Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 8, 2024
For Doubters – Hizbullah Reports That It Is Back

The Zionists had hoped that their terror tactics of exploding pagers and the bombing of Hizbullah's leadership in Lebanon would hinder or decrease its enemy's ability to fight.

That hope however was in vane. Hizbullah, like its Hamas ally in Gaza, was build to sustain its efforts despite such incidents.

Today, Naim Qassem, the deputy leader of Hizbullah appeared in a broadcast and declared that Hizbullah remained fully operational:

In his address, Qassem stated, “We are firing hundreds of rockets and dozens of drones. A large number of settlements and cities are under the fire of the resistance.” He emphasised that Hezbollah's top leadership remains active and that the posts of the slain commanders have been filled, asserting, “We have no vacant posts.”

How useless it is to kill an enemy's leadership was also shown in Gaza:

[A]n insight into what is actually going on in Gaza was offered by Israel's latest announcement that it had killed three senior Hamas officials – Rawhi Mushtaha, the head of government and de facto prime minister; Sameh al-Siraj, who held the security portfolio on Hamas’s political bureau; and Sami Oudeh, commander of Hamas’s General Security Mechanism.

The air strike happened three months ago, and no one had noticed their absence. This is because Hamas continued to function regardless of which leaders were alive or dead.

In the past, assassinations had led to a period of uncertainty for Hamas. This happened after the killing of Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi in 2004. But it does not work today and nor does it work with this generation of fighters.

Yesterday Hizbullah fired five missiles on the harbor city of Haifa. Today 100 more missiles followed.

These are in response to Israel's bombing of Beirut's suburbs.

Israel has committed several division to invading the south of Lebanon. The distance they have managed to intrude from the border is still measured in mere meter.

Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai – 16:07 UTC · Oct 8, 2024

#Hezbollah's media warfare department is back: command and control is fully operational. Missiles and drones are filmed as they are launched. This means that the Ridwan ops will be filmed as it confronts the Israelis, in order to restore the morale of resistance supporters against the invaders.

Yesterday missiles from Gaza, Iraq and Yemen were aiming at Tel Aviv. Today Hizbullah also sent missiles towards it. Each such attack will cause an air alarm. People will interrupt their work and go into bunkers. Israel's air defense will exhausts it supplies while at least some missiles get through and hit their targets.

How long will the Israeli society sustain such stress?

The IDF Home Front Command is issuing stricter guidelines in several cities near Haifa, which prevent schools from operating.

Schools will not be able to open in Kiryat Ata, Kiryat Bialik, Kiryat Yam and Kiryat Motzkin, under the latest guidelines. Schools will stay open in Haifa itself, provided that a bomb shelter can be reached quickly enough.

The change comes after Hezbollah fired 105 rockets at the Haifa area this morning.

The Zionist prime minister Benjamin Natanyhoo urged the people of Lebanon to raise against Hizbullah. For him to do so must mean that the war is not going the way he hoped. There is zero chance that such an uprising will happen.

On October 1 some 200 missiles from Iran hit military targets in Israel. The publicly available videos show dozens of hits on an air base with hangers and planes affected. Damage at the other targets is still kept under censorship. But is is obvious that most of the Iranian missiles passed through Israeli air defenses and hit their intended targets.

While Israel has said that it will hit back in revenge for the strike is has yet to do so. It is likely that it fears the response that Iran would unleash on it.

There are thousands of missiles hidden in well protected Iranian sites that are aimed at elements Israel needs to function. Its electricity networks, refineries, harbors and airports are all targeted and would be hit.

This will be a long war and Israel, which had expanded and escalated it whenever possible, is not prepared for it.

Comments

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 8 2024 22:36 utc | 90
Anyone have any advise on specific steps re how to download the actual vid file..
It’s here on the web:
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/10/7/the-names-of-those-killed-in-israels-genocide-in-gaza
One admittedly tedious way to do it is to play it fullacreen and record your screen…
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 22:54 utc | 94

On YT … download as MP4 … (many YT down loaders available)
The names of those killed in Israel’s genocide in Gaza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poHGZW-mg_M

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 8 2024 23:28 utc | 101

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 8 2024 23:04 utc | 98
Again, Zionism has fuck all to do with the colonialist practices of the old British empire or those of the US well before the advent of this ideology. But it has become a convenient ideological crutch for the Anglo-American empire in the current international environment.
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Agreed on the whole, but there is definitely a neocon/Zionist coterie that influences the imperium from time to time, and convinces other actors that certain goals are in the interest of the imperium. I think Iraq was a good case in point back then… they certainly seem pretty ascendant now…

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 23:32 utc | 102

@ urban fox.
Well said, thank you.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 8 2024 23:35 utc | 103

Constantine above comment agree entirely with the addition of the nobility that survived the destruction of Rome growing from the new church that took over that ideology as there was a reason why the Jews became the bankers in the tiny room I was shown on a trip to northern Italy and Europe in 1969 because Catholics and Muslims prohibited receiving interest for loans of money to finance the conflicts thus the winners of all conflicts are the money lenders who have always believed they are the owners and everyone else is a slave. These bankers would collapse without the conflicts they promote around the world.

Posted by: Kerry Pay | Oct 8 2024 23:39 utc | 104

Posted by: south | Oct 8 2024 22:42 utc | 91
Lenin’s quote is not what you made up, but one he offered in a relevant question in an interview.
“What is this freedom of speech? Is it the freedom of the capitalists to buy out all newspapers and manipulate public opinion?”
What you posted on the other hand is out of place with Lenin’s line of reasoning even when he was attacking opponents. So unless there is some reference on the origins of this quote – which smacks of Yankee anti-communism – one can easily conclude that it originates form the same sewer of propaganda that concocted a ton of ficticious Stalin quotes as well as suggesting that Iosif Vissarionovich was responsible for pedophilia in the Catholic Church.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 8 2024 23:40 utc | 105

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 23:32 utc | 102
I was referring to the past of the British empire and the US. Zioism has become prevalent as a tool in the last decades. The invasion of Iraq and the War of Terror are in the latter era indeed.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 8 2024 23:49 utc | 106

Constantine 98
In the case of Charles Darwin his theories provided a crutch for the manifestly un- Christian colonial world, an outrageous , utterly racist and wrong justification , Evolution, for colonial brutality.
Maybe Zionism has the same function for the equally disgusting post-colonial colonials, whose parents fought and learnt the error of their ways in two world wars. In other words , Zionism puts back the relish of absolute power over powerless civilians which post-colonialism denies the bastards.
Zionism is to politics what professional sport is to recreational sport. An opportunity to behave disgustingly, vicariously , in a mad PR world.
But Tom Pfotzer’s simple description of the Jewish Nazi Neocons being the perpetrators and enablers of this disgusting stage of Zionist brutality is completely correct. Why try to deny it. There is no such thing as an open elite , except a politically correct elite which hates having to abide by International Law. Zionism’s layers of scriptural ignorance is twisted into an excude for doing manifest Evil, unnoticed.
One example from the past. Henry Hoare’s stately home at Stourhead has Classical Pillars, which subliminally represent a pre- Christian immorality, a licence to commit pre-Christian immorality , airbrushed by Art. This is what Zionism does, it let’s the greedy party on the blood of the weak, just like the good old days before International Law.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 8 2024 23:51 utc | 107

