Zionists Are Calling For More War And May Well Get It
The daily Israeli murder campaign in Gaza continues unabated.
Netranyahoo is blocking (vid) any proposal for a ceasefire by adding new conditions to the already agreed upon details. His latest quest is to get permanent military control of the so called Philadelphia Corridor which designates the borderline between Egypt and Gaza.
There are two international agreements, brokered by the U.S. and agreed upon by Egypt and Israel, which prohibited anything more than a temporary light force in the corridor:
The US had assured Egypt that Israel's actions along the border would comply with both the 1978 Camp David Accords and the 2005 Memorandum of Understanding. These agreements place clear limitations on Israel’s military presence near Egypt's borders, allowing only small Israeli units for security purposes, and were designed to ensure stability and avoid prolonged occupation in sensitive areas.
Netanyahoo does not care at all what the White House might have promised to Egypt. Biden's timidity in punishing him lets him ignore all interventions.
Zionist settler pogroms in the West Bank, supported by the government, threaten to turn the situation there into the same as in the Gaza strip. As Haaretz editorializes (archived):
The minister of the West Bank, Bezalel Smotrich, and the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, under Netanyahu's leadership and with the army's participation, are doing everything they can to open another front in addition to the ones that are already aflame.
They will soon get their wish.
Two fronts are not yet enough though. Over the weekend several Israeli voices, including Netanyahoo's, urged an imminent campaign against Hizbullah in Lebanon:
Former war cabinet member Benny Gantz on Sunday said Israel should shift its focus toward Hezbollah and the Lebanese border, warning that “we are late on this,” ...
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“The time for [action in] the north has come,” said Gantz on Sunday during the Middle East America Dialogue (MEAD) summit in Washington, DC, adding, “Actually, I think we are late on this.”
Netanyahoo agrees:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urged his government on Sunday to prepare for “changing the situation” on the northern front with Lebanon given the ongoing clashes and mounting tensions.Speaking at a weekly cabinet meeting, he said the situation in the north cannot go on, calling on the army and all security agencies to prepare for change on the front.
The government is committed to returning all residents of the north safely to their homes, he added, while describing Hezbollah in Lebanon as Iran’s “strongest” arm.
Meanwhile, Israeli security sources told local media that the battle with Lebanon is “imminent”, but the timing for it hasn’t been set yet.
Hizbollah is not intimidated as the daily tit for tat at the northern border continues:
“Israel won’t be able to return its settlers back to their homes no matter how loud they cry. The only way they can return is by ending the war on Gaza,” declared Deputy Chief of Hezbollah’s Executive Council Sheikh Ali Daamoush.
Speaking at a funeral in Beirut’s southern suburbs of Dahieh, he stressed that Hezbollah “will never agree to a change in the rules of engagement and a change in the current equations.” “The more the enemy intensifies its attacks, the more the resistance will increase its deterrence and expand its operations,” he stated.
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On the ground, Hezbollah retaliated on Sunday to Israel’s killing of three civil defense members in a strike on their fire truck a day earlier.The party launched drones and rockets at the Upper and Western Galilee.
The Israeli army announced on Sunday that it launched a series of air raids against Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon, adding that it also intercepted several projectiles fired from Lebanon overnight.
The military said it struck Hezbollah military facilities in Aitaroun, Maroun al-Ras and Yaroun in the South.
Hezbollah said it fired rockets at Israel’s Kiryat Shmona in response to the killing of the civil defense members.
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Caretaker Prime Minister Najib Mikati condemned the attack as a violation of international law and announced an emergency meeting on Monday with Western ambassadors and international organizations to address the ongoing hostilities.“To date, because of Israel's aggression, 25 paramedics from various ambulance teams have been killed, along with two health workers, and 94 paramedics and health workers have been injured,” the health ministry statement added.
The health ministry also condemned the attack as a “blatant strike” on an official Lebanese state apparatus, marking the second such attack on an emergency team in less than 12 hours.
The intentional targeting of medical personnel is a tactic that Israel is also using in Gaza.
Hizbullah and its friends do not believe that any new Israeli action is yet imminent:
The latest flurry of Israeli threats regarding an imminent military operation in Lebanon are only aimed at “intimidation,” diplomatic sources said.“They are also aimed at blocking the latest Iranian-American rapprochement, whose first signs have appeared in the agreement reached in Iraq, which would not have happened without an Iranian green light,” the sources told al-Joumhouria newspaper in remarks published Monday.
Iraq and the United States have agreed on a phased pullout of the U.S.-led anti-jihadist coalition but have yet to sign a final agreement, the Iraqi defense minister said Sunday.
Still, the temperature in region is increasing. Yesterday a retired Jordanian soldier killed three Israelis at the Allenby Crossing between the West Bank and Jordan. Last night Israel bombed several sites in Syria killing at least 16 including 5 civilians.
Reading western media the daily carnage in and around Palestine already seems to become normalized.
But my hunch is that the situation is ready to explode. The tiniest new incident could easily escalate the situation into a wider war which for Israel would soon be existential.
Posted by b on September 9, 2024 at 15:09 UTC | Permalink
next page »I wrote my congress critter Brad Wenstrup) today about their support for Jizzrael and Ukraine. Told him to be a man like Thomas Massie and stand up for the USA and stop licking Zionist and MIC boots.
In one ear and out the other is what I suspect.
Posted by: JoeDontSurf | Sep 9 2024 15:15 utc | 2
no one is able or interested in making all the pain, suffering and needless death, go away... that really tells you something about world leadership in 2024, doesn't it?? a rogue actor on the world stage has full support in another increasingly rogue actor - the usa..
Posted by: james | Sep 9 2024 15:21 utc | 3
The majority of I$raelis WANT genocide. Programming of Jewish children, boys in particular, begins with the psychologically damaging Bris. By the age of three or so, those wounded psyches are culturally programmed to project those induced fears into hatred of the "other".
The Babylonian Talmud, created by a secretive cult of special rabbis, insists that Jews are not only the "Chosen", but also that ALL others are mere "Goyim" or cattle, suitable only to serve their "Chosen" masters.
Beyond belief is the irony that some 20 years ago a Johns Hopkins DNA study revealed that the Palestinian people's genome is 85% derived from the ancient Hebrews. Little wonder that a majority of the name-stealers and land-grabbing genociders hate those Palestinian natives who are actual descendants of the ancient Hebrews.
Understandably, the Talmudist state has revealed itself as a cancer, a virus infested and infused with hatred. That artificial entity, originally created by Baron Edmund de Rothschild in the 1870's when he settled fake Jews in Palestine...needs to be broken up and a new "homeland" for those haters should be established for them, as Staliln did in far eastern Siberia many decades ago.
Not all people of Jewish heritage of one iteration or another are predatorial and parasitical. There are wonderful humanists in the minority such as Gabor Mate', Illon Pappe' and many other righteous, huimanist Jews who benefit the world. But for those others who are exclusivist and tribal...they need to have a place far away from other human settlements.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 15:24 utc | 4
I read that Portland is the 3rd large city in the US to publicly divest from anything related to Israhell. This is direct contradiction to the US Israel Antiboycott law. Cue Dershowitz. This might force a showdown which could be the start of a movement to regain our sovereignty. Which is probably why we hadn't heard from Dershowitz and the Genocide lobby. Seems like Zionazism is on a fast train to Hell. I sure hope so.
Posted by: Ralph Conner | Sep 9 2024 15:28 utc | 5
I'm not up-to-date with the Iran situation,
will there still be an Iranian retaliation strike against Israel, did they cancel it, was there a deal, did they say anything, no one knows?, does anyone know??
Posted by: cortomaltese | Sep 9 2024 15:28 utc | 6
At one time there was more emphasis in the media on the course of wars. But, other than silly propaganda and making it obvious that one Israeli death is more important than a hundred or perhaps thousands of Palestinian deaths.
