Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 2, 2024
Iran Attacked Israel Only After U.S. Rejected Its Moderate Stance

Yesterday a massive barrage of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel. It came after months of serious Iranian efforts (vid) to achieve better relations with the U.S. had failed. Israel had managed to sabotage those efforts to the detriment of its U.S. ally.

To understand what has happened – and, more importantly, why this attack was launched today – we need to look back.

On May 20 2024 then President of Iran, Ebrahim Raisi, died in a helicopter accident.

New elections were held in Iran and, to the astonishment of many, Masoud Pezeshkian, a moderate, won with a decent majority. Pezeshkian is a specialist in cardiac surgery with no experience in foreign policy. He had campaigned on reconnecting with the 'West', the lifting of sanctions on Iran and a generally more liberal policy.

On July 30:

Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was assassinated along with his personal bodyguard in the Iranian capital Tehran by an apparent Israeli attack. Haniyeh was killed in his accommodation in a military-run guesthouse after attending the inauguration ceremony for Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian.

The assassination of Haniyeh was a major offense against the sovereignty of the the Islamic Republic of Iran. It also was a personal offense against Masoud Pezeshkian's presidency.

The Supreme Leader of Iran Ayatollah Khomeini and the leadership of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC) wooed to retaliate for the strike. But the new president still argued to not retaliate but to seek accommodation through negotiations. He, at that time, still hoped that the U.S. would arrange for a ceasefire in Gaza and wanted to avoid that Iran would be blamed for a failure of those negotiations.

President Pezeshkian continued his moderate course. On September 23, during a his participation in the UN General Assembly in New York, he again put out feelers towards a new accommodation with the U.S. over Iran's nuclear program:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Monday emphasized his openness to a new international agreement over his country’s nuclear program — a subject that has fueled global tensions for years, risking potentially catastrophic warfare between Iran and the U.S.

Asked about restoring nuclear negotiations, Pezeshkian said through a translator: “I do hope we can … reach an agreement.”

He said Iran upheld its end of the nuclear deal unlike the U.S. — an assessment most outside experts share, though there are some long-standing concerns about Iranian compliance — and pointed to American diplomats saying time and again that a cease-fire deal in Gaza that can boost stability across the Middle East is just a week away.

Within Iran the moderated course was seen with suspicion:

The lack of trust specifically affects the calculus of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, he continued, in a tacit acknowledgment that the unelected Khamenei has the final say on Iran’s policies.

“His Eminence says, ’They say one thing, do another,” Pezeshkian said. The president promoted engagement with the outside world as he sought votes from Iranians, noting that easing sanctions could boost the economy amid popular unrest in the country, and in August, Khamenei gave him a cautious green light to bargain with the U.S. Another power center in the country — the elite Revolutionary Guard — is extremely leery of such talks.

Four days later Israeli air-strikes killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hizbullah and a major architect of the Iran led Axis of Resistance. Several other Hizbullah leaders as well as the deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), General Abbas Nilforoushan, were also killed in the strike.

Pezeshkian noted rather bitterly that the order by the Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahoo to kill Nasrallah had been given from New York:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the international community will not forget that the order for Israel’s terrorist act to assassinate Secretary General of the Lebanese Hezbollah resistance movement Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah was issued from New York.

In a message of condolences on Saturday, Pezeshkian said the United States cannot absolve itself of complicity with the Zionists in the terror attack against the Hezbollah chief.

The assassination of Nasrallah demonstrated that Pezeshkian's politics of moderation had failed.

After arriving back in Tehran Pezeshkian's tone had changed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the world should know that the blood of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah and his companions will continue to boil and turn into a bulwark against tyranny and oppression.

Addressing a cabinet session on Sunday, Pezeshkian said it is imperative for Tehran to give a “decisive” response to the criminal Israeli regime.

Iran's plans for retaliating against Israel required coordination with its allies. On Monday, September 30, Russia's Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin happened to be in Tehran for long planned talks about economic cooperation:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the implementation of critical projects between Iran and Russia will produce a huge capacity to counter cruel Western sanctions against the two countries.

in his remarks, the Iranian president warned that Israel is intensifying tensions with the direct support of the United States in order to prepare the ground for increasing the presence of the United States in the region.

This poses a “common threat to the interests of the regional countries and nations," he said.

The Russian premier expressed concern over the escalation of tensions in the region and said the US supports mounting conflicts in different parts of the world with the purpose of securing its own interests.

Therefore, he emphasized, independent countries like Iran and Russia, should accelerate cooperation to counter such measures.

Moscow was thereby likely informed of upcoming strikes against Israel. China was likewise assured and informed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the traditional friendship between the Iranian and Chinese nations has evolved into “deep, stable, and strategic” relations.

“I express my desire to work alongside Your Excellency to further develop comprehensive relations between Iran and China,” President Pezeshkian stated in his message to President Xi Jinping, written on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).

A few hours later, after Mishustin had left, Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps launched a volley of some 250 ballistic missiles towards Israel:

Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces:

Among our targets were Israel’s 3 main airbases, Mossad’s terror HQ, Radar sites, and gathering sites of armoured vehicles around the Gaza Strip, responsible for the genocide in Gaza.

Israel's 'Iron Dome' missile defense was unable to interdict a significant number of Iran's missiles.

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai – 17:06 UTC · Oct 1, 2024

Over 250 Iranian ballistic hit #Israel. Many buildings in Israel are damaged. The possibility of a regional war is growing. Israelis expected to retaliate and Iran will retaliate to the retaliation. …

Verified videos show dozens of impacts of Iranian missiles against targets in Israel. Several strikes hit near the Mossad headquarter in Tel Aviv. Allegedly a gas platform of the coast of Ashkelon was also hit. Video shows that it is engulfed in fire.

Other targets were likewise destroyed:

A massive Iranian ballistic missile strike on targets in Israel launched on October 1 has targeted Nevatim Air Base, among other key targets in the country. The facility hosts both of the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 fifth generation fighter squadrons, and was previously intended to host a third squadron of the fighters after they were delivered. Iranian media sources have reported that the facility was “completely destroyed” in the attack. Footage from Israel has confirmed the impact of dozens of ballistic missiles which Israel’s air defence network failed to shoot down, with targets impacted including the headquarters of the intelligence agency Mossad, located in Tel Aviv which was levelled by the attack.

Remarkably there are no reports of any civilian casualties.

Israel and Iran have now issued threats and counter-threats of further escalation.

But most importantly will be the stand the U.S. government is going to take.

Joining Israel an open war against Iran, which Netanyahoo has wanted to achieve for some time, would bog down the U.S. in another unwinnable war in the Middle East that would hurt its interests for years to come.

