Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 2, 2024
Iran Attacked Israel Only After U.S. Rejected Its Moderate Stance

Yesterday a massive barrage of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel. It came after months of serious Iranian efforts (vid) to achieve better relations with the U.S. had failed. Israel had managed to sabotage those efforts to the detriment of its U.S. ally.

To understand what has happened – and, more importantly, why this attack was launched today – we need to look back.

On May 20 2024 then President of Iran, Ebrahim Raisi, died in a helicopter accident.

New elections were held in Iran and, to the astonishment of many, Masoud Pezeshkian, a moderate, won with a decent majority. Pezeshkian is a specialist in cardiac surgery with no experience in foreign policy. He had campaigned on reconnecting with the 'West', the lifting of sanctions on Iran and a generally more liberal policy.

On July 30:

Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was assassinated along with his personal bodyguard in the Iranian capital Tehran by an apparent Israeli attack. Haniyeh was killed in his accommodation in a military-run guesthouse after attending the inauguration ceremony for Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian.

The assassination of Haniyeh was a major offense against the sovereignty of the the Islamic Republic of Iran. It also was a personal offense against Masoud Pezeshkian's presidency.

The Supreme Leader of Iran Ayatollah Khomeini and the leadership of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC) wooed to retaliate for the strike. But the new president still argued to not retaliate but to seek accommodation through negotiations. He, at that time, still hoped that the U.S. would arrange for a ceasefire in Gaza and wanted to avoid that Iran would be blamed for a failure of those negotiations.

President Pezeshkian continued his moderate course. On September 23, during a his participation in the UN General Assembly in New York, he again put out feelers towards a new accommodation with the U.S. over Iran's nuclear program:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Monday emphasized his openness to a new international agreement over his country’s nuclear program — a subject that has fueled global tensions for years, risking potentially catastrophic warfare between Iran and the U.S.

Asked about restoring nuclear negotiations, Pezeshkian said through a translator: “I do hope we can … reach an agreement.”

He said Iran upheld its end of the nuclear deal unlike the U.S. — an assessment most outside experts share, though there are some long-standing concerns about Iranian compliance — and pointed to American diplomats saying time and again that a cease-fire deal in Gaza that can boost stability across the Middle East is just a week away.

Within Iran the moderated course was seen with suspicion:

The lack of trust specifically affects the calculus of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, he continued, in a tacit acknowledgment that the unelected Khamenei has the final say on Iran’s policies.

“His Eminence says, ’They say one thing, do another,” Pezeshkian said. The president promoted engagement with the outside world as he sought votes from Iranians, noting that easing sanctions could boost the economy amid popular unrest in the country, and in August, Khamenei gave him a cautious green light to bargain with the U.S. Another power center in the country — the elite Revolutionary Guard — is extremely leery of such talks.

Four days later Israeli air-strikes killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hizbullah and a major architect of the Iran led Axis of Resistance. Several other Hizbullah leaders as well as the deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), General Abbas Nilforoushan, were also killed in the strike.

Pezeshkian noted rather bitterly that the order by the Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahoo to kill Nasrallah had been given from New York:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the international community will not forget that the order for Israel’s terrorist act to assassinate Secretary General of the Lebanese Hezbollah resistance movement Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah was issued from New York.

In a message of condolences on Saturday, Pezeshkian said the United States cannot absolve itself of complicity with the Zionists in the terror attack against the Hezbollah chief.

The assassination of Nasrallah demonstrated that Pezeshkian's politics of moderation had failed.

After arriving back in Tehran Pezeshkian's tone had changed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the world should know that the blood of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah and his companions will continue to boil and turn into a bulwark against tyranny and oppression.

Addressing a cabinet session on Sunday, Pezeshkian said it is imperative for Tehran to give a “decisive” response to the criminal Israeli regime.

Iran's plans for retaliating against Israel required coordination with its allies. On Monday, September 30, Russia's Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin happened to be in Tehran for long planned talks about economic cooperation:

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says the implementation of critical projects between Iran and Russia will produce a huge capacity to counter cruel Western sanctions against the two countries.

in his remarks, the Iranian president warned that Israel is intensifying tensions with the direct support of the United States in order to prepare the ground for increasing the presence of the United States in the region.

This poses a “common threat to the interests of the regional countries and nations," he said.

The Russian premier expressed concern over the escalation of tensions in the region and said the US supports mounting conflicts in different parts of the world with the purpose of securing its own interests.

Therefore, he emphasized, independent countries like Iran and Russia, should accelerate cooperation to counter such measures.

Moscow was thereby likely informed of upcoming strikes against Israel. China was likewise assured and informed:

President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran says the traditional friendship between the Iranian and Chinese nations has evolved into “deep, stable, and strategic” relations.

“I express my desire to work alongside Your Excellency to further develop comprehensive relations between Iran and China,” President Pezeshkian stated in his message to President Xi Jinping, written on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).

A few hours later, after Mishustin had left, Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps launched a volley of some 250 ballistic missiles towards Israel:

Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces:

Among our targets were Israel’s 3 main airbases, Mossad’s terror HQ, Radar sites, and gathering sites of armoured vehicles around the Gaza Strip, responsible for the genocide in Gaza.

Israel's 'Iron Dome' missile defense was unable to interdict a significant number of Iran's missiles.

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai – 17:06 UTC · Oct 1, 2024

Over 250 Iranian ballistic hit #Israel. Many buildings in Israel are damaged. The possibility of a regional war is growing. Israelis expected to retaliate and Iran will retaliate to the retaliation. …

Verified videos show dozens of impacts of Iranian missiles against targets in Israel. Several strikes hit near the Mossad headquarter in Tel Aviv. Allegedly a gas platform of the coast of Ashkelon was also hit. Video shows that it is engulfed in fire.

Other targets were likewise destroyed:

A massive Iranian ballistic missile strike on targets in Israel launched on October 1 has targeted Nevatim Air Base, among other key targets in the country. The facility hosts both of the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 fifth generation fighter squadrons, and was previously intended to host a third squadron of the fighters after they were delivered. Iranian media sources have reported that the facility was “completely destroyed” in the attack. Footage from Israel has confirmed the impact of dozens of ballistic missiles which Israel’s air defence network failed to shoot down, with targets impacted including the headquarters of the intelligence agency Mossad, located in Tel Aviv which was levelled by the attack.