The ruling elites that run the propaganda organs know that most people pay no attention to the details but inhale it unconsciously passing rational thought--but, occasionally, somebody finds something doesn't smell right and discovers a world entirely and dramatically different than what the mainstream presents. We are getting there slowly as the oligarchs trusting in their skill at mind-control redouble their efforts to steer us all somewhere. If that "place" were good for most people, I could see going there but I know that the place they want us in is a hell on earth which is the ultimate destination if the main social value is the quest for power through coercion. Then, a virtual Israel with superior being on top and "human animals" at the bottom--until they get troublesome and then....
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 9 2024 15:34 utc | 7
" someone asks Chomsky what he thinks about the statement that Israel should not exist, and whether he is horrified by it. He responds: "Actually I agree with that." "
Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 9 2024 15:47 utc | 9
Occupied Palestine will become history in our lifetimes. Either by the situation exploding as b mentions at the end, or the occupiers simply going for the Samsonite option.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 9 2024 15:50 utc | 10
@Posted by: cortomaltese | Sep 9 2024 15:28 utc | 6
An attack by Iran upon Israel would help which Presidential candidate?
People tend to circle the wagons during war time, will the voters rally around
the incumbent regime "Brain-dead & Karma" if Iran attacks Israel
just before the November election? Timing is everything.
Would the Iranians crow if they perceive that they got revenge upon Trump
for his assassination of Qasem Soleimani by keeping him out of the White House?
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I just checked recent headlines and it appears that the FBI is setting up Iran
as the fall guy for a Trump assassination. The FBI/CIA/Deep State/Democrats missed
Trump once, what is to stop them from trying again?
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 15:52 utc | 11
The criminal zionist regime is bent on national suicide. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 9 2024 15:58 utc | 12
Last evening (8 September) ARTE TV news ran a story on how Israel is experiencing a wave of immigration by French Jews who no longer feel safe in France due to the increase in antisemitic incidents.
Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 13
Excellent update, B. The Zionists are rabid dogs.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 14
@ Gene Poole | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 14
where are they migrating to?? and, does anyone know the rate of people in israel leaving at present??
Posted by: james | Sep 9 2024 16:02 utc | 15
@6 Nor Yemen nor Iran retaliation has been backed down. It remains an unknown.
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 9 2024 16:03 utc | 16
A comment about the FBI and justice.
In the US we have the justice principle, "innocent until proven guilty".
However, we have a situation where the investigator (FBI) is a criminal organization.
The perpetrator is going to investigate itself and find itself worthy of indictment?
I don't think so.
So, in the situations like the attempted impeachments of Trump, January 6th and the
recent assassination attempt, the correct stance is that the FBI is guilty until
it proves itself innocent.
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 16:04 utc | 17
someone asks Chomsky what he thinks about the statement that Israel should not exist, and whether he is horrified by it. He responds: "Actually I agree with that." "
Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 9 2024 15:47 utc | 9
It doesn't take a Chomsky to get that question right, at this stage of the game.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 9 2024 16:05 utc | 18
The Arab regimes are fully complicit in supporting and sustaining the colonization of Palestine.
With few exceptions they all must collapse for the region to have any hope for decolonization.
Arab regimes including Jordan have been funnelling supplies through land routes via Jordan.
This reporter (around 50% into his video) references the claim of a land route supplied by truckers to Israeli Channel 13 who carried video evidence of Jordanian truckers ferrying in food supplies to Israel via Jordan:
Jordan’s Foreign Minister publicly insults German counterpart on Israel support | Janta Ka Reporter
Common sense would infer:
- That a land route must exist since the shipping and air routes have been disrupted so Israhell cannot be sustaining itself using these methods.
- After 10 months under supply disruption Israhell cannot be feeding itself with its own meagre agricultural means.
- Nor are the shipping routes via the Mediterranean sufficient.
Logic dictates only one viable means of supply to Israel must be in play:
Land routes ... and land routes can only come via Jordan and Egypt.
The data points accumulate to support these inferences.
The Arab regimes are not helpless bystanders in the Palestinian genocide. They are active and complicit and deserve overthrow.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 16:06 utc | 19
The resistance to Israel if this continues?
Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, West Bank, Egypt, Yemen, Turkey... Russia, China... Africa? Several countries. Asia and South America? Similar. And people in G7. Quite a few.
I don't see a win for the fascists happening. I do think nukes will be used.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 9 2024 16:07 utc | 20
The firefighters, deja vu all over again. Seems not long ago that they israel hit paramedics in western Lebanon, Sunni and Hezbholla hit back one hard in a new place.
Sometimes there is sanity in depravity, but in this 11 month depravity by israel, there were some saner things they could have done. I still can not wrap my head around why another 30 to 40 datcease fire did not transpire. The guns from the north would stop, hostages back, israeli troops regroup and then israel could lie through their teeth again and start it all back up in Gaza over some pretext of lies.
The government and zionists of the israeli entity it is akin to them having put on good boots and galoshes and set their feet into concrete and let it set for 24 hours.
Posted by: paxmark1 | Sep 9 2024 16:07 utc | 21
gideon levy opinion piece from today in haaretz
Israeli Society Has Truly Fallen to Cruelty, Violence and Apathy. Just Look at Us
Posted by: james | Sep 9 2024 16:08 utc | 22
Thanks for the posting b and hope your recovery is going well. I am 11 weeks into reconstructive agony of right shoulder and have another month or so to go before I have decent range of motion and then in November I have the other shoulder repaired...sigh...hell to get old and be active.
I agree with you that escalation seems imminent and welcome the resolution to the ongoing carnage.
Someone commented earlier that Russia has planes in the air protecting Syria from Occupied Palestine and I expect there are other pieces to the current dynamics us pond scum don't get to see.
Resolution of Occupied Palestine cannot come soon enough for me. The last significant bastion of colonialism needs to be destroyed and other solutions found for the integration of exceptionalists in recovery back into society.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 9 2024 16:10 utc | 23
I realize I’m off thread with this but what the hey. We got gangs running rampant throughout our communities and we should give two sh*ts about Gaza and Jordan? Where are our priorities? Let the Muslims and Jews figure it out. Israel is toast no matter what so why not take care of US.
Posted by: Ljag | Sep 9 2024 16:19 utc | 24
Speaking of a criminal investigating itself (like September 11th),
Israel will be investigating it's "failures" of October 7th.
Netanyahu and his allies have for months been blocking an investigation of October 7th.
However, they have come up with a trick. The State Comptroller, hand picked by Netanyahu,
has started an investigation. Netanyahu's opposition says that that investigation by the Comptroller
is designed to make an independent investigation redundant and unnecessary.
The Comptroller is already complaining that he has met insurmountable walls from the military
and politicians. He is building his excuse ("not my fault") for a poor investigation, and,
as he was hand picked by Netanyahu, we can expect that he won't punish anyone for their lack of cooperation.
And of course, an investigation that starts with the wrong premise,
"a multitude of failures from incompetence, negligence and hubris" is not
going to arrive at the right conclusion: treachery and betrayal.
Start with the wrong premise and you aren't likely to come to a correct conclusion.
October 7th was LIHOP / MIHOP as a pretext for Genocide.
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 16:22 utc | 25
Bibi has full spectrum dominance over the US.
The entire US Congress, from AOC and Bernie "Sheepdog" Sanders to Liz Cheney are owned lock, stock, and barrel by Zionists.
Zionists own Korporate AmeriKKKa.
Biden and Harris are so pathetically weak that Isreal could take 100 US citizens hostage, strap them on to the front of tanks and invade Lebanon, using the US citizens as human shield to prevent FPV droning by Hezbollah. The US would do nothing even if their body parts were sprayed all over the street like ground chuck.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 9 2024 16:23 utc | 26
Max Blumenthal explains how Bibi, Biden and Blinken got Israel's hostages killedhttps://t.me/European_dissident/59892
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 9 2024 16:23 utc | 27
I wrote my congress critter Brad Wenstrup) today about their support for Jizzrael and Ukraine. Told him to be a man like Thomas Massie and stand up for the USA and stop licking Zionist and MIC boots.
In one ear and out the other is what I suspect.
Posted by: JoeDontSurf | Sep 9 2024 15:15 utc | 2
You didn't seriously expect anything else, did you?
