Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 10, 2024
Biden’s Intent Is To Sow Chaos – Netanyahoo And Zelensky Are Working For Him

There is a great believe peddled by main stream media that the Biden administration is trying to hold the Zionists   back from their devastating action in Gaza, Lebanon and beyond, but unfortunately fails to do so. Some commentators argue that this is the case because the Israel lobby has a very strong position in U.S. policies and can direct the U.S. government into any direction of its liking.

My hunch is that this is putting the cart before the horse.

It is in fact the Biden administration which is using the Israeli (and Ukrainian) government to serve its foreign policy purposes. As I remarked:

This has been the general theme of a media campaign for a while. "Natanyahoo is steamrolling Biden and the poor guy can do nothing about it."

I do not buy it. One phone call from the White House to the Pentagon would hold resupply flights from the U.S. to Israel. Without constant supply renewal the Israeli Air Force would have to stop its bombing campaigns in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen within days if not within hours.

But instead of calling the Pentagon, the whole Middle East team around Biden, Antony Blinken, Brett McGurk and IDF soldier Amos Hochstein, has been urging Israel to extend its campaign.

They are hoping, like the neoconservatives in 2006 during the Bush administration, for the 'birth pangs of a new Middle East', which will forever change the strategic situation on the ground.

The conclusion from this is that Netanyahoo is largely doing exactly what the Biden administration wants him to do.

Gilbert Doctorow, the well known historian and journalist, is of similar opinion:

More on tails wagging dogs and vice versa


Some viewers/readers support my contention that the United States is using Israel as its proxy in the Middle East and is not just enabling but even directing Israel’s rampage in the region to ‘kick ass’ generally and to reinforce American dominance there in line with American global hegemony. Far from being outraged by the Israeli atrocities, the U.S. government is satisfied to see Israel take revenge for the many humiliations that the United States has suffered in the Middle East, most recently in the disorderly and disgraceful pull-out from Afghanistan but going back, say, 40 years to the hostage taking at the American embassy in Teheran by the new revolutionary Iranian leadership there that overthrew the American backed Shah.

Others in my audience have not hesitated to say that they think I am wrong, and that indeed Prime Minister Netanyahu is leading Joe Biden & Company around by the nose, which just happens to be the consensus view in mainstream media.

Most of this discussion is not visible to the broad public. However, the ‘Judging Freedom’ channel which has 450,000 subscribers and its host, Judge Andrew Napolitano put my proposition on the dog (USA) wagging the tail (Israel) to several of his best-known panelists in the 24 hours following my interview with him. To be sure, my idea seemed so ‘contrarian’ that it demanded a response from the mightiest minds in the alternative media camp. They obliged. With one exception, the mightiest minds were dismissive of my interpretation in more respectful, less respectful ways.

Professor John Mearsheimer and Larry Johnson are two of the guest on the Napolitano show who reject Doctorow's thesis.

However, Doctorow and I are not the only ones delving into this conundrum. Professor of history at Columbia University Adam Tooze, a rather famous commentator, joined us with his current Guardian comment:

Facing war in the Middle East and Ukraine, the US looks feeble. But is it just an act?

There is one school of thought that says the Biden administration is muddling through. It has no grand plan. It lacks the will or the means to discipline or direct either the Ukrainians or the Israelis. As a result, it is mainly focused on avoiding a third world war.

But what if that interpretation is too benign? What if it underestimates the intentionality on Washington’s part? What if key figures in the administration actually see this as a history-defining moment and an opportunity to reshape the balance of world power? What if what we are witnessing is the pivoting of the US to a deliberate and comprehensive revisionism by way of a strategy of tension?

Revisionist powers are those that want to overturn the existing state of things. In an extended sense, this can also mean a desire to alter the flow of events; for instance, to redirect or halt the process of globalisation. Revisionism is often associated with resentment or nostalgia for an earlier, better age.

Tooze digs down into the various action the Biden administration has taken against Russia, China and in the Middle East. He concludes:

In all three arenas – China, Ukraine and the Middle East – the US will say that it is responding to aggression. But rather than working consistently for a return to the status quo it is, in fact, raising the stakes. While insisting that it supports the rules-based order, what we are witnessing is something closer to a revival of the ruinous neoconservative ambition of the 1990s and 2000s.

[T]here is more going on here than simply muddling through. First the Trump and now the Biden presidencies are willing contributors to the controlled demolition of the 1990s post-cold war order.

People seem to have forgotten that Biden was never a liberal in the progressive sense. Since being a freshman in Congress Biden has always been on the conservative side of things:

Alliances With Segregationists

1975: Mr. Biden joined Senator Jesse Helms, a Republican segregationist from North Carolina, in supporting an anti-busing amendment to an education spending bill. When the amendment failed, Mr. Biden wrote a narrower measure that prevented schools from using federal dollars to assign teachers or students by race. It passed, 50-43.

In a television interview, Mr. Biden called busing an “asinine concept” and said he had “gotten to the point where I think our only recourse to eliminate busing may be a constitutional amendment.”

In 2002 Biden was joined at the hip with the neoconservatives when he, as the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, feverishly argued for launching the war on Iraq:

In a speech days before the 2002 [Iraq war] vote, Bush did say approving the resolution “does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable,” but he also laid out in detail why military action “may” be needed. And on the day the war broke out, Biden acknowledged, “We voted to give him the authority to wage that war. We should step back and be supportive.”

When the Biden administration is sowing global chaos the way it currently does, it is acting along a path which Biden has long favored and with the intent to sow chaos, not because this or that outside power is pressing him to do so.

Comments

I usually find myself ageeing with b on most articles but not on this one. I honestly thought now that the Zionist Entity has finally entered the genocide stage that more people would’ve woken up a bit with regard to zionist influence/control not just of the US, but the West as a whole.
Even with 9/11, the cover up of the US Liberty in 1967, and Congress being bought and paid for by the usual suspects the penny still dosen’t drop for many.
From my point of view, as a non-American, I would say it is undoubtedley true that the Tel Aviv Syndrome is a much stronger strain of psychological control than its Stockholm variant.
Last word to Colonel Douglas MacGregor: “Mr Netanyahu is in charge, we are not, and it’s clear we are not… he controls everything, he controls the hill.”

Posted by: Vencingetorix | Oct 10 2024 19:50 utc | 201

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 10 2024 17:55 utc | 151
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I am not leveling an indictment against Americans per se. The British were the same back in the “The sun never sets” days of the Empire.
Humans are not meant to be imperial citizens. It brings out the worst in us, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2024 19:51 utc | 202

The IDF is insane………their horrific counter strike on Iran will surely be retaliated with by a massive Iranian strike on all military and utility infrastructure in Israel……..but what is the point?
If they were sane, the IDF, Bibi and the War Cabinet would be engaged in ceasefire talks to defuse the situation…..but no…..instead they believe, incredibly, in de-escalation by escalation, a concept which has never worked in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghan either, and never worked in Gaza or the West Bank or Lebanon.
Bibi is bound and determined to defeat Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Houthis in detail…….that type of mind type is completely delusional, its clinically insane because its not achieveable without the use of many tactical nuclear devices (a situation that even the dog tail US would not tolerate).
This will end very badly for Israel, and for the US too………..especially with the illegal bases in Syria and Iraq being fully exposed (here is a hint…….evacuate them now).

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 10 2024 19:52 utc | 203

Why the Scots became so famous for celebrating New Year. Where “first footing” and all that came from.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19803443.christmas-banned-scotland-four-centuries—changed/

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 19:53 utc | 204

Автор: Тобиас Коул | 10 октября 2024 г., 19:52 по Гринвичу | 210
Они готовят приход Мошиаха. Здравый ум оставил их.

Posted by: Виктор | Oct 10 2024 19:56 utc | 205

@lys[i]as | Oct 10 2024 19:29 utc | 197
An EMP attack would not surprise me ….
… nor, what might come after it.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 10 2024 19:56 utc | 206

Bibi is blindly bound and determined to defeat Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Houthis in detail…………there fixed it…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 10 2024 19:58 utc | 207

Posted by: dh-mtl | Oct 10 2024 18:44 utc | 175
That is definitely the topic, although I don’t recall you using auto-creative (I would say autopoietic).

However problems arise when these systems are taken over by authoritarians. Authoritarians hate rules, because it limits their freedom to act. And what rules they do make tend to serve themselves at the expense of the system, i.e. the society as a whole. As well, authoritarians think that everything depends on the individual and that systems are unimportant.
The historical origins of the current malaise date back to the take-over of the U.S. political system by trans-national elites, with the election of Reagan in the U.S. in 1980 and Thatcher in Britain in the early 80s. Since then, these elites, who are very authoritarian in nature, have systematically degraded the systems of these societies, whether it be economic, education, health-care, electoral, policing, etc. to the point that they have created dysfunctional, quasi-fascist, states that benefit only themselves and their collaborators to the detriment and impoverishment of the vast majority.

That’s a good summary. I recall that you invoked a concept similar to “subject matter expert” to explain how decision making in highly complex systems had to be distributed. I think MBA-itis (computer chips, potato chips, what’s the difference) is the mechanism by which authoritarianism comes to destroy any activity that doesn’t immediately add to the bottom line – research, who needs it? You can ask Boeing, Intel, and General Electric.

