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September 16, 2024
West Experiences Blowback From Fostering Fascists In Ukraine

At the start of the Special Military Operation in February 2022 I warned of the blowback that, I asserted, would likely come if the West continued to pamper Nazi groups in Ukraine:

The U.S. aim is to create an insurgency in the Ukraine.

The Coming Ukrainian InsurgencyForeign Affairs
Russia’s Invasion Could Unleash Forces the Kremlin Can’t Control

Since 2015 the CIA has trained Ukrainian groups for exactly that purpose.

CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invadesYahoo

CIA support for Ukrainian Nazis has a long history.

Op-Ed: The CIA has backed Ukrainian insurgents before. Let’s learn from those mistakesLA Times

A new Nazi insurgency in eastern Europe is an exceptionally bad idea. Fascist groups from everywhere would join in. A few years from now it may well lead to Nazi terror in many European countries. Have we learned really nothing from the war on Syria and the ISIS campaign?

Me and Ivan Katchanovski were probably the only ones who had warned of this:

Katchanovski adds that, “This is also going to have a dangerous effect on Ukraine and potentially other countries because now, basically, Nazis in Ukraine are made into national heroes.” He also noted that Azov (as well as Western governments) has consistently pressured Zelensky — including with threats, and even before Russia invaded — not to seek a peace deal with Russia or withdraw forces from the Donbas region. In February, Azov branded Zelensky a “servant of the Russian people” after he suggested that he might negotiate with Moscow.

Katchanovski said that the valorization of the Azov Regiment is comparable to how the West initially supported the predecessors of the Taliban in their fight against the Soviet Union’s intervention in the war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, and also risks inspiring yet more far-right activists from other countries to join the conflict in Ukraine in order to gain military experience, potentially causing a blowback effect if they make it home.

Yesterday one avid U.S. supporter of the fascists in Ukraine tried to assassinate the Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump:

Jack Poso 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec – 1:39 UTC · Sep 16, 2024

EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Trump assassin Ryan Routh appeared in a propaganda video for the AZOV BATTALLION in May 2022
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Routh, himself being too old to fight, had tried to hire foreign mercenaries to fight on the fascist side in Ukraine. He obviously targeted Trump because he had promised to dictate an end to the war in Ukraine.

Was Routh more than a lone wolf in this?

Edward Snowden @Snowden – 23:27 UTC · Sep 15, 2024

We know little so far, but w alleged Trump shooter's personal and public participation in military activity in Ukraine, it is hard to imagine this White House's agencies can claim zero contact—"clean hands." Something of an Oswald vibe, here. Congress should get answers.
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As more people start to think about potential ways to end the war in Ukraine the far-right in Ukraine is threatening to use violence to prevent that:

SIMPLICIUS Ѱ @simpatico771 – 18:13 UTC · Sep 15, 2024

⚡️🇺🇦Ukraine's most feared drone warlord threatens Zelensky:

A serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the call sign "Madyar" openly and "without drama" threatens the Ukrainian government.

According to him, if someone negotiates with the Russian Federation "not in the interests of the Ukrainian people", then a million fighters will return from the front and overthrow such a government.
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The Washington Post tries to explain the issue:

‘Sprinkled with our blood’: Why so many Ukrainians resist land for peace
Ukraine is under pressure to cut a deal to end the war, especially if Trump wins, but there is likely to be fierce opposition from some soldiers and their families in the east.

It turns out that the 'so many' Ukrainians are not so many but a small radical minority that is willing to use force against politicians who want to take the necessary steps to make peace:

Polling, however, shows that Ukrainians are not ready to give up their land, especially among those soldiers in Donbas who have been fighting for it for the past 10 years.

[W]hile only 7 percent said they would join an armed protest in case of territorial concessions, that number more than doubled among soldiers and veterans — including those who have been fighting for the past decade, who have seen Russian forces raze the Ukrainian cities they capture to the ground, and who are now grappling with the prospect of losing their long-contested homeland.

The Post cites only few named sources in support of its thesis:

Vitaliy Barabash, the head of Avdiivka’s military administration, has been fighting Russia since 2014. The city was finally captured by Russia this winter after a decade of fighting.

He does not believe that Zelensky would sign a peace deal that would “abandon” Donbas — and said that it would be a “stupid mistake” to reason with Moscow. “Most people are hopefully that we will return to Avdiivka. They are ready to live in tents and rebuild this city.”

The report does not mention that Vitaliy Barabash, who is Jewish, was one of those who fought, and lost, with the fascist Azov battalion in Mariupol:

A Jewish Ukrainian soldier in the besieged Azovstal plant in Mariupol called on Israel on Wednesday night to intervene to save the garrison.

In a Facebook video posted by Jewish Kyiv-based entrepreneur and activist Ilgam Gasanov, Vitaliy Barabash said in Ukrainian, “It’s hard for me to speak, so my speech for me will be said by my brother, on behalf of all Ukrainian Jews who are together with me here.”

Barabash, also known as Benya, held a Ukrainian flag up to the camera as his friend read his statement, a Star of David tattoo clearly visible on Barabash’s hand.

Members of Azov and other 'nationalist' groupings in Ukraine are now experienced fighters. The have the means to fight as there are lots of Ukrainian weapons in unaccountable hands (machine translation):

Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Russia in Ukraine, more than 270,945 weapons have disappeared or been stolen.

In less than 2024, more weapons were stolen or lost than in the whole of last year – 78,217 units. At the same time, it is 4 times more than before the start of a full-scale war.

These weapons can be easily smuggled into Europe to target any politician who dares to pressure Ukraine into accepting an end of the war.

The attempted assassination of Trump is only one of the first of such incidents. (The motives for the assassination attempt against the Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico are still unknown.)

Many such incidents, predominantly in Europe, are likely to follow.

Comments

Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 14:01 utc | 38 Nationalist/Nazi number.
Jacques Baud, Postil Magazine, April 1, 2022
So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias. They are essentially composed of foreign mercenaries, often extreme right-wing militants. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, “>https://graphics.reuters.com/RUSSIA-UKRAINE/dwpkrkwkgvm/”> according to Reuters . They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities—including Swiss.

Posted by: iguana | Sep 16 2024 16:14 utc | 101

Didn’t know trucks could be driven on the river during winter. So guess that is how Odessa will be taken
Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 15:42 utc | 78
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This is heavily dependent on the weather, even in Russia the winters are no longer what they used to be.
It is hardly possible to plan such an action these days in terms of the weather

Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 16:22 utc | 102

“I’m voting for the guy they keep trying to kill.”
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 15:56 utc | 84
Ha, ha spit out my beer when I read that!!

Posted by: canuck | Sep 16 2024 16:29 utc | 103

So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias. They are essentially composed of foreign mercenaries, often extreme right-wing militants. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, “>https://graphics.reuters.com/RUSSIA-UKRAINE/dwpkrkwkgvm/”> according to Reuters . They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities—including Swiss.
Posted by: iguana | Sep 16 2024 16:14 utc | 100
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Well, the mercenaries have decreased significantly, there are still Poles, Georgians, some Lithuanians and a few French.
One reason may be the sequential actions of the Russian soldiers. NO MERCENARIES AS PRISONERS, at least not officially, they are disposed of on the spot, one reason why mercenaries are rarely found in the front line, preferring to avoid close combat. They prefer to “fight” from a distance with cannons, rockets, drones, etc.
Perhaps also the reason why there have NEVER been reports of prisoner exchanges with Lithuanians, Poles, etc.
As comrades, they have NO rights in war and under international law and can hang from the nearest tree

Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 16:30 utc | 104

Didn’t know trucks could be driven on the river during winter. So guess that is how Odessa will be taken
Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 15:42 utc | 78
Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 16:22 utc | 101
Not in the south, in Odessa. Too warm. Where it was done was in Leningrad during the 2WW, but that is far to the north.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 16 2024 16:33 utc | 105

