Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 10, 2024
Biden’s Intent Is To Sow Chaos – Netanyahoo And Zelensky Are Working For Him

There is a great believe peddled by main stream media that the Biden administration is trying to hold the Zionists   back from their devastating action in Gaza, Lebanon and beyond, but unfortunately fails to do so. Some commentators argue that this is the case because the Israel lobby has a very strong position in U.S. policies and can direct the U.S. government into any direction of its liking.

My hunch is that this is putting the cart before the horse.

It is in fact the Biden administration which is using the Israeli (and Ukrainian) government to serve its foreign policy purposes. As I remarked:

This has been the general theme of a media campaign for a while. "Natanyahoo is steamrolling Biden and the poor guy can do nothing about it."

I do not buy it. One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel. Without constant supply renewal the Israeli Air Force would have to stop its bombing campaigns in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen within days if not within hours.

But instead of calling the Pentagon, the whole Middle East team around Biden, Antony Blinken, Brett McGurk and IDF soldier Amos Hochstein, has been urging Israel to extend its campaign.

They are hoping, like the neoconservatives in 2006 during the Bush administration, for the 'birth pangs of a new Middle East', which will forever change the strategic situation on the ground.

The conclusion from this is that Netanyahoo is largely doing exactly what the Biden administration wants him to do.

Gilbert Doctorow, the well known historian and journalist, is of similar opinion:

More on tails wagging dogs and vice versa


Some viewers/readers support my contention that the United States is using Israel as its proxy in the Middle East and is not just enabling but even directing Israel’s rampage in the region to ‘kick ass’ generally and to reinforce American dominance there in line with American global hegemony. Far from being outraged by the Israeli atrocities, the U.S. government is satisfied to see Israel take revenge for the many humiliations that the United States has suffered in the Middle East, most recently in the disorderly and disgraceful pull-out from Afghanistan but going back, say, 40 years to the hostage taking at the American embassy in Teheran by the new revolutionary Iranian leadership there that overthrew the American backed Shah.

Others in my audience have not hesitated to say that they think I am wrong, and that indeed Prime Minister Netanyahu is leading Joe Biden & Company around by the nose, which just happens to be the consensus view in mainstream media.

Most of this discussion is not visible to the broad public. However, the ‘Judging Freedom’ channel which has 450,000 subscribers and its host, Judge Andrew Napolitano put my proposition on the dog (USA) wagging the tail (Israel) to several of his best-known panelists in the 24 hours following my interview with him. To be sure, my idea seemed so ‘contrarian’ that it demanded a response from the mightiest minds in the alternative media camp. They obliged. With one exception, the mightiest minds were dismissive of my interpretation in more respectful, less respectful ways.

Professor John Mearsheimer and Larry Johnson are two of the guest on the Napolitano show who reject Doctorow's thesis.

However, Doctorow and I are not the only ones delving into this conundrum. Professor of history at Columbia University Adam Tooze, a rather famous commentator, joined us with his current Guardian comment:

Facing war in the Middle East and Ukraine, the US looks feeble. But is it just an act?

There is one school of thought that says the Biden administration is muddling through. It has no grand plan. It lacks the will or the means to discipline or direct either the Ukrainians or the Israelis. As a result, it is mainly focused on avoiding a third world war.

But what if that interpretation is too benign? What if it underestimates the intentionality on Washington’s part? What if key figures in the administration actually see this as a history-defining moment and an opportunity to reshape the balance of world power? What if what we are witnessing is the pivoting of the US to a deliberate and comprehensive revisionism by way of a strategy of tension?

Revisionist powers are those that want to overturn the existing state of things. In an extended sense, this can also mean a desire to alter the flow of events; for instance, to redirect or halt the process of globalisation. Revisionism is often associated with resentment or nostalgia for an earlier, better age.

Tooze digs down into the various action the Biden administration has taken against Russia, China and in the Middle East. He concludes:

In all three arenas – China, Ukraine and the Middle East – the US will say that it is responding to aggression. But rather than working consistently for a return to the status quo it is, in fact, raising the stakes. While insisting that it supports the rules-based order, what we are witnessing is something closer to a revival of the ruinous neoconservative ambition of the 1990s and 2000s.

[T]here is more going on here than simply muddling through. First the Trump and now the Biden presidencies are willing contributors to the controlled demolition of the 1990s post-cold war order.

People seem to have forgotten that Biden was never a liberal in the progressive sense. Since being a freshman in Congress Biden has always been on the conservative side of things:

Alliances With Segregationists

1975: Mr. Biden joined Senator Jesse Helms, a Republican segregationist from North Carolina, in supporting an anti-busing amendment to an education spending bill. When the amendment failed, Mr. Biden wrote a narrower measure that prevented schools from using federal dollars to assign teachers or students by race. It passed, 50-43.

In a television interview, Mr. Biden called busing an “asinine concept” and said he had “gotten to the point where I think our only recourse to eliminate busing may be a constitutional amendment.”

In 2002 Biden was joined at the hip with the neoconservatives when he, as the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, feverishly argued for launching the war on Iraq:

In a speech days before the 2002 [Iraq war] vote, Bush did say approving the resolution “does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable,” but he also laid out in detail why military action “may” be needed. And on the day the war broke out, Biden acknowledged, “We voted to give him the authority to wage that war. We should step back and be supportive.”

When the Biden administration is sowing global chaos the way it currently does, it is acting along a path which Biden has long favored and with the intent to sow chaos, not because this or that outside power is pressing him to do so.

Comments

Israel and Ukraine are outposts of US criminality (organ harvesting, human trafficking, money laundering) and resource extraction and the US is trying to protect these interests. (and has no qualms about using genocide and chemical and biological weapons)
China and Russia (whom the US has no chance against) are trying to dismantle these interests.

Posted by: financial matters | Oct 10 2024 22:42 utc | 301

Regarding BRICS:
It is not a payment system it is a ” savings ” system.
It is not what it is priced in it is what they want to ” save ” in. So if you want to save in Yuan you net export to China. If you want to save in Rubles you net export to Russia. If you want to save in Rupees you net export to India. You build up savings in a basket of currrencies.
It was their “SAVINGS” that was frozen by the West. Their savings after net exporting. So they are going to come up with a way to make their savings safe.
As described HERE:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0cNheCGug
So how do Central banks allow countries to save ? What instruments have they used for the last god knows how many years have central banks used to allow countries to save ?
BONDS !
So it wouldn’t surprise me if they came up with a BRICS bond. No interest rate attached just at par for trade flows. Anybody who saved in these bonds can use them as payments in the BRICS countries.
Or something like that. Central bank digital cash, could be used to save in the same way.
Too many people think it is about payment. See the Duran latest video. It isn’t it is about keeping their savings safe what they earn after net exporting. That is what was stolen.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 22:43 utc | 302

Tom Q Collins, the US deep state used to always be leery of Jewish influence. The NSA and CIA always kept a Anglo-Saxon vote that was skeptical (this according to James Bamford, author of 3 books on the NSA). That may have changed but it used to be true

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 22:45 utc | 303

Adding an interest rate to a BRICS bond that is just used for trade flows will only complicate things.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 22:46 utc | 304

@314 myself
I try to right-spelling & formatting this post :
Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
“.. Basically the glove is off and we go straight to violence and coercion to “get the outcomes we want.”
The so-called ‘Soft-Power’ is a bullshit expression, hereto.
That means, all the currently escalating US-Wars (in UKR + ME) could be won in a “soft” manner, next months.
That’s not true, and won’t be.
All today’s war strategical aims of the US Blackrock/Nuland/Blinken puppets
Any leader who still uses so-called Soft Power or does not go directly to “Fire!” is viewed as weak.
Why is that?
Because “we” have something like Nethan’s Zionist guys still ruling the RoW, incl.all of UN hopeless complaints against Israhell/Zionist’s murderer regime .. PLUS their Folk claiming 90% standing behind “its” Gov.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
.. “The bellicose bluster of a demented Joe Biden not only is pathetic but evokes feelings of horror and disgust on the world stage. ..”
That’s only that it is so far regarding ‘opinions’ – no more no less.
Search for a same like thinking cheap snipers group! You can pay them.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 22:47 utc | 305

@Jo-Oh, #242:

When will the hoped-for salvation come?
Will it come at all?