Posted by: john_brewster | Oct 10 2024 19:59 utc | 208

Good article from b. It’s apparent that many have trouble holding what seem like two competing or opposite viewpoints in mind at once.
The US has always used “Israel” as a beachhead or FOB in the ME, despite not actually (or openly) stationing military personnel or hardware in Occupied Palestine. The old “land based aircraft carrier” trope. “Israel” is the tip of the Globo Cap neoliberal spear in the ME and Levant. The regional chaos agent masquerading as an agent of ‘order’. No need to go back in time to the beginning of the first Cold War as most if not all ‘barflies’ understand this history. In the 90s and early 2000s, after the demise of the USSR and the “threat” of global communism (aka the spread of socialism and petro-socialism in ME countries (see: Venezuela)), Israelis (aka raving dual-loyalty Zionists) had taken over many of the high places in the elected and unelected governments of the US, UK and EU. Hence, any “foreign policy” or, rather, military policy (since the US abandoned diplomacy by any other means) in the ME/West Asia ‘theater’ is directed by Israel-first Zionists, both ostensibly (non-practicing or believing) Jews and their Goyim/Gentile fellow travelers.
So it’s not inaccurate to say that “Israel” controls US foreign policy in the ME/West Asia because, in fact, the people in charge have the so-called interests of both equally in mind at all times. They are the same people with the same ideology and the same worldview. The US government is completely infiltrated with Zionist project true believers and actual Zionists. Any cursory examination of US policy since 2001 makes this blindingly obvious. They are one and the same for that region of the world, and increasingly in terms of domestic social/civil policy. It is verboten to question this now, lest one be accused of being a “Jew hater” or “antisemite.” That alone should be sufficient to demonstrate that there is near complete overlap or coercion in Western halls of power, the mainstream media, academic managerial leadership, and in the culture.
There is no tail and there is no dog. There is one animal with slightly shifting priorities and aims, but which ultimately function monolithically when viewed from a high enough level.
TL/DR: It is of no use to discuss which country is manipulating or controlling or infiltrating the other. Is of some use to single out the parties and affiliations involved to see that neoliberal GloboCap is the driving force behind ALL ‘official’ US-Israeli actions.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2024 20:00 utc | 209

It seems that euro-atlantist elites have some kind of common ideology, but this ideology is based purely on power, without any spiritual content.
Only the power above the others, a might to enjoy in stolen wealth, power to destroy people’s lives, to destroy the nature, to do things like Epstein’s guests or worse and never be punished.
What are the roots of this ideology besides Protestantism, and US managerial business ideology (greed is good)?
I would say it contains also the perverted ideals of the sixties (Do whatever you like).

Posted by: vargas | Oct 10 2024 20:03 utc | 210

The Judge came on with the Doctorow hypothesis and was stunned or something, mind blown, and proceeded to ask every guest of the next few days what they thought of this, begetting the most vociferous denials from Larry Johnson who likes to rant. But what was being denied? Seems to me the objections were due to interpreting Doc to mean Biden was directing Yahoo on what to do versus Biden being run over roughshod by Yahoo. This was the time of Yahoo’s 58 standing ovations in Congress which also greatly annoyed the Judge, the time of Biden’s pallid stuttering performances so it all seemed a huge bollocks since Yahoo had been having his way along with AIPAC etc. etc. Me, I was puzzled. What? This thread has shown by several astute comments it’s not “the Biden administration” that’s running things a la Ukraine making Israel its proxy. It’s the policy going back decades, with its most profound power emerging with PNAC and full spectrum dominance and that doctrine in the 90’s. Biden is still back at being “loyal” in the sense of the hound with adoring eyes versus any other kind of wagging in his sense of what to do, there’s no brainwork there. No, it’s the policy dominating what goes on and which Yahoo happens to agree with, it suits his situation, so we have a tandem effort going on here, all of it savagery and supremacism and return to Hitler, the dog with two tails and they’re both wagging! The observation (sorry I’ve lost where it is, been reading this stream) that events are now in control, policies and individuals be damned–in short the flummox of chaos descending–seems right on to me.

Posted by: Arshin | Oct 10 2024 20:03 utc | 211

The second the Iranians have any inkling of an IDF strike they will launch their counter strike, they will not wait for an EMP strike or a tact nuke strike or a US cruise missile strike…..their birds will be in the air immediately…….this will be ME Meggido…….stay tuned…….and buy gold and silver…Tullamore Dew for every one at the bar!!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Oct 10 2024 20:08 utc | 212

Scotland banned it for 400 years. England under Cromwell banned it for about 20.

Posted by: Bramble | Oct 10 2024 20:10 utc | 213

I find it useful to think in terms of a parasite and hosts. Israel / Zionist Jews / global shadow group, depending on your preference are the parasite. We can identify them as the parasite as when there are conflicts of interest, (Israel-US, Elite-masses, etc), the parasite usually wins. And resources flow towards them.
It is in the interest of the parasite to gain control over key aspects of the host. It is important that the host be unaware that the parasite is a parasite, so Israel has the holocaust, indivisible aircraft carrier, etc to make the host believe that the parasite is good for them. The parasite would also want the host to be dominant among others, so interests are aligned there. A good parasite would want to infect and control multiple hosts – Pegasus software sold to many countries, etc.
Like any metaphor, it is not perfect, but I think it’s more useful than a dog and tail.
Posted by: Rahul | Oct 10 2024 16:59 utc | 115

IMHO a better metaphor is MASTERS and SLAVES, after all the “shadow group” originated in Rome or before and slavery was the “oil” of that time.
There are similar things with a parasite but also differences.
Normally a parasite does NOT want to kill the host. Masters do not care if the slave dies as long as slave dies doing something for the master.
Also resources are important because they allow you to bribe and buy people BUT the most important issue is POWER. The power of the MASTER over the salve or slaves MUST be absolute.
It is expected from slaves to consider the master “divine” or “god like creature” and to sacrifice them self with joy for the master.
This “shadow group” of masters have many slaves.
Potentially the whole world minus Russia, China and friends.
Some “lucky slaves” are knowing and work directly for the masters.
There are many enforcers, killers or fixers, security forces and body guards.
And some “unlucky slaves” and unknowingly slaves are made by propaganda or by “influence” or “force coercion”, blackmail, etc.
The are very intelligent, most likely NOT psychopaths, know all the tricks in the “book” from the history and have defeated many individual foes or organizations or countries or Empires until now.
The problem today is that there are other “non shadow” groups with public faces as Putin and XI that want to be “masters” over their countries and want to be “nice to slaves” or they do not even consider people as “slaves”
This is not acceptable.

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 20:14 utc | 214

” It seems that euro-atlantist elites have some kind of common ideology, but this ideology is based purely on power, without any spiritual content.
Posted by: vargas | Oct 10 2024 20:03 utc | 217″
You are very mistaken good sir. The upper echelons of control on this planet are constantly showing us their affinity for the occult and esoteric, aka “the spiritual”. One just must know what to look for.

Posted by: Moonie | Oct 10 2024 20:16 utc | 215

A sobering reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9L0dCWsg8

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2024 20:17 utc | 216

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 20:14 utc | 221
Slave owners/masters most definitely do care if a slave dies. Smart ones used to take out insurance policies on them, often underwritten and doled out by….certain yarmulke wearing folks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2024 20:19 utc | 217

” Russia killing Zelenski changes little, and killing heads of state sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Passerby | Oct 10 2024 19:17 utc | 191 ”
But why, should only the cannon fodder fear death while the ” leaders” make back door deals with each other ? This is obviously, a ” rule” made by the elite for the elite. Just like the archaic and easily corruptible “diplomatic rules” nations still follow. At this point, embassies are just dens for spies and infiltrators. The rules need to be heavily altered.

Posted by: Moonie | Oct 10 2024 20:22 utc | 218

@ Trubind1 | Oct 10 2024 19:32 utc | 198
Erst kommt das Fressen…
(truer words were never spoken)

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2024 20:23 utc | 219

Trump got impeached for bringing attention to Bidens withholding money from Ukraine to get the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma and Hunter fired.
All this was known before Biden was nominated.
Trump is totally compromised by Israel as is Harris.
Stein is the only choice. A poor choice but not a insane choice of the other two.
Biden and Poroshenko at 4:00
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NjCqTM8sskfq

Posted by: BoogieKnights | Oct 10 2024 20:23 utc | 220

The question of “who’s the dog, who’s the tail?” is entirely specious.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Oct 10 2024 16:27 utc | 100
Only for people like you Tom. Who have followed geopolitics very closely for many years and can paint a very vivid picture of how it has developed.
Now put yourself in the position of 80% of American’s who haven’t and keep drinking the kool aid of mainstream media they follow due to their confirmation bias.
Then the question of “who’s the dog, who’s the tail?” is entirely not specious. It is a psych op on those 80% who drink the kool aid to remove America as the problem and give them plausible deniability regarding genocide. Convince their own public American interests aren’t even involved.
Netyanhu doesn’t take a piss without CIA and Pentagon say so. Why the hold back of striking Iran after Iran bombed them ? The narrative went from complete fury to a whisper. The CIA and Pentagon put their dog on a leash.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 20:23 utc | 221

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 10 2024 17:55 utc | 151
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Humans are not meant to be imperial citizens. It brings out the worst in us, IMO.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2024 19:51 utc | 209
We’re in perfect alignment on that, Love. Keep working brother!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 10 2024 20:24 utc | 222

Note, this is a large area (25kmsq). However, I’m not crediting Russia, since I didn’t deduct Kursk from their AUG numbers. I see these as separate sectors and the RFA just needs to get back to par here. I do think RFA has been driving more/better in Kursk for last month or so. But it remains a very fluid area and different than the kind of grinding moves we see elsewhere and can forecast rates from. Also, UFA has definitely hung in there a lot more than most of the chitchatters on this site thought they would (most were talking about a week to get rid of them!)
Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 10 2024 19:19 utc | 192
It was said 36 hours for each battalion employed by the ukro and it was believed that 3 brigades were employed to alleviate the fighting in Dombas. Now it seems 17 are employed, of the most efficient and well-armed. Redo the calculation of 36 hours per battalion and you will see that everything adds up. With the leaves also the Kursk operation falls.
automatic tradition