@ Joe 78
“Didn’t know trucks could be driven on the river during winter. So guess that is how Odessa will be taken”
There are three ways the Russian army can take to liberate Odessa:
1. By sea using landing ships. Unlikely because Russia doesn’t have many landing ships and ships are too easy to target. Ships full of troops might tempt NATO to do a surprise attack from Romania with missiles NATO already has in place.
2. From the north, after Kiev has been taken. I don’t think the Russians will want to wait that long to claim this great prize. It’s unlikely unless the Ukie army collapses sooner and more completely than we expect.
3. Overland from the East. The problem is that there are a lot of rivers to cross. Around 2021, Andrei Raevsky (Saker) thought this was too hard and that it would be option 2, from the North. In WW2, the Soviets attacked from the East and crossed the rivers. Odessa was liberated on April 10, 1944, after the rasputitsa, so no, the rivers were not frozen then. Soviet and Russian armies mastered the art of river crossings, so that’s just a detail provided … there is no heavy artillery fire, or heavy drone attacks. But when the Ukie army collapses, it could be a cake-walk.
Time will tell.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 16 2024 16:34 utc | 106

Thanks for keeping the attention on this, it is a huge risk for both Ukraine and the West. I see fewer and fewer reports of the reformed Azov Brigade actually involved in the worst of the fighting that is grinding down units, but a lot about its separate recruiting operations. It’s hard to know how big these fascist forces are since they have their own recruiting and the order of battle doesn’t tell you much. But whereas a normal Ukrainian brigade has 4 maneuver battalions, the order of battle of the Azov “3rd Separate Assault Brigade” lists 7 maneuver battalions and a massive number of support units. Likewise the National Guard’s “12th Azov Special Forces Brigade” also lists 7 maneuver battalions. These forces are likely each several times the size of a normal Ukrainian brigade.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 16 2024 13:37 utc | 32
Nationalist/Nazi number. Sometime after the start of the SMO, Jacques Baud wrote an article for the Postil Magazine. He is ex Swiss military intel and had been part of the Nato ‘training’ stuff in Ukraine. He said at the start of the SMO, nationalist volunteer formations numbered 100,000 and made up 40% of the Ukraine military.
How much it has changed since I have no idea, but that piece by Baud is one point where a solid number can be found.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 14:01 utc | 38
Thank you both for making an introduction to what I wanted to mention.
When B mentions 14% “intransigents” in the (surviving, able or disabled) AFU against a 7% general rate. That can be the result of something very simple.
Differential attrition. Basically Azovs &C are there to send non-intransigent AFU to the slaughter.
As long as they have their “meat” flack-jacket, RF takes years to degrade their numbers (that’s why november 2023 I expected RF to fight them when they were without meat jackets)
If you start with 10% (and adding another 100.000 early) for you to end with 15%, all it takes is for Azovs to have been killed 5X less than regular soldiers. And that is for 2 and a half years and 4-5 armies, those 5X become magnitudes when we are talking about battles and even bigger ones on the day to day.
Only way to significantly attrition those guys is force them to take the front and/or fight them between meat replenishment.
My 2 cents

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 16:34 utc | 107

It seems reasonable to add this report here …
Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2024 10:15 utc | 1

https://t.me/bayraktar1070/2693

About the negotiations between Kiev and Al-Qaeda*. Part 1
In the Syrian province of Idlib, negotiations were held between the Ukrainian special services and terrorists of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham* group. It is difficult to hide anything in the Middle East, where there are always ears and eyes.
The Turkish newspaper Aydınlık even published a photo allegedly from this meeting.
Kiev’s goal is to free radical Chechen fighters held in the HTS* prison. It is clear that Ukraine plans to use them against Russia.
But a reader who is far from the Syrian war may ask himself: who are these terrorists who are sitting in prisons with other terrorists?
They are all united by one Arabic word and name – Al-Qaeda*. This word is translated as “base”, “foundation”. The “mother” and foundation of the once powerful “ISIS”*, “HTS”*, and other lesser-known organizations is “Al-Qaeda”*. It’s just that each of its “sons” went their own way.
“ISIS”* was born in the American filtration camp “Camp Buka” during the occupation of Iraq. In the press, the camp became known as the “ISIS incubator”*, since nine top leaders were kept and united there. After the “triumph” in Iraq, having gained strength and success in 2014, “ISIS”* chose its own path – it declared war on everyone: both the civilized world and other jihadists. Yes, the group fought with its “party drags”, shedding rivers of blood of “brothers” from “Al-Qaeda”* and other militants. After the defeat, it lost its territories – that very “base”, going underground again. Where it is again waiting for its time, thriving, including in “prison jamaats” , as it was in the “Camp Buka” camp.
“HTS”* also traces its lineage back to “Al-Qiada”*, which was initially its wing in Syria. They waged a bloody struggle for power with “ISIS”*, but “HTS”* chose the path of the “Taliban”* – they say, we are no longer international terrorists, but are waging a war only against the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The reason for this metamorphosis is obvious – “HTS”* simply does not want to repeat the fate of “ISIS”*.
Following the “freezing” of the war in Syria in 2020, “HTS”* militants were left with about half of the northern province of Idlib, bordering Turkey. And it was this territory that became their base and breeding ground for recruiting into their essentially terrorist army. Idlib today is a huge “Camp Buka”, a base and incubator for various foreign intelligence services to create new terrorists. But according to the plan, this plant should produce products that are completely controlled by the curators.
Publicly, the HTS* group broke with Al-Qaeda*, and the group’s leader, Julani, changed his military uniform for a decent, expensive suit. In 2021, he gave an interview to the American press in which he claimed that he had never called for terrorist attacks against America and European countries. They say that his target is only Syrian, Iranian and Russian troops. And he even admitted,that he writes lettersto his grandfather’s village in the United States so that he would be removed from the list of terrorist organizations of the West.
It was claimed that British intelligence was behind these meetings. MI6 officers held talks with the leader of Julani in order to complete the rebranding process and publicly “launder” the HTS* terrorists. But why? To arm them officially and to the fullest extent. Because as a military force they showed themselves well, but they could not do anything against the Russian air force and the Syrian army. Therefore, this military force must get stronger, but become an absolutely obedient tool in their hands.
What happens next? In 2020-2021, Julani begins a large-scale “cleansing” of the unwanted with the help of British and American intelligence services. Of course, the Turks were also involved.
Everyone who does not want to “lie down” under Julani and his new rules of the game of survival begins to die like flies. The Western coalition’s MQ-9 Reaper drones are eliminating one field commander after another, shooting them and blowing them up in their cars. And soon the leaders of the factions opposing Julani accuse him of betraying the “jihad”. Well, quite reasonably.
In addition to the liquidations of field commanders, arrests begin. On Julani’s orders, “HTS”* throws many foreign jihadists into their prisons and tortures them there.
(Continued)
* – organizations banned in the Russian Federation