Posted by: Michigan Dude | Sep 9 2024 16:41 utc | 28
I realize I’m off thread with this but what the hey. We got gangs running rampant throughout our communities and we should give two sh*ts about Gaza and Jordan? Where are our priorities? Let the Muslims and Jews figure it out. Israel is toast no matter what so why not take care of US.
Posted by: Ljag | Sep 9 2024 16:19 utc | 25
Right, so it appears this is the new trolling pitch of the closet Zionists online. As usual, Caitlin has something for you. It will help you, if you want help. If you're just a tool of the Zionazis, as I suspect, piss off.
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The other day someone on Twitter asked me why he should care about what’s happening in Gaza, saying, “Why should I care about anyone that isn’t in a 20 mile radius of where I live?”
I was a bit taken aback by this. I must confess I live in a bit of an echo chamber when it comes to caring about the world; most people I interact with from day to day either agree with me or disagree with me about the abusive nature of the empire and what our problems are and what should be done about them, but the one thing they all have in common is that they care. Outside my little bubble I suspect this “why should I care?” sentiment is probably pretty common, though.
There’s a 2017 Huffington Post article by Kayla Chadwick titled “I Don’t Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People” which expresses frustration at this type of attitude, because it is very difficult to argue against. If you’re not already the sort of person who would naturally care about the death and suffering in Gaza, it’s going to be hard to get you to see why you should. If you’re missing the part of yourself which hurts when it sees children ripped apart by Israeli bombs, you’re going to have a hard time understanding the value of that part.
But I like a challenge. So I’ve had a bit of a think about it, and I’ve come up with the most honest and complete answer to this question that I am able to produce right now. It might not convince anyone, but it is a well-reasoned answer.
Why should you care about Gaza? Because we can’t keep living like this. Our species cannot continue living on this planet as though what happens to other people and other organisms around the world has nothing to do with us. We don’t live in that kind of world anymore.
For better or for worse, we now live on a planet with eight billion humans who are no longer separated by distance in the way we used to be. This species which spent so much of its development relating to itself in units of small tribes is now an intimately networked global community whose behavior is literally altering the face of this planet, and we need to start acting like it. We need to start doing what Einstein called “widening our circle of compassion” beyond our small tribal units of people we personally know and like, or we simply won’t be able to survive and thrive on this planet.
The inability of ordinary people to think globally is directly affecting our lives in the here and now.
The ability of plutocrats to exploit cheap labor overseas directly affects how much you and your neighbors can earn to provide for yourselves and your families. If we had true international class solidarity, they wouldn’t be able to get away with that anymore.
The ability of corporations to feed our biosphere into the capitalism machine and offload costs of production onto the ecosystem to maximize profits directly affects the kind of environment we’ll all be living in in the coming years. Corporate suits can only get away with this because the citizenry who vastly outnumber them have been manipulated into accepting their cancerous behavior.
The ability of war profiteers and empire managers to push for more war and militarism around the world directly affects how much of our nation’s wealth and resources are allocated to supporting the needs of ordinary people at home, and threatens us all with the looming possibility of nuclear armageddon. The imperial propaganda machine works so hard to manufacture consent for this madness because otherwise nobody would consent to it.
The oligarchs and government agencies who run the US-centralized empire are able to exploit our tendency to only care about our immediate surroundings to construct global mechanisms which affect everything — including our immediate surroundings. All it takes is a little narrative manipulation coupled with our own nearsightedness to keep us from seeing what they’re doing.
They destabilize entire regions in the global south with war and imperialist extraction, and when people start fleeing those horrible conditions they use propaganda to manipulate those in the global north into hating immigrants instead of focusing on what’s driving the mass exoduses.
They deliberately maintain a level of unemployment to artificially depress wages, and then propagandize the working poor into thinking the unemployed are parasitic welfare moochers.
They create a controlled opposition false dichotomy between two mainstream political factions who both serve the capitalist empire in every meaningful way, and then manipulate both sides into blaming all the problems this causes on the other side instead of on the architects of this whole disaster.
These manipulations would not work if our circles of compassion were sufficiently wide. The same moral myopia which causes us to fail to see a Palestinian child as worthy of our care and attention also causes us to fail to recognize the underlying causes of all the major problems we see all around us.
It’s true that caring about that Palestinian child, in and of itself, will yield you no personal material gain. But being the sort of person who would care about that Palestinian child will help pave the way from hell on earth to paradise. Enough humans having a wide enough circle of compassion to care about the suffering of other humans who they will never meet is all it will take for us to create a healthy world.
Our species can no longer existentially afford small circles of compassion. We can no longer afford ignorance and apathy. We’ve got to start learning about what’s happening in the world, thinking in terms of global community, and caring about our fellow beings on this planet in the way we care for our friends and neighbors.
Sure that’s not our tendency right now, but every species eventually hits a point where it needs to adapt or go the way of the dinosaur. That’s where we’re at right now. The days where “rugged individualism” could be defended as a rational worldview are long over, if it was ever rational to begin with.
This isn’t the twelfth century. We’re not going from birth to death in tiny communities unconnected to the rest of the world. Whatever device you’re reading this on has parts from multiple foreign countries, which passed through countless foreign hands to come into yours. We all touch one another’s lives around the world from distances which used to have no relevance to the human experience of this planet.
We need to begin thinking, feeling, and living in accordance with this new reality. We cannot continue along the ecocidal, omnicidal trajectory that our small circles of compassion have made possible, or else we will go extinct.
That’s why you should care about Gaza. Because humanity’s collective failure to care about such things is driving our species further and further into misery and dystopia, and closer and closer to the precipice of eternal oblivion.
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Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 9 2024 16:43 utc | 29
@ Gene Poole | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 14
where are they migrating to?? and, does anyone know the rate of people in israel leaving at present??
Posted by: james | Sep 9 2024 16:02 utc | 16
Re-read Gene's post:
1 Israel is *receiving immigrants*
2 *French Jews who *don't feel safe in France*
Posted by: Mary | Sep 9 2024 16:52 utc | 30
In the latest "Palestine Only" thread was this post:
This will add an interesting twist to the conversation.
https://library4conciliation.substack.com/p/today-i-found-the-book-egypt-knew
@Posted by: GEORGE M CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 9 2024 12:31 utc | 74
Without passing any judgement, I found this of interest. I think the subject is so deep and involved
that it would require graduate level courses.
The shortest of synopsis is this. Jerusalem was in the proximity of northern Yemen as were the "Israelis".
There is no archeological evidence nor confirmation in historical writings that says that
there was an Exodus out of Egypt.
My first question is how does this impact the New Testament?
There are two Jerusalems?
In the time of Jesus there was the (new?) Jerusalem in present day Palestine.
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 16:57 utc | 31
Last evening (8 September) ARTE TV news ran a story on how Israel is experiencing a wave of immigration by French Jews who no longer feel safe in France due to the increase in antisemitic incidents.
@Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 14
And the Brooklyn Bridge was sold three times last week :-)
The news story was planted by people that understand that people are sheep and luv to follow the flock.
FOMO
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Made me laugh!
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 17:03 utc | 32
The Islamic world is closing ranks with China as mediator for the GCC states and Iran. The risk of a large war cannot be carried by wealthy states UAE-Kuwait-Qatar-Saudi Arabia. No one is talking about the Trump-Biden Abraham Economic Accords which left the Palestinians out of the equation. Crown-prince Salman was pulled back from the abyss by the court of King Salman … the key objection was subjugation of the Al Aqsa Mosque to the Jewish State … next to the fate of Palestinians.
Joe Biden has been a “closet” Zionist during his 50 years political career. Trump was carried into the White House by evangelicals in 2016. The very slightest deviation in 2020 was likely Catholic vote went to Joe. Kamala doesn’t stand a chance in November in the violence of the Talmud and Bible contra the Koran. Trump will be a shoo in … Netanyahu is not a gambling person and knows time is on his side. Goal of Zionism is the Jewish State from the River to the Sea. Palestinians will be erased from their homeland as the (Western) world watches … the ICC with British citizen Karim Khan is a political tool of the West.