Posted by: Kerry Pay | Oct 8 2024 23:39 utc | 104
The nobility of the WESTERN Roman empire was for some time part of the Catholic Church which wasn’t the powerful institution it would become in the High Middle Ages onwards. No few saints in the Frankish kingdoms were Romano-Gauls brutalized by Christian Franks. Eventually aspects of western Christianity would be affected by the need to accomodate chiefs and kings of Late Iron Age Germanic tribes.
The prominence of Jews in banking and trade had to do with western Europe, where there had been serious restrictions towards immovable property ownership or numerous professions for the former and condemnation or aversion towards mercantile activities in the lands ruled by Germanics bearing an aversion for said activities in general. It isn’t a coincidence that this wasn’t a thing in the Byzantine empire or the Muslim world.
And the most prominent European bankers early on were mostly Italians (the “Lombards”, as they were collectivelly known early on), who indeed funded wars of various rulers (say, Edward III of England). Previously, kings like Charlemagne or Knut the Great didn’t require large loans from bankers for war, nor did the Caliphs, the Bulgarian khans or the Byzantine emperors.
And Fugger, the banker who funded the election of the Habsburg oly Roman Emperor Charles V or various Popes like Julius II was a Catholic, who sought the removal of Papal condemnations against usury and other banking activities. Jews were part of the team not the entirety of it.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 9 2024 0:07 utc | 108

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 8 2024 23:15 utc | 100
Pretty sure the IDF hit a SAM site outside of Isfahan, Iran a while back.
Israel has a couple of air to ground standoff missiles with a range in the low 100’s of miles. (100 to 300?) But likely not that many of any of them. Delilah, Ice Breaker, LORA, Rampage, ROCKS, Wind Demon

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 9 2024 0:10 utc | 109

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 8 2024 23:51 utc | 107
You need to reread Pfotzer’s post and my response (and apparently those of others). Unless there is some comprehension issue involved, there is no denial in my post about the influence of Zionism nowadays in western politics, especially in the Anglosphere. The rebuttal was about the generalization that it was Zionism that infected the west, hence its policies.
The basic idea is that such intense imperialist tendencies pre-existed and Zionism was adopted to serve current needs. Full stop. It’s pretty clear in the relevant posts.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 9 2024 0:13 utc | 110

107
If i am correct, that Zionism provides an artistic, vicarious excuse for the utterly corrupt like Trump and Biden to murder,rape torture and pillage, like before International Law , there had better be some bottom smacking and detention for these errant billionaires. And soon. Before they destroy Planet Earth, Human Civilisation and Faith in God.
I keep repeating one thing, that the second chance for Jews to have an Empire, which is prophecied in Islam, CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE AFTER the Jews repent of this abomination of genocide against the Palestinians this year.
They have the excuse the fucking yanks and the fucking Brits goaded them and enabled them to do it.
Smacked bottoms all round and detention. Expulsion from the institutions of the world.
We desperately need somebody, somehow to bring this evil to an end and punish the Globalist perpetrators. Russia and China and the adultd at this moment in time with the power. Only when that happens, and not one second before, will God give Judaism a taste of power. Imho.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 9 2024 0:17 utc | 111

Yo! Hasbarats… you know what I’m going to say , so i’ll skip it.
It’s too late now to make a leisurely exit plan anyway.
Also Florida appears to be … unwelcome at the moment and depending on the hype possibly not very secure for houses for the near future if ever again.
Though prices may become very cheap soon ! So probably Canada, Australia or the happy lands of Argentina. You’ll feel right at home with all the Nazis and banderists that came from your original homelands.
How about Chicago?
Probably won’t like California as much … too many err foreigners for the taste of Apartheid sensibilities. Same goes for here in multicultural multi ethnic Britain. Your girls may find some richer meat!
Ah well enjoy all the homeschooling and make sure you have plenty of water and shovels as the infrastructure suddenly matches Gaza’s and toilets and taps do t function any more. 😉
Ps don’t forget to burn everything as you leave your ‘Atlanta’.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 9 2024 0:18 utc | 112

@ SattaMassaGana | Oct 8 2024 23:28 utc | 101
Thankyou kindly. All Good. ‘Turdworld’ set me straight. Cheers.

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 9 2024 0:19 utc | 113

@LoveDonbass | Oct 8 2024 22:06 utc, who said:

The Zionists are the latest in a long line of patsies.

LoveDonbass: That’s one awesome, highly-evolved extremely powerful “patsy” that can control the U.S.’ entire foreign policy apparatus and intelligence operations, and _back that up_ with complete capture of Congress, and _back that up_ with complete capture of the Religious Right _and_ the liberal left.
That’s a pretty awesome “patsy”.
Anyone that still believes the Zionists are patsies is doing an awful lot of selective observation-repression. No way a “patsy” gets that much control before … here it is, LoveDonbass … before the patsy becomes the host. The patsy has become the host.
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@Constantine | Oct 8 2024 23:04 utc.
Constantine, I think your rendition is a lot closer to the mark, as is Trubind’s (and others in this thread) who assert that opportunism and might-makes-right ethos has permeated the upper ranks of American policy for … a very long time.
But as Constantine asserts, there’s been a train-wreck (from my point of view) of confluence of the innate predatory nature of the U.S.’ “elites” and a very effective re-packaging and justification of that predation in the form of the NeoCons (The New American Century) and the Zionists (We’re ordained by God to Own Everything).
It’s this confluence of sociopathic intent _and_ technical mastery of the means, including comm channels (monitoring and recording of Internet activity), of “the narrative” (Hollywood and TV), of narrative enforcement (AIPAC, ADL, the social-media censorship), the weaponization of the law (use of FBI to repress, use of Justice Dept to prosecute outliers), the CIA to conduct “color revolutions” and to steal entire countries (like Ukraine) on behalf of the behind-the-scenes oligarchs …
This collaboration, the cohesive, coordinated, highly effective design and application of all these tools is a plan, a project, a well-shared philosophy.
The Zionists bring the cover story, the political shield (holocaust, et. al), the victim-hood, the NeoCons (and the Zionists) bring the Divine Right of Kings Entitlement perspective, and all the opportunistic fellow-riders (Trump, Biden, Name-Your-Oligarch (Defense contractors, Musk, Zuckerberg, Do-No-Evil Brin and Page bring the operational mechanisms) … they are all on the train.
This is an almost-global phenomenon, as Snake pointed out. The philosophies of the Zionist-Neocons are on full display in the UK, Germany, France, Canada, and Australia. The same rules apply across these very politically diverse, yet _remarkably_ behaviorally-similar countries … for ex: can’t ridicule or defy the Zionist-NeoCon agenda, right?
Even in Russia, Mr. Putin has to step very gingerly. He’s bent over backwards to avoid antagonizing the Zionist Oligarchs that occupy key – vital – roles in Russia’s industrial and financial infrastructure.
So I assert to you, Constantine, that this Zionist-NeoCon phenomena has “metastasized” way beyond the historical norms of just, for example, being able to make big war-loans (Balfour) or campaign contributions (Truman), or “own the newspapers, so own the polity”. That was last-few-centuries “amateurs” at work.
This Zionist-Neocon gang delivers a whole new level of control and coordination. It’s well beyond anything, in terms of comprehensive political control and raw economic power (the Banks have unlimited credit, right? Enabled and fully back-stopped by the Fed) anyone’s ever seen.
There’s never really been anything like this.
When people ask “who’s the tail, and who’s the dog?” they’re missing the point. The Dog is a monolith. It’s one well-integrated, highly purposeful, immensely powerful and dangerously misdirected force.
Yes, Constantine, and other commenters – this force has several historical tributaries, but it’s become One. And I posit – the reason many of us root for China and Russia and Iran is because we see them as the last bastion of resistance to this gargantuan force that’s beset us. We don’t think we can stop this crazy, and we’re hoping someone else will.
For me, I still am afflicted by the hope – against all available evidence at the moment – that the promise – the much-acclaimed promise of the American experiment in self-governance will somehow survive all this, and finally get its mojo on. And that, of course, is why I’m willing to say all this publicly.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 9 2024 0:21 utc | 114

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 8 2024 20:40 utc | 62
Syria: there were a couple of stories a week or two ago that the IDF had destroyed the last of the Syrian long range radars. Thus the IDF might be able to fly along the Syrian / Jordanian border without much risk. This would take them into Iraq which I don’t think has much in the way of air defense or an air force. Then the launch of rocket powered standoff weapons outside of the Iran’s air defenses.
However, as I noted elsewhere, it is not believed that the IDF has a lot of the standoff missiles.
My view is that Israel should ignore the Iranian strikes at this point. Hitting Iran would almost certainly trigger more Iranian missile attacks. My guess is that Iran could launch 5 more strikes of the size of that last one of about 200 missiles. That would very likely cause a lot of damage.