https://t.me/bayraktar1070/2695

^^^^ On the negotiations between Kiev and Al-Qaeda*. Part 2
Those terrorists in Syria who still do not want to play by the new rules of the West and remain at large, and there are many of them, are beginning to unite around the group “Khuras ad-Din”* – “Guardians of Religion”*. Its “mother” is the same “Al-Qaeda”*…
​​From the US point of view, the “Guardians” posed a much greater danger than all other groups. Firstly, they did not hide their ties with the international “Al-Qaeda”*, and secondly, they professed “global jihad”. At that time, the group numbered from 700 to 2,500 people, more than half of whom were foreigners from Tunisia, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Jordan, and Central Asian countries.
In 2020, against the backdrop of the “cleansing”, other groups joined the “Guardians”, including people from the Caucasus. With the outbreak of the civil war in Syria in 2011, quite a few of them came – we are talking about hundreds, thousands of people. There were veterans of the war against Russia, and there was also a new generation of supporters of “Ichkeria”. How many have survived at the moment is unknown.
Armed clashes broke out between the “guards” and “HTS”*. “HTS”* destroys some units and groups, some effectively resist and they negotiate with them. They lay down their arms, stay with their families in Idlib or go to pro-Turkish groups in Afrin. That is, in essence, they surrender to Turkish intelligence. But you understand, those who laid down their arms and stayed in Idlib – slowly end up in “HTS”* prisons. They are not killed, but held as assets. The assets are in the hands of Britain and the USA. Because the key to the issue of the status of “HTS”* and the exclusion from the list of terrorists is in their hands.
Conclusions:
Now these terrorists are recruited by Ukraine. Or rather, by the largest PMC state on the planet. I do not agree with the authors of the article that jihadists will be sent to the front – even several thousand will not play a significant role there. They are needed for something else.
Just as ISIS* was once born in Camp Bouc, so the current instrument was formed in the prisons of Idlib – it is just time to “harvest”. These people are planned to be used to destabilize the situation in the Caucasus, in Central Asia. It is not for nothing that the British are actively working.
It is there that these organizers and leaders, having received money and weapons flows, will acquire “cannon fodder”. There they will form new groups with loud names. And Kiev will become the base for these terrorists. However, Ukraine has long been welcoming supporters of “Ichkeria” since the 90s.
The process of legalizing “HTS”*, which began in 2020, does not stop. Removing them from the terrorist lists will give Britain and the US the opportunity to arm them. The West continues to flirt with radicals once again, but their “mother” was and will remain “Al-Qaeda”*. And it will not go anywhere from their consciousness.
Now Kiev has offered “HTSH”* 75 drones to strike Russian and Syrian bases, but that’s just a piece of cake. It’s obvious that Ukraine will be left to dirty its hands on the thugs – the gentlemen will remain in white gloves. Such is the double proxy war.
P/S
In conclusion, I will give a typical biography of one of the most media-friendly leaders of the CIS in Syria – Murad Margoshvili. It was his face that was on the cover photo of the article in the Turkish press. In the confrontation between the “guards” and “HTSH”*, he marched with his unit against Julani and “won” neutral status for himself as a result of the fighting.
Murad Margoshvili, nicknamed Muslim ash-Shishani, is a Chechen from the Pankisi Gorge of Georgia, a participant in the wars against Russia on the side of the so-called “Ichkeria”.
In the late 90s, Margoshvili joined the detachment of the international terrorist Khattab, who fought in Chechnya and Dagestan against federal forces. From 2008 until joining the Syrian conflict, Margoshvili was engaged in terrorist activities in Dagestan. Before 2008, he spent several years in Georgia, where he arrived after two years of imprisonment in Russia. Forged documents helped him avoid a more severe punishment.
It is unknown whether Margoshvili is alive or not at the moment. However, in 2021, Russian aviation destroyed the house of a field commander, where a meeting of militants was taking place at that time. As a result, three people were killed and 13 were injured.
S. Shilov
* – organizations banned in the Russian Federation

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 16 2024 16:37 utc | 108

Best payback to Nazis and their western supporters is to take Odessa and cut off access to Black Sea.Economic impact tremendous. New gas lines to East Europe and Eurasian belt road

Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 16:40 utc | 109

If, after two years of war and several hundred thousand KIA Selensky hasn’t managed to draft most of his organised enemies and throw them into the meat grinder, he is the wrong guy for the job.
It is one thing to have been pressured into all sorts of things by Azow-Scum since 2014. It is a completely different story if a government that is desperate for mobilizing anything and anybody to send to the front sends bakers and engineers and doctors to die in the trenches instead of armed nazi scum that the government can’t control.

Posted by: Marvin | Sep 16 2024 16:41 utc | 110

Posted by: Jo | Sep 16 2024 12:28 utc | 14
No, you are reporting typical antifa propaganda. Once and for all, there is no connection between white supermacists and the maga movement. Nom matter how you present the facts to seem that way.
This guy and probably the previous one are of those paid activists that typically are employed around color revolution stuff. Like the blm riots.
Antifa and all the soros crap is specifically targeting Russia. You need to check your allies.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 16:46 utc | 111

peterAU1@1104
Thanks. Bookmarked map.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2024 16:48 utc | 112

Regarding Azov detachments, companies, etc.
Has anyone noticed that there are hardly any reports about their operations anymore?
The last mention I was aware of was that Azov units refused to fight on the front line.
Otherwise there is a strange calm around this unit, they are not in Kursk, they are not mentioned anywhere, mercenaries are mentioned, which is actually strange that they admit this so openly in Kiev, Azov, well maybe they are in the area around Kiev or on the Belarusian border.
But it is more likely that this unit was given the task of protecting Odessa.
YOU SHOULD NEVER FORGET..Odessa is much more important to the west of NATO than Kiev!
Feedback geben
Seitenleisten
Verlauf
Gespeichert

Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 16:50 utc | 113

There are three ways the Russian army can take to liberate Odessa:
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Time will tell.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 16 2024 16:34 utc | 105
I thought quite some time ago that the key to river crossing was Karkiv to Poltava to Kremenchug – then the choices for left bank crossing point would be multiple. No so do I think now. There are too many forests and there is the Vorskla. This geography is probably how Charles XII lost there.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 16:50 utc | 114

Canuck@1240
Thanks. Greater the level of centralization, whether economically, media-wise, militarily AND politically; the fewer liberties enjoyed by the subject serfs…that means just about all of us.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2024 16:52 utc | 115

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0WAJ8eYskQ&t=3s
Very good discussion at the Duran regarding yesterday’s assassination attempt on President Trump.
Alexander Mercouris really gets into it around the 12 and a half minute mark.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 16 2024 16:52 utc | 116

Giyane | Sep 16 2024 13:19 utc | 27
Islam is something that is not indigenous to Britain. Nor is the great influx of muslims in recent decades.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 13:36 utc | 31
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I like it. Reverse colonialism.
Anglos reaping what they have sown. I know it was the leaders, but most people go along with the leaders, and leaders exist primarily to be scapegoats for people’s problems. In older pagan European cultures, leaders were blamed for droughts and poor crops, because they “must have angered the Gods”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 16:53 utc | 117

Posted by: Inka | Sep 16 2024 15:16 utc | 65
They were training before the SMO as well, i mean they were certainly getting a lot of experience using women and children for target practice.

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 16 2024 16:54 utc | 118

Odessa also could be the place azovs and hardened nazis make the last stand. Easy to grind. Imagine the Russian partisans who fantasised so long for cutting nazi throats. Dream come true
Surely Russian special forces in directing and leading them

Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 16:54 utc | 119

No, you’re going to get undrinkable salty water. It’ll be sodium something, probably chloride or sulfate .
Posted by: nazcalito | Sep 16 2024 16:06 utc | 91
I definitely would not use lye.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2024 16:57 utc | 120

JessDTruth@1634
River crossings for sure. Likely the R.U. is massively boosting production and strategies/tactics for crossing the Dnieper…regionally quite close to Zap city is my projection. Time will tell.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2024 16:58 utc | 121

Naked Capitalism has a page up on what they know about the would be Trump assassin.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/09/on-the-second-trump-assassination-attempt-what-we-know-so-far.html

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 16 2024 16:59 utc | 122

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New gas lines to East Europe and Eurasian belt road
Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 16:40 utc | 108
Yes. Direct connection to Hungary is strategic. But where to cross the Carpathians – not through Ivano-Frankivist Oblast one would think?

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 16:59 utc | 123

canuck | Sep 16 2024 15:56 utc | 85

Over the boulders, under stones he roams,
The Bushman wanders, always far from homes.
Yet know, my love, and hold this truth in heart,
Soft landings wait wherever you depart.

Soft landings wait wherever you depart.