It would give time to China and Russia to expand their multilateral coalition to the further detriment of U.S. supremacy.

Comments

What the fuck are you talking about man…I asked for the model, not infantile bullshit.
Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 17:22 utc | 277
He answered correctly. You hit a fast missile with a slow missile exactly the same way that you’d hit a fast moving car by walking in front of it, provided that you can see or predict its path ahead of time and are close enough.
As for “model”, you don’t seem to even know anything about math or algorithms, do you?

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 17:59 utc | 301

The psychological warfare heing used by USUKIS was used before by Nimrud
of Ibraheem Time and the Pharaoh of Moses time, by Ghenghis Khan and by the US at Hiroshima.
Only God has power of life and death . Nice work if you can get it, terrorising people, but special place in Hell for those who inflict it.
Allahu akbar. God says, vengeance is Mine .

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 2 2024 18:04 utc | 302

@300
In Ukraine they use pickle jars and Babushkas for this purpose

Posted by: KirovLes | Oct 2 2024 18:04 utc | 303

Posted by: JackG | Oct 2 2024 17:14 utc | 269
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I’ve been to Venezuela but Uncle Sam wasn’t picking up the tab.
Do you have enough self-awareness to admit that America is as corrupt as any country?
Argentina has been an economic basketcase for decades. Milei is there to do a libertarian planned demolition on behalf of America. More foreign meddling not unlike what America tried in Russia in the 90s.
The American hatred of the Venezuelan regime is rooted in their massive oil reserves and opposition to US colonialism and Zionism.
It’s nice that we’re getting a marginally more competent form of troll now.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 18:04 utc | 304

Honzo@1735
Yeah. Saw that same crater/missile image. I do not discount the possibility that it could also have been a Hezbollah weapon which might not have featured the technology in Iran’s hypersonics. However, it could also have been one of the Iranian mere ballistic missiles. Either way, a hypersonic image was not likely probable.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 18:06 utc | 305

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 2 2024 18:04 utc | 301
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Excellent comment.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 18:09 utc | 306

Cynic@1736
Astute posting and well informed on the machinations of the English establishment…with the occasional Quislingite Scotsman to add a bit of flavor. We I a Brit, I’d say that “Perfidy are Us”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 18:10 utc | 307

“Highly likely they would never do that against the current carrier in the Arabian Sea…the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
Please consider the symbological, psychological impact of sinking that iconic name.”
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 17:41 utc | 290
If in a treacherous unprovoked attack the ABRAHAM LINCOLN send their planes to attack Iranian military base and also civilians facilities (as is usually the case of the yanks do), if it is in their range, I am sure the Iranians will sunk the carrier with all the sailor and pilots inside, in an act of self-defence.
If after that the USA use nukes inside Iran, there will be nuke explosions inside USA in a not distant future, if they use conventional means, the Iranians will attack with conventional means.
The Pentagon knows the carriers are sitting ducks designed to bomb mostly disarmed militias and countries without capacity to respond and they will send the carrier far away from Iran, and that means their air wings will be much less effective in attacking Iran.
No carrier has pass through the Red Sea after the Houthis make the threats to the Pentagon, and they also has the capacity at least to make significant damage to the carrier and render it not capable of sending and receiving planes.
America has never fought a war alone again an industrialized country of 90 million people and in their region; the weight of WWI and WWI was on the French, English side and in WWII was the Red Army who defeat the Germans. The US army alone would never ever, in 100 years, would have defeated Germany in WWI nor in WWII, nor they will defeat Iran now with Israel (with an army design to murder children and make ethnic cleansing and torture civilians)

Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 18:11 utc | 308

The psychological warfare heing used by USUKIS was used before by Nimrud
of Ibraheem Time and the Pharaoh of Moses time, by Ghenghis Khan and by the US at Hiroshima.
Posted by: Giyane | Oct 2 2024 18:04 utc | 301
Interesting similarities.
Pharaoh = the original ruler that the jewish god puppet “yahwew” imitates
Genghis Khan = real name George Cohen, a khazar, I’ve read. No idea if this is true or not, but it makes perfect sense
The US at Hiroshima = jews

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 18:14 utc | 309

too scents @1745
Whatever you might be smoking, it is not the good, green organic stuff. “It doesn’t matter” how a carrier is sunk? Woo, woo.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 18:14 utc | 310

horseguards@296….it’s the Call Ahead, perfected by the IRA, that way, no serious damage is done to the fields or farmers. Got to protect those olive groves.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 18:16 utc | 311

Re: cargo ships live tracking
Haifa – nil traffic
Ashdod – busy
Eilat – dead
Suez Red Sea approaches – very busy
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:34.5/centery:32.3/zoom:7

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:18 utc | 312

“Iran tried for peace, which all the world can now see, but was lied to yet again by the Outlaws, which is another fact the world can see.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 16:31 utc | 236
I think their president was right to do that prior to the strike. Of course nothing came of it. However as you said they once again demonstrated that they are reasonable and looking for peace.
I’m expecting a big surprise on October 7th.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 18:21 utc | 313

Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 16:42 utc | 244
(exo-atmospheric submunitions)

Thanks.
That sounds very plausible and much simpler than ducking and weaving at Mach 2,3, or 4+ at the right time. I didn’t see any Iranian missiles following an evasive path as they entered the AD hot zone.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 2 2024 18:21 utc | 314

reply to 309
Speaking of carriers, I have wondered how aircraft carriers avoid being quickly useless by missiles hitting the flight deck. It’s bad enough for F-16’s to use sloppy, unswept landing strips but I would think punching many holes in a aircraft deck means the planes in the air can’t land and must find a base quickly or ditch in the sea.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 18:22 utc | 315

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 2 2024 17:57 utc | 298
The problem is not the calculation.
THE problem is if, given all the inputs, an intersection point (point of interception) exists or not.
If the point doesn’t not exists no interception is possible.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 18:22 utc | 316

Posted by: rk | Oct 2 2024 9:14 utc | 25
Iran, Russia and China took paart in joint naval exercise “Maritime Security Belt-2024.” This is the fifth such exercise.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 2 2024 18:23 utc | 317

you don’t seem to even know anything about math or algorithms
Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 17:59 utc | 300

Interception is a heuristic, not an algorithm.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:24 utc | 318

“It doesn’t matter” how a carrier is sunk?
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 18:14 utc | 309

Indeed it doesn’t. The sinking of a carrier is the end of a chapter or perhaps the whole story.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:27 utc | 319

Al-Qassam Brigades Claims Responsibility for Jaffa Operation

…..In detailing the attack, the statement explained that the fighters successfully infiltrated occupied territories, stabbing an occupation soldier and seizing his automatic weapon. They then launched a coordinated assault in two different locations within Tel Aviv, including a train station, where they engaged and eliminated Zionist forces at close range…..