What did you mean by “Salvation???” If you meant when would someone come, wave His/Her hand, and utters Behold thereby sending the Zionist scurrying off from Palestine, Him/Her would likely (most likely, but I could say forsure) NEVER come. But this kind of “salvation” does have to come to preserve Palestine from being the Dominion of the Zionists.
China has indicated it will send relief personnels and humanitarian supplies to Gaza/Lebanon. When they arrive, there will likely be others, representing themselves individually, or in organized entities, or may even be under mandate of Global South sovereignties. Now, are the Zionists bomb/attack/starve/kill these people? If they do, China will likely get involve in this “salvation” militarily, in term of either military personnels or current-generation weaponries which the Zionists would fear and shit in their pants. Yeah the resistances have used rockets/missiles thus far, moderately so. But there are rockets/missiles, and there are Chinese rockets and missiles. If you have seen drone imitating firework displays you know what Chinese aerial weaponries could do. And these could be directed by Beidou. And these could carry on and on and on!! The Zionists will have to resort to nukes for a MAD outcome, or they will tuck their tails between the legs, kept their mouth shut, and start talking about settlements. SALVATION!!!
You’ll wonder why wouldn’t China do it now? My guess is: why should they? Why should risk MAD for someone who prior to the 70’s even voted time and again against them joining the UN? It was the Arab-block of votes that denied China from winning the 2000 Summer Olympic vote, which ultimately went for Sydney (you see, the Empire even then was very jealous of Chinks and pulled out all stops to keep them from staging a big show at the Millenium!)
Anyway, I think China has seen enough. Enough is enough regardless what have happened prior. When their medical/humanitarian personnels arrive in Palestine, the Middle East picture will change.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2024 22:50 utc | 306

Trump just got shot at – by the elites.
Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Oct 10 2024 19:16 utc | 188
If you mean the ear charade, no, Trump didn’t get shot by anyone. (https://tube.kansanvalta.org/w/hkFj4fUiCH9WzRNzLTTKSM)
The other random shooter is debatable. But why would the elites with all their power send some debilitated old nobody? How many times did Castro evade assassination? What a ridiculously lame attempt in comparison. The same people that assassinated Raisi and all those other Iranian and Hezbollah leaders and exploded thousands of telephones and pagers could only produce a wobbly school kid with a ladder and a grandpa, inside America? Give me a break.
Why do people think the elite are some lovely little knitting club that agrees on everything? You’re implying that Trump can’t be part of the elite since he was shot at by them. That’s like saying that you can’t be American (or whichever your country is) because you got punched in a bar by another American.
If another mafia family did in fact send someone to shoot Trump, so that they could get his juicy position in his place, that has precisely zero to do with explaining anything about Trump. A pedo gangsta doesn’t become a world saving “white hat” by getting shot at by another pedo gangsta. They’re still all serving the untouchable satanist elite at the top.
And that’s assuming that the pathetically fake shooting clown show was real.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 10 2024 22:55 utc | 307

Moonie 226, the reason is, as the Declaration of Independence says. All governments get their power from the consent of the governed, not just democracies, all governments are ultimately democratic and only exist with the consent of the sheeple

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 22:58 utc | 308

meanwhile back at the genocide ranch
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-seizes-unrwa-headquarters-east-jerusalem
Israel seizes Unrwa headquarters’ land in occupied East Jerusalem
Announcement comes as Knesset pushes forward bill to ban refugee agency activities in Israel and occupied territories
Israel has confiscated land on which the headquarters of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (Unrwa) is located in Jerusalem, with plans to build 1,440 settlement units on the site.
According to Israel Hayom, the free daily newspaper, the Israel Land Authority announced the confiscation of the land in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood in occupied East Jerusalem…..
https://x.com/CAIRNational/status/1844411217021943960
CAIR National @CAIRNational
CAIR has officially designated @nyuniversity and @NorthwesternU as Institutions of Particular Concern, calling out their aggressive actions in suppressing the voices of students and faculty opposing the genocide in Gaza. Students advocating for Palestinian rights have faced disciplinary action, intimidation, and threats to their academic standing. We urge those committed to justice and human rights to consider institutions that truly respect freedom of speech and stand with those targeted for speaking out against oppression.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2024 22:59 utc | 309

I could be wrong, it won’t be first time. I can’t wait to see what they come up with and what instruments they choose to save in.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 23:01 utc | 310

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 10 2024 22:55 utc | 325
Yeah, a lot also suffer from TDS expanded as Trump *Delusion* Syndrome.

Posted by: Turdwolrd | Oct 10 2024 23:03 utc | 311

I broadly agree with b and Tooze, but Biden isn’t really ‘in control’ anymore, is he? Unless the senility is an act too (nothing would surprise me these days)… But, working with prima facie details (which now also seems naive but hey…), we really need a list of the top 10 individuals in the USA making the decisions. In other words, a prosopography of elite power in the US and their connections, networks, etc.
What is the dramatis personae of empire if we exclude Biden?

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 10 2024 23:07 utc | 312

Dogs are a better species than humans, the latter which have proven through their actions against each other and against Nature they have no right to exist. Extinction is inevitable for all species, but humans with their giant egos are doomed to self extinction. Good riddance … let Nature start over with a new process of evolution.
Posted by: norecovery | Oct 10 2024 21:47 utc | 281

I vote for cats, predators but much better and moral than humans 🙂
However it is unlikely that the “shadow group” of real oligarchs ruling the planet whats extinction for them self.
They can agree with the extinction of most life and extinction for most humans.
(useless eaters anyway)
BUT they do intend to continue to live an propagate their POWER and maybe just maybe keep alive 50+ million “slaves” to serve and protect 😀
And when they emerge from their bunkers they do plan to re-build the “civilization” exactly as they want it… without the nuisance of Russia and China or other “power groups”.
There was this “sad joke” about 2 bacteria talking after nuclear armageddon watching the planet go up in nukes:
Bacteria_1: We will survive this an rebuild life…
Bacteria_2: Yes, but please make “NO BRAIN” this time, so no nukes later, deal?

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 23:07 utc | 313

‘The backbone of Israel’s support in the United States is the evangelical Christians. It’s true because of numbers, and also because of their passionate and unequivocal support for Israel…. About 25% of Americans — some people think more — are Evangelical Christians. Less than 2% of Americans are Jews…. . . .
Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 22:16 utc | 304
This is why Netanyahu made a point of strategically “pivoting” to US Evangelicals about 10–15 years ago in his PR and propaganda campaign to get them behind the Zionist program.
Netanyahu understands US politics very well. He spent long portions of his youth and young adulthood in the US. He studied and got undergraduate and advanced degrees in the US. His first “job” in the political arena was when he was mentored in the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC, by Ambassador Moshe Arens. He is really as American as Israeli. So he has a good grasp of power politics in the USA. (BTW, Arens is a figure whose C.V. all bar flies should familiarize themselves with. See his bio, In Defense of Israel, Brookings Institution Press, 2018. His life and career provide excellent examples of the enmeshment of US and Israeli politics since the beginning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Arens)
Anyhow, Netanyahu made strategic moves toward getting America’s Evangelicals actively into the Zionist camp. He knew he had to get this larger slice of the American population behind the Zionist cause.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 23:10 utc | 314

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2024 22:50 utc | 322
Anyway, I think China has seen enough. Enough is enough regardless what have happened prior. When their medical/humanitarian personnels arrive in Palestine, the Middle East picture will change.
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Got to love your idealistic optimism anyway.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 10 2024 23:12 utc | 315

That’s only that it is so far regarding ‘opinions’ – no more no less.
Search for a same like thinking cheap snipers group! You can pay them.
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 22:47 utc | 321
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You are very hostile and ou don’t make a lot of sense.
So, not bothering to respond.
Have a nice evening.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 23:13 utc | 316

Haven’t read many of the comments but Gruff’s #137 is correct. We are not dealing with clever Bond-villain level masterminds. We are watching ineptitude, incompetence and historically un-self-reflexive dickheads scramble to get toothpaste back into the tube.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 10 2024 23:15 utc | 317

Jane @332
To your point, I would go further and argue the Christian Zionists made Netanyahu and he’s been working steadfastly at aligning Israel with the CZ agendas.

Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 23:19 utc | 318

Dog. Tail. Bear with me barflies , I’m a bit woozy.
I see that more as a chicken/egg perspective. What came first?
Of course the young , imperilist colony planted in the Levant , only seriously planned once the Red army had halted and was on the retaliation against the fascist imperialism , can’t posssibly be the dog. It has no population. Culture or history. It is but a stringy mangey tail.
But then again neither does the imperilist colony planted on the Americas, which let’s not forget, is still a mere sapling of not even 250 years. Less in terms of its continental expansion during that time. Just a fatter tail I suppose. But with a bite. A rattle snake?
It is the last major AngloEuropean imperial nation.
Likewise I am of the inkling that the current escalation in the west Asia and now the next phase- signalled by the king of Japan Emanuel- was a response to the failure of the spring offensive and the err.. retaliation by the current ‘Red Army’.
A means of running around like cornered rats looking for a way out. And boy do they fight dirty!
But wholly agree that it is going to fail as well. Again and this time finally.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 10 2024 23:20 utc | 319

I disagree with this take. Biden at this point has no Foreign Policy concerns. He is packing his bags for a retirement home. The fact is both parties are aligned with Israel even when against their parties interests. One might ask who is it that controls both parties and its foreign policy? Except for Ukraine both parties have had similar foreign policies, suggesting that whatever or whoever controls the US might be split into 2 factions.
In any event, whatever this group is its supportive of what Israel is doing. Is the tail wagging the dog or vice versa. I doubt it matters.
Israel is a creation of the Anglo American Establishment to provide their Empire a Foothold in the Middle East and prevent Arab Nationalism from recreating a new Ottoman Empire in control of much of the worlds Oil.
Israel and the US are united. It matters not which party is in power. The 2 parties today are akin to the difference between the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks. Republicans are the Bolsheviks, akin to the Likud Party in Israel. They are backed by the Accelerationist/Dark Enlightenment go fast faction of the real power as opposed to the Altruistic /Fabian go slow faction
If you think things a crazy today wait until you see what 2025 brings if the Accelerationists get another go at

Posted by: Pft | Oct 10 2024 23:21 utc | 320

It’s a stretch to presume that Biden has any coherent thoughts on foreign policy matters, such as sowing chaos. More likely, he is following vague pro-war inclinations that he has long possessed. Or he may be completely out of the decision-making loop.

Posted by: Rob | Oct 10 2024 23:22 utc | 321

@Jane | Oct 10 2024 23:10 utc
Jane: I hope you’ll take time to educate all of us more on the Zionist-Christian-Fundamentalist recruitment.
I trace it back Reagan; seems like that’s where the Republican-Christian-fundamentalism “deal” was made. Silent Majority, Billy Graham, etc. all made the scene there.
Bush Jr., the college playboy and silver-spoon Reserve Pilot, also did a “miraculous” swerve toward Born-Again, right about the time he was tooling up for his role in the Bush Dynasty’s operations.
And about that time, I noticed a distinct change in Christian attitudes toward Israel. May have been about the time the Media consolidation occurred.
I think some sort of deal got made between Zionists and Christians, in pursuit of political power that neither group had a lock upon.
But I haven’t studied it enough, and I hope you’ll educate the bar on the subject. Others, if you’ve got insights, please share.
Something “fundamental” changed about the Christian-Zionist relationship somewhere around Reagan’s administration, and intensified thereafter.
It wasn’t always the way it is now. (that is, the Christian fundamentalists and the Zionists).

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 10 2024 23:23 utc | 322

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 22:47 utc | 320
.. So this would include ‘born psychopaths’ as well as those whose condition might stem from their childhood experiences, but not people who do not show symptoms of ASPD until later in life. ..
referring to Honzo | Oct 10 2024 22:47 utc | 320
Thanks for your more ‘psychological explanation’, I’m thinking of that to having explained something that’s currently ongoing in ME/Israel IDF war devillish leaders.
I don’t know, whether the figures are correct as You said:
“.. And no, 99.99% of people are not sociopaths. And a simple Google search will show that psychopaths are well known to gravitate to positions of power. ..”
I’d like to add hereto, that also some subversive, “religious” power in background – other than Christ and Islam – are manifested in their US/Zionists brains, that You/we never will can erase in their “heads”.
If You/we would say we need a fight now to rescue ouselves, I don’t know what to answer and to fight on ..
I don’t know – You don’t know (Western MSMs are not on ‘our’ side). Even Putin and S-Africa is out-of advice on today’s Mossad/Zionist ongoing genocid, take a new turn !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 23:24 utc | 323

“Joseph Nye popularized the concept of “soft power” in the late 1980s. For Nye, power is the ability to influence the behavior of others to get the outcomes you want.”
Without having to resort to “hard [military] power,” obviously.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
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In other words, soft power is war by other means. Nothing changes, what is the difference between “soft power” and “politics” when the other side can’t refuse? Ask a Democratic Party liberal what the coup in the Maidan Coup 2014 was, and they will tell you it was an attempt at Soft-Power. For these brain-dead liberals, the elected government of Ukraine ONLY was responsible for the violance on February 23, 2014.
Go to Google and input the Maidan Coup and look at the results. It is a wall of denial that the coup was a coup for many, many pages. These lies are a part of the “soft-Power” sale to liberals: well if they don’t kill anyone, give them a cookie Nuland.
I remember taking a trip from Houston to Boston in 1989 and listening to NPR on the radio. The story was about how “soft-power” was the new, and better, strategy to be used by US foreign policy in the future. In fact, all color revoluations are just an attamp to use “soft power” to remove a goverment “[w]ithout having to resort to “hard [military] power,” obviously: Unless it dosen’t work, then you get the May 2, 2014 violance in Odessa and the snippers in March 23, 2014.
Jane, soft power was not corrupted, it is what it was designed to be by its “liberal” creator’s: A war by other means.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 10 2024 23:25 utc | 324

In summary we have three theories:
1. The Israeli Tail Wags the US Dog
2. The US Dog wags the Israeli Tail
3. A self wagging US Dog and Israeli Tail
The response to the Iranian missile attack on Israel could theoretically be used to asses which of these 3 theories are correct.
If Israeli attacks Iranian oil facilities driving up oil prices during a Biden re-election year then theory 1 would be proven.
If Israel doesn’t retaliate or attacks non energy targets then theory 2 would be proven.
With any Israeli retaliation between these two proving theory 3.

Posted by: Tiglath | Oct 10 2024 23:29 utc | 325

…the “out of control” Israeli government…
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-peacekeepers-lebanon-say-we-are-staying-despite-israeli-attacks-2024-10-10/
UN peacekeepers in Lebanon say ‘we are staying’ despite Israeli attacks
YARZE, Lebanon/UNITED NATIONS, Oct 10 (Reuters) – United Nations peacekeepers are determined to remain at their posts in southern Lebanon, the force’s spokesperson said on Thursday, despite Israeli attacks in recent days that have wounded U.N. personnel and prompted international alarm.
Andrea Tenenti said Israeli attacks on the peacekeeping force known as UNIFIL with tank shells and small arms fire had left two wounded members in hospital and knocked out some of their monitoring capabilities on Wednesday and Thursday.
…The force’s 50 contributing countries had agreed on Thursday to keep deploying more than 10,400 peacekeepers between the Litani River in the north and the U.N.-recognized boundary between Lebanon and Israel known as the Blue Line in the south…..
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-says-israeli-government-out-of-control-after-attack-on-un-peacekeepers-seizure-of-unrwa-hq-massacre-at-gaza-school/
CAIR Says Israeli Government ‘Out of Control’ After Attack on UN Peacekeepers, Seizure of UNRWA HQ, Massacre at Gaza School
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today condemned the “out of control” Israeli government after its seizure of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) headquarters in Jerusalem, massacre of 28 Palestinians at a school at Deir al-Balah, and attack on UN peacekeepers in Lebanon…..
28 were killed after Israeli forces attacked a school at Deir al-Balah. The attack reportedly killed several children.
…In a statement, CAIR Deputy Executive Director Edward Ahmed Mitchell said:
“The Israeli government is completely out of control because President Biden refuses to stop funding and arming their war crimes……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2024 23:30 utc | 326

The Dog has NO tail ….
‘Israel’ Has Already Lost
‘Israel’ has lost military control of Palestine and are completely dependent on America now. They would crumple in a day without American support and thus have no independent existence at all. The non-entity is a non-entity. Not really worth talking about anymore. The Axis of Resistance has already defeated ‘Israel’ and is now fighting America, the final boss of imperialism.
The late, great Sayyed Nasrallah called it right after the Al Aqsa Flood. He said the rebellion of October 7th “exposed the frailty, weakness and total fragility of Israel. More frail than a spider’s web.” As Nasrallah continued,
The swift response by the United States to support and back Israel has proven how Israel is failing. From the very first days of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, against a totally besieged Gaza Strip, the Israeli government was in a dire need for the US fleets to navigate to the Mediterranean for military and psychological support. Where is your fleet? Where are your warplanes? Where is the invincible army of Israel, the mightiest in the region? Where is all that?
[…] Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the same thing in his eulogy for Nasrallah, nearly a year later,
Surely, this Zionist and American dream is a vain, unattainable delusion. The [Zionist] regime is like “an evil tree, uprooted from the ground,” which according to God’s true words, “lacks any stability” (Quran 14:26).
This malicious regime is rootless, fallacious, and unstable, and it has only managed to stand on its feet with difficulty with US support. And God willing, this too will not last for long. The clear reason for this statement is that for a year now, despite spending several billion dollars in Gaza and Lebanon, and despite the comprehensive support given by the United States and several other Western governments, the enemy has failed in its confrontation with several thousand fighters and mujahid on the path of God, who are besieged and blocked from receiving any assistance from the outside. The only thing it [the Zionist regime] has been able to do is to bomb homes, schools, hospitals, and centers with a dense unarmed population.
[…] Both of these Resistance leaders talk about ‘Israel’s’ collapse as something in the future, but I argue that it has already happened. Before October 7th, ‘Israel’ could pretend to be a real country, capable of not just defending itself but offending everyone in the region. Now it’s reduced to committing terrorist attacks and assassinations. ‘Israel’ can only drop American bombs from American planes and go run and hide under America’s skirt.
https://indi.ca/israel-has-already-lost/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 10 2024 23:31 utc | 327