??? She’s a slag ? She done a poo ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 16 2024 17:01 utc | 124

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 16 2024 15:12 utc | 64
Again rubbish and circular arguments to satisfy your developing cognitive dissonance that your ideological choice is the one you are actually fighting against.
Trump was attacked on the Russia narrative by your political choice, he was railroaded by those of your political choice, was color-revolutioned by the footsoldiers (all kinds of antifa blm the same for me) of your political choice and now it seems also his assasin has been funded by those of your political choice.
White supermacists and racists are not on the side of MAGA. They are on the other side. All those woke progressive liberals are in fact the racists for segregating the minorities and keeping them slaves. Trumps economic nationalist policies would have enriched the inner cities and those minorities kept in the dark by their race baiting overlords.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 17:02 utc | 125

Posted by: Inka | Sep 16 2024 15:27 utc | 70
The elections were stolen semi-legally. Via ballot harvesting operations.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 17:05 utc | 126

Since the Rothschilds have been invoked to help the financials of Banderastan it reflects well on Russia’s resolve to defeat the ZIO/GLOBO/HOMO BORG.
The global asset pillagers are going to loose their shirts, socks and underwear taking the Rat-children with them.

Posted by: bike-anarkist | Sep 16 2024 17:05 utc | 127

the key to river crossing
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 16:50 utc | 113

The key to a river crossing is controlling the floodgates of the dams upstream.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2024 17:07 utc | 128

Some guy on Twitter reposted on some TG I can’t find again made a funny:
“I’m voting for the guy they keep trying to kill.”
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 15:56 utc | 84

Jimmy Dore made a kind of similar conclusion (at 10:08):
https://youtu.be/QvlXeszTwe8

Posted by: blueswede | Sep 16 2024 17:07 utc | 129

3. Overland from the East. The problem is that there are a lot of rivers to cross. Around 2021, Andrei Raevsky (Saker) thought this was too hard and that it would be option 2, from the North. In WW2, the Soviets attacked from the East and crossed the rivers. Odessa was liberated on April 10, 1944, after the rasputitsa, so no, the rivers were not frozen then. Soviet and Russian armies mastered the art of river crossings, so that’s just a detail provided … there is no heavy artillery fire, or heavy drone attacks. But when the Ukie army collapses, it could be a cake-walk.
Time will tell.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Sep 16 2024 16:34 utc | 105
I thought quite some time ago that the key to river crossing was Karkiv to Poltava to Kremenchug – then the choices for left bank crossing point would be multiple. No so do I think now. There are too many forests and there is the Vorskla. This geography is probably how Charles XII lost there.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 16:50 utc | 113
Maybe, getting to Kremenchug seems to have a lot of rivers as well (maybe clearer road by sumy)
But you don’t need to get to Kremenchug, E95 or even P55 could be good entry points and you can get there by controlling H11.
Milites or anybody with serious military knowledge can do a much better job at seeing possibilities, I wouldn’t count any chickens until/if RF has a firm hold on Kryvyi Pih (added bonus of adding a buffer area around the ZNPP)

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 17:13 utc | 130

Isolated small groups of AFU troops are surrendering around Koronevo area. Maybe they were left there once RUAF pushed AFU out of Koronevo outskirts, in the areas and forests and villages east of Koronevo.
Either way it means that section of the front is changing hands.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:17 utc | 131

@129: link.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1835728877550723565

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:17 utc | 132

Another undetermined NATO MLRS was hit by Iskander in Sumy region.
https://t.me/druschbaFm_en/43660

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:20 utc | 133

Religion is Poison
-Mao

Posted by: hightrekker | Sep 16 2024 17:22 utc | 134

ossi (112)
The Azov Battalion, has changed it name – to the 3rd Assault Brigade – to try and hide what it is.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 17:23 utc | 135

River crossings for sure. Likely the R.U. is massively boosting production and strategies/tactics for crossing the Dnieper…regionally quite close to Zap city is my projection. Time will tell.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 16 2024 16:58 utc | 120
That why lately I have been asking for any signs of RF sorties along the E105 towards Zaporizhia.
Would deny easy retreat, when AFU tries to get behind the dnieper, and once the dunkirk job is done can be used as a staging area towards the new fulcrum (150 km by road to Kryvyi Pih, nikopol by the right bank would be a clear intermediate objective although a fourchette to Dnipro, also by the right bank, would be a likely move to split and reduce any serious defense )

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 17:25 utc | 136

Thanks b and contributors for this very informational article and thread.

Posted by: abierno | Sep 16 2024 17:32 utc | 137

Odessa crunch time Russians in Transnistria could also come into play

Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 17:32 utc | 138

“Have we learned really nothing from the war on Syria and the ISIS campaign?”
No, noting.

Posted by: lester | Sep 16 2024 17:34 utc | 139

ossi (112)
The Azov Battalion, has changed it name – to the 3rd Assault Brigade – to try and hide what it is.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 17:23 utc | 134
Yes, but lately I think they have been hanging out in a calm zone between 3 oblasts…

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 17:34 utc | 140

ossi (112)
The Azov Battalion, has changed it name – to the 3rd Assault Brigade – to try and hide what it is.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 17:23 utc | 134
And the 12th Assault Brigade, last time I heard about the 3rd Azov they were near Chassov Yar. The 12th were around Novgorodskoye (NiuYork) recently.
Anyway, Azov is just one among LOTS of banderite battalions : Misanthropic , Nightingale , Kraken , Kiev1 & Kiev2, Dnipro1, Karpatian Zich … most of them were melted in the AFU during the SMO , mostly as barrier battalions. Karpatians were integrated in the 93rd and 94th motorised around Artiomovks (Bakmut) and Soledar for an example.

Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 16 2024 17:37 utc | 141

RUAF took partial control of Lyubomovka, Uspenovka on the border and the AFU attack south of Veseloye is bogged down.

❗️Very optimistic news is coming from the Kursk border area, and not of a situational-tactical, but of a strategic nature.
1. Finally, we managed to really gain a foothold in Lyubimovka (Korenevsky district). Part of the village is already occupied by the Russian Armed Forces
2. And the most important thing is the liberation of the border Uspenovka. This settlement allows us to take under fire control one of the important logistics routes (marked with a blue dotted line) from the Ukrainian Belovod, which supplies a significant part of the occupation corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Uspenovka creates very serious problems for the Ukrainian military, and in the strategic perspective is the beginning of the process of taking the enemy into “logistics pincers”.
There is no need to rush here. The main thing is to protect people. And those who command in this direction are doing quite well.
P.S. Veseloye is below us, the enemy is completely bogged down in this area.
“>https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1835729923748597793/photo/1

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:38 utc | 142

American collusion with “real” Nazis goes back to Allen Dulles and Operation Sunrise. Author Yulian Semenyov was given access by Yuri Andropov to KGB files about the abortive attempt by Dulles to organize a separate peace with SS general Karl Wolff in Ascona in order to get the US army into Germany and take Berlin. Stalin had a spy who informed on this plan. I will let you guess his name.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Sep 16 2024 17:42 utc | 143

Kind of tangentially related to b’s topic:

Stefanchuk will check information about mass exit of Ukrainians from citizenship
The Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Ruslan Stefanchuk, will check the information on the mass applications of Ukrainian citizens abroad to withdraw from citizenship.
He told Ukrainian News Agency about this.
“All the information is in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I received this information and I will definitely look into this issue, but the issue of relinquishing citizenship is clearly regulated by the Law of Ukraine on Citizenship and the Constitution,” Stefanchuk said.
He emphasized that the authorities of Ukraine are interested in Ukrainian citizens remaining citizens of Ukraine.
“…That is why the President submitted a bill on multiple citizenship to the parliament, and I hope that in the near future the Verkhovna Rada will be able to consider this law in order to give all citizens of Ukraine a continuous legal connection with the state of Ukraine,” Stefanchuk emphasized.