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2217019
Now your know the rest of the story

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:28 utc | 320

Jure (204).
Yes – thanks for the correction – and Milei is a s you say a Us puppet mad man.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 18:29 utc | 321

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 18:22 utc | 315
I think it’s based on vectors, but the stuff for tracking a target must be very sophisticated. It has to be based on rate of change of height, and position on the ground, which will tell you the current x,y,z vector. The rate of change in x, y, z will always create a new vector, and the processing power and algorithms are so great that they will create/calculate/update the vector projection every passing nanosecond.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 2 2024 18:29 utc | 322

LoveDonbass@242
“Israel exists because Iran allows it.”
You’re funny, thousands of dead turn in their grave at your callousness, but then, you ain’t the one dying.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 18:30 utc | 323

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 18:22 utc | 315
Exactly…And it doesn’t exist…That is why I was interested in the model. You can fool yourself as long as you want, but if an object moves with mach 10, you will never ever be able to intercept it with an object that moves with mach 2 in reality.

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 18:30 utc | 324

Jane (201).
Thanks for that info – its also said that Iran is the oldest country in the world – it was also a founding member of the UN – Iran presented the UN with a copy of the Cyrus Scroll – which supposedly contains, some of the first human rights ever declared – declared by Cyrus the Great.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 18:31 utc | 325

Carrier Flight Deck ?
– Japanese Kamikaze attack on the USS Essexcaught on film
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hziFBOx4yqc&pp=ygUbS2FtYWthemllIHN0cmlrZSBvbiBjYXJyaWVy

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:32 utc | 326

Diplomacy round-up (from MEE):
Saudi Arabia , through its foreign minister, reaffirms no diplomatic relations with Israel without Palestinian state.
US Ambassador to UN: “”The IRGC was not protecting Iran from threats from another member state. Instead, the IRGC was acting in solidarity with Hezbollah after the killing of Nasrallah…” Greenfield added that the attack was “an escalation” and not “defensive”.  (She left out a few components from her equation)
Israel ambassador to UN: “This was a deliberate attempt to strike at the very heart of our society,” (yes, the F-35 bases and Mossad HDQ are indeed the “heart” of your society)
China ambassador to UN: “We urge all parties, in particular Israel, to exercise restraint and refrain from any actions that could lead to further escalation of the situation. We share the position of the United Nations that any Israeli crossing into Lebanon violates the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Lebanon.” (Flips the script using language previously uttered by US)
US State Dept spokesperson: US State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said the US was discussing with Israel what type of response it should take against to Iran. “But ultimately, it’s up to them — as it is for any sovereign country — to make their own decisions,” he said. (abject nonsense, does anyone take these people seriously?)

Posted by: jayc | Oct 2 2024 18:33 utc | 327

Edit:
As was demonstated several times in Ukraine by Ch-47M2 and once by
SS-N-33…

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 18:33 utc | 328

Honzo @ 285 / aristodemos @ 281

is that the former assiduously avoids targeting civilians, while the enemies of humanity wallow in their own blood shedding of the innocent.

If war comes your way my advice is either pick up a gun or head in the opposite direction, no matter what the intentions if you are a civilian you are in the way of both sides. My ghetto landlord kept a baseball bat in the office by the door, on it was written in professionally painted hand lettering: No Hard Feelings.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 18:38 utc | 329

Dave – 307 has a very good point here.
Its doubtful the USS Abraham Lincoln CVN Strike Group will be anywhere near the range of Houthi or Iranian land based SSM’s.
If the strike group is within range its a real, and inappropriate risk. Since the group is now without its fleet oiler, the USNS Big Horn, it will most likely be headed for Diego Garcia to refuel its escorts and aviation wing supplies soon.
Dave is correct the USN CVN strike groups have not used the Red Sea/Suez canal route since the Houthis have begun their SSM attacks on shipping in October 2023. Putting a $15B CVN in the narrows of the Red Sea and Suez Canal is again a huge risk not worth taking.
Note that the CVN USS Harry S. Truman Strike Group is on route to the Med, and is in the Mid-Atlantic now. There are no CVN strike groups currently on station in the Med. Various helo carriers, and destroyers are on station however near Cyprus. Even if they would be I would imagine that they would not be any closer to the war zone than a station far to the west of Cyprus………..do not tempt fate…….fate is a lonely hunter…hypersonic missiles are a huge threat.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 2 2024 18:38 utc | 330

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 10:16 utc | 43
“Its now up to the US for the next move.” And Iran’s counter could be shutting the Straits of Hormuz.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 2 2024 18:39 utc | 331

If war comes your way my advice is either pick up a gun or head in the opposite direction, no matter what the intentions if you are a civilian you are in the way of both sides. My ghetto landlord kept a baseball bat in the office by the door, on it was written in professionally painted hand lettering: No Hard Feelings.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 18:38 utc | 328
____
That’s not always useful advice, as the people of Gaza can attest.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 18:41 utc | 332

And Putin knew what to do with the people who refused the offer.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 2 2024 17:44 utc | 292
Whilst, I have more Respect for Putin, than any other President I can think of since John F. Kennedy, even The Americans, who claim to hate him, but have more respect for him, than anyone in their own American Government (not hard if you have seen both Dr. Strangelove, and One Flew Over The cuckoo’s Nest)…
I am still not convinced that Putin, has any respect (though he could be working for) The WEF, Globalist, Depopulation crowd) – not impossible (I have worked for people I came to seriously dislike)…
What is He going to Do Next?
The Debate a Couple of weeks ago (came down to) if you Crazy Brits want to Bomb Moscow, then decoded, cybercoded, and translated by the US PENTAGON and Even President Biden (Best Put Down of a UK Prime Minster Ever (THanks Yanks) from English (US) to English (UK)
Putin: “Read My Lips”
You Bomb Moscow : We Bomb London
Even The Israelis in Tel Aviv understand now

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 18:42 utc | 333

We Carried Out Three Operations against Ships in Red Sea, Indian Ocean – Ansarallah
October 2, 2024
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/we-carried-out-three-operations-against-ships-in-red-sea-indian-ocean-ansarallah/
Live shop tracker (linked in a post above) shows healthy Suez Traffic – just not genocide linked ships

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:42 utc | 334

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 2 2024 18:29 utc | 321
You can put all the vectors you want but the trajectory of the attacking rocket and the trajectory of the intercepting rocket are never granted to meet in one point, the interception point.
As a very bare example, if the attacking rocket is outside the interceptor rocket range, interception cannot happen even if the interceptor is hypersonic and the attacker is subsonic.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 18:44 utc | 335