Remarkably there are no reports of any civilian casualties.

Israel and Iran have now issued threats and counter-threats of further escalation.

But most importantly will be the stand the U.S. government is going to take.

Joining Israel an open war against Iran, which Netanyahoo has wanted to achieve for some time, would bog down the U.S. in another unwinnable war in the Middle East that would hurt its interests for years to come.

It would give time to China and Russia to expand their multilateral coalition to the further detriment of U.S. supremacy.

Comments

…mainly israhell will be leveled up to the ground
Posted by: Boo | Oct 2 2024 12:19 utc | 98
I have a hunch that neither NetaHyenaHu nor his gang, not even the invisible pupetter hand above him, feel anything for the people temporarily dwelling inside the Zionist Entity territory.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Oct 2 2024 12:27 utc | 101

Kevork Almassian🇸🇾🇦🇲
@KevorkAlmassian
Sky News reporter @markaustintv
tells @s_m_marandi
that Iran’s retaliatory attack against Israel “failed” and “very few of the missiles got through” the iron dome.

https://x.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1841415735102316931
Others have mentioned this but I just watched part of the interview. Very interesting because the Sky news reporter gives Marandi then politely allows Marandi to say his piece. A little more here than meets the eye I think.
More along the line of the Brits being pissed with the Americans for dumping the war against Russia. For the Brit elite, everything else is secondary to Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 12:29 utc | 102

Is it my imagination or does our usual troll contingent seem a bit glum tonight?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 2 2024 12:34 utc | 103

If Trump (the legitimate president of the U.S) was still in charge this war never would have happened. Neither would the war in Ukraine. The military industrial complex got away with rigging 2020 and they will try this election too if they don’t succeed in murdering our real president Donald Trump.

Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 2 2024 12:36 utc | 104

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/iran-end-israel-invasion-lebanon
What is the truth here? Are there any satellite photos? Even cell phone stuff of airbases? At best, I can only speculate if Israel goes oddly slack in reponse.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 12:38 utc | 105

You can thank Obama for Iran’s nuclear weapons capability.

Posted by: fortuna | Oct 2 2024 12:38 utc | 106

But the narrative has been flowing, like copious BS in the U.S. is the following …
‘Iran attacked because Biden showed weakness by lifting sanctions’
100% lie. Biden has not removed any sanctions and he even seized a cargo of Iranian oil in transit to China.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Oct 2 2024 12:42 utc | 107

Look at it this way: It’s better to be a rug merchant than a birthright swindler.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 12:24 utc | 101
Apparently they’ve upgraded from rug merchants to drone merchants lately.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 2 2024 12:44 utc | 108

our real president Donald Trump.
Posted by: Fortuna | Oct 2 2024 12:36 utc | 105
Yawn. He’s your “real president” all right, for good reason, but anybody not evil believing in Trump should watch a bit of Ole Dammegård.
https://tube.kansanvalta.org/w/hkFj4fUiCH9WzRNzLTTKSM
War and genocide will happen no matter whether it’s trump, the gimp with the golden name, warface carlson, the fat shitpile alex jones or any other controlled opposition playing president. Of course the elections were rigged. Why would the evil obama bin biden crew want to give all that power, money and epstein rape rights to a different criminal? Hm?
Now if you have a civil war and kill the zios and their supporters, then you can have a good president.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 12:46 utc | 109

Now if you have a civil war and kill the zios and their supporters, then you can have a good president.
Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 12:46 utc | 110

There has never been a happy purge.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 12:49 utc | 110

Posted by: OldFart | Oct 2 2024 11:07 utc | 65
Thank you.
I think your comment is more pertinent than many realize, to our collective misfortune.

Posted by: Andaréapie | Oct 2 2024 12:50 utc | 111

The multi-polar world of the future is here. Brutual wars in
Sudan and the sub-Sahara millions displaced, starving and no peace in sight.
From Gaza to Lebanon millions displaced and no peace in sight.
From Ukraine through Russia millions of refugees fleeing war zones with no pursue in sight.
The magic of multi-polarity began its march into Asia with the reduction of woman to chattel in Afghanistan and prepares to spread as Israel prepares to wreak havoc in Iran while China and the Philippines play chicken in the South China Sea.
While in South America Venezuela prepares to advance the multi-polar world by claiming huge parts of its neighbor, (how long before it decides to reincorporate Panama?).
The muliti-polar world is proving to be a horrible reality for the peoples of the planet—

Posted by: Zargo | Oct 2 2024 12:53 utc | 112

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 2 2024 8:51 utc | 17
Tell that to the poor sod walking across a street that got squished by a shot down rocket over Jordan. The wannabe king has no problem killing his own people if it save a few zionists

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 2 2024 12:56 utc | 113

fortuna | Oct 2 2024 12:38 utc | 107
How stupid are you to think that only you will ever own a hammer.

Posted by: ZimZum | Oct 2 2024 13:00 utc | 114

Oh Fortuna, you realize delusion isn’t what happens when it rains.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 2 2024 13:02 utc | 115

Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 12:14 utc | 97
Israeli media
Iran did not hit any of the airbases ‘critical infrastructure’, but they hit the administrative buildings and the maintenance hangars with pinpoint accuracy, showing us that they could have hit critical points if they wanted to’ – Channel 12
The IDF admits that several regular military bases were also struck by Iranian missiles in yesterday’s attack – Channel 13
IRGC Warned the United Divided States:
“If you attack our refineries, we will set ablaze the refineries and oil wells throughout the region, including those in Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Kuwait, the UAE, and Bahrain!” They also state no fuel for Europe coming winter.that might pull some heads in …. or not

Posted by: Hankster | Oct 2 2024 13:02 utc | 116

So, Israel is going to retaliate against Iranian nuclear and oil. While Dimona sits right out in the open with a proven inability to deter missile attack. That seems like a checkmate to me.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Oct 2 2024 13:02 utc | 117

Dear b, excellent reporting, also commenters providing links to videos of arrivals in the racist jewish state, thanks.

But most importantly will be the stand the U.S. government is going to take.