Russian rep to UN: “The desire of some UN Security Council members not to put the United States in an awkward position is hindering the adoption of important decisions on resolving the situation in the Middle East.”
That is an intriguing statement, which may refer to a United For Peace resolution in the General Assembly, which appears the logical next step and will surely isolate the United States in a way not seen before. I would think any smaller state seeking to initiate such a measure would have already been threatened with very serious consequences, but the suggestion here is the wrangling is at a higher level.
Any EMP strike on Iran triggered with a nuclear device would be considered a use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction – which remains the biggest of all international taboos. Israel would not survive long as a functioning state if it proceeded with such a plan. The US would not be able to protect or cover for them. This is a certainty even leaving aside the soon to be announced defence pact with Russia, which massively complicates whatever plan Israel may be cooking up. And leaving aside the upcoming BRICS meeting, which any large-scale attack on Iran would be understood as a destabilizing manoeuvre directed in part at that grouping. The US / UK prefer devious and clever “tricks” which allow them degrees of deniability. They will not permit an act of hot-headed stupidity from which there will be no return.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 10 2024 23:34 utc | 328

Of course if , like the US and the Islamists , you measure success in terms of testosterone , rather than justice, your destruction of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, and now Palestine will be seen by the Right-wing dinosaurs as constructive murder and a re-defining of morality in terms of the survival of the fittest, evolutionary Darwinism.
The thing about Compromat is that following Satan , as the Neocons and Islamists do, is empowering. The Muslim Brotherhood can proudly say about its Let’s Both Make It Happen,
LBMIHOP on Oct 7 that the assault on Palestine has brought Palestinians and Israelis closer to Death, enabling them to have a richer understanding of the real meaning of life.
Our compromat, our shame, we’re proud of it. And we’re also richer by it.
Our Muslim and American combined testosterone has , as b says, empowered political change, and greatly for the worse.
What Biden thinks is that the US , with its hyper-interest borrowing power and Islamist testosterone continue to pick up small countries and throw them against the wall with impunity.
The reverse is true. It is enabling the long overdue removal of Western institutions of Justice like the UN, ICC and ICJ and their replacement by new institutions.
If salt loses its flavour, with what will you salt it? If the Islamists work for Satan, where will you find Islam?
The answer is staring us in the face. Now that political Islam has finally shot its bolt and with the help of USUKIS destroyed Palestine, alternative Muslim alliances with alternative superpowers will have to repair these crimes against God and humanity.
Tbis year’s Nobel Peace Prize goes to ………..Joe Biden and ………Political Islam.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 10 2024 23:39 utc | 329

@346 jayc
Pls don’t forget that UN/UNSC’X’ won’t NEVER help to solve any Israel’s ongoing gonicide attacks on its neighbors (Gaza+Lebanon+Golan-Syria) rather than by “WORDS” !
Even some UN troops have lost their lives just recently in the Israel/Zionist’s wstill ongoing attacks on Lebanon, there is & won’t be ANY effective reply on the grounds to hinder a new further ongoing Genocids also against Lebanon people.
What You think will happen if all ‘Arab States’ will further only ‘look & feel’ about the dying Palestine + Lebanon folks around them ?
Even Russia, China plus Turkey do not move a single finger move avoiding that Genocide in ME !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 23:49 utc | 330

Posted by: John | Oct 10 2024 20:58 utc | 249
You have no clue what the word “bolshevik” means.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 10 2024 23:58 utc | 331

@ spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 23:49 utc | 348
What UN troops have lost their lives?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:01 utc | 332

Irish@304…..where I’m from we call those Evangelical Christians, Protestants. Was the biggest suprise of my life to see Star of David flags flying all over Protestant districts and towns …..know them by their deeds, just because one claims one thing while one claims the opposite they are joined by their hateful deeds and their support of outright genocide.
Trying to pass one off as better than, or more benign than the other is just being part of their disingenuous plan.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Oct 11 2024 0:04 utc | 333

The Islamist beef with Shi’a Islam is mainly about the Shi’a permitting young people and travellers limited sexual , licenced freedoms. While the Sunni Royals send their sons to England to sow their wild oats.
The Sunni mullah in Birmingham once declared that what Muslims did with non-Muslims was ‘ between them and Allah.’1 He wasn’t going to condemn them.
All human beings are the same, not this ridiculous sectarianism is that our raping of Yazidi or English girls is rewardful while your watching porn is going to send you to hell.
We have had thousands of priestly hypocrisy. Do these Islamist fake imams really think we haven’t had Catholic and Protestant men of God telling us what to do for centuries while they make sectarian war and rape children in God’s name?
Fuck off you self-righteous arseholes! If you want to empower USUKIS to destroy the Muslim world , your compromat is the door mat we wipe our dirty shoes on.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 11 2024 0:07 utc | 334

Posted by: Darma | Oct 10 2024 7:29 utc | 257
“As for the COVID-19 vaccines, they are the result of rigorous scientific research, peer-reviewed studies, and clinical trials.”
Slightly true, only if you count it as the largest clinical trial in history with a test group of 2 billion and a control group of most of Africa and other places too poor to get the vaccine. Alex Berenson’s substack documents much of the non-standard procedures and tainted data sets used to make it seem safe.

Posted by: Paranaense | Oct 11 2024 0:13 utc | 335

Posted by: John | Oct 10 2024 20:58 utc | 249
You have no clue what the word “bolshevik” means.
Posted by: JAB | Oct 10 2024 23:58 utc | 349
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In Russian, the term “Bolshevik” literally means “majority” whereas “Menshevik” means “minority”.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 0:13 utc | 336

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:01 utc | 350
“What UN troops have lost their lives?
Your question answered:
UN ‘Peacekeepers’ attacked in Lebanon bombings

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 0:16 utc | 337

@Giyane
Your most recent comment is, I think unavoidably, quite impressionistic, but all the same on the right track qua intuition. I think this is the best, shall we say ‘hermeneutical,’ explanation of texts, whether written or audiovisual, one has been exposed to with regard to the phenomenon in question (namely Oct 7). Yes, mendacity is of the essence to this project, but intuition and logical heuristics remain powerful, indeed indispensable, tools of revelation here. However in order for this strategy to work in the present context, one must a priori assume the worst of all principal actors.

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 11 2024 0:26 utc | 338

@ spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 0:16 utc | 355
My answer is better and it’s actually true. No UN troops have lost their lives.
. . .spare us your truth. . .

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:26 utc | 339

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:01 utc | 350
“What UN troops have lost their lives?
So now, You’ve ‘studied’ and prooven that of my “info source Aljazeera” to that issue, I think that’s believing something like true also for You so far.
Question remains: What You think is UN/Security Council doing now?
I give you the answer: UN Security Council woll do NOTHING ! Stood that ?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 0:30 utc | 340

@spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 0:30 utc | 358
Do us a favor, pack your bags and get out of here. Liars not wanted.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:37 utc | 341

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 0:26 utc | 357
“My answer is better and it’s actually true. No UN troops have lost their lives.
. . .spare us your truth. . .”