The regional adversaries of Israel are uniting and very likely arming their forces. Israel-US-UK cannot prevent the tightening of the noose. Old enemies are doing more than “talking” … see visit by Sisi to Erdogan’s Türkiye. The traitor nation UAE had managed the initial rapprochement to the Jewish State with close cooperation on intelligence, Mossad and Unit 8200. Palestinian traitor Mohammed Dahlan played a key role and is on the most wanted list in Palestine.
Spelling: Philadelphi Corridor … see the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt and the arrangement made in 2005. Remembering Israel’s ‘disengagement’ from Gaza … the brain hemorrhage of PM Ariel Sharon ended the cause for a peace deal with the Arab states.
@ Ljag 25
Sure, but let us know once you have permanently stopped the US supplying weapons, support and recognition to "Israel". In the meantime (at least) it would be 'normal' to care about what your country is doing to others. Most people would find it 'normal' to care even if they had no hand in the matter whatsoever.
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 9 2024 17:08 utc | 34
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 16:06 utc | 20
That claim of land supply to Israel through Jordan to my mind remains in the domain of questionable. There was one video I saw sourced from a Palestinian journalist from Bethlehem, which seems to be the video you mention. Unmarked convoy supposedly crossing the border, but the terrain didn't match that near the border, and some of the trucks were open and carrying building materials (wall panels). Does Israel desperately urgently need building materials? One convoy I could believe, a steady stream of convoys I don't think so.
You generically slate the Arabs, but in fact they're each one in very different situations. Only Egypt corresponds to what you say. Jordan doesn't have a choice, because it needs western subsidies.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 9 2024 17:16 utc | 35
I realize I’m off thread with this but what the hey. We got gangs running rampant throughout our communities and we should give two sh*ts about Gaza and Jordan? Where are our priorities? Let the Muslims and Jews figure it out. Israel is toast no matter what so why not take care of US.
Posted by: Ljag | Sep 9 2024 16:19 utc | 25
You're dead right. "Where are your priorities?", indeed!
Get your democratically elected rulers to get their asses out of the middle east and let the Jews and Muslims figure it out themselves!
What are all your military bases doing over there, sucking up streams for your taxes and the lives of your young people?
Get them all back home to deal with those crazy Haitian gangs raping your women and grooming your daughters.
I wish your entire nation thought like you ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 17:20 utc | 36
The majority of Crooke's chat with Judge Napolitano today covered Palestine, but also covered the propaganda system ploy that's now in place. Also discussed were the crucial German election results which are being studiously ignored, illegally in some cases. The unspoken ultimatum to those voters is Mafia/Fascist, which I hope enrages Germans, just as the French are enraged.
As for Palestine, the big problem as many barflies know is the reluctance of the major Arab states to cutoff all support for the Zionists. The GCC-Russia format met today in Saudi Arabia, and Lavrov's remarks continue to be too passive. Just now I see the presser transcript is now available. Looks like my Monday report will focus on Lavrov and Crooke again, although Crooke's SCF essay has yet to be posted.
Jerusalem was in the proximity of northern Yemen as were the "Israelis".
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 16:57 utc | 32
Oh no! Not another resurfacing of the bizarre Kamal Salibi theory. It's just a wild theory based on a similarity of some placenames. And it's not northern Yemen but southwest Saudi, near Abha.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 9 2024 17:24 utc | 38
Thanks for the update, b!
Personally I find it fascinating how similar Banderastan and Israhell are with regards to their collective (establishment's) lunatic policies. Already trapped in a difficult situation as it is, they're attempting to find a resolution to the existing problems by creating a new one (the Kursk and the West Bank front, respectively).
Is this a product of basic human psychology, like finding "rescue" from various problems in alcohol or drugs, or is it the result of leading "PR-politics" for far too long and caring for their "public image" more than caring for the very existence of the "state" they've been entrusted to lead?
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Sep 9 2024 17:25 utc | 39
1 Israel is *receiving immigrants*
2 *French Jews who *don't feel safe in France*
Posted by: Mary | Sep 9 2024 16:52 utc | 31
If they don't feel safe in France they're going to get a hell of a surprise when they hit those illegal West Bank settlements ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 17:27 utc | 40
Librul@1604
Totally agree that the FeeBeeIs (FBI) is a criminal organization. Their Behavioral analysis Unit (BAU) located in Quantico, Virginia specifically exists to CREATE criminals. Their agents work the field in order to create "terrorists"...mostly Muslims as well as to target by means of cooperation from other Feral agencies to use psychotronic warfare, along with post-hypnotic suggestion to create "crazed shooters"...in order to achieve the uber-agenda of destruction of the 2nd Amendment; thus paving the way for a TOTAL police state.
On the nits and grits level, many FeeBee agents are common (well, maybe not so common) thieves. When they raid the home of a suspect, even before indictment; they follow two procedures (1. collect all valuables as "evidence" which only rarely is presented in court and (2. to trash the place...they call it "tossing". So not only are they thieves out for loot, they are also vandals.
So do they EVER get arrested for their obvious crimes? What law officer or even county sheriff would have the stones to arrest one or more FeeBees? After all, through their FUSION CENTERS, which centralizes state and local L.E. agencies by treats and threats...virtually ALL L.E. departments and orfice-holders would DARE to arrest their bosses' private Law and Forcement agents.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:33 utc | 41
Israel is taking whatever actions it deems necessary to provide security. Israel's position on borders was determined by UNSC 242 on November 22, 1967. Israel supported the resolution because it called on the Arab states to accept Israel's right “to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.” Israel's recognized boundaries are the 'Mandatory Palestine' borders from the past. Palestine was not mentioned in 242.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 9 2024 17:37 utc | 42
Arch Bungle@1606
The British installed and still controlled "Monarchy" in the artificial country of Jordan needs to be overthrown by their majority Palestinian people...perhaps with a little help from their friends in Iraq and Yemen. Russian air-support may also be useful in that liberation move.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:40 utc | 43
I wrote my congress critter Brad Wenstrup) today about their support for Jizzrael and Ukraine. Told him to be a man like Thomas Massie and stand up for the USA and stop licking Zionist and MIC boots.
In one ear and out the other is what I suspect.
Posted by: JoeDontSurf | Sep 9 2024 15:15 utc | 2
I still can't find public information on the Cause of Death of wife Rhonda Massie.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 9 2024 17:43 utc | 44
Laguerre@1724
Why confuse the issue that the original Hibiru never lived in Egypt and their original homeland was in the general area of Yemen and S.W. Arabia...immediately adjoining the land of Sheba...a then highly organized culture with amazing levels of water-works such as canals and irrigation ditches.
Rather than assaulting Librul's position, you could have gently clarified some of its elements. Are you a rationalistic materialistic academicist with an agenda?
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:45 utc | 45
@36 Cont'd--
Lavrov at today's presser answering a Q about Ukraine provided this last paragraph:
"We draw the attention of our colleagues to this. We are talking about this with our Chinese friends as well. Nothing will work if you do not look at the root of this problem. In this regard, we have a positive attitude to the well-known initiative of Chinese President Xi Jinping on global security, which says that any conflict should be considered from its root causes. This fully applies to the Ukrainian crisis. Only by understanding the root causes, you can reliably eliminate them." [My Emphasis]
I don't think Lavrov needs reminding that his words apply equally to the Palestinian crisis. Based on what I read in his remarks and the Q&A, no overt progress was made that could be announced, although a more negative assessment of the Zionist and Outlaw US Empire's behavior was aired. IMO, all understand that Netanyahu wants wider war. There's a way to prevent that but Lavrov directly stated the Outlaw US Empire is blocking such prevention so it can continue to help with the Genocide. Crooke elaborated on the Jordanian situation and agreed with b about it being on a hair-trigger.
IMO, the only way the world will know peace is for the Outlaw US Empire/NATO and its Zionist ally to be defeated either militarily or economically. I wish there were another path, but I don't see one at this juncture.
Just repeating the set of local Palestine links...
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 9 2024 17:46 utc | 47
Netanyahu knows that Russians care about life, and are unlikely to engage in a nuclear duel if Plan A goes ahead to nuke Beirut.
