oct 2 2024 20:24 utc | 420 “Now, with regard to concerns from some that the US had been given notice by Iran of the missile strike. If they did, I think it would be to make sure the US was awake and taking notice!”
Reasonably sure that Iran gave notice by trotting out a some missiles and fueling them. For instance the Ghadr-110’s first stage is liquid fueled. It takes about 1/2 hour to get it ready for launch. The Emad is also liquid fueled.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:34 utc | 430

https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1841362157457301532
Patarames @Pataramesh
As expected:
Israel has no conventional means to conduct a significant conventional counter-force campaign
➡️ It must resort to counter-value strikes to sustain its ‘mad man’ posture
Barak Ravid @BarakRavid
💥🇮🇱🇮🇷Israeli officials say Israel will launch a “significant retaliation” to Tuesday’s massive missile attack within days that could target oil production facilities inside Iran and other strategic sites. My story on @axios
And
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10577
— 🇮🇱/🇮🇷 NEW: ‘Israel is considering striking Iranian assets in Yemen or Syria, instead of striking Iran directly’, says a U.S. Official – Politico
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10573
— 🇮🇱/🇮🇷 Israel has now put digital clouds above Tel Nof airbase as well as Nevatim airbase in today’s satellite imagery, to hide the damage done by Iran’s missile attack
@Middle_East_Spectator

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 20:34 utc | 431

Don’t you feel much less child-murderers’ attacks by their air force today than the days before the Iranian attack?, it seems they have been hit hard probably the 3 air bases are still out of service for their precious planes, and they can use only few of then, specially with the infiltration in South Lebanon, they should be bombing the bejesus near the area of land attack and carpet bombing all around South Lebanon.
The Occupied Palestine army have big problems, and not only with their CAS

Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 20:36 utc | 432

LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 20:03 utc | 400–
Thanks for your reply, a rare thing nowadays. I view Escobar and Ritter as information sources that need their own sifting as both make mistakes as we all do. I enjoyed Rick Wolff’s breakdown of the rhetorical term used by the Outlaw’s recently–“concern”–and showed how it actually meant very deeply troubled.
Hedging against risk is somewhat easy financially, but with war it’s very different. Russia changed all Outlaw calculations when the proxy aspect of the NATO war against Russia was removed with Russia’s new nuclear policy. The same is true for the outlaws with assisting an air attack on Iran, and the Iranians have said so very openly. Earlier this year we had a prolonged debate about the Zionist’s use of a nuke or not that was never resolved; it just faded away. We know the Iranians have planned what to do if nukes are used against it as do all the regional players–all have an interest in their not being employed. The problem rests with the Fanatical Zionists. And as deranged as Netanyahu is, there are other government members who are even more deranged.
Have the Zionists already lost? I’ve opined their Genocidal Project can’t be attained, but Ritter’s the one who just said, “Netanyahu has destroyed Israel.” Will the world allow Israel to exist after its crimes? The same Q applies to the Outlaw US Empire. China’s Global Security Initiative provides a hedge against war by eliminating hegemony of all sorts. Of course, to make it work, some action must be taken to eliminate the hegemonic actors. Can it be done without using military power? We see China hedging its bet by building up its military.
What’s that old adage again: When seeking peace, prepare for war.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:36 utc | 433

For those discussing the prospects for missile interception hit rates may I recommend Andrei Martyanov’s latest video, hot off the production line in the last hour or so. From about 18mins in, he discusses the maths/algebra behind this very topic in relation to Israeli claims for shoot-downs of the Iranian missiles.
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/10/mathematics-of-sead.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 2 2024 20:41 utc | 434

“Point is, something we should all remember, no one in this world wants to have a nuclear war and the end of civilization for some land dispute in the Middle East about which 99% of mankind doesn’t even care.”
GatoBart (415).
You say the above as though 99% of the world’s population has a say in if nukes will be used, or not – they don’t, small groups of politicians and military men have the final say – we are nothing but bystanders – watching from the sidelines as the nuke clock creeps closer to midnight – we now have low yield nukes – making it even more likely, that one could be fired in anger – if it hasn’t already – I personally don’t fancy humanities chances of reaching it, to the end of this century without nuking itself.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 20:41 utc | 435