Most likely, the USA will just provide more taxpayer money and weapons and let the jews do what they can. But clearly, rich jews in America are now frenetically calling their clients in DC demanding American blood as well, but me thinks not gonna work, not before the show of electioneering is completed.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 2 2024 13:02 utc | 118

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 12:29 utc | 103
“More along the line of the Brits being pissed with the Americans for dumping the war against Russia. For the Brit elite, everything else is secondary to Russia.”
I reckon you are 100% correct on this. I just posted something similar on the Ukraine thread.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Oct 2 2024 13:03 utc | 119

Tight Ambush – Hezbollah Repels Israeli Infiltration Attempt, Shells Galilee Areas
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/tight-ambush-hezbollah-repels-israeli-infiltration-attempt-shells-galilee-areas/#
Comment – The IDF fighters didn’t even make it past the border. Lots of details plus listing of morning strikes etc

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 13:03 utc | 120

Israel tries very hard to keep information away from the public. Still, one gets the occasional items that can be pieced together. The following little bits may mean nothing, or maybe they indicate that things are not going the way Israel wants.
1. Israel is looking for medical volunteers. From last night, after the Iran missile attack: ISRAEL HAYOM (this is an Israeli newspaper): Ben Gvir orders the immediate deployment of 13,000 volunteers in emergency rooms. 
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/live-blog-hezbollah-strikes-northern-israel-tel-aviv-says-invasion-began-gaza-resistance-carries-out-complex-ambush-day-361/
2. IDF is recruiting so many Israelis that some of the RR stations have to be closed due to lack of personnel.
Israel Railways decides to close some of its stations at the end of this month due to the intensive recruitment of security personnel.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
3. Hebrew Media: ‘Israel may take a while to respond to Iran, or may decide that now is not the time, especially because its allies do not have appetite for war’
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
4. IDF met up with Hezbollah ground troops this morning. It did not go well for Israel.
“At the moment there are around 20 ambulances waiting in the north of Israel to receive soldiers that are being evacuated from the Lebanese border area by helicopter. Other than that, it isn’t clear.
“We know that in the morning there were various rocket barrages on that area from Lebanon. This is the border area where you have that build-up of Israeli troops.
“We also have two confirmed statements. One by the Israeli military saying there were intense clashes at the border between Israel soldiers and Hezbollah forces. That has also been confirmed by Hezbollah. So this seems like the first face-to-face incident since the launch of the ground operation.[…]” – Al Jazeera live-feed
And on the same incident as above:
During the Radwan forces ambush in Maroun al-Ras, more than 35 soldiers were injured to varying degrees. This is in addition to the killing of two soldiers in the same ambush.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 13:04 utc | 121

While in South America Venezuela prepares to advance the multi-polar world by claiming huge parts of its neighbor, (how long before it decides to reincorporate Panama?).
The muliti-polar world is proving to be a horrible reality for the peoples of the planet—
Posted by: Zargo | Oct 2 2024 12:53 utc | 113
Only people completely ignorant of geography could make such a claim. Just how do you imagine Venezuela “reincorporating Panama”? By first “reincorporating” Colombia?
As for Guyana, blame the Brits for the impasse, not Venezuela. Venezuela is only claiming what is rightfully theirs.

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:05 utc | 122

A sure sign the world is dealing with a madman – a madman that the West is backing – a mad man that’s committing genocide – and the West is backing that genocide.
Netanyahu in a cabinet meeting last night said – I call upon the forces of light in the world to stand by Israel and unite against Iran.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 2 2024 13:08 utc | 123

Jure, of course students of history will remember that Columbia and Panama were all part of Venezuela before the US carved it up to create the Panama canal. That canal is old, China is looking to replace it.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 2 2024 13:11 utc | 124

well it was all part of Gran Colombia to be precise. I was merely referring to the illogical claim of Venezuela of today “reincorporating” Panama.

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:13 utc | 125

At the moment there are around 20 ambulances waiting in the north of Israel to receive soldiers that are being evacuated from the Lebanese border area by helicopter.
Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 13:04 utc | 122
The israelis who bomb everyone else’s ambulances first, even the ones that aren’t anywhere near military activity. The most coddled pieces of shit in the world. I hope satan heard their braying and warmed the fire lake real good.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 13:15 utc | 126

I think that the fact that the West is going to great lengths to cover up the damage done by yesterday’s strikes on Israel is a sign that they are not ready/willing/able to go to war with Iran.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 2 2024 13:16 utc | 127

reply to 122
Thanks for your post. It is suggestive of Israel lying or downplaying the attack.

Posted by: Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 13:17 utc | 128

@ Scottindallas | Oct 2 2024 13:11 utc | 125
Well, yes and no. Gran Colombia (which included Venezuela, Panama, and Ecuador) dissolved in 1831, long before there was serious thought of a canal, and apparently not due to any significant US interference.
However, the USA did foment a separatist movement in what is now Panama in order to break it off from Colombia, which wouldn’t allow the USA to build a canal on terms the USA wished to dictate.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:20 utc | 129

well it was all part of Gran Colombia to be precise. I was merely referring to the illogical claim of Venezuela of today “reincorporating” Panama.
Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:13 utc | 126
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Not Panama but Guyana.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:21 utc | 130

From Live Feed:
AL-MAYADEEN: Magen David Adom asks Israelis to donate blood due to a severe shortage of blood units in Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 13:22 utc | 131

teri | Oct 2 2024 13:04 utc | 122
It sounds like the announced Israeli special forces cross border raids were ambushed, shortly after, or while crossing the border.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 2 2024 13:22 utc | 132

I was reading yesterday that Iran had informed the US prior, which means Israel knew, and so was able to get its F35s off of the ground. Supposedly refuelling planes were in the air for support.
I don’t trust anyone to do what they say they will do.
Right now, I fully expect a Kabuki response from Israel, and then more big talk from all sides.
The invasion of Lebanon and genocide of Palestinians will continue unabated.
I don’t like it but I expect it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:22 utc | 133

Er exactly who are Iran’s Shiite allies? I guess Assad of Syria but he did not have technology to give Iran- other way around.
While there are Shia minorities in other countries only Iran and Syria have Shia leadership.
Posted by: watcher | Oct 2 2024 11:07 utc | 64
As a “watcher”, this poster does not notice Iraq and Yemen, and even Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan showed interesting signs of cooperating with Russia and Iran, so I think it closed its border for secret Israeli (and American?) activities. The signs I observed require to listen to Russian, the most objective is a project of a gas pipeline from Russia to Iranian Azerbaijan. Iraq now officially concluded agreement about withdrawal of American bases, so I do not think it allows to locate new stuff, anti-Iran air defenses.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2024 13:23 utc | 134

Not Panama but Guyana.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:21 utc | 131
yep, that is what I referred to in my comment 123. But since Zargo explicitly named Panama, I had to throw my question in the comment.