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 9 2024 0:24 utc | 115

Posted by: Ed4 | Oct 9 2024 0:24 utc | 115
Yes, Ed4, you made it clear that you stand with Israel and its “right to defend itself”. You have been consistent that the totally sovereign, prosperous democracy of Ukraine that was freed from Russia in 2014 has the right to defend itself from the unprovoked full-scale invasion of Putin in February 2022.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 9 2024 0:41 utc | 116

the zionists of israel are absolutely bat shit crazy
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1843757068333003075
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
A serious religious offence
#Israel’s Channel 14 has openly displayed photos of its alleged hit list, which features most respected figures in the Shiite Muslim world, such as #Iraq’s Ayatollah Sayyed Ali al-Sistani, #Iran leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei, the two most respected Shiite religious leaders worldwide. Leaders of #Yemen, #Lebanon and others are included.
#العراق #السيستاني
#آيران #الخامنئي
Photo @ozturkahmet99 & @HalaJaber

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 0:43 utc | 117

Thankyou kindly. All Good. ‘Turdworld’ set me straight. Cheers.
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 9 2024 0:19 utc | 113

… you’re welcome …

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 9 2024 0:46 utc | 118

@ 11 librul
That is a shame and hurts. I tend to look on it as people not wanting to be part of what is occuring there, and cannot blame them. The rest is just being mesmerised by local media. If you think someone is discapacitated (e.g. as the above) then it is sad but you have to be gentle, steer arguments into history or some common ground that is not confrontational. Family arguments are not good, and the energy from the conflict in Palestine is extremely polarising. “I think it would be good if we agreed to not talk about Palestine again” would be better than not talking at all. Peace, I hope you understand each other better eventually for the differences.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 9 2024 0:50 utc | 119

@ Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 22:25 utc | 87
regarding who was behind 9-11 – i don’t know, but it is likely it was a confluence of interests and it would surprise me if mossad wasn’t in on it.. of course the dancing jewish group after the fact was in the news immediately after 9-11.. see the overview below..
The Five Dancing Israelis (Mossad) on 9/11

Posted by: james | Oct 9 2024 0:53 utc | 120

After a year of brutality against Gaza, Hamas and Gaza are still not defeated, and the effects of strangulation are being felt.
Al-Aqsa Flood – one year on
David Miller explains how multiple factors have caused the Israeli economy to be strained.

GDP down 19.4%
Construction down 33.3%
Agriculture down 25%
Estimated 60,000 Companies may may close in 2024 due to staff shortages, supply chain disruption and waning business confidence
Eilat bankrupted in July due to 85% drop in activity as a direct result of AnswarAllah blockade on Red Sea shipping

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/10/05/734615/Al-Aqsa-Flood—one-year-on

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Oct 9 2024 0:59 utc | 121

Something isn’t right about this Gallant visit thing. I could have sworn I read an article yesterday (or the day before) that Gallant had flown to DC and was meeting with Austin.
Not “going to”, not “considering”, but was there. Then I hear how his visit was cancelled— “postponed” and Nuttyahoo meeting with cabinet…blah blah
Now I hear how Nutty decided to stay focused on Hamas & Hezbollah, not hit Irans nuclear facilities, but hit something else in Iran instead.
I personally think Gallant did fly there and back already, and plan finalized.
I personally think he was given green lite to low yield/EMP type attack on Iran, I think a massive, massive attack on Iran is coming, and all this “maybe this, maybe that”…Gallant, meeting with Cabinet next week… stuff is BS.
From DC to Tel Aviv, these people think themselves invincible, untouchable. After the Putin slam down, they are ready to show the world (US that is) just how tough & magnanimous they are, and all should fear them, knowing Iran is not a nuclear power.
Probably my spider senses are wrong, but something in all this shape shifting narratives this week doesn’t feel right.
I hope Iran is indeed as ready as they say they are. Guess this bad feeling will pass. For certain, there’s nothing really rational in having this feeling really.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2024 1:24 utc | 122

“The Zionist prime minister Benjamin Natanyhoo urged the people of Lebanon to raise against Hizbullah.”
LMAOOOOOO! Bibi Miliekowsky the most arrogant sociopath alive. What makes him think that the Lebanese people would do such a thing and HOW.DARE.HE!!
What DOES need to happen however, is the kicking out of the US from Lebanon. US officials are working with Aoun against Lebanese interests.
The population of treacherous, betraying pro US puppets is never in short supply, is it?
Btw, when Hezbollah uses more of its drones and missiles that the iron dome can’t shoot down,and causes some real damage,like Iran did, things will change in the M.E..

Posted by: Kay | Oct 9 2024 1:25 utc | 123

@ ed4, let’s just agree to disagree on the alleged SAM hit as payback.
If there was one, more likely drones from inside Iran by MEK or other proxies.
The “narratives” that followed Iran’s first direct strike on the occupied entity were aimed at maintaining the entity’s invincibility.
I have no doubt the Zionists have stand off weapons. The failure to strike Iran in an unrestrained manner typical of the Zionists is very telling.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 9 2024 1:31 utc | 124

meanwhile back at the ranch in Lebanon
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/10/08/734857/UN-Lebanon-same-spiral-of-doom-Gaza-Israel-war
Lebanon could face same ‘spiral of doom’ as Gaza amid Israel’s savagery: UN officials
UN humanitarian officials call for urgent action to stop the Israeli regime from turning Lebanon into a second Gaza, as its military forces are using “the same means and methods of warfare” in the Arab country.
Matthew Hollingworth, Lebanon country director for the United Nations’ World Food Program (WFP) warned Tuesday that Israel is using the same methods of warfare in Lebanon that claimed the lives of nearly 42,000 people and caused widespread destruction in the past year in Gaza…..
…James Elder, spokesman for the UN children’s agency UNICEF, also said, “the commonalities are unfortunately absolutely there to be seen, whether it is displacement on the ground, impact upon children or language being used … (to) soften the realities on the ground.”
And Jeremy Laurence of the UN rights office said, “We are seeing the same patterns that we saw in Gaza.”
“The devastation is beyond belief for all people in Lebanon as it is in Gaza. We can’t let this happen again.”
Israel’s bombardment of Lebanon has killed more than 1,100 people and displaced upwards of a million in less than two weeks, according to officials.
The World Health Organization said it had registered 16 attacks on health care in Lebanon since mid-September, leaving 65 health care workers dead and 40 injured……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 1:32 utc | 125

@ jane
There wouldn’t need to be legislation. An executive order by a pres with balls (if that could ever happen) is all that it would take. ‘National security, bitches’ is all they would need to say, especially since SCOTUS has ruled POTUS is actually a king with absolute immunity.
Posted by: motorslug | Oct 8 2024 21:21 utc | 69
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Would such an Executive Order apply beyond the Executive Branch?
I think that no duals should be allowed to serve anywhere in government at any level, in any branch of government: not in Congress, not on any congressional staffs or committees, not in the executive branch, not in the judiciary. NADA.
And any duals working for lobbies must be registered as such and all of the finances of the lobbies they work for must be open to public review.
We also need to get a handle on the loyalties of people working for think tanks that are de facto arms of official policy making. They write a lot of the legislation that find sponsors in Congress for the legislation they want.
We need to make crystal clear: You can think whatever you want as a loyal citizen. That is in the First Amendment. But you can’t think whatever you want in a position of power and have divided loyalties or even greater loyalty to another country. We would not allow a dual with Russian citizenship anywhere near our government, would we? The Zionists are much worse. Russians have some honor. Zionists have none.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 1:35 utc | 126