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 20:34 utc | 430 ” Israel has now put digital clouds”
Funny.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:41 utc | 436

The genocide in Gaza – and the invasion of Lebanon is hurting the Zionists credit ratings.
Just imagine how bad it would be for the Zionists – if the US taxpayer wasn’t propping the occupying, apartheid military regime up.
“Global credit ratings agency Standard & Poor’s (S&P) downgraded Israel’s long-term rating from ‘A+’ to ‘A’ on Tuesday amid an escalating conflict with the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon.
On Friday, Moody’s credit rating agency slashed Israel’s credit rating by two levels, from ‘A2’ to ‘Baa1,’ with a negative outlook.”
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/geopolitical-risks-israels-credit-rating-downgraded-amid-escalating-conflict/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 20:42 utc | 437

robin | Oct 2 2024 20:14 utc | 413–
Tankers will be seen by Iranian radar and tip the hand; they aren’t needed for the local strikes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:43 utc | 438

Will the world allow Israel to exist after its crimes?
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:36 utc | 432

How can the remediation not trigger a purge? Is no corrective action to be taken to address the crimes committed? How much correction is enough?
A pendulum not at rest swings past center.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 20:43 utc | 439

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:43 utc | 437 “Tankers will be seen by Iranian radar and tip the hand; they aren’t needed for the local strikes.”
How far can Iranian radar see?

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:45 utc | 440

Michael A 308
Upon further reflection I think you might want to disclaim your suspicion of Genghis Khan as being a Cohen.

Posted by: reante | Oct 2 2024 20:46 utc | 441

LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 143
You told me you would never post on things as trivial as Trump or Kamala – here you go.
I know Trump is in bed with Israel – about as much as everybody with real chances on the presidency – while some, like Tulsi Gabbard or RFK junior, may be only virtue signalling to their AIPAC audiences – in order not to spoil their chances. And Trump’s policies towards Latin America were outrageous, I agree. It is mainly the relation to Russia where he makes a difference. Enough to drive the Neocons mad, and motivate them to launch their Russiagate wichhunt against him.
So he is better than Obama 4.0, embodied by Kamala Harris. Remember that the Obama 2.0 and 3.0 administrations brought us the current situation.

Posted by: grunzt | Oct 2 2024 20:47 utc | 442

I view Escobar and Ritter as information sources that need their own sifting as both make mistakes as we all do.
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:36 utc | 432
Very much so. Each have knowledge/expertise within their spheres. Very few, if any I guess, accurately predict future events though. If people with areas of expertise are taken as unimpeachable sources/word of god, that only leads to disappointment. Good sources of background information though in the areas of their expertise.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 20:47 utc | 443

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 2 2024 17:36 utc | 286
Konami | Oct 2 2024 9:13 utc | 23
*** IMO, WW1 didn’t come about by accident but by necessity: the crisis of capitalism couldn’t be addressed by lesser means. ***
Correct but — importantly — not entirely so.
A group of top people (of which Churchill was at that time a comparatively junior member) in the UK were determined to bring about such a war. They, as later became evident, wanted to triumph over not only the central European powers but ideally Russia as well.
Though — thanks largely to investment abroad (instead of reinvestment at home) via the City of London — Britain was already falling behind the USA and Germany where industry was concerned, there was also an imperialist mindset at work as it had been for centuries … cooking up strife abroad which could be exploited for the power-gain of the UK Establishment.