But Russia has nuclear shelters and Israel doesn't. Netanyahu the populist , like Bojo, has a Plan B if Russia retaliates. A nice warm cell in nice company in Europe.
Mullah Krekar got transferred to Italy for signing for Daesh to attack Baghdad and Mosul. Netanyahu might get Zelensky as a cell mate.
But I don't think either of them would get much sleep.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2024 17:50 utc | 48
Karlof1@1721
Additional to your statement regarding the Gulf dictatorships (with Western banks holding many of their financial resources); I would like to add the sly, subtle, sneaky, snaky "Sultan" Erdogan of Turkey who talks a good talk but continues to sell mostly American stolen Syrian oil to the Izzies.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 18:00 utc | 49
The British installed and still controlled "Monarchy" in the artificial country of Jordan ...
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:40 utc | 44
Exactly.
They're all artificial countries in the end.: Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. Iraq. Much of Lebanon and Syria.
Egypt, authentic as it is, is still an eternal vassal.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 18:05 utc | 50
Why confuse the issue that the original Hibiru never lived in Egypt and their original homeland was in the general area of Yemen and S.W. Arabia...
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:45 utc | 46
The Salibi theory is long discredited. That's why I didn't bother to discuss it in detail; there's nothing new there. I would doubt very much any theory about the origin of hebrews in Arabia. There's no evidence apart from the biblical texts, and their narrative.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 9 2024 18:08 utc | 51
I wrote my congress critter Brad Wenstrup) today about their support for Jizzrael and Ukraine. Told him to be a man like Thomas Massie and stand up for the USA and stop licking Zionist and MIC boots.
In one ear and out the other is what I suspect.
Posted by: JoeDontSurf | Sep 9 2024 15:15 utc | 2
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You didn't seriously expect anything else, did you?
Posted by: Michigan Dude | Sep 9 2024 16:41 utc | 29
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The US Congress has staff members to open mail in case it might contain a campaign contribution. Then they throw away anything that might irritate the Boss, or they send form letters as a reply with a reminder to vote. There was a time when a personal letter meant something to a Congressperson, but that was before AIPAC, and other Israeli lobbying groups moved into the congresspersons office. Then there was the Citizens United case in 2010 in which SCOTUS divided the electorate, the rich from the poor. Now congress don't need your stinking letters; they have Gods chosen billionaires behind them. Now, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than to get a Congressperson to read your letter.
Posted by: Ed | Sep 9 2024 18:12 utc | 52
Its Monday and the US markets are up over 1% so all must be good in their world.
Its all Hollywood, all the time.
All the numbers are made up or bought to be corrupted or misrepresented. When you have unlimited fiat money to grease the wheels, look at the cast of thousands that keep this shit show going.
And its all coming to an end because it is inherently anti-humanistic. It will be deprecated all over the world as soon as imaginable. Look at what is already happening in the past decade into the last few years. From a historical perspective things are screaming along at this inflection point.
Is humanity ready to think/learn/respond about social organization structure to eliminate the God Of Mammon cult as I call it from the structure and replace it with totally sovereign finance provided as a public utility? I think so and it is already being done....the future is all around but just not evenly distributed at this time.
Will the God Of Mammon cult be poor losers as their proxy aggressors in Occupied Palestine and Ukraine are showing and blow us all away? Given the hubristic stupidity of humans, from what I have experienced and am seeing, maybe our "extinction" would be for the best.....maybe not all would die immediately but slow death for many and nasty existence for centuries for the remaining who hopefully learn from this shit show.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 9 2024 18:14 utc | 53
Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 9 2024 16:01 utc | 14
Journalists lie, usually by omission.
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 9 2024 18:19 utc | 54
They're all artificial countries in the end.: Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. Iraq. Much of Lebanon and Syria.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 9 2024 18:05 utc | 51
No, quite wrong. The point I've been making to Jane in the last week or two is that the borders would have been quite similar had no colonial imposition of the mandates after the 1WW ever taken place. Iraq's Iraq. Syria is less than it should have been, and Lebanon bigger than it ought to have been. But something like that was bound to be created, colonies or free states. Just the borders could have been somewhat different - always a question in continental state creation. The rest follow on logically.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 9 2024 18:20 utc | 55
Israel’s Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich – has spoken about his dream.
“The mission of my life is to build the land of Israel and thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state. That is why I have taken upon myself, in addition to the position of Minister of Finance, responsibility for civil issues in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank),” Smotrich wrote in a post on X on Monday.
“I will continue to work with all my might so that the half a million settlers who are on the front line and under fire enjoy the rights of every citizen in Israel and establish the facts on the ground,” he added.
“My plan is not a secret. I will fight with all my might the danger of establishing a Palestinian state; for the sake of Israel and its citizens, I will continue, through my powers, to develop settlements in the West Bank and strengthen security,”
To think much of the West – is backing this mad man’s plans – its just frightening.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 9 2024 18:27 utc | 56
Oui, (34)
Biden was never a "closet Zionist." Long ago, he publicly declared, "I am a Zionist."
Once, upon his arrival in Israel, he gave a speech that he began with, "It is great to be home."
Posted by: David | Sep 9 2024 18:34 utc | 57
At this stage of the game the US is rudderless, completely rudderless.
Joe Biden has checked out mentally and physically, and spends most of his time the beach in Delaware under a sun umbrella. Kamyhoe Harris is a certified idiot unable to focus on any real issue, and totally dependent on the Obama twins and Susan Rice for advice....OMgosh!!
Bibi knows this full well, and is playing the delay game on the ceasefire. He really wants a ME wide conflagration that would automatically suck the USN into a huge multiple front war against Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran and the Houthis too, with the important side players of Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, and Hezbollah.
Its a perverted war lust for purpose of hanging on to the illegal territory it has seized from the Palestinians since 1948.
The thing that is frustrating to Bibi is that the Iranians have shown great patience, in waiting to build up their strategic forces before attacking Israel. It may be next week or next year, but the attack will come and it will be devastating but it will come when the Iran regime wants it to, not on Bibi's time table.
Meanwhile the Israeli economy is in a shambles, tourism has evaporated especially from the Christian world, shipping is an expensive mess, and land routes through Jordan are problematic.
Only a mad man would wish to fight a four or five front war...........yet that is what appears to be held in Bibi's cards.....LOL with that........get the popcorn ready and order a drink from the bar...the feature flick is about to be shown......
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Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 9 2024 18:48 utc | 60
It's becoming clear that by Nov the 5th, there won't be any surviving hostage out of the 31 remaining alive today. Netanyahoo is not bothered by the way and his hope is that the orange man occupies the white house by then. However, this will never happen under Harris's watch and the deep state has a nice surprise for all. Just hope civil war does not ensue in the US of A.
Posted by: AI | Sep 9 2024 18:48 utc | 61
Re: Facts on the Ground
Establishing Facts on the Ground has been the Likudniks grand strategy for at least 50 years. It’s failed to provide peace or security to ordinary Israelis. Maybe Israelis should try another grand strategy.
Posted by: Exile | Sep 9 2024 18:53 utc | 62
Re: People moving to Israel ?
Sure - watch this 2 minute Israeli TV News interview with a Likudnik ranting about how bad things are in Israel and then get back to me.
https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/1832519667916886416
Posted by: Exile | Sep 9 2024 18:57 utc | 63
Israel is taking whatever actions it deems necessary to provide security. Israel's position on borders was determined by UNSC 242 on November 22, 1967. Israel supported the resolution because it called on the Arab states to accept Israel's right “to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.” Israel's recognized boundaries are the 'Mandatory Palestine' borders from the past. Palestine was not mentioned in 242.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 9 2024 17:37 utc | 43
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Don, you are correct. That is an indication of exactly how chicken shit the UNSC was back then. They talked about Palestine, but they did not use the term. However, it was mandated that "Israel" must withdraw from "occupied territories", but such territories are not mentioned explicitly, but it must have included the West Bank and Gaza, as well as the Golan Heights and parts of Egypt.
My point being that Israel never honored the 242 agreements, and they have no right to demand security when they offer none.