Pretty much think Israel made this “demand” before:
Anyways… latest:
https://tass.com/world/1853829
“ 8 OCT, 20:29
Israel demands that Hezbollah lay down weapons in exchange for ceasefire — TV
“Israel demands that Hezbollah lay down its weapons and retreat to the north from the Litani River in exchange for a ceasefire in Lebanon,” Al Arabiya said”
“ DOHA, October 9. /TASS/. As a precondition for a ceasefire in southern Lebanon, Israel demands that Lebanon’s Hezbollah militia laid down weapons and pulled back its forces, the Al Arabiya television reported citing French diplomatic sources.
“Israel demands that Hezbollah lay down its weapons and retreat to the north from the Litani River in exchange for a ceasefire in Lebanon,” one of the sources said.”
Yeah sure.
Seems someone doesn’t want the ground war.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2024 1:40 utc | 127

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 9 2024 0:21 utc | 114
I liked the gist of your post, Tom.
In Doctorow’s latest response, he carves up the US Foreign Policy establishment into Realists and Idealists (which archetypes can be extrapolated back to the foundation of the republic).
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/
It’s sort of interesting, and he lumps the ZioCons in with the Idealists, who operate to assert (their) putatively universal values, whereas the Realists assert interests based on a somewhat more nuanced understanding of particularities of time and place, history etc. In practice, I think US Foreign Policy is a toxic combination of both, and your post did bring that out… but I still have trouble with the concept of a monolithic ZioCon juggernaut dictating everything.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 1:40 utc | 128

The Zionists didn’t blow JFK or RFK away. . . .
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 8 2024 22:06 utc | 81
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Oh, yes, it is quite likely that they did.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 1:49 utc | 129

Last part shows UK using Cyprus airbase for war crimes
Will no one rid of the turbulent UK bases in the Middle East and Cyprus? Its not like the UK can actually defend them.

Posted by: Jonny Law | Oct 9 2024 1:52 utc | 130

@ Jane | Oct 9 2024 1:35 utc | 126
Eliminating dual citizenship entirely and limiting certain activities to American citizens would be a much more elegant solution. However, that would almost certainly require a constitutional amendment — and of course virtually everyone in Washington would oppose it, for quite obvious reasons.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 1:57 utc | 131

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2024 1:24 utc | 122
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Today’s podcast of Judge Nap with LtCol Karen Kwiatkowski: The latter is of the opinion that the Ziocrazies see that hey have an opportunity, while DC is basically in disarray, to go for it. Get it all. All the land. Kill all the Pals. Get Lebanon up to the Litani at least. Maybe more land. They have been waiting for over 100 years to get all the Pals out of Palestine. The easiest way is just to kill them, and that is what they are doing.
This is their chance. They are grabbing it. Most Israelis are excited by this and think it can finally happen. No more annoying Pals.
All the land they claim.
A lot of new real estate.
Plenty of new investment once they get the place cleaned up a bit.
It is also a resource grab, of course, and the Biden—ah, Blinken Sullivan Hochstein—administration is on board with that.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:01 utc | 132

“Oh, yes, it is quite likely that they did.”
Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 1:49 utc | 129
They did. People need to just stop this old-fashioned thinking that “Israel” is just a little country in the eastern Mediterranean. It’s a global tribe and has been for centuries. Look up what Union Army general Grant said when he banned them for being rent-seeking carpetbaggers before the war was even won. He calles them “Nation of Israel”. It really isn’t a big mystery. Not even in the 1860s.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 2:02 utc | 133

and of course virtually everyone in Washington would oppose it, for quite obvious reasons.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 1:57 utc | 131
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What I said. ((:-))

Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:04 utc | 134

One mainstream link here…..
https://www.history.com/news/ulysses-grant-expulsion-jews-civil-war

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 2:07 utc | 135

https://x.com/imetatronink/status/1843794157288206498
Will Schryver @imetatronink
The US must have run out of MQ-9 Reaper drones, 11 of them having now been shot down by the Yemeni. So now they’re using a high-flying RQ-4B Global Hawk, based in Sicily.
Of course, the Iranians have already proven they can shoot down a Global Hawk, so …
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1843721851383755043
Lord Bebo @MyLordBebo
🇺🇸🚨‼️ WATCH: Journalist can’t take it anymore and confronts state spokesman on immoral U.S. behavior!
“We’re sick of this bull**it, you’re risking a nuclear war in Ukraine and abetting geno**de in Gaza”
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1843825078389412214
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand
The French spokesperson for the IDF just told leading news channel @BFMTV that they do “an excellent job in presenting the conflict”.
When a party in a war – all the more a genocidal party – literally cheers your coverage, you’re anything but journalists.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 2:13 utc | 136

and of course virtually everyone in Washington would oppose it, for quite obvious reasons.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 1:57 utc | 131
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What I said. ((:-))
Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:04 utc | 134
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That much, yes. But you left out the part where we disagree. You think that dual citizens should be barred from certain activities; I think that dual citizenship should be eliminated.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:22 utc | 137

Re: Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:01 utc | 132
Agree. Was just reading this as well:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/once-in-a-generation-opportunity-israeli-officials-urge-strikes-on-irans-oil-and-nuclear-sites/
It’s a long article, full of word salad, irrational and nonsensical statements, from an obviously panicked Zio-terrorist. A few head scratcher highlights:
“Israel should take advantage of the opportunity when there is ***international legitimacy*** and destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities,” she added. She was speaking at the annual international conference on counter-terrorism led by the Institute for Counter-Terrorism Policy (ICT) at Reichman University, the rpeort said.
“It is something that ***sounds scary, but whatever *** (?)**is delayed now, will be more complicated later,” she further said.
“The right and ideal thing would be to ***harness the international community*** and **have the US do it. **
The world powers are the ones who should do it, **but they don’t do it,*** (? Where’s all that “legitimacy ” from earlier statement?). and it would be **better if we do it than if we convince ourselves that there will be a more appropriate time, because there won’t be a more appropriate time.”
There is some serious panic.
Anyways, lots of statements from Bennett & statements about how would be best time since Hamas & Hezbollah “are considerably weakened”.
After reviewing PC on reports, it appears West Bank, Gaza & Hezbollah have had a serious uptick in “offensive” attacks in all zones of activity, and Israeli soldiers are getting hit.
Also think US doing their “plausible deniability” thing with the Gallant thing… “what.. whatd they do? They didn’t talk to us about that “… blah blah blah

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2024 2:25 utc | 138

I think that dual citizenship should be eliminated.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:22 utc | 137
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Yes, there we disagree.
There are lots of dual citizens besides Israelis.
It is the latter that cause the problems as a group.
Americans with Irish, Italian, German, French, Portuguese, UK, etc. passports don’t cause anyone any trouble (that I am aware of) or pose serious issues of disloyalty and treason.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:30 utc | 139

Oct 8
Israel’s Minister of Defense cancels visit to Pentagon amid Middle East conflict escalation

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 9 2024 2:35 utc | 140

@ Jane | Oct 9 2024 2:30 utc | 139
Of course they don’t cause problems *now*. Perhaps you’re in a position to assess their complaisance for all eternity; I am not.
Curious you should select countries that are reliable US bitches.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:37 utc | 141

Ed4, Trubind 1
A few days ago someone here mentioned pbs newshour reporter nick shifrin reporting on a missile crater near Mossad HQ. Here is the video with the building behind him that he says is mossad hq. Vaguely disappointed that the Iranians said they hit it. Unless the caught the backside of it and little nicky only got to see the front.
https://x.com/nickschifrin/status/1841247444522217931/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1841247444522217931&currentTweetUser=nickschifrin

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 2:40 utc | 142

I think that citizenship should be eliminated.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:22 utc | 137
Fixed that for ya, mal!