Re aristodemos 267 – Kazan was chosen not only for the symbolism of its location but also it is deep in the heart of Russia, making it difficult to deliver a nuclear threat without detection. Russia has an extraordinary set of offensive and defensive weaponary. The US/UK/IS has little idea of the full depth and breadth owing to the fact that Russia has declined to use their most sophisticated and powerful weaponary in the context of the Ukraine battles or the incursion in Kursk. I believe Austin/Burns are well aware of this. Also, countries are sending diplomats, not their military leaders – any such attempt would trigger instant retaliation (read immense destruction) on all of the complicit countries. I have often wondered if the US fleet is in place around Israel to also employ rapid response if the criminally insane Netanyahu and his allies wildly go after civilians in Moscow, Ankara,Tehran or Jedda. Any country which employs psychologists as a part of their strategic thinking are aware of high potential for irrational actions by this delusional leader and many of his countrymen. Blinken et al obviously have never reflected on this, nor considered the high probability of desperate actions with this leader who contributed greatly to the national mantras of the Dahiya doctrine and the Samson option.
Not only Russia will be on red alert during the BRICS meetings. With the reckless assasinations of Haniyah, Soleimani and Nasarallah; with the concerns regarding moles, potential infiltration or exploding comms, security at Kazan will be at the highest levels by all participating countries.

Posted by: abierno | Oct 2 2024 18:46 utc | 336

Just contemplate this:
A report by the Government Media Office in Gaza confirmed Wednesday that the Zionist enemy army has wiped out 902 Palestinian families, erasing them from the civil registry by killing all of their members during a year of genocide in the Gaza Strip.

Posted by: JB | Oct 2 2024 18:47 utc | 337

Interception is a heuristic, not an algorithm.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:24 utc | 317
Heuristics are a type of algorithm. Generally we use them speed up calculations at the expense of accuracy often via branch exclusion. Because of the precision involved it isn’t something I would use to calculate a firing solution.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 2 2024 18:48 utc | 338

JackG (239).
President Irfaan Ali insists on installing U.S. military bases – with the sole objectives of threatening Venezuela – and trying to shirk the commitments and obligations established in the Geneva Agreement to peacefully resolve the controversy over the Essequibo region.
Of course its no surprise – that U.S. Ambassador to Guyana Nicole Theriot is staunchly supporting Guyana -in stealing assets from a disputed region namely Essequibo – the US had illegally held military drills in the waters – and it is building a military base as well in the disputed region.
Of course the US puppet Juan Guaido (an Obama lookalike) couldn’t overthrow Chavez or Maduro – which really pissed-off the US – so stealing assets via Guyana – which is now a US puppet state appears to be the next best thing.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 18:49 utc | 339

The speed is not the big issue. A sub-sonic interceptor could destroy a hypersonic missile if it could predict the correct point at which to do so, but this is basically impossible because the hypersonic missiles appear to have some maneuverability in the terminal stage and western defense are unable to make the continuous calculations necessary, and the maneuvers necessary, to keep up with them. This is, in part, a consequence of the US not teaching math in the public school system.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 2 2024 16:07 utc | 222
The term “hypersonic” has become the new “quantum”. Ballistic missiles which have been around for a century have now become “hypersonic missiles”
Up until the media got hold of it ‘hypersonic missile’ meant an air breathing missile launched from the ground, ship or aircraft that travelled at hypersonic speeds under it’s own power THROUGH the earths atmosphere and are manueverable.
There is only one nation on earth that have a true ‘hypersonic missile” and that’s Russia’s Tsircon. Yes China has hypersonic glide vehicles, Russia has aero-ballistic missiles that travel at hypersonic speeds and most nations with ballistic missiles have now been promoted to have hypersonic missile.
Frankly I think this is just negative marketing on behalf of the USA. They don’t want the world to know that Russia has technology that they can’t make no matter how hard they try so they want the world to think it’s no big deal and everyone has it.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Oct 2 2024 18:50 utc | 340

Posted by: Inka | Oct 2 2024 16:23 utc | 228
Why do you believe what reuters is writing?

Posted by: Naive | Oct 2 2024 18:50 utc | 341

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 18:44 utc | 334
The Nato motherfuckers that were hit by Zirkon in Ukraine had not the slightest idea what killed them…A peacefull dead maybe…

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 18:50 utc | 342

Because of the precision involved it isn’t something I would use to calculate a firing solution.
Posted by: anonymous | Oct 2 2024 18:48 utc | 337

Convergence is more important than precision. That is the whole point of employing heuristics.
Vast mismatches (in speed for example) do not converge.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:54 utc | 344

JackG.
As for the US puppet President of Argentina – Milei.
On Thursday, (Last Thursday) the National Institute of Statistics and Censuses (INDEC) announced – that the poverty rate in Argentina reached 52.9 percent during the first six months of President Javier Milei’s administration.
This figure represents an increase of 11.2 percentage points – compared to the poverty level at the end of 2023. It also marks the highest poverty rate, in the last 21 years. INDEC also confirmed – that 18.1 percent of Argentina’s population currently lives in extreme poverty. Regionally, the highest poverty rates were recorded in the northeast (62.9 percent) and the northwest (57 percent).
In response to INDEC’s findings, the Milei administration reaffirmed its political and economic ideology, which prioritizes fiscal balance and reducing the size of the state over social objectives.
Milei – also exacerbated poverty through policies that worsened working conditions – and led to the loss of over 100,000 jobs in construction, commerce, and industry. “The poverty figure shatters the government’s illusions,” commented the Argentine outlet Pagina 12.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 18:55 utc | 345

From live feed:
….ISRAELI MEDIA: More than 240 rockets were fired from Lebanon at northern areas today.
AL-MAYADEEN: Today, Hezbollah carried out 25 operations so far against the Israeli occupation forces……
Comment IDF fighters getting chewed up. I counted 4 attempted incursions all stopped apparently before crossing the border.
Pray for peace

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:58 utc | 346

I thought I was myself an ignorant in world politics but watching now how many connaiseurs are salivating at the prospects of the Russian cavalry stampeding in time to save in the nick of time the valiant Iranian settlers from the fury of the gallopiing Hebrews I have to change my outlook.
Fact is, 140 million or so Russian Christian couldn’t care less about the fate of Muslim Iran, or Muslim Yemen. BLood is thicker than water they say and so culture and tradition and by tradition White Russia has always felt it belongs to Christian Western civilization, or what is left of it, and that hasnt changed.
Russia wont go bat for Iran as the USSR, not a Christian but an atheistic world power, never did it for any Arab/Muslim nation, not even when Israel was beating the kr out of both Syria and Egypt in 1967 and then 1973 and thereafter. So stop dreaming, Ivan will never go all out with US/NATO for those pretty eyes in Tehran.