Seems that, apart from the fanatical Banderite zealots, the concept of Ukrainian patriotism turns out to be quite shallow.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 16 2024 17:43 utc | 144

And not for the first time, forgot the link: https://ukranews.com/en/news/1034623-stefanchuk-will-check-information-about-mass-exit-of-ukrainians-from-citizenship

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 16 2024 17:45 utc | 145

Posted by: Inka | Sep 16 2024 15:27 utc | 70
The elections were stolen semi-legally. Via ballot harvesting operations.
Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 17:05 utc | 125
I doubt Inka watched the stopping of the count in the close, disputed states, the mysterious water sprinkler break, the 4 hour mad rush to print more ballets because the predicted count went overwhelmingly to Trump.
And, yes, 81 million votes for Biden, not even achieved by manufactured hero, Barry Obama, the most ballots ever counted in an American Election.
Yessirree. Most Honest Election ever.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 16 2024 17:46 utc | 146

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 16 2024 17:43 utc | 143
Even if the Rada sets a law on multiple/dual citizenship, Ukraine is done demographically. Russia doesn’t care if the nationalist minded people go to EU. Who goes to Russia are vastly non-ukro nationalist minded people.
The hardcore nazis will probably settle in the west or go into EU. There will be a point where EU attempts to move Ukrainians back to Ukraine by force or ‘persuasion’ will backfire on these EU states. And there will be some terror campaigns within the EU as a consequence of several reasons, including anger toward the lying west, corruption, stealing etc.
Not to mention Ukrainian hookers make up over 50% of employees in Berlin.
So, what criteria of ‘state being toast demographically’ is there unchecked?
Russia and EU will absorb the population, that is the trend so far.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:51 utc | 147

“Oswald vibes” is ridiculous. Snowden is, of course, under the influence of Russian intelligence, and at this point you’d have to be willingly ignorant not to recognize Trump as Moscow’s favored candidate, and not just because he’s some “peacenik” (only on this one issue, actually – remember he put Deep State, CIA Man, Mike Pompeo as his Secretary of State).
Trump and co. have been promoting violent rhetoric since 2015 – calling for mass deportations, denaturalization of citizens, spreading blood libel about immigrants, provoking pogroms, and are reaping what they sow. The US far-right are freaking out because they realized they’re not the only ones who are armed. Good. Let them freak, let them cry. My one qualm is that Trump should be taken alive to stand trial in Tehran for the murder of Soleimani. No presidential immunity (seriously, can you believe there are people who think this guy ain’t one of the elites?) for him there.
@ Posted by: kupkee | Sep 16 2024 17:46 utc | 145
Gish gallop of refuted bullshit and FUD, but let’s focus on this bit: “yes, 81 million votes for Biden, not even achieved by manufactured hero, Barry Obama”
The population, believe it or not, increased from 2012 (Obama’s last election) and 2020. I know this might come as a surprise, because you might come from an Eastern European country with a declining population, but this is really not so surprising for the rest of us.
The idea that the 2020 election was stolen is sheer cope from conservatives who misunderstand how unpopular they are and want to cast their unpopularity as a kind of martyrdom or “virtuous loser” shtick.
Trust me, no one is madder than me about how 2020 turned out. I wanted Howie Hawkins to do a 50 state sweep and institute a Green Reign of Terror. I didn’t get my way, but you don’t see me saying the vote was fucking rigged. The problem with the electoral system isn’t fraud, it isn’t undocumented immigrants voting, it’s that it’s structured to return a two party system. A real democracy in this country would not feature first past the post or an anti-democratic Senate or unelected Supreme Court or an electoral college. Focus your ire where it matters and stop playing into the conservative media complex’s spectacle (unless you’re getting paid to be part of it, in which case I implore you to slack off more).

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 17:55 utc | 148

I have two observations to add on b’s OP.
As a few already mentioned, we are seeing the colonial modus operandi in all its evil glory. Supporting militarily and politically convenient groups, almost always minorities, to get a certain territory under control via armed blackmail. Afganistan, Iraq, the ustasa in Croatia, the albanians on the balkans, the bandera nationalists in ukraine, etc. God knows how many times this has been used… It is one of the most vile tactics and what actually every citizen of the so-called RoW knows and has experienced first hand (not that many on this forum though). It is also what is fueling the move away from Western civilization. It is also why many countries in the RoW appear weak: they are alone fighting western-weaponized minorities as a majority and many times it doesnt work well.
Second, the assassin. The first one left no clues as to his motives and life. This one however did. His life and convictions have been funded, relatively directly, by US government agencies. Let that sink in. It will in a few days on the majority of Americans. Their government has supported and nurtured the convictions of the man that wanted to kill a candidate that would have represented 50%, give or take, of the population. A little bit of colonial policies also inside the US.
The whole progressive movement with their lunatics running around funded by government agencies, soros and other assorted “world improvers” must and will disappear in the trash heap of history. Unfortunately we still need to live with the consequences of these crazy policies. I just hope that they dont double down, just as their predecessors (you think progressive crazies appear for the first time?) did in Weimar germany, the reaction to which brought an even bigger catastrophe.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 17:55 utc | 149

This TAA-2.0 looks very murky and non-concrete. I don’t buy it again.

Posted by: AI | Sep 16 2024 17:59 utc | 150

@87 vratg
Posts like yours are aggravating to the extreme.
I have already outlined the MO of leftists such as yourself who wish to obfuscate the outcome of WW2 to reflect the lie that it was really about fascism (the lie) versus communism (the truth).
Of course, the overall gist of such an argument is that either Germany and the U.S. we’re feigning blows against each other and the 500,000 incinerated in Dresden or the numerous German POWs was a lie or that the two fascist powers could not agree as rival mafiosa families and so yielded half of Europe to the Soviets because of this disagreement.
This is, of course, total nonsense.
NKVD infiltration into the Roosevelt cabinet was enormous with Henry Dexter White being the most well-known. The Soviets could not have hoped to defeat the Germans without Lend-Lease. And overall, American First Nationalism had been crushed by the interventionist movement that had let Pearl Harbor happen/develop and had blitzed the public about the safety of democracy abroad.
Overall, Nazi crimes were raised in the mediasphere in the west and Communist crimes were diminished. This is unassailable.
Of course, communists can not be honest about WW2 because their whole effort in life is not to destroy the western empire but rather to capture it lock, stock, and barrel. They need a centralized government to implement their world policy.
None of this is written to excuse the NSDAP, but so to reaffirm that WW2’s design by all three belligerents was to stifle multi-polarity, with the Germans ending up as the scapegoat.

As many of us have deconstructed time and time again, the Indo-European wannabe Nazis in Ukraine were distrusted by the Germans in WW2. And indeed, their stupidity is again front and center in their inability to recognize that their best future ahead lies in throwing in their lot with the Russians who will permit a level of sovereignty and anti-corruption not seen in Ukraine for generations.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 18:01 utc | 151

Posted by: hightrekker | Sep 16 2024 17:22 utc | 133
##########
And yet Mao was never able to erase Taoism, Buddhism, or Confucianism. Human beings have spiritual dimensions. We’re not meat robots.
Mao’s statement makes sense. Communism, as with most ideologies, struggles to tolerate competing visions. Christians don’t like Muslims. Jews don’t like anybody. America has no actual friends, etc.
An ideology is either the truth/ideal, or it is not. Allowing room for competing ideologies reflects a lack of confidence in the prime vision. Going back to the violence of the Boxer rebellion and the struggle/torture sessions to create unified thinking through shame, and driving people to suicide, Maoism can be seen for what it really was. Another dangerous cult of personality that eschewed harmony and respect for power and degradation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 18:02 utc | 152