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 2:43 utc | 143

“I think that dual citizenship should be eliminated.”
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:22 utc | 137
Only globalists would disagree with that. Jane is a globalist without even knowing it, or the consequences of it, I think. It just sounds so universally good-speak and noble to her,
Like it does to so many including my unthinking inlaws. Culture of permissiveness, culture of anything goes.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 2:45 utc | 144

RE: Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 2:40 utc | 142
On the plus side, that very crater spot may well have housed the underground meeting room. Doubt they meet in said building. I’d hold off on being disappointed. When the tell-all book comes out in 20 years, we’ll all know more.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 9 2024 2:47 utc | 145

Paying attention, one notices that certain noble women and men here will attend the few protests in USA supporting Gaza and Palestinians, but they are also smart enough to never organize or attend any kind of protest against the Ukies or in favor of Russia. They watch big media intensively (despite any denials here) and they know what is permissible and what isn’t. Status-seeking.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 2:56 utc | 146

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 2:56 utc | 146
You seem to be implying there is some moral equivalence between the conflict between Russia and Ukraine and the flat out colonial genocide and colossal moral failure in Palestine.
The moral cause for Palestine is more compelling than the one for Ukraine. It makes perfect sense that those galvanised by the Palestinian cause would not be able to generate the same amount of moral certainty for Ukraine or Russia.
Be fair.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 3:01 utc | 147

I think that citizenship should be eliminated.
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 9 2024 2:22 utc | 137
Fixed that for ya, mal!
Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 2:43 utc | 143
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Oooh, you might inspire me to write a song about that! I think I might call it something like ‘Imagine’…
Now, where’s dat bong?

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 3:09 utc | 148

anyone who can’t see 9-11 as an inside job, or the turning of a blind eye on what happened oct 7th 2023 – are missing a key part of the picture here – as i see it..
Posted by: james | Oct 8 2024 22:15 utc | 83
Speaking of which…
9/11 and the ensuing oil wars happened 2 years after 1999’s global Peak Cheap Oil tipping point (when adjusted for inflation).
Here the Peak Oil 2 Year Rule as patterned by yours truly:
1970 was peak US conventional oil. 2 years later the us surrounded the ME and forced the world into the petrodollar.
1989 saw USSR hit peak oil. 2 years later it collapsed.
1999 global peak cheap oil and 9/11 2 years later.
2005 was global peak conventional oil. 2 years later was the GFC and then end of all real global growth.
2018 was peak global total oil liquids production. 2 years later was the pandemic, the primary function of which was to destroy so much oil demand such that the world could stagger on for five more years.
It has now been five years. Thus the big nuclear scare this month.
Canuck, sean, read it and weep. An abiotic sucker of CIA disinformation is born every hour. You’ll never walk alone. 🙂

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 3:11 utc | 149

james | Oct 9 2024 0:53 utc | 120
This is a pretty comprehensive look at the likelihood of Zionist involvement regarding 9/11:
Israel Did 9/11

Posted by: sf | Oct 9 2024 3:16 utc | 150

Oooh, you might inspire me to write a song about that! I think I might call it something like ‘Imagine’…
Now, where’s dat bong?
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 3:09 utc | 148
Speaking of which…
Gabbard’s function during phase 2 of the Hidden Hand’s Non-Public Degrowth Agenda is to hopefully lead the world through a civilizational collapse without a nuclear winter such that the talented and lucky tenth of humanity shall survive the disappearance of nation states. It turns out that the Elites are on the talented tenth’s side after all, because the Elites, too, put their pants on one leg at a time.
Enjoy the short vid:
https://youtu.be/chEbezKKrMs?feature=shared

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 3:26 utc | 151

Hiding behind the UNIFIL – Resistance Roundup – Day 368

(excerpts)…. The Lebanese Hezbollah group said it bombed an Israeli force that advanced towards the border area of Labouneh, achieving confirmed casualties and forcing it to retreat.
The statement followed claims by Israeli Energy Minister Eli Cohen that the Israeli army occupied the Maroun al-Ras area and destroyed houses from which Hezbollah allegedly fired rockets towards Israel.
On Tuesday, the Israel Broadcasting Corporation published video footage showing Israeli soldiers waving the Israeli flag in what it said was the southern Lebanese town of Maroun al-Ras.
However, Hezbollah confirmed in a statement that its fighters spotted an Israeli enemy force that infiltrated from behind the position of the international forces (UNIFIL) and dealt with them using ‘appropriate weapons’, forcing them to withdraw behind the border area.
In a separate statement, Hezbollah said that it bombed a gathering of the Israeli occupation forces in the settlement of Metulla with rockets, and targeted with a squadron of drones a gathering of the Israeli enemy forces in the settlement of Yaara.
The Lebanese group also announced that it has carried out 3,194 military operations against Israeli military sites and settlements since October 8, 2023, noting that its operations led to the evacuation of 100 settlements and the displacement of more than 300,000 Israelis.
Below are the latest statements by the two main Resistance forces in Gaza, and the Lebanese Resistance Movement Hezbollah. ….

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/hiding-behind-the-unifil-resistance-roundup-day-368/#
Comments:
Southern Front – very active with various Brigades Soldiers attacking IDF fighters and equipment. Long list and couple of Videos
Eastern Front – radio silence
Northern Front – long list of actions by Lebanese and many strikes by Iraqis.
Merkava talky plus 1 damaged
223 “Destroyed”
~655 “damaged/disabled”
Pray for peace

Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2024 3:33 utc | 152

Re: Dual Citizenship in Gov’t
That used to be described as divided loyalty

Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2024 3:35 utc | 153

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 3:26 utc | 151
Nice! She sings better than me… On the strength of that, I reckon she’s part of the talented tenth all right. I shall have nothing and I shall be happy until I die.
And although Putin did his best with Blueberry Hill, he can’t match that.
As for Trump, he should stick to singing Depeche Mode’s ‘Agent Orange’. LOL

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 3:37 utc | 154

Posted by: Exile | Oct 8 2024 18:14 utc | 15
Not sure how legit this story and storyteller are.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Oct 9 2024 3:41 utc | 155

“The moral cause for Palestine is more compelling than the one for Ukraine. It makes perfect sense that those galvanised by the Palestinian cause would not be able to generate the same amount of moral certainty for Ukraine or Russia.”
Be fair.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 3:01 utc | 147
I don’t think you are right at all in this case. I will have to think about it some more. Nope. Don’t have to think about much more. The Slavic deaths in Ukraine and Russia outnumber the deaths in Gaza-Lebanon by a full order of magnitude.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 4:08 utc | 156

“It makes perfect sense that those galvanised by the Palestinian cause would not be able to generate the same amount of moral certainty for Ukraine or Russia.”
Be fair.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 3:01 utc | 147
I will think about it some more because you are so often correct and always well spoken. But I stand by my accusation that certain nobility ladies here who constantly virtue-signal on the Israel-Palestinian issue are way too chicken-shit to speak up for Russia vs Ukraine in public because they are far more interested in being considered “cool” and “noble” in their peer groups an on television than they are interested in actually standing up for something. I see it all the time. More suckups.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 4:23 utc | 157

The fellow on the banjo is named Abraham. He’s Tulsi’s husband. In the OT Abraham’s wife was named Sarah. Sarah couldn’t conceive children. Tulsi can’t conceive children, all of her IVF treatments failed. The OT God promised Sarah that she would become the mother of all nations just sayin…

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 4:25 utc | 158

The Iranians have some decent air defense systems, and a modest/rather small air force.
See here for more military hardware analysis: https://x.com/Pataramesh/
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10833
Middle East Spectator
— ❗️🇮🇷☢️ Deputy of the Supreme Leader’s Representative in the IRGC:
‘Based on Islamic principles and ethics, the construction and use of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction in general is not permissible.
However, if it becomes necessary to safeguard the lives, property, and honor of the Muslims and the Iranian population, the Islamic Republic of Iran will undoubtedly reconsider its stance on the development of its nuclear program and take the required actions.’