Posted by: Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 19:01 utc | 347

someone was mentioning rug sellers. whilst our kids were skiing with the school, 20 years ago, she said lets go to Morocco again.
Marrakech was pretty much the same as it was 20 years before, except we preferred the smell then
Donkey shit, vs Moped shit
Other than that, Morrocans were exactly the same – Very friendly refined people – much nicer than Paris, whilst retaining French cultural interest …
we declined the offer of a guide to take us round the Souk “we have been here before” (its all a game – and the Morrocans love talking to English people (negotiating the price) especially if you mention Coronation Street and Manchester United)
But the rug seller got it in the Atlas Mountains
He said – would you like to try our mint tea…

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 19:02 utc | 348

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 18:58 utc | 345
Has anyone seen Israel’s fighter jets providing close air support? Helicopters or gunships?
My bet is there is a trace of truth in that a chunk of those aircraft were taken out, if not aircraft, some munition/bomb or missile stockpiles in Nevatim or Hatzerim bases were taken out. Either they don’t have bombs or missiles or planes that can utilize them.
Now Nuttanyahoo launched an offensive with less than 1:1 ratio against a skilled veteran army fortified in hilly positions. What could go wrong?

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 2 2024 19:02 utc | 349

Arch – can you get more detail on this claim of 5 Merkavas destroyed ?
From live feed Chronc.
….HEZBOLLAH SOURCE to Al-Mayadeen: The heroic epic that our Mujahideen fought and are fighting against the Israeli elite forces on more than one axis on the front line in southern Lebanon, resulted in the killing and wounding of more than 80 officers and soldiers and the destruction of approximately 5 tanks……

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 19:02 utc | 350

If sky-high oil prices make it impossible for small families in the West to survive, is that success for the Zionist regimes of the world?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 16:35 utc | 238
Yes; as long as the brainwashed sheep keep blaming Iran, as long as they praise God for Israel not letting it get any worse, as long as this diverts their attention from the ongoing genocide in Gaza, and as long as they keep spending every waking moment of their lives on their hands and knees sucking Jewish cock.

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 2 2024 19:03 utc | 351

abierno@1846
Brought up the issue of security for the BRICS confab in Kazan. Thanks for fleshing it out with important particulars.

Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 19:04 utc | 352

Posted by: Menz | Oct 2 2024 11:29 utc | 78
The professor is excellent; Harris is a cunt.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 2 2024 19:04 utc | 353

aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 17:45 utc | 293–
Iran’s been launching their own suite of ISR satellites for the last several years, so they don’t need to rely on Russia or anyone else for such data, a fact even Ritter doesn’t remember.
Honzo | Oct 2 2024 17:58 utc | 299–
Thanks for your reply. Putin was impressed by the team he talked with that began with the woman. He visited that industrial park last year as it was being opened. The first two photos here from last years visit show the park’s model, which is quite impressive. I recall Silicon Valley’s build-out in the early 1970s which Russia is equally and will likely surpass since it’s a nationwide plan, not just for one region.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:05 utc | 354

@Republic of Scotland 338, 344
Fully correct. From what he writes, JackG would appear to be a right-wing An-Cap who fully supports the imperialist side especially when it comes to left-wing countries who do not bow down to US interests.
I was in Venezuela in 2009, and things were good there back then. The golden days of Venezuela. Under Chavez. Before the destabilizations got worse with the Guarimbas and other things such as attacks on the energy infrastructure. But for JackG only the socialist government is to blame for all the ills, without taking into regard the constant destabilization efforts of the US empire.

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 19:05 utc | 355

“… they area attack submunition designed to overwhelm the air defenses and also to deliver submunition fo destroy soft targets in a large area as planes in a big air base (F35, F15, F16, choppers, etc…)
The other tactic employed to defeat the child-murderers is the missile swarm formations, that difficult, to the radar and target aquisition system to priorize the target. …”
Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 16:42 utc | 244
“Thanks for the education.”
Posted by: JackG | Oct 2 2024 16:53 utc | 256
Indeed Jack. That was very enlightening. I was just wondering if they had some sort of long range cluster munitions to drop on all those tanks in the North. It sounds like the submunition is powerful enough to destroy a tank or troop carrier.
Me thinks Iran has more surprises as they have promised. They need nukes.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:07 utc | 356

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 18:30 utc | 323
You can certainly do it, provided that you detect the attacking rocket early and that the rocket doesn’t change course until interception.
Figure that.
Rocket is coming at you at 10000km/h.
You detect it at 500km from your launcher, this give your launcher 3 minutes to put the interceptor at the right height and distance.
The less the distance of detection the less the time your interceptor have to reach the point the attacking rocket will be in that time.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 19:08 utc | 357

….. Has anyone seen Israel’s fighter jets providing close air support? Helicopters or gunships ?…..
Lebanese claimed today to have chased off a bunch of gunships.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 19:10 utc | 358

Interception is a heuristic, not an algorithm.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:24 utc | 317
One wants a “mathematical model”, the other makes claims about heuristics not being algorithms. You two could either take a one week class in computer science, or simply refrain from yelling out loud all kinds of random things that pop into your mind.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 19:11 utc | 359

Vast mismatches (in speed for example) do not converge.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 18:54 utc | 343
That is not entirely true. Consider a missile flying in an unchanging direction, and a projectile that is slower. In order to have any possibility of intercepting the missile the projectile has to be in region that is cone shaped with the vertex at the missile and the base extending forward from it. This is because a projectile outside this cone it is too slow to catch he missile and will fail to intercept.
As the speed differential increases this cone narrows, but never disappears entirely. Obviously a missile that can change speed and direction complicates this and while interception may become unlikely is never entirely zero. This is also discounting the reality most AA missiles have an explosive charge and only need to be close.

Posted by: anonymous | Oct 2 2024 19:12 utc | 360

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 11:44 utc | 89
“they managed to inflict a good deal of death and destruction.” But insufficient, apparently.