Yes, I agree. When I said that “WW1 was necessitated by a deep crisis of capitalism” then I didn’t mean that the relevant leaders acted as the agents of some abstract dogma: they all thought that the war was quickly winnable — the best investment of them all, as it also gets rid of competition.
By the end of the 19th century, earth was mostly split up, with some annoying and envious newcomers at the imperalist table (Germany, Italy). With extraction (at home and in the respective colonies) going down, war among the master races themselves (as opposed to via subhumans on other continents) must have felt natural. Of course imperialists never had qualms about sending their own proles to the slaughter — but the risk does go up.

The top of the UK Establishment is still at it today, despite having lost their empire.

To be honest, I have a hard time making sense of the UK position. Thanks for reply!

Posted by: Konami | Oct 2 2024 20:47 utc | 444

Dave | Oct 2 2024 19:50 utc | 392
Don’t assume that any nuke fired out of an Israeli sub would head toward Iran. History informs that false-flags are a pretty tried-and-true mechanism to pull in hedge-sitters. A nuke at the US would absolutely guarantee pulling the US into the fray. Israel wouldn’t think of doing so? Remember the USS Liberty!

Posted by: Seer | Oct 2 2024 20:50 utc | 445

too scents | Oct 2 2024 20:43 utc | 438–
Thanks for your reply. The Chinese have said to correct the problem you must go to its roots, and we know what those roots are. The Imperialist plan for the Levant was never implemented as planned; it got hijacked by Zionist Terrorists. They were deemed manipulable but have proven otherwise. There’s a deeper root cause–the Abrahamic religions–but they will be extremely difficult to excise from human culture.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:51 utc | 446

Posted by: grunzt | Oct 2 2024 20:47 utc | 441
Agree with most of this. RFK Jr., however, is doing more than virtue signaling to AIPAC. That ‘brain worm’ seems to have been implanted (see: “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan”) by a Mossad agent in his youth. Of course, he could also strongly suspect Israel of having a role in his father and uncle’s deaths, and possibly his cousin, and is thus trying to minimize the likelihood of an “accident” by pretending to be a raving Zionist.
Anyway, since I’m in a non-swing state that Trump will win anyway, if the Dems have succeeded in removing Jill Stein from my ballot when I go to performatively participate in Democracy (TM), I plan to vote for Trump because – for all sorts of reasons, none of which having to do with Culture Wars (TM) – Kamala disgusts me like Killary did.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 2 2024 20:52 utc | 447

https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1841521390517719353
Richard Medhurst @richimedhurst
Just curious: do the press that praised Israel’s pager attack as technical genius feel the same about Iran’s hypersonic missiles? They seem to have penetrated Israel’s defenses and hit military targets with no civilian casualties, yet I can’t find any Western press speaking of Iranian “technical prowess”.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 20:54 utc | 448

My advice to you Anglophiles is to learn Russian. And learn some Humility.
Posted by: OldFart | Oct 2 2024 11:07 utc | 65
All of us, myself included, could benefit from a bit more humility!
That said, Putin has changed the law so disaffected westerners can move to Russia without the need to speak Russian. If you are indeed disaffected, young, energetic, and religious it might make sense. If you are a “back to the land” type and starting a family, there is “free” land on offer in Siberia; if not, then marketable skills are almost a must. You still will need to learn Russian eventually and it is not an easy language for most to learn.

Posted by: Snowleopard | Oct 2 2024 20:55 utc | 449

If any nuclear country helps a non-nuclear country to attack the Motherland, then Russia would consider that nuclear country is legitimate nuclear target. USA, UK and France.
@Ed4 # 423 and others.
USSR had long gone, it is Russian Federation today. Usually, its better for the senile guys in the US and nutcases in the West to heed Putin’s words.
In the matter of Iran’s barrage on Israel on the 1st Oct, the Russian PM Mishutin was in Teheran on the 30th Sep.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 20:58 utc | 450