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Oct 10 2024 20:27 utc | 223

More on EMP attack – this piece on what an EMP attack on US would mean – most critical is that all Nuclear Plants are protected – if not – Disaster …
Well worth reading …
[…] Such an attack on the US mainland would be unique in that, unlike conventional kinetic weapons, an EMP attack would cause no direct physical damage to structures, and there would be no immediate loss of life directly from the detonation itself or the release of energy that followed. Instead, the released energy from the EMP would primarily damage and destroy the electronic devices and equipment that maintain the infrastructure systems on which the U.S. relies. Between direct damage to devices and subsequent inability to regulate infrastructural systems, all services and sectors that rely on electricity, telecommunications, transport, oil/gas, food, medical services, and finance/banking would cease.
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Wild-Blue-Yonder/Articles/Article-Display/Article/3674518/usaf-role-in-the-electromagnetic-pulse-vulnerability-of-the-united-states-criti/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 10 2024 20:29 utc | 224

Posted by: Benson | Oct 10 2024 17:48 utc | 146 No, Trump did not say or else. Putting a hold on deliveries spoke for itself. Trump could have just asked without that extra persuasion.
Posted by: jinn | Oct 10 2024 16:18 utc | 92 A good comment deserves repeating!
“Not just military aid it was aid that was defined as ‘lethal military aid’ intended to be used by the Zelensky govt against Russians that lived in the Donbas region.
Suddenly the anti-Trumpers, when they heard that Trump was holding up the aid, were convinced that sending this aid was the most important thing in the world.
The anti-Trumpers don’t care that Trump initiated that aid in the first place and the delay in delivery was inconsequential. All that the 81 million who voted against Trump know is that Trump was against it and therefore they are for it.
Anyone that questions Trump’s value to the US Establishment as a means to manufacturing consent for its imperial goals need look no further than this one incident. Boldface added. I will also add even these anti-Trumpers insisted on impeaching Trump from a right-wing perspective. Like Obama, Trump could have been impeached for drone murders. (Yes my personal standard, sue me.)
As to the belief that open war against Iran must be crazy, the system is crazy, because it’s decaying. Trump launched war against Iran with economic warfare and the Biden administration is once against following in Trump’s footsteps. I suppose the calculation is that a quick war can be ridden out, because energy importers—like the PRC but Europe too— will be hurt more. And the long term fantasy of controlling, maybe even “owning” all that oil warps their so-called thinking.
On the CPC/CCP imbroglio, English speakers are I think more reliable on English usage. For a long time, CCP was meant invidiously, as in “stooges of Moscow.” Thus the tendency to see CCP as invidious, a usage like Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party. Good manners in English says, I think, CPC. But no one has been bruised by bad manners on the internet.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2024 20:30 utc | 225

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2024 19:51 utc | 209
” ..Humans are not meant to be imperial citizens. It brings out the worst in us, IMO. ..
So, what they may ‘bring out” the “worst in us” ?
Those will really ‘bring out’ the worst within hidden ‘in us’ ?
The worst will be further terrorism forever against x+y ..? Forever, until one diabolical back power have it been stopped forever.
Either by snipers or anywhome ..

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 20:35 utc | 226

This analysis is correct. Of course, “nation states” have never existed, what matters are transnational social networks.
Those behind “the West” have always wanted world domination: no other goal is seemingly worthy of their pole position.
The virtue of their position is that the “national sovereignty” of “China” and “Russia” are indeed untenable. Notice how all these “anti-imperialist” powers simply ape “Western” rhetoric from a few decades or centuries ago. It’s not impressive.
“China” has its Global Civilization Initiative, but it’s unworthy of the name. “Russia” wants to talk about poles as if they can cohere: they can’t.
“The West” indeed is implementing a strategy of tension because its AI systems are best capable of reaping the rewards of chaos. In order to counter this strategy it is necessary to split the “Western” alliance, which also means talking in terms capable of doing so. AKA not the ones of “national sovereignty” but rather more “systems of systems” and high level military theory.
Sadly, most here don’t seem to have the intellectual acumen or courage to engage in such analysis.

Posted by: Adam | Oct 10 2024 20:36 utc | 227

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 20:14 utc | 221
Slave owners/masters most definitely do care if a slave dies. Smart ones used to take out insurance policies on them, often underwritten and doled out by….certain yarmulke wearing folks.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 10 2024 20:19 utc | 225

Well, THEN they are “beginners childish wannabee masters”.
– They care for their wealth.
– They have too little wealth and too small number of slaves.
– They “try” to safeguard their “investment” in slaves by “insurance”.
The only thing that matters is POWER.
When you have billions of slaves and they do not even know they are slaves (most people believe they are “free” or have contrarian opinions or independent thinking process … ha ha ha)
And when you have billions of trillions in money
As a “shadow master group” you only care for POWER and propagating this POWER to the next generation of “shadow masters” and being able to do this for ever and ever…

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 20:38 utc | 228

The defining theory behind, Netyanhu and the lobby runs America…
Is that Biden’s administration is weak. The Republicans are weak. Because they are weak ( or bought ) Netyanhu and the lobby get their own way.
It is false premis, because neither the Biden administration not the Republican’s run America. They are a stage set of a play. Filled with actors.
Netyanhu and the lobby have zero sway over the true power behind America. The CIA and Pentagon had proved it time and time again. 3 times already in the last year.
Every time there are tit for tat strikes with Iran. Netyanhu is put on a leash. A long range missiles to Ukraine leash.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 20:39 utc | 229

@Honzo #234
Any comment on the article I linked to at #232 Think Iran as you read …
p.s. I have it on good authority from Seven-of-9 that the Borg landed in Area 51 and after looking around decided that there was no way to safely assimilate the Earthlings and then they got out of there as fast as they could- max warf speed and never to return.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 10 2024 20:45 utc | 230

“…it is about right and wrong, but not how you think… we need to find a way to live together, as opposed to what is going on here at present…”
Posted by: james | Oct 10 2024 15:38 utc | 63
Correction, dear james. It is about right and wrong; and about how you think… we need to find a way to live together, as opposed to what is going on here at present..
Some of us can do one as well as the other. Some can do only one and not the other. Fine, okay. But we need both thinkers and doers!
By their fruits ye shall know them.
We need the friction of opposing thoughts. We need to argue. What we don’t need, in the importance of the times, is fruitless, antagonistic argument. I do see what you are saying, james. And lately, because of the clarity we are facing of terrible events, there is a consensus growing, not just here but elsewhere.
It is happening.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 10 2024 20:46 utc | 231

Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 10 2024 16:24 utc | 98
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@Trubind1
I keep wondering the same.
So many rockets are launched from Lebanon. Do they lack intelligence/inside knowledge and strategic combined efforts (with Iran) to throw a bolt into the machinery?
Or is there already noticeable damage, but the news blackout is keeping it hidden from outsiders?
Going for mass instead of efficiency is due to Israel’s rocket defence systems-probably (?), but
Iran’s precise strikes showed what professionals can achieve.
Since UN won’t/can’t interfere i was hopeful that there was a military power that would side with the victims of the genocide and finally FINALLY FINALLY after long unimaginable suffering
parched and hungering
thousands imprisoned held under grave conditions
seas of blood and tears shed
mountains of bodies piled up
put an end to the atrocities that are happening every day and bleeding Gaza dry.
But the reality is very sobering. The suffering of the indigenous people of Palestine continues.
The criminals can continue to murder unchallenged,
Destroy:
* 700 wells
* 0ver 100 schools and universities
* 150,000 homes
* over 3000 km of electricity networks
* over 600 mosques
(man imagine that with churches HERE! )
When will the hoped-for salvation come?
Will it come at all?

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 20:46 utc | 232

Speaking of nation states and capitalism: I have never read a better critique than Traven’s “The Death Ship.”
Highly recommend. You’ll be blown away.
Traven’s work is outstanding. You probably know about it by way of “Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” But every bit of it is as good or better.

Posted by: JAB | Oct 10 2024 20:51 utc | 233

Michael A, #24
Bravo. It is beyond tiresome watching/reading so many otherwise smart people doing the equivalent of analysing the movement of the stars from the bottom of a well.
The US is about to self destruct as a cohesive force capable of exerting power and influence on a global scale. The treatment of its Appalachian population following the very peculiar weather event recently may well be the straw that breaks the camels back. Hillary’s Deplorables are getting a first hand dose of the Democrats selective welfare state. The situation where 49% of the population will never accept the “democratic” outcome of the worlds most disorganized and corruptable voting process is going to deliver dividends for those whose ownership of the media has been fertilizing that crop for decades now. The confluence of those two forces will erode the banks and collapse everything built along them. At the very least there will be massive civil strife, at the most, armed conflict and a dissolution of the union.
What we are witnessing in the “West” is the systemic disassembly of the idea that nation states are the best way to deliver governance and the advancement of the globalist “one world government” agenda. The WEF is the primary driver of this and it is telling that its barely credible leadership duo are given credulous coverage by the media for what a clearly sociopathic and unhinged positions. It is that agenda and those promoting it who are going to benefit from the collapse of the “United States of America”. Engagement in stupid wars only advances that project by diverting energy and cash from building internal cohesion and wellbeing to the military industrial complex. If you doubt the veracity of my argument just follow the money. It ends at the bottom of the funnel with Vangard, whose ownership is opaque. That is where the real problem lies.