Posted by: Ed | Sep 9 2024 19:04 utc | 64
Nader at judge Nap gives an estimation of 300,000 dead already in Gaza
https://www.youtube.com/live/d_r6TBMj4BY?si=0eILbM6jJRHy3Og1
Posted by: Minaa | Sep 9 2024 19:10 utc | 65
Don
the question is simpler
the Zionist regime !founded by the British Empire and a few fanatical Ukrainian, Polish, Byelorussian and Lithuanian emigrants) does not want to be a Civilized state because that would mean recognizing the population as Citizens
"our colonial project" (Vladimir Jabotinsky) who has been carrying out massacres for almost 90 years ... is not even a colonial project nor is it fascism, but pure barbarism based on the book of Joshua and the book of Deuteronomy, that is: a self-worshipping Viking horde
Posted by: Simon | Sep 9 2024 19:21 utc | 66
@ ed #53
"it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than to get a Congressperson to read your letter. "
Winner, best slogan this week! Would make a great bumper sticker too.
Posted by: motorslug | Sep 9 2024 19:28 utc | 67
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 9 2024 15:50 utc | 11
Nothing will happen. Nothing has happened, nothing is happening therefore nothing will happen.
My guess is that by 2040 Gaza will be a combination of Florida (retirement condos and resorts) and Texas (off-shore LNG platforms and temporary residences for engineers and FIFO workers). The whole lot will be owned by US funds whose shareholders will include all the current Israeli cabinet, Congress, Senate, Zelensky, Macron, WEF members and perhaps a handful of picked loyalists (Bojo, Scomo, et al.).
No one will remember except in the future, and they won't even perfunctorily acknowledge the traditional owners of the land (like we do in Australia at the beginning of any even in a sick joke on the indigenous people) because aren't the Israelis the traditional owners of the land? Palestine will survive as a name only because it was the shameful designation used by the Roman (later Christian scum) occupiers, and what did they ever do for us?
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 9 2024 19:29 utc | 68
I think we need to face the fact that the Israelis are winning this one: they will erase Gaza, cleanse it of its people and seize title. No one cares and no one will stop it. It's a fait accompli.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 9 2024 19:33 utc | 69
Thanks for the update, b!
Personally I find it fascinating how similar Banderastan and Israhell are with regards to their collective (establishment's) lunatic policies. Already trapped in a difficult situation as it is, they're attempting to find a resolution to the existing problems by creating a new one (the Kursk and the West Bank front, respectively).
Is this a product of basic human psychology, like finding "rescue" from various problems in alcohol or drugs, or is it the result of leading "PR-politics" for far too long and caring for their "public image" more than caring for the very existence of the "state" they've been entrusted to lead?
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Sep 9 2024 17:25 utc | 40
The latter I think. Too long in the PR bubble.
They are all nuts. Politics has become show business, root and branch, thanks to the USSC Citizens United decision, and the result is a politics that is detached from reality. The same situation applies in Ukraine, Israel, USA, "the West"; all political classes in those states depend on their money givers, and the money-giver billionaires are all detached from reality.
The US Congress spends its days on the phone begging for money. So does Zelenskiy, so does Israhell. All financial dependents, like any working man. What annoys me is how cheaply they sold themselves and all of us out.
That is why the want to be billionaires, to live in their own private worlds, buy whole countries and implement their private fantasies of a proper social order, which usually looks like a sort of degraded hi-tech feudalism.
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 9 2024 19:33 utc | 70
@ Ed | Sep 9 2024 19:04 utc | 65
re: Israel never honored the 242 agreements
General Assembly Resolution 242 is the cornerstone for what it calls “a just and lasting peace." Israel supported the resolution because it called on the Arab states to accept Israel’s right “to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.”
The act also called for Israel to withdraw from “territories occupied in the recent conflict.” The Palestine Liberation Organization rejected it until 1988 because it lacked explicit references to Palestinians. Israel did withdraw from Gaza, probably regretted now, and the Sinai. Apparently to Israel the "secure and recognized boundaries" requirement blocked any other withdrawals.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 9 2024 19:38 utc | 71
Tobias Cole 59
'Its a perverted war lust for purpose of hanging on to the illegal territory it has seized from the Palestinians since 1948.'
The UN has made it clear that Israel as an Occupying Power cannot seize territory from Palestine by force.
It's certainly perverted for Zionists to think that by raping chained prisoners and bombing hospitals, the UN will lose its mind in frustration at Israel's criminality.
Trump shocks with pussy grabbing, Netanyahu's depravity is on a massive scale. Israel can never claim that it won this territory in a war, because
Oct 7 was a totally legitimate pie e of hostage taking as a bargaining chip for illegal arrested Palestinians.
Netanyahu turned it into a war with the Hannibal trashing of Israeli cars and property by tanks and helicopter gunships. Then pretending he was caught unawares. He started a war while pretending it was started by Hamas.
This is like the criminality of the false flags of Maidan in Ukraine and in the Arab Spring . The only difference being that the USUK wars used snipers firing at everybody, police and protesters, while Netanyahu used heavy artillery firing mostly at innocent Israelis , a totally different scale of criminality.
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 9 2024 19:43 utc | 72
Imagine if some Argentine Catholics came to Italy and claimed lands that once belonged to the Vatican
People would laugh or take them, logically, as a bunch of lunatics
Imagine if some Ukrainians, enthusiastic readers of Don Quixote de la Mancha, said that their homeland was in Spain, in La Mancha
In 100 years, the fanatical brutality of Zionism will be seen as one of the most colossal delirium in history
Posted by: Simon | Sep 9 2024 19:44 utc | 73
Ralph Conner # 5 i don't think we have a federal anti bds law. it's up to the states, and oregon has not passed one. it's also unconstitutional, as far as i know, due to Supreme Court NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware in 1982:
"[T]he Supreme Court has unequivocally ruled that boycotts in pursuit of humanitarian and social justice goals are a form of political speech entitled to the highest protection under the First Amendment. The court has further held that government at any level must not deny economic benefits, including public contracts, in retaliation for political beliefs. "
Posted by: annie | Sep 9 2024 19:44 utc | 74
Trump is uber Zionist in his words, as he needs the Evangelical nutters and Zionist dollars to get elected. But let's remember that this will be his last presidential gig given his age, and hopefully he learnt something about the swamp from gig #1. The last thing his MAGA drive needs is to become involved in a no win war in the Middle East which will cause a major inflationary depression through the destruction / shutting in of the Middle Eastern oil and gas fields. Something which would be huge boon to the Russians. China will respond by driving its domestic car sales to 100% EV (53% in August and probably 60%+ in December), utterly destroying the German and Japanese manufacturers, banning the export of oil products (equal to 1 mbpd) and tapping the huge strategic oil reserves that it has built up.
The last thing the narcissist Trump wants to be known as is the man who destroyed the US economy and got many, many young US men and women killed. Trump could very much be like a Reagan, the one to yank Israel's chain when most needed. The Democrats are much deeper into Jewish Zionism given their preponderance in the upper ranks of the party, the cabinet, and even in Harris's marriage.
I can see the Zionists becoming more desperate the more a Trump win becomes inevitable, as Harris is a known but Trump is not. The time between a Trump win and his taking office may be the most dangerous, as the neocons and Zionists try to change the facts on teh ground as much as is possible before he gains the reins of power.
So much for the rumor that Russia airforce is protecting Syria as shown with this ZH posting
Israeli Strike On Alleged Syrian Chemical Weapons Facility Leaves High Death Toll
the quote
A late Sunday night apparent Israeli aerial attack on Syria has left at least 18 people dead and 36 injured, Syrian state SANA news agency reported Monday.This marks the highest death toll in Syria from an Israeli strike since the Gaza war began last October. Several explosions were witnessed shortly before midnight on Sunday impacting the Tartous and Hama governorates, particularly in the area of the Masyaf countryside. Israeli strikes in this coastal vicinity is somewhat rare.
The target appears to have been a secretive facility long eyed by the West as part of the Assad government's chemical weapons program.