RUAF took partial control of Lyubomovka, Uspenovka on the border and the AFU attack south of Veseloye is bogged down.
❗️Very optimistic news is coming from the Kursk border area, and not of a situational-tactical, but of a strategic nature.
1. Finally, we managed to really gain a foothold in Lyubimovka (Korenevsky district). Part of the village is already occupied by the Russian Armed Forces
2. And the most important thing is the liberation of the border Uspenovka. This settlement allows us to take under fire control one of the important logistics routes (marked with a blue dotted line) from the Ukrainian Belovod, which supplies a significant part of the occupation corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Uspenovka creates very serious problems for the Ukrainian military, and in the strategic perspective is the beginning of the process of taking the enemy into “logistics pincers”.
There is no need to rush here. The main thing is to protect people. And those who command in this direction are doing quite well.
P.S. Veseloye is below us, the enemy is completely bogged down in this area.
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1835729923748597793/photo/1
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 17:38 utc | 141
Uspenovka is interesting, a 122 mm howitzer, 15 km radius, can basically cut logistics inside the all western kursk front and cover all main lines from sumy…

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 18:03 utc | 153

The Grayzone – has a good post up on the latest assassination attempt – on the Orange One.
“Before he was caught with an AK-47 on a golf course near Trump, Ryan Routh went to Kiev to fight for Ukraine’s military and recruit for its International Legion.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/09/15/suspect-trump-assassination-plot-recruited-for-ukraines-international-legion/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 18:08 utc | 154

@ Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 18:01 utc | 150
Nazi nonsense. The Hearst yellow press in the US was adamantly opposed to Soviet communism and is the source of many smears used against the USSR to this day. The US also had an imperial interest in keeping Germany down, which coincided with the Soviet interest of, uh, not having millions of its people exterminated by nazi death squads. But thank you for taking some time to note for us anti-imperialists that “multipolarity” is a nazi canard and that what communists should fight for is world revolution and not multiple imperialist powers of equal strength (the world situation, might I add, in 1984).

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 18:08 utc | 155

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 17:55 utc | 147
The density of crazy progressives like you today is very high. After so much absence you are back on this pro-russia forum.
Cognitive dissonance much?
You have had 4 years people, total narrative control, total lawfare and what have you got to show for it? Kamala Harris? Its not your fault, the agencies are playing you.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 18:11 utc | 156

“deeply unwell traitor”
Les not degrade traitors by comparing them to Trump

Posted by: hightrekker | Sep 16 2024 18:11 utc | 157

Ukrainian Journalist Diana Panchenko
@Panchenko_X
has revealed videos of Ukrainian politicians partying at an exclusive luxury resort in the Maldives.
They are wearing hundreds of thousands of dollars in jewellery, including Rolex and Cartier.
Where did the money come from?

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1835740129820029292/video/1

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 18:12 utc | 158

It doesn’t even have to be out-and-out terrorism occurring in Western Europe. Gangland turf wars as (possibly well-armed) Ukrainian arrivistes, seeking to fund neo-Nazi activities, clash with the longer-established proprietors.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 16 2024 18:13 utc | 159

Add the vigilantism against Haitian migrants, the bomb threats against city hall and schools in Springfield, OH to the list of fascist blowback occurring in the US. The Toronto International Film Festival had to cancel a screening of Russians At War due to Canadian Ukrainian objection to this film. A film made by a Russian-Canadian documentary filmmaker, an opponent of the war, and made without the knowledge or permission of the Russian government (WSWS.org).

Posted by: Keme | Sep 16 2024 18:15 utc | 160

Methinks the Kursk Klown show hit its sell-by date around September 1. Everything from there is just rotting meat and waiting for the maggots to hatch.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 16 2024 18:15 utc | 161

I doubt Inka watched the stopping of the count in the close, disputed states, the mysterious water sprinkler break, the 4 hour mad rush to print more ballets because the predicted count went overwhelmingly to Trump.
And, yes, 81 million votes for Biden, not even achieved by manufactured hero, Barry Obama, the most ballots ever counted in an American Election.
Yessirree. Most Honest Election ever.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 16 2024 17:46 utc | 145
Also, all the videos of people driving up and stuffing ballot dropoff boxes in the middle of the night, “helping” people in nursing homes fill out their ballots, allowing and counting mail-in ballots received late, without matching signatures, undated, etc. But no, it was a perfectly fair and above-board election with no irregularities.

Posted by: Phil R | Sep 16 2024 18:16 utc | 162

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 17:55 utc | 147
Population of the us as per census.gov. Votes are from wikipedia….
2008
69,498,516 299,106,000
2020
81,283,501 331,825,321
2008 was 90% of 2020 by population only 85% of the votes so population growth doesn’t adequately explain the difference.

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 16 2024 18:17 utc | 163

@156
I am voting for the guy the Biden convention’s nazis are trying to kill.

Posted by: paddy | Sep 16 2024 18:24 utc | 164

Re: Ukrainian Citizenship ?
Going through the numbers it’s grim for Kiev:
1) Since 2014 about 1/2 of Ukrainians who fled abroad went to the RF. I recall a figure of 8 million went to the RF. Add in a million or so from 2022 too. These people likely all have RF citizenship by now. The population of the Donbas and Crimea also have RF citizenship . That’s also a big number.
2) I think including the Ukrainians who fled to the EU since 2014, including those since 2022 are around 8-9 million. It’s a safe prediction that a sizable majority are doing what they can to secure various EU citizenships.
Note – the exodus from Kiev ruled areas started in 2014. Those are the relevant population figures. Most figures that are we see published only count those leaving in 2022 and after. Keep that in mind when analyzing the population under Kiev’s control. (Hint it’s much MUCH smaller than you think)
Finally – there have been on and off rumblings in various European countries about sending the draft age menfolk back to Ukraine for military service. But these rumblings always seem to quietly vanish…..hmmmm

Posted by: Exile | Sep 16 2024 18:25 utc | 165

The attempted assassination of Trump is only one of the first of such incidents. (The motives for the assassination attempt against the Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico are still unknown.)
Many such incidents, predominantly in Europe, are likely to follow.
Posted by b on September 16, 2024 at 9:53 UTC | Permalink
It sounds like Kamala Harris just had a close call/S.
https://babylonbee.com/news/kamala-safe-and-in-stable-condition-after-attempted-interview

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 16 2024 18:30 utc | 166

C’mon folks. Ryan Rush has a 40 year 50 page rap sheet. The Tooth Fairy always appears to make the charges go away. That is his career, that is what he does. Stirs up shit and leaves someone else holding the bag. Can you say ‘provocateur’? Sure, I knew you could.
He looks like an actor. He is most assuredly landed gentry, possibly an aristocrat. This is his hobby. He may have fathered a dozen children, he is gay. Likely Jewish. If you have ever been around fringe politics you have known him or his exact clone. He has previously appeared in Occupy!, January 6, Antifa. Give his agent a call, your production needs him.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2024 18:35 utc | 167

Milites or anybody with serious military knowledge can do a much better job at seeing possibilities, …
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 17:13 utc | 129
Kremenchug is a railhead for the line to Odessa. Kirovohrad Oblast, across the river, is pretty flat. Not a helluvalot between there and Transnistria but space. But I could easily be a dope on this

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 18:38 utc | 168

Methinks the Kursk Klown show hit its sell-by date around September 1. Everything from there is just rotting meat and waiting for the maggots to hatch.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 16 2024 18:15 utc | 160
Maybe not, well maybe kursk proper but not that front.
From what was posted above and what we see below ( https://tass.com/politics/1843791 ) I would say:
1. Currently AFU is barely holding a 12 km radius from the R200 sudzha entry point.
2. Some residuals up to 15 km radius under attack
3. I’d expect Sudzha to be under direct attack still this week
4. I don’t expect RF to stop at the border, an extra 10/20kms minimum
“MOSCOW, September 16. /TASS/. The Russian armed forces have liberated the settlements of Uspenovka and Borki in the Kursk Region, the Defense Ministry reported.
“The battlegroup North continued its offensive and liberated the settlements of Uspenovka and Borki. In addition, Russian servicemen defeated the Ukrainian 22nd, 41st and 115th mechanized, 17th tank, 82nd airborne assault brigades, the 1st National Guard brigade, as well as the 112th and 129th territorial defense brigades near Lyubimovka, Novoivanovka, Daryino, Nikolo-Daryino, Tolstoy Lug, Plekhovo and Pokrovsky,” the statement said.
Reconnaissance and search operations in the forest areas continue in order to identify and destroy enemy sabotage groups trying to penetrate deep into Russian territory. The Russian Defense Ministry said that the operation to destroy the Ukrainian formations is continuing.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 18:46 utc | 169

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 18:01 utc | 150
You sound more confused than aggravated. But glad my post triggered a response. A few more posts and you should be able to begin to fashion an argument of some sort.