Posted by: eagle eye | Oct 10 2024 20:52 utc | 234

People who say Netyanhu and the lobby runs America Is because Biden’s administration is weak.
Well that’s mainly a political attack as the election is next month. If the Republicans were in power it would look no different..
Then Democrats will say Netyanhu and the lobby runs America Is because the Republican administration is weak.
Neither of them Run America.
The true power use the CIA and the Pentagon to reign their proxies in they don’t use congress or the senate. The congress and the Senate are more of the advertising agencies of true power.
The people who always there in powerful positions and in the background regardless of who wins elections.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 20:53 utc | 235

So the liberal Zionists seek an out now by blaming Netanyahu. Of course, they can’t quite disown the Gaza genocide, but they really don’t want to own it either. . . .
Posted by: Cabe | Oct 10 2024 16:14 utc | 88
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Another way to duck the question of possible Jewish guilt is to blame the Christian Evangelicals.
Regarding your analysis of the subtle differences in evidence of Zionist control, for me another big surprise this past year was the outing of Zionist control in universities, exercised, primarily, I think, via donor power (but then there was also the evidence of connections of Columbia’s president with the IDF).
I was pretty surprised at events on university campuses in light of the utter horror and openness and ubiquity of evidence on social media of Israel’s genocidal criminal attacks. Partly I think maybe university administrators were behind the curve in terms of how much visual evidence has emerged from the horror, via Tik Tok, Twitter/X, etc.
So their pro-Israel, pro-donor positions quickly became pro-genocide. WTF? Isn’t this kind of a PR disaster for these US institutions of higher learning?

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 20:55 utc | 236

b: If Judging Freedom had interviewed you, will they post your interview? I have not seen it yet. Or it was background interview.
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Oct 10 2024 16:40 utc | 105
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I was wondering the same thing.
Where is the interview?
I have not heard Napolitano mention any such interview with you, b.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 20:57 utc | 237

I know I’m late to this thread but if ANY barfly doesn’t know who is fooling whom, you should go back to kindergarten and start over. There are no $ spent or weapons supplied WITHOUT permission from Tel Aviv. Period. Just look who is in our Congress. Mostly Bolsheviks. Get a clue.

Posted by: John | Oct 10 2024 20:58 utc | 238

They don’t see any value in US soft power, which is in the toilet now, and for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 18:25 utc | 165
American soft power is mainly about consumerism/lifestyle/pop culture. The appeal of that remains colossal regardless of what Washington gets up to.
Politics and foreign policy are secondary. Even then most of the local liberals I know, few but punching above their weight influence wise, are either more or less openly cheering Israel on or fervently trying to pretend nothing is happening while hoping for it to be memory holed as soon as possible.

Posted by: Satepestage | Oct 10 2024 20:59 utc | 239

If this is what people are referring to, it was from Doctorow, not b.
“Others in my audience have not hesitated to say that they think I am wrong, and that indeed Prime Minister Netanyahu is leading Joe Biden & Company around by the nose, which just happens to be the consensus view in mainstream media.
Most of this discussion is not visible to the broad public. However, the ‘Judging Freedom’ channel which has 450,000 subscribers and its host, Judge Andrew Napolitano put my proposition on the dog (USA) wagging the tail (Israel) to several of his best-known panelists in the 24 hours following my interview with him. To be sure, my idea seemed so ‘contrarian’ that it demanded a response from the mightiest minds in the alternative media camp. They obliged. With one exception, the mightiest minds were dismissive of my interpretation in more respectful, less respectful ways”.

Posted by: KMRIA | Oct 10 2024 21:03 utc | 240

This question has been addressed many times already. You probably dont understand because this is very high level 5D, quantum chess. Basically, Iran, Russia, China, Hamas, Hezbollah are too moral and ethical to respond and, by not responding, they are actually responding. They are all utilizing a famous military rule, first postulated by Sun Tzu, which states the ” only path to victory is through defeat. ”
Posted by: Moonie | Oct 10 2024 16:49 utc | 111
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Problem here. The defeat is not theirs but of the Palestinian people.
Which equals their annihilation.
i cannot see the wisdom in this kind of defeat.
People will learn nothing of this, except that lawlessness, shamelessness
and cruelty will go unpunished.

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 21:04 utc | 241

Consider Russia, which, after initially hoping Ukraine would simply roll over, had to accept they were in for a real fight and thus had to bear down with the slow SMO.
Likewise, we have socio-political commenters – perhaps some with real experience in the political arena – seemingly convinced the West is under thrall of a small cadre of arch capitalists, who would readily abandon their bourgeoisie and working class advantages if presented with “the truth”.
But, as one confronts the reality that it is these very classes who would rebel and eviserate anyone in leadership who does not deliver another generation of priviledged excess, one must consider the real fight of actually changing a culture based on predation and piracy.
As Scooby said “rots of ruck”. More importantly, once one realizes the USA would have to be so utterly defeated – like Germany – in order to impose and engineer a complete social makeover, it can be quickly cocluded that that ain’t happening.
So now we enter the realm of real politik, the same calculus Russia reached for itself, in that this kind of world will not exist; the USA will simply push the button.
OK, once all of these mental hurdles are passed, you can find yourself at the junction Putin. XI et al reached: we need to live with these maniacs. We can’t let them impose their rules, but they also aren’t going anywhere.
This is what the multi-polar world is all about, simply going around the crazies like villagers do with a crazed neighbor.

Posted by: Markw | Oct 10 2024 21:04 utc | 242

When will the hoped-for salvation come?
Will it come at all?
Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 20:46 utc | 242

Short answer: NEVER. NOPE, salvation will not come.
Long answer:
Everybody and their dog will be “influenced” in the right direction:
– Russia is busy in Ukraine and with NATO. The want the Arabs to show unity before any move. Divide and rule. Unity is not possible. Besides Russia has some bad memories from some Arabs.
– China wants to trade and advance wealth of it’s population. Science and technology advances and to be the first in the world. They will have a LOT of nice smart city and 6G and IT and EV when nukes come.
– Iran does not want to start WW3 on it’s own and it is under advice by Russia and China and supported with the condition to show restraint.
Most likely can not take on US + UK + Israel all alone no matter how many rockets it has in bunkers.
– Hamas and Hezbollah and Yemen do not have access to the number and kind of advanced rockets Iran or Russia have. They will fight BUT their population is going to become extinct via genocide while to world looks away.
No help will come. They have made big improvements (like Yemen) but do not have enough resources to win.
Russia and China and even Iran will delay and will want to “soft land” the world and US + Israel + UK.
However they do NOT really fight only against US + Israel + UK… there is a more darker force behind that will have no mercy.

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 21:08 utc | 243

S Brennan 99, dude Commies? Wrong century (180 years off). There is and never was any such thing. Every economy in the history of man has been blended. Might as well call them “Orange”. That actually would say more about them. Idiotic talk

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:09 utc | 244

Posted by: juliania | Oct 10 2024 20:46 utc | 241
.. What we don’t need, in the importance of the times, is fruitless, antagonistic argument. I do see what you are saying, james. And lately, because of the clarity we are facing of terrible events, there is a consensus growing, not just here but elsewhere.
Dear juliana, of course “we are facing of terrible events” as you said. But what that “terrible events” may look like within the next months – you’d think is in reality ?
Your expression of a “fruitless, antagonistic argument” (against what?) is a still AI-bots like theoretical issues alike.
Sorry, bot more to keep calm down all these MoAs visitors.
Despite, welcome to MoA ‘pro Russian’ approach members. thanks.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 21:10 utc | 245

You see, we are all, right now, in our different beliefs, like the bear, the wolf, and the rabbit, (and yes, even the scorpion and butterfly), clinging to a great log for dear life as it bobs and turns in the current of a mighty river. That’s true, and what we believe may be completely at odds, one with another. But that’s no longer important because first of all we face annihilation if we contest one another’s beliefs. But there is where the analogy breaks down.
We are not just animals; we need to know one another; it is human, that need. We need, when the log comes to rest, to have that focus on the importance of ‘living and letting live’ continue after the threat has diminished. In places like Russia and China, it does. (They’ve had their own logs and torrents.) The rest of us need to learn from them, to appreciate our differences instead of battling them. Here is where we can learn, as we face what is happening, thanks to b.
It hasn’t been easy, (and it will never be perfect), but I think we are beginning to do that.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 10 2024 21:10 utc | 246

This is what I was trying to discuss the other day but unfortunately after I had outlined how I perceive most of the history of Occupied Palestine and the growth of the deep state/blob/permanent government/MICS in it I left the passage on their leading role somewhat confused because of time pressure.
Let me try again tho time is short for me now too.
The senior level policy makers in the amerikan government are unfortunately permitted to operate with no requirement to abide by any constant formal ethical system. This is unheard of as most other empires whilst still suffering from a degree of corruption were nevertheless expected to adhere to certain principles. The mandarins in China whose need to be honest and work only for the betterment of China often had failings & were subject to selfish & rapacious types from time to time but more often than not if caught punishment was severe, just as it is in the upper echelons of the Party now.
The same was true of england’s civil service where many corrupt officials did dreadful things, however most did not. Unfortunately as england declines so does its standard of civil servants who against all convention & rules have become nearly as politicised as their amerikan counterparts.
Of course many amerikans see the politicisation of their senior administrators as a feature not a bug and they expect a new political administration to bring in new civil administrators whose primary loyalty is to their political bosses.
Interestingly though it isn’t the civil administrators who come in with the new regime amerikans need to be wary of, it is those who hang in there doing their thing no matter who is in power. Nuland who survived 4 or 5 different administrations is the obvious example. There are many Nulands particularly among those civil administrators of a zionist bent.
This I reckon is more because no one wants to be considered anti-semitic than anything else, but the truth is these hang in through thick & thin types need to be dismissed because their policies have been unsuccessful, not because they are a particular belief or ethnicity, yet it doesn’t happen, most likely because their line of BS appeals to pols in both halves of the uniparty.
These types are chiefly amerikan citizen who have managed to get into unassailable positions where they can fulfil their personal beliefs to their hearts desire, we all see the terrible result. Nuland was dismissed when her liking for publicity made her too well known. I have no doubt that there will be hundreds of other permanent administrators who know not to become some sort of celebrity arsehole.
IMO it is several generations of these ‘behind the scenes’ administrators who constructed then entrenched the zionist money go round where amerikan money goes to large government contractors who then pay off as many pols as possible to ensure that contracts keep coming in such a way that it is so intertwined with the amerikan corporate economy demolition is impossible. The ultimate perpetual motion machine they believe.
So I reckon the dog is still wagging the tail and the perception that it is the other way around is an inherent part of what makes the machine indestructible. When amerikans get angry about this, they get angry with the fascist netanyahu, not the actual bosses.
the bibi creep didn’t answer to biden or trump or oblamblam but he does answer to amerika’s empire machine,.
He is an amerikan creature raised & educated in amerika placed in the gig by that machine and acting on their instructions. Anything else would have fallen apart decades ago as the machine would fund and support an opponent if he wasn’t doing as instructed. This business of seeing israeli zionists as the perps is a vital deceit for both.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 10 2024 21:13 utc | 247