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:25 utc | 135

Not Panama but Guyana.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:21 utc | 131
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@ jure: Rereading the thread, I see that was your point. Apologies for the confusion!

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:25 utc | 136

@ jure: Rereading the thread, I see that was your point. Apologies for the confusion!
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:25 utc | 137
no problem

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:27 utc | 137

augusto @94: “…including tactical nukes.”
I have a lot of respect for Persian engineering prowess, and I have no doubt they could have viable nukes that fit their delivery systems within several days, a month tops, of when they launch a crash project to produce them. Tactical nukes are another matter. The fact is that tactical nukes are much harder to engineer than a more mundane city buster nuke. Strange but true, a tiny 0.3kt mini nuke is an engineering wonder compared with your typical H-bomb, and it is really almost impossible to get right without lots of tests, many of which will be failures. If Iran is going to build nukes that are reliable on their first use without tests, those nukes will be medium sized ones that are more than 100kt each.
Best off saving development of tactical nukes for when you have some experience with normal ones.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 2 2024 13:27 utc | 138

Re: De-Dollarization
10 year Treasury breaks 3.8%. Hmmm

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 13:28 utc | 139

… rich jews in America are now frenetically calling their clients in DC demanding American blood as well, but me thinks not gonna work, not before the show of electioneering is completed.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 2 2024 13:02 utc | 119
It increasingly looks that after initial tit-for-tat, Iran will have to attack American assets in the “unnamed” Gulf, on land and if possible, in water.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2024 13:31 utc | 140

This morning I overheard and listened to two minutes of NPR. You will be interested to learn the overwhelming majority of Iran’s missiles were shot down. A great many were intercepted by US destroyers stationed in the Red Sea, the Brits bagged quite a few as well. Iran’s missiles are cartoon missiles with beards and turbine. Official Reality is basically nothing happened.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 2 2024 13:31 utc | 141

Trump is a hardcore Zionist. He’s all in for American colonialism. He’s said so many times, “We should take the oil”.
Anyone thinking Trump would have prevented this misses how proud he was to send Javelins to Ukraine.
Trump is not a “good guy”. The guy who brought Juan Guaido to his State of the Union address to give legitimacy to a CIA puppet.
With Trump, its the familiar program of looting, murder, and degeneracy, dressed up with populist rhetoric.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 142

Re: De-Dollarization
10 year Treasury breaks 3.8%. Hmmm
Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 13:28 utc | 140
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Can’t imagine for the life of me who would want a 10-year T security. Six-monthers are reckless enough already…

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 143

I think Iran did strike a bunch of f35 flying turkeys. Hard to ‘hit back’ when a chunk of your expensive hangar queens got wasted.
Iran informed the US after the strike started. And f35s take a year to get ready for the air, like getting dressed for prom. Pretty sure they’re just so much US taxpayer provided scrap now.
This was almost certainly coordinated with their allies China and Russia.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 2 2024 13:36 utc | 144

Thanks to some barflies for attending to the skunks.
The simple ignorance of advanced science and tech in the various parts of the world is an obvious give away of the trolls.
One simply needs to look at say the number of STEM graduates in Iran…
There’s going to be some more hasbarat bs from the Illegal Apartheid Entity nests until they leap from that faster sinking shit ship and certainly a lot more of supremacist troll bots across the Western Collective paid to Narrate a Cope dirge.
No boots on the ground means no possible victory.
Any attempt to use nukes against civilians means instant death across the various hidey holes that the super rich ziofascist oligarch dynasties inhabit and dare I say a culling that they impose upon others to be visited upon their own families. Though I do not approve of any such acts even against children raised to be Nazis.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 2 2024 13:36 utc | 145

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2024 13:23 utc | 135
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American troops will leave Iraq the moment the complete JFK assassination files are released to the public.
Which will occur in approximately, never.
Until America abandons Israel, they will stay in West Asia via Iraq.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:36 utc | 146

200 missiles, gave fair warning, big mass murdering jets get to go to safety, what a fucking joke, be like getting your face within inches of Hannibal Lecter the feigning surprise when he bits your fucking nose off….that’s what appeasement and restraint gets. You can either do it or not …..looks like not. Sad
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 13:37 utc | 147

No one ever says what authoritative summaries “b” turns out.
Well I’m going to. Dead accurate and as ever gives us the essential framework. Thank you, “b”.

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 2 2024 13:38 utc | 148

“The israelis who bomb everyone else’s ambulances first…”
Posted by: Michael A | Oct 2 2024 13:15 utc | 127
Yup, and just to prove it isn’t a some aberrant practice that Israel only uses in Gaza, we have this from this morning:
In south Lebanon:
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A field source for Al-Akhbar: While the Islamic Health Authority paramedics were carrying out their duties in Adaisseh, they were subjected to an Israeli raid, which led to the martyrdom of six, the injury of several others, and the damage of two vehicles.
In Aitaroun, the authority’s clinic was subjected to an enemy raid, and when the paramedics arrived, they were subjected to a second raid, which left at least three martyrs.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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So Israel just murdered 9 paramedics, injured an unknown number and damaged two ambulances in Lebanon.

Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 13:40 utc | 149

The US and their massive propaganda machine is downplaying the strikes for a number of reasons one of which is despite their bellicosity they aren’t in a position to wage war on Iran right this minute. Also, they don’t want their restive population to get a whiff of how fucked the world will be..particularly Americans.. if the US attacks Iran. They know a war is hugely unpopular.
They want to pretend, as they did with Prosperity Guardian and Yemen, that the USreal has unreachable technological superiority when anyone with a brain paying attention knows that’s not the case. Where is the Eisenhower, anyway?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 2 2024 13:41 utc | 150

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 143
The only thing Trump has going for him after his disastrous first term is the degree
to which he drives the establishment apoplectic, he is the great middle finger vote for Americans and yes he is a (hidden jew) Zionist but everyone in US politics is a Zionist.