Posted by: horseguards | Oct 2 2024 19:12 utc | 361

“The Iranian have been war gaming for this situation during many decades, and have many surprises left. The child murderers are not the only that can give surprises.”
Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 16:42 utc | 244
I’m wondering what kind of strategy they have for killing Subs. I am thinking that they have one. At least in the event that they would launch. To my knowledge it is still difficult to find a submarine.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:12 utc | 362

Up until now KSA was allowing Israeli sea traffic to use its ports and then move goods by truck. I assume that hasn’t changed? Why do I get the feeling the Arab elites in the ME are all on board with whatever the overall USA plan is and not just caught between a rock and a hard place? I actually hope it’s all fear and kompromat and not concealed enthusiasm, as the former no matter how bad isn’t completely without hope of a jailbreak.
I figure as the USA wants to destroy the status quo breaking everything into pieces, the vassal states want to make sure they’ll be getting a piece rather than be one of the pieces.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:14 utc | 363

A bit concerned about the aircraft carrier possibility of being targeted by the Iranians. Highly likely they would never do that against the current carrier in the Arabian Sea…the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
Please consider the symbological, psychological impact of sinking that iconic name.
If the Abraham Lincoln is indeed attacked or even sunk, we can rest assured that the strike was a FALSE FLAG operation, carefully concocted to squeeze the lemon of popular sentiment extremely hard. All those flag-waving Born Agains and other deracinated, miseducated and terminally deluded fools would rise up as one to demand the nuking of Iran.
Posted by: aristodemos | Oct 2 2024 17:41 utc | 290
You’ve gone from being Western-centric to being “Western, bleeding heart, ignorant piss liberal petty-bourg-centric.”

Posted by: Tichy | Oct 2 2024 19:15 utc | 364

They need nukes.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:07 utc | 355

Technical Note: Iran’s Recent Increase in Enrichment Capacity at the Fordow Enrichment Plant
June 19, 2024
Iran notified the IAEA recently that it would install eight cascades each containing 174 IR-6 centrifuges, about 1400 in total, at the underground Fordow Enrichment Plant over the next 3-4 weeks.1 Iran’s installation of eight more IR-6 cascades in Fordow represents a dramatic increase in Fordow’s total enrichment capacity, an increase of about 3.6 times more capacity. In May 2024, Fordow had six low-output IR-1 cascades and two IR-6 cascades; soon it will have 10 IR-6 cascades and six IR-1 cascades.
Considering the likely case where Iran installs eight more IR-6 cascades at Fordow in the next several weeks, and noting it already has two IR-6 cascades at Fordow, breakout could occur rapidly, once the Iranian regime decides to do so. First, by further enriching its 60 percent enriched uranium stock in its possession as of May 11, 2024, Iran could produce 92 kg of weapon-grade uranium (WGU) in one-third of a month after commencing breakout. Next, by further enriching its stock of 20 percent enriched uranium as of May 11, 2024 in these same 10 cascades, Iran could produce 135 kg of WGU during the following two months. These estimates assume that the IR-6 cascades will perform well.
continues ==> https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/mobile/technical-note-irans-recent-increase-in-enrichment-capacity-at-fordow

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 19:16 utc | 365

ET AL
You do not need interception at a specific point.
Use an High Explosive Air Bursting (HEAB)
Firing Modes
Airburst (In front of or over aiming point)
Point Detonation
Point Detonation Delay
Window (Beyond aiming point)
Or use radar (land or air based) detonated control for maximum effect.

Posted by: Jerr | Oct 2 2024 19:18 utc | 366

“or simply refrain from yelling out loud all kinds of random things that pop into your mind.”
Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 19:11 utc | 358
I posted that on X. Wisdom. 😉

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:18 utc | 367

Zargo | Oct 2 2024 12:53 utc | 113
*** The muliti-polar world is proving to be a horrible reality for the peoples of the planet ***
Not to be confused with the unipolar monopoly-capitalist world which merely killed, maimed, surveillance-Stated, brainwashed, shunted, terrorised, exploited and enslaved countless millions.
Nice for neocon / neoliberal Overlords, Oligarchs + depraved servants, though.

Posted by: Cynic | Oct 2 2024 19:18 utc | 368

This standing armrest warrior is impatient for picture of the damage done to the various targets.
I find Reuters current posting somewhat humorous
Biden does not support attack on Iran’s nuclear sites
The next point of escalation comes when Biden bombs anything in Iran.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 2 2024 19:22 utc | 369

Man bildet aus der dreidimensionalen Pythagorasformel die Abstandsfunktion von zeitabhängiger Ortsfunktion der angreifenden Rakete und der zeitabhängigen Ortsfunktion der abfangenden Rakete. Für die Koordinaten in der Ortsfunktion der abfangenden Rakete wird x(t) = v*t genommen, wobei v die Komponente der Maximalgeschwindigkeit der Abfangrakete in x-Richtung ist. Für y und z ebenfalls.Diese Komponente wird trigonometrisch bestimmt. Sie ist also winkelabhängig. Die Abstandsfunktion muss dann für plausible Zeiten Null werden, damit es klappen kann. Da die Maximalgeschwindigkeit eine Konstante ist, kann man die Abstandsfuktion nach dem Startwinkel auflösen und weiß dann, in welche Richtung man den Abfänger losschicken muss. Die Lösung ist dann ein Tripel: (alpha, beta, t) (2 Winkel und Zeit).

Posted by: Frillo | Oct 2 2024 19:23 utc | 370

Or use radar (land or air based) detonated control for maximum effect.
Posted by: Jerr | Oct 2 2024 19:18 utc | 365
I think you would still have to saturate the cone of trajectory. It sounds like you’d have to intercept them before the missile separated into submunitions. Under the right conditions lasers might work. To my knowledge I don’t think any country can take down a mach 20 missile like this.
What I wanted to ask if the S500 can take down hypersonic warheads like this?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:24 utc | 371

HB_Norica | Oct 2 2024 18:50 utc | 339–
The A-4 was the first ballistic missile in 1942, and it became the V-2.
I see we have another flea who’s extremely ignorant of Soviet/Russian intervention of behalf of Arabs. Russia has provided Iran with its Murmansk EW system, S-400 SAMs, and Su-35 jets amongst many other weapons. The coming strategic treaty between Russia and Iran will be similar to the Russia/China agreement, not like the one with the DPRK which is a military alliance treaty.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:25 utc | 372

I’m guessing Israel has some subs, but it’s someting you never hear about. Anyone know how many, what kind, big, small, attack, missile? Are they hiding in the Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf close to Iran? Or, do they rely solely on the US Navy for this?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:25 utc | 373

Apparently Iran has nukes – but keeps it quiet.
https://x.com/Currentreport1/status/1819777476224008338

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 19:26 utc | 374

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 16:09 utc | 223
Absolutely. And let’s recall that the single woman who won the Fields prize (Nobel for math) was Iranian.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 2 2024 19:27 utc | 375