Posted by: juliania | Oct 10 2024 21:10 utc | 257
..It hasn’t been easy, (and it will never be perfect), but I think we are beginning to do that. ..
Dear juliana, what do you mean by “..we are beginning to do that ..”
Whqat is “WE” and what “we” have begun to do “that” ..?
What is “that” you/we’ve alraedy “todo” “that” ..
What is “that” ? .. Calling some smipers against .. or what?
Pls keep clear to your posts here on MoA !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 21:18 utc | 248

Norwegian 117, no, the Afghan pullout was scheduled for the first week of the Biden Administration, which shows Trump’s craven cowardice. Biden delayed the pullout for 5 months, then couldn’t any longer. I supported pulling out. But for Trump to set the day on Biden’s watch show what a piece of shit fraud he is.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:21 utc | 249

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 21:08 utc | 254
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Thank for your input.
I fear that is the realistic outcome.
It’s just so wrong.
What UN, ICJ and ICC and all.

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 21:27 utc | 250

The PTB don’t want to take on Iran whether this is unanimous consensus or consensus emerging from internal bickering… whether that’s because they blinked or whether it’s calculations of self-interest (that is not an exclusive or) doesn’t matter. In a larger time frame, this is the beginning of the end of the scumpire.
At the same time, definitely the consensus is to let Israel clean up in Lebanon and Gaza if possible, and provide all necessary assistance. And to rein Israel in when they go too far:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/10/us-slams-suggestion-of-targeting-muslim-scholar-al-sistani-by-israeli-tv
The vassals have also been instructed that the attack on UNIFIL goes too far, and they need to condemn it, even if the US cannot and will not, for various obviousnrrasons… This let’s Israel know they are isolated on this sort of thing…
Steven Starr who used to post here had a very good article on the potential effect of the use of an EMP weapon in/on the US… as such technologies become ubiquitous, the scumpire loses its edge and hold…
Of course there is a transnational class of actors beyond the US, but they are hardly a unitary actor.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 10 2024 21:27 utc | 251

Israel can do what they are doing for a long long time. People will leave. Standard of living will go down. Embargoes will continue. There will be massive PTSD. Only the extremist will be left but Israel will still be there.
We are one year into the near cessation of food entering Gaza and critical infrastructure to provide water destroyed. What will be the result at five years? At ten years?
Time is on Israels side in a decade or so perspective.. Just like Ukraine they really dont need a functioning economy. They are on the dole.
Israel really doesn’t care about long term. Flash in the pan. They will finish the job in Gaza, Lebanon, and West bank.
Chaos is indeed the goal not long term consequences for the so called nation. Iraq Syria Libya all chaos. Long term consequences will indeed finish Israel. Judaism will move on just like it always does. Zionism will end its statement made and USA with it. Both are considered consumables.
Is it right? No. Who is going to stop it? No one.
Wait till Trump gets in and the full range of covert options is available to Israel. This is just paid time off now. Administrative leave.

Posted by: BoogieKnights | Oct 10 2024 21:33 utc | 252

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:21 utc | 261
..what a piece of shit fraud he is. ..”
Trump may be “a piece of shit” you ‘argued’ today, but pls. wait for the elections in the US-friendly states.
When then, Trump performs a real ‘turning back’ what he’s saying before, that would be the “Civil war” in USA, believe for sure, today !
Keep Trump ‘alive’ as long he’ll be alive on his currently ongoing election campaigns.
You (dear MoA ‘Scottindallas’) are not able to hinder Trump, anyways

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 21:35 utc | 253

“Posted by: Outraged | Oct 10 2024 13:49 utc | 5”
Sorry, “The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor money to the intelligent, nor bread to the wise, but time and chance come to them all.” — Ecclesiastes 9:11

Posted by: lester | Oct 10 2024 21:36 utc | 254

Unfortunately, those that say Netyanhu and the lobby run America want to have it both ways.
Out of this side of their mouth
” Look somebody stepped in and stopped long range missiles to Ukraine and both Republicans and Democrats ( apparently run by the lobby ) wanted long range missiles to be delivered to Ukraine ”
Our of the other side of their mouth
” Israel can do what it wants because both Republicans and Democrats ( apparently run by the lobby ) doesn’t stop them ”
Well which is it ?
They can’t have it both ways, but want to have it both ways.
Their first statement says somebody put the Senate and Congress on a leash.
Their second comment says there is no leash and nobody can stop them. Even though the CIA and Pentagon have shown 3 times this is not the case.
Their theory is confused and trying to cut it both ways. Fooling nobody who has watched both the CIA and Pentagon neuter Netenyahu’s rage against Iran.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Oct 10 2024 21:38 utc | 255

It the article it is argued that the following was another example of failed US fpreign Policy
“…the hostage taking at the American embassy in Teheran by the new revolutionary Iranian leadership there that overthrew the American backed Shah. ”
But that wasnt a failure, it was deliberate and the US wanted that occupation to have an excuse for intervening.
And that ‘US-backed Shah’ knew it was the US who ousted him.
The reason for the need of that excuse was that the US was threatening the Europeans that the US would block their energy from the ME if they went along with the new financial instrument. Backed like a petrocurrency.
UK was totally against those plans but France West-Germany the USSR Japan and OPEC were involved and the new financial instrument was to be used for development of the third world.
That was apparently OPECs condition.
Those who reported it between 1978 and 1981 were later threatened presumably with some costly defamation case,
It concerned some of the Iranian stooges to the USG
See for example Robert Dreyfus book Hostage to Khomeini (1981).
And the whole idea subsided along with the ‘Iranian revolution’ actually set in motion by the UK and US.
And USSRs entry into the Afghan war.
A war also actually deliberately provoked by the US.
The anglosaxons control most branches of opinionmaking.
The CIA has confirmed that the US/UK ousted Mossadegh but they hide that they also ousted the Shah 25 years later.
And the abovementioned plans also involved industralisation of the less developed economies using nuclear power. That too was someting the US/UK wanted to prevent. What happened in Iran – where the Shah had predicted that they would become the worlds fifth economy – was that Khomeini closed the nuclear power projects already started.
So this hidden part of History behind the more wellknown occupation of the embassy involved several threats to the US/UK agenda. But the threat came from the west. They wanted to support industrialisation bringing rival economy’s rocking the boat for the US/UK oligarchy.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 10 2024 21:38 utc | 256

Snake 133, no, that’s colonialism, Zionist and Jews weren’t there. Economics was a Scottish endeavor, it was pure extraction economics then. It’s all finance now. It was the Scottish who owned and ran the cattle drives of the Wild West (most desegregated workplace in the world then). Zionism is a recent development and a product of colonialism, not the other way around. It’s a product of WW1, was inconceivable before that. Stop it

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:38 utc | 257

@ Tobias Cole | Oct 10 2024 20:08 utc | 219
May be interested. Related comments, Karlof1 & myself on other thread here
(for-doubters-hizbullah-reports-that-it-is-back.).
karlof1 | Oct 10 2024 18:57 utc | 437
Outraged | Oct 10 2024 20:48 utc | 440

Posted by: Outraged | Oct 10 2024 21:40 utc | 258

@bog, @Honzo
But that means on the other hand that Israel will continue as is or even bigger with the stolen lands, the laughing winner in the end.
Consequently the idea that THEIR-Israel’s end is set in stone, is unrealistic…
Every man for himself is then the main motto of international politics, even if politicians like to pretend otherwise…
The alms distributed to the resistance and Palestinian people, may they run into the millions, are then just for show of goodwill, self-congratulation, a show of color for their peers, to reassure the outraged public that everything is just fine and they are doing their jobs….
Management of public dissent.

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 21:43 utc | 259

@ Jane | Oct 10 2024 20:55 utc | 246
Yes, I had thought of mentioning the removal of university presidents at the behest of Zionist donors, so thanks for doing that. What was amazing to me was that these Zionist donors were indeed outed to the public in an unprecedented way. Most of the ruling elite of the superrich like to do all their dirty business in secret, but in this case, the Zionists felt so threatened by the outburst of campus demonstrations across the country that they had to react forcefully, even if that meant exposing themselves by name to scrutiny.
The sinews of power in the US have been exposed as never before by the prison revolt of 7 Oct. Things can never be put back the way they were before. What is coming is uncertain but very probably violent and unpleasant.

Posted by: Cabe | Oct 10 2024 21:44 utc | 260

Of immediate concern is the question of whether psychopaths with eschatological delusion cause the Entity to cease to exist in sudden, massive violence, or allow actual human beings to negotiate a place for Jewish residents in the new state. Left to their own devices I think the answer is the former, but hopefully there are some people close to the levers of power who see this and will take action.
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:15 utc | 259

I often hear here in the bar this idea that “psychopaths” control the world or corporations or the City or some organization.
Psychopaths are born not made (this is a problem) and are a tiny percent of humans (0.003 or something) and most likely exist because we need people with less emotions in critical situations.
They can be good brain or heart surgeons of serial killers or good police investigators.
If you really met a psychopath and you have not said “good day” you are most likely already “dead” but they do not care to become a CEO.
Psychopaths do NOT care for ruling over many people (2 or 3 maybe or 25 in a sequence maybe but not more)
They have their own projects and do not care for world domination.
Most bodyguards and fixers or killers that work for the “shadow group” are psychopaths for obvious reasons: they perform better at such tasks and have low emotions about it.
But NONE of the top “shadow group” that rule the world is a psychopath.
However the real world problem are “sociopaths”.
Sociopaths do care what people think about them and do want to be the top dog of big organizations. The most ferocious killers and people that can kill billions are sociopaths. Sociopaths are made no born.
There is a “small problem” with that: 99.99% (or more) of humans are sociopaths.
Most CEO, board directors, City, bankers, politicians, criminals, bad people that pretend to be good are sociopaths.