Posted by: qparker | Oct 2 2024 13:41 utc | 151

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 13:37 utc | 148

Careful, your propagandists slip is showing.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 2 2024 13:42 utc | 152

* Remember, it’s not the “West”: It’s the current rulers of the West, and not the people of the West. Not the same thing at all.
The people of the West would actually benefit from a smooth, gradual economic and political accommodation with the rest of the world.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 2 2024 10:30 utc | 47

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Good point and I agree. At least in the US the population is generally anti-war. I’ll raise you one though. The “West” no longer exists, except perhaps in Hungary. The West rests on four pillars: Christian Faith, Greek Realism, Roman Patriarchy, and Roman Rule by Law, none of which are features in what is correctly called The Former West.
Just today it was announced that the author C J Hopkins was found guilty of promoting Nazism in Germany, even though he is an anti-fascist. Everyone knows it was due to his opposition to COVID totalitarianism. So much for Rule by Law.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 2 2024 13:43 utc | 153

And f35s take a year to get ready for the air
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 2 2024 13:36 utc | 145

I’d really like to know how long it takes the F35 avionics to boot up. That has to be an embarrassing closely guarded secret.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 13:46 utc | 154

I forgot to add the other reson for downplaying impact and hiding information is the Israeli psyche is incredibly delicate. This is true of all supremacist doctrines in my read of history.. in any event, if USrael was truthful with its populace they would have more opposition to their plans. So they lie, because that’s what they do best. Expedient and effective.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Oct 2 2024 13:46 utc | 155

This morning I overheard and listened to two minutes of NPR. You will be interested to learn the overwhelming majority of Iran’s missiles were shot down. A great many were intercepted by US destroyers stationed in the Red Sea, the Brits bagged quite a few as well. Iran’s missiles are cartoon missiles with beards and turbine. Official Reality is basically nothing happened.
Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 2 2024 13:31 utc | 142
Would be bad promotion for the military industry of the zionists to admit to its abject failure, considering the amount they export. Finland for example is (unfortunately) a major customer for arms from said entity.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20096895 -> article in finnish

Posted by: jure | Oct 2 2024 13:47 utc | 156

Sky News reporter
@markaustintv
tells
@s_m_marandi
that Iran’s retaliatory attack against Israel “failed” and “very few of the missiles got through” the iron dome.


The lying worms expose themselves in their very lie. The Iron Dome is meant for slow moving rockets and drones. It was never intended to hit ballistic missiles. The systems for that are Arrow 2 and 3, along with Patriot, SM6, and THAAD. Not sure where David’s Sling fits in. However Iron Dome can’t hit ballistic missiles or their war heads.
And of course their are the multitude of videos showing 80 – 90% survival rate for the warheads.

Posted by: JackG | Oct 2 2024 13:50 utc | 157

Posted by: qparker | Oct 2 2024 13:41 utc | 152
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Trump is an enthusiastic Zionist. I’m not American and loathe American electoral politics and yet, at the bar, I feel like I am the only person listening to and watching Trump as he actually is.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:52 utc | 158

Zargo @113: “…China and the Philippines play chicken in the South China Sea.”
You empire stooges have such a bizarre and delusional view of the world. It is truly hilarious.
China is not “playing chicken” with the Philippines. China is oh so gently redirecting the bad behavior of a foolish spoiled brat who is acting up because he thinks Uncle Scam has his back. The Philippines is like a little bug compared to China. China has to be careful dealing with the Philippines not because the Philippines are at all a threat, but because the Chinese are concerned about accidentally hurting them. If it came to a fight, China could eliminate the entire Philippine navy using only the Chinese Coast Guard, and even that would be overkill. Maybe China could just let the China Fishing Association deal with the Philippine navy.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 2 2024 13:54 utc | 159

I’m still not sure the gas platform was targeted. The short video shows that the platform lights are still on and the “fire” looks like a flare. Hitting the gas platform would be an infrastructure hit, and Iran said they did not target infrastructure. It would also make Iranian refineries and platforms a target.
Since Iran has not hit infrastructure, if Israel hits Iranian oil infrastructure it will piss off their American slaves and could set off a slave revolt.
Are there any good cites on this, or do they all trace back to the short video?

Posted by: JackG | Oct 2 2024 13:54 utc | 160

Trump is an enthusiastic Zionist.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:52 utc | 159

I see him more as being perfectly transactional, a lower ethos than a Zionist.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 13:56 utc | 161

I don’t know what got hit. I do believe things got wrecked. I believe 20 F35s got destroyed AND I believe it is possible that all of the F35s escaped harm.
We’re constantly fed a diet of bullshit to where it is increasingly difficult to trust anything we “hear”.
Frustrating. I can handle any truth dispassionately. Ambiguity really sets me off.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:58 utc | 162

@JackG @13:43 #154
I just got a link this morning from a Dutch friend WRT CJ Hopkins.
https://consentfactory.org/2024/10/01/guilty/
Not surprising, but depressing.

Posted by: ockham | Oct 2 2024 14:00 utc | 163

Musk has to operate within constraints so at a time like this censorship will be heavy on many platforms.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 2 2024 11:16 utc | 68
Lol Muskrat sets his own censorship constraints inasmuch as his US government contracts that keep his failing companies afloat allow.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 2 2024 14:01 utc | 164

“No one ever says what authoritative summaries “b” turns out.
Well I’m going to. Dead accurate and as ever gives us the essential framework. Thank you, “b”.”
Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 2 2024 13:38 utc | 149
I, enthusiastically, second that motion.

Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 14:01 utc | 165

Gaza:
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Overnight and early morning Israeli attacks have killed at least 79 people across the Gaza Strip, medical sources told Al Jazeera.
This includes at least 53 Palestinians killed in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, they said. [A lot of these were killed in displaced persons’ shelters and schools.]
– Al Jazeera live-feed
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Lebanon, IDF going after suburban homes where clearly civilians live:
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Around 00:30 GMT – Israel began a series of heavy air strikes in Beirut’s Dahiyeh. At least 10 raids rocked the densely-populated area within the next two hours. At least four residential buildings were destroyed, according to Arab media.
 