That’s great. But I don’t You to spare the truth.
What’s Your answer now? No one of UN Security Council dead-shot but only wounded, but what’s now to say ..?
Attack is an attack, having been iniated from whoever ..
When I’d attack You at home yesterday by a knife or something like a Luger or Walter, what You’ve thought about, when You’ve being escaped by Your naked body in the night ..?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 0:39 utc | 342

To your point, I would go further and argue the Christian Zionists made Netanyahu and he’s been working steadfastly at aligning Israel with the CZ agendas.
Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 23:19 utc | 336
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The theory that Christian Evangelicals made Netanyahoo does not sound very robust. Evidence?
What do you mean by “made”?
Have you read Net’s bio?
You use the terms “Christian Zionists” and “Christian Evangelicals” interchangeably. They are not.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 0:40 utc | 343

meanwhile Back to the Future war crimes tribunals
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/33598
🇮🇱 Chancellor of Germany, Olaf Schulz: “We supplied Israel with weapons. We will continue to supply Israel with weapons. Soon there will be new shipments of weapons. This is the position of the government in Germany.”
https://x.com/SOMO/status/1844347168259448848
SOMO @SOMO
(1/4 🧵)🚨 BREAKING 🚨 We are suing the Dutch state for failing to prevent genocide in #Gaza and to uphold international law. Learn about our demands in this thread ⬇️ and read more about the case here: ↩️
https://www.somo.nl/suing-dutch-state-for-failing-to-prevent-genocide-in-gaza/
“…The coalition’s main requests to the Dutch civil court include a ban on the export and transit of weapons, weapon parts, and dual-use items to Israel and a ban on all Dutch trade and investment relations that help maintain Israel’s unlawful occupation and colonisation of Palestinian territory….”
✊Today, a coalition of Palestinian and Dutch civil society organisations filed a complaint in The Hague against the Dutch government. Our message is clear: ⚠️Let’s cut Dutch ties with genocide ⚠️
https://x.com/UN_HRC/status/1844397019907191130
United Nations Human Rights Council | 📍#HRC57 @UN_HRC .@UN
Commission of Inquiry says in a new report that #Israel has perpetrated a concerted policy to destroy #Gaza’s healthcare system; war crimes & crimes against humanity committed in treatment of Palestinian detainees & Israeli & foreign hostages…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 11 2024 0:41 utc | 344

The backbone of Israel’s support in the United States is the evangelical Christians. It’s true because of numbers, and also because of their passionate and unequivocal support for Israel…. About 25% of Americans — some people think more — are Evangelical Christians. Less than 2% of Americans are Jews…. . . .
Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 22:16 utc | 304
Yes. If it weren’t for those damn Christians, the Israeli’s would never hurt those Palestinian women and children! Clearly, the Zionazis have no agency. They’re simply puppets of the Christians!
Obviously being sarcastic here. Read Baud a little. The Christians haven’t been in charge of the US for at least the last 30 years.
Be here now, motherfucker!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 11 2024 0:42 utc | 345

Honest question here (I know, that sounds like typical fake “concern” question, but it isn’t):
why do some of the most articulate and well-read Marxist or Marxist-adjacent posters here support Trump more than Harris? I offer William Gruff as one example, but there are others. I can only think that true populism, as epitomized by Huey Long in the 1930s in Louisiana, was much closer to actual working-class values and interests than were the policies of FDR and the establishment Democratic Party even back then. Trump is certainly no Huey Long, but its an example.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 0:45 utc | 346

@b
I am sorry, but the notion that Biden is the Sith Lord presiding over Ukraine and Israel debacles in ludicrous.
Biden can’t even preside over his own party.
Now, if you wanted to say that the Deep State, neocon version, has taken over Biden’s teleprompter – that is at least believable. But then again, how is this different than before he was deposed from the US Presidency for 2024?
Nor is it very credible that Biden is making Netanyahu dance to Biden’s tune, as opposed to the other way around. The Zionists may be a lot of things, but being suicidal puppets is not one of them.
No, the existential gamble they are taking now is all their own choice.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 11 2024 0:46 utc | 347

Jim C 138, don’t be stupid, those are real asylum seekers with legit claims. The US has been rampaging across South and Central America for centuries. There are real consequences for that.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:46 utc | 280
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Thank you Scottindallas , I am sick and tired of hearing the MAGA crowd bellyaching about “illegal immigrants” while they continue to vote for the bastards in the West who wage war in the immigrants’ countries. Don’t like the immigrants, stop trying to overthrow their fucking governments, both in Latin America and in the Middle East.
The best that I could hope for is that, i.e. Carma will punish the bastards who hate immigrants by someday making them immigrants themselves. If you don’t fight against the hawks that make the immigrants flee their beloved country, then you are a fucking chicken and a worthless human being: Forgive my French.
Even in a Bourgeois democracy, you can struggle for justice.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 0:46 utc | 348

Ludovic 356
Thanks for your reply. I worked as an electrician at a small Islamic Girls school in a town where jihadism is popular and from which several patsies have come.
The IT engineer had set up a contract with an Israeli security firm and a camera had been placed at the entrance to the girls’ toilets.
This man very blatantly despised my anti Jihadist stance during the Syrian / Libyan wars when Al Qaida was directly working for USUKIS , so I challenged him about the Isrseli spyware.
In the light of Israel targeting resistance and medics in Gaza by their mobiles, was my objection to Israeli spyware in a girls school justified?
These South Asian people are simply admirers of British and US Power.
I hope recent events have changed their idiotic admiration of Israel and USUKIS But I very much doubt they are capable of change after 300 years of worshipping Western domination.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 11 2024 0:49 utc | 349

Biden reminds me of John McCain, who spent the last few DAYS of his life lobbying Congress for more death and destruction. The older a sociopath gets, and the closer to the end of their life, the greater the urge to carry out as much wretchedness as possible before they lose their chance. For normal people, it’s the opposite…but sociopaths are not normal.

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Oct 11 2024 0:54 utc | 350

Jane, soft power was not corrupted, it is what it was designed to be by its “liberal” creator’s: A war by other means.
Posted by: Ed | Oct 10 2024 23:25 utc | 342
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Sez you.
But not everyone is so reductionist.
Ed, recognizing and cultivating the power of soft power implies different goals from the unilateral goals of war.
Goals that can be achieved via soft power are compromise (reached via diplomacy) and willing cooperation because of positive results. Enough win-win for all. When I wrote that the US’s soft power was in the toilet I think it was clear that this actually means a loss of genuine influence in the world.
BTW, Ed, I did not say that soft power had been “corrupted.”
That does not make sense.
I said that institutions had been corrupted.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 0:54 utc | 351

clue 365
365 days of genocide and the Potus has no power. Power is nothing to do with truth. It’s having the phone number of the guy who can fix it for you. Or as Craig Murray often points out, you dont have to tell people to do things because they already know what is required for them to do.

Posted by: Giyane | Oct 11 2024 0:57 utc | 352

The Zionists may be a lot of things, but being suicidal puppets is not one of them.
No, the existential gamble they are taking now is all their own choice.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 11 2024 0:46 utc | 365
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You really are C1ue-less, arn’t you. No one is making Netanyahu dance to Biden’s tune, they are dancing the genocide tango together in lock step: Biden is just trying to get Harris elected while they dance, so the show must go on. Trump is really the odd man out, he is too clumsey to dance. He is a braggard who must tell the world everything.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 0:58 utc | 353

Everywhere in the ‘Global South’, perceptions of the dynamics in the ‘Middle East’ are changing… this is somewhat important.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/iran-makes-usas-biggest-arab-ally-change-sides-with-nuclear-bomb-test-oil-attack-threat-israel-101728529205781-amp.html

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 0:59 utc | 354

@ 303 lex
thanks.. i share a similar view..
@ 346 jayc
thanks for this info..