Posted by: Vragtes | Sep 16 2024 18:51 utc | 170

100.
It reads like the roster of the German proxy forces in June 1941: Goes to show the real enemy according to western Europe has always been Russia not any particular ideology that governed Russia.

Posted by: Cavery | Sep 16 2024 18:58 utc | 171

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Posted by: Wella | Sep 16 2024 19:03 utc | 172

Borzzikman always has unique info and perspective, even if it’s made up it’s good stuff. If he/they did make this up, I hope the RuMoD tunes in cause it’s brilliant:

Russian Nuclear Submarines Have Surrounded the UK and Are Waiting For The Order To ATTACK

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 19:10 utc | 173

karlof1 | Sep 16 2024 16:12 utc | 98–Cont’d
I’ve finished my article built around Lavrov’s presser, “Lavrov: “rules-based order” “Totalitarian””, that also covers other aspects brought forth in the presser.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2024 19:11 utc | 174

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 16 2024 11:02 utc | 7
That’s a bit strong even for you. I do however love reading your posts. You have a wicked understated sense of humour. I really should have made the effort to travel to Norwich to meet The Craig Murray fan club, when he was English – (born and Bread in Norfolk) English Mum and Scottish Dad
I really like Craig Murray, though so far as I know, I have never met him.
I have no idea what you look like, but you do write well.
I currently have a house full of Grandkids and trying to escape the noise, I am watching Boomers with my headphones on
Funniest thing I have seen since Caroline Aherne – She was only 52
Try Boomers on Netflix – that is set in Norfolk _ Thurne Mouth, absolutely nothing to do with Scotland, and filmed in Herne Bay in Kent.
Little point in getting worried about who tf is going to kill us all.
I personally couldn’t give a sh1t, except my Grand Daughter nearly 2 seems the happiest person, with her two older brothers, I have met since I was 3

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 16 2024 19:11 utc | 175

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 16 2024 18:35 utc | 166
You make too fine a distinction, admirable stranger, if Nazi rune links with giant tracking cookie don’t register what will? At this point it’s Blimp Radio.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 16 2024 19:17 utc | 176

Islam is something that is not indigenous to Britain. Nor is the great influx of muslims in recent decades.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 13:36 utc | 31
Nor is Christianity, for that matter. And as for the great influx of Brits into America or Austrailia, well…
We are where we are in history. As a non-christian Brit, I have no problem about Islam or muslims, nor I think do most of us – we just get along.

Posted by: Red Star | Sep 16 2024 19:19 utc | 177

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 19:10 utc | 172
##########
It’s not made up. He always has sources. It’s whether you think his sourcing is credible or not.
I think generally it is. I haven’t noticed many (any?) situations where Borzzikman has said something and the opposite has come to light.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 19:20 utc | 178

Meanwhile the first assassination attempt still awaits a proper investigation.
I’m becoming increasingly confident that it was not just deliberate negligence of the security forces (LIHOP), but an organized plot including a second shooter (MIHOP). This event was recorded by hundreds of cameras and has left myriads of potential traces.

Posted by: mk | Sep 16 2024 19:22 utc | 179

terrorists smoke too much weed it seems – they totally forgot their main enemy.
showing up when its convenient for the last empire ^^
and re blowback:
us/uk tried to make east germany another neonazi pool after reunition – it failed where i live.
who is a tourist – and who is just a refugee? – local derp-nazis were confused.
some uk double agent was co-founder of a nazi party here.
now we have a somewhat nazi-party (MSM says so) getting stronger and stronger.
our rulers do not want THOSE nazis… it is like a telenovela.

Posted by: Hodes | Sep 16 2024 19:26 utc | 180

@ vrag 169
No, it is because as a communist, your version of history is reductive to the extreme. All history is a struggle where world communism will emerge victorious from the contradictions of fascism.
You are incapable of ascending to the plane of philosophy where we can say without hesitation that we generally know not what comes next vis a vis multi-polarity.
Communism failed, but so did chauvinistic nationalism. The task now is to position ourselves where we are genuinely open and waiting for an answer as to what next. See Heidegger’s interview with Der Spiegel, “Only a God can save us.”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 19:26 utc | 181

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 19:10 utc | 172
Interesting. Will an example be made out of Great Britain when Nato launches Storm Shadow missiles from Poland?
Most likely the threshold has dropped after all the braindead statements from British politicians and journalists.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 19:36 utc | 182

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 19:26 utc | 180
Best post I have read today-thank you.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 16 2024 19:42 utc | 183

Once all this ends Russia will have same relationship with Ukraine like with Chechens today. After Ukrainians realise they were played by the west their fury deadly
Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 14:26 utc | 48
I think you will be proven right!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 16 2024 19:45 utc | 184

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 19:10 utc | 172
Interesting. Will an example be made out of Great Britain when Nato launches Storm Shadow missiles from Poland?
Most likely the threshold has dropped after all the braindead statements from British politicians and journalists.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 19:36 utc | 181
Falsane comes to mind, but RF should know where each of the 4 vanguards are… No tridents no independent deterrent.
“IN THE final days of August one of Britain’s four nuclear-armed Vanguard-class submarines—the government will not say which—limped back into the Scottish port of Faslane. Weary submariners, deprived of sunlight and fresh air for nearly six months, lay slumped against the conning tower. The hull was encrusted with marine growth.”

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 16 2024 19:46 utc | 185

@ Posted by: alek_a | Sep 16 2024 18:11 utc | 155
I don’t have every day to post. Some topics don’t provoke me so much. But I do like to chime in here and there when and where I notice the bar flies are drunk off fermented Russian horseshit (and just because the Russian state is the lesser evil compared to the US and NATO imperialism doesn’t mean we anti-imperialists should let them off the hook). The Russian government has played a major role in recent years amplifying white nationalist and other race-based fascist movements (including a handful of Black organizations) in order to sow discord and racial enmity in the US. They’ve backed the presidential candidate who stands to lessen federal power the most (something I’ve privately told comrades might be a good thing for socialists politically, but only in the long-term). These are not secrets, nor does Russia treat them as such. They’re very amused at the scrambling and paranoia they’ve caused.

You have had 4 years people, total narrative control, total lawfare and what have you got to show for it?

Again, not a Democrat, so not sure what this is supposed to mean. I had some say in what MSNBC runs? Huh? News to me. Guess I haven’t been exercising my voting rights on whatever topic Rachel Maddow or whoever is going to talk about tonight. I get my news from, besides this blog, People’s World, some state-based magazines, Monthly Review, and a handful of reactionaries who are funny enough to keep me reading them.
This is not 1941, or 1968, or 1989, it’s 2024, and the Russian government today more than deserves to be overthrown. Russia today is an imperialist power, or at least aspires to be one, and the facts of the conflict in Ukraine can only be understood through an anti-imperialist lens which sees Russia using the means at its disposal (its military might) to conquer foreign markets and subjugate other nations to the benefit of its domestic capitalists, and doubly so for the United States, whose ruling class is more or less united in pursuing the war no matter the cost to Ukraine (Trump, who is ruling class, has always been a “black sheep” in that crowd, never having been on the Social Register despite his billions and his command over the labor of others). Ultimately I don’t believe that Trump will press for peace, because once his CIA handlers stress the importance of bleeding the Russians dry, and make clear the consequences of disobedience, he will forget whatever vague promise he made on the campaign trail.