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/gaza-israel-war-lebanon-hezbollah-attacks-updates
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Jeremy Scahill has a new article up at Drop Site, and he mentions that it is possible Iran partly reacted right now because of some things that Jared Kushner was mouthing off about. Iran may have figured it would be better to attack now rather than wait for Israel/US to attack it at home. Interesting article, not least of all for the fact that it makes clear that Trump et al are not the peace-loving group some people think they are. Plus, all of them have to run thier mouths all the time.
Excerpt of Scahill article:
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[…] The mixture of triumphalism and threats continued when Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and former point man for Middle East affairs, issued a lengthy post on Twitter on September 29 openly demanding U.S. support for an Israeli attack against Iran.
“Iran is now fully exposed,” he wrote, adding: “Failing to take full advantage of this opportunity to neutralize the threat is irresponsible.”
Amid the drumbeat of threats and following the seeming decimation of its allies in Lebanon, Iran may have calculated that its best bet was to hit first before it was targeted at home, rather than continuing a policy of strategic patience.
“The narrative being created by Jared Kushner’s statement as well as Netanyahu’s regime change video was that Iran is now on its back, and this is the time to go and take them out,”  said Trita Parsi, executive vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. “This telegraphed a clear message that Israel was planning to attack Iran, one way or another, relatively soon.” […]
– Jeremy Scahill, drop site news
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/escalate-to-de-escalate-what-led
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Posted by: teri | Oct 2 2024 14:02 utc | 166

JackG | Oct 2 2024 13:50 utc | 158
And it was the Arrow 2 and 3 radars that appear to have been targeted in the first wave, whilst there was a small element of surprise, rendering those systems effectively blind. Those ABM systems that were active, on the 2 offshore USN ships, whilst they seem to have done better with 20 launches and 11 hits, that will still be a very worrying statistic when their main role is defending a carrier.

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 2 2024 14:03 utc | 167

If Israel cannot project violence through the air, they must do it on the ground, and that is tough sledding for them. Their ground troops suck and the Israeli are hyper averse to death.
Like turning down the lights in Ukraine, it makes perfect sense to reduce every Israeli airfield into a crater the likes of which was used to kill Nasrallah.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 14:04 utc | 168

Trump is and always has been all about Trump. He is never in the room when the s**t goes down. He has survived and prospered in the dirty worlds of NYC real estate and “entertainment”. He is a low-class person, far from a genius, but not a fool.
I am curious to see what he will have to say about this incident, because he is very pro-Zionist, but I don’t believe he is dumb enough to try to attack Iran directly, and I don’t believe the USA/West can put together an invasion force worthy of the name any time soon.
I wonder if Kushner will pipe up again too.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 2 2024 14:06 utc | 169

I just got a link this morning from a Dutch friend WRT CJ Hopkins.
https://consentfactory.org/2024/10/01/guilty/
Not surprising, but depressing.
Posted by: ockham | Oct 2 2024 14:00 utc | 164

welcome to the new reich. same as the old reich.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Oct 2 2024 14:08 utc | 170

Doctor Eleven@153….too funny, and you’d favor appeasement and restraint…..
So let’s be real, how many sorties does a F35 run and how many people, Palestinians and Lebanese die each time they are airborne. How do you stop that? Call ahead? Watch. As more Palestinians and Lebanese die from F35, F anything sorties. Yes by all means let’s save the killing machines….oh joy. You do feel the love.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 14:10 utc | 171

@grunzt
“Germany – will once again be fighting on the wrong side of history – this time, with the USUKIS block.”
Last time (1941-1945), Germany also fought on the side of the USUK block.

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 2 2024 14:14 utc | 172

“Never. Russia hasn’t even sold weapons to Iran …”
Posted by: rk | Oct 2 2024 9:14 utc | 25

Iran receives first deliveries of S-400s from Russia’s Almaz-Antey

By Boyko Nikolov On Aug 6, 2024
The New York Times, as cited by The Times of Israel on August 5, reported that Iranian officials claim Russia has started delivering advanced air defense and radar systems to Iran following Tehran’s request to the Kremlin.

The Times article did not specify the exact equipment requested by Iran or what has been delivered so far. Iran does already possess Russian S-300 air defense systems, although Russia has since developed the more advanced S-400 system.

Posted by: Laura Roslin | Oct 2 2024 14:16 utc | 173

I’m not an advocate for any war and I would hope the people of Israel will handcuff the beast man Netanyahu before any “retaliation.” If that does not happen, and to be honest I don’t think it will, why would Iran wait for any suspected retaliatory strike? One would expect Iran to quickly strike again being this is WW III.

Posted by: wt baker | Oct 2 2024 14:17 utc | 174

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 143
Trump fanbois are also ridiculously difficult to convince of any of that. Or Assange. Or Jerusalem. Or Cuba. Or China. But when you try you’ll be accused of TDS by the Reverse TDS geriatric Internet liars and victims of domestic abuse club. Watch…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 2 2024 14:18 utc | 175

With regard to the ‘positive’ spin being put on yesterday’s events, we need to bear in mind that in every newsroom and beside every reporter in Israel is an official military censor ensuring that nothing bad or nor certified OK goes out. Step out of line and they get the Al Jazeera treatment. Further, the Israeli Government has instructed its citizens not to video damage on military sites.
The only ‘accurate’ which may be biased, info that comes out is by ‘pirates’ on social media.
This leads to the situation where the bulk of the West’s populations don’t have a clue on what actually happened, believing what the BBC etc report is gospel, the only politicians that know reality are the few that have access to military intel and the leaders just do as they are told.

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 2 2024 14:18 utc | 176

Two Israeli officials: The cabinet meeting ended after several hours with an understanding of Israel’s military response, but no clear decision on what that response would be.
One of the reasons why no decision was made at the cabinet meeting was that Israeli officials wanted to consult with the Biden administration.
While Israel is expected to respond on its own, it wants to coordinate its plans with the United States because of the strategic implications of this situation. Israeli official: Another Iranian strike in retaliation for Israel would require defense cooperation with US Central Command, more ammunition for the Israeli Air Force and possibly other types of US operational support.
They decided to respond. However, if they delay the response, it means that they do not have the strength to counter Iran’s response.
They have limited defense missiles and will not be able to respond to waves of several hundred Iranian missiles in any way. They understood that without America they are very vulnerable and connected by a hair string.
Movements of the Americans in the region can be a good sign to determine the time of the response. The response itself of israel is not important, the important thing is Iran’s counter crushing response, which will be decisive, there should be no mercy in any way, and if this attack is carried out on Iran’s gas and oil facilities, it will be the best opportunity for Iran.
In that case, Iran can destroy their oil facilities in the entire region.