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 21:45 utc | 261

Like any metaphor, it is not perfect, but I think it’s more useful than a dog and tail.
Posted by: Rahul | Oct 10 2024 16:59 utc | 115
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Dog/tail is merely shorthand, used for the purposes of saving space to announce the topic. Everyone understands what is meant by it.
Many metaphors, imagery, etc. have been proposed.
They all add something to the picture of actual power flows between Israel, the US govt, and Zionists of various types.
Your points are spot on, regarding the parasite’s stealth (kind of like the Alien in the movie of that name, which lives inside the scientist for a long time before gruesomely exploding his body!), and the role of the Holocaust story in maintaining the facade narrative and hence mystifying the actual relationship between the host and the parasite.
The parasite definitely does not want to kill its host—after all, that’s where the money comes from! In nature how is this regulated? Sometimes parasites do kill their hosts, and that might happen to Israel/US. The parasite has definitely weakened the host.
Or, to stay with nature, is the whole thing more like a lichen? A lichen is a composite organism (which the US-Israel surely is):
“Lichens are a complex life form that is a symbiotic partnership of two separate organisms, a fungus and an alga. The dominant partner is the fungus, which gives the lichen the majority of its characteristics. . .”
“Lichens are another such partnership for fungi to gain nutrients from another organism. The algal partner photosynthesizes and provides food for the fungus, so it can grow and spread.”
In this partnership Zionism can be viewed as a fungus that can gain nutrients from multiple sources so as to expand into more niches.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 21:45 utc | 262

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:33 utc | 266
..I think you win today’s prize for lack of clarity. Grammar and spelling are your friends if you want clarity. ..
Definitely now, dear Honzo.
I like grammars in ‘one’ sentence to be a “correct” written isues as you like ‘it’ having You as a Prof. of Harvard students like sounding herto, like that.
Pls think about dead peaople stil shot down on either side.
That’s Your Deep-State goals to have been achievved ..!
ASny questions still today – 2024-10-10 ?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 21:45 utc | 263

Israeli war crime: Bombs Iranian field hospital on Syrian/Lebanese border

Iran condemns Israeli on hospital in Syria-Lebanon border area as clear example of war crimes.
#Iran #Syria #Lebanon #WarCrimes #ZionistRegime

https://t.me/presstv/113730

An Israeli airstrike targeted Iran’s 56-bed field hospital on the Syrian-Lebanese border, which had been set up to provide aid to displaced Lebanese people. The facility, marked clearly with Red Crescent flags and symbols, housed food supplies, medical equipment, and medicines.

https://t.me/presstv/113731

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 10 2024 21:46 utc | 264

Jim C 138, don’t be stupid, those are real asylum seekers with legit claims. The US has been rampaging across South and Central America for centuries. There are real consequences for that.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 21:46 utc | 265

Dogs are a better species than humans, the latter which have proven through their actions against each other and against Nature they have no right to exist. Extinction is inevitable for all species, but humans with their giant egos are doomed to self extinction. Good riddance … let Nature start over with a new process of evolution.

Posted by: norecovery | Oct 10 2024 21:47 utc | 266

Yup.
We are witnessing the violent death rattles of unipolarism and living the birth pangs of a multipolar world.
Sowing chaos is exactly the strategy for the bigger prize, best described in this Truthout piece from 2021:
Progressives Can’t Ignore Role of Christian Zionism in Colonization of Palestine by Jonathan Brenneman & Aidan Orly
https://truthout.org/articles/progressives-cant-ignore-role-of-christian-zionism-in-colonization-of-palestine/

Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 21:48 utc | 267

courtesy of 21 st century wire
“as we speak, Israel is laying the foundations for a brand new array “security roads” all across the Gaza Strip. These special roads will be fortified with watchtowers, cannons, and permanent military stations – allow them to monitor and carry out targeted killings of Palestinians along any point of this territory, but without occupying the entire territory. But that’s not all, there is a larger plan which has now emerged.
Phase one of Israel’s end game has finally come into view: the Zionist regime in Tel Aviv is now unveiling its apartheid plan which it seeks to implement once sufficient ethnic cleansing and extermination of the native Palestinian population has been accomplished. Beyond their proposed 5 occupation corridors within the Gaza Strip, colonial expansionists plan to erect a series segregated ghettos for the purpose of isolating groups of the native population in order to gradually pick-off and subdue the Resistance.
Publicly, the Netanyahu regime are claiming that their new plans are only meant to contain and eliminate Hamas in Gaza – which they say is the only way to guarantee the safety of Israelis. However, these new realities only confirm what many already suspected: that Israel is effectively constructing large modern day concentration camps. Following this process, the Israelis will be in a stronger position to finally destroy the remainder of the Gaza Strip, before either killing or ethnically cleansing the remaining Palestinian inhabitants.
As Israeli boots on the ground will be permanent, then new illegal Israeli settlements will most likely be constructed throughout Gaza, protected by this new chain of IDF bases.

Posted by: Jo | Oct 10 2024 21:50 utc | 268

In response to

He is an amerikan creature raised & educated in amerika placed in the gig by that machine and acting on their instructions. Anything else would have fallen apart decades ago as the machine would fund and support an opponent if he wasn’t doing as instructed. This business of seeing israeli zionists as the perps is a vital deceit for both.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 10 2024 21:13 utc | 258

A slight digression but I will never give you a hard time for the length of your comments…
The only point I want to add is that, as an American, I am sensitive to the condemnation of our world being placed on my country, like Germany in WWII, when we are just more human meatsacks living in under a top down inherited form of social organization.
How much of what we are going through is predicated on maintaining that social/financial hegemony that I keep saying is transnational?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 269

@ William Gruff | Oct 10 2024 17:30 utc | 137
well said william.. i think you are bang on.. thanks…
@ dh-mtl | Oct 10 2024 18:44 utc | 175
thanks for your additional thoughts here too..
@ juliania | Oct 10 2024 20:46 utc | 241
i am sorry juliania, but i definitely confused you… what i meant is it is about right and wrong, but not how you think of these terms.. i left off the ‘of these terms’ which is what threw you off.. either way, i like and agree with what you’ve said here.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 270

Posted by: bog | Oct 10 2024 21:45 utc | 276
There is a “small problem” with that: 99.99% (or more) of humans are sociopaths.
_____
In that case, why bother?

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 271

Stein is the only choice. A poor choice but not a insane choice of the other two.
Biden and Poroshenko at 4:00
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NjCqTM8sskfq
Posted by: BoogieKnights | Oct 10 2024 20:23 utc | 228
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Stein, even if she could get elected, would have non or few allies in the House nor the Senate. The thing that is bugging you (and others) is that the deep state has checkmated the bourgeois liberal democratic political system, in most western capitalist countries, and the voters really have no voice in the matter even though we vote.
There is an answer, but it isn’t very pretty.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 10 2024 21:52 utc | 272

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:33 utc | 266
Sorry, but my latest “mis-spellings” as an answewr to you have been intentially spoken as those.
Now, what’s Your comment about that ?
I’ll waiting for an answer of the ‘Master of Californian US-Young AI IT-Profs’ or from a US-Harvard Profs. tested guy still being having that ‘license’ ..?
Pls answer me, if having no doubts about “that” ..

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 21:52 utc | 273

Order from Chaos
Redemption through transgression.
The Luciferian Law of Reversal
It’s not hard folks, level the levellers.

Posted by: Sabbatei Tzvi | Oct 10 2024 21:53 utc | 274

@ psychohistorian | Oct 10 2024 21:51 utc | 284
james, i agree with you on that.. the monster may have got hold of the usa and is using it, but we can’t blame the usa for all of this.. in a sense they play a part, but are not the source.. i’d be quicker to blame the city of london.. it is one big multiple headed hydra..

Posted by: james | Oct 10 2024 21:53 utc | 275

In other words, your obsession with “Alex Jones or Dancing Jew’s” influence over the nation appears to be based on somewhat delusional thinking…the powerful pedophiles of Epstein’s black book have done far worse and escaped without so much as a scratch. If you must have an outlet for your hatred perhaps you should consider latching hatred onto one of those demented pedophiles?
Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2024 18:56 utc | 178
Fair points! I certainly oppose the zios, nazis and demented pedos above anyone else. I just don’t like the liars in America who would be instantly ready to genocide China given the chance: Alex Jones, Warface Carlson, etc. And the dancing jew is just a despicable example of hatemongering against China, not at all unlike the hatemongering performed by the west on Ukraine that has now resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians. That’s why I oppose Jones and his “CCP” propaganda and other lies: he’s only money and power away from killing a million taiwanese or philippine people; no better than Nuland.