America’s Strategy of Renewal
Rebuilding Leadership for a New World

By Antony J. Blinken
Oct 1

A fierce competition is underway to define a new age in international affairs. A small number of countries—principally Russia, with the partnership of Iran and North Korea, as well as China—are determined to alter the foundational principles of the international system. While their forms of governance, ideologies, interests, and capabilities differ, these revisionist powers all want to entrench autocratic rule at home and assert spheres of influence abroad. They all wish to resolve territorial disputes by coercion or force and weaponize other countries’ economic and energy dependence. And they all seek to erode the foundations of the United States’ strength: its military and technological superiority, its dominant currency, and its unmatched network of alliances and partnerships. While these countries are not an axis, and the administration has been clear that it does not seek bloc confrontation, choices these revisionist powers are making mean we need to act decisively to prevent that outcome. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:01 utc | 451

Iran is BRICS country

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 21:02 utc | 452

I was just gobsmacked at the almost live coverage, though I do find both Telegram and Twitter annoying…I wont give any of these organisations my phone number..I get enough junk calls and emails as it is…and have no information re the airfields in Cyprus.
Why can’t people just stop doing this war shit. I have never been aware of any significant difference between Iranians and Palestinians except the Palestinians and The Ukraianians and Russians are being killed in vast numbers as are 31 Million people across the world who got covid jabbed.
Just Say No To War
No to Jabs
Yes to Love
Babies are Lovely – Don’t Kill Them You Evil Bastards
Its Our Grand Daughters 2nd Birthday very soon.
Sh is quite a Girl

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 21:02 utc | 453

Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:01 utc | 449
The hubris of a rotting and decaying empire…..
Blinken could be writing a speech for Putin or Xi, in which case some of those points would be very accurate about the US. Autocratic is a big one, much projection there.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 21:05 utc | 454

America’s Strategy of Renewal
By Antony J. Blinken
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:01 utc | 449

The USA should focus on looking after its own. If it can.
https://poweroutage.us/

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 21:06 utc | 455

Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 20:45 utc | 439–
We had that discussion here several years ago. This Iranian news item from 2020 says 3,000Km. This Sputnik item says Iran can detect the F-35’s unique radar signature. Of course, the actual range of Iranian radars will be classified.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 21:07 utc | 456

ostro | Oct 2 2024 21:02 utc | 450–
And SCO, which has more of a defense-oriented nature aimed at terrorism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 21:11 utc | 457

Israel, just like USA can only attack weaker countries, but when there is a real tough guy in the neighbourhood, it runs away. USA can always run away to its large island between the oceans, but where can Israel run? Yesterday, both Israel and the US got a good lesson. The old man with one leg in the grave might give out funny noises, but some guys around him know that the US will not withstand a nuclear attack. Israel is a small fish, it is the US, Iran and the Global South is after.

Posted by: ostro | Oct 2 2024 21:12 utc | 458

karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:43 utc | 437 and Oct 2 2024 21:07 utc | 454
Would early detection be a problem in an Israeli strike on Iran?
I suppose valuable mobile targets could be moved to safety, but how many of those would there be?

Posted by: robin | Oct 2 2024 21:14 utc | 459

Iran sent a message to Israeli terrorists!
“You are not the chosen people of God. God does not choose terrorists to represent him! We the people who seek peace are the chosen ONES! You fuck with us! And the world will show you what HELL looks like.”
Peace and love!
Regards

Posted by: Mr.Ass | Oct 2 2024 21:14 utc | 460

Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:01 utc | 449–
Thanks for that Don. I see Blinken lies in the first sentence: “… are determined to alter the foundational principles of the international system.” No, they are members of the Friends in Defense of the UN Charter, which means the exact opposite of Blinken’s lie. Gotta be ballsy to lie at the outset of one’s essay. Which is to say, it’s just another wad of junk to delete or toss into the recycling bin.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 21:15 utc | 461

“Nasrallah’s assassination has spread mistrust between Tehran and Hezbollah, and within Hezbollah, an Iranian official told Reuters. “The trust that held everything together has disappeared,” they said.
Khamenei, who has remained in a secure location inside Iran since Saturday, “no longer trusts anyone”, a source close to the Iranian establishment said.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/02/israel-iran-attacks-latest-updates-live-hezbollah-lebanon-beirut-strikes
I think this a very significant development if true, and might even cause both groups to not only doubt each other and Hamas, but precisely for this reason the official narrative of Oct 7, which the likes of Alexander Dugin, in Russia, have already strongly begun to question.
Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 2 2024 20:10 utc | 409

The GUARDIAN!!!! Hahahah!
Has an actual journalist confirmed this?