Posted by: grid5 | Oct 2 2024 14:20 utc | 177

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 2 2024 14:10 utc | 172
Sean is telling us he gets his news from BBC. Yes, sean, no F35s were destroyed. Time to tune in Piers Morgan.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 2 2024 14:20 utc | 178

Posted by: wt baker | Oct 2 2024 14:17 utc | 175
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If public polling can be believed, Bibi is exercising the will of many Israelis when he slaughters Palestinians.
He’s a lunatic but he’s leading a country gripped by psychopathy. The Nakba wasn’t yesterday.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 2 2024 14:21 utc | 179

Your idea is laughable-a month or so ago Russia delivered S-400’s to Iran inter alia.
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 10:15 utc | 42
There is no evidence that is the case, it is just the claims of X and telegram click bait channels.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 14:21 utc | 180

I haven’t been able to write anything here for a while because I’m caring for my 89 year old mother with dementia…
But the final speed at which the Fattah-2 hit is very reminiscent of the Zirkon…Hence the question: Is the Fattah the land-based version of the Zirkon???

Posted by: Larsbo | Oct 2 2024 14:24 utc | 181

Eighthman | Oct 2 2024 12:38 utc | 106
That is the big question. Does the tempo of airstrikes slow down or stop? Does Iran follow up and hit energy infrastruture? Iran has to follow up like Israel strike for strike. Israel has been doing that for decades. An airstike of Lebanon or Syria should equal a missle launch. Then they would be a protector of their brothers and sisters.
Also, I saw an article that said Israel struck Tartus the other day in a rare raid. Were they sending a message to the Russians? I cant find that damm article now.
Iran is saying they are done for now. I think they need to up the tempo. Strike for strike. If they do that I will eat my hat and a pair of dirty boots for desert.

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 2 2024 14:24 utc | 182

Someone shared a great TG video of Palestinian children excited watching the missiles rain down followed by explosions in the distance. Maybe they were west bank, not sure. It’s only something small but wonderful to see the light in their eyes. And some hope in a lost world of misery.
Posted by: JulianH | Oct 2 2024 10:19 utc | 44
It was on the last thread, and worth repeating.
This is by far the best video from the Iranian attack.
“We made the children of Gaza happy”
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10517
Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 6:28 utc | 667

Posted by: Rhymerez | Oct 2 2024 14:24 utc | 183

Bibi is a sociopath in every sense of the meaning of the word.
He deliberately sabotaged the US-Iranian negotiations with the strike on Hezbollah leadership and the assassination of the Iranian General.
His demented plan is now working perfectly, his actions prompted the Iranian retaliation strike, which will be followed by an IDF counterstrike, which will then prompt a much wider ME war involving US naval and air assets. US direct involvement is the keystone of the warped Bibi plan.
Is the Samson plan implementation far behind?
Will Biden awaken from his slumber long enough to stop the IDF madness?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 2 2024 14:26 utc | 184

I believe Israel’s nukes are all submarine-fired. If a country (like Russia) could destroy Israel’s subs, that would change things considerably.

Posted by: Sentient | Oct 2 2024 14:27 utc | 185

“re: De-Dollarization
10 year Treasury breaks 3.8%. Hmmm”
Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 13:28 utc | 140
______
“Can’t imagine for the life of me who would want a 10-year T security. Six-monthers are reckless enough already…”
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 2 2024 13:32 utc | 144
You lefties have a hard time understanding the bond market-the US 10 year is the most traded bond in the world-and if humans are the only intelligent life in the Universe-the US Ten year bond is the most traded bond in the universe.
There are a myriad of reasons (one being liquidity) -not just for safely or appreciation, but I am off doing shit don’t have time

Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 14:30 utc | 186

Tom Q Collins:
Trump “fanboi” here. There are two choices in the upcoming Presidential election.
1) Kamala Harris – has already said she “stands with Israel”; hasn’t uttered a word of condemnation regarding the pager attacks; and – if she becomes President – will be an empty vessel that will do whatever her neocon handlers tell her.
2) Donald Trump – the only US President in recent times NOT to start a major war; appalled an MSM interviewer when he refused to blame Putin for Ukraine and said he wanted “people to stop dying” in the conflict; and – for all his pro-Israel rhetoric – has said that Bibi “didn’t want to make a deal” re Palestine.
I suppose you could add RFK Jr, but for all his other qualities, he is an ardent Zionist. So that makes it Trump for me – the one actually proven to be the most war-averse, and therefore the best of a bad bunch.

Posted by: ADB | Oct 2 2024 14:42 utc | 187

Posted by: JohninMK | Oct 2 2024 14:18 utc | 177
It’s easier than that.
Iran claimed that mossad headquarter was hit, 2/3 air base were hit and the oil rig was hit.
Show the places intact and we all know that nothing happened, show nothing and we know something has happened.
It took a couple of days to have satellite images of the warehouse hit in Russia, it should not take more to show the satellite images of Israel airbase.