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 4:27 utc | 159

Jane is a Massachusetts liberal suck-up to popularity. Sometimes not always.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 4:29 utc | 160

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 4:23 utc | 157
Or perhaps it’s because she is not Ukrainian or Russian, but she is Jewish and this war in Israel happens to have something to do with Jews. Perhaps if she was Slavic Orthodox Christisn she would be more passionate about the subject. Funny how most humans care about causes they can identify with and have thought about deeply and not just Jane.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Oct 9 2024 4:39 utc | 161

@ michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 2:13 utc | 136
thanks michael..
@ sf | Oct 9 2024 3:16 utc | 150
thanks sf.. i will take a look..

Posted by: james | Oct 9 2024 4:43 utc | 162

Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2024 3:33 utc | 152
Pray for peace
………
I do every day, but with Harris and Trump trying to outdo each other with their bomb-bomb-Iran speeches, I think I share Trubind1’s gut feeling that they really do think this is their one/last chance… (and the hubris that it can be done without too much consequence).

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 4:46 utc | 163

The image of jews dying meekly in gas chambers without a fight, popularized and exploited by Jewish supremacists… this time they will die with a fight and rifles in their hands, but die they will and no one will care. How low they have sunk as a people? We see it. They bomb suburbs and refugee camps. It’s not complicated unless you’re a moral retard.

Posted by: Hahajizzjizz | Oct 9 2024 4:49 utc | 164

Go away you Hahajizzjizz Troll. You’re so stupidly transparent. Swine.

Posted by: CrazyTrain | Oct 9 2024 4:56 utc | 165

IMO the biggest problem with chicken & egg debates aka whose wagging who the tail or the dog is that it relies overly on one single over-arching cause.
I see that tendency among humans to find a single cause as something related to monotheism, that is once humans strayed from the path of polytheistic belief where folks’ lives were subject to situations created by many different gods, sometimes working in unison for a common outcome, yet many other times competing with great rivalry resulting in conflict perhaps they too considered numerous motivations and causes for situations.
Equally humans could always have been reductionists attributing all around them to a single action/person/god/devil/motive and that inspired them to do the same with their theism.
I’m nopt a philosopher, I don’t have a f**kin clue which it was and when considering ‘the west’s relationship with the creepy zionist entity I reckon you can get a much better handle on it is you look at the zionist state as being an evolution into deformation and dysfunction the inevitable result of a long series of selfish & corrupt moves & motivations.
The original proposal by Rothschilds & their mates was supported by the englander government because it was believed to be a viable way of ensuring victorian england wasn’t ‘overrun’ by unwhite jews. That needed to be nipped in the bud tout de suite cos one of that lot (Disraeli) had become Prime Minister of england for gawd’s sake!
So Rothschild et al were encouraged to buy land in Palestine from the Ottomans – white supremacy rules.
Yet when england finally took on the Ottoman empire face to face they went for the most viable warriors to do the job of developing a new colony for england by driving the Turks out of the Ottoman empire, the Palestinians. One thing englander grunts had shown in France at the Some was their inability to win a blue
This caused a minor kerfuffle after The Great War© when the decision to follow up on the “Keep england White” was favoured and the zionist lobby promised most of Palestine with indigenous Palestinians copping SFA.
Naturally Palestinians were pissed things had got bad enough when the englanders replaced Ottoman control with englander control, now they were promising most of Palestine to a mob of eurojews. Already those eurojews had begun their terrorism forcing Palestinian land-owners out of all holdings around Jaffa (eventually to be renamed Tel Aviv) which was where Rothchilds had located the first large eurojew ‘settlements’.
The zionists kept up their terrorism against the indigenous Palestinians between the wars as the rise of euro-fascism had resulted in large influxes of eurojews and no amount of entreating london by Palestinian leaders to slow it down had any effect as the englander government didn’t want any more of ‘that lot’ coming to england.
Post WW2 was crazy as the whole of europe expressed concern about death camps ,the warsaw uprising etc but few wanted the problem they believed jews to be in their nation.
So up until this point the zionist entity’s evolution has been imperialism & its bastard brother white supremacy.
Yet the insertion of a relative new component amerika would pervert the zionist project further.
There can be no doubt that amerika’s initial concern was the same as europeans, to ensure that their nation wasn’t ‘flooded’ by even more jews jumping into amerika.
However 1948 when those amerikan zionists approached the Truman crook (even worse a crooked accountant) with a couple of million dollars for his election campaign in return for ensuring that amerika then the UN recognised the zionist entity, something else began, the zionist money go round.
Truman wasn’t meant to win that election; the big boys had backed Thomas Dewey in order to get pols who the elites believed were more likely to listen to wealthy elites into the whitehouse. The irony being of course that Truman was perfectly ready to listen to the ‘concerns’ of the wealthy elites as long as they left the usual brown paper bag with his assistant at the door.
In fact after Eisenhower’s term and some intial hassles zionists had by the 1960s both tweedledum and tweedledee had their hands out to the zionist lobby. Take for example the yarn common nowadays that LBJ sold out the USS Liberty during the 1967 six day war. Can anyone remember rethugs raising it as a major issue in Congress? No cos it didn’t happen as by that time both sides were rooting for the zionist entity and collecting the cash. There are many different yarns from that and one is that Johnson was most upset by what had happened so he leaked some details of the attack on the Liberty to Newsweek. That caused much screaming from zionist lobby and hand-wringing by dims’ political aides. Johnson was eventually mollified by a deal the CIA arranged.
From an”>https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2017/june/spy-ship-left-out-cold”>an article by US Naval Institute:

The day after the attack, Johnson confided to a Newsweek reporter that he believed Israel deliberately attacked the Liberty to prevent her from spying. Israeli officials learned the details of Johnson’s interview within 24 hours and successfully pressured the magazine to water down its planned story. “The Newsweek editorial has made changes in the last proofreading of the news item compared with the original version that I was shown last night,” Patir cabled Jerusalem. “It toned down the version by adding a question mark to the heading, leaving out the words deliberate attack, and leaving out the commentary paragraph that said that the leak is intended to free American policy makers from the pressure of the pro-Israeli public opinion.”
Diplomats also needed to tone down President Johnson. To pressure the President, Israeli officials tapped Justice Fortas and Washington lawyer David Ginsburg to make Johnson “aware of the dangers facing him personally if the public learns that he was party to the distribution of the story that is on the verge of being blood libel.”