Posted by: james | Oct 11 2024 1:01 utc | 355

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 11 2024 0:41 utc | 362
..”Commission of Inquiry [ref. United Nations Human Rights Council] says in a new report that #Israel has perpetrated a concerted policy to destroy #Gaza’s healthcare system; war crimes & crimes against humanity committed in treatment of Palestinian detainees & Israeli & foreign hostages..”
Dear friend, You are living not on or out-of this earth’s reality – why?
Because among other issues, You seem not to have understood that any UN-Security Courts in DenHaague or any “Human Rights Concil” worldwide will NOTHING have to say causing any consequences against Israhell’ curently operating Nazi-Government.
You & I could only stop that Nethan-Nazi Gov by forcing to announce new elections asap. – but that won’t occur.
So, all You’ve said and referred to, all that won’t change anyting. Believe me.
The only way is to ‘counter attack’ that Israel’s Zionist Mr. Nethan-Nazi by same ‘methods’ he’s doing just now.
>> Go into the very latest confrontation to him – Now !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 1:04 utc | 356

12 Military Vehicles and a Truck – Resistance Roundup – Day 370
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/12-military-vehicles-and-a-truck-resistance-roundup-day-370/
Comments:
Southern Front – entire IDF Company anhilated, a half dozen additional firefights (squad and platoon sized)
Eastern Front – radio silence
Northern Front – Likud still throwing poorly trained IDF fighters against the Lebanese Fortress. Starting to feel like the Somme 1916.
Merkava Tally plus 1 destroyed, plus 2 or 3 damaged
225 Destroyed
665 Damaged (approx)

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2024 1:09 utc | 357

Russia killing Zelenski changes little, and killing heads of state sets a bad precedent.
To Russia, the preferred outcome is when the Americans kill Zelenski.
This could be a learning moment for US allies.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 10 2024 19:17 utc | 191
You would think so, WRT U.S. allies learning but they did not learn when the U.S. blob turned on Manuel Noriega or Sadam Hussein….nor when the U.S. blob committed an act of terrorism by blowing up Nordstream pipelines thus dooming to a large extent the German economy. What people are learning in “the West” is that the people exercising political power don’t give a tinker’s damn about the people in the countries in “the West” and it’s starting to show in elections, rigged as they have always been. Sorry for the runon sentence. WRT who is control of the actions in Israel, Gaza, Lebanon etc, I’d maintain that it does not matter…..the results are the same and expending time and energy on this issue solves nothing…it just needs to stop, by force if necessary! And eventually it will. The U.S. empire in its death throes can still do remarkable damage….for people looking for a political solution, I think that’s naive. Adopting a principled positions against monsters without principles or human decency seems to never work.

Posted by: Giuseppe | Oct 11 2024 1:11 utc | 358

Forgot to mention:
Southern Front- Surprising use of IDF of thin skinned vehicles. Third time observed in last month. Suggests a lack of armor IFVs, APCs.

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2024 1:13 utc | 359

Oriental Voice | Oct 10 2024 22:50 utc | 322 writes:
“Anyway, I think China has seen enough. Enough is enough regardless what have happened prior. When their medical/humanitarian personnels arrive in Palestine, the Middle East picture will change.”
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It will be interesting to see how China reacts when the Zionazis start shooting at them.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 11 2024 1:13 utc | 360

getting ready for the big fight – the showdown at the O.K. Corral
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/10955
Middle East Spectator
— 🇮🇶/🇮🇷/🇮🇱/🇺🇸 NEW: Abu Ali Al-Askari, head of Kata’eb Hezbollah’s Security Bureau in Iraq, warns that any aggression against Iraq or the use of its airspace for an attack on Iran would lead to retaliation against Israeli targets and American bases in the region.
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1844419822542835772
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️⭕️ Iraq: #Hezbollah Brigades Security Official:
Our Response to Any Targeting of Our Country or Use of Our Lands or Skies to Strike #Iran Will Not Be Limited to “Israel” but Will Extend to Washington’s Bases and Interests in Iraq and the Region
We Will Not Start an Energy War, But If It Starts, the World Will Lose 12 Million Barrels a Day, and We Will Take Care of It
This is what we will take care of, but what our brothers in #Yemen will do in Bab al-Mandab and our brothers in #Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, only God knows

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 11 2024 1:15 utc | 361

” I am sick and tired of hearing the MAGA crowd bellyaching about “illegal immigrants” while they continue to vote for the bastards in the West who wage war in the immigrants’ countries.”
Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 0:46 utc | 366
Oh sure Ed, MAGA is waging wars in India and Mexico and Haiti and Guatemala. Sure. Anyone who speaks out against the rapidly accelerating demographic changes and the resultant stresses on community resources, wages, and infrastructure like schools and public assistance are all just “HATERS!”. Nothing more, they just “hate!”.
“The best that I could hope for is that, i.e. Carma will punish the bastards who hate immigrants by someday making them immigrants themselves. If you don’t fight against the hawks that make the immigrants flee their beloved country, then you are a fucking chicken and a worthless human being”
Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 0:46 utc | 366
Very much sounds like you are a real hater, but you are projecting your bitter hate to others here. No biggie, can see it everyday on TV.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 1:16 utc | 362

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 0:54 utc | 369
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Jane, if I miss quoted you, I humbly apologize. I do think a lot of your comments and point of view are very valuable for the readers of MoA. However, I do disagree with your defensive of so-called “Soft Power” by Western powers. It sounds good, but nothing from the West is what it seems.
The project of the West is to destroy any government that resists, or gets in the way, of the adjectives of the hegemonic West. But you seem to be a prime example of a captured client, you have, it seems, fallen for the old okey doke. As I have pointed out this goes back a long way. A lot of writers has exposed this for what it is: Regime chance without military violence. Really, Jane? I guess we will have to just agree to disagree.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:23 utc | 363

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 0:54 utc | 369
Goals that can be achieved via soft power are compromise (reached via diplomacy) and willing cooperation because of positive results. Enough win-win for all. When I wrote that the US’s soft power was in the toilet I think it was clear that this actually means a loss of genuine influence in the world.
#
Can you give us a couple of paradigmatic examples of how US soft power was used in this way in the past, before it was squandered? Trying to get a handle on when the rot set in.

Posted by: Roger Rabbit | Oct 11 2024 1:27 utc | 364

@Don Bacon #350
Of the 46 Irish Defence Forces personnel who died serving with the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil), 15 died in the line of fire.
The rest died of a combination of natural causes, infections, or accidents. Another three were murdered by one of their own colleagues.
So you might see why the IDF placing its tanks next to Camp Shamrock in Naqurra might not be viewed as expecting the Irish to invite the IDF to tea!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 11 2024 1:28 utc | 365

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 11 2024 1:13 utc | 379
It will be interesting to see how China reacts when the Zionazis start shooting at them.
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In that spirit, China could also send a few troops to bolster the beleaguered UNIFIL contingent…

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 11 2024 1:31 utc | 366

Thank you, sunof27 | Oct 10 2024 22:07 utc | 298; a blessed journey to you also! I am not familiar with the Bhagavad-Gita except for passages by T.S. Eliot in his “Four Quartets”- poems which I studied early days coming online. So I searched, and here is a segment of an essay on those poems by Brandon Case that seems to apply:

“…At the moment which is not of action or inaction
You can receive this: ‘on whatever sphere of being
The mind of a man may be intent
At the time of death’—that is the one action
(And the time of death is every moment)
Which shall fructify in the lives of others:
And do not think of the fruit of action.
Fare forward (DS III.155-62)…”

Kṛṣṇa maintained, “Whatever occupies the mind at the time of death determines the destination of the dying” (BG 8.6), but exhorted Arjuna to remember him, to meditate, and to “repeat . . . the divine name, the syllable Om,” so that “you will go forth from the body and attain the supreme goal” (BG 8.12-13).
Eliot, reinterprets the Gīta’s conception of reincarnation in two directions, first radicalizing it by means of Heraclitus, so that “the time of death is every moment,” and the exhortation a reminder that all that essence of right action is intention, “the purification of the motive” (LG III.198). Those who have learned such purity of heart can have no interest in the fruit of their action—they will not survive to see it in any case!—and so they need no blessing to “Fare well.” They need only “fare forward,” considering “the future / And the past with an equal mind” (DS III.153-54). But Eliot equally expands the Gīta’s doctrine of reincarnation into a fundamentally social doctrine, in which the fruits of my action’s influence, not my next life, but the lives of others (DS III.60).

I have bookmarked the page, as it goes further into Eliot’s poems than this brief analysis. “Four Quartets” has been important to me, as I was born into WW2 when the poems were completed. The analysis here is titled “T.S. Eliot’s Marian transformation of the Bhagavid-Gita”. Thank you for helping me discover it, as we all ‘fare forward.’

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 1:36 utc | 367

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 11 2024 1:15 utc | 380
That’s a good new examples of some of current standings of the ‘Arab Leagues’ against a further Israhell’s ongoing desater, You’ve referred to.
If being performed that way within next days/months, appreciated.
Thanks for that reminder keeping in mind

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 1:36 utc | 368

We Will Not Start an Energy War, But If It Starts, the World Will Lose 12 Million Barrels a Day,
Losing that much supply implies a price increase for oil of between 250-300%.
Mike72 – thanks for your posts !

Posted by: Exile | Oct 11 2024 1:41 utc | 369

“A man is not a dictator when he is given a commission from the people and carries it out.”
— Huey Long (Williams p. 762)
Lots of good quotes. A real populist.
https://www.hueylong.com/perspectives/huey-long-quotes-in-his-own-words.php

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 1:41 utc | 370

I completely agree with Moon of Alabama and Gilbert Doctorow. This is exactly how the us has operated for the past 30 years. They say one thing publicly, to cover their ass, and privately and in action they do something else. The leadership in the WH are complete neocons and continue to believe they can reshape things in the ME. They also believe they need some sort of overwhelming military win in order to gain their self-respect back after numerous military failures over the past 20 years. All the evidence points to this opinion being true. Allowing millions of pounds of US bombs to be sent to destroy Gaza and now Lebanon. Using US ISR to aid in Israel’s murderous spree across the ME. And now the necons in the US are supporting starting the war they always wanted with Iran. Only one thing is holding this up and that is the US elections. Once the elections are done, now matter how they turn out things will escalate in the ME with the US’s blessing.