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 19:47 utc | 186

I would also like to point out, that it was not me, who took the P1ss out of Our Great Leader – Bomb Bomb Bomb Moscow Sir Keir Starmer – even worse than Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (I didn’t think it possible) – even he thinks he is totally mad.
It was the Pentagon – who more or less said at the meeting in the USA last week…
Where the hell, did you British Get him From?
Us Americans didn’t really care that much about Julian Assange – if we wanted to kill him, we would have done..We would just have let him go…
It was YOU Sir Keir Starmer, who insisted on keeping Julian Assange in Jail for Years – Seriously Embarrassing Us Americans
All he did was tell the truth. No one would have noticed – except you.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 16 2024 19:47 utc | 187

As I understand it, the sLimeys have a single Trident sub on patrol. If the Russians know where it is (and they have friends with fancy new quantum entanglement LiDAR satellites that can see through the sea), then sinking it is easily done and leaves the Brits with no nuclear deterrent.
Britain would be the ideal target for an example of the consequences of being insufferable assholes.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 16 2024 19:50 utc | 188

Let me add as an addendum to my last post, just so we’re not uncertain, that when I say Putin and United Russia deserve to be overthrown, I do not mean in some CIA-linked mass protest, or CIA-armed guerrilla insurgency, but by the working class of Russia expropriating the forces of production and instituting their own state, which could inspire similar revolts and uprisings throughout Europe if it acted independently and muscularly against the Russian ruling class. This would, in my mind, be the best possible outcome of the war, and it would teach US workers, too, a valuable lesson.

Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 19:52 utc | 189

Why would the second assassin need an insider agent to relay information to the shooter that Trumps playing golf at his own resort? Just pay a busboy or a pregnant waitress to give him a call when Trumps playing golf for around $5k. It could be an inside job, but stronger evidence is needed. There is plenty of evidence of an inside job on the first attempt,

Posted by: Turk 152 | Sep 16 2024 19:54 utc | 190

guy used as a tool – to make ukraine look bad – for the US voters?

Posted by: Hodes | Sep 16 2024 20:01 utc | 191

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 16 2024 19:50 utc | 187
“As I understand it, the sLimeys have a single Trident sub on patrol.”
The chance of a missile from a UK sub, actually taking off, and ending up anywhere, except from it came is not particularly good…
However apparently “Life in the Navy” even underwater has improved somewhat…They allows Girls in Now (if they can convince the Recruitment Officer, they are Gay) Amazingly enough some are.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Sep 16 2024 20:01 utc | 192

If the Russians are provoked to attack a NATO nation, they will target military or military-industrial sites.
Putin has no interest in punishing civilians for the psychopathy of their “leaders”.
There is a location in the UK where the Storm Shadows are manufactured.
I heard someone, perhaps Ritter this morning, that the Russians if pushed to that, may then detonate a nuke over the ocean to show everyone that they are willing to fire those weapons, which should generate sufficient domestic turmoil that will push back on the BOJOs and Blinkens of the West.
Remember, Russia is using time as a weapon. Ukraine, Israel, and NATO are on the clock. Every moment of delay is poison for them.
With the meeting in Kazan coming up in a few weeks, the entire paradigm may be due for a (potentially) huge change.
A petty part of me wants Trump to win the election, and then try to to sanction the Axis, which has been preparing for it for a couple of years, with Iran, Russia, and the DPRK already well-adjusted to the effects of that (increasingly impotent) approach.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 20:02 utc | 193

USA killed ‘enemy’ generals or other VIP targets – no nuke needed- just fast stuff

Posted by: Hodes | Sep 16 2024 20:05 utc | 194

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 16 2024 19:10 utc | 172
Certainly MBDA UK would make a credible target: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA_UK though technically the Bristol site is in Filton, South Gloucestershire.
I’m about 20km south-east, so I’ll try and capture some video of overflying Zircons (won’t be any Ukrainian swear-words audible), no promises mind you…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 16 2024 20:05 utc | 195

“Oswald vibes” is ridiculous. Snowden is, of course, under the influence of Russian intelligence, and at this point you’d have to be willingly ignorant not to recognize Trump as Moscow’s favored candidate, and not just because he’s some “peacenik” (only on this one issue, actually – remember he put Deep State, CIA Man, Mike Pompeo as his Secretary of State).
@ Posted by: kupkee | Sep 16 2024 17:46 utc | 145
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Trump and co. have been promoting violent rhetoric since 2015 – calling for mass deportations, denaturalization of citizens, spreading blood libel about immigrants, provoking pogroms, and are reaping what they sow. The US far-right are freaking out because they realized they’re not the only ones who are armed. Good. Let them freak, let them cry. My one qualm is that Trump should be taken alive to stand trial in Tehran for the murder of Soleimani. No presidential immunity (seriously, can you believe there are people who think this guy ain’t one of the elites?) for him there.
Posted by: fnord | Sep 16 2024 17:55 utc | 147
fnord, I think you got things mixed up at kupkee @ #145 [this was not a part of kupkee’s post at 145]. This is the kind of stuff that gets me into trouble.
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Anyway, Kupkee or fnord, don’t blame Moscow or President Putin because the US voters, and the American electoral system, can’t produce a decent leader. We get the politicians we deserve, and unfortunately, the rest of the world gets them too.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 16 2024 20:06 utc | 196

canuck | Sep 16 2024 19:42 utc | 182

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 16 2024 19:26 utc | 180
Best post I have read today-thank you.

You obviously don’t read much do you ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 16 2024 20:15 utc | 197

I predict that Trump won’t win the race to the Whitehouse -and my simple answer to that is, that – the US needs the war against the RF – and Harris is 100% behind it.
You see American hegemony and the dollars dominance is on the wane – add in that – European politics is becoming unpredictable with the ascendancy of the far-right in Germany, the crisis of leadership in French politics – the relative decline of EU’s economy vis-a-vis global rivals due to limited innovation, high energy prices and skills gaps – etc. and, of course, the overarching economic crisis in Europe with no end in sight.
For me in the eyes of Starmer and Biden/Harris – and those that back and fund them – there needs to be a war – and not just with the RF but with China as well which is on the rise.
British Storm-shadow missiles are already in Ukraine – and they will be used to test the strength of Putins threat to strike countries – that supply these long range weapons to Ukraine – to strike deep inside the RF.
The war with the RF and China is coming – once Nato is fully prepared – the alternative for them is unthinkable.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 20:19 utc | 198

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 16 2024 20:19 utc | 197
im on the same page here. but i also like to add that even if trump wins, there will be war.
trump already is on record saying that he will make countries “pay” that circumvent the dollar in international trade.
he personally is probablly thinking in terms of tariffs or something, but the people behind him are the same hawkish nationalists like the ones behind biden/harris. and for them its war.
the americans are highly likely working on getting russian media/journalists worldwide censored in one way or another, and if/once they manage to get their desired outcome in terms of narrative management, they will start something unthinkable.
at this point i am almost in favour of russia shooting first to be honest.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 16 2024 20:27 utc | 199

I had read about a week ago that China was restricting the export of various drone components and drones. I expected that to hit the failing Ukronazi proxies at some point and now it seems they are saying it too. Even without the China expert restrictions RF had caught up ande I think overtaken the nato proxies in the drone wars. And lacking in other weapons, drones had become the nato staple in Ukraine.

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🇨🇳🇺🇦🚨‼️ CHINA SANCTIONS UKRAINE!
Zelensky officially confirmed that China has imposed restrictions on the supply of drones to Ukraine.
“Some of the largest countries exporting components for drones are introducing export restrictions.
We know how to ensure that these restrictions do not become critical for us,” the president said on his Telegram channel.
Earlier, the commander of the tactical aerial reconnaissance group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Robert Brovdi (Madyar), stated that after September 1, drones will start to become more expensive and there will be fewer and fewer of them due to new export restrictions from China.
Information Resistance expert Alexander Kovalenko also reported on restrictions from China.
Also they stated that the Russians were acquiring more drones.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 20:28 utc | 200