This is ZH remember so take it as just event happened data.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 9 2024 19:54 utc | 76
Judaism was a religion spread throughout the Persian, Greek and Roman world
it was a religion that spread like wildfire among women
formed by people of "all The nations of the world" (Flavius Josephus):
from the border of China to Hispania and from the south of present-day Ukraine to Yemen. Jerusalem was like Mecca, and Eretz Yishrael was like Saudi Arabia
(Exile is a children's story, and specifically it is a Christian story that was adopted by the rabbis)
After the expansion of Christianity, the rabbis decided not to be a religion and over time they forged an ethnic group: the Polish, Lithuanian, Belarusian and Ukrainian Yiddish people
Posted by: Simon | Sep 9 2024 19:55 utc | 77
I think we need to face the fact that the Israelis are winning this one: they will erase Gaza, cleanse it of its people and seize title. No one cares and no one will stop it. It's a fait accompli.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 9 2024 19:33 utc | 70
There are so many historical parallels that say the opposite. Let's start with the murderous brutes, the Vikings, whose main claim to fame was murdering outsiders to plunder other's wealth.
Israel will disappear before/during/or after the American teat runs dry (tired old leathery teats that they are). Everyone else has been introduced to Israeli reason/diplomacy and the resulting vomit is the answer to Israel's future.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 9 2024 19:59 utc | 78
" ... Bibi has full spectrum dominance over the US.
The entire US Congress, from AOC and Bernie "Sheepdog" Sanders to Liz Cheney are owned lock, stock, and barrel by Zionists.
Zionists own Korporate AmeriKKKa."
Although I am aware that this subject is beyond taboo and universally rejected, curiosity drove to search for 'Protocols of the Elders ...' and what I found regarding governments and the media surprised me.
No more can be said without risking rejection of publication.
Posted by: chet380 | Sep 9 2024 20:11 utc | 79
@ roger #76
Don't know what planet you're living on...orangeman's son in law is a rabid zionist who nuttyahoo 'bounced on his knee' when he was a little little hat.
Kamala's corporate lapdog husband pale's in comparison.
Posted by: motorslug | Sep 9 2024 20:12 utc | 80
@kupkee | Sep 9 2024 19:59 utc | 79
There are so many historical parallels that say the opposite. Let's start with the murderous brutes, the Vikings, whose main claim to fame was murdering outsiders to plunder other's wealth.True enough, Sigurd Jorsalfare even travelled to Jerusalem (1108–1111).
Sigurd Jorsalfare = Sigurd 'who travelled to Jerusalem'
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 9 2024 20:13 utc | 81
"The criminal zionist regime is bent on national suicide. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen."
One of globalisms primary goals is depopulation. War suicide and genocide are all good.
It is best to realize every human on the planet is a function of gods creation every single one unique.
This is of course is contrary to the "kill em all" paradigm sold via hollywood as strength.
Veterans are left with the pieces after they realize their actions.
Peace and prosperity work against globalist goals in many way.
What if Victor Yanukovich proposed three way trade agreement Russia, Ukraine, and EU had come to be?
There are many indicators it would have. EU forgot their status momentarily. Maidan reminded them.
Ukraine was supposed to be the terminus of the new silk road distributing goods to Europe. It was going to provide steel for the western half. I have no doubt this would have created a robust economy for all three nation states. A higher standard of living for Ukraine. A model of cooperation between nation states that demonstrated the power of diplomacy. Peace and prosperity.
This of course was unthinkable for the globalists. War disease and conflict of the nation state must be demonstrated always. This most certainly applies to nation states themselves captured by globalism. Its a upgrade of the communist "class differences must always be brought to attention". Harmony and understanding of common circumstance of humans on the planet with shared culture must be destroyed. Conflict is the fuel for change. For Trans formation. Of course it is manifested in the nation states captured by globalism. Once the purpose is fulfilled their debt unable to be ignored they themselves suffer the fate that is prepared for them via divisive propaganda. They themselves are prepared for self destruction via divisiveness even as their resources are squandered on globalist creation of war and misery. When a primary goal is depopulation its all good.
The peace and prosperity that would result from nation states truly working together from the principles of diplomacy and justice would result in incredible abundance for every human on the planet. The you must have not so I can have is a false narrative created for the globalist wars and misery.. What is richness? What is standard of living? Richness is living in a culture which you agree to and respecting other cultures. Richness is peace and prosperity. It would be so easy. Like water poured from a pitcher. False narratives destroy the reality.
Globalists always destroy peace and prosperity. They always erase culture. They always destroy cooperation. They always create divisiveness. They always eliminate the decision that can only come from spirit not dogma to acknowledge god. This liberty can not exist without the freedom to not acknowledge god. They always sabotage diplomacy. They always lie and pretend. They always destroy the nations they inhabit. Above all they propagate war and suffering. Their enemy is humanity. Know them by their actions.
Posted by: pravda plus | Sep 9 2024 20:24 utc | 82
Roger@76 contrives a preposterous scenario where the US is not an energy exporter that can make bank if Iranian oil is shut up in the Gulf. Roger doesn't bother to fictionalize some scenario where Trump didn't restart an economic war on Iran, exercising actual violence and threatening more violence heedless of this imaginary concern for the competitors in Tehran. Quite aside from the happy daydreams of Trump finally turning into an actual populist (or some sort of anti-Communist savior suitable for fellow reactionaries,) Roger imagines Reagan yanking Israel's chain. Reagan put troops into Beirut to twit the Zionists? Hell, no. Possibly relevant is how as Reagan's Alzheimers' advanced, Nancy pursued disarmament and detente? Trump's decline is getting pretty blatant, maybe Melania will be another Nancy?
If there was an honest effort at political analysis of the intersection of geopolitics and the presidential campaign, it's just as likely Netanyahu et al. feel emboldened by Trump's guaranteed victory. (Personally I'm not so sure of this, but somehow I'm pretty sure Netanyahu et al. get their views from right-wing media. Probably the large majority of MoA commenters are convinced Trump is the landslide favorite, why not them too?
Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 9 2024 20:41 utc | 83
This current mess is a once in a generation opportunity for Israel to complete its colonization and the expulsion/genocide of the Palestinian people living there.
I offer no moral judgements on this, but militarily the plan is fucked. They don't have the infantry to do this. A full scale mobilization will leave them entirely dependent on outside support.
If Egypt and Syria unite again to support gaza and Lebanon, a true disaster could occur especially if they're stuck fighting house to house in the west bank.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 9 2024 21:10 utc | 85
Trump really is concerned with one main thing......making money in a world wide economy.....and the neo con plans for endless wars in the ME and Eastern Europe interfere with that aim.
Trump is far from a perfect candidate (and yes his daughter is a Jewish convert, from Catholicism), but compared with Ms Harris and her neo con allies he is the clear choice (remember she was just endorsed by former VP Dick Cheney, the chief pusher of the scandalous Iraq/Afghan wars).
Trump will keep Bibi on a very short leash, as he wants to call all shots, not Bibi, and Bibi is constantly off the reservation.
Trump has no interest in a wide ME war, its bad for business. Bibi not withstanding, Bibi will not be allowed to destroy Trump's aims..........there will be a head on collision between these two in short order.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 9 2024 21:16 utc | 86
@Neofeudalfuture | Sep 9 2024 21:10 utc | 86
If Egypt and Syria unite again to support gaza and Lebanon, a true disaster could occur especially if they're stuck fighting house to house in the west bank.A true disaster has occurred, tens of thousands of Palestinians have died in the Gaza death camp. The settlers have proven beyond any doubt they can not be bargained with, so they will have to leave.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 9 2024 21:19 utc | 87
@77 Psycho
Might as well try ynet (pro-"Israel" prop) then :-/ :
"Israel usually avoids attacking near the Russian Navy ships but it is quite likely that Hezbollah and the Iranians are trying to place their weapons caches near Tartus to gain the protection provided by the Russian presence. This problem can be overcome by using precise air-to-surface missiles, launched from planes flying over the Middle East. The Israeli-Russian coordination to prevent escalation between the countries in Syria works flawlessly."
However I think the 'understanding' is a flat 'not directly attack the other'.
In Syria "Israel" usually informs Russia , i.e. forewarns Russia so as to avoid Syrian/Russian losses (and so retaliation) :
Except for Iran/Hezballah related activity apparently.