One of the earliest examples of the entity playing the holocaust card to amerika, eh.
Syria & Egypt had used some modern Soviet weaponry including their latest ballistic missiles and the idf had recovered one that failed to explode intact, so the Mossad murderers organised for amerikan access to reverse engineer the thing in return for no more ‘fuss’ about USS Liberty. That is what happened cos for those who weren’t around back then, amerikans at that time had been indoctrinated into believing The Cold War© was the biggest cause for concern.
If the deep state, security state, the blob or whatever you prefer had any concerns they were soon assuaged as this money-go-round also furthered what was dear to them; IE amerika’s increasing commitment to imperialism.
It is the lopsided reaction by all who hold power, the determination to keep power will always outweigh whatever principle pol believes is the primary motivation for his/her career.
The reality that the exact same concerns which is why hidden constructs such as the deep state, security state, the blob or whatever you prefer should never be permitted to come into being.
This means that the takeover of amerikan government by zionist interests evolved and likely only truly slipped outta control as the pols’ devotion to their zionist money-laundry brokers caused them to ‘forget’ to keep an eye on other holdings and worse yet spend more time and energy on ensuring they got their share of kickbacks from armaments contractors that they didn’t worry about the quality, quantity or even the capability of said weapons to compete in a contemporary battle space (that last bit was me imagining how the ad-speak silver tongues would describe a current killing field).
It has been the decline of empire as much as the rise of zionist control which has resulted in amerikan pols inability to stand up to the ugly minded creeps who run the zionist entity. So as well as the initial causes I listed above we can also add greed, opportunism, laziness, irresponsibility and spinelessness as being major factors in tails & dogs wagging in unison I reckon.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 9 2024 4:57 utc | 166

Apologies about hyperlink but every time I corrected it all that would happen is last portion of piece from link onwards would disappear. I have enough typos nowdays without typepad gettin in on the act.

Posted by: debsisdead | Oct 9 2024 5:00 utc | 167

@ debs
thanks!
here is the link you are trying to share..
The Spy Ship Left Out in the Cold

Posted by: james | Oct 9 2024 5:09 utc | 168

i hope others take a look at debsisdead post when they wake up where ever the moa crowd is at the moment..

Posted by: james | Oct 9 2024 5:16 utc | 169

“i hope others take a look at debsisdead post when they wake up where ever the moa crowd is at the moment..”
Posted by: james | Oct 9 2024 5:16 utc | 169
It’s a very, very, very long post. But your approval makes me want to eventually read it. So many people think they are so smart that their extremely long posts will be read by everyone. I like Psychohistorian’s advice….keep it simple, keep it “pithy”.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 5:33 utc | 170

Would Israel not know that it is useless to kill an enemy’s leadership? I think they now, but it is just PR. They killed fi. the Hezbollah leader, and very few people ask how many civilians were killed during that action. In the mean time Israel is systematically destroying the Gaza and Lebanon. If it is so completely destroyed that no economic activity is possible, that people are starving, that the only way to survive is to leave then Israel will have achieved its goal. The indirect consequences of all the destructions still need to come and that is the real evil purpose.

Posted by: hubert | Oct 9 2024 5:43 utc | 171

So many people think they are so smart that their extremely long posts will be read by everyone.
Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 5:33 utc | 170
piece a work ain’t ya

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 5:57 utc | 172

@Turdworld | Oct 8 2024 21:50 utc | 78

Some here would draw a closer connection between 9/11 itself and Israel, but what subsequently followed is compatible with the neocons/Zionists simply not believing their luck when 9/11 happened…

There was no luck involved. The official explanation was and is physically impossible, it was a pre-planned distraction. To paraphrase Richard Feynman: “If it disagrees with observation, it’s wrong”.
What occurred on 911 was prepared long time in advance and consistent with neocon/zionist statements of goals, ref. the need for “a new Pearl Harbor” in the PNAC paper of 2000, the year before 911. You cannot get 3 steel structure sky scrapers to fall into their own footprints and largely disappear in a puff of dust by flying 2 aluminium planes into 2 of them. You cannot get hundreds of motor blocks in parking lots hundreds of meters away to “melt” while paper is unaffected, by flying 2 planes into 2 sky scrapers.
It is at best magical thinking to say “the neocons/Zionists simply not believing their luck when 9/11 happened”, because it means you have to deliberately ignore hard physical facts to make such a statement.
Based on the actual facts, the neocons in power, the dancing Israelis and their “Urban Moving System” company van with pre-made mural on the side depicting planes flying into WTC towers, there is no room for doubting that the neocons/Zionists had meticulously planned and executed what happened that day, complete with distraction stories.
22nd July 2011 and 7th October 2023 are demonstrations of the lesson from 911: Neocons/Zionists can get most people to believe and obey the impossible by repeating their lies loud enough and often enough.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 9 2024 6:16 utc | 173

Posted by: reante | Oct 9 2024 5:57 utc | 172
You are certainly a scroll-worthy one.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 6:18 utc | 174

“There was no luck involved. The official explanation [of 9/11] was and is physically impossible.”
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 9 2024 6:16 utc | 173
Yup. That’s all it took to convince me. Every single media figure and westoid politician still pretends the official theory is right, though. Same with JFK and USS Liberty. They are all still full of sheisse.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 6:33 utc | 175

Israel’s best idea would be to spare Iran for last and try to annihilate Hezbollah and Hamas first. Iran should help them more if the don’t want to face the Israhell alone. Lebanon may very well colapse and Yemen’s effort even as heroic as they are can’t put any soldiers on the ground.
Intelligence and air bombing against tunnels and bravery. Where are those pesky stingers that gave Russia so many trouble? Can’t the mighty axis of resistance get a hold of some?

Posted by: Mariátegui | Oct 9 2024 6:40 utc | 176

It is certainly heart -warming to read of Israeli failures and the destruction of the Zionist port facilities and economy. Not to mention that the entity’s population now feels the Terror they have inflicted on their neighbors.
Even better, and more important for us goyim in the Collective West, is that the end of the Zionist State will bring about the end of the Reformed Church lunacy called Christian Zionism. Once those fools are confronted with the Reality that God will not prove them correct, we can go about the serious and necessary business of de-Judaizing our societies. Burn those Schofield Bibles!

Posted by: OldFart | Oct 9 2024 6:47 utc | 177

…. Would Israel not know that it is useless to kill an enemy’s leadership ?…..
The predecessors to today’s Likud have a nearly century long history of assasinations. There is also a fair amount of evidence of numerous intercine killings. Many believe Netanyahu was responsible for the death of Simon Peres.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2024 6:56 utc | 178

we can go about the serious and necessary business of de-Judaizing our societies. Burn those Schofield Bibles!
Posted by: OldFart | Oct 9 2024 6:47 utc | 177

Barbie Dolls have a bigger influence than Bibles.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 9 2024 6:57 utc | 179

https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1843900103565947388
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Today, #Hezbollah fired a missile at one of #Israel’s oil rigs as a warning of what could happen the moment a full-scale Israeli invasion of #Lebanon begins. From that moment on, the population of #Haifa is expected to be displaced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5eXSOwWeI
HIZBULLAH DESTROYS BUILDINGS IN HAIFA | NETANYAHU PLANS “HIS OWN ATTACK” ON IRAN
Mahmood OD

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 9 2024 6:58 utc | 180

Israhellis and Murrican and Latin American right wingers share so much, that the only thing that separates them is the colors of their passports
They hate brown people
They hate poor people
They think israhell must have the right to the land because they wear western pretty suits
They think colonialism is good because economically successful people benefit from it, like their ancestors did and they still do at some extend
They worship militaristic regimes
All of them basically collaborate within their own means. Álvaro Uribe was full of israhellian friends, they trained the contras that fought against FARC. US has the guns but mossad have them from the balls to make sure they do what they would do anyway without coercion

Posted by: Mariátegui | Oct 9 2024 6:59 utc | 181

“Barbie Dolls have a bigger influence than Bibles.”
Posted by: too scents | Oct 9 2024 6:57 utc | 180
That right there is what I call pithy. And true. I would have said “sportsball” or “the media” but I’m clunkier with words.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 7:08 utc | 182

Most heartening post B. According to John Helmer the real damage is being done to the Israeli economy and its credit rating. The longer the conflict goes on, the more Israel has to consider if it is literally worth it?