Posted by: Joe | Oct 11 2024 1:44 utc | 371

What a great thread this is. A great post by b and then fascinating responses from bevin, karlof1, Honzo, J.B. and many others; james made some good points. My head is spinning and I’m only at #200.
I sense the bar is coming to a consensus that it’s the big, rich bully with the mighty Worlitzer propaganda organ and MIC that is the dog wagging the tail. IMHO this analysis means Israel and the jews aren’t quite as evil as I, and others, have been making them out to be because they are not the prime mover behind the genocide.
I’m beginning to think blaming the jews has been a distraction.

Posted by: Chas | Oct 11 2024 1:44 utc | 372

Thank you b.
The counter arguments fail the smell test.
Biden is not in charge of his bowel, never mind USG. Anyone still under the delusion that POTUS runs USG should be ignored.
The “how does this benefit America?” question is stupid and offensive. Ask the victims of the Hawaii fire and the recent floods how USG has helped them.
The cabal or whatever name/label you want to use that controls (directly or indirectly) the mandarins within USG and most governments are who calls the shots.
As someone has already pointed out here earlier, the cogs that turns are either witting or unwitting.
The “cabal” is not a single entity but a loose collection. There’s no board meeting with agendas. But, ideas and actions mingle and deviate.
Capitalism is dead. What we are seeing is old school feudalism. Factions seizing the bounty and pledging allegiance to the cause. Except there’s no Head or King.
The bounties to be controlled are the minerals locked up in ME, Russia and Asia/Africa and the peasants of these lands.
Ukraine and Israel are just labels currently being used to this end.

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 11 2024 1:45 utc | 373

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 11 2024 1:20 utc | 382
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Please don’t insult my intelligences by talking about MAGA and working rights in the same sentence. I know the short comings of the Democrats in relation to the working class: A pox on both of their houses. But the struggle of the immigrants is NOT an attack against the US working class. Corporations looking for cheap labor at home or aborad is such an assualt on the working class.
You ask: “And what does ‘fighting the hawks’ actually mean in practical terms in the USA in 2024? What do you suggest people do? I suppose self-immolation is an option, but so far it doesn’t seem to be working.”
Try organizing a working class party that require that US business pay a fair minimum wage reguardless of race: Not much fun, but dearly needed. The Repub / Democratic Party has supported limited but cheap wages to immigration labor in the US for over 60 years, their wars in Asia and Laten American provide cheap labor for corporations, exspecially construction and domostic labor.
Please don’t lecture me about this subject again, which I know well; but by all means, ask questions if you are interested.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:46 utc | 374

“T.S. Eliot” Really? Is there a more bigoted colonialist? Happy reading julianian. Next time try Mark Twain.
Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 1:36 utc | 388

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:53 utc | 375

“I’m beginning to think blaming the jews has been a distraction.”
Posted by: Chas | Oct 11 2024 1:44 utc | 393
It’s all MAGA’s fault, 100%. MAGA men with their ill-fitting red hats have the really big financial power in Washington. Those marginalized freaks on the internet who insist that AIPAC is real are just conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 1:54 utc | 376

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 1:54 utc | 397
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But that doesn’t explaine Joe Bidens support for Genocide? I think you have side tracked by a Skunk.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:58 utc | 377

fyi & Don Bacon #350
US political adviser resigns after calling for Israel to ‘drop napalm’ over Irish peacekeepers
A former adviser to the Trump administration has resigned from his position as an adviser to a Republican candidate for congress following a deleted X/Twitter post he made last week calling for the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) to drop napalm over where Irish peacekeepers are currently stationed in Lebanon.
[…] In his post, Mr Brodsky, who is also a senior fellow at the Washington-based think tank the Gold Institute for International Strategy, stated that Israel “should carpet bomb the Irish area and then drop napalm over it”.
His post was later deleted.
In a separate post on October 5, Mr Brodsky, quote-tweeted a post from another user on the Irish peacekeepers in Lebanon, saying: “I hope every one of those useless POS Irishmen are blasted to bits.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41493389.html

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 11 2024 1:58 utc | 378

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:46 utc | 395

Try organizing a working class party that require that US business pay a fair minimum wage reguardless of race .. Please don’t lecture me about this subject again, which I know well; but by all means, ask questions if you are nterested./BLOCKQUOTE>
What have all that stuff here to do with any of this thread’s on-topic issues ..?
Sometimes I’ve to wonder here on MoAs comments why OutOfThread mission .. What’s about further actions against Israhell’s Nethjan Genocide ..?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 2:03 utc | 379

re: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 284 who said:
“The only point I want to add is that, as an American, I am sensitive to the condemnation of our world being placed on my country, like Germany in WWII, when we are just more human meatsacks living in under a top down inherited form of social organization.
How much of what we are going through is predicated on maintaining that social/financial hegemony that I keep saying is transnational?”

I guess it’s a bit like when posters here criticise “all the Five Eyes nations”, tarring ’em all with the same brush, I’m not mad about that happening but I say nothing even tho I know that the vast majority of Kiwis abhor everything Five Eyes does, cos despite what we feel, that is what we wittingly or unwittingly, permit Aotearoa/NZ’s government to do in our name.
Much of the corporate capitalist structure that functions ‘transnationally’ is based in amerika & owned by amerikans, so really any amerikan trying to claim immunity on that basis is promoting a furphy IMO.
We don’t do anything because I guess most people rate other things a political mob do ahead of whether or not we assist spying on our brothers, sisters & cousins across the Pacific & into Asia. I recognise that our acquiescence to USuk et al is important & vote accordingly but most do not and that is how it is.
At the risk of yet another lengthy post; on Wednesday I discussed the situation around Antarctica with a couple of mates who have significant media status.
Few kiwis know that after WW2 amerika put the hard word on Aotearoa/NZ and demanded we allow amerika to ‘use’ a big chunk of our formerly large holding in Antarctica as payment for amerika allegedly ‘saving’ us from the ‘japs’.
AFAIK no kiwi pol said “Oi you started that war by blockading Japan and ensuring they were deprived of energy for nearly 12 months before Japan hit amerikan naval bases (and only naval bases the Japanese bombers were at great pains to avoid civilian targets) and whats more Aotearoa/NZ suffered many more casualties per head of population fighting in WW2. We allowed our cities to be used as R&R centers etc & now you’ re sending us a bill?”
No. The weak arseholes didn’t do anything like that, they just handed over half the nation’s Antarctic holding on a peppercorn lease that gets renewed without the knowledge of citizens much less any input. Amerika responded to this largesse by refusing to recognise any other nation’s (including Aotearoa/NZ) Antarctic holdings or ever told our government what they get up to down there. The only thing we do know is that over the decades many notorious senior members of amerika’s security state go to the amerikan base in Antarctica’s Kiwi holding to check stuff out. Naturally no kiwi has the required ‘clearance’ to do the same.
The reason I figured it may be timely to make kiwis aware of how amerika sleazed into the Antarctic is that Russia is currently making an issue out of similar things going on in the Arctic where amerika grabbed an extra 37% or so, which according to Russia, they have no legitimate claim to.
Now I doubt 1 in a million amerikans are aware of the act its government pulled over Antarctica so criticising amerika for its daylight theft is a fair call but only a mug would take it personally cause so few amerikans knew.
We all need to push our governments to keep us informed, cos as long as we don’t claiming ignorance of what happened is lame and certainly no excuse.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 11 2024 2:05 utc | 380

Corrected @400:
Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 1:46 utc | 395

.. Try organizing a working class party that require that US business pay a fair minimum wage reguardless of race .. Please don’t lecture me about this subject again, which I know well; but by all means, ask questions if you are interested

What have that stuff here to do with any of the thread’s on-topic issues ..?
Sometimes I’ve to wonder here on MoAs comments why posting OutOfThread missions ..
So, what’s going about further actions against Israhell’s Nethan Genocide IDF attacks ..?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 2:09 utc | 381