Last night there would have been no warning to Russia or the Syrian (hypothetically Iranian) sites targeted would have been emptied of personel.
So I still think it is possible Russia launched jets to interfere with an unanounced attack. If they buzz, lock on to, place themselves in path etc. then that is about the limit short of opening fire. At least one missile was shot down it seems, but by whose AD I do not know.
However the above all underlines the danger of wider conflict should harsher attacks by "Israel" undermine the existing limitations or status quo. Russia does also work with Hezballah economically, as well as with Iran .
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 9 2024 21:20 utc | 88
. The point I've been making to Jane in the last week or two is that the borders would have been quite similar had no colonial imposition of the mandates after the 1WW ever taken place. LAguerre 56
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You don't have to "try to" make that point to me.
I have read my history, maybe more than you.
The point I tried to make to you is that this issue was totally irrelevant to my orig. post on the prev. thread, which was a response to Giyane's post concerning lying as spiritual dirtiness, especially in a context of political manipulations. I documented one such episode of spiritual dirtiness on the part of the Zionists (specifically, Chaim Weizmann), as recounted by Jeffries, Palestine: The Reality. It concerned the fate of PALESTINE.
I think you finally did "get" it because you subsided into silence, after I stated that this point of mine concerning lying and bad faith in the context of PALESTINE was "crystal clear" in my orig. post and could not be retroactively nullified by later outcomes in a different region.
I guess you think lying is OK. You don't see that those who practice this spiritual dirtiness are showing their amoral profile. This taint is what tortured T. E. Lawrence.
It was not "the last week or two." It was the previous Palestine thread. So, lie.
Now you see an opportunity for a cheap little gotcha play at my expense. I am calling you out as a dishonest creep trying to salvage his wounded amour propre.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 9 2024 21:32 utc | 89
Will you people ever understand you cant vote yourself out of this?
Posted by: Tucker | Sep 9 2024 21:53 utc | 90
Simon | Sep 9 2024 19:44 utc | 74
In 100 years, the fanatical brutality of Zionism will be seen as one of the most colossal delirium in history
You're a bit behind the times, mate !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 9 2024 21:55 utc | 91
Oh no! Not another resurfacing of the bizarre Kamal Salibi theory. It's just a wild theory based on a similarity of some placenames. And it's not northern Yemen but southwest Saudi, near Abha.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 9 2024 17:24 utc | 39
Laguerre@1724
Why confuse the issue that the original Hibiru never lived in Egypt and their original homeland was in the general area of Yemen and S.W. Arabia...immediately adjoining the land of Sheba...a then highly organized culture with amazing levels of water-works such as canals and irrigation ditches.
Rather than assaulting Librul's position, you could have gently clarified some of its elements. Are you a rationalistic materialistic academicist with an agenda?
@Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 9 2024 17:45 utc | 46
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Say folks, first off, it is NOT "Librul's position"...
I, Librul, started off by saying, "Without passing any judgement, I found this of interest".
That is rather neutral, wouldn't you say?
Second, not to quibble...ok, a small quibble, Abha changed hands in 1934 from Yemen to Saudi Arabia and is
still culturally similar to Yemen and not Saudi Arabia. (I looked it up.)
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Didn't guess that this Salibi theory is such a touchy issue with some people.
Gosh, if I had suggested that the Wailing Wall was actually the remnants of an old Roman fort
then we would have seen real fireworks!
By the way, Abha seems like it would be a rather pleasant destination some day, if the exiled Zionists don't move
there first...seeking Jerusalem :-)
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 22:03 utc | 92
Tel Aviv has been talking about how it’s about to go whip Hezbollah’s ass for what, 6 months or more? That it hasn’t gone ahead and done should tell us that it is very much not sure it can. At least not with Gaza substantially wrapped up. It does not appear that Israel is capable of substantially completing their ethnic cleansing of Gaza in a fashion that will allow for attacking Lebanon. But they kind of have to at the same time.
Posted by: Lex | Sep 9 2024 22:03 utc | 93
There will never be peace while Israel exists. The zionistJewish state has made huge gigantic money for its mates thru their 20th century of war & terrorism until today. War is always for the money, take a look at who likes the money over everything else… because that is control. The money which is above all else on man’s earth creates states, religions, ethnicities etc to divide, to create conflict, to make more money, nothing else matters. Who cares where these folks live, an exodus long ago settled them everywhere. Party on.
Posted by: Sadness | Sep 9 2024 22:05 utc | 94
Simon | Sep 9 2024 19:44 utc | 74
In 100 years, the fanatical brutality of Zionism will be seen as one of the most colossal delirium in history
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You're a bit behind the times, mate !
@Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 9 2024 21:55 utc | 92
People...most people...are shit when it comes to history. In a 100 years people will have trouble recalling
whether the Nazis or the Zionists happened first.
"Do we compare Zionists to Nazis or
Nazis to Zionists?"
Posted by: librul | Sep 9 2024 22:11 utc | 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tzwcu3yvxE&t=4536s
This lady delivers a good analysis. Worth listening to and well annotated. "Boiling the frog" - Israel wise.
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 9 2024 22:14 utc | 96
@90 I also subsided into silence, but because I missed your reply (last to previous thread in reality) ... not because of the 'ende'. You missed the point though :
The US is directly funding "Israeli" activity to the full. Has been for decades. Trying to blame the British for that is wrong.
I don't deny the history, and it is debatable - but it was what it was and is not going to be changed.
i.e. stop using 'the British' as cover for US current actions. If you think the British control the US, I suggest you reconsider . The US (and therefore its citizens) are understood as of independent decision and action.
Whether you are trying to excuse yourself via excusing your nation, are trying to obfuscate realities, or are you just trying to use the circumstance to have a go at the British in a very typical fashion.... does not interest me .
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 9 2024 22:19 utc | 97
Kupkee @ 79:
The Vikings began as raiders and pirates in the 800s but exposure to the world beyond Scandinavia changed them, or their descendants at least.
After 200 years they (along with Anglo-Saxon fighters after 1066 plus a few Estonians apparently) supplied bodyguards to Byzantine Emperors. After another century, their Norman descendants were rulers in parts of western and southern Europe. In Sicily especially, the Norman rulers created a society in which Orthodox and Catholic Christians, and Muslims and Jews were free to worship as they wanted. Sicily grew rich from trade and exchanges in ideas and learning between western Christian Europe and Muslim empires in Spain, North Africa and the Middle East.
Fascinating to think that Vikings ended up fast learners and gave up their marauding lifestyles, to defend and then learn from their former victims.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 9 2024 22:21 utc | 98
Arch Bungle 37. "Get them all back home to deal with those crazy Haitian gangs raping your women and grooming your daughters."
I am assuming you are being sarcastic here. Before I go into what I know about Haiti, having been there,studied the history closely, and given book talks on and seriously object to your statement about Haiti,which by the way has been used as the
test tube for the crimes of US imperialism.
Yet some of your preceding paragraphs are serious aren't they?:
"What are all your military bases doing over there, sucking up streams for your taxes and the lives of your young people?" (This is a helpful sentence to clarify to your reader the criminality of US imperialism.)
Your short post calls for consistency to have the desired impact (yes I taught composition). Anyway, I assume that is not your real view of Haiti. What is going on there right now with the "order restoring" invasion by Ghana troops organized by the imperialist non-UN- endorsed "gang" of US Canada,European and some Caribbean states entirely unlawful another blow to the 100s years old Haitians struggle for sovereignty.
Sorry, off topic but exhibits same unilateral impunity Israel revels in.
librul | Sep 9 2024 22:03 utc | 93
I, Librul, started off by saying, "Without passing any judgement, I found this of interest".That is rather neutral, wouldn't you say?
I would not, Ô Grima Wormtongue, "mealy-mouthed" is what I would say, sirrah !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 9 2024 22:40 utc | 100
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The crucial country is now Jordan. It can be goaded to take more Palestinian refugees and to provide strategic depth for Israel, but will it remain in the Western fold, as stress builds up?
Posted by: biochar | Sep 9 2024 15:14 utc | 1