Posted by: Michael A | Oct 10 2024 21:54 utc | 276

@Jo-Oh. I think it’s pretty clear that Moonie is joking or trolling when he says they are all utilizing a famous military rule, first postulated by Sun Tzu, which states the ” only path to victory is through defeat.” Especially since there’s no evidence Sun Tzu ever said it. It’s pretty clear at this point that so far the states that have most severely attacked Germany have been Ukraine, via the physical destruction of the multi-billion EU Nordstream pipeline and the US more generally by forcing Germany to scupper its own fundamental economic interests.
Russia is positively innocuous in comparison, although one might argue it is unavoidably putting the squeeze on German industry and economy. If this can be done to Germany, a principal NATO state, what cannot be done with Machiavellian strategy aforethought in the case of ME, whose most weakest points (the ones that generate casus belli easiest) are made manifest through the phenomenon of terrorism, otherwise so useless, counterproductive, and self-destructive?
These ‘resistance’ organizations, like Hezbollah and Hamas, are black boxes (rationally and definitionally entirely untrustworthy to themselves, not to speak of Fanonian admirers in the West), which at the same time, certainly in the case of Hamas, are dependent on billions of dollars proffered by the likes of Qatar and facilitated by Mossad.
When Hezbollah offers to support Hamas, this is cause for significant doubt and suspicion on the part of any awake observer. Needless to say the level of corruption alone in these organizations is doubtless as great or worse than that alleged against the PLO. In light of this certain immense corruption, and without any statal tradition, these entities can be no better, and probably are much worse, than states, qua reactionary militias and cartels, which ultimately serve established states in a clandestine capacity.
The ultimate question is What state or states does Hamas work for—this is where the gist or marrow of the Orwellian conspiracy lies. Any good that Hamas might have offered the people they presume to represent and defend was undone and reversed, unmeasurable times over, when they executed Oct 7 and brought the temple columns down almost exclusively on the heads of their own people and those within their ranks not lofty enough to live in palaces far removed from the center of such black box operations, which are either presented as ingeniously evil or barbarously dimwitted and shortsighted. When in reality they are invaluable cannon fodder for the Empire at the proximate time and place of its choosing, especially if that place is in the closest vicinity to that epitome of the security state known as Israel.

Posted by: Ludovic | Oct 10 2024 21:56 utc | 277

Jane @ 277
A closer comparison than lichen would be ….
‘Slime mould’.
Worth lookinking up.
Remember the film ‘quater mass’

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 10 2024 21:58 utc | 278

It is clear what the Russian position is wrt. US goals in the Middle East

🇷🇺🇺🇳 Statements by the Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya:
▪️Israel views civilian casualties as some kind of collateral damage in the spirit of “you chop down a forest, and the chips fly.”
▪️The United States continues to block any attempts by UN Security Council members to make a decision that would allow for a ceasefire in Gaza.
▪️The desire of some UN Security Council members not to put the United States in an awkward position is hindering the adoption of important decisions on resolving the situation in the Middle East.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/130064

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 10 2024 22:01 utc | 279

I think ultimately we all hope that justice will be served.
No it won’t!
wishful thinking, dreaming, hallucinating.
But the resistance will continue to fight as long as they can.
All that remains is the hope for a better outcome, against all odds and chances and realism.

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 22:02 utc | 280

Not just military aid it was aid that was defined as “lethal military aid” intended to be used by the Zelensky govt against Russians that lived in the Donbas region….
The anti-Trumpers don’t care that Trump initiated that aid in the first place and the delay in delivery was inconsequential.
Posted by: jinn | Oct 10 2024 16:18 utc | 92
The phone call from Trump to Zelensky was in July, 2019, to congratulate Zelensky on his inauguration. Zelensky was newly elected, on a peace with Donbass platform.
The lethal military aid had been going on since 2014, when Obama was president and Biden helped midwife the coup.
Zelensky hadn’t even yet gone to the Donbass and tried to stop the Azov boys from shelling civilians. That was in October, and it led to them telling him to go f..k himself, while he told them he wasn’t some schmuck.
When he got back to Kiev he found out differently.
The impeachment was because Democrats are craven, war mongering a-holes. Yes, they would use anything to impeach, but they seized upon that.
It is telling that we went through the entire impeachment circus without the Democrats once mentioning why it was so important to them that the Kiev regime kill Ukrainian civilians.
AND the FBI sat on Hunter’s laptop that entire time, instead of entering it as evidence that Hunter Biden and his daddy are corrupt, as the fired Ukrainian prosecutor was about to prove.
Oh, and as for the naive belief of Pearce:
I think one should consider whether Mossad has some seriously damaging compromat on Biden, beyond the seriousness of the Prince Andrew underage girls scandal. I am talking pictures and film and witnesses.
Posted by: Pearce Tournier | Oct 10 2024 16:02 utc | 84
That same withheld from evidence laptop contains seriously damaging evidence of what you assert here. Ever seen it?
When the Deep State wants to damage someone, it does. When they protect someone, it doesn’t matter what evidence is available.
Recall that Hunter’s nickname for his dad is Pedo Pete.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 10 2024 22:02 utc | 281

Im not buying. I get what alot are saying here yet… So whats all the lobbying for? If israel is the puppet whats all the influence for? Why does it exist? Maybe some one at the bar who holds the view that the us is the master could explain that?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Oct 10 2024 22:06 utc | 282

Posted by: juliania | Oct 10 2024 21:10 utc | 257
Salaam dear juliania. When Noah (And Salaam Be upon Nuh of the Blessed Ark & Blessed Landing to the Shore of Safety) despaired of the world of his age, he turned to God and exclaimed Help me my LORD, for I am overcome!.
فَدَعَا رَبَّهُ أَنِّي مَغْلُوبٌ فَانْتَصِرْ
Thereat he invoked his Lord
. I have been overcome!
. so help [me]!

[Al-Qamar Q:54:10]
And God directed His devotee abd and instructed him in the building of an Ark. And in it went in all manner of animal and the ‘seed’ of all manner of vegetation. Pairs, two & two. And so to went in all members of his family save one son who sought safety in ‘raised earth’ thinking it beyond the reach of rising waters. No log nor raft nor a ‘high place’ can protect any and the safe journey and the blessed landing is only for those who seek shelter in the Ark. And this ark is “No god but God” which is the first part of the declaration of the Surrendered Self at Salaam.
Certainly tolerance follows faithfully in the footsteps of penetration of the Light of Unity in the intellect of any Sentient Knower, that is Aalim. And Allah Is the Lord of the Knowing Realms.
In the blessed Gita, which primarily deals with the matter of the Greater Jihad within, we read Lord Krishna teaching His friend Arjuna on the correct positioning of the Striving Soul (aka IsraEL) when meditating. An elaboration of His beautiful teaching requires its own space so here we focus on the 3 coverings for the seat of the devotee of the Supreme Self, that the Eternal Living One. Progressively my Lord teaches a layer of ‘grass’ then “animal skin” then ‘linen’. The grass is vegetative nature, the skin animal nature, and the linen is the cultural matrix one is born into. It represents the fruit of man’s mind and intellect, artifact, and while clearly of great utility (as in ‘garment’) it is something to be overcome as are the lower level ‘coverings’ and ‘natures’.
I wish you dear juliana, a blessed journey and a blessed landing
and Salaam.

Posted by: sunof27 | Oct 10 2024 22:07 utc | 283

Not just Ukraine and Israel, USA has many other irons on fire. Taiwan, Pakistan, etc. There’s no appetite for war in any of these places but Biden and Harris push them to war to sow chaos hoping that nations will rally behind USA for leadership to take the world out of chaos and for a rules based world order.
Little that they know USA is the cause of chaos. Well, the world is slowly coming to senses. Israel, Ukraine, ISIS, Pakistan, Taiwan, etc. are fighting USA’s proxy wars.
The danger is if US proxies lose the wars, that sends a negative signal to the world – aligning with the US is a disaster. If that happens the entire aim of sowing chaos backfires. No nation will want USA to lead them (to ruination).
An unfortunate Harris presidency will have to manage this fallout. A handpicked secondee by and of a chaotic Biden cannot be any better. Chaos choose chaos. The word starts with B and ends with H. How apt!

Posted by: Jason | Oct 10 2024 22:08 utc | 284

Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:33 utc | 266
As you’ve said:
.. “I think you win today’s prize for lack of clarity. Grammar and spelling are your friends if you want clarity. ..
Thanks, You got my aim spoken here. The “Spelling” (whether true nor false, whoever that judges) is always a good ‘weapon’ to go on a fight between neighbors on its MSMs. So I do continue some of that ‘mis-spellings’ to ‘fire-up’ some guys here into their thinkings.
Sorry, you’re a good poerson, but not yet ready to prevent the ongoing genocide on Gaza + Lebanon + the WestBank-Syria.
Pls: Make it better to report and/or suggest from/at any possible “Counter methods” against IDF’S Zionist guided dailay attacks on Gaza/Lebanon.
Think about “some” Snipers to stop that all desatrous ongoing Genocide.
Please!

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 22:08 utc | 285

Mouse 163, Ahmenijad said, as Hamas states the “occupation regime in Israel” will not last. That is not necessarily Israel
As topolitical contributions those other lobbies out spend AIPAC, but they don’t challenge the pro-Israel position, only another foreign interest would matter.
US Adventurism started in 1700s, our first war was against Algiers and the Turks who ruled the Mediterranean when England and Spain were mighty, but not might enough to fight the North African corsairs. England and Spain preferred to pay a tribute to Algiers, the US sent 3 flotillas to attack the Algerians, resorting to terrorism but failed and decided to pay tribute rather than fight.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 22:12 utc | 286

@ludovic
read your comment to late.
So you mean to say the resistance in the form of the aforementioned organizations is untrustworthy and their fight is also just for show?
that would mean the perceived lack of efficient impact on strategic sensible goals is NOT due to lack of better armament but lack of intent.
Too tired for that shit, hope you’re wrong!:)

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 22:13 utc | 287

I think you and Doctorow are correct, although I also think there’s still a lot of muddling. That is, Biden (who is the same guy he’s always been and surrounded himself with people who agree) wants to “remake” the world in the neoconservative sense of the early 00’s but he and his people aren’t very competent so they’re muddling along with nothing but a vague idea rather than a serious plan.
They like the idea of reshaping the Middle East and probably have lots of talks about grand plans but they don’t have detailed plans to do it. They don’t consider limits to their influence and power or how to respond to reactions from other states or actors. It’s why they can’t recalibrate when things aren’t going according to the “plan” in Ukraine or when they find themselves aiding and abetting genocide in west Asia. All they’ve got is “do more of what made the mess”.
The crisis of competence is partly that Biden has never been smart or competent so he’s attracted similar but less competent people to be his lackeys. And it’s partly that Biden and his people still believe that the U.S. and the world are pretty much the same as the early 2000’s. This means they don’t know how to cope with a Russia that’s strong and doesn’t listen or a world that’s angry about genocide. They assume they can do anything without cost or consequence. In other words, they got themselves into a hole and their only solution is to keep digging.