Posted by: Dermot O Connor | Oct 2 2024 21:15 utc | 462

I suppose valuable mobile targets could be moved to safety
Posted by: robin | Oct 2 2024 21:14 utc | 457

Probably not. At Mach 5 there is about 15 minutes between Israel and Iran.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 21:19 utc | 463

@too scents | Oct 2 2024 21:06 utc | 453
The USA should focus on looking after its own. If it can.
The “USA” are the profiteers that manage things to their credit, especially the $900 billion “defense” budget.
But hey, this is a democracy (Biden continually says) so we did it….s/

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:19 utc | 464

Gatobart @ 415

You are right, almost. I have been seeing these sucesive Middle East conflicts since I was a toddler and it is always the same plot and the same conclusion.

Same as me, child of the space age and the Cold War, our formative perspective came from watching the forces of liberation struggle and revolution fighting the status quo and The Empire defending it. That’s over with the rise of China, not to mention Russia’s renaissance under Putin. Now the empire is the one attacking the status quo, actually trying to destroy it.
The problem isn’t Russia or China per se, it’s that western capital accumulated over the last three hundred years is moving to Asia under the auspices of China, away from London and NY, with a fair part of EU capital since 1997 moving ever more into Russia – Putin’s Russia, not Yeltsin’s Russia. All at an accelerating pace and taking the industry and technology that that capital controls with it. Any sitting down at the table to “give some kind of conclusion” leaves that historical vector in place.
That’s what the USA is actually fighting, not China but the historical transition of capital from west to east, by association if not defintion it’s a transition of power. It’s existential for western hegemony and another one of those crises of capitalism that are unresolvable except through world war, at least that’s how it proved in the past. I don’t subscribe to history repeats or rhymes so I hope the hybrid part of WW3, the part over the hearts and minds of capitalism being waged by China and Russia and adherents in the global south, the BRICS+, is what’ll have the greatest impact rather than guns, missiles and bombs.
And I’m a commie, but it ain’t 1917, the choice given us is between industrial capitalism and fascist neoliberal capitalism, not much worker’s utopia to be seen out there, though there is multipolar triumphalism to cheer us up. Meh, if you were working as a slave in Minas Gerais under colonial capitalism, working now in neobilberal fascist capitalism, you’ll still be fucked there under multipolar capitalism. One of the other formative parts of my growing up during the space age was Dune.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 21:19 utc | 465

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 20:41 utc | 434
I disagree. We are already 80 years into the nuclear age and still our leaders haven’t blown the world up with us on top. And men mad enough to get close to that possibility haven’t lacked from the very beginning, from Gen. Curtis Le May for whom there was no problem big enough that a nuke big enough couldn’t solve to Gen. Alexander “I’m in charge” Haig who during one of those usual crisis in the Caribbean, I think the one related to the Granada invasion of 1983 was pleading to Pres. Reagan: just give me the order and I’ll turn the fu… island (Cuba) into a parking lot! In fact the US military never abandoned the idea that a nuclear war could start at any moment, during each international crisis, be that because of Cuba, the Middle East, the Iron Curtain in Europe, China, Vietnam, Korea, etc. We have lived with that for almost a century and I think we can carry on for another 80 years. You get used to live like that.
In any case, going back to the initial subject, that we have a voice or not about this conflict, my experience tells me that for at least 99 out of 100 people in this world it doesnt make no difference who rules that piece of land or who lives there.