Tom_Q_Collins @176: “Trump fanbois are…”
If one’s first reaction upon hearing or seeing Trump’s name is to lash out, then with absolute certainty one has “Trump Derangement Syndrome”.
It is like alcoholism. The first step to recovery is to acknowledge you have a problem. TDS is a real illness, even if not yet listed in the DSM-5. Indeed, it probably will not be listed in the DSM-6 either because most clinical psychologists/psychiatrists are themselves TDS victims and can be expected to oppose inclusion with the same manic venom that they react to Trump with. They say hysteria and panic at any reference to Trump is justified because of such delusional nonsense as “He does admire and praise Putin”, indicating that they themselves have suffered dissociation from reality despite their clinical training.
Unfortunately, a proper academic analysis of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” will only be possible with sufficient distance from the social milieu that gave rise to it, as is the case with all other instances of mass hysteria in human history (ex: witch hunts).
In any case, as a step towards recovery, I would recommend avoiding any and all discussions concerning Trump, and refrain from making assumptions about those you delusionally perceive as “Trump fanbois”. Instead, go outside and touch grass and take a deep breath, or go to your “safe space” with some hot cocoa, and recenter yourself in a happy frame of mind. Going unhinged at the mention of Trump doesn’t have to be an end to one’s ability to be rational as the trigger is so specific. Just avoid the conditions that trigger the internal fugue state and you should be able to lead an otherwise normal life. Even those in prior instances of mass hysteria who swore they were cursed by witches could function normally when distracted from the topic of witches, so it is possible for TDS victims to likewise appear and behave sane.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 2 2024 19:27 utc | 376

LightYearsFromHome (372).
Israel has I think six subs built by Germany – they are nuclear capable.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-submarines-will-have-second-strike-nuclear-capability/#:~:text=Israel%20has%20three%20Dolphin-class%20submarines,%20acquired%20from%20Germany,%20currently%20in

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 19:29 utc | 377

truth.
see video:
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1841546533256237257
Sarah Wilkinson @swilkinsonbc
Professor @s_m_marandi says the Western media’s downplay of the impact of the Iranian attack is proof the israeli regime ‘was hit very hard’
= AND –
why oh why do ‘they’ hate us?
imperialism, and neo-colonialism, and terrorist attacks by israel such as this are good reasons why
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1841494017889997106
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
The Zionist regime carried out an airstrike on a residential building
west of the Syrian capital, Damascus.
Why are Erdogan, Al-Qaeda, Israel, ISIS, the EU, and the US always on the same side when it comes to Syria?
Strange coincidence.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 19:30 utc | 378

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:25 utc | 372
The zionists have quite a few Dolphin class submarines which were built in Germany at very high discounts. These (their torpedo shafts) have been enlarged to allow cruise missiles fitted with nukes.

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 19:30 utc | 379

Here is a typical example of Western psyops delivered, of course, by Reuters, the biggest purveyor of Western (British) lies and disinformation.
I just read it on MEE:
Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah to flee Lebanon for Iran days before he was assassinated by Israel, Reuters reported.
The warning came as a result of Iranian intelligence which detected an Israeli plan to kill Nasrallah, using spies inside Hezbollah.
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps commander, Brigadier General Abbas Nilforousha, was the messenger Khamenei sent to warn Nasrallah, according to Reuters. He was killed in the same strike.
Khamenei now believes Israel has infiltrated the Islamic government’s senior ranks.(end)
See how Reuters (UK/British intelligence) wants you to believe that they are omnipresent and know everything, even, or especially, what Iran’s Supreme Leader does and believes.
Sadly, some will take this seriously, also among the more reputable analysts, and build on it.
Just like the fairy tale that an Iranian (accent is on Iranian) traveled to Beirut to shake hands with Nasrallah only to leave an invisible film on his palm, and that is how the Zionists traced Nasrallah and
killed him.
Same as the five guys and a gal rented a yacht, sailed off to blow up the NS pipe line, returned safely – and live happily ever after.

Posted by: JB | Oct 2 2024 19:31 utc | 380

Israel Submarine Capabilities | NTI |
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/israel-submarine-capabilities/
There is consistent speculation that Israel’s submarines have been refitted to carry missiles armed with nuclear weapons for the country to maintain a survivable second-strike option. The German government has refused to comment on modifying the Dolphin-class submarines delivered to Israel to fit cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads.6 However, German officials such as former Head of the Policy Planning Staff of the German Ministry of Defense Hans Rühle, have stated that they assumed Israel intended to equip the submarines with nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Oui | Oct 2 2024 19:33 utc | 381

Thank you Frillo 🏆
Now I triple dog dare you bickering interceptor Barflies to outdo Frillo. 🤣

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 19:34 utc | 382

Republicofscotland |@ 373
This is from that Twitter link:
BREAKING:
Iran has publicly announced for the first time that it has nuclear weapons. Iranian Politician Ahmed Ardestani: “We have obtained nuclear weapons, but we do not announce it.”

My sentiments are clear, I believe they have nukes, but the above statement is ClownWorld idiocy worthy of Annalena Baerbock. All God’s creatures including the mullahs and generals have a little bit of clown in them, but that statement is just nonsense on Twitter.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:36 utc | 383

@ Jerr | 365
You do not need interception at a specific point.
———————
What if a nation blows itself up before enemy missiles can; does it win? Good point!
Also, I see an eBay listing for an Iron Dome: lightly used, was running when put in covered storage, still in warranty,…
A main point I take from the attack is the myth of the Iron Dome of invulnerability is done. This myth allowed for people to presume to escape responsibility for their terrible actions.
The again demonstrated failure of anti-missile defense changes everything – I hope.

Posted by: Nomnom | Oct 2 2024 19:40 utc | 384

Various helo carriers, and destroyers are on station however near Cyprus. Even if they would be I would imagine that they would not be any closer to the war zone than a station far to the west of Cyprus………..do not tempt fate…….fate is a lonely hunter…hypersonic missiles are a huge threat.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 2 2024 18:38 utc | 329
My wife and I, have been members of two different groups of English people, who organise “Rock Holidays”..not just in the UK, but also across Spain, Catalonia, Rhodes and Cyprus… If I was A1 (recovering from Sepsis and Disgusted by Morons trying to kill everyone)
We would be at Cyprus Rocks now
She said, no reports of bombs landing in Cyprus yet – but I am sure our friends can see The Flashes in The Sky
Some of The Bands are Really Good

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Oct 2 2024 19:42 utc | 385

Just looked up the speed of the Iron dome interceptor. At 2.2, slow as an old granny crossing the road.
Anyway, gives something to judge the speed of the Iranian missiles.
Proximity fused – likely set for Hezbollah unguided rockets that are likely a similar speed to the ID interceptor. Even without the target maneuvering, it would likely detonate too late to be effective against a high speed target.
The Russians generally give a maximum target velocity for their systems, but that sort of info is hard to find for the US systems.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 19:43 utc | 386

Now I triple dog dare you bickering interceptor Barflies to outdo Frillo. 🤣
Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 19:34 utc | 381
Mpppph. First you have to acquire it, then you have to track it, then you have to predict where it is going to be, then you have to fire off a maneuverable rocket to get to that point in time, then you have to reverse-mimic any “jinks” the incoming makes and hope you are not too late …
That last part is definitely going to be heuristic.
And the faster it is going, the less you and it can maneuver (lots of kinetic mass).
“There is no closed form solution.”