“This is exactly how the us has operated for the past 30 years. They say one thing publicly, to cover their ass, and privately and in action they do something else. The leadership in the WH are complete neocons and continue to believe they can reshape things in the ME…. Only one thing is holding this up and that is the US elections. Once the elections are done… things will escalate in the ME with the US’s blessing.”
Posted by: Joe | Oct 11 2024 1:44 utc | 392
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If anyone did not understand the meaning about the lies that got the US into war with Iraq, without support from the UN, is simply stupid. The US and the UK truly showed the world what they are back then: The world must stop them or die.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:12 utc | 382

Re soft power,
Ambassador Chas Freeman:
“With its ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the bombing of Beirut, Israel as strengthened itself tactically at the expense of a strategic defeat, because it no longer has the admiration of the world’s people. The excuse from the Holocaust that we are the victims and should be immune from the consequences of our actions is gone. I don’t think that Israel’s support in the United States is sustainable. It is a generational thing now. . . .”
Ca. 24:00,
https://arabcenterdc.org/event/one-year-after-october-7-how-have-us-and-eu-foreign-policies-evolved/
This webinar is well worth watching. Excellent participants, Palestinian and Lebanese.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 2:13 utc | 383

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 0:45 utc | 364
Because liberal capitalism is the enemy and our enemy’s enemy is marginally better because its populism fucks with liberal capitalism.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 2:17 utc | 384

Pretty lively in here, b. I agree with you; The whole thing reminds me of Thulsa Doom explaining his take on the Riddle of Steel to Conan.
The zionist entity is essentially a weapon in the hand of the long-lived imperialist clique aspiring to global domination, now led by the USA.
I think to focus on Biden himself is to miss the larger point. “Biden” should be seen in The Saker sense; “Biden” now is a shorthand address for the eldritch, amorphous blob (iow the afore mentioned imperialist clique that has plagued civilization for eons) that rules from DC.
While I usually shrink from violence, I understand perfectly well that sometimes you have to fight; and in my opinion, about 3000 well-aimed bullets would make humanity’s collective future a lot brighter.

Posted by: robjira | Oct 11 2024 2:17 utc | 385

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 2:09 utc | 402
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I am sorry, but I think I am on subject of this thread: Tell me how I am not, if you have a problem with my comment, then lay it out. But please, do so for everyone else on the thread that I responded to. Please hurry, I am waiting, and I don’t have all night.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:20 utc | 386

Ed, 383
“However, I do disagree with your defensive [sic] of so-called “Soft Power” by Western powers. It sounds good, but nothing from the West is what it seems.”
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I didn’t write a “defense” of soft power.
Please reread my original post.
I mentioned soft power in passing.
This triggered a few folks here.
Good night.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 2:22 utc | 387

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 11 2024 2:17 utc | 406
“Because liberal capitalism is the enemy and our enemy’s enemy is marginally better because its populism fucks with liberal capitalism.”
Thanks for the succinct response. It does make some sense.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 2:23 utc | 388

I didn’t write a “defense” of soft power.
Please reread my original post.
I mentioned soft power in passing.
This triggered a few folks here.
Good night.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 2:22 utc | 409
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Well good, because soft power is about as powerful as Hippies putting flowers into the rifles of the National Guard during the Vietnam War. Good night Jane.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:30 utc | 389

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:12 utc | 403
“.. The world must stop them or die.”
Yes, but the US/UK isn’t ‘back’ there by ignoring all UN rules & decisions today, they’re still there with its vetos.
So, what the UN and its Geneva sub-agencies has a significant world-order rules presently to push in any effective ways against Israhell attacks ?
I can’t follow that ‘logic’ applied by the currently still verbal claims ie. by Russia, China, India ..
Why all others of RoW are ignoring S-Africa’s statements – that established some sanctions against Israhell.
Where are the RoW’s pending sanctions that should be fired against Israhell’s population, even supporting its own Nethan-Gov ?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 2:30 utc | 390

@ Debsisdead | Oct 11 2024 2:05 utc | 401 with more examples of my country being and asshole…..sigh
You are correct and it has been going on in America since its inception despite my belief in the ideals of my country…..the reality of America has not lived up to those ideals any more than the Catholic church has lived up to the ideals of that Jesus guy.
Maybe our species should race to see who can be the most hypocritical…/s
So Gawd! Are we suppose to fear you or love you?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 11 2024 2:37 utc | 391

Posted by: james | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 285
Oh, great, james! All was not lost, however. Another response took me on a nice journey forward.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 11 2024 2:38 utc | 392

US think-tank upset about this “Iran -backed disinformation .” . . Notourwar.com founded in 2021 publishes various types of analytics and statistics intending to reach Americans and worldwide audiences focusing on the costs of U.S. military presence. . https://www.notourwar.com/

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 2:38 utc | 393

I can’t follow that ‘logic’ applied by the currently still verbal claims ie. by Russia, China, India ..
Why all others of RoW are ignoring S-Africa’s statements – that established some sanctions against Israhell.
Where are the RoW’s pending sanctions that should be fired against Israhell’s population, even supporting its own Nethan-Gov ?
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 11 2024 2:30 utc | 412
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This discussion would be helped if we just used the correct spelling of the words we intend to use (not that my spelling is great). Anyway, spare_truth_01, I am old and tired, and at times senile. But I will be dammed if I can understand what you are trying to say in the glob of words above. Please try again.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:42 utc | 394

C’mon folks lets get back to the real topics at hand. Chemtrails, foreskins, climate physics, “experts”, Covid, Kamala targeting the Republican voters with HAARP, and trannies.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 2:43 utc | 395

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 2:43 utc | 417
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Well, to be fair, I think we have resolved that B is correct, and the US still wags the tail for very nefarious reasons. Got something else you want to add?

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:48 utc | 396

Can you give us a couple of paradigmatic examples of how US soft power was used in this way in the past, before it was squandered? Trying to get a handle on when the rot set in.
Posted by: Roger Rabbit | Oct 11 2024 1:27 utc | 384
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Please read my original post.
I gave examples of institutions and cultural forces whose reputation had suffered as a result of their response to the US participation in the Gaza genocide. I only mentioned “soft power” being in the toilet almost as an afterthought.
Referencing “regime change” as a goal or achievement of soft power is ridiculous, since that (fairly recent) term a priori implies duplicity and coercion.
The US has tried to hold up its democratic values as goals or models that might induce people to make certain political choices. That was still credible in the past, but no longer. As for exactly when that credibility was squandered—I am not a political scientist. I do think the US “policy colony” in DC underwent a major change after the collapse of the USSR, and the Neocons took hold, first in the Bush II administration, with their dreams of US world hegemony pouring into the vacuum left by the USSR. 9/11 sort of sealed the deal; most likely that was its purpose. As for whether American foreign policy and culture have achieved anything positive in the world, that it too large a question for me, and this thread. If people want to be like you, is that good or bad?
Still I think the historical American project—the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights—have probably been factors in disseminating a genuine positive feeling about the United States, despite the obvious warts on the reality. I do think that Americans must defend our right to freedom of speech. And, by extension, everyone’s. Is that soft power????

Posted by: Jane | Oct 11 2024 2:53 utc | 397

When folks say that Bibi Miliekowsky is dragging Biden around by the nose, I LAUGH.
The US/UK project in the middle East is of their own (and their Jew ZIONIST banksters) making. The US has been at the forefront of regime change wars in the ME for DECADES. Israhell is basically the US military outpost in the ME, while it STEALS several countries RESOURCES, like the oil in Iraq, in Syria (along with Turkey, who not only sells oil to Israhell, but also benefits from Syrian agriculture via olive groves and sales that make Turkey billions every year!). Turkey and the US use terrorists in Syria, to protect those resources, as well as Israhell to bomb them into submission.
There is also enormous gas wealth via fields off the GAZAN AND LEBANESE COAST.
To suggest that Israhell is directing all of that is ludicrous. While Israhell certainly does its part to work for the US, ITS WE WHO ARE THE BAD GUYS!!
BTW, B, I’m not a fan of Doctorow, but on this, I too am in agreement.
To blame Bibi Miliekowsky solely, is to distract from US culpability and responsibility.
PS GET THE US OUT OF LEBANON ‘S GOV

Posted by: Kay | Oct 11 2024 2:55 utc | 398

Posted by: Ed | Oct 11 2024 2:48 utc | 418
To tell you the truth, the discussion here has made me think about it more. A lot more. But I can’t get it out of my head all the pathetic standing ovations for Netanyahu in the US Congress.

Posted by: Be fair | Oct 11 2024 2:58 utc | 399

. . .from my 415, on US military use check out “The Souda Bay Whistleblowers: Anonymous US Officers Expose Dark Secrets of US-Israeli Collaboration”. .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 11 2024 2:58 utc | 400