Posted by: Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 21:20 utc | 466

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 21:07 utc | 454 “This Iranian news item from 2020 says 3,000Km”
They must have some pretty fancy stuff.
The US Patriot radar only reaches out about 150km, the current AWACS can only see ouat 400km and the new one reported range is only 600km. The THAAD’s radar range is reported to be 1,000km.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 2 2024 21:20 utc | 467

Israel has completely erased 902 Palestinian families in Gaza in one year. What they mean by this is: 902 families have no family members left alive – the entire family has been murdered by the IDF.
In the case of 1,364 other families, there is only one person per family still alive. In the case of 3,472 other families, there are only two people still living.
This is astonishing to me. How can anyone try to claim Israel is NOT committing genocide and ethnic cleansing? This is prima facie proof.
Full article: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241002-902-palestinian-families-wiped-out-in-gaza-by-israel-over-past-year-media-office/

Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 21:23 utc | 468

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
On the first day of the Israeli invasion of #Lebanon, 3 Merkava, one of the best tanks in the world, was burned by the Resistance with the crew.

https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1841566074669518964
The expected Hezbollah missile strikes did not occurr, due either to Hezbollah not having that capacity to begin with or it was destroyed in the bombing.
Iran has however came through with the expected goods and Hezbollah are very much in their element, their area of expertise, when it comes to Israeli ground invasion.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 21:27 utc | 469

robin | Oct 2 2024 21:14 utc | 457–
Early detection of an attack is always a plus as more effective civil defense can be attained. As Ritter depicted, those planes would be on their way to Iran while Iran’s counterattack would already be detonating on Zionist targets: “Would those airplanes have a base to land at” is how he concluded. Iran has its own AD suite that has yet to be tested, but how it’s deployed is unknown. Just because Iran’s been heavily sanctioned since 1979 doesn’t mean it lacks capabilities as was just demonstrated. I’m very impressed with Russian AD systems, and given their partnership would expect Iran to have similar capabilities.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 21:27 utc | 470

Thanks for that info – its also said that Iran is the oldest country in the world – it was also a founding member of the UN – Iran presented the UN with a copy of the Cyrus Scroll – which supposedly contains, some of the first human rights ever declared – declared by Cyrus the Great.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 18:31 utc | 324
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The Persian state was already ancient when Alexander the Great came to call . . .

Posted by: Jane | Oct 2 2024 21:30 utc | 471

The Secretary General of the United Nations, António Guterres, has been banned from entering Israel over his response to Iran’s ballistic missile bombardment. In a statement, Israel’s Foreign Minister Israel Katz called Guterres an “anti-Israel secretary-general who lends support to terrorists”.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2024 21:36 utc | 472

watch the video; what an amazing difference between US media then in 1982 with John Chancellor, “we are now dealing with an imperial israel”, and others, “helicopter gunships deliberately fired a missile into a crowd of civilians last night killing 7 Palestinians and wounding 70 more”, denouncing the israeli invasion and its subsequent massacres,
but Now, it’s essentially all pro-zionist, pro-colonialist rubbish in the USA and the UK
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1841517671180804578
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Watching this harrowing footage of Israel’s 1982 massacres in Beirut and how msm covered it at the time offers a complete contrast from CNN’s tightly controlled coverage of the Gaza genocide, monopolized by the Tel Aviv Triad of Tapper, Bash and Blitzer
https://x.com/OccupationMovie/status/1841494731584315638
Occupation Movie @OccupationMovie
During Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon, amazing to see US media shine a light on the sheer brutality of the invasion & openly blast Israel as an imperial bully. Far cry from the stenographers to power posing as “journalists” in corporate media today.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 21:37 utc | 473