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 2 2024 19:43 utc | 387

Posted by: Inka | Oct 2 2024 16:23 utc | 228
++++++++++++
Reuters is controlled by Zionists

Posted by: AI | Oct 2 2024 19:44 utc | 388

I believe they have nukes, but the above statement is ClownWorld idiocy
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:36 utc | 382

Ayatollah Khamenei will lead this week’s Friday prayers for the first time since the murder of Iranian IRGC Quds Force Commander Qassem Soleimani.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 19:45 utc | 389

BREAKING:
Iran has publicly announced for the first time that it has nuclear weapons. Iranian Politician Ahmed Ardestani: “We have obtained nuclear weapons, but we do not announce it.”
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 2 2024 19:36 utc | 382
This can not be true.
It comes from twitter/x and is spreading like wildfire on instagram. And at this moment in time. Qui bono?

Posted by: JB | Oct 2 2024 19:46 utc | 390

Martyanov has a new video dedicated to Israel/US AD and SEAD maths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffF0bLQs0qY

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 2 2024 19:47 utc | 391

Posted by: Frillo | Oct 2 2024 19:23 utc | 369
Das ist korrekt…Jetzt musst Du noch im Falle einer Rakete ab Mach 9 den Plasma-Schild, der sich um Dieselbe bildet, berücksichtigen und die Kraft, die es bräuchte, Denselben zu durchdringen etc. etc. … Wenn man mir den ersten bestätigten, verifizierbaren Abschuss einer Ch-47M2 oder besser einer 3M22 zeigt, nehme ich auch mal wieder eine Woche Informatik-Unterricht…

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 19:49 utc | 392

I’m wondering what kind of strategy they have for killing Subs. I am thinking that they have one. At least in the event that they would launch. To my knowledge it is still difficult to find a submarine.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 2 2024 19:12 utc | 361
What you mean? nuke armed subs? Are they going to nuke Iran? And then they thing the Occupied Palestine will survive a nuclear attack on Iran much time? Are they going to exterminate the Iranians to prevent the build and hit Occupied Palestine with nukes? Are the sttlers and the child-murderers so crazy to ask for their own destruction?
If the subs are armed with conventional warheads it will a drop in a lake, the same thing if the US NAvy send all their subs with conventional missiles (Tomahawks) to attack Iran, they will do NOTHING to stop thousands of missiles landing in Occupied Palestine and in all american bases in the ME, with thousands of american deaths.
Iran will remain in the Persian Gulf FOREVER, and the US is many thousands miles away, at the end they will retreate completely from the region.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 2 2024 19:50 utc | 393

psychohistorian | Oct 2 2024 19:22 utc | 368–
After watching Escobar’s chat with Judge Napolitano, I viewed his chat with Ritter; both were informative. Both were done yesterday. What was very clear from the videos is very few Iranian missiles were intercepted, and the hypersonics were easily seen. It must be noted that Russia is the only nation with the ability to intercept hypersonic missiles, although I suspect since China and Iran have them, they can figure out how that’s done too. The result is the West plus the Zionists are defenseless against hypersonics. How many such missiles does Iran have, and how many conventional ballistic missiles does it have to saturate the AD systems? And in a massive counter-strike, I’d expect Iran to launch drones so they’d arrive well after the main assault to inflict their own damage since more AD will be dead or out of ammo. Plus, it was also reported that Iran targeted Zionist radar facilities. Iranian ISR will also have seen where the new AD emplacements are. Any Zionist attack on Iran with aircraft from Occupied Palestine would need to be refueled by NATO tankers making them attackers and targets, too.
So, as Ritter concluded, both the Zionists and Outlaws need to think hard about a retaliatory strike, for Iran will surely strike again and much harder.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:50 utc | 394

“The coming strategic treaty between Russia and Iran will be similar to the Russia/China agreement, not like the one with the DPRK which is a military alliance treaty”.
Speaking of ignorant flees:
“In the 1950s, the Soviet Union became allies with Egypt and Syria due to the “Anglo-French debacle at Suez, the Arab–Israeli conflict, and the use of the Soviet rouble.” Later Egypt and Syria developed a defense treaty, in which if one of them declared war on Israel the other would get involved”. Wikipedia
Those who actually know our History and dont just pretend know also that not only Russia but even more the USSR had defense treaties with a number of nations and that they respected them…to a limit, always providing those nations weapons and military assistance, even sending pilots or military advisers, but never ever crossing the red line that would take Moscow into direct confrontation with the U.S. The most vivid example was given during the Yom Kippur war of 73 when after suffering serious losses at the beginning Israel turned the tables on Egyot and isolated the force that had taken the Sinai and Egyot was about to suffer a catastrophic defeat and Moscow decided to send its own military to the rescue to which Nixon inmediately answered putting US military forces in state of nuclear alert, which meant he was preparing to a nuclear attack in that case, Of course the USSR stopped the move and Egyot had to swallow the bitter defeat. That is how things happen in the real world. Ivan wasnt and isnt ready to fry and end the world for the pretty eyes of the Arabs.
Point is, some of us know our History and some others dont. And these ones should stop pretending they know it.

Posted by: Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 19:52 utc | 395

Israeli fighter aircraft can bomb Lebanon and Iranian targets but will have nowhere to land once Iran takes out their Israeli landing strips with missiles. All of which suggests that the Israeli leadership is relying on an overwhelming US use of ballistic missiles against Iran. None of this is going to be tit for tat but full on US assault upon Iran.

Posted by: Fred | Oct 2 2024 19:58 utc | 396

Gatobart | Oct 2 2024 19:52 utc | 394–
Soviet pilots fought against the Outlaw US Empire in Korea and Vietnam and against the Zionists in 1967 and 1973.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:58 utc | 397

“My sentiments are clear, I believe they have nukes”
LightYearsFromHome (382).
If you hold to your statement above – then it doesn’t really matter what the X posts say about Iran having nukes.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 19:58 utc | 398

Biden does not support attack on Iran’s nuclear sites…
Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 2 2024 19:22 utc | 368
so he ‘says’.
but he’ll look the other way when israel does it
& that would be a really, really big ‘escalation to de-escalate’.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 2 2024 19:59 utc | 399

Fred | Oct 2 2024 19:58 utc | 395–
To reach Iran, Zionist jest will need to be refueled.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 19:59 utc | 400