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Oct 9 2024 7:10 utc | 183

….. The longer the conflict goes on, the more Israel has to consider if it is literally worth it?…..
Doubt the Likud regime will see the light. They might think Masada 2.0 will make them heros forever.
However; Polling shows fully 1/3 of Israelis believe the genocide war is lost. And….
As many as 1 million Israelis have already voted-with-their-feet. Solid numbers are hidden from public, so mostly guesswork. The last hard data point was 1/2 million had left by mid-December, 10 months ago.
Never lose sight that Israeli society is beset by extreme divisions between Askanazis vs. Sephardim vs. Arab Jews vs. Russian Jews vs. Ethiopian Jews. The Likud reigns with brutality over the lesser Jewish ethnics.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 9 2024 7:31 utc | 184

Befair seems to think that describing the 150 year old process of how the zionist entity came into being and the reasons imperialists assisted them should be summed up in two lines no matter how much relevant information is left out. Is that pithy enough for him or is it better I take out all modifiers ie adverbs & adjectives so the post comes across as boring.
What he/she/lavrovs dog doesn’t understand is that leaving out facts reduces all posts to mere opinion, personally it doesn’t matter a fuck what you think, for most others why you think it is more relevant (remember opinions are like arseholes etc) AND we also include our special offer, scroll past if yer too lazy, arrogant or self absorbed to read it. I don’t mind, I’ve just placed the ironically titled ‘be fair’ on my block list, so by all means if you feel inclined to, do the same to me, I doubt anyone will give 2 fucks either way.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 9 2024 7:36 utc | 185

US and Arab states reportedly in talks with Iran for ceasefire on all war fronts
The United States and Arab states have launched covert talks with Iran for a comprehensive ceasefire aimed at calming all war fronts at once, according to an Israeli television report Tuesday.
Channel 12 news reported that Israel is not currently involved in the initiative, but that senior Israeli officials have been informed about it.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-and-arab-states-reportedly-in-talks-with-iran-for-ceasefire-on-all-war-fronts/
What I told you couple of days ago is now officially confirmed.

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 9 2024 7:37 utc | 186

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 9 2024 6:16 utc | 173
It is at best magical thinking to say “the neocons/Zionists simply not believing their luck when 9/11 happened”, because it means you have to deliberately ignore hard physical facts to make such a statement.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 7:43 utc | 187

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 9 2024 7:37 utc | 187
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-and-arab-states-reportedly-in-talks-with-iran-for-ceasefire-on-all-war-fronts/
What I told you couple of days ago is now officially confirmed.
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Well, that article you sites basically says the Hezbollah terrorists have lost everything… is that what you suggested 2 days ago? Or is it just the fact that a ceasefire is being negotiated?

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 7:53 utc | 188

GD Bakshi’s analysis of Iran’s missile capabilties, Israel’s missile defence capabilities and the potential for nuclear war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKWkFVZ4_TI

Israel vs Iran War: Will Israel Strike Iran? Major General (Retd.) GD Bakshi explains how Israel vs Iran War can blow out of proportions bringing China-Russia and US in direct confrontation that would be devastating for the entire world.
In his analysis of Israel-Iran conflict, GD Bakshi uses wargaming methodologies to explore the various military scenarios possible in the war and their implications globally. He assesses both Iran and Israel’s military capabilities, strategic objectives, and the possible outcomes of their actions. He highlight Israel’s technological advantages against Iran’s large forces and asymmetric strategies.

Whatever it’s worth, this represents the best in analysis from the Indian military establishment at least.
The General is generally admiring of Israel’s Intelligence and missile defence capabilities, but I can’t see ultimately where his wargaming analysis goes – it seems somewhat inconclusive. He does delve into the details of what Israel is likely to attempt to strike and in what priority.
Interesting to compare against Martyanov’s take, who generally shits all over Israel’s capabilities, and Ritter’s generally pro-Iranian perspective:
Ritter & Martyanov:
“MISSILES, PLANES, AND SHIPS – WITH SCOTT RITTER AND ANDREI MARTYANOV” https://www.youtube.com/live/x8v5rX22qzM
Ritter is confident that Iran literally “wipes Israel off the map” if Israel attempts a serious attack on Iran.
In the end, the two analysis sort of balance each other out.
Buddha says – “Take the Middle Way”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:02 utc | 189

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 9 2024 7:36 utc | 186
I said I would read it later based on james’ recommendation, jeez. Calm down a little. Not everyone has time to read dissertations in the comments section of a blog any time of day or night.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 8:04 utc | 190

The United States and Arab states have launched covert talks …
Posted by: Framarz | Oct 9 2024 7:37 utc | 187
I tend to stop reading right there. The United States couldn’t “covert talk” itself out of a wet paper bag.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:04 utc | 191

They worship militaristic regimes
All of them basically collaborate within their own means. Álvaro Uribe was full of israhellian friends, they trained the contras that fought against FARC. US has the guns but mossad have them from the balls to make sure they do what they would do anyway without coercion
Posted by: Mariátegui | Oct 9 2024 6:59 utc | 182
They think strip mining an ancient forest is “productive use of the land” and destroying ancient underground water acquifers is “greening the desert”.
Destruction of ancient cultures is called “bringing savages into the new world”.
Yes, I’ve met the type.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:07 utc | 192

Well, that article you sites basically says the Hezbollah terrorists have lost everything… is that what you suggested 2 days ago? Or is it just the fact that a ceasefire is being negotiated?
Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 7:53 utc | 189

Get serious … your polemic is too cheap!

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 9 2024 8:08 utc | 193

Israel’s best idea would be to spare Iran for last and try to annihilate Hezbollah and Hamas first.
Posted by: Mariátegui | Oct 9 2024 6:40 utc | 176
Judging by the last 40 years of progress, if that’s their “best idea” they’re screwed.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:12 utc | 194

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 3:01 utc | 147
I don’t think you are right at all in this case. I will have to think about it some more. Nope. Don’t have to think about much more. The Slavic deaths in Ukraine and Russia outnumber the deaths in Gaza-Lebanon by a full order of magnitude.
Posted by: Be fair | Oct 9 2024 4:08 utc | 156
The difference here is that the Slavic deaths (that outnumber Gazan deaths) are soldiers.
They chose this fate.
The Palestinians did not.
If a million volunteers soldiers die, that’s >>largely<< their chosen fate. No harm. No foul. But to butcher tens of thousands of babies, toddlers, kids, teens … this is a repeating loop of infinite horror.
If the scale of wanton civilian death in Ukraine was on the level of Gaza, I’d agree with you but that is not the case.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:19 utc | 195

Should the population be given two hour’s notice to move out before hand or not ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 8 2024 17:46 utc | 10
They should be given the same warnings the inhabitants of Dahiya were given.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:23 utc | 196

Posted by: Framarz | Oct 9 2024 8:08 utc | 194
Get serious … your polemic is too cheap!
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No it was an honest question… I guess we’ll have to see what happens. Obviously I don’t believe that article, but I don’t recall what your prediction of the terms would be?

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 9 2024 8:24 utc | 197

No, not for Hesbollah or Hamas, but for of simple “Reverence for Life.”

Posted by: js | Oct 9 2024 8:28 utc | 198

Should the population be given two hour’s notice to move out before hand or not ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 8 2024 17:46 utc | 10
They should be given the same warnings the inhabitants of Dahiya were given.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 9 2024 8:23 utc | 198

“Unfortunately” (or maybe fortunately) the resistance and Russia DO NOT use the same evil genocidal tactics and strategy against civilians as US and israel does.
Hence life on Earth for “good people” if much harder that life of “bad people” that can kill torture and threat as they please in order to achieve supremacy.

Posted by: bog | Oct 9 2024 8:31 utc | 199

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 9 2024 4:57 utc | 166
You Da Man!
I always learn something from your posts, thank you.

Posted by: Menz | Oct 9 2024 8:32 utc | 200