The USA should focus on looking after its own. If it can.
https://poweroutage.us/
Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 21:06 utc | 453
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The situ in western North Carolina is catastrophic.
Substations are still underwater.
Duke Energy says they have no idea when they can restore them.
Problem: No transformers and no chance of getting any.
I think I saw the figure that up to 320 new transformers will likely be needed. There are none on a shelf somewhere.
Oh, 59 transformers and other hardware were sent to the Ukraine!!!
See Grid Apocalypse:
https://x.com/anyaparampil/status/1841538890848424267
“Americans are not only seeing their stolen wages go to foreign wars rather than our own country—our government also sent transformers and other electrical equipment that could now save the Carolinas to UKRAINE”
Who the eff is in charge at FEMA?
Apologies if OT, but Ukraine and Ziostan wars seem to be joined at the hip . . . Both of them draining off resources needed in the US.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 2 2024 21:41 utc | 474

Don Bacon @ 470

The Secretary General of the United Nations, António Guterres, has been banned from entering Israel over his response to Iran’s ballistic missile bombardment. In a statement, Israel’s Foreign Minister Israel Katz called Guterres an “anti-Israel secretary-general who lends support to terrorists”.

I saw that. Nobody loves you when you are a butt-fucked poodle, not even the people butt-fucking you.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 21:42 utc | 475

Israel conducted a raid today (Wed, 10/2) in a Damascus residential apartment specifically to kill Nasrallah’s son-in-law. They succeeded:
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The son-in-law of Hassan Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah who was killed last week in a massive Israeli strike in Beirut, has also been killed in an Israeli raid in Damascus on Wednesday, according to a report.
Hassan Jaafar al-Qasir was “among two Lebanese victims of the Israeli raid which targeted an apartment in a residential building in the Al Mazzeh district of the Syrian capital”, AFP reported, citing the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
A source close to Hezbollah confirmed the report to the news agency.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/02/israel-iran-attacks-latest-updates-live-hezbollah-lebanon-beirut-strikes?page=with:block-66fdb6848f081e31ced38bc2#block-66fdb6848f081e31ced38bc2
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Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 21:42 utc | 476

So he is better than Obama 4.0, embodied by Kamala Harris. Remember that the Obama 2.0 and 3.0 administrations brought us the current situation.
Posted by: grunzt | Oct 2 2024 20:47 utc | 441
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The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Do you feel better about choosing one evil over another?
Do you think the dead will be happier to be killed by Trump than Kamala, not that either of them will have the authority to direct the USG in any meaningful way?
Friend, I know it is difficult. Just universally stand against evil (quietly if you must) without compromise. Don’t rationalize giving tacit approval by voting for this Satanic farce.
Like restraint is an action, not voting is also an action. Won’t change the outcome but it will keep your soul cleaner.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 21:45 utc | 477

@466 teri
And that is not to forget that families are much larger in the region also.
Dave above suggests attacks on Gaza have diminished since Iran missiled, but it seems same or increased. Same for Lebanon, casualties are around two thousand after a few days. Just now there are new strikes on Beirut. What seems to have decreased are the broader attacks on southern Lebanon. Syria was targeted again yesterday, something to do with IRGC meeting but didn’t catch the detail.
“Israel” seems intent on replying to Iran in the near term.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 2 2024 21:45 utc | 478

Will the world allow Israel to exist after its crimes?
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 20:36 utc | 432
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Yes. Who will stop it and how?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 21:47 utc | 479

@ michaelj72 # 471
Man, you find the most interesting stuff. Thanks!
– Teri

Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 21:47 utc | 480

my experience tells me that for at least 99 out of 100 people in this world it doesnt make no difference who rules that piece of land or who lives there.
Gatobart (464).
So in your experience 99% of people don’t actually care if Israel occupies the land or expands upon it – bearing in mind, its committing genocide in the process. What does that say about humanity.
As for nukes – eighty-years is nothing – we’ve already nuked two-cities and came close to a nuclear war – not to mention Scott Ritters excellent article on the 72 Minutes form nuclear war – which you can find in this link.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/09/27/scott-ritter-life-preempted/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 21:48 utc | 481

“Scenes of Iranian missiles passing through Jordanian airspace towards occupation sites”
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/74355

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 2 2024 21:51 utc | 482