Posted by: Mario | Oct 2 2024 14:42 utc | 188

Sentient @ 186
The German governemnt paid for a third of the cost of those subs through industrial subsidies. They are diesel subs, they have to come up for air at some point.
Israel’s Tiny Submarines are the Secret to Its Survival

Posted by: circumspect | Oct 2 2024 14:44 utc | 189

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Oct 2 2024 8:26 utc | 7
“Strangely I have never felt so close to justice and world peace in a long time.”
I had a similar feeling today, like we’d passed a critical juncture, and justice had finally arrived on the scene.
I shall remain in hope that it lasts.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Oct 2 2024 9:59 utc | 35
Me too. Yesterday I had a strange cathartic sense of peace after the attack like the natural order of things, perversely suspended for a year, had returned to provide balance again.
And it is a weird feeling because, it appears clear the US wants Israel to ignite a full scale war with Iran. It seems people like Crooke are in disbelief that the US could have become so unhinged and irrational, but that’s the fact.
I think Iran is going to need to get more comfortable with such strikes and soon. Waiting and trying to work with a deranged Imperialism is a proven losing strategy. They have to fight.
Likewise, the western wage slaves need to drawn some conclusions. Like the Iranians and the Russians they will never be able to negotiate with the Imperialists either. The Western wage slaves have no government. The western wage slave needs to build it’s own Hezbollah with a political facet, a social service facet and, of course, a fighting wing, as there is no question such an organization acting as a parallel government of, by and for the wage slaves will come under the violent attack of the state.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 2 2024 14:45 utc | 190

Actually, the Ayatollah the Hon. Khomeini died many years ago. The Supreme Leader is the Ayatollah the Hon. Khamenei.

Posted by: petra | Oct 2 2024 14:47 utc | 191

Iran is said to have used Fattah-2 hypersonic ballistic missiles for the first time in its massive missile attack on Israel on Tuesday evening. According to Iranian media reports, Israeli Arrow missile defense systems were attacked with them.
According to the Iranian news agency Mehr, Fattah-2 hypersonic ballistic missiles were used in the massive missile attack on Israel. This was the first use of this Iranian development for combat purposes. Iran used the weapon to attack Israeli Arrow 2 and Arrow 3 missile defense systems, it is said.
On September 21, the Islamic Republic presented this hypersonic weapon to the public at a military parade. With the Fattah-2, Iran has joined the small circle of countries that possess hypersonic weapons.
As the Tasnim news agency explains, the Fattah-2 missile differs from its predecessor in its warhead, which is a glider and can maneuver at hypersonic speeds. Depending on the type, the speed of a Fattah-2 is Mach 5 to Mach 20.
“Instead of flying high like ballistic missiles, hypersonic gliders fly at a much lower altitude, but can change their trajectory several times before reaching their target. This makes it difficult for the enemy’s long-range anti-aircraft radars to detect them.”
According to information from Tehran, 90 percent of the missiles fired from Iran towards Israel have reached their target. Despite strong anti-aircraft defenses, “strategic centers” in Israel were also hit.

Posted by: Ossi | Oct 2 2024 14:48 utc | 192

teri | Oct 2 2024 13:40 utc | 150
teri, I’m sorry to say that the “double tap” goes at least back to WW2 and RAF bombing of Germany.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Oct 2 2024 14:48 utc | 193

Re: De-Dollarization brings Peace – A Primar
Interest Rates on Treasury Debt is a proxy for demand. Lower Demand = Higher Interest Rates.
Interest on 10 year Treasury debt slowly increased to 3.8% since the Federal Reseve ( Banking Cartel ) lowered interest rates by 0,50%. ?!?!??!?
That’s a early sign demand is falling . Lots of variables here, and too early to make a firm conclusion .
Net Net – If buyers of federal debt continue to demand these levels of interest rates, then in 2025 interest payments will consume 30-35% of Federal Tax Income.
That level of debt service versus income is very likely to spook buyers of federal debt; further lowering demand and increasing interest rates. That‘s a slow motion death spiral……
Which leads to the Federal Government being unable to use cheap low interest debt to fund wars. Maybe in 2027
Watch this space

Posted by: Exile | Oct 2 2024 14:49 utc | 194

From Gil:
It is inevitable that Russia’s support for Iran will bring it into direct confrontation with Washington.
Who will blink first? Given the vulnerability of all U.S. assets in the West Asian region starting with the aircraft carrier task force, I believe that Washington will blink first.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 2 2024 14:51 utc | 195

the US 10 year is the most traded bond in the world … not just for safely or appreciation
Posted by: canuck | Oct 2 2024 14:30 utc | 187

A recurring story with a sad ending.
https://www.google.com/search?q=john+law+mississippi+company
https://www.google.com/search?q=east+india+company+bonds

Posted by: too scents | Oct 2 2024 14:52 utc | 196

The Times article did not specify the exact equipment requested by Iran or what has been delivered so far. Iran does already possess Russian S-300 air defense systems, although Russia has since developed the more advanced S-400 system.
Posted by: Laura Roslin | Oct 2 2024 14:16 utc | 174
If the missiles used are us tomahawks, and probably will, some BUKs and lots of Pantsirs would be a huge thing.

Posted by: Newbie | Oct 2 2024 14:52 utc | 197

I think it is high time to resist, refuse and revolt.
Posted by: g wiltek | Oct 2 2024 8:14 utc | 2
You’re right and that applies to every western wage slave too. Aid the struggle against Imperialism at home. First step: an anti war movement that is not controlled by agencies of the democratic party!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 2 2024 14:54 utc | 198

Thanks for the excellent report, b! Anyone see any BDA sat pics today to confirm all the chatter? Reality is the fastest way to turn an Iranian Moderate into a Hardliner. Terrorism is what’s been ongoing in the Levant for many years but vastly escalated over the past year. SCO has a very strong anti-terrorism platform within it that I’ve argued will be used to fight the Outlaw US Empire since it’s the #1 Terror State followed by the Zionists with NATO as a distant third terror force.
As for disrupting the BRICS+ Summit, unless direct war is instigated by the Outlaw US Empire against Russia, that Summit will occur and deliver whatever is on its menu. I highly suggest the latest podcast featuring Nima/Hudson/Wolff where Wolff really shines. Also, Pepe and the Judge had another Midnight in Moscow chat discussing the attack.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2024 14:54 utc | 199

Eigthman
“The Guardian claims 180 missiles fired of which only nine got through and caused minor damage. They pronounced it a failure and Drudge put up a big red headline that way.”
Yes the western media have parroted the Israel media as they do the Ukrainian,
but it’s obvious from many videos that more missiles are hitting ground targets and detonating,
than being shot down.
BBC, Grauniad and the rest burying their reputations even deeper.
This video is interesting
https://t.me/presstv/112426
Look at the speed of the descending presumably hypersonic missile.
Doesn’t look to me like it was shot down.
Note that the cars are driving with white lamps in front and red ones behind.
In case you were wondering.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 2 2024 14:56 utc | 200