Posted by: Lex | Oct 10 2024 22:14 utc | 288

Tannenhouser @297
The Israeli lobby is way smaller than the Christian Zionist influence.
It is foregrounded to distract.
Progressives Can’t Ignore Role of Christian Zionism in the Colonization of Palestine
https://truthout.org/articles/progressives-cant-ignore-role-of-christian-zionism-in-colonization-of-palestine/
“In the U.S., Christian Zionists are the most numerous and most right-wing voting bloc for Israel. The largest Christian Zionist organization, CUFI, boasts 10 million members, far eclipsing the 100,000 members belonging to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC, the much more famous pro-Israel lobbying organization. One out of every four adults in the United States identifies as Evangelical Christian, and 80 percent of Evangelical Christians, or 20 percent of the U.S. population, reportedly believe the gathering of millions of Jews by the State of Israel signifies the nearing of Jesus’ second coming. The power of Christian Zionism in the U.S. is summed up in a recent interview with Ron Dermer, a close ally of Israeli right-wing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a former Israeli ambassador to the United States:
‘The backbone of Israel’s support in the United States is the evangelical Christians. It’s true because of numbers, and also because of their passionate and unequivocal support for Israel…. About 25% of Americans — some people think more — are Evangelical Christians. Less than 2% of Americans are Jews…. If you look just at numbers, you should be spending a lot more time doing outreach to Evangelical Christians than you would to Jews. But also look at the passionate support. For most Evangelicals in the United States, certainly for many of them, Israel is one of the most important issues to them. For some it’s number one. For others, it may be number two or number three…. It’s very rare to hear Evangelicals criticize Israel.'”

Posted by: Irish | Oct 10 2024 22:16 utc | 289

erase ‘efficient’.
‘effective’ would be the right wording…

Posted by: Jo-Oh | Oct 10 2024 22:16 utc | 290

Re “soft power,”
“Joseph Nye popularized the concept of “soft power” in the late 1980s. For Nye, power is the ability to influence the behavior of others to get the outcomes you want.”
Without having to resort to “hard [military] power,” obviously.
The US has totally abandoned diplomacy, and many of its other soft power assets, such as sports, “culture” (films; music; literature; scholarship; scientific research), practicality and egalitarianism, and admired (even in the breach) values such as freedom of speech no longer command credibility or have lost credibility.
Our universities have lost credibility with many potential foreign undergraduates and graduate students.
These and other “soft power” institutions and values have been corrupted and devalued by both Zionist and Woke ideologies.
The iron fist is ever more clearly revealed under the velvet soft-power glove as we attack our adversaries and engage in terrorism and then think we can pull the wool over the world’s eyes. Such as in assassinations, fomenting rebellion, or terrorist acts such as the Nord Stream sabotage.
Basically the glove is off and we go straight to violence and coercion to “get the outcomes we want.”
Any leader who uses soft power (such a Putin) or does not go directly to “Fire!” is viewed as weak.
The bellicose bluster of a demented Joe Biden not only is pathetic but evokes feelings of horror and disgust on the world stage.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 291

No, it was scheduled for May 1st, 2021. The schedule was agreed on in February, 2020. Are you suggesting that Trump knew he would lose the election?
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:39 utc | 272
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I suspect that Trump knew that he could lose (he isn’t stupid) so he wanted to hand over the dirty deed to Biden. If he won, he could do what he always does, change his mind.

Posted by: Ed | Oct 10 2024 22:19 utc | 292

Posted by: sunof27 | Oct 10 2024 22:07 utc | 298
How wonderful! True spirituality, as opposed to the poisonous bigoted stuff posted by the likes of LoveDonbass and their ilk, who remain stuck in their garments and mistake it for Allah!

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 10 2024 22:20 utc | 293

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
The iron fist is ever more clearly revealed under the velvet soft-power glove as we attack our adversaries and engage in terrorism and then think we can pull the wool over the world’s eyes. Such as in assassinations, fomenting rebellion, or terrorist acts such as the Nord Stream sabotage.
Basically the glove is off and we go straight to violence and coercion to “get the outcomes we want.”
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That time is coming to an end… at first slowly, and then suddenly all at once… I’m hoping we’re getting closer to the suddenly all at once stage… there are signs and portents in the air that make me optimistic.

Posted by: Turdworld | Oct 10 2024 22:27 utc | 294

Yemeni Armed Forces Launches Strikes on US, Other Ships, Response to Violations
News – Yemen: The Yemeni Armed Forces announced the execution of two military operations targeting an American ship in the Red Sea and another ship in the Indian Ocean.

Armed Forces spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Saree explained that the first operation targeted the American oil ship “Olympic Spirit” with 11 ballistic missiles and two drones, confirming that the ship was directly hit and suffered severe damage.
Armed Forces spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Sare’e explained in a statement that the first operation targeted the American oil ship “OLYMPIC SPIRIT” with 11 ballistic missiles and two drones, confirming that the ship was directly hit and suffered severe damage.
The Armed Forces announced the targeting of the ship “SAINT JOHN” in the Indian Ocean with a cruise missile, confirming a direct hit on the target.
Armed Forces clarified that the targeting of this ship came in response to the violation by its owning company of the ban imposed on entering the ports of occupied Palestine.
The Armed Forces emphasized their continued imposition of the naval blockade on the Israeli enemy, affirming that they will not hesitate to target any ship that violates this ban or supports Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people in Gaza or the Lebanese people.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2024 22:31 utc | 295

No, it was scheduled for May 1st, 2021. The schedule was agreed on in February, 2020. Are you suggesting that Trump knew he would lose the election?
Posted by: Honzo | Oct 10 2024 21:39 utc | 272
The withdrawal was to be done in two parts, by treaty. The first half of the troops were removed in 2020, while Trump was still president.
The second half were to be removed on May 1st, 2021. Then Biden broke the treaty and announced that the troops were staying, which led to the Taliban renewing their fight.
The Taliban won. Then Biden stole (“froze”) their sovereign funds, leading to mass hardship in Afghanistan.
That’s how he rolls.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 10 2024 22:34 utc | 296

Sun of Alabama 206, what delusion, American Christians are the Zionist problem. It’s idiotic christians that are the problem.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Oct 10 2024 22:36 utc | 297

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 10 2024 21:38 utc | 270
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I would like to be able to follow your narrative/ideas, but your writing is too jumbled up to present a clear story or analysis of what occurred in Iran.

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:37 utc | 298

Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
“.. Basically the glove is off and we go straight to violence and coercion to “get the outcomes we want.”
The so-called ‘Soft-Power’ is a bullshit expression, hereto.
That means, all the currently escalating US-Wars (in UKR + ME) could be won in a “soft” manner, next months.
That’s not true, and won’t be.
All today’s war strategical aims of the US Blackrock/Nuland/Blinken puppets
Any leader who still uses so-called Soft Power or does not go directly to “Fire!” is viewed as weak.
Why is that?
Because “we” have somthing like Nethan’s Zionist guys still ruling the RoW, incl.all of UN hopeless complaints against Israhell/Zionist’s murderer regime .. PLUS their Folk claiming 90% standing behind “its” Gov.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 10 2024 22:18 utc | 306
.. “The bellicose bluster of a demented Joe Biden not only is pathetic but evokes feelings of horror and disgust on the world stage. ..”
That’s only that it is so far regarding ‘opinions – no more no less.
Search for aq same like thinking cheap snipers group! You can pay them.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Oct 10 2024 22:40 utc | 299

meanwhile back at the Genocide Ranch
“….These actions constitute the war crimes of wilful killing and mistreatment and of the destruction of protected civilian property and the crime against humanity of extermination….”
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1844497019974582563
Tiberius @ecomarxi
We don’t need another fucking report to tell us what we all know.
We need sanctions on Israel, the US, and the rest — NOW!
https://x.com/UN_HRC/status/1844397019907191130
United Nations Human Rights Council | 📍#HRC57 @UN_HRC .@UN
Commission of Inquiry says in a new report that #Israel has perpetrated a concerted policy to destroy #Gaza’s healthcare system; war crimes & crimes against humanity committed in treatment of Palestinian detainees & Israeli & foreign hostages.
Read➡️ https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks
UN Commission finds war crimes and crimes against humanity in Israeli attacks on Gaza health facilities and treatment of detainees, hostages
GENEVA (10 October 2024) – Israel has perpetrated a concerted policy to destroy Gaza’s healthcare system as part of a broader assault on Gaza, committing war crimes and the crime against humanity of extermination with relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel said in a new report today.
The Commission also investigated the treatment of Palestinian detainees in Israel and of Israeli and foreign hostages in Gaza since 7 October 2023, and concluded that Israel and Palestinian armed groups are responsible for torture and sexual and gender-based violence.
“Israel must immediately stop its unprecedented wanton destruction of healthcare facilities in Gaza,” said Navi Pillay, Chair of the Commission. “By targeting healthcare facilities, Israel is targeting the right to health itself with significant long-term detrimental effects on the civilian population. Children in particular have borne the brunt of these attacks, suffering both directly and indirectly from the collapse of the health system.”
The report found that Israeli security forces have deliberately killed, detained and tortured medical personnel and targeted medical vehicles while tightening their siege on Gaza and restricting permits to leave the territory for medical treatment. These actions constitute the war crimes of wilful killing and mistreatment and of the destruction of protected civilian property and the crime against humanity of extermination……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 10 2024 22:40 utc | 300